Her Majesty’s IRA

[tootrue]

Martin Ingram, a British agent admitted infiltration of the IRA and said that over 70% of their bombings were commanded by British Intelligence. We confronted Gerry Adams to get the info from the 'horse's mouth'. There has been vast amounts of evidence uncovered that show U.S and British controlled terrorist groups through out the world that serve a purpose to the controllers. In Iraq British agents were caught dressed as Iraqis carrying out terrorism, they were dramatically broken out of jail. In Iraqi they have found sophisticated bombs matching those used by the IRA aka British Intelligence bombs.

We Are Change Ireland Confronts Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein, IRA) - YouTube

[lightgiver]

Indeed, studying the history of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) is both interesting and revealing. It is a study that has, in the end, less to do with politics and more to do with secret orders and hidden agendas. The persistent student eventually becomes aware that, from the earliest times, some of the most notorious and conspicuous founders and leaders of the major Irish rebel bodies were in fact counter-revolutionaries. They were agents of the British establishment.


The British or, more correctly, Crown controlled brotherhood that secretly controls world affairs had the power not only to send trained agents to infiltrate legitimate Irish patriot groups, but to create groups which appeared legitimate but were anything but. The same sinister elite brotherhood had the power to set one faction against another, one leader against another, and one brand of ideology against another.


In the Republic of Ireland, the wealthy and powerful Masonic elites concealed themselves behind societies known to Irish historians as the Clan na Gael, the Ancient Order of Hibernians, and the Ribbon Order.

Bearing this in mind, when we see Gerry Adams (or other Sinn Fein leaders) wearing the little green ribbon that looks like the AIDS ribbon, we'll remember what is being told to us on a subtextual level. Do your homework and you'll find out that this green ribbon stands for the Ribbon Society, which was a division of the Ancient Order of Hibernians that can itself be traced to the same powerful Masonic cabals that operated throughout the world and conspired to bring about the French Revolution.

http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/briefhistoryireland.html
http://www.sinnfein.org/

[tootrue]

In the Republic of Ireland, the wealthy and powerful Masonic elites concealed themselves behind societies known to Irish historians as the Clan na Gael, the Ancient Order of Hibernians, and the Ribbon Order.

Bearing this in mind, when we see Gerry Adams (or other Sinn Fein leaders) wearing the little green ribbon that looks like the AIDS ribbon, we'll remember what is being told to us on a subtextual level. Do your homework and you'll find out that this green ribbon stands for the Ribbon Society, which was a division of the Ancient Order of Hibernians that can itself be traced to the same powerful Masonic cabals that operated throughout the world and conspired to bring about the French Revolution.

http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/briefhistoryireland.html
http://www.sinnfein.org/

Absolutely lightgiver,

Moreover, this type of 'ribbon' has increasingly been used to 'symbolise' all sorts of appeals and issues (AIDS being one). I've seen it in other countries, where people were wearing it to protest on political affairs. Only the colour changes.

Thanks for the links, too

[missx]

I have found irish history fascinating for years, I too cannot escape the obvious that the whole conflict was manipulated. What is left of the truth is still been manipulated. There is that many parallels with the present war on terror it is scary.

Eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/18/newsid_4165000/4165719.stm
No-one in O'Brians family knew he was in the IRA, despite it been widely known that they recruit from families. He was carrying military grade explosive semtex, which is very stable and not prone to accidental detonation. The witness dies of "asthma" several months later.

Dublin '74 a 14 company operative was clocked coming through dun loghaire the day before the dublin bombings. This fact has been disapeared off the web. Ammonium nitrate is not an "unusually sophisticated explosive" and it doesn't smoke for days afterwards. There is some serous oddities about the birmingham pub bombing as well. both bombs served the same agenda to break a peace process. This is the tip of a ruddy enormous iceberg.

The colin wallace book bares repeated reference to "ultras" that don't want peace. The hidden agenda isn't very well hidden, it is also pretty clear that murder isn't beyond those pushing that agenda.

[tootrue]

cover ups again...,
and again ...- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305646/Claudy-bombing-priest-James-Chesney-Cover-agreed-police-ministers-Church.html

[orb27]

http://watch-movies.ro/imagini/Fifty%20dead%20man%20walking.jpeg

^ Worth a read, the film with Ben Kingsley and Jim Sturgess is worth a look too.

FIFTY DEAD MEN WALKING TRAILER - ON DVD MONDAY 7TH SEPTEMBER!!! - YouTube

[tootrue]

^ Worth a read, the film with Ben Kingsley and Jim Sturgess is worth a look too.



Thank you orb27 ;)
Appreciated!

[dreamscope]

Good thread.

A relative of mine served in Ulster with the British army in 1969 and 1971. Having lost a few friends out there and being witness to no small amount of violence, he bears resentment to the government over how many soldiers and civilians were allowed to be killed when saving them would have meant exposing a mole in an IRA cell.

[passing]

Interesting stuff.

[lightgiver]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Cross_%26_Crown.png

Degrees

The Royal Black Preceptory consists of eleven degrees, as follows: -

(1) Royal Black Degree
(2) Royal Scarlet Degree
(3) Royal Mark Degree
(4) Apron and Royal Blue Degree
(5) Royal White Degree
(6) Royal Green Degree
(7) Gold Degree
(8) Star and Garter Degree
(9) Crimson Arrow Degree
(10) Link and Chain Degree
(11) Red Cross Degree

The Black Preceptory is also known as the Royal Black Institution, a name that sounds worrisome enough. This quorum includes judges, police executives, clergymen, senior intellectuals and academics, and men who run major corporations in Ireland and elsewhere. The Preceptory's senior members have the power to change government policy on a local and even national level.

They reward selected lieutenants in the public limelight for furthering their agendas and see to it that other men who do not fall into lockstep are removed from professional positions. The Preceptory has the power to cover up heinous politically-motivated crimes, sequester evidence so that complicit "brothers" remain unprosecuted, and prevent official investigations into the criminal activities of their members. Additionally, members of the Preceptory and Orange Order (journalists, reporters, and editors, and so on) can bias reportage in any manner desired.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RGJDSZ6GL._SS500_.jpg

How Britain created Ulster's murder gangs

ON Monday, the world was stunned by the release of a report by Nuala O'Loan, the police ombudsman for Northern Ireland, which stated that Special Branch officers in Belfast had "colluded" with loyalist terrorists working for the British state as informers. According to O'Loan, police failed to stop these paramilitary gangs, part of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) from killing an estimated 15 people in the 1990s. While this was seized upon by republicans as proof that security forces had aided a loyalist campaign of sectarian assassination, in reality O'Loan's findings barely scratched the surface of a 30-year history of criminality and murder orchestrated by the British army and the Ulster police.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/how-britain-created-ulster-s-murder-gangs-1.834481

[tootrue]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Cross_%26_Crown.png

Degrees

The Royal Black Preceptory consists of eleven degrees, as follows: -

(1) Royal Black Degree
(2) Royal Scarlet Degree
(3) Royal Mark Degree
(4) Apron and Royal Blue Degree
(5) Royal White Degree
(6) Royal Green Degree
(7) Gold Degree
(8) Star and Garter Degree
(9) Crimson Arrow Degree
(10) Link and Chain Degree
(11) Red Cross Degree

The Black Preceptory is also known as the Royal Black Institution, a name that sounds worrisome enough. This quorum includes judges, police executives, clergymen, senior intellectuals and academics, and men who run major corporations in Ireland and elsewhere. The Preceptory's senior members have the power to change government policy on a local and even national level.

They reward selected lieutenants in the public limelight for furthering their agendas and see to it that other men who do not fall into lockstep are removed from professional positions. The Preceptory has the power to cover up heinous politically-motivated crimes, sequester evidence so that complicit "brothers" remain unprosecuted, and prevent official investigations into the criminal activities of their members. Additionally, members of the Preceptory and Orange Order (journalists, reporters, and editors, and so on) can bias reportage in any manner desired.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RGJDSZ6GL._SS500_.jpg

How Britain created Ulster's murder gangs

ON Monday, the world was stunned by the release of a report by Nuala O'Loan, the police ombudsman for Northern Ireland, which stated that Special Branch officers in Belfast had "colluded" with loyalist terrorists working for the British state as informers. According to O'Loan, police failed to stop these paramilitary gangs, part of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) from killing an estimated 15 people in the 1990s. While this was seized upon by republicans as proof that security forces had aided a loyalist campaign of sectarian assassination, in reality O'Loan's findings barely scratched the surface of a 30-year history of criminality and murder orchestrated by the British army and the Ulster police.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/how-britain-created-ulster-s-murder-gangs-1.834481

thats interesting info
thanks

[primordialman]

Yes more western catholic terrorism not only do catholic priests & offcials have underage childrens spoof on their hands they have the literal blood of millions of innocents as well UNHOLY indeed!.

[tootrue]

Yes more western catholic terrorism not only do catholic priests & offcials have underage childrens spoof on their hands they have the literal blood of millions of innocents as well UNHOLY indeed!.

I think we were discussing the possibility of the MI5/6 posing as catholic terrorists :rolleyes:

[belfast atheist]

Yes more western catholic terrorism not only do catholic priests & offcials have underage childrens spoof on their hands they have the literal blood of millions of innocents as well UNHOLY indeed!.

what? and protestants dont?

[lightgiver]

http://watch-movies.ro/imagini/Fifty%20dead%20man%20walking.jpeg

^ Worth a read, the film with Ben Kingsley and Jim Sturgess is worth a look too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmQU9R1wYNE

Looks Interesting.

[lightgiver]

The Secret Socieities Of Ireland by H. B. C. Pollard first published 1922, is an account of the rise of violent Irish republicanism from the mid 18th century to the early 20th century. Pollard claims that the combined malign influences of the Jesuits, freemasonry, atheistic revolutionaries and criminal mafias played a part in the evolution of militant Irish republicanism. A core of highly disciplined republicans in oath, bound, secretive organisations plotted the infiltration of Irish political and social organisations in an attempt to spur the masses into general rebellion against British rule. They emerged in the context of conflicts between Britain and other European powers and international revolutionary movements.

