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rokk1109
29-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Hello! I've been a long time reader of Icke's and a long time reader of this forum. This is my first post here and hopefully, I can put something constructive on the boards.

I am going to write about "The Secret", other motivatonal books in U.S. history and attempt to tie in the (cult)ral phenomina with the Illuminati. I will supply partial evidence to suggest this hypothesis, I will leave the rest of the reaserch for you to follow and come to your own concluion: Just as I have.

Let's start off with the most recent mass mind control project: "The Secret"
"The Secret" is a mind control plot to get the masses to just sit back and think everything is ok and not do anything about the state of affairs around them.
It's easy to control people who are just thinking about good things that are going to happen/come to them, but take no action to acheive those results. "If I think hard enough, I can get what I want and not have to work for anything."
In other words, create "Sheeple".

I was in Brazil a couple months ago with family and even they were talking about "The Secret." The common poverty stricken guy on the street knew about it. He is there applying the secret and still in shambles!

The common solution to the guy in poverty "The Secret" proponets will tell you are; "He's not applying the secret right" or "He's not beliving in what he wants as if he actually has it!" What utter nonsense! Homeless and broke in a third world county, I am sure he wants to get out of that situation badly enough.

If I remember correctly, Tony Robbins (Illuminati) says roughly the same thing "The Secret" says about achieving whatever you want in life. I will get back to him in a moment.

This cultral phenomina "The Secret" (if we can really call it that, I would call it illuminati marketing) has been advocated by Oprah (Illuminist) Larry King (Freemason) and lots of others in the pyramid.

One last thing about "The secret". "The Secret" movie was produced/distributed partly by PARAMOUNT (Well known illuminati company) and Prime Time Productions (Giant network in Australia). Hopefully we all know about giant network corporations being controlled too!

Now, let's move on to Tony Robbins and others in this giant mind control project.

We already know about Hillary Clinton's occult practices of talking to spirits such as the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt and her consultations with wizards, witches and medicine men. Let it be noted that Bill Clinton is also involved in the occult, and according to the Wall Street Journal, the ex-President had a visit from his friend Anthony Robbins at Camp David when Slick Willy was still in office. Robbins teaches and has taught hundreds of high ranking business men (illuminists) to chant mantras and do firewalking across hot coals to the beating of drums. This is nothing other than the worshipping of Moloch as described by the bible. (Deut. 18:10). Tony basically teaches Magick. Why would the illumanti make someone famous if that person wasn't part of the "Great work?" We can usually tell who someone is by their friends. Do you remember the old saying "Birds of a feather flock together?"

Names that publicly support Tony’s work are Donald Trump, Oprah, Michael Douglas, Andre Agassi, Quincy Jones 3 presidents(Clinton, Bush Sr. Bush Jr.) Nelson Mandella and even Princess Diana.

Napoleon Hill(illuminist)...this first U.S. modern motivational speaker. Because of him we have all the offshoots of positive thinking authors. He was well known friend of Andre Carnegie and William Clement(both Illuminists) Here is a brief timeline on his career:

1908
Andrew Carnegie induced him to organize the world's first philosophy of personal achievement.

1933-36
Presidential Advisor to President Franklin D. Roosevelt

1942
"Mental Dynamite" study course in 17 volumes program discontinued with advent of World War II

1952 -62
Associated with W. Clement Stone of Combined Insurance Co. of America. Taught his Philosophy of Personal Achievement. Lectures on "Science of Success."

And now he has a foundation that is funded by Aron Corp.(formerlly Combined Insurance Co. of America...2billion dollars in revenue last year) and the Cargengie foundation.

I hope that shed a little light on the way the illumanti use pop culter to manipulate us. It feels like this part of mind control(motivational speaking/thinking) is just the tip of the iceberg. I am confident that if I looked deeper, there would be more to be found.

Thanks!

eternal_spirit
29-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Good post

gorgeousbutterfly
30-10-2007, 02:16 AM
You're right about the secret, but you now what people aren't buying it. i don't know anybody that believes in this B.S.

mad as a cat
30-10-2007, 05:12 AM
I do!:p


(Well, not all of it.......I pick and choose - like most things in life).;)

boots
30-10-2007, 06:06 AM
Good first post rokk1109 always thought The Secret was to commercial. Only the gist of it remains true that we create our own reality

montag
30-10-2007, 06:54 AM
You're right about the secret, but you now what people aren't buying it. i don't know anybody that believes in this B.S.
It's one of the biggest selling books of all time, someone must be buying it..

gorgeousbutterfly
30-10-2007, 06:57 AM
It's one of the biggest selling books of all time, someone must be buying it..

oh yes. i meant buying the idea. :D obviously its selling but i noticed the reviews on amazon it only got a 3 star and like i said i don't know anybody that agrees with it even the sheepie.

alrick888
30-10-2007, 12:43 PM
You're right about the secret, but you now what people aren't buying it. i don't know anybody that believes in this B.S.

