Ibs

[darryl84]

I was wondering how the shen clinic would go about treating Irritable Bowel Syndrome, what perspective would it be looked at from and how would it generally be treated so that the cause is fixed rather than the symptom/s?

I know this is a general problem, but i am hoping because of how the bowel region is merely a smaller version of the whole holographically i would be able to get some good ideas on where to look for solutions. I would love to visit the clinic, but it is a bit far away with my current financial situation, but my intent is to have that changed soon. :)

[madthumbs]

Does Dairy trigger it? I'd try eliminating foods one by one and seeing if one may be the trigger.

[darryl84]

I've changed my diet, lots of fibre, still issues, thinking maybe there was a connection with the back, i know its hard to gauge a general diagnostic from words on the internet, but i guess i was hoping for a few technique tips from mike lambert on how solutions would be found... oh well.

[kiwimaj]

I've changed my diet, lots of fibre, still issues, thinking maybe there was a connection with the back, i know its hard to gauge a general diagnostic from words on the internet, but i guess i was hoping for a few technique tips from mike lambert on how solutions would be found... oh well.

Hi Darryl

Partner has IBS, have found the symptoms great reduce by cutting back or out of..

Alcohol
Spicy Foods
Chillis, dried, powdered variety..cayenne especially.
Dairy
Anything that has a sharp edge, which can pierce the side of the colon as the foods are exiting, hence bleeding, so make sure you chew, chew chew

Peanuts, especially dry roasted variety

Stress is also a trigger, stress i.e. becoming overly acidic due to stress.


If you research the PH Diet, and alkalinity v acidity, that is a mine of helpful info. Alot of illness is usually due to over acidity.

Hope that helps !

:)

[darryl84]

Thanks for the advice, i was hoping for mike's view, but since it doesn't look likely, i guess this thread might aswell be deleted, moderator?

[mikelambert]

I was wondering how the shen clinic would go about treating Irritable Bowel Syndrome, what perspective would it be looked at from and how would it generally be treated so that the cause is fixed rather than the symptom/s?

I know this is a general problem, but i am hoping because of how the bowel region is merely a smaller version of the whole holographically i would be able to get some good ideas on where to look for solutions. I would love to visit the clinic, but it is a bit far away with my current financial situation, but my intent is to have that changed soon. :)

The majority of IBS is Stress/Emotion related in our experience. There are of course cases where other issues exist, so it always pays to get it checked out. Naturally there can be food issues too, but generally it is stress/emotion driven. Once we have established that we are not dealing with anything that might require further investigation, we normally go for bowel calming herbal formulas. You may wish to go to www.naturopharma.com and check out the bowel formulas by reading through the fact sheets. However the stress/emotional issues have to be dealt with (if this is what it is), and we try to offer solutions to assist in a recovery. An interesting thing about emotional driven symptoms is this - we understand it if we have a thought of a stressful or emotional nature which triggers a physical response such as our tummy flips, or we get loose bowels. What we are not so aware of is this; a lot of our anxiety problems can be held within the sub-conscious mind, and we may not experience the thought, but only the symptom. Hence some people say when asked if everything is OK, that things are fine (and they may be in their awareness), because they are not consciously aware of the issues, but the symptoms keep surfacing. A thought with a symptom - A thought with no symptom. A symptom with no thought. IBS can be the manifestation one of these, or at least we would give this some consideration in all cases.
Another thing we find also, is the affects that taking medication can have on the bowel, and of course there are many other reasons for the existence of IBS type symptoms. But the last word Syndrome sums it up for me, meaning it can be a combination of many factors. This is why if you intend to talk to a practitioner about it, make sure you see one who has the experience to see beyond their speciality. People often confuse qualification with education, and they may not be the same thing.

[darryl84]

Thanks for the reply mike, very helpful. :)

[kiwimaj]

The majority of IBS is Stress/Emotion related in our experience. There are of course cases where other issues exist, so it always pays to get it checked out. Naturally there can be food issues too, but generally it is stress/emotion driven. Once we have established that we are not dealing with anything that might require further investigation, we normally go for bowel calming herbal formulas. You may wish to go to www.naturopharma.com and check out the bowel formulas by reading through the fact sheets. However the stress/emotional issues have to be dealt with (if this is what it is), and we try to offer solutions to assist in a recovery. An interesting thing about emotional driven symptoms is this - we understand it if we have a thought of a stressful or emotional nature which triggers a physical response such as our tummy flips, or we get loose bowels. What we are not so aware of is this; a lot of our problems are held within the sub-conscious mind, and we may not experience the thought, but only the symptom. Hence some people say when asked if everything is OK, that things are fine (and they may be in their awareness), because they are not consciously aware of the issues, but the symptoms keep surfacing. A thought with a symptom - A thought with no symptom. A symptom with no thought. IBS can be the manifestation one of these, or at least we would give this some consideration in all cases.
Another thing we find also, is the affects that taking medication can have on the bowel, and of course there are many other reasons for the existence of IBS type symptoms. But the last word Syndrome sums it up for me, meaning it can be a combination of many factors. This is why if you intend to talk to a practitioner about it, make sure you see one who has the experience to see beyond their speciality. People often confuse qualification with education, and they may not be the same thing.

