This Monster Is Coming After Your Children

[dconrad000]

This Monster Is Coming After Your Children

This is John P Holdren -- one of the most influential "scientists" in the world, who along with others like him, direct policy nationally and internationally. He is the current White House "Science Czar" -- Director of Science and Technology for the entire United States government. He is for profound population reduction. If he can sterilize you by stealth -- he is all for that. If he can kill you and your children -- even better.

If you are not acquainted with who this man is -- you really should be.

Here are two stories that have come out in the past two days about him (8-23-10 and 8-24-10, respectively):




1992 John Holdren Publication Reaffirms Devotion to Population Control through “Global Effort”
Yet another writing has surfaced authored by current science czar John P. Holdren, detailing his enduring vision of a depopulated planet.


http://www.infowars.com/1992-john-holdren-publication-reaffirms-devotion-to-population-control-through-global-effort/






Ehrlich and Holdren: Death “Reasonable Price to Pay” for Well-being of Society
The head-hunters of the scientific dictatorship are not simply powerless psychopaths exchanging abstract ideas.


http://www.infowars.com/ehrlich-and-holdren-death-reasonable-price-to-pay-for-well-being-of-society/




...In the horrible euphemistic way these proposals disguised as “possibilities” are usually being presented lies hidden a horrible truth. These head-hunters of the scientific dictatorship are not simply powerless psychopaths exchanging abstract ideas. They are powerful sociopaths rather, occupying key positions within the marble halls of academia and government. In the final equation, they are after you and your children...

[dconrad000]

IMPORTANT

To find out how to protect yourself and your family from this monster...

...and for additional extremely important information, including a simple tool you can use -- that costs you nothing -- which enables you with a mere few clicks of a mouse, to quickly and soundly convince all the people you care about -- concerning the absolute fraud and danger of vaccines...which is one of the most diabolical and potent instruments John P Holdren and his ilk have at their disposal -- combined with the very real possiblility of mandatory vaccinations -- which have been specifically designed to sterilize; sicken; shorten life -- and even kill you...

I refer you to this thread:


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123157

[dneif]

I really hope you've researched this topic before posting. It was upsetting to witness such immature behavior from somebody who purports to represent a field where research is key.

Everyone feel free to scrutinize the claims beyond the information he presents.

That "just think of the children" appeal to emotion is a primary tool employed by the pharm industry when they want to bypass scrutiny.

This and your previous post on this forum are horrible marketing gimmick to direct traffic to your interview thread.

[dconrad000]

To the viewers of this thread: I wouldn't take Dneif too seriously if I were you. If you want to see for yourself what took place on the thread of which he speaks, I welcome you to go and see for yourself. I suspected him to be an agent provacateur from the beginning, while feigning to be anti-NWO and anti-Big Pharma...as clever and crafty disinfo agents often do...

...anyway, in about 9 unsuccessful posts of trying to engage me in a manner that pleased him...you can see how his comments began to spiral downward to reveal what he was and is -- really all about. He convicts himself with his own words, which when compared to what he has written just above -- also exposes him to be an out-and-out-liar (but then, I imagine that agent provacateurs naturally would be liars-at-heart).

Here is the second to the last of his posts that he posted on that thread, yesterday. This one no longer appears, as it was deleted by a mod. It is obvious that at this point, he felt he needed to resort to using utter nonsense, combined with vulgar, pornographic obscenity -- to attempt to disrupt the thread (and steer away decent, family-oriented folk). If that is his intent here also -- I'm not going to let him get away with it.

To see for yourself -- visit page 12 and 13 of the referenced thread (for clarity -- this is a different thread from that referenced in post #2):

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130730


...and this is the post that was deleted by the moderator, and well it should have been. It appeared between posts # 128 and 129. I saved it in case he should attempt to hide what he had done with a subsequent edit. Because of the obscene vulgarity of it, it would be my preference to not have to post it...but I see no other alternative here, than to post the proof.

As a self-diagnosed victUm of Asperger's Syndome (THANK YOU WEB MD!) I think "a little autism" is nothing to be ashamed of.

Case in point:
* Rain Man
* Temple Grandin
* Me (My awesome debate abilities derive from my self-diagnosed sex addiction because i totally get a lot of sex in the one hour a day I'm not scouring DIF for minor inaccuracies)
* Adrian Lamo
* Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
* Bumpy Bumpersen

[kblood]

The name Fiend is a strange one too choose, but from his most recent posts he seems okay. I had to check out what this was about, since I do not really trust infowars on its own.

I found this though:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamas-science-czar-suggested-compulsory-abortion-sterilization-50783612.html

and this:
John Holdren - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

His work has focused on the causes and consequences of global environmental change, energy technologies and policies, ways to reduce the dangers from nuclear weapons and materials, and science and technology policy.[1][2] He lives in Falmouth, Massachusetts, with his wife, biologist Cheryl E. Holdren, with whom he has two children and five grandchildren.

So he is a bit of a hypocrite or am I wrong? He has two children of his own, and 5 grandchildren, but still he thought about taking that option away from people without their consent in the book he wrote in 1977.

Early publications

Overpopulation was an early concern and interest. In a 1969 article, Holdren and co-author Paul R. Ehrlich argued that, "if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come."[19] In 1973 Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because "210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many."[20] In 1977, Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne H. Ehrlich, and Holdren co-authored the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment; they discussed the possible role of a wide variety of solutions to overpopulation, from voluntary family planning to enforced population controls, including forced sterilization for women after they gave birth to a designated number of children, and recommended "the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences" such as access to birth control and abortion.[10][21]

Other early publications include Energy (1971), Human Ecology (1973), Energy in Transition (1980), Earth and the Human Future (1986), Strategic Defenses and the Future of the Arms Race (1987), Building Global Security Through Cooperation (1990), and Conversion of Military R&D (1998).[12

So yea, he is a hypocrite. And to get to the even more alarming part. Why the heck is he researching how to reduce the dangers of nuclear weapons and materials? Does he expect a lot of cleanup will be needed? On top of this he is researching global warming...

No doubt he is one of the people spinning the publics opinion, and working think tanks at the same time. So far he has worked as advisor for at least 3 presidents. Advisor is really just another word for one of the people who really has the power in the US. They are not limited to 3 terms or anything, but people pay no attention to that. Who minds having people with several awards for their intellect as advisors to their president? Well I do for one, if this kind of person is thought of as intelligent. Not that the statement on its own is wrong, I just think he might be missing a much needed counterweight for that intelligence.

[nosebleed]

Na hes correct this guy is bad news..

Obama has recently appointed John Holdren - Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.

Some things he has said .

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[dconrad000]

Kblood, thank you for your well-thought-out and put together post -- and for the additional links you provided. I appreciate you taking the time for all that.



...So he is a bit of a hypocrite or am I wrong?...




...LOL...

...yeah, I guess you could say he's a bit of a hypocrite...but of course that is a mild sin -- compared to mass-murderer-at-heart. He is among the elite that would like to kill most of us off; keep the rest around as slaves; and make obscene profits in the process.

