Deprogramming Central:Pop inside

[harpalchemist]

Welcome everyone to dc,a new place where deprogramming is the latest trend.I am harpalchemist and i bring the truth to the sheople that need it,although whether you use the information is entirely your choice.Now,the one thing that is harder than waking people up,wait for it,.....is waking up those that have woken up.Understand?For some reason,and I have noticed it for years,even driving my relationships apart,is that when people think they have woken up to a reality in this 3d world,ie:secret government/2012/crop circles/Channeling etc,then they become even more dogmatic in their beliefs.You know who I am talking about people.YOU!Now,the reason for this is they have gone through some alchemical reaction to discard decades of programming from our captors,only to presume that there is no other level of control.WHOAA! How wrong you are.!!! It is a minefield out there,and 99% of it is disinformation.Including Atlantis's benevolence/Power of intention/Power of now etc etc,but I won't list more as its your choice.AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT.You see,if you go along,no holds barred,believing something to be right but with an open mind,thats one thing as you can change your opinion based on new material,which is up to you to discover.However,IF YOU THINK YOU NOW HAVE THE TRUTH,AND THATS IT,truth is:YOU ARE IN ANOTHER TRAP.I know of noone,including David Icke/Laura Knight Jadzcyk/Val Valerian et al,who think they have the answers.No,THEY HAVE THE QUESTIONS!!!!!That is the point.The forces working against us have layers and layers of disinformation,and they go about it like this.A little bit of truth,wrapped in a tissue of lies,is the way they get us hooked.When we see through the lie,the next one has another bit of truth in.BUT,THE PUZZLE CANNOT BE ASSEMBLED UNTIL YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF PIECES.What,you thought that 911 or 2012 is it,and once you know that you are done.Uhuh.Next level,next jigsaw piece.The most toxic of these disinformation strategies is the love and light brigade.IT DOESN'T APPLY HERE,YET.Keeping positive and focusing only on what you want is a lie.There is an enemy you need to learn about so you decide how to act.sticking your head in the sand is spiritual suicide.DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE THAT MAKE IT SOUND ALRIGHT.THAT WE'LL ALL BE FINE IF WE JUST BECOME LOVE AND CHANT AUM AND YOGA EVERYDAY.CRAP.Without the knowledge of who you are up against,and learning the lessons of discernment along the way,you are truly screwed.Do you want to go through the ascent of man AGAIN!!Didn't think so.So,basically,if someone or a piece of info is informing you that all is ok with the world,they are bloody liars.Do you think our captors would risk having you wake up and spoil it all that easily.Think about it.Thousands of years they have been in control.Our saviours and heroes have died for speaking out.AND JUST MEDITATING AND BEING IN ON THE FLUFFY BUNNY CULT is an insult to all of our intelligence.Wishful thinking CLOUDS your mind.Be alert,be aware of that fact.I would like it if atlantis was our pinnacle,if angels worked for our benefit,all guides/channels/reiki masters were "good".But that aint the way it is.I hope you get this.IF YOU HAVE WOKEN UP FROM EVERYDAY REALITY........YOU HAVE AN EVEN GREATER TASK OF WAKING UP FROM THE NEXT..AND SO ON,THATS THE REAL CHALLENGE..Now i know what jimi hendrix meant when he said "If i dont see you anymore in this world i'll meet you in the next one,don't be late."SO lets drop all this phoney love and light jargon,and get down to some real brainstorming with each other.First question:WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GEOMETRY AND LIGHT REGARDING MATTER?

[megatron]

man you should break your text up a bit.

[jologriffiths]

The real challenge we have is training ourselves to be mentally strong, The dark players are bound to their downward spiral and are tortured souls who are chasing their tails, they are relying on you to feel anger and hate, if you are filled with dare I say LOVE, and have the strength and courage to send LOVE to them you are working from a higher psychic level.
They operate in the psychic domain, we have to be aware of their will to destroy us but giving them power by being afraid and dwelling on their wickedness does not help us to get rid of them.
Do not wish... KNOW that we are powerful and will NOT tolerate this spread of darkness.
Everyone is evolving at a different pace, to criticise is easy, everyone has something to offer and if it works for them... don't get angry with those who are trying to visualise harmony, YOUR perception is key, if you foresee a bloody battle then that is what you will get.

[anoninnyc]

First question:WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GEOMETRY AND LIGHT REGARDING MATTER?

http://physics.tamuk.edu/~suson/html/4323/geometry.html

http://www.spiraloflight.com/ls_sacred.html


what does this mean? i know that sacred geometry is important to the illuminati. look at the pentagon. but why and how can we use this to our benefit?