In the 18th century Irish Catholic groups attacked property while Protestants formed groups to terrorise Irish Catholics. In 1795 in Loughall, Co. Armagh both sides fought a pitched battle. However in 1798 both Protestants and Catholics put their differences aside and led by the United Irishmen, attempted to overthrow British rule with French help. The leadership were wealthy Anglo-Irish Protestants such as Wolfe Tone. Robert Emmet who led an 1803 rebellion came from the same group.


Hugh Bertie Campbell Pollard (1888-1966) was born in London, baptised a Roman Catholic and educated in boarding school. He joined the British Army and was promoted to Captain during World War I. In 1920 he became Press Officer to the information section of the Royal Irish Constablary or RIC, the British police force in Ireland. He was involved in a 'black propaganda' campaign against the IRA producing fake versions of the Irish Bulletin, a gazette read by Irish republicans and fake newsreels purporting to show British progress in the conflict. The exposure of Pollard's activities embarrassed the British government.

During World War II, he was involved with the Special Operations Executive or SOE, set up by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill to co-ordinate guerrilla warfare by resistance groups against Nazi forces in occupied Europe. Ironically, it is said that the SOE modelled itself on the Irish Republican Army.

[kennybhoy67]

Martin Ingrams book is decent enough,but is not the most reliable source of information.That's an understatement actually.
Where did he get his 70% figure from?

It's well known the Provisionals were infiltrated,particularly in Belfast,but claims like Alex Jones' that 7/10 IRA Commanders were agents are just absurd.

[entrangermercenary]

Martin Ingrams book is decent enough,but is not the most reliable source of information.That's an understatement actually.
Where did he get his 70% figure from?

It's well known the Provisionals were infiltrated,particularly in Belfast,but claims like Alex Jones' that 7/10 IRA Commanders were agents are just absurd.

With you user name bhoy I tend to agree with you :D After all personel knowledge is often more accurate than somebody trying to sensationalize things for flogging a book ;)

My family is from the other side bhoyo !!!

[lightgiver]

William III & II (4 November 1650 – 8 March 1702)[1] (Dutch: Willem III) was a sovereign Prince of Orange by birth.

Throughout The Troubles, the Provisional IRA made extensive use of IEDs in their 1969-1997 campaign. They used barrack buster mortars and remote controlled IEDs. Members of the PIRA developed and counter-developed devices and tactics. PIRA bombs became highly sophisticated, featuring anti-handling devices such as a mercury tilt switch or microswitches.

Documentary on the 1996 IRA bomb in Manchester - 'After the Bomb'

Documentary on the 1996 IRA bomb in Manchester - 'After the Bomb' (2008) - YouTube

Her Majesty’s IRA
Quote:
Martin Ingram, a British agent admitted infiltration of the IRA and said that over 70% of their bombings were commanded by British Intelligence. We confronted Gerry Adams to get the info from the 'horse's mouth'. There has been vast amounts of evidence uncovered that show U.S and British controlled terrorist groups through out the world that serve a purpose to the controllers. In Iraq British agents were caught dressed as Iraqis carrying out terrorism, they were dramatically broken out of jail. In Iraqi they have found sophisticated bombs matching those used by the IRA aka British Intelligence bombs.

The Second Coming - Part 8/16 - YouTube

We had a group of Shaolin Monks staying with us at the hotel, ...

http://youtu.be/W8rDB-1kE5o

William III of England - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://youtu.be/9xO8ayhvbjI

[diamond dogs]

I have always had my doubts over who was behind and responsible for the Brighton bombing and something doesn't sit right with me, I remember after the event a Crimewatch special programme that concentrated on a signiature of the 'so called' bomber at the time that was left in the guest book. It seemed to be right from the start of the investigation that the story was always going to be based on the the guest book signiature..and not long afterwards they got their man.. it was as if all other evidence was irrelevant and all other avenues of investigation were not neccessary..

I am absolutely certain that sniffer dogs would have detected the explosives.

I can't weigh up the 'bombers' body language ..could he be a fall guy... would they have really let him out after 14 years and survive after committing such an atrocity..this interview seems surreal ?

IRA Brighton bomber interview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN3A7iZYISM

[lightgiver]

I have always had my doubts over who was behind and responsible for the Brighton bombing and something doesn't sit right with me,

I am absolutely certain that sniffer dogs would have detected the explosives.

I can't weigh up the 'bombers' body language ..could he be a fall guy... would they have really let him out after 14 years and survive after committing such an atrocity..this interview seems surreal ?



Something doesn't sit right with me either,

The Provisional IRA kills eight British soldiers in a bomb attack on a military bus near Ballygawley,

Why was this route taken ?

IRA bomb kills 8 soldiers (Aug 1988)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://youtu.be/vat-gW7ffls

A major IRA attack in County Tyrone took place on 20 August 1988, barely a year after Loughall, which ended in the deaths of eight soldiers when a British Army bus was bombed at Curr Road, near Ballygawley. The soldiers were being transported from RAF Aldergrove to a military base near Omagh after returning from leave in England. This attack forced the British military to ferry their troops to and from East Tyrone by helicopter.

15 June 1988...Six off-duty British Army soldiers were killed by a PIRA bomb attached to their van in Lisburn. The bomb was made in such a way so as to ensure it exploded upwards, lowering the risk of collateral damage

Aged 22, Royal Corps of Signals, one of six soldiers killed.

IRA kill six British soldiers in Lisburn (June 1988)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://youtu.be/KRWGk3zxNuA

On 30 August 1988, an SAS ambush killed IRA members Gerard Harte, Martin Harte and Brian Mullin as they tried to kill an off-duty Ulster Defence Regiment member near Carrickmore. British intelligence identified them as the perpetrators of the attack on the military bus at Curr road.

6 March 1988...Operation Flavius – three unarmed PIRA volunteers were killed by the SAS in Gibraltar.

He describes three IRA members as the "bad boys" who got "the shock of their life".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzPx5_QSWk&feature=player_detailpage

Bad Lads Army...The Captain telling his young recruits that they're all going to die. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but they're all going to die.

http://youtu.be/DNzPx5_QSWk

Provisional IRA East Tyrone Brigade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.scotchirish.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=980

[lightgiver]

In the 1980s, the IRA in East Tyrone and other areas close to the border, such as South Armagh, were following a Maoist military theory devised for Ireland by Jimmy Lynagh, a high-profile member of the IRA in east Tyrone (but a native of County Monaghan). The theory involved creating "no-go zones" that the security forces of Northern Ireland did not control and gradually expanding them to make the country ungovernable.

Journalist Ian Bruce, claims that an Irishman who served on the Parachute Regiment was the leader of the IRA unit, citing intelligence sources.

Róisín McAliskey, daughter of political activist Bernadette McAliskey and suspected IRA member from Coalisland was accused by German authorities of being involved in a mortar attack on British Army facilities in Osnabrück, Germany, on 28 June 1996. Her extradition from Northern Ireland was refused in 2007.

A Secret History of the IRA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[lightgiver]

Their cause has always been a united Ireland, but much of the cash that funds republican groups comes from the United States.

"Without their funding, the IRA would not have nearly the same potential for violence that it currently has," he says.

Noraid has openly expressed support for the IRA but says it gives money for humanitarian aid, and denies its donations are used for the purchase of arms.Sinn Fein and the IRA's stock has been tumbling in Washington ever since Bill Clinton - a president who immersed himself in Northern Irish politics - left office, says Mr O'Clery, author of Greening the White House.

"The two words drugs and Marxism have done more damage to Sinn Fein than the attack on the World Trade Center," says Mr O'Clery.

Lord Victor Rothschild, the controller of British Intelligence

The man behind this law was Lord Victor Rothschild, one of the most important manipulators of the second half of the 20th century and a friend of Winston Churchill. It was Churchill who began to use Regulation 18b as soon as he took office in order to jail people who knew what was going on and were prepared to say so. The American Ambassador in London in this period was Joseph Kennedy, the deeply crooked father of John F Kennedy. The Kennedy’s are an Elite bloodline going back to the Irish kings and beyond.

The Devils Own ...Holly wood was named Hollywood due to a few circumstances. ... Holly wood is named"holy wood" and the holy wood is the staff of the magi
The Devils Own - YouTube
http://youtu.be/4bm2aPLEUzA

After the war, the world was mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically devastated. This allowed the banks to make vast fortunes lending money to governments to rebuild the societies destroyed by a war the same banks had funded. This massively increased the debt owed by nations to private banks and the control over those countries increased in proportion. The desperation for peace made the world open to the main reason the Brotherhood had created the war - the formation of the United Nations.

The Devils Own trailer ...Holywood (pronounced /ˈhɒliwʊd/ hol-ee-wuud, as in "Hollywood") is a town in County Down, Northern Ireland.
The Devils Own trailer - YouTube
http://youtu.be/RozG2ejdeh8

Ireland Bailout Equal to $8.8 trillion US Equivalent >>> roughly...The modern-day cult of Che blinds us not just to the past but also to the present.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret11.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161530/U-S-businessman-funded-Real-IRA-soldier-killers-smuggling-cigarettes-Ireland.html

[dolores1]

Excellent posts Lightgiver.

[lightgiver]

Many Irish Jews supported the Irish Republican Army and the First Dail during the Irish War of Independence. Michael Noyk, was a Lithuanian born solicitor who became famous for defending captured Irish Republican prisoners such as Sean MacEoin. Robert Briscoe was a prominent member of the IRA during the Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War. He was sent by Michael Collins to Germany in 1920 to be the chief agent for procuring arms for the IRA. Briscoe proved to be highly successful at this mission and arms arrived into Ireland in spite of the British blockade.

Grave of an unknown Jew in Castletroy, Limerick
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2420/limerickjewishgrave.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/limerickjewishgrave.jpg/)

The vast majority of Scottish Jews are Ashkenazi.

The Scarlet Thread

And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah - (Gen 38:27-30)

Akhenaton - As the Sphinx-like Lion (of Judea). He was the Biblical Moses and the true "King of the Jews."