[dconrad000]

Na hes correct this guy is bad news..

Obama has recently appointed John Holdren - Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.

Some things he has said .

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.


Thank you, Nosebleed. I appreciate that excellent post.

...and documentation for all that and more, can be found in the thread referenced in post #2.

[dneif]

To the viewers of this thread: I wouldn't take Dneif too seriously if I were you. If you want to see for yourself what took place on the thread of which he speaks, I welcome you to go and see for yourself. I suspected him to be an agent provacateur from the beginning, while feigning to be anti-NWO and anti-Big Pharma...as clever and crafty disinfo agents often do...

...anyway, in about 9 unsuccessful posts of trying to engage me in a manner that pleased him...you can see how his comments began to spiral downward to reveal what he was and is -- really all about. He convicts himself with his own words, which when compared to what he has written just above -- also exposes him to be an out-and-out-liar (but then, I imagine that agent provacateurs naturally would be liars-at-heart).

Here is the second to the last of his posts that he posted on that thread, yesterday. This one no longer appears, as it was deleted by a mod. It is obvious that at this point, he felt he needed to resort to using utter nonsense, combined with vulgar, pornographic obscenity -- to attempt to disrupt the thread (and steer away decent, family-oriented folk). If that is his intent here also -- I'm not going to let him get away with it.

To see for yourself -- visit page 12 and 13 of the referenced thread (for clarity -- this is a different thread from that referenced in post #2):

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130730


...and this is the post that was deleted by the moderator, and well it should have been. It appeared between posts # 128 and 129. I saved it in case he should attempt to hide what he had done with a subsequent edit. Because of the obscene vulgarity of it, it would be my preference to not have to post it...but I see no other alternative here, than to post the proof.You mean when you gave up on defending the claims in the previous thread and so I posted a sattire in defense of self-diagnosed asperger's patients?

Feel free to link that thread, where you encourage people to draw their own conclusions, and where after I examine the scientific journals and specifically argue that this doesn't show a link between FETAL TISSUE and AD? Then you go through the motions of self-referencing your interview thread a hundred times and throw up a wall of text demanding that everyone ignore me, and draw their own conclusions?

I posted several times asking that you at least show me where I was wrong, but you wasted your efforts strawmanning, and now you're presenting a non-sequiturial rant as a serious post. You're extremely disengenuous, and as someone in the medical profession who claims to be capable of addressing the actual problems in the Pharma industry, you seem only interested in stifling critical thought directed towards you and generating traffic and business to yourself.

We need more critical thinkers and fewer hypersensitive fevered egos like DConrad appears to be.

[dconrad000]

...since I do not really trust infowars on its own...




Point well taken, Kblood...always good to confirm and verify...

...but I do have some thoughts about Infowars...

I find them to be well researched with regards to the goings-on of the Elite running the world...and on many issues which I feel to have been very important...they have most often turned out to be accurate.

The news that comes from Infowars is extremely contrary to that which you will find in the main-stream news...and that is a good thing, since the main-stream news (Fox included) is the mouthpiece of the Elite running the world -- who want to kill most of us off -- keep the rest of us around as slaves -- and make obscene profits in the process.

Here is a little blast from the past, which many here should enjoy...Infowars attempting to warn the public about 9/11...and even prevent it from happening by having listeners flood the whitehouse and congress letting them know that the "jig was up"...of course that did not happen, because few would believe -- before it happened.

...anyway...here it is:


Alex Jones predicts Bin Laden attack 2 months before 9/11 - YouTube (2:57 Minutes)


Alex Jones predicts Bin Laden attack 2 months before 9/11 - YouTube

[dconrad000]

...So far he has worked as advisor for at least 3 presidents. Advisor is really just another word for one of the people who really has the power in the US. They are not limited to 3 terms or anything, but people pay no attention to that...




Very important point, Kblood...power in the US...and really, in the entire world...can you say Henry Kissinger?...as one infamous example...

[real6]

Dr. Conrad, i don't trust you after you killed Jacko!!!!

But everything you say is correct. I posted about H a few days ago on my FB. and some of my friends never even heard of this fucking guy and what he is about...

I'll have to post what i wrote tonight when i get home from work.

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Geo-Engineering John Holdren - YouTube



Obama's science czar believes in eugenics

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.



http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population


Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?

These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

Impossible, you say? That must be an exaggeration or a hoax. No one in their right mind would say such things.

Well, I hate to break the news to you, but it is no hoax, no exaggeration. John Holdren really did say those things, and this report contains the proof. Below you will find photographs, scans, and transcriptions of pages in the book Ecoscience, co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich. The scans and photos are provided to supply conclusive evidence that the words attributed to Holdren are unaltered and accurately transcribed.

[UPDATE: Make sure to read the new statements issued by the White House and by John Holdren's office in response to the controversy raised by this essay -- you can see them below following the Ecoscience excerpts, or you can jump directly to the statements by clicking here.]

This report was originally inspired by this article in FrontPage magazine, which covers some of the same information given here. But that article, although it contained many shocking quotes from John Holdren, failed to make much of an impact on public opinion. Why not? Because, as I discovered when discussing the article with various friends, there was no proof that the quotes were accurate -- so most folks (even those opposed to Obama's policies) doubted their veracity, because the statements seemed too inflammatory to be true. In the modern era, it seems, journalists have lost all credibility, and so are presumed to be lying or exaggerating unless solid evidence is offered to back up the claims. Well, this report contains that evidence.

Of course, Holdren wrote these things in the framework of a book he co-authored about what he imagined at the time (late 1970s) was an apocalyptic crisis facing mankind: overpopulation. He felt extreme measures would be required to combat an extreme problem. Whether or not you think this provides him a valid "excuse" for having descended into a totalitarian fantasy is up to you: personally, I don't think it's a valid excuse at all, since the crisis he was in a panic over was mostly in his imagination. Totalitarian regimes and unhinged people almost always have what seems internally like a reasonable justification for actions which to the outside world seem incomprehensible.

[dconrad000]

Real6, thank you for that awesome post.

Please do come back and post more...

...I am sitting here splitting my gut, laughing about one thing though...





Dr. Conrad, i don't trust you after you killed Jacko!!!!

But everything you say is correct. I posted about H a few days ago on my FB. and some of my friends never even heard of this @#*$% guy and what he is about...




I was trying to figure out what you meant by that -- thinking that you perhaps meant it figuratively -- as in verbally annihilated one of your forum friends, perhaps...or some such...

...then it dawned on me...you must have meant Michael Jackson...

...well that is very forgiving of you to have made that great post...all the while thinking that I was the one who "killed Jacko".

You'll be happy to know that the doctor who killed Michael Jackson's name is Conrad Murray. My name is Dave Conrad...no relation...never even met the guy.

...LOL...

[real6]

...then it dawned on me...you must have meant Michael Jackson...

