It's only fair

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

9/11.. Was fair.

The Iraq war, is only fair.

The holocaust, was fair.

The rich countries becoming controled, is only fair. The poor countries staying poor, is only fair.

When you really look at history, and understand that for every cause, there is an effect, than you will understand what I am saying.

[grover66]

9/11.. Was fair.

The Iraq war, is only fair.

The holocaust, was fair.

The rich countries becoming controled, is only fair. The poor countries staying poor, is only fair.

When you really look at history, and understand that for every cause, there is an effect, than you will understand what I am saying.

Colour me thick, but I don't get what you're saying.

Whaddya mean? :)

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I'm saying that there is no point to yell out anymore.

[grover66]

As in history will prove that they were for the good after all? As a result of these events, humanity eventually benefited?

Sorry, I'm not being facetious. I want to get what you're saying!

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

As in history will prove that they were for the good after all? As a result of these events, humanity eventually benefited?

Sorry, I'm not being facetious. I want to get what you're saying!

For example. 9/11 and the iraq war. Many americans dying. What has happened to other countries by the hands of america, and americans doing nothing about it. It is only fair what happened to them, and what is happening to them. That is Divine Law.

Is it just? Yes. Is it fair on a personal level? That's objective.

[rossus]

it's not fair, but not unfair either.
it is what it is.

action - reaction

eye for an eye makes the whole world blind - mahatma gandhi

:)

[revolutionary_jam]

personally I don't think you have no right to judge what is due karma to anyone you don't know mate

[grover66]

I think I get what you mean, if you're basicaly saying it's a "karma" kind of thing. But what about "poor countries staying poor is only fair" and "the holocaust was only fair"?

And if the Iraq War is fair because of Americans dying there, what about Iraqi citizens dying there? Why is that fair?

Maybe I don't get it after all! :) And it's 2 am now and I have to work in the morning and I'm going to bed!

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

It's about balance.

You want luxery, you must pay for it. You want spiritual enlightenment, you must pay for it. It's all about Divine Law.

Cause and Effect.

Some are here to make things happen, others are here to ensure things go the way they are meant to go. Others are here to ensure that for things that aren't suppose to happen.
You can not have the best of both worlds. To gain, sacrafice must be made.
To gain and not sacrifice is against Divine Law and can not happen. To not gain, is to not sacrifice. But this means that you deserve nothing. So if nothing comes to you, one must not complain.

I know someone is bound to throw up a picture of a dead baby killed by war.
As I said, it is objective. Although it does not seem fair, it happens for a reason. Whether to learn, to enlighten others of their ways.

For example. If people were to truely learn from the horrors of war from those pictures, the Bush's wouldn't have a dime left to their name. But they did not learn, and now they are paying for their ways. They too are dying over there. They have stayed ignorant.

As above, so below...

[lilly555]

i get what his lordship is saying:)

[lizzy]

i get what his lordship is saying:)
So do I , I get what his lordship is saying and it is bullsh*t.
The luxury he talks of woun't be around for long, not for most anyway.
As above, so below...OMG, and I saw looking forward to "passing on" one day.
We are here to support are fellow humans againist the evil greed for power not go."ho hum".
I do agree in one respect. It probally is too late , theiir control is nearly total now and just to throw ones' hands up and give up is tempting
I just don;t see Icke doing it.
love,lizzy

[ninja17]

there is an effect

whut effect?

For example. 9/11 and the iraq war. Many americans dying. What has happened to other countries by the hands of america, and americans doing nothing about it. It is only fair what happened to them, and what is happening to them. That is Divine Law.

Right.The majority of americans let it happen.But they were manipulated through lies.So its not fair whut happened to them and the people in irak and it is not Divine Law,i think.Btw,how do you define the Divine Law?

[adimon]

For example. 9/11 and the iraq war. Many americans dying. What has happened to other countries by the hands of america, and americans doing nothing about it. It is only fair what happened to them, and what is happening to them. That is Divine Law.

Is it just? Yes. Is it fair on a personal level? That's objective.