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7823/akhenatensphinx.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/akhenatensphinx.jpg/)

Pharaonic Lion and Unicorn - primarily symbolizing the Cult of Aton and the Tribe of Judah, both renegade exiles from Egypt.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8981/lionflag2.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/lionflag2.gif/)

The Yew Tree - One of the most sacred of all trees in Druidism. The taller and thinner variety of yew (similar to the cypress), known as fastigiata, grew abundantly throughout Western Ireland and was sacred to the ancient warrior queen and goddess of the Tuatha de Danann, Banbha, after whom Ireland was once named. Botanists believe all other Yews in the world to be descended from two Irish trees. County "Mayo" comes from the word meaning "yew forest." Interestingly, the most sacred Egyptian groves, orchards, and temple precincts appear to have had these Irish yews in pride of place. According to Ralph Ellis, the yew was the Egyptian's original "Tree of Life," and it featured prominently in Egypt's most sacred mystery school traditions and initiatory rites. It was a symbol of death and underworld rites. The oldest implements in the world, dating to over 50,000 years ago were made of yew wood. The tree may have been considered sacred because it poisoned all animals that ate of its bark or leaves except the stag and deer. The deer and stag were supremely sacred to the Irish Druids. The Yew can still frequently be found in British churchyards. Given that the Yews are older than Christian churches, it follows that Christian churches and cathedrals were deliberately positioned near to the tree for symbolic purposes. A study of the Yew tree serves to confirm the West to East movement of the elements of religion. The last letter of the Irish Ogham alphabet "I" was connected to the yew tree. The letter turns up as the Hebrew Yod, the first letter of the name of god Jehovah whom Moses suggestively met at a "burning bush." The word yew may be connected to the word Jew, from Yahu or Juda. So, were the "Jews" originally "men of the Yew" - that is initiates of Druidic colleges?

The Last Temptation of Christ - YouTube
http://youtu.be/JXuRaxTavBM

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/book2_chap41.html

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=180465&page=3

[lightgiver]

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4944/boysbrazil.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/boysbrazil.jpg/)

Lieberman gains insight from an incarcerated Nazi guard who worked with the adoption agency, and with an expert on cloning who helps him discover the truth behind the whole plan: Mengele secluded several surrogate mothers in a Brazilian clinic and instilled Hitler's DNA into their ova, thereby giving birth to 94 perfect clones of Hitler himself. Lieberman's investigations unnerve Mengele's superiors, including his principal contact, Seibert (James Mason), who demands that he abort his scheme. But the doctor has spent twenty years pursuing his plans, ever since he first acquired a fragment of rib skin and a half-litre blood sample from Hitler in May 1943 to use as DNA in a plan to recreate Hitler's body and soul and to fulfill the aims of the Third Reich.

Ninti (Lady Rib), is also a pun on Lady Life, a title of ... who was made from the rib of Adam, in a strange reflection of the Sumerian myth

Genetics (from Ancient Greek γενετικός genetikos, "genitive" and that from γένεσις genesis, "origin"), a discipline of biology, is the science of genes, heredity, and variation in living organisms.

The Stranglers - Genetix. Album Version From The Raven - YouTube

Genetix ...Version From The Raven

http://youtu.be/tN93UJkiBao

Medical genetics saw an increasingly rapid rise in the second half of the 20th century and continues in the 21st century.

Mendelian inheritance (or Mendelian genetics or Mendelism) is a scientific description of how hereditary characteristics are passed from parent organisms to their offspring; it underlies much of genetics.

When the body dies, the incorporeal mental processes continue and are reborn in a new body.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060137769&postcount=14

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060140081&postcount=19

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060140152&postcount=43

[illuminumnuts]

What country do you live in Lightgiver? Just wondered.

Edit - Answer appreciated. Cheers buddy. :)

[lightgiver]

Desire realm, the first of the three realms. The desire realm is so called because the beings inhabiting it are prey to intense emotion and crave happiness based on the pleasures of the senses. The desire realm consists of thirty-six abodes where the six classes of beings live.

The thirty-six abodes where sentient beings live in the desire realm are:

the six heavens of the gods in the desire realm
the twelve abodes of human beings
the abodes of animals
the abode of pretas
the sixteen hells.

We count thirty-seven abodes when the demi-gods are classified separately. Some powerful nagas are also included within the gods, while the other are animals.

hell beings - anger
hungry ghosts, or pretas - miserliness
animals- stupidity
human beings - desire
demi-gods, or asuras - jealousy
gods - pride

Jambudvipa >>> Its shape is trapezoidal or resembling the shape of an axe-head. It is the human world in which we live.

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8413/fourcontinents.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/535/fourcontinents.jpg/)

A representation of our world system with Jambudvipa pictured at the bottom centre of the image.

Bob Marley - Small Axe - YouTube
http://youtu.be/ia6Tvpj6dPw
Small Axe

[lightgiver]

What country do you live in Lightgiver? Just wondered.



Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN3DJn-2TF0&feature=player_detailpage

Just Like Nothing On Earth

http://youtu.be/pN3DJn-2TF0

Ki, Firm Land of the Below, let Earth her name henceforth be!

Earth's companion, the Moon forever to be!

Now this is the account of how the Olden Times began

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8214/annunakialostbookofenki.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/annunakialostbookofenki.jpg/)


The film is based on the 1963 novel of the same name by Walter Tevis, about an extraterrestrial who crash lands on Earth seeking a way to ship water to his planet, which is suffering from a severe drought.The film's production had been scheduled to last eleven weeks.

One day, Bowie noticed "Some gold liquid swimming around in shiny swirls inside the glass" of milk he was drinking and for the next two days of production Bowie was sick.

Newton starts by using the advanced technology of his home planet to patent many inventions on Earth.

Planet of the apes 1 (1968) - Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVo7O349BFk&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/iVo7O349BFk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Fell_to_Earth_(film)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060129241&postcount=3

The Last Temptation of Christ, 1988, by Martin Scorsese - YouTube

1988, by Martin Scorsese

http://youtu.be/EJvRdwqctn0

The Last Temptation of Christ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[illuminumnuts]

Why?

Just curious. I am in England myself.

[elijahb]

The British Royal family changed their name from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in the early part of the 20th century to the House of Windsor. They descend from the House of Wetten which advanced over the course of the Middle Ages to inherit the landgraviate of Thuringia where they were eventually invested with the Duchy of Saxony, centred at Wittenberg, thus becoming one of the prince-electors of the Holy Roman Empire.

Look at Thuringia coat of arms... it is the British lion and the stars and stripes of the USA. USA/UK = One and the SAME thing.

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/452px-coat_of_arms_of_thuringia-svg.png

Interestingly, the Thuringii or Toringi were a Germanic tribe which appeared late during the Völkerwanderung in the Harz Mountains of central Germania around 280, in a region which still bears their name to this day — Thuringia.

The British monarch continues the policies of a corrupt Holy Roman Empire to this day, this is why we still see the presence of the laurel wreath surrounding the House of Windsor coat of arms, which was taken from the original Roman Empire and given to erroneous organisations such as the United Nations. These people have been at it for thousands of years...

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/475px-badge_of_the_house_of_windsor-svg.png

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/120px-vexilloid_of_the_roman_empire-svg.png

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/united-nations.jpg

[lightgiver]

The Doors - Spanish Caravan - Album Waiting For The Sun 1968 ( Symphonic Version by Nigel Kennedy ) - YouTube

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2238/0028946735022.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/0028946735022.jpg/)

http://youtu.be/iLHJzx49mAA

The English term Gypsy (or Gipsy) originates from the Greek word for "Egyptian", Αιγύπτιοι (Aigyptioi, whence modern Greek γύφτοι gifti), in the belief that the Romanies, or some other Gypsy groups, originated in Egypt, and in one narrative were exiled as punishment for allegedly harbouring the infant Jesus.

Just curious. I am in England myself.

Not so far away.

Gypsy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[lightgiver]

The British Royal family changed their name from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in the early part of the 20th century to the House of Windsor. They descend from the House of Wetten which advanced over the course of the Middle Ages to inherit the landgraviate of Thuringia where they were eventually invested with the Duchy of Saxony, centred at Wittenberg, thus becoming one of the prince-electors of the Holy Roman Empire.

Look at Thuringia coat of arms... it is the British lion and the stars and stripes of the USA. USA/UK = One and the SAME thing.

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/452px-coat_of_arms_of_thuringia-svg.png

Interestingly, the Thuringii or Toringi were a Germanic tribe which appeared late during the Völkerwanderung in the Harz Mountains of central Germania around 280, in a region which still bears their name to this day — Thuringia.

These people have been at it for thousands of years...


The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (Československá socialistická republika in Czech and Slovak) was the official name of Czechoslovakia from 1960 until end of 1989 (i.e., shortly after the Velvet Revolution), a Soviet satellite state of the Eastern Bloc.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/460/419pxczechoslovakiacoa1.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/419pxczechoslovakiacoa1.png/)

Czechoslovakia or Czecho-Slovakia (Czech and Slovak: Československo, Česko-Slovensko) was a sovereign state in Central Europe which existed from October 1918, when it declared its independence from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, until 1992.



Semtex was invented in the late 1950s by Stanislav Brebera, a chemist at VCHZ Synthesia, Czechoslovakia.

15 June 1988...Six off-duty British Army soldiers were killed by a PIRA bomb attached to their van in Lisburn. The bomb was made in such a way so as to ensure it exploded upwards, lowering the risk of collateral damage

Aged 22, Royal Corps of Signals, one of six soldiers killed.

IRA kill six British soldiers in Lisburn (June 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRWGk3zxNuA&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/KRWGk3zxNuA

Various sources state that production started in 1964 or 1966. Explosia's brief historical document states it was 1964, but most other credible sources state it was in 1966. Most of these also state that development was started at the same time, in response to a request from Vietnam for a counterpart to the US's construction of C-4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semtex




On 1 January 1993, Czechoslovakia peacefully split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/505/497pxcoacsfrcsvg.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/497pxcoacsfrcsvg.png/)

The eastern region was composed of northern reaches of Carpathian Mountains and Danube River basin lands.

Lou Reed - Satellite of Love - YouTube
http://youtu.be/FH2EgYq_NCY

Czechoslovakia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carpathian Mountains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Czechoslovak Socialist Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[neutrino]

IRA

I = Eye

RA = Ra the sun god

together means the Eye of Ra. :eek:

or not.

[lightgiver]

All forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names. Alternatively humans were created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra." In the myth of the Celestial Cow it is recounted how mankind plotted against Ra and how he sent his eye as the goddess Sekhmet to punish them. When she became blood thirsty she was pacified by mixing beer with red dye.