...well that is very forgiving of you to have made that great post...all the while thinking that I was the one who "killed Jacko".

You'll be happy to know that the doctor who killed Michael Jackson's name is Conrad Murray. My name is Dave Conrad...no relation...never even met the guy.

...LOL...


Nah i know. I couldn't help it. Alot of people really dont know about this. They need to know what these people want to do to us!!!

:)

[dconrad000]

...couldn't help it. Alot of people really dont know about this. They need to know what these people want to do to us!!!

:)


Amen to that Real6. Thank you for your efforts to get the truth out on this and a number of other issues. I really appreciated that home-birthing thread you started a while back. That wound up being a great thread.

[real6]

Amen to that Real6. Thank you for your efforts to get the truth out on this and a number of other issues. I really appreciated that home-birthing thread you started a while back. That wound up being a great thread.

Anytime. Thanks :)

That was a good thread.

[largejack]

Holdren? The very same pushing the climate change, depopulation, humans are scum agenda. The very same who said the world was heading into another ice age 30 years ago?

[dneif]

What is the trend of these proponents of deregulation, who after one administration, moves on to a position in academia during the next administration to reestablish their credibility before moving back into a position to further deregulation?

Remember all those fucksticks from the Bush admin who moved on to teaching positions? You know that General McChrystal fella? Sort of lost his clout by talking to Rolling Stone, was forced to resign, and just accepted a teaching position? Alberto "Gonzales also went on to Harvard to teach ... crap I don't recall.

I wanted to talk more about deregulation as a whole but there is an odd pattern where these people are shifted to and from the spotlight.

Any of you folks read William Blum of Killing Hope (http://www.killinghope.org/) fame or Naomi Klein who authored Shock Doctrine (http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine). William Blum is a great researcher on identifying and following the many "Trojan Horses of Democracy" shat out by the US to support global corporate interests, and Naomi Klein specifically talks about foreign graduates from the Chicago School of business who went on to facilitate the dismantling of the middle class in South American countries.

[dconrad000]

...as I stated on another thread, it is my strong preference that this thread be kept a "G-rated"; "Family-Friendly" environment -- with respect to certain word usage and decorum.

I explained exactly why I feel that way in some detail beginning around page 8 of that thread, for any that may be interested:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130730


I am appreciative that the vast majority of visitors to my threads have been kind enough to honor those stated beliefs and wishes...and as more of you become aware of my preference in that regard...I am confident that most of you will be kind enough to take that into consideration as well.

[kblood]

Very important point, Kblood...power in the US...and really, in the entire world...can you say Henry Kissinger?...as one infamous example...

Yea, I recently looking into the Project for a New American Century, and found that its more than a few people who seems to stick around in the government in between presidents and seemingly calling the shots, because what they say and what they advice the president to say is what will happen.

And they are allowed to work for private companies while doing this. Its not even any secret at all that Exxon had an advisor for Bush Jr. and I guess that kind of thing is very common. Whatever company has enough money going around for it to be worthwhile to pay what it takes to have a guy in the Presidents ear. Yea, seems money really does rule the world. And these people are often nameless. You hear about the president, and sometimes they are referred to as the presidents advisor. But I have never seen any focus on these people other than side notes.

And this guy is one of them, and they are often supporting wars and making sure they happen. And in this guys wiki page it even says openly he is researching how to reduce the damage done by nuclear waste and nuclear bombs. Somehow he does not strike me as the person who will go clean up in Hiroshima. And how much is nuclear bombs being used these days? As far as I know they hardly even test them, but then I guess I would not know about it if they did.

[dconrad000]

Very important point, Kblood...power in the US...and really, in the entire world...can you say Henry Kissinger?...as one infamous example...

Yea, I recently looking into the Project for a New American Century, and found that its more than a few people who seems to stick around in the government in between presidents and seemingly calling the shots, because what they say and what they advice the president to say is what will happen.

And they are allowed to work for private companies while doing this. Its not even any secret at all that Exxon had an advisor for Bush Jr. and I guess that kind of thing is very common. Whatever company has enough money going around for it to be worthwhile to pay what it takes to have a guy in the Presidents ear. Yea, seems money really does rule the world. And these people are often nameless. You hear about the president, and sometimes they are referred to as the presidents advisor. But I have never seen any focus on these people other than side notes.

And this guy is one of them, and they are often supporting wars and making sure they happen. And in this guys wiki page it even says openly he is researching how to reduce the damage done by nuclear waste and nuclear bombs. Somehow he does not strike me as the person who will go clean up in Hiroshima. And how much is nuclear bombs being used these days? As far as I know they hardly even test them, but then I guess I would not know about it if they did.


Thank you for taking the time to share those added observations, Kblood. Here is a great little piece and video on the subject that I think you will appreciate:


Globalists Henry Kissinger & Richard Haass Confronted on Terrorism and Global Depopulation Policies


http://www.infowars.com/globalists-henry-kissinger-richard-haass-confronted-on-terrorism-and-global-depopulation-policies/

[dneif]

So the one thing you take away from my post is the word "shat" deeply buried in it? You discount it on the grounds that in page 8 on another thread in another forum you wanted to keep it G-rated?
...as I stated on another thread, it is my strong preference that this thread be kept a "G-rated"; "Family-Friendly" environment -- with respect to certain word usage and decorum.

I explained exactly why I feel that way in some detail beginning around page 8 of that thread, for any that may be interested:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130730I know you love referencing that thread. Like how you said "look at post 53 in <this> thread", which was a post of yours saying "look at post 2 of <this> thread", which turned out to be a boilerplate post you immediately post along with any fearmongering tripe to get more people to check out a youtube interview you have done. It seems your goal is to stifle legitimate criticism and direct attention to yourself as the sole arbiter of facts when a cursory examination of your evidence displays flaws?

What is even more disturbing is you're attempting discount the contributions of others with frivolous and hypersensitive nonsense. This is the paramount of irresponsibility for anyone purporting to want to save lives.

I am appreciative that the vast majority of visitors to my threads have been kind enough to honor those stated beliefs and wishes...and as more of you become aware of my preference in that regard...I am confident that most of you will be kind enough to take that into consideration as well.I appreciate that you really want attention, and am glad that you're simply not empty-quoting me saying "thanks for the bump".

I encourage everyone to take a look at how this guy presents information in a way that only draws attention to himself. He seems to be more of an attention seeker rather than a professional with a vested interest in helping people.

As someone in a background in research who began by studying natural medicine and physical therapy at Bastyr, I feel you are a quack and are intellectually irresponsible. We need more critical thinkers and less disingenuous quacks who just want to be the center of attention.

[dconrad000]

With reference to Dneif's diatribe just above...it is humerous to note that my approach with him from the very beginning was simply to say that I disagreed with him -- that we were simply going to have to agree to disagree -- and that I would encourage everyone to look at everything for themselves and to draw their own conclusions. He became upset when he failed to engage me in a manner that pleased him...and he railed on me for that approach.