What is Divine Law? Can you explain it in operational terms from an atheist perspective please? Don't you mean fairness on a personal level is SUBJECTIVE?

personally I don't think you have no right to judge what is due karma to anyone you don't know mate

I agree that consequences are beyond anyone's right to judge as fair. I don't call it karma, but otherwise I agree with rev_jam.

Btw,how do you define the Divine Law?

I would also like a definition please. :)

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Divine Law.
Pure Justice..

Like "karma", one could say, if you were to dumb it down abit.

Even drinking a can of coke has a negetive effect on you, if you know how that can got there, and what it does to you.

Cause and Effect..


It's funny that so many speak of "oneness" but take everything on an "individual" level, is it not?

[majicdragon]

So If I get mad at the things you spew, and I punch your teeth in, psychically, using some other innocent person to do the punching, that's only fair as well h!s_l0rdsh!p?

Cause I was actually looking for a volunteer victim for some psychic experiments long since due to be run. You'll be perfect.

Just to make sure, and before I get into attempting this psychic feat, tell me that it would be fair.

If it's fair, then I'll attempt it OK?

And if it happens, I can describe the scene to you and we can see the similarities of what I saw while possessing the body of the person punching your teeth right in, and what you saw while getting your teeth punched right in.

Mind you h1s_l0rdsh!p, I've not tried this before out of pure spite, so It might not work... but it just might.

You just give me the go-ahead, and we'll give it a college-try.

If it works?... Well, it'll go a long way to proving this type of thing possible... What do you think?...


anxiously awaiting response...

[friendsinthesky]

Divine Law.
Pure Justice..

Like "karma", one could say, if you were to dumb it down abit.

Even drinking a can of coke has a negetive effect on you, if you know how that can got there, and what it does to you.

Cause and Effect..


It's funny that so many speak of "oneness" but take everything on an "individual" level, is it not?

So, you are suggesting that it is fair that so many innocent people in Iraq were killed because of 911? Is this what you are saying?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

So, you are suggesting that it is fair that so many innocent people in Iraq were killed because of 911? Is this what you are saying?

You're missing the big picture on this.
No, it is not fair that these people have been killed. But it does become fair when their enemies are killed.
Yes, people were "lied" to, but they had every chance to find out the truth. Manipulation only happens to a weak mind.
And when they (illuminati) go away for awhile, it will be fair. But will our generation make the right choices? Will the generations that follow?
Left, to Right. Left, to Right.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Let me get just abit deeper about this.

What goes up, must come down.
Get it?

[ninja17]

Yea,whut goes around comes around.But not on this major scale i think.It just makes the people feel guilty for whut they unfortunatly let happen but they werent the ones who had a major psychological manipulating plan for it using religions against each other etc..You had to be somehow a bit in this "nutter" conspiracy shit to know whut that whole thing was about..And when a country sends troops to war somewhere you cant expect everybody to come back healthy,that was the price for a lot of american families..

but may be you right...dont know.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

For everything that has been taken from this planet, it must be given back. And that which is not given back, the planet will take.
There is a cartoon that has a wise phrase to it: Full Metal Alchemest.
They say, the main law of alchemy is:
In order to gain, something of equal value must be given.

Very simple, but very true. Even for an anime.
Take from the earth as much as you want, but one must realize that you need to give back. Or the earth will take back.
But that's only going along one plane, mind you.

[randyt]

h1s l0rdsh1p,

I'm curious, what exactly do you think makes you an expert on Divine Law?


Randy

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

h1s l0rdsh1p,

I'm curious, what exactly do you think makes you an expert on Divine Law?


Randy

Where does this thought come from?

[randyt]

Where do Idea's come from?

So again, what exactly do you think is it that makes you an expert on Divine Law?

Now I'm really curious.

Randy

[whitenight639]

You're missing the big picture on this.
No, it is not fair that these people have been killed. But it does become fair when their enemies are killed.
Yes, people were "lied" to, but they had every chance to find out the truth. Manipulation only happens to a weak mind.
And when they (illuminati) go away for awhile, it will be fair. But will our generation make the right choices? Will the generations that follow?
Left, to Right. Left, to Right.


