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societyisthematrix
26-02-2007, 04:39 AM
I watched the movie "Braveheart" last night. The king decreed that nobles would have the "right" to have sex with any woman who got married on her wedding night. Most of the people went along with it. I guess they were thinking, if the king says rape is ok, it's ok.

Fast forward to today. King Dumbya says that torture is ok. He goes to the trouble of getting it legalized by the rubber stamp congress (it's just a formality that kings of old didn't have to bother with), so I guess most Americans would say that torture is ok now.

Humans are evil, little has changed. If the government says something is ok, no matter how immoral it is, most of the people will nod and agree that's it's ok. Going along with evil makes you evil too!

roxanna
26-02-2007, 04:50 AM
It is sick. People think and assume the worst when face to face. And yes when a government says something with media back, of course, to push that then people dont even stop to think. What is said is a fact. Very sad state of affairs we are all in now days. People are so mistrustful of their fellows yes follow the media blindly. Ive tears in my eyes over it.

tru3
26-02-2007, 04:51 AM
I watched the movie "Braveheart" last night. The king decreed that nobles would have the "right" to have sex with any woman who got married on her wedding night. Most of the people went along with it. I guess they were thinking, if the king says rape is ok, it's ok.

Fast forward to today. King Dumbya says that torture is ok. He goes to the trouble of getting it legalized by the rubber stamp congress (it's just a formality that kings of old didn't have to bother with), so I guess most Americans would say that torture is ok now.

Humans are evil, little has changed. If the government says something is ok, no matter how immoral it is, most of the people will nod and agree that's it's ok. Going along with evil makes you evil too!

i respectfully disagree. humans have a weakness of deferring to authority.

is king dumbya doing the torturing? no, we have kids fresh out of bootcamp who have been broken down. essentially an alter has been created in every single kid who has been through basic. we have a volunteer army in the u.s.; these young people signed up because of programming by their parents, their schools, the media, the cartels, and a misplaced sense of wanting to "do" something that comes along with being young.

but evil? no. scared? yes.

roxanna
26-02-2007, 04:53 AM
yes fear rules this in one form or the other. i agree.

tonto o_reilly
26-02-2007, 05:39 AM
I think more to the point, humans are designed to be easily programmable.

TO

tru3
26-02-2007, 05:46 AM
I think more to the point, humans are designed to be easily programmable.

TO

how so?

tonto o_reilly
26-02-2007, 05:52 AM
IMO via our DNA. we were dicked with, disconnected and I guess why we are all here searching for something?

We are just walking biological computers.
There are those who know how to trigger the required responses.To serve an agenda.

3 a : to insert a program for (a particular action) into or as if into a mechanism b : to control by or as if by a program c (1) : to code in an organism's program (2) : to provide with a biological program <cells programmed to synthesize hemoglobin>
4 : to predetermine the thinking, behavior, or operations of as if by computer
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/programmable

This is I feel how we have been manipulated and controlled. Not new info I wouldn't have thought.
perhaps a topic for another thread......

tru3
26-02-2007, 07:37 AM
IMO via our DNA. we were dicked with, disconnected and I guess why we are all here searching for something?

We are just walking biological computers.
There are those who know how to trigger the required responses.To serve an agenda.

3 a : to insert a program for (a particular action) into or as if into a mechanism b : to control by or as if by a program c (1) : to code in an organism's program (2) : to provide with a biological program <cells programmed to synthesize hemoglobin>
4 : to predetermine the thinking, behavior, or operations of as if by computer
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/programmable

This is I feel how we have been manipulated and controlled. Not new info I wouldn't have thought.
perhaps a topic for another thread......

i have my own theories about all this, i was just curious as to yours. See the number 23 movie thread.

i basically agree with you. the question is: what can we "do", now that we're aware? Actually, it's more of a question of what can we "be", but that's just my opinion.

That topic deserves a whole new thread, perhaps even a whole new section on the forum: positive vibes, where we stop focusing on the problems and explore new possibilities and options.

who's game? :)

thirdwave
26-02-2007, 11:35 AM
its the same as any problem... you have to see what the problem is and then the reasons for the problem become much more clear and it becomes harder for these problems to manipulate you...

ignore the problems and you are as good as surrendering to them and letting them do what they want with you...


IMO the way society is run its impossible for true freedom to be found ...there is not enough ethics, the reason being that the govenment do allot to make sure that people's ethics are very poor, picking out week and strong points to manipulate this...

like a animal being tested in a lab.


as freaky as it sounds in order for true freedom to come the whole structure has to fall down... we can already see the structure does not work and that it is not designed to cater for the whole planet... people are dieing because there is no food as we speak.... yet we chuck food out of the fridge for going off...

in Africa innocents are slaughtered and there are places every bit as bad as places in WW2, yet its not viewed as a problem...

how can you possibly find harmony with a structure like this?

We have been ripped away from our natural way of life and from doing the things we find natural to us and we are pushed into a system where we just become apart of a system that is designed for the benefit of others... we THINK we are better off because we have more medicine.... so on.... but we only need it because we are all so stressed out from the system we get ill....