IRA

I = Eye

RA = Ra the sun god

together means the Eye of Ra. :eek:


PI RA >>> When referring to the constant, the symbol π is pronounced like the English word "pie"

I RA

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/259/irishdefenceforcesglaig.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/irishdefenceforcesglaig.jpg/)

Óglaigh na hÉireann is an Irish language idiom that can be translated variously as soldiers of Ireland, warriors of Ireland, volunteers of Ireland or Irish volunteers.

Óglaigh na hÉireann - YouTube
http://youtu.be/-CJZmaxp7x4

It is sometimes written in traditional Gaelic script as Óglaıġ na hÉıreann.

The chief cult centre of Ra was Heliopolis (called Iunu, "Place of Pillars", in Egyptian), where he was identified with the local sun-god Atum.

Vatican City's Piazza San Pietro.
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4558/suncrosspiazzasanpietro.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/suncrosspiazzasanpietro.jpg/)

The rise of Christianity in the Roman empire caused an end to the worship of Ra by the citizens of Egypt,and as Ra's popularity suddenly died out, the study of Ra became purely for academic knowledge even among the Egyptian priests.

Many acts of worship included hymns, prayers, and spells to help Ra and the sun boat overcome Apep.The Holiday of 'The Receiving of Ra'.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8390/mosquemaryamstar.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/mosquemaryamstar.jpg/)

Mosque Maryam ceiling, Chicago, US

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7929/nergal004.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/nergal004.gif/)

Nergal,He is the son of Enlil and Ninlil.

Nergal actually seems to be in part a solar deity, sometimes identified with Shamash, but only a representative of a certain phase of the sun. Portrayed in hymns and myths as a god of war and pestilence, Nergal seems to represent the sun of noontime and of the summer solstice that brings destruction, high summer being the dead season in the Mesopotamian annual cycle.

Nergal's fiery aspect appears in names or epithets such as Lugalgira, Sharrapu ("the burner," a reference to his manner of dealing with outdated teachings),Nergal has epithets such as the "raging king," the "furious one," and the like.

THE SONS OF THE SERPENT TRIBE THE OLD BATTLE-AXE.

Patriot Games (1992) - 2/11 - YouTube
http://youtu.be/FQDvyBN9Nm4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_star

Irish Republican Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/serpent_tribe/serpent_tribe15.htm

[hartifax]

Something doesn't sit right with me either,

The Provisional IRA kills eight British soldiers in a bomb attack on a military bus near Ballygawley,

Why was this route taken ?




I was on the bus that was blown up near Ballygawley and gave evidence at the inquest.

The whole 'route' issue was because the Ops room told the driver NOT to go that way, but he did anyway. So it could only be an inside job if he was suicidal.

It was a bait and switch issue anyway, as the route made no difference to what happened. It diverted blame on to the driver and away from the Army. It stopped people asking important questions, like – why were we abandoned and poorly supported?

We had no radio, no first aid kit, no torch, nothing… When helicopters came we thought help had arrived, but they flew straight over. It was over an hour before ambulances turned up…

The bus was already highly compromised; it went in and out of the Army camps main gates several times a day for years. So the route was irrelevant...

[lightgiver]

Great trading centres on the maritime trade routes to Britain and also to the Baltic. The late Roman writer, Avienus, quoted from a sixth century BC nautical log from Marseilles (Massilia) as describing the trade between Tartessos (the Biblical Tarshish) and the peoples of southwestern Britain, Ireland and Brittany.

The tin was mined, beaten into squares and carried to centres such as Ictis ( St. Michael's Mount in Cornwall ) where it was loaded on to ships

Then the tin followed one of two alternative routes between the southwest of Britain and the Eastern Mediterranean. One was by sea via the Atlantic coast of Spain through the Pillars of Hercules past Tarshish across the Mediterranean to it's final destination in Phoenicia.

The other was overland across Brittany to the Greek settlement of Massilia (Marseilles) as described by Diodorus Siculus.

The land route started by sea across the Channel to Morlaix (France). From Morlaix it was carried across France on pack horses to Marseilles where the tin was loaded on to ships for the last stage of the journey to Phoenicia.

By the first century AD the Bristol Channel was a well established trading centre.

Writing circa 445 BC Herotodus speaks of the British Isles as the Tin Isles or Casserides.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5348/pobfig025.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/pobfig025.jpg/)

Egyptian blue faience beads have been found in Neolithic tombs.

"The collapse of Roman Communications. during the first half of the fifth century was followed by the resumption of the Irish Sea trade routes of the later prehistoric periods. The Irish Sea became a unifying factor between Ireland, South Wales, south-west Britain and Brittany with contacts reaching as far as the East Mediterranean. This is shown particularly by the importation of jars of wine or oil from the Eastern Mediterranean to south-west Britain; sherds of these vessels have already been found at Tintagel, Lundy, Glastonbury Tor, and in South Wales at Dinas Powys. This Trade in luxuries implies the existence of a wealthy and well connected aristocracy.'' The Archaeology of Exmoor'

Three of these sites are acknowledged to have been the citadels of native princes; TINtagel, Glastonbury Tor (1964-5 excavations conducted by Philip Rhatz) and Dinas Powys.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9382/pobp416map85p.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/pobp416map85p.jpg/)

The main Phoenician settlements.

Antioch (1), Cyprus (2), Crete (3), Sicily (4), Cyrenia (5), Massilia (Marseilles) (7), Sardinia (6), Spain (8) and ultimately Southwest Britain (9).

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4300/trademapw.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/trademapw.jpg/)

THE AMORITE PHOENICIAN TIN MINES OF CASSITERIDES OR CORNWALL REFERRED TO ABOUT 2750 B.C. BY SARGON I. OF AKKAD, & KAPTARA OR "CAPHTOR" AS ABDARA IN SPAIN.

A CONTEMPORARY reference to the Amorite Phoenician tin mines in Britain appears probably to exist in the historical road-tablet of the great "Akkad" emperor Sargon I., about 2800-2750 B.C., recording the mileage and geography of the roads throughout his vast empire of world-conquest. The existing document is a certified copy in cuneiform script of the original record of Sargon I. It was found at the Assyrian capital of Assur, and was made by an official scribe in the 8th century B.C.

"To the Tin-land (KUGA-KI) (and) Kaptara (Caphtor, Krete), countries beyond the Upper Sea (the Mediterranean)."

AMORITE PHOENICIANS IN CORNWALL

Now "Anak" in Akkadian is a name for "Tin." And Tarshish, which, as Tarz or Tarsus, we have seen was a chief port of the Amorite Phoenicians, and which we know was actually visited and conquered by Sargon I., is thus celebrated in the Old Testament in connection with Tyre of the Phoenicians: "Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kinds of riches; with silver, iron, TIN, and lead, they traded in thy fairs."

It would thus appear that the Tin which was imported into ancient Palestine, which was presumably obtained in most part, if not altogether, from the Phoenician Tin-mines of Ancient Britain.

The Almagest tractate, which lies as corner Stone contemporary chronology, compiled in the 2nd century A D by Ptolemy, the founding father of astronomy, contains astronomical data of 9th to 16th century. The Bronze Age, that has supposedly began 5000 years ago. Bronze is made of 90% copper and 10% tin, but the technology for tin extraction dates back to 14th century A D. All eclipses contained in manuscripts, like Thucydides one, relating ancient events have exclusively medieval dating. All horoscopes cut in Stone or painted in Egyptian temples, like DENDERA have exclusively early medieval dating solutions.




There's a 7th century BC Egyptian mummy in Belfast Museum thought you might like to see... and check out the girls hair :)

http://www.culture24.org.uk/asset_arena/9/91/77/177199/v0_master.jpg

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history+%2526+heritage/archaeology/art69940

Notice the beads again... I seen you post this before.

In 1955, archaeologist Dr. Sean O’Riordan of Trinity College, Dublin, made an interesting discovery during an excavation of the Mound of Hostages at Tara, site of ancient kingship of Ireland. Bronze Age skeletal remains were found of what has been argued to be a young prince, still wearing a rare necklace of faience beads, made from a paste of minerals and plant extracts that had been fired.

The skeleton was carbon dated to around 1350 BC. In 1956, J. F. Stone and L. C. Thomas reported that the faience beads were Egyptian: “In fact, when they were compared with Egyptian faience beads, they were found to be not only of identical manufacture but also of matching design.

The famous boy-king Tutankhamun was entombed around the same time as the Tara skeleton and the priceless golden collar around his mummy’s neck was inlayed with matching conical, blue-green faience beads”. An almost identical necklace was found in a Bronze Age burial mound at north Molton, Devon.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=854

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060151693&postcount=18894

LONDON Aug 1 (Reuters Life!) - Up to 70 percent of British/Irish men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland said.

Scientists at Zurich-based DNA genealogy centre, iGENEA, reconstructed the DNA profile of the boy Pharaoh, who ascended the throne at the age of nine, his father Akhenaten and grandfather Amenhotep III, based on a film that was made for the Discovery Channel.

The results showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50 percent of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating that they share a common ancestor.

Among modern-day Egyptians this haplogroup contingent is below 1 percent, according to iGENEA.

"It was very interesting to discover that he belonged to a genetic group in Europe -- there were many possible groups in Egypt that the DNA could have belonged to," said Roman Scholz, director of the iGENEA Centre.

Around 70 percent of Spanish and 60 percent of French men also belong to the genetic group of the Pharaoh who ruled Egypt more than 3,000 years ago.

"We think the common ancestor lived in the Caucasus about 9,500 years ago," Scholz told Reuters.

It is estimated that the earliest migration of haplogroup R1b1a2 into Europe began with the spread of agriculture in 7,000 BC, according to iGENEA.


However, the geneticists were not sure how Tutankhamun's paternal lineage came to Egypt from its region of origin.

The centre is now using DNA testing to search for the closest living relatives of "King Tut".

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16330

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/190737/20110802/king-tut-pharaoh-tutankhamun-mummies-tutankhamun-mummy-king-tut-mummy-egypt-boy-king-tut-s-lineage-d.htm



The oldest depictions of harps without a forepillar are from 5000 BC which was the sumerian harp of Perspolis/Persia in Iran and from 4000 BC in Egypt. Other ancient names for harps include magadis and sambuca.

The Irish drink Guinness uses a harp, facing right and less detailed than the version used on the state arms.