:eek:

Bad, bad butterfly! Did you wash your mouth after saying that?

bigus_dickus
30-10-2007, 01:01 PM
"The Secret" is a mind control plot to get the masses to just sit back and think everything is ok and not do anything about the state of affairs around them.

why do you think that this is its purpose?

let's suppose that this is what it does. what do we have as an opposite? the news reports? the political and economical scandals? reality tv? hollywood? do all of the above transmit the correct information in your view, which gets the masses NOT sit back and think that everything is OK, but be very very worried about their present and future?

so this means that if you were in control of stuff, you would never allow movies like the "secret" be published, you would want the same old fear mongering stuff that you know and love. correct?

and if you have watched "the secret", it does not say that people should just sit and wait and do nothing. action is a very basic principle of "the secret". so where did this idea of yours come from and why?

It's easy to control people who are just thinking about good things that are going to happen/come to them, but take no action to acheive those results. "If I think hard enough, I can get what I want and not have to work for anything."
In other words, create "Sheeple".

can you elaborate on this? how exactly is it easy to control people who think like that? and why? about the "no action" as i pointed out above, this is wrong, just watch it again all of it.

what are people right now that are going to turn to "sheeple"? do you mean that every human is currently awake and aware and in danger to be hypnotized and sheepleized by this movie? and why?

and what is an "illuminist"?

turquoisefyre
30-10-2007, 01:03 PM
yes, good post rokk1109.

i've started reading "motivational" or "personal development books" since i was 14,(not so much lately though).

i think that if i read a book like these i've come to realise there must be some kind of message in for me, kind of like finding pieces to the puzzle.

it's best not to make one certain book or course you religion, so to speak.

rokk1109
30-10-2007, 09:50 PM
why do you think that this is its purpose?
Well, the purpose is to manipulate the masses. Why? Well, it's much easier for the illuminati to control someone who practices controlling him/herself. Let me give you an example. Do you remember the saying, "Practice makes perfect?" When you do something new, your brain forms a new neural connection. As you practice this new skill, wether mental/physical, your brain will reinforce this single neural connection by adding more connections branching out from the original. In this way, that single connection will grow and grow and grow; until that connection is very strong and you don't even have to think about that new skill anymore. That skill will be second nature to you.

Now let's apply that to the process of self-hypnosis, auto suggestion, the secret; any skill that let's you become more suseptible to suggestion or that let's you think everything is fine. If you apply what you learn, you will naturally, get better at it. However, if someone were to know what you were doing, they could also do the same things that you do to control yourself, to control you. The neural pathways are strong and since you don't even have to think about your skill(suggestibility in this case), you will not recognize when someone is trying to control/manipulate you.

let's suppose that this is what it does. what do we have as an opposite? the news reports? the political and economical scandals? reality tv? hollywood? do all of the above transmit the correct information in your view, which gets the masses NOT sit back and think that everything is OK, but be very very worried about their present and future?
so this means that if you were in control of stuff, you would never allow movies like the "secret" be published, you would want the same old fear mongering stuff that you know and love. correct?
We have to remember, the illuminati are attacking on many different levels. For the people that are not into the self-help genre, ("The Secret"/autosuggestion/self-hypnosis/self-help books) the illuminati attack with all of the above that you menchoned: meaning fear mongering etc.
For the people that are looking for alternate ways of explaining reality, this is how we are attacked. Might I suggest reading the "Protocols of elder zion"
To see how we are attacked on many levels.

and if you have watched "the secret", it does not say that people should just sit and wait and do nothing. action is a very basic principle of "the secret". so where did this idea of yours come from and why?
No it doesn't say sit and wait and do nothing. The movie does tell you to use "The Law of Attraction." Now this can be interpreted in many different ways. To someone with no experience in the law of attraction, this may mean, " Think hard..Think hard.. Think harder, and you will get what you want." Or alternativly just think about what you want and it will AUTOMATICALLY come to you.

can you elaborate on this? how exactly is it easy to control people who think like that? and why? about the "no action" as i pointed out above, this is wrong, just watch it again all of it.
See the first point I made with this post.

what are people right now that are going to turn to "sheeple"? do you mean that every human is currently awake and aware and in danger to be hypnotized and sheepleized by this movie? and why?
Let me elaborate on the word "Sheeple." What is a sheeple? Well the word sheeple is derived from the words "Sheep" and "People." Sheep are easy to control; put them in a pin, use a dog to herd them to get them where you want to go. People, if left to themselves with no manipulation/programing, aren't. Sheeple represent the current state of humanity on this level of reality. Most of them will do as they are told without any resistence. If there is resistence, they will be given another option to do something, but they are still in the sheep pin.
Now in regard to people turning into sheeple, most are already there. There is no such thing as turning automatically into sheeple ie. light switch turning on/off, sheeple are bred by society, manipulated by their peers/colleges go with the flow and don't stir the pot.
Here is an example. Look at professional entertainers. They do the same act everyday, and get the same reactions from their audiences. When a professional entertainer gets someone who "breaks away from the flock", they will usually have a response that has been tested over many years to get someone back with the group. I only know this because I work as an entertainer in Las Vegas and have applied the abovemenchoned many times to keep people from heckling/self thinking about my act. If you are curious as to what I do, I work as a magician. I am required to keep people going with the flow of my set, otherwise the magic is lost: people begin thinking about my past tricks and how they work. If their attention is on what I am currently doing, then that won't happen until after the show. Usually, there has been so much information given to the audience, that they will not remember the exact process on how the trick was performed.

