The Pentagram, singing woods and an eye orgasm...

[ashra]

Here my two experiences with the pentagram I would like to share. Please tell me what you think about all that.

About two month ago I lived voluntarily on the streets for one week. On the second night I decided to sleep at an energetically high charged place in the forest that a friend of me found there. It is lies between a circle of trees and the first time I came there my body began to shake after a few minutes sitting on the earth.
I woke up and heard a very loud didgeridoo like sound. But it certainly was no didgeridoo player there in the middle of the night and the sound was way too intense. It felt like the trees or the whole forest was speaking to me. I felt the strong presence of someone beeing with me there. After about what felt like one minute I became so scared that I wanted it to stop. And it did.
Now I closed my eyes and saw a very clear and white shining pentagram. It was still there when I opened them. This image was there the whole next day and I felt strong pressure on my heart chakra all the time. On the next day the pentagram was still there but it began to take a 3dimensional shape and looked as if it was burning. I now could move it just by thought.
Along with this came the presence of an female entity being with me. I could see her in my mind and she told me what to do and where to go. I had no own
thoughts for a couple of hours. I was still living outside and walking through the city. When I went to sleep that night the pentagram kind of exploded and I flew through a universe of shapes and colours I only knew from trips on Ska Maria Pastora (the Mazateks obvioulsy knew why they gave that plant such a name).
The next day the pentagram and the pressure on my heart chakra were gone.
Sometime later I met the friend who had shown me that place in the forest. He told me that a few days before I had slept there he had been there with a group of people performing an earth magic ritual and that they had drawn a huge pentagram on the ground.
That was my first encounter with the pentagram.

A few days ago I ate magic mushrooms with a girl I seem to share a very intense spiritual connection with. We were tripping in a forest close to my home. Sitting infront of her I looked
into her eyes. It was already quite dark so I could not see her eyes anymore but I could see the energy flowing through her and was able to feel if she was looking into my eyes or not. We had eye contact for about what felt like a minute to me. Suddenly I felt such an enormous energetic rush flowing through my chakra system that was stronger than any orgasm I ever had. I was unable to communicate to her what I had just felt. And now, what was there again? Of course, the pentagram, now being multicoloured. It stayed with me just till I asked her if it was ok for her if I kissed her. She said 'no'. I accepted that without being disappointed but now the pentagram was gone.
I could not get her on the phone to ask about her health. I really feel concerned because since that 'eye orgasm' I feel strangely completed. As if I took something out of her. I am worrying beacause after our trip she looked so tired out like I never saw her before - we have spent a lot of time together since february - and I was pure energy. But maybe I am just overreacting.

Does someone have any ideas what that pentagram could stand for or does someone share a similar experience?

[serpentoffire]

The pentagram is a sign of occultism used for rituals to recall fallen angel (demons) in front of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXiDQHve4ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Ld9SsPcgg

Secret Fire: The Relationship Between Kundalini, Kabbalah, and Alchemy
http://www.hermetic.com/stavish/essays/secret-fire.html

Recall demons implies a demonic possession. Please check this thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13184

[ashra]

thank you for the info. The Secret Fire article seems to be very informative. I will read it tonight when I have more time.

I did not make clear earlier that the pentagram/pentacle stood upright. But what
now struck me was what you posted about demons. It reminded me of that 'dream' I had a few weeks ago. I think I already wrote about it in the Astral Projection thread. In that dream I was somewhere outside with that girl I ate the shrooms with. She told me that she had to show me something. I lay down on the ground and she put her hands on my heart. Suddenly there was a very bright light and I 'woke up' in my actually totally dark room that was now filled with blue light so that I was able to see. I heard ugly screams that scared me to death and then I woke up.
I believe that there are entities surrounding us but I still wonder what that state was about or was trying to show me. And why did this girl had to put her hands on my heart for that. Quite gruesome to believe that this is/was inside of me. Are there demonic entities sticking on my energetic body? After what I experienced I have some reason to believe that.

[serpentoffire]

If you have kundalini raised and all chakras opened you have a door opened to access supernatural world. You start to have visions and to interact with alien entities. These entities can be benevolent, like guardian angels, or in searching of your energy like spirits, or trying to eat your soul like demons.