I think you'd know how unfair it is if you lived in iraq, its not the 'weak' minded people that dont know its the poor people that dont have access to the internet through no fault of there own, having said that tho there will always be stupid people and ignorant people.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I think you'd know how unfair it is if you lived in iraq, its not the 'weak' minded people that dont know its the poor people that dont have access to the internet through no fault of there own, having said that tho there will always be stupid people and ignorant people.

I'm not saying that they are stupid, but they are ignorant.

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–adjective 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
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Now, many of these people of poor countries follow religions that we luck few in western countries are able to find the true history of, and know of it's origins.
Of course they are also being supressed, by their leaders.
Is it fair? No. But as I question in another thread, how can you know true freedom, until you've had it all taken away from you?
They will be free someday, not be military, but by peaceful matters. After a blood bath, or course. This is the normal course of history. Humans of a lower level have never been able to learn much with out alot of pain involved. Do you think tribes knew about the best medicines for their people right off the bat? It was alot of trial and error.
Plus, you need to remember that alot of resources are taken from the earth in those countries. As I had said early, you give back, or the earth will take. And although it doesn't seem fair that the illuminati are giving innocent blood, something still needs to be given in return.
And even when peace comes, and we are still taking from there, the earth will take back it's self. You can't have something for nothing.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Where do Idea's come from?

So again, what exactly do you think is it that makes you an expert on Divine Law?

Now I'm really curious.

Randy

You want to understand the world, observe it.
You want to understand the universe, observe it.
I never said I was an expert, and never claimed to be.
I speak of what I've observed.
Everything has spirit within it. Everything has a cycle that will be repeated.
You want to know more about Divine Law, observe ALL.

[randyt]

Yes, but in your posts you try to present your observations as matters-of-fact. That in my opinion is pretty presumptious.

If you want to know Yourself, observe Yourself.


Randy

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Yes, but in your posts you try to present your observations as matters-of-fact. That in my opinion is pretty presumptious.

If you want to know Yourself, observe Yourself.


Randy

Well, observation is perceptive, yes. But there are universal truths, like it or not.
1: Change is the only thing that will stay the same
2: To get anything, you must give something
Those are only a few I believe everyone can agree with.
Now, of course observing something with empathy towards others, you will have a different outcome to it, yes. Does this mean I have no empathy? No, but I understand the universe. How the world is.
Although it may seem cruel, it has to happen in order to keep balance.

[randyt]

Well, observation is perceptive, yes. But there are universal truths, like it or not.
1: Change is the only thing that will stay the same
2: To get anything, you must give something
Those are only a few I believe everyone can agree with.
Now, of course observing something with empathy towards others, you will have a different outcome to it, yes. Does this mean I have no empathy? No, but I understand the universe. How the world is.
Although it may seem cruel, it has to happen in order to keep balance.


There you go again;

".....a few I believe everyone can agree with" - You cannot in any way, shape or form speak for everyone. They will decide for themselves.

".....but I understand the universe." - Well Mr. Einstein I will look forward to reading your next scientific paper.

"...it has to happen in order to keep balance" - Unless you know the mind of the Creator of the Universe you have no way of knowing what is going to happen, when, or why that event has to occur.

Having said that I will leave you with your delusions since obviously you enjoy feeding them.


Randy

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

:confused:There you go again;

".....a few I believe everyone can agree with" - You cannot in any way, shape or form speak for everyone. They will decide for themselves.
You're right. I can tell everyone the sky is blue, but it's still my opinion.


".....but I understand the universe." - Well Mr. Einstein I will look forward to reading your next scientific paper.

Great! I'll be speaking about why it was best for dinosaurs to die out, so that human beings could evolve. But please take certain phrases out of context and twist them like you've done with this one.
Then again, it is easy to describe a book when just taking choice sentances and twisting them.