The Ancient Egyptian Harp - YouTube
http://youtu.be/wvqRZzT2kJI

Since 1922, the government of Ireland has used a similar left-facing harp, based on the Trinity College Harp in the Library of Trinity College Dublin as its state symbol. It first appeared on the Great Seal of the Irish Free State, which in turn was replaced by the coat of arms, the Irish Presidential Standard and the Presidential Seal in the 1937 Constitution of Ireland. The harp appears on various other official state seals and documents as well as the Irish passport. The harp has also appeared on Irish coinage from the Middle Ages to the current Irish imprints of the Euro coins.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146411686

[humanspirit]

The phoenix is a symbol that is linked to the I.R.A.

Is this symbol used by freemasonry or the catholic church?

[lightgiver]

Indeed, studying the history of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) is both interesting and revealing. It is a study that has, in the end, less to do with politics and more to do with secret orders and hidden agendas.

"Please remember that Gerry Adams is a Jesuit himself. Remember that the whole illusion of opposition is a creation of the Jesuits through their Knights of Malta in control of British Intelligence. Do not forget the British involved with the bombs and bombings. Now they have the new super terrorist Al-CIA-da they no longer need the IRA. Didn't you ever make that connection to the IRA death? Whats funny is that the bombings claimed as IRA were far worse than al-CIA-da and almost every damn week. Lets not forget folks how Gerry Adams is a puppet front controller of a secret society known as the Ancient Order of Hibernians which is linked to the LUCIFERIAN green colour. This order is also known as the Green Ribbon Lodge. All Jesuit controlled consisting of only Catholics."

It is highly organized turning groups and races against each other their goal is to divide and counter. Such as America and Russia, Northern Ireland and the IRA, and of course what is happening in Middle East.

Patriot Games (1992) - 9/11 - YouTube
http://youtu.be/JVUIPu3XLG0

The members of this Order believe that they are the aristocracy of the World and have knowledge and power over the nations of the Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee7_Ix72e3o&feature=player_detailpage

Genesis 3:22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

http://youtu.be/ee7_Ix72e3o...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret11.htm

The British or, more correctly, Crown controlled brotherhood that secretly controls world affairs had the power not only to send trained agents to infiltrate legitimate Irish patriot groups, but to create groups which appeared legitimate but were anything but. The same sinister elite brotherhood had the power to set one faction against another, one leader against another, and one brand of ideology against another.

"Martin Ingram (pseudonym), a British agent admitted infiltration of the IRA and said that over 70% of their bombings were commanded by British Intelligence. We confronted Gerry Adams to get the info from the 'horse's mouth'. There has been vast amounts of evidence uncovered that show U.S and British controlled terrorist groups through out the world that serve a purpose to the controllers. In Iraq British agents were caught dressed as Iraqis carrying out terrorism, they were dramatically broken out of jail. In Iraqi they have found sophisticated bombs matching those used by the IRA AKA British Intelligence bombs. To misdirect a group all you need do is corrupt a few leaders. Has the 2nd and more destructive IRA (provisional IRA) proven to be 100% infiltrated by British Intelligence? Yes. Here is a handful of well known examples: Denis Donaldson, one of the most senior figures in Sinn Fein entrusted by Gerry Adams. "On 16 December 2005, senior Sinn Féin member Denis Donaldson appeared before TV cameras in Dublin and confessed to being a British spy for twenty years." Sean O'Callaghan was a member of Sinn Fein's ruling council who was debriefed by MI5 and also worked for the Irish police. A more recent example would be from Feb 2008, Roy McShane, a former IRA man on the payroll of MI5. Announced by an embarrassed Sinn Fein."

Proverbs 22:7: The rich rules over the poor; And the borrower is a servant to the lender.

<<< Matthew 5:44 >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKYvUebRQg&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/NIKYvUebRQg

Edward Egan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corporals killings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[lightgiver]

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2033/44365153686777755711107.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/44365153686777755711107.jpg/)

The Doors - Riders on the storm - YouTube
http://youtu.be/DKbPUzhWeeI

Pink Floyd - the wall - what shall we do now? subtitulada - YouTube
http://youtu.be/2HZxF0naty4

[dreamscope]

I was on the bus that was blown up near Ballygawley and gave evidence at the inquest.

The whole 'route' issue was because the Ops room told the driver NOT to go that way, but he did anyway. So it could only be an inside job if he was suicidal.

It was a bait and switch issue anyway, as the route made no difference to what happened. It diverted blame on to the driver and away from the Army. It stopped people asking important questions, like – why were we abandoned and poorly supported?

We had no radio, no first aid kit, no torch, nothing… When helicopters came we thought help had arrived, but they flew straight over. It was over an hour before ambulances turned up…

The bus was already highly compromised; it went in and out of the Army camps main gates several times a day for years. So the route was irrelevant...

Brilliant post...thanks for sharing.

[lightgiver]

Brilliant post...thanks for sharing.

You are welcome...he was forbidden according to the driver...Ian Paisley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...you will have to leave earlier...to make a die tour...in 1988.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://youtu.be/vat-gW7ffls

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=4934&page=200

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060220637&postcount=278

[dreamscope]

You are welcome

No offence, but I clearly indicated I was responding to Hartifax for sharing his first-hand experience. Which is something that is usually lacking on this forum.

[lightgiver]

No offence, but I clearly indicated I was responding to Hartifax for sharing his first-hand experience. Which is something that is usually lacking on this forum.

Does that include your self.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060158154&postcount=92

[eternal_spirit]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fd/Innishargie.jpg/250px-Innishargie.jpg

The above pic is LOYALIST connected to the Orange LODGE NOT IRA (jus sayin)

The Orange Order has a new logo. As announced in the Belfast Telegraph a Northern Irish graphic designer, Mark Thompson from County Down, has designed the symbol.

It is hardly an overstatement to suggest that the Orange Order is a highly contentious organisation. As a vehicle for cultural and political identity it has played a prominent role in both culture and politics in Northern Ireland. In general presentation the imagery it has used has rested on reiterations of a strongly traditional visual culture of banners and flags, supplemented by other cultural modes of expression such as marching bands and music itself.

The problems of designing a new symbol are manifest. How does one retain the significations of ‘tradition’ while utilising some aspect of modernity? Moreover if one attempts to find a single symbol uniting the Orange Order one will be disappointed. On the internet and elsewhere the Orange Order utilises a multiplicity of devices, emblems and signs. First and foremost is the colour orange, drawn from King William III (William of Orange) who vanquished King James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. That the Orange Order was not established until after the centenary of that Battle, in 1795, is perhaps indicative of a lack of direct historical continuity between the organisation and that which it seems to commemorate – and in this regard the Order is a fine exemplar of what Eric Hobsbawm has termed the ‘invented tradition’.


http://designresearchgroup.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/180px-flag_of_the_orange_ordersvg.png?w=600
The flag of the Orange Order contains the Cross of St. George and a five pointed purple or lilac star on an orange ground.
Other symbols, and the webpage of the Grand Orange Lodge below is typical, include the Crown, representative of the authority of the British monarch, and images of Orange Banners at parade. Intriguingly the Banner below uses a rather neutral symbolism, that of a train (perhaps signifying a softened modernity) festooned with Union Flags. In some respects this spectrum of visual imagery speaks of the activism of the Order. It is very much an organic entity that manifests itself through ‘performance’ rather than static displays, and it is this which has led to a contentious and sometimes non-existent negotiation between the Order and the broader society within which it organises.

http://designresearchgroup.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/a-kinder-gentler-image-modernism-tradition-and-the-orange-order-redesign/

[lightgiver]

SAS iranian embassy siege london 1980 - YouTube
http://youtu.be/yuxk2K5JxLw

Frontline SAS SBS in Afghanistan (Amazing footage) - YouTube
http://youtu.be/RPOXW8lNW6Q

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=162415&page=93

[littleweed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuxk2K5JxLw&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/yuxk2K5JxLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPOXW8lNW6Q&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/RPOXW8lNW6Q

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=162415&page=93

What exactly is your point in this thread, you don't make any sense whatsoever ???????????????????? Contrary to your name, I can see no light given :confused::confused:

Could you please add some commentary along with your cutting and pasting.

[dreamscope]

Does that include your self.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060158154&postcount=92

for me to know, you to find out?

[lightgiver]

:rolleyes:

Beast of War: Lost in the Desert of Dust and Stones - YouTube
http://youtu.be/6DKMckzzyE4

Diary of a Wimpy Kid...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4267/gerryadams.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/gerryadams.jpg/)

Indian pacifist and leader Mahatma Gandhi is assassinated by Nathuram Godse.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060225465&postcount=209

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060225247&postcount=537

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1060225502#post1060225502

[lightgiver]

US Army Special Forces shooting range - YouTube
http://youtu.be/9SOUUp79nWg

by David Hunter...

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=2713&page=116

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=141992&page=15

[spolier]

I have found irish history fascinating for years, I too cannot escape the obvious that the whole conflict was manipulated. What is left of the truth is still been manipulated. There is that many parallels with the present war on terror it is scary.

Eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/18/newsid_4165000/4165719.stm
No-one in O'Brians family knew he was in the IRA, despite it been widely known that they recruit from families. He was carrying military grade explosive semtex, which is very stable and not prone to accidental detonation. The witness dies of "asthma" several months later.

Dublin '74 a 14 company operative was clocked coming through dun loghaire the day before the dublin bombings. This fact has been disapeared off the web. Ammonium nitrate is not an "unusually sophisticated explosive" and it doesn't smoke for days afterwards. There is some serous oddities about the birmingham pub bombing as well. both bombs served the same agenda to break a peace process. This is the tip of a ruddy enormous iceberg.

The colin wallace book bares repeated reference to "ultras" that don't want peace. The hidden agenda isn't very well hidden, it is also pretty clear that murder isn't beyond those pushing that agenda.

So much just seems to disapear these days from the web, from when 9/11 happened to now, i also cannot believe the amount of evidence that is disappearing.

Only someone totally hypnotised would not believe the british government terrorists are not false flagging on a grand scale.

[eternal_spirit]

The Patriot Game Lyrics
The Dubliners

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one's country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame
And it makes you a part of the patriot game.