[quelyn]

Welcome everyone to dc,a new place where deprogramming is the latest trend.I am harpalchemist and i bring the truth to the sheople that need it,although whether you use the information is entirely your choice.Now,the one thing that is harder than waking people up,wait for it,.....is waking up those that have woken up.Understand?For some reason,and I have noticed it for years,even driving my relationships apart,is that when people think they have woken up to a reality in this 3d world,ie:secret government/2012/crop circles/Channeling etc,then they become even more dogmatic in their beliefs.You know who I am talking about people.YOU!Now,the reason for this is they have gone through some alchemical reaction to discard decades of programming from our captors,only to presume that there is no other level of control.WHOAA! How wrong you are.!!! It is a minefield out there,and 99% of it is disinformation.Including Atlantis's benevolence/Power of intention/Power of now etc etc,but I won't list more as its your choice.AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT.You see,if you go along,no holds barred,believing something to be right but with an open mind,thats one thing as you can change your opinion based on new material,which is up to you to discover.However,IF YOU THINK YOU NOW HAVE THE TRUTH,AND THATS IT,truth is:YOU ARE IN ANOTHER TRAP.I know of noone,including David Icke/Laura Knight Jadzcyk/Val Valerian et al,who think they have the answers.No,THEY HAVE THE QUESTIONS!!!!!That is the point.The forces working against us have layers and layers of disinformation,and they go about it like this.A little bit of truth,wrapped in a tissue of lies,is the way they get us hooked.When we see through the lie,the next one has another bit of truth in.BUT,THE PUZZLE CANNOT BE ASSEMBLED UNTIL YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF PIECES.What,you thought that 911 or 2012 is it,and once you know that you are done.Uhuh.Next level,next jigsaw piece.The most toxic of these disinformation strategies is the love and light brigade.IT DOESN'T APPLY HERE,YET.Keeping positive and focusing only on what you want is a lie.There is an enemy you need to learn about so you decide how to act.sticking your head in the sand is spiritual suicide.DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE THAT MAKE IT SOUND ALRIGHT.THAT WE'LL ALL BE FINE IF WE JUST BECOME LOVE AND CHANT AUM AND YOGA EVERYDAY.CRAP.Without the knowledge of who you are up against,and learning the lessons of discernment along the way,you are truly screwed.Do you want to go through the ascent of man AGAIN!!Didn't think so.So,basically,if someone or a piece of info is informing you that all is ok with the world,they are bloody liars.Do you think our captors would risk having you wake up and spoil it all that easily.Think about it.Thousands of years they have been in control.Our saviours and heroes have died for speaking out.AND JUST MEDITATING AND BEING IN ON THE FLUFFY BUNNY CULT is an insult to all of our intelligence.Wishful thinking CLOUDS your mind.Be alert,be aware of that fact.I would like it if atlantis was our pinnacle,if angels worked for our benefit,all guides/channels/reiki masters were "good".But that aint the way it is.I hope you get this.IF YOU HAVE WOKEN UP FROM EVERYDAY REALITY........YOU HAVE AN EVEN GREATER TASK OF WAKING UP FROM THE NEXT..AND SO ON,THATS THE REAL CHALLENGE..Now i know what jimi hendrix meant when he said "If i dont see you anymore in this world i'll meet you in the next one,don't be late."SO lets drop all this phoney love and light jargon,and get down to some real brainstorming with each other.First question:WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GEOMETRY AND LIGHT REGARDING MATTER?
Yes, okay, visited both the love & light and conspiracy & darkness! Aren't these the opposites???????? Being stuck in one polarity over the other doesn't necessarily guide us to the ultimate truth. I don't know THE TRUTH but prefer to educate myself all around-all topics! Feeding the positive..... to me meaning LOVE seems like the better basket to store my eggs. Explain to me how this is so wrong?

"Do small things with great love". Mother Theresa
War was never won by waging more war. something close....don't know who said that.

[anoninnyc]

said something like what is done out of love always occurs beyond good and evil.

[janeway]

WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GEOMETRY AND LIGHT REGARDING MATTER?

This has given me some sleepless nights.

Everything is geometry.
Not everything is light. Light is geometry.
Not everything is matter. Matter is geometry.

When you shine your light on something it materialises.
Light is also consciousness; so when you are conscious about something it materialises.

:confused:

Reality is the playground of our dreams...

What is your answer to your question Harpalchemist?

[harpalchemist]

Well Janeway,looks like your onto something.Listen,this is probably the most important question in understanding our "reality".Is anyone out there really doing their homework?I will give you a clue,but not the answer,yet,as you really will benefit from contemplating this.I first understood this fundamental relationship a few years ago and now my learning has accelerated beyond anything i thought was possible,no joking. Ok -here is the clue.With the question in mind -"what is the relationship between geometry and light?" ,watch the matrix again.See you soon,and enjoy that feeling of gnosis.

[janeway]

Harpalchemist: Ok -here is the clue.With the question in mind -"what is the relationship between geometry and light?" ,watch the matrix again.

Janeway: O.k. my contemplation so far:

First Light: I think Light is overrated as is matter.
Matter is 0,0000000000001% of the reality we think we perceive.
That is: the earth, everything on, in and above the earth, our lives, people, places, times, things and events.
Light is a conductor to that. Light illuminates that 0,000000000001%.
Geometry is the plan/map on which it enfolds.
There must be a momentum of multifold realities which are equally true and alive in synchronisity with eachother.
As is past, present and future in the same momentum.

