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mountain
29-10-2007, 08:14 PM
Do not know if this info has ever been posted here, but here goes....
Also check out Mary Croft's free book, there's a link in the text.

You were born a living soul with flesh and blood, with the responsibility to respect other life and treat your fellow man with love and kindness, and with a life-spirit provided by the Creator. Your unalienable rights are for life, liberty and property, and to respect those rights of other human beings on this planet, our home.

In an attempt to create a safe society, men elected Governments to protect and uphold your unalienable rights and your responsibilities to the Creator and your fellow man. After a while, Governments became corrupt and now we have to ask: How could Governments and other "regulatory bodies" possibly make you follow their rules and be subservient to them since your true allegiance is to your Creator? How can you serve two masters - your creator and your Government? The answer is that you cannot server two masters, therefore the Government had to create a system that tricks you into thinking you must serve them, where in fact, Governments must serve us, the people.

One of the ways Governments and other regulators have tricked you into thinking you must follow their rules, is to create for themselves an "artificial-person / corporation" who is not you, but whom the Government has fooled you into thinking is you (See Natural vs. Artificial and Trick #4). But, so as not to violate your fundamental rights, they also have provide recognition in law for another legal entity called a "natural-person" (simply meaning a human-being in the law) with which most of your fundamental rights are still intact. So when you interact with the law, you may be represented as an artificial or natural person - you choose.

This concept of an "artificial-person", a legally obligated entity, that appears to be you, but in fact is not you, is a little difficult to grasp at first, but if you follow through this site, you will understand.

Once the Government creates an "artificial-person" that simulates you (i.e. appears to be the same as you from your point of view), but is actually a contrivance of government laws and regulations -- then they've got you, so to speak. And if you fill out paperwork and sign documents as if you were this artificial-person (create contracts), then they can make you totally subservient to all their rules and regulations:

Make you believe you are obligated to pay taxes,
Make you believe that you have to obtain a driver's licence,
Make you believe that you have to work as an Employee.
This site will explain to you the difference between your human self, man's current representation of the living-soul as you were born to be, your natural-person (the human-being in law), and the legal entity that appears to be you (the corporation / artificial-person). Although all issues discussed here are fully applicable to the laws of Canada, and many of them are also applicable to British Laws and U.S. laws, it is not suggested that all information in this site pertains verbatim to British or U.S. laws.

Another excellent summary of how the "illusion" works, and how to deal with it, is covered in Mary Croft's free book. Her book is recommended reading.

Armed with the information freely available in this site, all British and American visitors are challenged to search their own laws and see how much of the data provided here applies to them in their country -- as well as all other western nations. Only by searching out the truth of the laws and your original rights and freedoms for yourselves, will you be empowered to protect your natural-person.

For the USA, here is an excellent web-site that explains the cover-up of the true tax liability in the USA. Also, here is another web site that discusses Slavery in the USA. Just released is the Google Video of Ed Brown's standoff against the IRS.

The US Federal Income Tax Officially Died on Tuesday March 27, 2007 at 13:53:58 Pacific Daylight Time.

Thought for Canadians: Wouldn't it be a lot easier, for everyone, if the Canadian Government just followed the law instead of trying circumvent the law an an apparent attempt to hide the truth, about certain issues (such as native genocide, war support for weapons of mass destruction, true tax liability, North American Union, worthlessness of paper currency), from the Canadian people? The fastest way to lose the respect of your followers is to lie to them. The same applies with your spouse.

"They must find it difficult ...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."
- Gerald Massey
Food for Thought:

"For those with their eyes shut, no explanation will suffice;
For those with their eyes open, no explanation is necessary."
"Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,"
(Preamble - Universal Declaration of Human Rights)
http://www.natural-person.ca/

erikneo
29-10-2007, 08:54 PM
Ive tried to post this information meny times before in the past,I got about max 30views or something...

It seems that the people in this forum don't care about freedom.I truely believe that the only way to be free is to govern yourself...

Not trying to bring you down or anything just saying that you might not get alot of views thats all.

