The Real Truth Movement

[cycles of time]

the real truth movement comes from how you treat those next to you.

when our current government is done,there will still be grivences with your neighbors,which will of course lead to problems,which will eventually lead to some sort of authority getting involved and social control and order.


i know some people directly involved with the truth movement/alex jones.
and they are manipulative,racist and honestly...ignorant humans. they think somehow they will be knighted as luminaries or something. but the truth is they are oppurtunists for attention and power.

our government is here because WE AS PEOPLE CANNOT GET ALONG.

someone or some group of people will always think they are superior to another person or group.native american vs european-american, catholics vs protestants. sunni vs shia. aztec vs mayan. tutsi vs hutus. white vs black. etcetc.

it will always be there. in fact the next leader after this is all said and done will be even more corrupt.


spread the "TRUTH" all you want. sure it is great in informing the public because they should know what's going on before its published in a textbook.

[Anders Lindman]

our government is here because WE AS PEOPLE CANNOT GET ALONG.


Very interesting point. I hadn't thought about it like that before. We are like children needing a big 'daddy' in the form of a government. And the horrible thing is that governments themselves are like children, starting wars with each other etc. :eek: Utter immaturity.

[truthseeker1980]

We as people cannot get along??

That's utter crap!!

When you were a young kid before you were brainwashed by your countries education system, you would/could get along with anyone, black/white, asian/indian. Of course you would still have a ruff and tumble with your friends whilst at playschool/kindergarten, but you were friends with them again within a few minutes.

It's once the education starts to work that we can't get along, i remember when i was about 7, i suddenly realised that my friend Rupesh was different to me, that he had brown skin. I'd obviously noticed this before but not until i was around the age of 6-7 did i start to notice that he was different. I think this was to do with the brain washing i was receiving at school as beforehand, race had never come into the equation and he was the same as me.

We dont need somone to take control, the combined awoken conciousness would be enough in my opinion, as long as all are on the same wavelength there shouldn't be problems.

[whitenight639]

most of us arn't anarchists and realize we need a government, but a government that represents the people not the corporations,

[cycles of time]

We as people cannot get along??

That's utter crap!!

When you were a young kid before you were brainwashed by your countries education system, you would/could get along with anyone, black/white, asian/indian. Of course you would still have a ruff and tumble with your friends whilst at playschool/kindergarten, but you were friends with them again within a few minutes.

It's once the education starts to work that we can't get along, i remember when i was about 7, i suddenly realised that my friend Rupesh was different to me, that he had brown skin. I'd obviously noticed this before but not until i was around the age of 6-7 did i start to notice that he was different. I think this was to do with the brain washing i was receiving at school as beforehand, race had never come into the equation and he was the same as me.

We dont need somone to take control, the combined awoken conciousness would be enough in my opinion, as long as all are on the same wavelength there shouldn't be problems.



materialism,natural social order, narcissm( attractiveness,weight,skin color),
paranoia,greed,murder,lust,jeolousy,envy...

WILL ALL STILL EXIST. it exists in the animal kingdom.and it exists in our kingdom.

i grew up around black people, both african-americans who most likely have a percentage of european mixed in,along with recent african immigrants straight from the congo.and they have inner beefs too,whether it be based on how dark ones skin is, to the shape of the nose and lips. no joke.

point being,its the human condition. some people try really hard to be at the top of the totem pole,or pyramid. some people hate the idea of being a serf,or a slave, or in the lower class. and in that struggle,people will get manipulated and mistreated. and then the whole vicious cycle continues.

personally i think alex jones, and some of his followers are frauds,racist,oppurtunists,and manipulators. thats just from personal experience.

and i have the right to say this on this group,since you guys already voice your disdain for other political leaders and what not.

removal of my posts highlight my point exactly about how things will never change,and only get worse,starting with the removal of our right to voice our disdain .