...but now he seems to have co opted that approach as his own -- giving the false impression that it originated with him.

...yes, as I have said all along -- I encourage everyone to look at everything for yourselves and draw your own conclusions. You might want to start back at post #4 of this thread -- to see what Dneif is all about.

I am surprised you continue to attempt to defend yourself for your dispicable behavior, Dneif. Don't you realize that you are only digging yourself deeper and deeper. It is becoming more and more plain for all to see -- who and what you really are.

I won't be wasting much energy on you in the future, Dneif. You can wear yourself out at the keyboard, if that is your desire -- and I will simply -- every so often, respond Post #4 and Post #23.

[dneif]

With reference to Dneif's diatribe just above...it is humerous to note that my approach with him from the very beginning was simply to say that I disagreed with him However both yourself and me both have a background in medicine and research where citations and substantive arguments are weighed to draw conclusions, rather than it being a process of "Maaaaan, that's just your opinion".

Your approach is fear mongering using hot button issues to get pro-lifers and uninformed people on your side. Instead of articulating yourself in such a manner as to employ the capability of research and critical thought, you're dismissive and combative and would rather critics follow a fool's errand rather than subject your hasty and erroneous conclusions to actual criticism.

[largejack]

Yea, I recently looking into the Project for a New American Century, and found that its more than a few people who seems to stick around in the government in between presidents and seemingly calling the shots, because what they say and what they advice the president to say is what will happen.

And they are allowed to work for private companies while doing this. Its not even any secret at all that Exxon had an advisor for Bush Jr. and I guess that kind of thing is very common. Whatever company has enough money going around for it to be worthwhile to pay what it takes to have a guy in the Presidents ear. Yea, seems money really does rule the world. And these people are often nameless. You hear about the president, and sometimes they are referred to as the presidents advisor. But I have never seen any focus on these people other than side notes.

And this guy is one of them, and they are often supporting wars and making sure they happen. And in this guys wiki page it even says openly he is researching how to reduce the damage done by nuclear waste and nuclear bombs. Somehow he does not strike me as the person who will go clean up in Hiroshima. And how much is nuclear bombs being used these days? As far as I know they hardly even test them, but then I guess I would not know about it if they did.

Rothschild Zionists

[dneif]

Rothschild Zionists

Yes but pay attention to the personalities as well as their progeny. Identify where they come from, their associates and alleged detractors and the political theater which is a weak substitute for debate.

"William Kristol" is the founder of PNAC, the son of Trotskyist Irving Kristol who invented neoconservatism. Look at what he's got his hands in, and keep on the look out for his son who is being groomed to take the family reins.

I won't be wasting much energy on you in the future, Dneif. You can wear yourself out at the keyboard, if that is your desire -- and I will simply -- every so often, respond Post #4 and Post #23. Yes you've conducted yourself with such quackish demeanor that I don't expect you to start posting with anything of substance. Hence the nonsequitur you've misrepresented in post #4


Edit: you've bumped this post three times after no response. If readers are concerned about vaccination, than they'll go to that forum. Stop manufacturing interest you shill.

[dconrad000]

Thank you for taking the time to share those added observations, Kblood. Here is a great little piece and video on the subject that I think you will appreciate:


Globalists Henry Kissinger & Richard Haass Confronted on Terrorism and Global Depopulation Policies


http://www.infowars.com/globalists-henry-kissinger-richard-haass-confronted-on-terrorism-and-global-depopulation-policies/


...related...

National Security Study Memorandum 200

Henry Kissinger's 1974 Plan for
Food Control Genocide


http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html

[dconrad000]

...The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;...




...focusing on this one of your several important points, Nosebleed...

...adding to it...don't forget...or in vaccinations...

...and if you succeed at sterilizing the population at large -- you effectively "kill" them -- wipe them out in one generation.

[dconrad000]

...The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;...






...focusing on this one of your several important points, Nosebleed...

...adding to it...don't forget...or in vaccinations...

...and if you succeed at sterilizing the population at large -- you effectively "kill" them -- wipe them out in one generation.




...related...


Massive Brazilian Vaccination Raises Suspicions of Covert Sterilization Program



http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/aug/08081407.html

[oneup]

Let's play the game of "find the agents".

[monkeyballs]

clearly dconrad is a shill

[oneup]

clearly dconrad is a shill

it seems so

[dconrad000]

...related...

National Security Study Memorandum 200

Henry Kissinger's 1974 Plan for
Food Control Genocide


http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html


...related...

...very important and excellent article...


Food and Depopulation: Rockefeller Family
The Rockefellers use coercive population control tactics and food as a weapon.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-rockefeller-family/



The purpose of this article is to give a brief outline of how the elites, and the Rockefellers in particular, are using food as a weapon.

Since the Rockefeller family came to power (especially after gaining a monopoly with Standard Oil) they have manipulated our government into ruining our financial system by way of the Federal Reserve, energy through oil dependency and food with GMOs (Genetically Engineered Organisms). The intention is to rob us blind and kill us. It’s time to wake up.

The official name of this program is Agenda 21 Sustainable Development.

It is the overarching blueprint for depopulation and total control over America and the rest of the world. There is no question that Americans are targeted for depopulation...

[dneif]

clearly dconrad is a shill

Yes, whenever his thread falls off the first page he bumps it with "related" nonsense and tries to convince people to spend energy watching his interviews or agreeing with his patently false fearmongering nonsense.

[dconrad000]

...just saw this at infowars...the 11 minute video linked in this story contains pertinant depopulative eugenics information...definitely well worth watching for anyone interested in the subject...


Lindsay Lohan Poisoned, Along with 300 Million Other Americans



http://www.infowars.com/lindsay-lohan-poisoned/

[dneif]

...just saw this at infowars...the 11 minute video linked in this story contains extremely important depopulative eugenics information...definitely well worth watching for anyone interested in the subject...


Lindsay Lohan Poisoned, Along with 300 Million Other Americans



http://www.infowars.com/lindsay-lohan-poisoned/

There is already a thread in this forum on this topic.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131890

As there really isn't any discussion pertaining to the post it seems you're just bumping the thread back to the first page.

Are you trying to get traffic to that thread to generate business for yourself?

[dconrad000]

...extremely important article...a must see for any interested in this topic...

MSNBC In Cover-Up Of Manifestly Provable Population Control Plan
Agenda to reduce global population by at least 80 per cent is not a "conspiracy theory," it's a publicly admitted goal of the elite.



http://www.infowars.com/msnbc-in-cover-up-of-manifestly-provable-population-control-plan/

[dneif]

If only we had some forum that covered topics such as Vaccinations, Medical Mafia, Big Pharma, and Bio-Warfare.

[dconrad000]

...related...

National Security Study Memorandum 200

Henry Kissinger's 1974 Plan for
Food Control Genocide


http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html




...related...

...very important and excellent article...


Food and Depopulation: Rockefeller Family
The Rockefellers use coercive population control tactics and food as a weapon.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-rockefeller-family/



The purpose of this article is to give a brief outline of how the elites, and the Rockefellers in particular, are using food as a weapon.