My name is O'Hanlon, and I've just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, where I was weaned.
I learned all my life cruel England to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free;
Six counties lie under John Bull's tyranny.
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame;
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

I don't mind a bit if I shoot down police
They are lackeys for war, never guardians of peace
And yet at deserters I'm never let aim
The rebels who sold out the patriot game.

It's nearly two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
I've read of our heroes, and I wanted the same,
To play out my part in the patriot game.

And now as I lie here, my body all holes,
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those quislings who sold out the patriot game.

[decim]

S'more betterer...

The Patriot Game Lyrics
The Dubliners

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one's country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame
And it makes you a part of the patriot game.

My name is O'Hanlon, and I've just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, where I was weaned.
I learned all my life cruel Norman Barons to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free;
Six counties lie under John Bull's tyranny.
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame;
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

I don't mind a bit if I shoot down police
They are lackeys for war, never guardians of peace
And yet at deserters I'm never let aim
The rebels who sold out the patriot game.

It's nearly two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
I've read of our heroes, and I wanted the same,
To play out my part in the patriot game.

And now as I lie here, my body all holes,
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those quislings who sold out the patriot game.

[elijahb]

1930's ZIONIST paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/pantani.jpg

Irgun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1970's - 1980's IRA paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ira2.jpg

US Civil WAR flags and LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/civilflags.gif

Note the symbology of the hand grasping a rifle in the Irgun and IRA logos indicating the same zionist scumbags behind the terror organisations. Note the US civil war flags and the presence of the "rifle" and the symbolical layout of the flags. Identical to the IRA logo.

Same shit different masks

[marpat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4s8qedKiLQ

So why would the royal family allow one of their own to be blown up by an IRA bomb?

Why do people act as if youtube is some great oracle of truth?

[marpat]

1930's ZIONIST paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/pantani.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

1970's - 1980's IRA paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ira2.jpg

US Civil WAR flags and LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/civilflags.gif

Note the symbology of the hand grasping a rifle in the Irgun and IRA logos indicating the same zionist scumbags behind the terror organisations. Note the US civil war flags and the presence of the "rifle" and the symbolical layout of the flags. Identical to the IRA logo.

Same shit different masks

Its the same shit alright but not in the way you mean it

[dreamscope]

This thread stopped being about the IRA a long time ago.

Nice to see the Mods here up to their usual standards.

[lightgiver]

So why would the royal family allow one of their own to be blown up by an IRA bomb?

Why do people act as if youtube is some great oracle of truth?

Destroyed: The family aboard Shadow V, the boat blown up by the IRA...
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6155/article13009800ab35b540.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/article13009800ab35b540.jpg/)

Despite security advice and warnings from the Garda Síochána, on 27 August 1979, Mountbatten went lobster-potting and tuna fishing in a thirty-foot (10 m) wooden boat, the Shadow V, which had been moored in the harbour at Mullaghmore. IRA member Thomas McMahon had slipped onto the unguarded boat that night and attached a radio-controlled fifty-pound (23 kg) bomb. When Mountbatten was aboard en route to Donegal Bay, just a few hundred yards from the shore, the bomb was detonated. Who activated the radio-controlled bomb is not known: McMahon had been arrested earlier at a Garda checkpoint between Longford and Granard...

Assassination of Lord Mountbatten ...Mountbatten drowned while he was unconscious.
Assassination of Lord Mountbatten - YouTube
http://youtu.be/4gEMTc9uRzE

On hearing of Mountbatten's death, the then Master of the Queen's Music, Malcolm Williamson, was moved to write the Lament in Memory of Lord Mountbatten of Burma for violin and string orchestra. The 11-minute work was given its first performance on 5 May 1980 by the Scottish Baroque Ensemble, conducted by Leonard Friedman.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/hampshire/low/people_and_places/history/newsid_8219000/8219723.stm

[dreamscope]

Despite security advice and warnings from the Garda Síochána, on 27 August 1979, Mountbatten went lobster-potting and tuna fishing in a thirty-foot (10 m) wooden boat, the Shadow V, which had been moored in the harbour at Mullaghmore. IRA member Thomas McMahon had slipped onto the unguarded boat that night and attached a radio-controlled fifty-pound (23 kg) bomb. When Mountbatten was aboard en route to Donegal Bay, just a few hundred yards from the shore, the bomb was detonated. Who activated the radio-controlled bomb is not known: McMahon had been arrested earlier at a Garda checkpoint between Longford and Granard...


How do they know it was radio-controlled? How far down did they have to dive to find the receiver? Because it sure as heck wouldn't have floated. Not that it matters anyway.

Remind me again why they wanted him dead? I thought he was blown up in a car bomb?

[humanspirit]

regarding the Mountbatten's.

Did they have a claim to the throne or did the child onboard have a claim to the throne?

Seems way over the top and complicated way to kill someone.

A bullet is so much easier and gets the target intended rather than the women and children onboard.

Very suspect.:confused:

[jon galt]

1930's ZIONIST paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/pantani.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

1970's - 1980's IRA paramilitary organisation LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ira2.jpg

US Civil WAR flags and LOGO

http://urbanshakedowns.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/civilflags.gif

Note the symbology of the hand grasping a rifle in the Irgun and IRA logos indicating the same zionist scumbags behind the terror organisations. Note the US civil war flags and the presence of the "rifle" and the symbolical layout of the flags. Identical to the IRA logo.

Same shit different masks


militant groups using images of guns in symbolism? now that is a big conspiracy........

[kennybhoy67]

The IRA was infiltrated by British double agents,moles even found their way into the security,one such agents job in the IRA was to root out and kill informers.

I have no doubt either,that such double agents,and traitors to this day are at the highest levels of Sinn Fein.

The majority of this thread though,is pretty lame.No offence,but lack of knowledge on the North,and The Troubles is apparent.

And that "IRA logo",is actually INLA.

[jon galt]

the ira had no solid leadership as far as i am aware. its form has changed and break away splinter groups have emerged since 1916. sure such groups have been infiltrated at times but at the hight of its public support, was made up off people who were angry at how they were being treated by the brittish establishment, brittish army and a loyalist police force. so i doubt the queen had any great infulence, if any at all on them.
i got irish family both catholic and protestant and for the most part do not approve of any violence on both sides. that and that militants on both sides should stop raising funds through the sale of heroin and weapons. ireland has moved beyond all this now and all the arguments can be settled politically

[lightgiver]

regarding the Mountbatten's.

Did they have a claim to the throne or did the child onboard have a claim to the throne?

Seems way over the top and complicated way to kill someone.

A bullet is so much easier and gets the target intended rather than the women and children onboard.

Very suspect.:confused:

Maybe no one died...and it was a set up...probably spent the rest of his days living on some nice sunny Island in the Far east...with Princess Margaret.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6249/magi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/magi.jpg/)

[lightgiver]

The Loyal Orange Institution is a British political secret society to which only Protestants are eligible. It was organized at Armagh, Ireland, in 1795. It was formed by Protestants in commemoration of William III, Prince of Orange's victory over James II at the Battle of the Boyne. In Britain, its objects are not only to champion the religious issues which William, Prince of Orange, represented, but to encourage loyalty to the occupant the British throne so long as he or she shall remain of the Protestant faith; to support and defend the British Government and to maintain the integrity of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The LOI was organized in Canada in 1829.

When the Institution first started there was but one degree, The Orange; in 1796 The Royal Arch Purple degree was added; later under what is known as The Royal Black Preceptory or Knights of Malta, the higher degrees-of the order, were introduced, of which there are quite a number. The Black Preceptory or Black Knights as they are sometimes called resembles in formation the Knights Templar Order in Freemasonry, and contains many of the elements of the Masonic Knights of Malta...

Batman: The Dark Knight - "Why So Serious?!" - YouTube
http://youtu.be/xxKJgOZXEho

Knight of Glin...

The Knight of Glin , also known as the Black Knight, is a hereditary title in the FitzGerald families of Limerick, Ireland since the early 14th century. The family was a branch of the FitzGerald dynasty or Geraldines, related to the Earls of Desmond (extinct), who were questionably granted extensive lands in County Limerick by the Duke of Normandy by way of conquest. The title was named after the village of Glin, near the Knight's lands.

Edward of Woodstock, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Aquitaine. The eldest son of King Edward III, father to King Richard II of England. An exepctional military leader popularly known as the "The Black Prince".

James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn, a descendant of Robert I of Scotland, lived in the late 14th and early 15th centuries.

He was a direct male line descendant of Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland, through his second son Sir John Stewart of Bonkill, who was killed at the Battle of Falkirk fighting alongside Sir William Wallace. His father Sir John Stewart (d. 26 Apr 1421) was ambassador to England and was married to Isabel MacDougall (d. 21 Dec 1439) heiress to the House of Ergadia, the senior line descending from Somerled. His mother was also a descendant of Robert I of Scotland through his second marriage to Elizabeth de Burgh.

Sir James Douglas (also known as Good Sir James and the Black Douglas), (circa 1286 – August 25, 1330), was a Scottish soldier and knight who fought in the Scottish Wars of Independence.

He was the eldest son of Sir William Douglas, known as "le Hardi" or "the bold", who had been the first noble supporter of William Wallace (the elder Douglas died circa 1298, a prisoner in the Tower of London). His mother was Elizabeth Stewart, the daughter of Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland, who died circa 1287 or early 1288. His father remarried in late 1288 so Douglas' birth had to be prior to that; however, the destruction of records in Scotland makes an exact date or even year impossible to pinpoint.

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/orange.html

http://mill-valley.freemasonry.biz/marin_hibernians_orangemen_royal_black_knights.htm

[jordan7455]

the ira had no solid leadership as far as i am aware. its form has changed and break away splinter groups have emerged since 1916. sure such groups have been infiltrated at times but at the hight of its public support, was made up off people who were angry at how they were being treated by the brittish establishment, brittish army and a loyalist police force. so i doubt the queen had any great infulence, if any at all on them.
i got irish family both catholic and protestant and for the most part do not approve of any violence on both sides. that and that militants on both sides should stop raising funds through the sale of heroin and weapons. ireland has moved beyond all this now and all the arguments can be settled politically

It changed its structure circa 1980 from Battalion to cell structure to make infiltration harder. This enabled it to sustain itself through the 80's and into the 90's. Inter County/Brigade actions would resume in a limited capacity in the 90's when 'The City' was identified as the prime target, i.e. London financial district. The large bombs at 2,000-4,000lbs took co-ordinated management. Their idea was to force banking insurance to consider a more safe environ (I.e. not London). Canary Wharf, the Baltic Exchange etc drew negotiations. This was timely for the PIRA as it was losing traction with its sustained campaign. In the 90's the only Brigade/County that had actually increased in successful attacks was South Armagh.