and what is an "illuminist"?
An "Illuminist" is the singular form of Illuminati. Meaning someone who was inducted to the illuminati group.

I hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

asentinel
31-10-2007, 08:20 AM
I agree, I found it gave me a sickly feeling in my stomach. Manifest is a word about majic/magik. They have appropriated some quantum physics and mixed it all up with greed and magical thinking. As I said before a Balm for the Broken, a Lullaby for the Lazy. Always look at the outcome, and who that outcome serves.

If you have not manifested, you are not doing it right, or you don't think you deserve to, your Karma Babe!! Just feel guilty cos you are a failure. Then you won't be able to do it cos you don't have good self esteem!! If you think/believe you are failure you will be. Anyone dizzy yet, I am! A major mind fuck!

It makes people think they have a measure of hope and control over their lives, which they do not presently and things are looking bleaker by the moment.

For those thinking this is NOT Illuminati, think about the concept of "Good Cop/Bad Cop".

Even the entertainers or entrepreneurs, philanthropes who seem to be critical of the system, which ultimately they are benefiting from, and are made very comfortable by.

If everyone was able to manifest what they need, there would be no need for charity.

Don't send any money, just credit card numbers....

alrick888
31-10-2007, 12:22 PM
If you feel bad and you think it can't get worse the one thing that can make you feel even worse is when you open a pricey book by some internet zillionaire and they say: "by the way, the way you feel, you created that yourself!"

Oh yeah, how?

I can't remember praying on my bare knees to our sweet lord in heaven before I went to bed last night saying " Please, God, make me feel depressed in the morning. Make me feel so depressed I can't get even get up".

But that was what I felt like, and I don't remember that particular prayer, no sir!

de_shit
01-11-2007, 12:07 AM
I tried to watch The Secret but after I learned what it was, my bullshit detector went off and I became bored. It doesn't work, the only thing that does work is my powers. Intuition but on a higher level. There are days where I "fool around" with it. One day I was like "ok wheres a hot chick thats single?" and I was told to make a left. I did, then make another left and I did. Down the road I saw 3 people, a hot chick and 2 dudes. When a chick is with 2 dudes you know shes not with one of them, and sure enough shes looking at me giving me the eye and stuff. I felt stupid as hell when I rode by. When I'm "fooling around with the power" it seems to work "better" than if I just try to use it at will.

You should not think for one second that self help books such as The Secret are all bad. They try to help people that are in shitty situations. What have you done to help people in shitty situations? Post on this forum and go around being a free thinker yet not tell anybody about the shit you know because you'll be ridiculed? Indeed, such is the case, and you haven't done a thing (for some but not all of you). Ive told people about the shit I know, I get ridiculed, I get left out, Ive always been left out, I am over and above it all.

David Ickes books are mind control because of how he says things. He says "I KNOW these things to be true and if you don't want to believe them to be true, thats fine with me". That says that "I'm right, you're wrong, because I know whats right and you believe what in my opinion, is wrong". Thats mind control there. Yes I'm pointing out an Icke fuck-up. Ban me and suck my dick, I don't care. But I know in my heart that the things Icke says are true. Ickes books are motivational. HIGHLY motivational. They pulled my ass out of a depression easily and help me revive myself every time I'm down.

Motivational books are SUPPOSED TO BE MIND CONTROL. They try to control your mind to think POSITIVE. Thats better than negative thinking right? Yes, and no. Its a polarity, but its not negative. I am Oneness, in the middle of positive and negative. I do bad things, I do good things. Last night I put eggs in peoples gas tanks so their cars will stop working one day and they'll have to buy a new one. Yes I went out on mischief night. I also toilet papered houses and trees with my friend and smashed 60 eggs on peoples shit. I love fun things, and Oneness told me I wouldn't get in trouble so I need not fear. But I do good as well. I help my friend with his problems, I tell people about the conspiracy without feeling bad about the outcome, because they ALWAYS deny it, just like Icke said they would. I offer help to anyone that requires it and I'm usually a "nice" (aka not a "mean") person. Ive typed enough dudes, I'm out.

carlg1212
04-11-2007, 02:50 PM
I think "The Secret" is right...there's nothing wrong with positive thinking.

But I also think rokk is right: you have to have action to expect change.