Since the Rockefeller family came to power (especially after gaining a monopoly with Standard Oil) they have manipulated our government into ruining our financial system by way of the Federal Reserve, energy through oil dependency and food with GMOs (Genetically Engineered Organisms). The intention is to rob us blind and kill us. It’s time to wake up.

The official name of this program is Agenda 21 Sustainable Development.

It is the overarching blueprint for depopulation and total control over America and the rest of the world. There is no question that Americans are targeted for depopulation...




...related...



Food and Depopulation: Monsanto's Monopoly
Our government is deeply complicit in depopulation through food control.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-monsantos-monopoly/





...Monsanto has a long history of lying, lobbying, bribing and pressuring government scientists and government officers in order to keep their monopoly in place.(14) Monsanto has used very dirty business practices to corner the market on seeds...

...it is undeniable that the our government is deeply complicit in depopulation through food control, especially the USDA’s patent on the Terminator Gene...

[dconrad000]

...posted this on someone else's thread a while back...has application here, as well...




...and that making the claims that governments are trying to poison us is preposterous... :rolleyes:







I can see how at first glance, such a notion would seem preposterous...

...unless one simply studies history...

...upon which it then quickly becomes undeniably evident -- that throughout history, the very most dangerous and murderous force that there ever has been towards mankind -- is government...continually, over generations... tending towards tyrannical control...and then ultimately out and out murdering of certain numbers of its own citizens.

In fact, in the small sampling of even our near-history -- the past century alone, or so -- approximately 180 million people have been murdered by their own governments...by the likes of Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot -- etc. ...and I trust the current leadership of America and Great Britain...and most any other nation -- no more than them.

It's just a matter of timing, as to when the real persons of power -- behind the scenes of our respective governments think that they might best be able to get away with it, again...to the degree that they would like to...

...and to a certain degree, by one measure -- they're already getting away with it -- when you simply consider the fact that since 1973 in America alone, the government combined with traditional medicine and certain parents -- for convenience sake -- have managed to get away with killing about 60 million unborn American babies (...and such is typical throughout the populations of other "scientifically-modernized" nations). That fact alone demonstrates that we live in very wicked and evil times...allowing, even causing "our own babies" -- collectively as nations -- to be slaughtered and thrown away like garbage.

Yes, government has proven, time and time again -- to be one of the most dangerous, murderous forces that there is. That is why the Constitutional Founding Fathers of the United States -- who understood such things...did their best to "bind the government with the chains of the constitution"...

...of course however, the American people have allowed themselves to be stripped of most all of their constitutional rights...foolishly...especially since the False-Flag-Terror-Event-of-9/11 (in the name of security) -- which was designed to do just that...and it was masterminded not by some men with long beards, living in caves in Afghanistan -- but by evil, crafty men -- controlling certain rogue elements within the US government itself...for their own evil purposes and designs...intent upon causing a downfall of America (in which they are rapidly succeeding) -- and bringing the entire world under tyrannical domination...an age-old-lust that has lingered in the hearts of countless evil men from the dawn of time (the history books are repleat with examples of that).

No, I cannot think of any force in the entire world -- natural, man-made -- or otherwise -- that is a force that has more potential for evil and destructive power -- than government.

...and since anarchy is not a good solution...that is why I would like to see, in my country -- the original constitutional principles that once made our country great -- and the republic -- restored...to bind that mighty, terrible...and dangerous force of government -- once again...by the "chains of the constitution"...which the Founding Fathers of America, did so wisely once establish.

[dneif]

Posted this in another thread, it applies here as well

[dconrad000]

...related...

...very important and excellent article...


Food and Depopulation: Rockefeller Family
The Rockefellers use coercive population control tactics and food as a weapon.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-rockefeller-family/

...related...



Food and Depopulation: Monsanto's Monopoly
Our government is deeply complicit in depopulation through food control.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-monsantos-monopoly/


Using food as a weapon to commit mass genocide is nothing new...one infamous example in our not-too-distant past:




Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule. As a result, an estimated 7,000,000 persons perished in this farming area, known as the breadbasket of Europe, with the people deprived of the food they had grown with their own hands...




http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

[dconrad000]

Food and Depopulation: Monsanto's Monopoly
Our government is deeply complicit in depopulation through food control.



http://www.infowars.com/food-and-depopulation-monsantos-monopoly/




...related...


Monsanto: The world's poster child for corporate manipulation and deceit


http://www.naturalnews.com/029325_Monsanto_deception.html

[dconrad000]

The same "ususal suspects" that are for profound population reduction, have typically been seen backing the man-made-global-warming-hoax and associated carbon-tax-scheme, as well.

I've been trying to locate an article I remember reading in the past 8 months or so -- that demonstrated how the political machinations related to the global warming hoax -- had already resulted in millions of additional starvation deaths in third-world countries -- as a result of the doubling in prices of basic commodoties -- and that this was one of many desired outcomes by the Elite -- that they had calculated would occur -- as a result of their man-made-global-warming-hoax and related action.

Do any of you remember reading such an article?

If I could have some help locating it -- it would be appreciated.

[dneif]

The same "ususal suspects" that are for profound population reduction, have typically been seen backing the man-made-global-warming-hoax and assoicated carbon-tax-scheme, as well.

I've been trying to locate an article I remember reading in the past 8 months or so -- that demonstrated how the political machinations related to the global warming hoax -- had already resulted in millions of additional starvation deaths in third-world countries -- as a result of the doubling in prices of basic commodoties -- and that this was one of many desired outcomes by the Elite -- that they had calculated would occur -- as a result of their man-made-global-warming-hoax and related action.

Do any of you remember reading such an article?

If I could have some help locating it -- it would be appreciated.
Hey can you write me a prescription for a box of wine?

[kblood]

It does seem suspicious to me that this guy is both researching climate changes, nuclear damage reduction and population reduction. It could all be related as I guess I stated earlier.

Btw. Fiend, do you have anything useful to write about this topic? That is advisors to people in power and at the same time is supporting the global warming hoax and population reduction amongst other dubious areas of research?

[resistance]

Yes, whenever his thread falls off the first page he bumps it with "related" nonsense and tries to convince people to spend energy watching his interviews or agreeing with his patently false fearmongering nonsense.

Ok dneif, as somebody looking in from a neutral perpsective. What exactly is this supposed patently false fearmongering nonsesnse? You've lost me on this one.

[dconrad000]

The same "ususal suspects" that are for profound population reduction, have typically been seen backing the man-made-global-warming-hoax and associated carbon-tax-scheme, as well.

I've been trying to locate an article I remember reading in the past 8 months or so -- that demonstrated how the political machinations related to the global warming hoax -- had already resulted in millions of additional starvation deaths in third-world countries -- as a result of the doubling in prices of basic commodoties -- and that this was one of many desired outcomes by the Elite -- that they had calculated would occur -- as a result of their man-made-global-warming-hoax and related action.