Its wrong to assume that MI5 controls the PIRA. However, I've heard several times that they control the RIRA.

MI5 and the PIRA are in a current mini intelligence war. The last PSNI officer killed by Dissidents, I've heard, was a PIRA member who was attempting to infiltrate the PSNI. MI5 reciprocated by having the RIRA, which they basically control, kill Ronan Kerr. Such an action is a behind-the-scenes shot across the bow by MI5 to the PIRA. I.e. two can play this game.

The PIRA is very much still intact, an independent entity. It has been armed by the Putin regime, this was exposed by the Telegraph in 03 I believe. The Russians quickly denounced it. I suspect this is still ongoing, if the Provos are still being mentored by Putins regime today despite that leak in 2003, I suspect we wouldn't know about it anyway. One of the arms consignments the Russians gave the IRA as recently as 2006 was AN-94 assault rifles used by Spetznaz. I wonder if this is a response to MI6 meddling, e.g. the Letvenyenko scandal.

[kennybhoy67]

It changed its structure circa 1980 from Battalion to cell structure to make infiltration harder. This enabled it to sustain itself through the 80's and into the 90's. Inter County/Brigade actions would resume in a limited capacity in the 90's when 'The City' was identified as the prime target, i.e. London financial district. The large bombs at 2,000-4,000lbs took co-ordinated management. Their idea was to force banking insurance to consider a more safe environ (I.e. not London). Canary Wharf, the Baltic Exchange etc drew negotiations. This was timely for the PIRA as it was losing traction with its sustained campaign. In the 90's the only Brigade/County that had actually increased in successful attacks was South Armagh.

Its wrong to assume that MI5 controls the PIRA. However, I've heard several times that they control the RIRA.

MI5 and the PIRA are in a current mini intelligence war. The last PSNI officer killed by Dissidents, I've heard, was a PIRA member who was attempting to infiltrate the PSNI. MI5 reciprocated by having the RIRA, which they basically control, kill Ronan Kerr. Such an action is a behind-the-scenes shot across the bow by MI5 to the PIRA. I.e. two can play this game.

The PIRA is very much still intact, an independent entity. It has been armed by the Putin regime, this was exposed by the Telegraph in 03 I believe. The Russians quickly denounced it. I suspect this is still ongoing, if the Provos are still being mentored by Putins regime today despite that leak in 2003, I suspect we wouldn't know about it anyway. One of the arms consignments the Russians gave the IRA as recently as 2006 was AN-94 assault rifles used by Spetznaz. I wonder if this is a response to MI6 meddling, e.g. the Letvenyenko scandal.

The Provisionals are not still active.Many Republicans and supporters of the PIRA and Sinn Fein still beleive that they are lurking in the dark,waiting to see how the peace process goes but it's false.

The structure and weapons are gone,recruting stopped and so did training.

[jordan7455]

The Provisionals are not still active.Many Republicans and supporters of the PIRA and Sinn Fein still beleive that they are lurking in the dark,waiting to see how the peace process goes but it's false.

The structure and weapons are gone,recruting stopped and so did training.

I think you're out of touch. The Army Council is still active. It is still recruiting and it is in an intelligence struggle against MI5. Additionally, the PIRA defended the Chapel in Ardoyne last summer from the UVF, it also had a show of strength in Derry in 2010.

Check out Gardai statements to the Independent, they confirm it.

[entrangermercenary]

I think you're out of touch. The Army Council is still active. It is still recruiting and it is in an intelligence struggle against MI5. Additionally, the PIRA defended the Chapel in Ardoyne last summer from the UVF, it also had a show of strength in Derry in 2010.

Check out Gardai statements to the Independent, they confirm it.

Well some body is very active, hence the deployment of personel from certain UK military units last year.!!!

[zegzy]

This is a very flippant statement:

Lightgiver: "The vast majority of Scottish Jews are Ashkenazi."



The vast majority of Scottish Jews are Ashkenazi.



Are you a disinfo-agent?

The truth is that the Jewish presence in Scotland has never been great in numerical terms, always less than half of one percent of the population, and although individual Jews have lived in Scotland for a little over three hundred years the largest Jewish communities in Edinburgh and Glasgow are less than two hundred years old.

Despite their shared belief, the ethnic origins of Jews in Scotland are diverse, and there are three principal groupings:

• Sephardim– properly of Iberian origin, although the term is often used to include those of other Mediterranean, Arabian and North African origin. Ladino is a Hispanic language with Hebrew admixtures which was common to many Sephardim especially from the Balkans and Turkey.

• Eastern Communities – sometimes also loosely referred to as Sephardim, with origins in Asia or the Arabian Peninsula and including smaller groups such as the Jews of Ethiopia, and the Bnei Israel and Cochin Jews of India.

• Ashkenazim – whose ancestry is in Central and Eastern Europe and Russia. Yiddish is a Germanic language with Slavic and Hebrew admixtures which was widely spoken by Eastern European Jews.

Although there are more Sephardic than Askenazi Jews in Israel, the reverse is the case worldwide, as the Jewish communities of the USA, Canada, and the UK are substantially Ashkenazi. Cutting across these ethnic groups there are distinct denominations that have different understandings of the status of the Torah and of Jewish law:

• Orthodox – The principles of Orthodox x Judaism have not changed significantly since Biblical times, since they presuppose that the Torah as interpreted in the Talmud was given directly by God. Within Orthodox Judaism there are two main groupings: the Charedim, or so-called ‘Strictly Orthodox’, and the Modern Orthodox. The latter participate more in secular activities than do Charedi Jews, but are nevertheless faithful to traditional religious practices. The Charedim are one of the largest and most conservative movements, with several subsections including various groups of Chassidim. They tend to reject many aspects of modern life, and, for example, generally wear traditional clothing, whereas the Modern Orthodox engage more with the modern world, for example by entering secular employment.

• Reform – The Reform movement rejects much of Orthodox practice while retaining many of the underlying teachings of Judaism. Unlike Orthodox movements it allows women to be ordained as rabbis, permits men and women to sit together in the synagogue, and regards cremation as acceptable.

• Conservative – known in Britain as Masorti (Traditional): This movement began as a reaction to Reform Judaism in the United States, and although based on a more Liberal understanding of traditional texts, it still retains many Orthodox practices.

• Liberal – Liberal Judaism views the Torah as a product of its time rather than as the literal word of God, and therefore subject to change. Liberal Jews do not attach great significance to traditional codes for dress and diet but regard them as a matter of choice. In addition there are a number of Jews who regard Judaism as having less to do with faith than with cultural identity, but many of these still identify very closely with the Jewish community and observe its cultural traditions.

[eternal_spirit]

I think the Irish have the least Jews of all. Read so somewhere.

[eternal_spirit]

eirael :(

An Irish blog defending and affirming the merit of Western values (of various persuasions) with an emphasis on defending the right to legitimately criticise faiths on ideological grounds as a right of free speech, and to defend Israel against the intensive campaign to demonise and destroy the State. No religion or nation should be above criticism but neither should any state or people be subjected to sustained abusive condemnation with a destructive intent that clearly exceeds what is evidential

blah

Reuven Rivlin, the parliamentary speaker of Israel’s Knesset, recently visited Ireland in an official capacity. The visit was of significance because the two nations have had a difficult relationship for a long time, largely due to persistent Irish criticism of the Jewish State over the previous decades. Some background to the visit is dealt with in an earlier article.

There were some predictions that the visit could be a difficult ride for Mr. Rivlin, as was suggested in the press release on the Knesset website:
This week Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin leaves for an official reciprocal visit to Ireland, despite the shadow of critical and even hostile attitudes towards Israel prevailing in Irish media and public opinion.
The opinion was understandable. There is a genuine and sometimes baffling hostility expressed by a significant number of Irish people toward Israel. This even includes a substantial contingent of the Irish parliament itself. Surprisingly however, the visit has been portrayed as a positive experience, and has yielded a number of developments! The visit’s status was upgraded. Mr. Rivlin stayed in the official guesthouse for visiting dignitaries, and unexpectedly he also met with President Michael D. Higgins.

http://eirael.blogspot.com/

[zegzy]

I think the Irish have the least Jews of all. Read so somewhere.

The vast majority of Scots and Irish are off the same kin, hence the reason why they have often been played against each other by Rome and its agents using the millennium old "divide and conquer" strategy. To this very day, they have not conquered the Scots or Irish and they never will.

[eternal_spirit]

The vast majority of Scots and Irish are off the same kin, hence the reason why they have often been played against each other by Rome and its agents using the millennium old "divide and conquer" strategy. To this very day, they have not conquered the Scots or Irish and they never will.
Its been suggested the first people to ever populate Scotland came from Ireland.

Orange Lodge Masons Loyalists Israel etc etc
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060278032&postcount=7

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060314008&postcount=40

[entrangermercenary]

The vast majority of Scots and Irish are off the same kin, hence the reason why they have often been played against each other by Rome and its agents using the millennium old "divide and conquer" strategy. To this very day, they have not conquered the Scots or Irish and they never will.

Hey don't mince your words.......are you saying they are all inbred fuckers :eek: :p:)
jk

My Dads Irish :p

[eternal_spirit]

Hey don't mince your words.......are you saying they are all inbred fuckers :eek: :p:)
jk

My Dads Irish :p

You ain't really human unless you got a bit of Irish in you and if you ain't got a bit in you I'll put some in you (oops forgot you're a bloke) Scottish firewater ha d me confused for mo. :p

[zegzy]

Hey don't mince your words.......are you saying they are all inbred fuckers :eek: :p:)
jk

My Dads Irish :p

lol! No that is not what i am saying, not at all. What i mean by kin is kin·ship (k n sh p ). Connection by blood, marriage, or adoption; family relationship. To be specific, Relationship by nature or character; affinity. :D

[zegzy]

What country do you live in Lightgiver? Just wondered.