[cycles of time]

most of us arn't anarchists and realize we need a government, but a government that represents the people not the corporations,

united states of america is a coorporation! honestly,all it is ,is its operating board,its shareholders and large-scale security guards.and most of the shares of america have been owned by the same people,for centuries.and that will not change. because its the natural human condition to want security and constant food source and electricity and healthcare and comfortable living conditions and instant gratification and sanitation and most of all ENTERTAINMENT(sports,sex,drugs,movies,music,plasti c surgery)

united states of america is also an illegal occupation based on a massive genocide,probably the worst that has ever occured on this earth.

[lenejento]

the real truth movement comes from how you treat those next to you.

when our current government is done,there will still be grivences with your neighbors,which will of course lead to problems,which will eventually lead to some sort of authority getting involved and social control and order.


i know some people directly involved with the truth movement/alex jones.
and they are manipulative,racist and honestly...ignorant humans. they think somehow they will be knighted as luminaries or something. but the truth is they are oppurtunists for attention and power.

our government is here because WE AS PEOPLE CANNOT GET ALONG.

someone or some group of people will always think they are superior to another person or group.native american vs european-american, catholics vs protestants. sunni vs shia. aztec vs mayan. tutsi vs hutus. white vs black. etcetc.

it will always be there. in fact the next leader after this is all said and done will be even more corrupt.


spread the "TRUTH" all you want. sure it is great in informing the public because they should know what's going on before its published in a textbook.

Excellent post!!!
The Ultimate Truth, the spiritual Truth is the answer to this. Because, when we are oneness, why would we want to do any "harm", we would be so in love with ourselves, the world and other beings, we would be overflowing.

This actually happened to me yesterday and it made me think:

I was lying in my bed, being aware, I was feeling so much love, it was overwhelming, I though "I can't handle all this love", The ego can't handle this immense love of our true being, made me think that if it is actually so, that the collective mind is mirrored in the world, the elite will either have to go along with this new vibration and discover their true being, or they will have to leave, in one way or the other. Since I see the superego mirrored as the elite(superego is the one that always wins, if you got a war going on inside your head the superego will win, that is what defines the superego).

[cycles of time]

Excellent post!!!
The Ultimate Truth, the spiritual Truth is the answer to this. Because, when we are oneness, why would we want to do any "harm", we would be so in love with ourselves, the world and other beings, we would be overflowing.

This actually happened to me yesterday and it made me think:

I was lying in my bed, being aware, I was feeling so much love, it was overwhelming, I though "I can't handle all this love", The ego can't handle this immense love of our true being, made me think that if it is actually so, that the collective mind is mirrored in the world, the elite will either have to go along with this new vibration and discover their true being, or they will have to leave, in one way or the other. Since I see the superego mirrored as the elite.

large scale spirituality wont be happening anytime soon. people need to eat,sleep,sex,save,spend,suffer,and most of all... surrender to the god of convenience.

[lenejento]

large scale spirituality wont be happening anytime soon. people need to eat,sleep,sex,save,spend,suffer,and most of all... surrender to the god of convenience.

Maybe, maybe not :)
Just start with yourself

[cycles of time]

Maybe, maybe not :)
Just start with yourself


i am very spiritual,but most people where i live believe spirituality only really comes with one of the main organized religions,and of course see me as being godless and unspiritual.

that right there is just an example of arrogance,and that is another human trait which will never dissapear.

[adimon]

most of us arn't anarchists and realize we need a government, but a government that represents the people not the corporations,

I totally agree with the first part, but remember you as consumer have a lot of power.

I'll know the world is getting rapidly more healthyy when sales of make-up, women's mags and chocolate start falling. :cool:

[truthseeker1980]

I understand what you mean, but it's not necessarily going to always be like that, if we all harnessed the powers we have there wouldn't be any need for it.

Yeah the animal kingdom is like that, but that's because everthing in this dimension/wavelength/part of the matrix is designed that way, designed to create fuel for the continuation of the reality in which we live. Kill to survive is the way its designed to be, you know ying and yang, good and bad, why is it that way? because that's the easiest way to create more anxiety, more depression, more fear, more anger in both the animal kingdom and human world, which in turn could be the fuel for keeping the matrix running.