I think every illness and negative this has come from where the system has beeing imposing its self... and this goes way way back...

on top of that, we are designed to die....and its not the end of the world and not the end of our being.., certainly not worth turning us all into robots to prolong our natural life cycle and turn us into meat robots...

cycle of eternity
26-02-2007, 12:09 PM
i don't think humans are evil naturally, because if that was every child would be.
it's the indoctrination process through time that does this to people.
we all have the capability to be "evil", the positive along with the negative
is there in us. it's up to us to choose.

the reason why nothing has changed is because people are ignorant, hypocritical
and scared of a mirror. they don't want to see what really is and instead they
pull stuff out of their ass, call it their reality, hide in a box and hope it all disappears.
that's why you got all of these brainwashed religious foke claiming jesus is coming back soon.
JESUS ISN'T COMING BACK! (nor really existed imo, besides being a extraterrestrial maybe).

so disagree. it's going to take everyone to truly make this planet a paradise of love
and infinite possibilities.

deca
26-02-2007, 12:32 PM
to many people think money power will bring them happeness and freedom.
why whant thease c*#ts leave happy people alone with there simple way of life
fucking goto sell us shit and tax us to fuck.

jimijams
26-02-2007, 12:50 PM
I watched the movie "Braveheart" last night. The king decreed that nobles would have the "right" to have sex with any woman who got married on her wedding night. Most of the people went along with it. I guess they were thinking, if the king says rape is ok, it's ok.

Fast forward to today. King Dumbya says that torture is ok. He goes to the trouble of getting it legalized by the rubber stamp congress (it's just a formality that kings of old didn't have to bother with), so I guess most Americans would say that torture is ok now.

Humans are evil, little has changed. If the government says something is ok, no matter how immoral it is, most of the people will nod and agree that's it's ok. Going along with evil makes you evil too!
I don't know any evil humans personally so I had to vote no.

limelady
26-02-2007, 01:06 PM
I don't know any evil humans personally so I had to vote no.

I voted "no" for the same reason. Having said that, on three separate occasions in my life I have come face to face with what can only be descrivbed as pure evil, but on each occasion it was obvious to me what I was witnessing was not human in the sense we understand it.

thirdwave
26-02-2007, 02:03 PM
i don't think humans are evil naturally, because if that was every child would be.
it's the indoctrination process through time that does this to people.
we all have the capability to be "evil", the positive along with the negative
is there in us. it's up to us to choose.

the reason why nothing has changed is because people are ignorant, hypocritical
and scared of a mirror. they don't want to see what really is and instead they
pull stuff out of their ass, call it their reality, hide in a box and hope it all disappears.
that's why you got all of these brainwashed religious foke claiming jesus is coming back soon.
JESUS ISN'T COMING BACK! (nor really existed imo, besides being a extraterrestrial maybe).

so disagree. it's going to take everyone to truly make this planet a paradise of love
and infinite possibilities.



IMO Jesus is a miss understood symbol from YEARS back and the crucification and bible thing just represents what happened to many preachers trying to spread the word of self empowerment and peace back then who were dealt with by the same powers that created 9/11, the true feeders of evil..

the symbol of a man hanging dead on a cross does not come across as peaceful to me and kneeling in front of it feels more like kneeling in front of the people people who done it rather than the man him self... it comes across as a fear thing to me.... "kneel in fear of what happened to those who try to escape the matrix"

the only thing is, on their part they have been containing it for to long and wont be able to do it any longer...


"Jesus" was the people and "Jesus" is coming back as the people again...

as a contentiousness.

i think evil is just people lost... as an evil person might do something thats selfish and greedy, but if he/she knew that it was not REALLY in his/her best interests then they would not do it.. because they are so lost to this understanding then sometimes being evil and selfish makes sence.

deca
26-02-2007, 02:22 PM
ya we are all shown images at a young age of the crucifixion and how he die for our sins....Its our fault we are guilty how can we let a helpless baby born in a barn grow up and be nailed to a cross...mind control of the masses before tv and mkultra

tru3
26-02-2007, 02:46 PM
its the same as any problem... you have to see what the problem is and then the reasons for the problem become much more clear and it becomes harder for these problems to manipulate you...

ignore the problems and you are as good as surrendering to them and letting them do what they want with you...


IMO the way society is run its impossible for true freedom to be found ...there is not enough ethics, the reason being that the govenment do allot to make sure that people's ethics are very poor, picking out week and strong points to manipulate this...

like a animal being tested in a lab.


as freaky as it sounds in order for true freedom to come the whole structure has to fall down... we can already see the structure does not work and that it is not designed to cater for the whole planet... people are dieing because there is no food as we speak.... yet we chuck food out of the fridge for going off...

in Africa innocents are slaughtered and there are places every bit as bad as places in WW2, yet its not viewed as a problem...

how can you possibly find harmony with a structure like this?

We have been ripped away from our natural way of life and from doing the things we find natural to us and we are pushed into a system where we just become apart of a system that is designed for the benefit of others... we THINK we are better off because we have more medicine.... so on.... but we only need it because we are all so stressed out from the system we get ill....

I think every illness and negative this has come from where the system has beeing imposing its self... and this goes way way back...

on top of that, we are designed to die....and its not the end of the world and not the end of our being.., certainly not worth turning us all into robots to prolong our natural life cycle and turn us into meat robots...

I agree; we're not turning into meat robots, i don't think; we're being led to believe we're meat robots.

an elephant can be conditioned to be tethered by a thin strand of rope. It starts with heavy chains, then gradually the rope is introduced.

there can be no freedom without awareness of enslavement. most people have longer memories than elephants. they never forget, nor forgive.

I really like what Icke says: we are multidimensional being, so we have to be suppressed in multiple ways in order to halt the evolution of Consciousness. That's what's going on: a desperate attempt on the part of the i. to stay ahead of the curve. News flash, guys: there are eleven holes in the dyke, and you only have ten fingers! :D good news for the rest of us!