Do any of you remember reading such an article?

If I could have some help locating it -- it would be appreciated.


...still haven't been able to locate that specific article...but here is one that reveals who some of the Elite are that control the "Food Supply Strings":


Food Shortages Or Globalist Depopulation Agenda?



http://www.infowars.com/food-shortages-or-globalist-depopulation-agenda/



...interesting excerpt...




...The Windsors’ Global Food Cartel: Instrument for Starvation

Ten to twelve pivotal companies, assisted by another three dozen, run the world’s food supply. They are the key components of the Anglo-Dutch-Swiss food cartel, which is grouped around Britain’s House of Windsor. Led by the six leading grain companies—Cargill, Continental, Louis Dreyfus, Bunge and Born, André, and Archer Daniels Midland/Töpfer—the Windsor-led food and raw materials cartel has complete domination over world cereals and grains supplies, from wheat to corn and oats, from barley to sorghum and rye. But it also controls meat, dairy, edible oils and fats, fruits and vegetables, sugar, and all forms of spices.

Each year tens of millions die from the most elementary lack of their daily bread. This is the result of the work of the Windsor-led cartel. And, as the ongoing financial collapse wipes out bloated speculative financial paper, the oligarchy has moved into hoarding, increasing its food and raw materials holdings. It is prepared to apply a tourniquet to food production and export supplies, not only to poor nations, but to advanced sector nations as well.

The use of food as a weapon can be found at least four millennia ago in Babylon. Imperial Rome took this tack, as did Venice and various Venetian offshoots, including the Antwerp-centered, powerful Burgundian duchy, and the Dutch and British Levant companies, East India companies, and West India companies. Today, food warfare is...

[sillyhumans]

I really hope you've researched this topic before posting. It was upsetting to witness such immature behavior from somebody who purports to represent a field where research is key.

Everyone feel free to scrutinize the claims beyond the information he presents.

That "just think of the children" appeal to emotion is a primary tool employed by the pharm industry when they want to bypass scrutiny.

This and your previous post on this forum are horrible marketing gimmick to direct traffic to your interview thread.

I think the " d " in his name stands for Dennis , because he definately is not a doctor.

He has been a strong supporter of psuedoscience and superstition in many past " anti-vaccine" posts.

I wouldnt be suprised if he tried to convince the forums that when someone takes your picture they are trying to steal your soul .

[dconrad000]

I think the " d " in his name stands for Dennis , because he definately is not a doctor.

He has been a strong supporter of psuedoscience and superstition in many past " anti-vaccine" posts.

I wouldnt be suprised if he tried to convince the forums that when someone takes your picture they are trying to steal your soul .


It has been my observation from past "dealings" on the forum with Sillyhumans, that she is a constant apologist for Big Pharma -- which truly is a master at using pseudoscience and myth...as is John P. Holdren and his ilk, that would like to kill most of us off; keep the rest around as slaves; and make obscene profits in the process.

[dconrad000]

FDA exploits salmonella eggs recall to pursue food sterilization agenda



http://www.naturalnews.com/029539_salmonella_eggs.html

[dconrad000]

One Child Policy: The Case For Killing Junior


http://www.infowars.com/one-child-policy-the-case-for-killing-junior/

[dconrad000]

...Chinese newspaper reports say that those who refuse to be sterilised have seen their elderly mothers or fathers taken away and detained.

Hundreds of people in Puning are said to have been locked up.

Kate Allen, Director of Amnesty International UK, said: "It is appalling that the authorities are subjecting people to such an invasive procedure against their will.

"Reports that relatives are imprisoned as a means of pressurising couples into submitting to surgery are incredibly concerning.

"The Puning City authorities must condemn this practice immediately and ensure that others are not forcibly sterilised."

More than 1,300 people in the city have been held in local government buildings where they were given "lectures" on China's family planning regulations.

Huang Ruifeng is the father of three girls.

"Several days ago, a village official called me and asked me or my wife to return for the surgery," Huang told the local paper. "Otherwise they would take away my father."

He refused.

His father was later rounded up and detained by the authorities.

According to Puning rules, farmers are allowed to have a second child if the first child was a girl.


Make no mistake...Eugenicists running the world -- who are for profound population reduction, would love to implement this kind of policy, anywhere they thought they could get away with it.


China’s Population Control Program to Begin Sterilization


http://www.infowars.com/chinas-population-control-program-to-begin-sterilization/

[helloperator]

Won't somebody pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease think of the children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dconrad000]

...Chinese newspaper reports say that those who refuse to be sterilised have seen their elderly mothers or fathers taken away and detained.

Hundreds of people in Puning are said to have been locked up.

Kate Allen, Director of Amnesty International UK, said: "It is appalling that the authorities are subjecting people to such an invasive procedure against their will.

"Reports that relatives are imprisoned as a means of pressurising couples into submitting to surgery are incredibly concerning.

"The Puning City authorities must condemn this practice immediately and ensure that others are not forcibly sterilised."

More than 1,300 people in the city have been held in local government buildings where they were given "lectures" on China's family planning regulations.

Huang Ruifeng is the father of three girls.

"Several days ago, a village official called me and asked me or my wife to return for the surgery," Huang told the local paper. "Otherwise they would take away my father."

He refused.

His father was later rounded up and detained by the authorities.

According to Puning rules, farmers are allowed to have a second child if the first child was a girl.



Make no mistake...Eugenicists running the world -- who are for profound population reduction, would love to implement this kind of policy, anywhere they thought they could get away with it.


China’s Population Control Program to Begin Sterilization


http://www.infowars.com/chinas-population-control-program-to-begin-sterilization/



...related story...

Doctors sterilize Uzbek women by stealth
After months of trying Gulbahor Zavidova and her husband visited a doctor who told her she could never have another child because she had been sterilized.


http://www.infowars.com/doctors-sterilise-uzbek-women-by-stealth/[/quote]

[theoriginalmurph]

It has been my observation from past "dealings" on the forum with Sillyhumans, that she is a constant apologist for Big Pharma -- which truly is a master at using pseudoscience and myth...as is John P. Holdren and his ilk, that would like to kill most of us off; keep the rest around as slaves; and make obscene profits in the process.

The greater the population, the more political power there is. It's pretty simple, really. More people = more producers = more consumers = more wealth = more power. Think about that, and then ask, what the hell would motivate someone to believe they must cull away the population? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who would do just that if they had the chance, but why the elaborate conspiracy? Why not just do it quickly, and get it done? Besides, what the hell would the conspirators have to do once everyone else is gone? No more need for banks. No more need for government. That would drive the psychopaths even more crazy than they already are when there's one left to mind control, wouldn't it?

Ever think that maybe Alex Jones is just using a bit of sensationalism to scare people into buying gold from his advertisers?