"...it has to happen in order to keep balance" - Unless you know the mind of the Creator of the Universe you have no way of knowing what is going to happen, when, or why that event has to occur.
There you go again with taking out of context. No one will ever know what ALL is thinking, or why it even does anything. But they know WHAT ALL does through principles. And one of them is the swing of the pendulum. Just because they get away with things now, doesn't mean that they will always get away with it. You're still not seeing the bigger picture though, are you?

Having said that I will leave you with your delusions since obviously you enjoy feeding them.
Randy
:confused:

[norton]

hmmm, trying to be very wise here aren't you. but you seem to be ignoring the fact that 9/11 was done by 'THEM' for the war in iraq. Therefore, neither case is fair. manipulation is not, or cannot, lead to karma for the innocent. The people in the twin towers were not killed by terrorists so therefore karma did not come into play for them. Maybe they will be reborn into a higher state only time will tell. The plain fact of the matter is they did not deserve to die for the greater good. there is no greater good in attacking and/or killing innocent poeple. Therefore your whole hypothesis is incorrect.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

hmmm, trying to be very wise here aren't you. but you seem to be ignoring the fact that 9/11 was done by 'THEM' for the war in iraq. Therefore, neither case is fair. manipulation is not, or cannot, lead to karma for the innocent. The people in the twin towers were not killed by terrorists so therefore karma did not come into play for them. Maybe they will be reborn into a higher state only time will tell. The plain fact of the matter is they did not deserve to die for the greater good. there is no greater good in attacking and/or killing innocent poeple. Therefore your whole hypothesis is incorrect.

WTC. Biggest money making building in the world. It thrived off of the enslavement and murder of many people around the world. Knocked down, destroyed. This can be seen as "karma". By the way, I'm not calling it "Karma" for a reason.
Now, innocent people died, this is correct. This was an eye opener, we are doing something wrong to the world to deserve this. But who thought that way? No one, and THEY knew no one would think that way. I will correct myself, a few did, but they knew it wouldn't make a difference. People could have learned from this, but they didn't. Instead, they went after more innocents and Saddam. Why Saddam? Well, as many people he had killed, he had it coming. But why he and not them? Because he didn't do it out of sacrifice.
But why the innocents sacrificed and not them?
Well, who's using it?
Think about that. They are getting billions of currency worth nothing. They studied most of their lives (atleast most of them), and have very good knowledge of many things. Occultic and logical. Now, they understand by taking so much from the planet, a sacrifice must be made. So what do you do? Some of them have sacrificed their children(Diana, anyone), but that's not enough. So who's really using that's which is coming from the earth?
Is it fair? Objective.
We don't HAVE to use it, but we do. And even the sheeple have heard the jokes, and know that advertisment brainwashes you, and they know it's true, but they don't care.
But this isn't just to the earth either.
However, you're missnig the big picture and are only focusing on key points that really don't matter. What really does matter are things that I've said, but barely anyone is paying attention to them, so I'm not sure if it's even worth the time to keep telling people.
I'll say this though once more:
The pedulum swings both ways. When it goes one way, it will go back to the other.

[norton]

i do understand what you are trying to say, but i disagree with it.

you say 'Now, innocent people died, this is correct. This was an eye opener, we are doing something wrong to the world to deserve this'. i presume you are talking about 9/11.

so, you think we, as people, deserved it because of what we are doing to the world? I disagree, i think it was power hungry bastards manipulating people to start the war in iraq.

and

'People could have learned from this, but they didn't. Instead, they went after more innocents and Saddam. Why Saddam? Well, as many people he had killed, he had it coming. But why he and not them? Because he didn't do it out of sacrifice. '

Again, you sound as if it was a concious choice by 'normal' people. incorrect, THEY wanted saddam dead and needed to blame him to further their agenda.


i can see what you mean when you say that they need to keep sacrificing to keep the world in balance, but i don't believe that's why they do it. i believe they do for their own blood thirsty rituals and to worship their own god. I believe they couldn't 2 hoots about the state of the earth as long as they have power and money that's all they want