You don't have to negate your supernatural abilities (like some religions suggest you) but instead to be prepared to be assaulted by evil entities. Prayer are good tools. Spirits are able to work in disguise taking faces, shapes and voices of your deaths or someone you knew to deceive you. You are only a battery for them.


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Your gifts have to be used instead to gain contact with God and his angels. When you will be ready you'll feel your guardian angel like me.
Good luck dear friend (and be far from Satan)

[cruise4]

You say entities... but this implies 'other' than your own conciousness. Why can't 'entities' just be an interpretation of a self inflicted conciousness change, evil being probably undesirable, good being beneficial or at least passive.

"Traditional models of angels, spirits, gods and goddesses, ancestral spirits and so on are useful up to a point, but these are not the end of the story, and in penetrating beyond these "intermediaries" the magician is forced to confront the nature of consciousness itself and become something of a mystic.

The idea that the physical universe is the end product of a "process of consciousness" is virtually a first principle of Eastern esoteric philosophy, it is at the root of the Kabbalistic doctrine of emanation and the sephiroth, and it has been adopted by many twentieth century magicians as a useful complement to whatever traditional model of magic they were weaned on. Once one has accepted that it is possible to create "thought-forms" and "artificial elementals" and "telesmic images", it is a small step to admit that the gods, goddesses, angels, and spirits of traditional magic may have no reality outside of the consciousness which creates and sustains them."

"The principle function of magical ritual is to cause well-defined changes in consciousness. There are other (non-magical) kinds of ritual and ceremony - social, superstitious, celebratory, religious - carried out for a variety of reasons, but magical ritual can be distinguished by its emphasis on causing shifts in consciousness to states not normally attainable, with a consequence of causing effects which would be considered impossible or improbable by most people in this day and age.

The realisation that the content of magical ritual is a means to an end, the end being the deliberate manipulation of consciousness, is an watershed in magical technique."

This suggests the only 'magical' thing going on is the word itself. This is all really about states of conciousness... and mis-direction is everywhere.

From the very very brief look at Alchemy I've had I have got the impression this is about 'mixing' elements of conciousness. If you are messing about with actual energies that make us what we are... is it a stretch to think incorrectly messing about produces 'mutational' results?

Is all this symbology, numerology and rituels just props for the 'not very good' at it?

[serpentoffire]

You say entities... but this implies 'other' than your own conciousness. Why can't 'entities' just be an interpretation of a self inflicted conciousness change, evil being probably undesirable, good being beneficial or at least passive....

Why, when I talk about spirits, does somebody think to mental illnesses or other self induced practices?

I talk about phisical entities that are able to touch you, move objects, interact with our technologies, talk with telepathy and with YES/NO statements bumping physically your table, appear like white fog or dark shadows, fly in your room like an ORB or a winged snake.

Welcome to the real world.

[cruise4]

"Why, when I talk about spirits, does somebody think to mental illnesses or other self induced practices?"

I didn't and the question still stands.

You are saying these entities are 'other' to you. Are you saying they are independant of 'your' conciousness and if so... how do you know?

[serpentoffire]

"Why, when I talk about spirits, does somebody think to mental illnesses or other self induced practices?"

I didn't and the question still stands.

You are saying these entities are 'other' to you. Are you saying they are independant of 'your' conciousness and if so... how do you know?

Let me explain you.

Each morning my guardian bumps something in my bedroom to say me "Hello, good morning". In the evening the same to say me "Good night". Sometime when I write on this forum he bumps my table to say "Yes, it's so" or "Stop".

He send me telepathically traces to follow like a name, a concept as if he says: "Now search for this one".

Sometime he disappear and when returns he manifest himself noisily to say "Hi, I'm here".

I had also evil entities like poltergeists and demons and they are less friendly. Spirits try to get our energy implanting false images in our dreams to stimulate our fear during the deep sleeping. I had a poltergeist that opened the water in bathroom or switch on the light in kitchen. Once I felt the presence of a demon and the day after a person living two floors up tried to suicide.

Angels, spirits and demons are real and physical entities.

[paganus]

the pentagram is the symbol of my religion(wicca) and nothing to be afraid of,i assure you!