If we all woke up and I mean all, then none of that would matter, the laws and methods used wouldn't have to be used. The walls would come tumbling down, the veil of the matrix wouldn't constrict anyone and there wouldn't be a need for a government or anyone at the top.

You are thinking along the 3d laws of this reality, the way we have been conditioned to think and live for hundreds of years.

[lenejento]

i am very spiritual,but most people where i live believe spirituality only really comes with one of the main organized religions,and of course see me as being godless and unspiritual.

that right there is just an example of arrogance,and that is another human trait which will never dissapear.

Many people think they are very spiritual, but do they really know what/who they are?
Not saying you don't though :) I don't know anything about you, I'm talking more in general :)

[Anders Lindman]

Many people think they are very spiritual, but do they really know what/who they are?
Not saying you don't though :) I don't know anything about you, I'm talking more in general :)

I think for true spirituality one must move into 'pure awareness', or what Ramana Maharshi called the I-I, but then after that one has to move into the world of form again from the point of awareness.

[cycles of time]

I understand what you mean, but it's not necessarily going to always be like that, if we all harnessed the powers we have there wouldn't be any need for it.

Yeah the animal kingdom is like that, but that's because everthing in this dimension/wavelength/part of the matrix is designed that way, designed to create fuel for the continuation of the reality in which we live. Kill to survive is the way its designed to be, you know ying and yang, good and bad, why is it that way? because that's the easiest way to create more anxiety, more depression, more fear, more anger in both the animal kingdom and human world, which in turn could be the fuel for keeping the matrix running.

If we all woke up and I mean all, then none of that would matter, the laws and methods used wouldn't have to be used. The walls would come tumbling down, the veil of the matrix wouldn't constrict anyone and there wouldn't be a need for a government or anyone at the top.

You are thinking along the 3d laws of this reality, the way we have been conditioned to think and live for hundreds of years.

nope its basic survival. for example,i took a class which mainly focused on the psychological complexities,and simplicities,of the holocaust.
one thing which was obvious was that people would do anything to survive in those prison camps,even sell out their own family,and become grunts for the nazi's themselves. just for a little bit more food.

thats basic human survival.thats basic animals survival. thats called survival of the fittest,whether it be mental or physical.

if there was to be a national shortage on food or water,it would be the same exact situation.people would get truly primal on a large scale.mass hysteria. why are americans hoarding guns like crazy?

amoebas have wars. bacteria have wars. ants have wars.bees have wars. and humans have wars .

if someone was to blow a nuke in nyc,the world's governments and media would come together,and anyone else who had family in nyc. but the rest of the world would be cheering that shit on ,for all the atrocities america has committed.even americans would be secretely cheering that shit on(because prior to 9/11 the rest of america saw nyc as a shithole filled with jews spics niggers muslims gays hiphop and other things that america as a whole dislikes-think about the almost 175 million evangelicals christians.


if ufo's came to earth,i wouldnt believe it.to me it would be just a government production,like 9/11. you dont think they have ships that use the earth's gravitational force as an engine/magnet? but i bet a large part of the world would fall for it. then the government would use that to control/distract the people. aliens would not make public contact with humans. if they have any intelligence they know it would cause mass hysteria which would lead to humans getting primal.

no,i dont think in 3d.my mind has no limit. but i know society as a whole has a limit. and i know the human brain has a limit before it reverts to primal mode.its called fight or flight,which is part of the reptilian brain.

the only way you can truly get everyone to come together is if everyone took peyote at the same exact moment. but that wont be happening any time soon.

people would rather drink alcohol ,which is one of the greatest risks to life in america.

[vera susa]

The REAL TRUTH is SPIRITUAL
and you find the EVIDENCE
in The REAL WORLD that IS,
but ALL BUT 'THE VERY ELECT'
REJECT IT.

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