Ah Well..More Freedom For Us Heh

ninja17
29-10-2007, 09:37 PM
The eight veils

;)

erikneo
29-10-2007, 09:51 PM
The eight veils

;)

:)

erikneo
29-10-2007, 10:06 PM
Freeman‐on‐the‐Land

Robert‐Arthur: Menard
Does hereby extend a

CHALLENGE TO DEBATE

To:
Any and All members of The Law Society of BC or Canadian Bar Association
Any and All Judges of the Provincial Court of British Columbia
Any and All Judges of the Supreme Court of British Columbia
Any and All Crown Prosecutors
Any and All Peace Officers and Police Officers
Any and All Canada Revenue Agents
Any and All Corrections or Sheriffs Officers
Any and All MP’s MLA’s or other elected officials

TOPICS TO BE DEBATED:

Do statutes enjoy the force of law without the consent of the governed?
(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says No)
Do courts require mutual consent of both parties to the adjudication prior to providing services?
(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says Yes)
Does a SIN mean we are working legally for the legal entity known as CANADA?(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says Yes)
Can we abandon our SIN and avoid paying income taxes?
(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says Yes)Can we fire the government and exist free of all statutory restraints and obligations?
(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says Yes)
Do the people of British Columbia have a right to justice and can they lawfully convene their own
courts to bring charges against the existing courts?(Freeman Robert‐Arthur says Yes)

If this challenge is not accepted then it shall be deemed that all of the above things
Freeman‐on‐the‐Land Robert‐Arthur: Menard is willing to debate and defend are in fact truths and do in fact
bind the government and those to whom this challenge has been extended. If this challenge is not accepted
then a seminar explaining all these truths will be presented. Furthermore failure to accept this lawful
challenge will be seen by most as evidence that the government has been knowingly and willfully employing
negligence, deception and fraud.

Go to www.thinkfree.ca for more details

ninja17
29-10-2007, 10:06 PM
:)


that was gay lol just kiddin...:D

Slavery and the eight veils

by Don Harkins

Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth -- even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples' inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don't want to see” what is really going on.

Extremely evil men and women who make up the world's power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.

The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship's castle.

Finally, I understand why.

It's not that those who don't see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don't want to see it” -- they simply can't see what is happening to them because of the unpierced veils that block their view.

All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports is one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October.

Behind the first veil: There are over six billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.

The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, be active and have an opinion. Our opinions are shaped by the physical world around us; we have a tendency to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the second veil.

The second veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

The third veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the third veil to find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the world's economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.

The fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.

The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.

The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.

The seventh veil: I do not know what is behind the seventh veil. I think it is where your soul is evolved to the point you can exist on earth and be the man Ghandi was, or the woman Peace Pilgrim was-people so enlightened they brighten the world around them no matter what.

The eighth veil? Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and the pure energy that is the life force in all living things-which are, I think, one and the same.

If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can't, the more insane he appears to them.

Our enemy, the state

Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder -- their combined stations in life are to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security worth dying for.

Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce.

Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find the seventh and eighth veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”

Conclusions

And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so committed to their lives that, “they don't want to see,” the mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply “can't see” it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed curtain.

The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity; 2. To help people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God.

may be put one exclamation mark on the end of threads title?:)

pce

erikneo
29-10-2007, 10:17 PM
http://i21.tinypic.com/t015x2.jpg

pierre_jean
29-10-2007, 10:37 PM
Excellent post, that makes me think of the shift which there exists between the image of a large industrial society which makes use of a mark, a logo, of an image, in short a known of all and easily identifiable symbol (almost become a family mark) whereas the reality of the company is very different : benefit.

But this paradox functions thanks to the mechanism of the imitation.

And now, everyone wants a nuclear plant…

erikneo
30-10-2007, 12:09 AM
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7040453665540929835

spiraltrance
30-10-2007, 12:45 AM
Do not know if this info has ever been posted here, but here goes....
Also check out Mary Croft's free book, there's a link in the text.

<SNIP>

(Preamble - Universal Declaration of Human Rights)
http://www.natural-person.ca/

Great post. This is what we should be seeing more of on these forums.

erikneo
30-10-2007, 01:40 AM
http://www.thinkfree.ca/images/13things.pdf

foreverspirit
30-10-2007, 01:42 AM
Great post. This is what we should be seeing more of on these forums.

Excellent Post Indeed. Thanks very much.:cool:

erikneo
30-10-2007, 01:57 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion/elizabeth/

erikneo
30-10-2007, 01:58 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/folk/free_education/