a few random comments (to all and M3)

[chester]

It seems that when someone attacks the credibility of another, then most likely that other has actually struck an inner cord of the attacker.

Anyone (and there are few) who have had the experience of rapid awakening usually goes through a brief period where they are "off a bit" so to speak. Whereas the common folk might see this as a reason to doubt, those who have shared a similar experience understand very well how its hard to land on your feet swiftly when reality is shaken to bits. In fact, that Icke had a few months there in the early 90s like that actually adds a great deal to his credibility.

What the new person who has graced this forum reveals (if this person is genuine) is that they are not afraid (necessarily) to actually open their mind and engage in open minded dialogue. I hope M3 will do this in time sans the need to attack.

Let me pass on a little personal experience. In 2002 I was handed the Biggest Secret. After going through shock and anger and then depression and ultimately apathy - because I have children... I rose above my fears and came back to earth. Giving up was no longer an option. I know from personal experience many elements of the hidden world revealed by Icke are in fact true. And because of Icke's ongoing release of material, I was finally able to connect most of the dots. Now why do I believe all this? Because it is now so easy to predict the future (the real movie, not the lie running parallel). I am not psychic (maybe just a wee bit intuitive at best) but I'm not stupid either. A reasonably perceptive mind can start to predict all these moves made by "the owners" once the game and gameplayers have been revealed. Thanks again to David and others.

M3... if you are in your lifestyle for truth (wasn't that one of the slogans?) then I suggest a steady, open mind assist you in your journeys in discovering truth(s) such as many of us here have. Ultimately if our search for truth(s) is founded by a common ideal that we all live together in a peaceful and brotherly manner, we'll be popping out the other side and giving hugs to each other.

I'm glad you are here... let's share experiences and thoughts on such.

[chester]

bump - one last chance for others to comment - forgive me but I was surprised that no one else shared their awakening experience nor was interested in my insinuation that we be as tolerant with M3 as we hope others will treat us...

[edelweiss pirate]

What a wonderful thread.... There really is no need for argument if we just accept the truth of everybody's individual experience... We may often need to modify our own observations slightly but that should be well within our abilities as flexible open minded folk...

I always say we live in one world populated by 6 billion universes... No wonder it's a pickle...

[eternal_spirit]

Rise above the storm theres sunshine up there:cool:

[karenmoore1979]

bump - one last chance for others to comment - forgive me but I was surprised that no one else shared their awakening experience nor was interested in my insinuation that we be as tolerant with M3 as we hope others will treat us...

I am not sure who/what "M3" is but I would certainly agree that there is no need to be intolerant of anyone on this forum. I have seen a few instances of people being rude/patronising to someone else just because they disagree with their viewpoint. By all means disagree with someone but there is no need for personal attacks ;)

[i am all i am]

If it is true that you are not your personality, but an infinite being, how can someone attack you personally.

Everyone has the inherent right to think, say and act as they please. If you take offense at the thoughts, words or actions of another and tell them to desist, then you are attempting to control them.

I believe everyone should be allowed to say whatever they desire on this forum and let them be seen by the words that they use.

If anyone desires to be abusive to me, it is not me that will suffer from the said abuse, for it is not my thoughts or words and therefore not my experience of that energy.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[eternal_spirit]

I am not sure who/what "M3" is but I would certainly agree that there is no need to be intolerant of anyone on this forum. I have seen a few instances of people being rude/patronising to someone else just because they disagree with their viewpoint. By all means disagree with someone but there is no need for personal attacks ;)
M3 is a username masonic3 is the full name, he's new o the Forum and says he's joining the masons:rolleyes:

[karenmoore1979]

M3 is a username masonic3 is the full name, he's new o the Forum and says he's joining the masons:rolleyes:

oh thanks for explaining :) sounds like an interesting person to be on the David Icke forums! Maybe we can learn something from him?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Smoke 'em if you got 'em..

[tru3]

If it is true that you are not your personality, but an infinite being, how can someone attack you personally.

Everyone has the inherent right to think, say and act as they please. If you take offense at the thoughts, words or actions of another and tell them to desist, then you are attempting to control them.

I believe everyone should be allowed to say whatever they desire on this forum and let them be seen by the words that they use.

If anyone desires to be abusive to me, it is not me that will suffer from the said abuse, for it is not my thoughts or words and therefore not my experience of that energy.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

someone whom i respect very much taught me a long time ago:

whatever comes out of my mouth is about me. whatever someone posts about another is just his/her own fear, frustration, impotence, whatever, projected on another. or, their own love, compassion, and equanimity.

we are wrestling with really mysterious, scary stuff on this forum. if we take all the passion/emotion out of the forum (not just the good and no bad-- it's neither good nor bad, just energy!), then we become diminished as Being.

plus, we lose all these WONDERFUL opportunities to practise forgiveness and compassion! ;)

personally, i think we could easily have a peer review process for continually abusive members and spam-meisters. just an idea.