Edit - Answer appreciated. Cheers buddy. :)

"Lightgiver" lives in Buckingham Palace going by the looks of her posts around the forum!...or maybe she is at "her majesty's" service and takes her job very seriously.

She is definitely not a "lightgiver", she very rarely ever gives a straight answer to any of the simple questions that many members of this forum ask her in relation to her "copy and paste" posts and yet she has been "copying and pasting" on threads on this forum for a very long time.

lightgiver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 22,154

Anyone who pretends to know as much as she does about the past troubles of Northern Ireland in reality either knows nothing other than hearsay or too much due to being involved in some way in the shit-stirring that went on there. Having now read through the entire thread, it is good to see that so many other members of the forum can see right through her bullshit. :)

[lightgiver]

it is good to see that so many other members of the forum can see right through her bullshit. :)

One things for sure I can see through your facade and Propaganda agenda...

You ain't really human unless you got a bit of Irish in you and if you ain't got a bit in you I'll put some in you (oops forgot you're a bloke) Scottish firewater ha d me confused for mo. :p

Yeah ES hes got a bit of everything in him...when it suits the debate.

hows those ancestral spirits doing ...

[zegzy]

What country do you live in Lightgiver? Just wondered. :)

"Lightgiver" lives in Buckingham Palace going by the looks of her posts around the forum!...or maybe she is at "her majesty's" service and takes her job very seriously.

She is definitely not a "lightgiver", she very rarely ever gives a straight answer to any of the simple questions that many members of this forum ask her in relation to her "copy and paste" posts and yet she has been "copying and pasting" on threads on this forum for a very long time.

Anyone who pretends to know as much as she does about the past troubles of Northern Ireland in reality either knows nothing other than hearsay or too much due to being involved in some way in the shit-stirring that went on there. Having now read through the entire thread, it is good to see that so many other members of the forum can see right through her bullshit. :)
One things for sure I can see through your facade and Propaganda agenda...

:rolleyes:

.....says the forums most prolific peddler and copy/paster of propaganda. Accusing your accuser of your doings, you'll have to come up with something original as opposed to that for your defence! Everyone reading your posts on this thread can see you for what you are.

[lightgiver]

:rolleyes:

.....says the forums most prolific peddler and copy/paster of propaganda. Accusing your accuser of your doings, you'll have to come up with something original as opposed to that for your defence! Everyone reading your posts on this thread can see you for what you are.

I am imparting info that can be cross referenced ..unlike yourself who post nothing but insults...for what you are..BOO HOO...

Is that it...where is your info relating to the thread :confused:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Cross_%26_Crown.png

Degrees

The Royal Black Preceptory consists of eleven degrees, as follows: -

(1) Royal Black Degree
(2) Royal Scarlet Degree
(3) Royal Mark Degree
(4) Apron and Royal Blue Degree
(5) Royal White Degree
(6) Royal Green Degree
(7) Gold Degree
(8) Star and Garter Degree
(9) Crimson Arrow Degree
(10) Link and Chain Degree
(11) Red Cross Degree

The Black Preceptory is also known as the Royal Black Institution, a name that sounds worrisome enough. This quorum includes judges, police executives, clergymen, senior intellectuals and academics, and men who run major corporations in Ireland and elsewhere. The Preceptory's senior members have the power to change government policy on a local and even national level.

They reward selected lieutenants in the public limelight for furthering their agendas and see to it that other men who do not fall into lockstep are removed from professional positions. The Preceptory has the power to cover up heinous politically-motivated crimes, sequester evidence so that complicit "brothers" remain unprosecuted, and prevent official investigations into the criminal activities of their members. Additionally, members of the Preceptory and Orange Order (journalists, reporters, and editors, and so on) can bias reportage in any manner desired.

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Ulster's murder gangs

ON Monday, the world was stunned by the release of a report by Nuala O'Loan, the police ombudsman for Northern Ireland, which stated that Special Branch officers in Belfast had "colluded" with loyalist terrorists working for the British state as informers. According to O'Loan, police failed to stop these paramilitary gangs, part of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) from killing an estimated 15 people in the 1990s. While this was seized upon by republicans as proof that security forces had aided a loyalist campaign of sectarian assassination, in reality O'Loan's findings barely scratched the surface of a 30-year history of criminality and murder orchestrated by the British army and the Ulster police...as well has the IRA....Indeed, studying the history of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) is both interesting and revealing. It is a study that has, in the end, less to do with politics and more to do with secret orders and hidden agendas.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/how-britain-created-ulster-s-murder-gangs-1.834481

[zegzy]

I am imparting info......

Your "info" very often contains disinformation hence my reason for calling you out on what you are persistently doing on this thread and many others.

Why do you enlarge so much of the writing in your copy and paste posts? Do you think that people are more likely to believe the disinformation that is also contained in your copy/pastes it if it is enlarged? lol!

[lightgiver]

Your "info" very often contains disinformation hence my reason for calling you out on what you are persistently doing on this thread and many others.

It can all be cross referenced...unlike yours ..because you do not post any...

[zegzy]

Your "info" very often contains disinformation hence my reason for calling you out on what you are persistently doing on this thread and many others.

Why do you enlarge so much of the writing in your copy and paste posts? Do you think that people are more likely to believe the disinformation that is also contained in your copy/pastes it if it is enlarged? lol!
It can all be cross referenced...

Cross referenced and verified to contain disinformation, yes it can.

[lightgiver]

Cross referenced and verified to contain disinformation yes it can.

Prove it then...

[zegzy]

Prove it then...

I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore. What i am going to do is join the ever growing number of members of the forum who have placed your name on their ignore lists using the ignore function so as they don't see your posts ever again on the forum. You'll be the first name to be placed on it permanently. Good riddance. ;) :D

[lightgiver]

I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore. What i am going to do is join the ever growing number of members of the forum who have placed your name on their ignore lists using the ignore function so as they don't see your posts ever again on the forum. You'll be the first name to be placed on it permanently. Good riddance. ;) :D

Still no proof of anything or anything relating to thread title I see.:)

[kennybhoy67]

I think you're out of touch. The Army Council is still active. It is still recruiting and it is in an intelligence struggle against MI5. Additionally, the PIRA defended the Chapel in Ardoyne last summer from the UVF, it also had a show of strength in Derry in 2010.

Check out Gardai statements to the Independent, they confirm it.

You're mistaken mate.

Sinn Fein call on the community to inform on the Dissident groups,they sit in Stormont and help administer British rule in Ireland.They are involved in an intelligence struggle against their old Comrades and people who don't follow Gerry and Martys vision.

The Provos are not fucking active,if there was any proof that they were Stormont and the Peace agreement would fall apart in days.

[jordan7455]

You're mistaken mate.

Sinn Fein call on the community to inform on the Dissident groups,they sit in Stormont and help administer British rule in Ireland.They are involved in an intelligence struggle against their old Comrades and people who don't follow Gerry and Martys vision.

The Provos are not fucking active,if there was any proof that they were Stormont and the Peace agreement would fall apart in days.

The Sunday Times quoted a senior Garda intelligence officer as saying that "the IRA had recruited in recent years, still held arms despite apparently decommissioning the lot, and was being maintained in 'shadow form.'" The Gardaí also said that the IRA was still capable of carrying out attacks.

A senior member of the PSNI, Assistant Chief Constable Peter Sheridan, said that it was unlikely that the IRA would disband in the foreseeable future.[137]

At the end of March 2010, SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley said that the IRA were still active and that they had been responsible for a number of incidents in his constituency including a punishment shooting and an armed robbery during which a shot was fired.[138]

In August 2010, the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, the Republican Network for Unity and the UPRG, claimed that the IRA were responsible for a shooting incident in the Gobnascale area of Derry. It is claimed that up to 20 masked men, some armed with handguns, attacked a group of teenagers who were engaging in anti-social behaviour at an interface area. A number of the teenagers were attacked and shots were fired into the air. The men are then reported to have removed their masks when the PSNI arrived and were subsequently identified as members of the Republican Movement. Sinn Féin denied the IRA were involved.[139][140][141]

Last Summer the Provisional IRA defended a Chapel full of Nationalists in the Ardoyne and repulsed an armed UVF mob, firing from defensive positions on the roof of the building.

[lightgiver]

The Warrington bombings were two separate bombing attacks that happened during early 1993 in Warrington, England. The first attack happened in February when a bomb exploded at a district pressure gas storage facility. It caused extensive damage but no injuries; however, a police officer was shot and injured by one of the bombers. The second attack happened in March on Bridge Street. Two small bombs exploded in litter bins outside a Boots store and a McDonald's restaurant, killing two children and injuring many other people. Although a warning or warnings had been sent, the area was not evacuated in time.

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Shortly before midday on 20 March 1993, telephone help charity The Samaritans received a coded message that a bomb was going to be detonated outside the Boots shop in Liverpool, about 15 miles (24 km) away from Warrington.One exploded outside Boots and McDonalds, showering fifty children in the restaurant with glass, and one outside the Argos catalogue store. The area was crowded with shoppers. Witnesses said that "the first explosion drove panicking shoppers into the path of the next blast just seconds later". It was later found that the bombs had been placed inside cast-iron litter bins, causing large amounts of shrapnel.

Three-year-old Johnathan Ball died at the scene, while his babysitter survived. The second victim, 12-year-old Tim Parry, who received the full force of the blast, was gravely wounded.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060765711&postcount=88

Warrington bomb attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060782050&postcount=323

[lightgiver]

http://s19.postimage.org/dqw7jos1f/Bridge_Street_Warrington_geograph_org_uk_5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Site of the second bombing...

http://s19.postimage.org/fu6mrcrub/werewolf1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

The saint is represented beyond an arch, which rises from a base just under two meters from the ground.

http://s19.postimage.org/mn6znminn/mariamaddalena700.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

A confusion can be seen at the left base, which seems covered by a drape of the saint's green dress.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060245621&postcount=124
Piero della Francesca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060827328&postcount=148

[kennybhoy67]

Last Summer the Provisional IRA defended a Chapel full of Nationalists in the Ardoyne and repulsed an armed UVF mob, firing from defensive positions on the roof of the building.

Apologies,I totally forgot about this thread.Possibly former members of the Provos,but not actions of the Provisional IRA,who have disbanded and decomissioned.