[dconrad000]

The greater the population, the more political power there is. It's pretty simple, really. More people = more producers = more consumers = more wealth = more power. Think about that, and then ask, what the hell would motivate someone to believe they must cull away the population? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who would do just that if they had the chance, but why the elaborate conspiracy? Why not just do it quickly, and get it done? Besides, what the hell would the conspirators have to do once everyone else is gone? No more need for banks. No more need for government. That would drive the psychopaths even more crazy than they already are when there's one left to mind control, wouldn't it?

The way I see it...wealth is not an issue. The Elite running the world control the International Banking system, and can print themselves as much money as they want. Rather than 6 Billion people on the planet, they would rather see about 500 Million...a more managable number of slaves for them...and they'll ramp it up to doing it more quickly when the timing suits them.


Ever think that maybe Alex Jones is just using a bit of sensationalism to scare people into buying gold from his advertisers?

Actually, the way I see it...according to where the world is heading...it would be wise to convert a good portion of one's paper assets to tangibles -- but before gold -- I think it would be wise to make sure one first has about a 2-years-supply of food (you can't eat a gold bar, after all); and their home, land and vehicles paid for...then yes -- gold would be wise -- through a vendor of one's preference.






...some more thoughts about AJ and Infowars from earlier...


Point well taken, Kblood...always good to confirm and verify...

...but I do have some thoughts about Infowars...

I find them to be well researched with regards to the goings-on of the Elite running the world...and on many issues which I feel to have been very important...they have most often turned out to be accurate.

The news that comes from Infowars is extremely contrary to that which you will find in the main-stream news...and that is a good thing, since the main-stream news (Fox included) is the mouthpiece of the Elite running the world -- who want to kill most of us off -- keep the rest of us around as slaves -- and make obscene profits in the process.

Here is a little blast from the past, which many here should enjoy...Infowars attempting to warn the public about 9/11...and even prevent it from happening by having listeners flood the whitehouse and congress letting them know that the "jig was up"...of course that did not happen, because few would believe -- before it happened.

...anyway...here it is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ElXWJozEQ (2:57 Minutes)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ElXWJozEQ

[dconrad000]

World Bank Threatens “Drastic Steps Necessary” if Nations Refuse Population Reduction Implementation
A World Bank report suggests introducing “sterilization vans” and “camps.”



http://www.infowars.com/world-bank-threatens-drastic-steps-necessary-if-nations-refuse-population-reduction-implementation/

[dconrad000]

Fluoride is a Poison
The fluorides commonly added to public drinking water are chemical by-products of aluminium and phosphate fertilizer manufacturing.




http://www.thehealthvine.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43&Itemid=56




Water Fluoridation Chemicals such as Sodium Fluoride and Hydrofluorosilicic Acid are rated S6 and S7 POISONS and affect all bodily functions as they are systemic endocrine disruptors...

[dconrad000]

...a world-renowned expert on subject matters pertaining to this thread...and two very important presentations of his -- that anyone interested in the topic of this thread really should see...


Bio of Dr Stanley Monteith

Dr. Stanley Monteith graduated from the University of California Medical School in 1952, entered a four year residency program in Orthopedic surgery, and opened his medical practice in 1960. Two years later, he began studying the political and economic forces that control the world. He has traveled to other countries, interviewed national and international leaders, and lectured on several continents.

He has spent over 47 years researching the movement by the global elite to remove our national sovereignty and enslave the planet. He has written two books, including the highly recommended "Brotherhood of Darkness", which reveals the forces that rule the world and why many of our leaders are destroying our nation. Dr. Monteith currently does 5 hours of talk radio a day on three radio networks. For info, visit www.radioliberty.com.

Dr Stanley Monteith is one of the foremost and respected experts in the world -- of the secret workings of the elite men that wish to rule over us -- and the world.

The following two presentations of Dr Stan Monteith are highly recommended viewing -- to grasp the larger picture of what is going on in the world today...and why you and your family really are targeted by these evil men -- for harm -- for the furtherance of their own evil purposes.


Brotherhood of Darkness

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2866704516923817439&q=The+Brotherhood+of+Darkness



...also important...


None Dare Call It Genocide

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1498436403129149429&hl=en

[dconrad000]

...take note...that on the second video in the post immediately above, you get 30 seconds of black screen before it begins...just be patient -- the link does work.

[dconrad000]

Bill Gates Death Panels Tip of Iceberg
Paul Joseph Watson, Kurt Nimmo & Alex Jones | Gates in cahoots with the Rockefellers and the bioethics movement to deny health care to Americans.



http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-death-panels-tip-of-the-iceberg/

[dude111]

I thought this thread was either about Bill Gates or Obama (Which goes to many schools and tries to get control over young minds with his stupid speechs!)

[dconrad000]

A member of this forum who is also listener of the Stanley Monteith, M.D. nationally syndicated radio show sent Dr Monteith a link to an interview that was done of me in September of 2009, on the subject of vaccinations and eugenics. After viewing the interview, Dr Monteith contacted me and invited me to be a guest on his September 8th, 2010 program. We had a very important and lively discussion regarding the fraud and dangers of vaccines...and a plan of what we can actually do about it. He is a very well respected authority on this and other related subjects. You can see a biography of some of Dr Stanley Monteith's life and works below.

Here is a link to that portion of the September 8th program. To fast forward through the commercial messages, you can slide the bar in small increments to the right.

( http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/radio_lib/0908101.mp3 )

(Please be patient, as it will take a few minutes for the audio file to download. If the link doesn't open, copy/paste it into your browser window and click enter.)


http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/radio_lib/0908101.mp3

__________________________________________________ ________

...from a couple of posts higher in the thread...

Bio of Dr Stanley Monteith

Dr. Stanley Monteith graduated from the University of California Medical School in 1952, entered a four year residency program in Orthopedic surgery, and opened his medical practice in 1960. Two years later, he began studying the political and economic forces that control the world. He has traveled to other countries, interviewed national and international leaders, and lectured on several continents.

He has spent over 47 years researching the movement by the global elite to remove our national sovereignty and enslave the planet. He has written two books, including the highly recommended "Brotherhood of Darkness", which reveals the forces that rule the world and why many of our leaders are destroying our nation. Dr. Monteith currently does 5 hours of talk radio a day on three radio networks. For info, visit http://www.radioliberty.com.

Dr Stanley Monteith is one of the foremost and respected experts in the world -- of the secret workings of the elite men that wish to rule over us -- and the world.

The following two presentations of Dr Stan Monteith are highly recommended viewing -- to grasp the larger picture of what is going on in the world today...and why you and your family really are targeted by these evil men -- for harm -- for the furtherance of their own evil purposes.


Brotherhood of Darkness

( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2866704516923817439&q=The+Brotherhood+of+Darkness )



...also important...


None Dare Call It Genocide

( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1498436403129149429&hl=en )

(Be patient with this one, as there is black screen for 30 seconds before the video starts.)

[dconrad000]

...very important interview with Dr Sherri Tenpenny...dovetails with the discussion about vaccinations and eugenics that occurred on Dr Stanley Monteith's show in the post immediately above.


Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Flu Vaccines - What's Coming Through That Needle



Part One (14:47 Minutes)

( Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Flu Vaccines - What&#39;s Coming Through That Needle 1/3 - YouTube )



Part Two (12:53 Minutes)

( Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Flu Vaccines - What&#39;s Coming Through That Needle 2/3 - YouTube )



Part Three (9:03 Minutes)


( Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Flu Vaccines - What&#39;s Coming Through That Needle 3/3 - YouTube )

[dconrad000]

...certainly, the modern-day-secret-combination has gained control over food production and distribution...and they want you sick and dead...the same interests that control Big Pharma, control the food industry.



Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed
The grocery store, along with your kitchen sink, are two truly dangerous places in the world.



http://www.infowars.com/food-the-ultimate-secret-exposed/

[andyh]

Na hes correct this guy is bad news..

Obama has recently appointed John Holdren - Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.

Some things he has said .

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

Holdren was merely associated with a book published over 30 years ago with the Ehrlichs. He hasn't been much involved with it since. All that said...I still don't trust the guy :)

I'd rather concentrate on people who are espousing this population control crap right now though, the ones who are pushing it at this moment in time.
I think Holdren a distraction and a useful fall guy to take the rap for others who are actually pushing the agenda atm.

[dconrad000]

Holdren was merely associated with a book published over 30 years ago with the Ehrlichs. He hasn't been much involved with it since. All that said...I still don't trust the guy :)

I'd rather concentrate on people who are espousing this population control crap right now though, the ones who are pushing it at this moment in time.
I think Holdren a distraction and a useful fall guy to take the rap for others who are actually pushing the agenda atm.


I agree that it is important to be aware of them all, AndyH. You will probably appreciate the information given in Dr Stanley Monteith's presentations, "The Brotherhood of Darkness", and "None Dare Call It Genocide" (post #64).

I do however think it would be a mistake to discount John P Holdren's current influence. There is much evidence to suggest that he still holds to the same philosophies that he did 30 years ago...and in the interim he has held the postions of Head of Science and Technology for MIT; then for Harvard -- and now currently for the entire United States.

...but yes, I do think that you are right -- that we should be careful to keep an eye on all those evil men and forces that are for profound population reduction.

[dneif]

I thought this thread was either about Bill Gates or Obama (Which goes to many schools and tries to get control over young minds with his stupid speechs!)

No, it's "hey look at me!"

[dconrad000]

...certainly, the modern-day-secret-combination has gained control over food production and distribution...and they want you sick and dead...the same interests that control Big Pharma, control the food industry.



Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed
The grocery store, along with your kitchen sink, are two truly dangerous places in the world.



http://www.infowars.com/food-the-ultimate-secret-exposed/



Here's a typical example of how much your government including the Food and Drug Administration...and the big food companies that are controlled by the same interests that control Big Pharma -- cares about your health and well being:


Metal Filings In Your Freaking Cereal!



( Metal Filings In Your Freaking Cereal - YouTube ) (7:48 Minutes)

[dneif]

Here's a typical example of how much your government including the Food and Drug Administration...and the big food companies that are controlled by the same interests that control Big Pharma -- cares about your health and well being:


Metal Filings In Your Freaking Cereal!



( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahlawrQHeA ) (7:48 Minutes)

That's nothing. In las Vegas the main sewage treatment facility pumps the majority of the untreated waste a few miles upstream from where the municipal water supply pumps drinking water.

To make matters worse, the EPA plays a silly line in the sand game with the water district, increasing the acceptable amount of waste from rocket fuel in our water supply every time it's exceeded. This is a root cause of thyroid problems for everyone in southern Nevada.

But hey, health care is a great racket to get into as everyone is always getting sick, and most employers and pharmacies are giving out free flu shots.

Conrad, when you were young did your dentist do flouride treatment with a dental guard filled with flouride gel that you had to keep in for five minutes? Fun times.

[dconrad000]

...certainly, the modern-day-secret-combination has gained control over food production and distribution...and they want you sick and dead...the same interests that control Big Pharma, control the food industry.



Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed
The grocery store, along with your kitchen sink, are two truly dangerous places in the world.



http://www.infowars.com/food-the-ultimate-secret-exposed/



Here's a typical example of how much your government including the Food and Drug Administration...and the big food companies that are controlled by the same interests that control Big Pharma -- cares about your health and well being:


Metal Filings In Your Freaking Cereal!



( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahlawrQHeA ) (7:48 Minutes)



...related...


MERCURY Found in Thousands of Foods & Soda's Containing High Fructose Corn Syrup!



( MERCURY Found in Thousands of Foods & Soda&#39;s Containing High Fructose Corn Syrup! - YouTube ) (9:56 Minutes)

[dconrad000]

...reposting this with corrected link...

A member of this forum who is also listener of the Stanley Monteith, M.D. nationally syndicated radio show sent Dr Monteith a link to an interview that was done of me in September of 2009, on the subject of vaccinations and eugenics. After viewing the interview, Dr Monteith contacted me and invited me to be a guest on his September 8th, 2010 program. We had a very important and lively discussion regarding the fraud and dangers of vaccines...and a plan of what we can actually do about it. He is a very well respected authority on this and other related subjects. You can see a biography of some of Dr Stanley Monteith's life and works below.

Here is a link to that portion of the September 8th program. To fast forward through the commercial messages, you can slide the bar in small increments to the right.

( http://archives2010.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/sep10/RadioLiberty/0908101.mp3 )

(Please be patient, as it will take a few minutes for the audio file to download. If the link doesn't open, copy/paste it into your browser window and click enter.)


http://archives2010.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/sep10/RadioLiberty/0908101.mp3

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...from a couple of posts higher in the thread...

Bio of Dr Stanley Monteith

Dr. Stanley Monteith graduated from the University of California Medical School in 1952, entered a four year residency program in Orthopedic surgery, and opened his medical practice in 1960. Two years later, he began studying the political and economic forces that control the world. He has traveled to other countries, interviewed national and international leaders, and lectured on several continents.

He has spent over 47 years researching the movement by the global elite to remove our national sovereignty and enslave the planet. He has written two books, including the highly recommended "Brotherhood of Darkness", which reveals the forces that rule the world and why many of our leaders are destroying our nation. Dr. Monteith currently does 5 hours of talk radio a day on three radio networks. For info, visit http://www.radioliberty.com.

Dr Stanley Monteith is one of the foremost and respected experts in the world -- of the secret workings of the elite men that wish to rule over us -- and the world.

The following two presentations of Dr Stan Monteith are highly recommended viewing -- to grasp the larger picture of what is going on in the world today...and why you and your family really are targeted by these evil men -- for harm -- for the furtherance of their own evil purposes.


Brotherhood of Darkness

( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2866704516923817439&q=The+Brotherhood+of+Darkness )



...also important...


None Dare Call It Genocide

( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1498436403129149429&hl=en )

(Be patient with this one, as there is black screen for 30 seconds before the video starts.)