[i am all i am]

G'day Tru3,

Freedom of expression is what we are here for as souls.

Who makes the judgements of what's right or wrong ?

For myself, I judge something as to whether I would think, say or do that which I am judging. It is not up to me to judge another unless or until I know their soul path, and only then to declare the truth to them that they are either following it or not.

False
Evidence
Appearing
Real
...is merely the individual misunderstanding the oneness of ALL THAT IS, for if all is one, why would you be afraid of yourself ?

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[chester]

thanks folks. I noticed that many of the comments were from what I call - the Higher Self.
Really excellent statement, "one world with 6 million universes!"

and yes, Masonic3... From the Higher Self perspective, regarding one of his posts that painted David in a sad light (the basic same things David's heard a million times and shows it really means not much if anything to him) - from that 'place' these comments mean nothing. From the more human, down to earth perspective, I was a little hurt by the comments because I have a great deal of empathy for David and his family and close frinds knowing what he has gone through and continues to go through. And so then I considered Masonic3... and I honestly felt love for this person and a bit of sadness that as I sense he is someone still locked up by a closed mind and maybe has a position in life where (even though they may now be starting to question things a bit) he also realizes what he may have to give up if he became completely honset with himself...

and then I saw a bit of David, but also Masonic3 in myself. I am speaking vaguely and maybe its because I am, on one hand, wanting to tell my own story but on the other hand, afraid as to what may happen to my current career (and possibly my freedom - at least what we have that can be called freedom) and what that may mean for my children who depend on me. I don't have the courage David has.

One time I wanted to start a self help group called "Reptilains Anonymous" and went so far as to investigate if I could. I found that I would not be able to use that name based on copyrights owned by Alcoholics Anonymous - this is true.

[tru3]

thanks folks. I noticed that many of the comments were from what I call - the Higher Self.
Really excellent statement, "one world with 6 million universes!"

and yes, Masonic3... From the Higher Self perspective, regarding one of his posts that painted David in a sad light (the basic same things David's heard a million times and shows it really means not much if anything to him) - from that 'place' these comments mean nothing. From the more human, down to earth perspective, I was a little hurt by the comments because I have a great deal of empathy for David and his family and close frinds knowing what he has gone through and continues to go through. And so then I considered Masonic3... and I honestly felt love for this person and a bit of sadness that as I sense he is someone still locked up by a closed mind and maybe has a position in life where (even though they may now be starting to question things a bit) he also realizes what he may have to give up if he became completely honset with himself...

and then I saw a bit of David, but also Masonic3 in myself. I am speaking vaguely and maybe its because I am, on one hand, wanting to tell my own story but on the other hand, afraid as to what may happen to my current career (and possibly my freedom - at least what we have that can be called freedom) and what that may mean for my children who depend on me. I don't have the courage David has.

One time I wanted to start a self help group called "Reptilains Anonymous" and went so far as to investigate if I could. I found that I would not be able to use that name based on copyrights owned by Alcoholics Anonymous - this is true.

lol i like that! i thought about starting something like humans anonymous a while back. :)

[chester]

Yes... I wonder which makes better sense, Reptialians Anonymous where the humans go to the secondary group (like Alanon is for spouses and loved ones of an alcoholic - all meant to help the spouse understand the alcoholic and in fact better understand themselves) , or Humans Anonymous where the Reptialians go to the secondary group.. And since - if David is on the right track, we may all have a bit of this reptialian thing (some much more than others) - we all have to decide on our own if we are in fact human or reptilian or both to some extent, which group is more appropriate?

funny stuff huh? David has mentioned he has encountered cases where the illuminati participant has reformed and also spilled some of the beans.

I have a friend who calls them the "Illuminutty" and he was pretty high up. Each time he says that we both bust out laughing.

[tru3]

Yes... I wonder which makes better sense, Reptialians Anonymous where the humans go to the secondary group (like Alanon is for spouses and loved ones of an alcoholic - all meant to help the spouse understand the alcoholic and in fact better understand themselves) , or Humans Anonymous where the Reptialians go to the secondary group..

lmao :D :D :D

genius, chester! i think you're onto something.

many people seem to think that in 2012, the galactic council is going to come along and sprinkle stardust across gooey marshmallow skies. personally i doubt it.

we may indeed have to look our "shadow" in the eye. hold that thought!