The matrix: illumination can be blinding. The illuminati are called that way; they illuminate the matrix in such a way that we are blinded; they than set the course plan/map in geometry that leads us in a certain way.

uuhhmmm....

[seamus]

said something like what is done out of love always occurs beyond good and evil.
are you sure it wasn't "right and wrong"?

s

[john white]

Geometry is simpy form, which is vibration: all is energy ("light" as we understand it being an illusion of perception)

[seamus]

here is a GREAT ilustration of that. and fun to watch too!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3938279897122159352&q=salt+vibration

salt on a sonic transducer setting up in various standing-wave patterns.

trippy!

s

[davidbarstis]

I'm not quite sure why everyone likes to make things complicated. Waking up from this illusion means forgeting the things that woke you up and the things that made you sleep. I'm not too keen on long winded people in this forum. Most of the time it's someone who likes to hear themselves talk and really offers useless information. Love to all

[roxanna]

I have to agree with you on this bartis. Alot of long winded stuff. Oh well. Cheers

[eternal_spirit]

erm:confused: It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness Buddhist quote.

[ho1ogram]

I see harpalchemist's point. Buddha, Nietzche and Mother Teresa's sayings apply to behaviour in this realm of perception. Be positive and loving because it help's you in your everyday life and will make for a better world. But love may not be an end in itself because we don't really know what infinite love is. I don't recall having experienced it. I believe in it but I am becoming more aware of the layers of darkness and lies especially after exploring the themes in the "Predator of Man' thread.

Infinite love to us on this plane, could very well be another layer of the illusion. I personaly feel 2012 is a big part of the deception, either by design or just as a distraction that we have focused on in our hope for an escape from our current situation. The earth may be going through a cleansing (or maybe not) and I am connected to all, but my true essence is not the earth.

I think awareness is very important. Being aware of the dark and the light but not necassarily believing in either.

I only discovered this thread today so I haven't contemplated the question: what is the connection between light and geometry regarding matter? But I will (I may even watch the matrix again, haven't watched a vid for awhile). I really like Janeway's responses. There is a lot here to explore.

[kha zarr]

Im reminded of fractal geometry or the chinese concept of 'li' which is all about organic manifestations of geometry in nature. The book 'Li: Dynamic form in nature" by David Wade. Its on amazon, mostly pictures but very interesting.

geometry comes from consciousness that creates. What kind of consciousness creates? what kind of consciousness loves? one that is ordered. this order I believe comes from establishment of trust/rules, laws of nature that it conforms to because it wants the best possible outcome that it can create. Creation meaning, contributing to the geometric order of telepathic reality. The universe is filled with thought, geometry is its result. I think.

But creating another conscious entity is a whole other ballgame. God is a complicated subject that gives me a headache so I wont even try.

light and matter are contrasts required for geometry to have any effect. yin and yang need each other. That means the spirit world isnt entirely light, nor is the material world entirely dense matter.

Then theres time and gravity.

[rebel ins]

WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GEOMETRY AND LIGHT REGARDING MATTER?

illusions

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Where the darkness bends there is imaginary light.

[eternal_spirit]

Light shows us forms of geometry within matter, without light we wouldn't be able to see geometry or matter, just darkenss.

Here comes the contradiction.....Why is it if you sit in a dark room you can see geometrical patterrns and colours if there is no light:confused:

[truthseeker1980]

I had a strange experience when doing salvia last summer, which has really opened this question up for me and will probably keep me contemplating for years.

I was sitting in my garden with a a friend who also took some salvia, it was a hot a very hot sunny day, so we were sitting in the shade of the apple tree.

At first the outlines of everything went really 3D, like watching a film with 3D glasses on, then the light colours were laying at different depths to the dark colours. The shade from the leaves was obviously darker colours, with the sunlight patches moving and vibrating at a different speed and frequency. The light colours seemed to be rotating in an opposite direction to the dark colours and there were layers and layers of different shades of light and dark on top of each other, to the side of each other, in infinite possibilities like a when you face two mirrors together.

The light and dark colours or shades, were all rotating on cylindrical/spherical patterns but in opposite directions. After a while I visualised a chain of people arms linked at the elbows with their backs facing the outside or broder of the cylindrical rotating shade, there were many different levels to this and many different rotating shades, almost as if they were the people powering the shade and keeping it within my illusion.

In one of the light rotating shades which had the people walking around the border in a clockwise fashion, I saw 2-3 of the people walking around the circle see me and point at me, I also heard them say how can he see us, then they turned their heads back to facing the centre of the rotating shade and carried on.

At this point I tried to explain what i had just seen to my friend, but as you can see it is very difficult to put into words. It was like there were people working to keep up the fabric or matrix of our illusion a reality to us, but they knew it wasn't real. Very strange and opened up my eyes to a new way of thinking.