Great response Mike. :)

I agree with the emotional aspect of it.

When I met my partner he had horrendous IBS, but he was on quite an unhealthy diet, sometimes just haveing a bag of dry roasted nuts for dinner, eat spicy curries and drink copious amounts of alcohol on a daily basis.

Since cutting out the nuts, drastically reducing his drinking and steering clear of things with chillies, he very rarely suffers. Also, certain real ales can be a trigger. If any of the symptoms return (which is rare) he can now pinpoint with accuracy what the cause is. So it's important to keep a diary of your daily intake, both food, drink and emotions/thoughts for that day. Then if you do suffer you can look back at the diary and check out what you had that may have triggered it.

I abosultely agree with the emotional/thought trigger, if he is unduly stressed, from a very deep level, he will suffer.

I also new someone else who would come over with bouts of IBS that were DIRECTLY due to emotional triggers. I also mentioned acidity. When you are stressed you will make your body acidic, which can also trigger all sorts of health issues.

So what I have found is get your diet right AND your emotions and you are on you way to not having IBS control you life, but the other way round.

[darryl84]

I've done some research that is connected to the useful link you posted mike, and i have decided to take one teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate a day (i might raise it to two), to help alkaline my body's ph, along with minimizing acidic foods and eating as much organic alkaline and high in salvestrol foods as possible. Does this seem like a good place to start and do you have anything further to suggest to this initial diet direction i have undertook?

[ekim]

Have you looked into Kefir?

[darryl84]

Have you looked into Kefir?

Thanks for the tip, although im avoiding dairy at the moment, and the yeast in kefir doesn't appeal to me too much aswell. :)

[mikelambert]

I've done some research that is connected to the useful link you posted mike, and i have decided to take one teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate a day (i might raise it to two), to help alkaline my body's ph, along with minimizing acidic foods and eating as much organic alkaline and high in salvestrol foods as possible. Does this seem like a good place to start and do you have anything further to suggest to this initial diet direction i have undertook?

You might consider using naturopharma.com - Naturo-Digestizymes. This product has good reviews for IBS.

[ekim]

Thanks for the tip, although im avoiding dairy at the moment, and the yeast in kefir doesn't appeal to me too much aswell. :)

Kefir can be made with other liquids like juice or even water, and the longer it ferments the more yeast it creates but also more micronutrients, but even after just 2 days there are many benifits. To get away from the yeast taste I use it in fruit smoothies.

[mikelambert]

I've done some research that is connected to the useful link you posted mike, and i have decided to take one teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate a day (i might raise it to two), to help alkaline my body's ph, along with minimizing acidic foods and eating as much organic alkaline and high in salvestrol foods as possible. Does this seem like a good place to start and do you have anything further to suggest to this initial diet direction i have undertook?

Naturo- Digestizymes from naturopharma.com is a good product. You might consider giving it a go.

[madgoone]

Parasites are a major cause of ibs aswell ! if you eat meat you got em wether you like it or not.ITS NOT A THIRD WORLD PROBLEM ONLY trust me.Also every person who had cancer tested by Dr Hulda Clark had parasites.

beef -round worm
pork- tapeworm
lamb-intestinal flukes
fish -tapeworm
pets-dog tapeworm ,dog heart worm,toxoplasmosis from cats(love em)
snails-liver flukes,make sure veg washed properly

I'm on a parasite cleanse and ibs has gone,parasites stress the colon causing ibs and Many other symptoms


HOW & WHY PARASITES MAKE US SICK
Before you read over the following list of symptoms, you need to understand how and why parasites make us sick. Parasites are the HIDDEN DISEASE, they can occur ANYWHERE in the body, in EVERY organ, in ALL tissues, and in the blood. Parasites can cause problems that mimic other disorders and are not diagnosed as being parasite related.

Not only do they cause harm by taking nutrients away from their host, they also produce toxic waste (from their excrement and death cycles) that affects the human body including the central nervous system. For example: Parasite urine is pure ammonia! If you nor your doctor can't figure out why you’re not feeling 100%, then please continue to read!!


The Symptoms of Parasite Infections

STOMACH & INTESTINAL COMPLICATIONS – The sheer number of parasites in the lower digestive system and the toxic waste produced by them can cause these problems:

Diarrhea
Chronic Constipation
Gas & Bloating
Digestive Problems
Excessive Early Bowel Movements (very explosive bowel movements very soon after eating)
Abdominal Pain
Mucus in the Stools
Leaky Gut
Nausea
Hemorrhoids
Burning in the Stomach
Bloody Stools


FATIGUE - The toxic metabolic waste overloads and overworks the organs of elimination and taxes the central nervous system causing:

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Low Energy
Lethargy
Excessive Weakness


SKIN DISORDERS & ALLERGIES – Parasites that penetrate the skin cause itching. When tissue becomes inflamed from these parasites, the body’s white blood cells increase to defend the body. This reaction causes skin rashes and food allergies to appear. Parasites also create toxins and the skin, being the largest organ, tries to remove these toxins which causes many skin problems. Symptoms include:

Dry Skin
Dry Hair
Brittle Hair
Hair Loss
Allergies
Itchy Nose
Itchy Anus
Itchy Skin
Hives
Allergic Reactions to Food
Crawling Sensation Under the Skin
Rashes
Weeping Eczema
Cutaneous Ulcers
Papular Lesions
Swelling
Sores

MOOD & ANXIETY PROBLEMS – Once again, it’s the toxic metabolic waste produced by the parasites that attack the central nervous system causing:

Mood Swings
Nervousness
Depression
Forgetfulness
Unclear Thinking
Restlessness
Anxiety
Slow Reflexes

SLEEP DISTURBANCES – The physical presence of the parasites themselves are a nuisance to the human body. The body reacts to them during periods of rest, this in turn produces:
Insomnia
Teeth Grinding During Sleep
Bed Wetting
Drooling While Asleep
Disturbed Sleep – Multiple Awakenings

WEIGHT & APPETITE PROBLEMS – Parasites live undetected by their hosts. They rob the body of all essential nutrients (they get the choicest nutrition from the food you eat) and you are left with the fats, sugars, etc. Many overweight persons are infested with parasites, they stay hungry which leads to overeating because of the parasites. Depending on the type of parasite infestation, many people are malnourished, they can’t gain weight, again, because of the parasites. This is why parasites cause:

Weight Gain
Long-Standing Obesity
Loss of Appetite OR
Uncontrollable Hunger Eating More Than Normal BUT Still Feeling Hungry
Inability to Gain or Lose Weight


MUSCLE & JOINT COMPLAINTS – Parasites can travel to almost all soft tissue including in the joints and muscles where they cause cysts and inflammation that is commonly mistaken as arthritis and muscle pain. The toxins from parasites can also pool in the joints and in muscle tissue causing:

Muscle Pain
Joint Pain
Muscle Cramping
Numbness of the Hands and/or Feet
Heart Pain
Pain in The Navel
Pain in the Back, Thighs or Shoulders
Arthritic Pains
Fast Heartbeat

BLOOD DISORDERS – The parasites get the good vitamins, including iron, leading to:
Hypoglycemia
Anemia

SEXUAL & REPRODUCTIVE PROBLEMS – With a weakened immune system caused by parasites and their waste you also can experience:

Male Impotence
Erectile Dysfunction
PMS
Candida – Yeast Infections
Urinary Tract Infections
Cysts & Fibroids
Menstrual Problems
Prostate Problems
Water Retention

OTHER SYMPTOMS – More health problems caused by parasites:

Excessive Saliva
Unclear Vision
Bad Breath
Poor Immune Response
Fever
Respiratory Problems
Peritonitis
Chronic Viral or Bacterial Symptoms
Body Odor

[joannex]

darryl84 how are you going to address the stress/emotional aspect of the ibs? Diet is important but I think finding relaxation and coping techniques for stressful situations is also vital.

[lordzoma]

It's easy to deal with IBS!!!

The previous post explaining how most IBS is caused by parasites is proof of just how easy it is to handle it!

All you need is Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth!

Do a little googling and you'll find out just how wonderful the stuff is and how it will help your stomach problems.

I drink it every day and I am certainly healthier for it!

It's also dirt cheap.

[madgoone]

I got some Diatomaceous Earth,its a powerhouse of death to parasites in the intestines:)plus you get the benefits of silicon!women take notice -better hair,skin and nails and plenty of busted up parasites that can never become resistant to it .

[joannex]

I investigated food grade diatomaceous earth and have just purchased some (thanks for alerting me to its existence), it's been 3 days, I'll see what benefits I notice in the weeks to come.

[darryl84]

darryl84 how are you going to address the stress/emotional aspect of the ibs? Diet is important but I think finding relaxation and coping techniques for stressful situations is also vital.

Im working on it, thanks for the care, i have a chill out planned. :)

[joannex]

I investigated food grade diatomaceous earth and have just purchased some (thanks for alerting me to its existence), it's been 3 days, I'll see what benefits I notice in the weeks to come.

Been taking it for 9 days and skin is really dry and I have a few spots.... that can't be right? I'll try it for a while longer in case this is some kind of detox process

[madgoone]

You will get a reaction from killing parasites in the intestine,drinking plenty of water will flush out the toxins from them otherwise the dead "stuff" will linger and the toxins will find a different root out eg skin,also i would take a break 9 days is quite long with out a rest,diatomaceous earth can have a dehydrating effect so water is you friend in most cases.

[lordzoma]

I disagree. You shouldn't take a rest but should focus on taking more and more DE. IF you started with 2 tablespoons twice a day then you're starting at a large amount. IF you started out as less build up more.

You'll really notice the effects of DE after a few months of taking it. It's by then that your blood pressure and cholesterol will have been significantly reduced / balanced.

[joannex]

I've been taking one or two teaspoons a day and have been feeling drier than usual (hair, skin, mouth), I'll up the water intake and keep going for a few more weeks. I have a belief that this will work for me so I'm sure it will!

[lordzoma]

Take more DE.

[madgoone]

Forgot to mention GLUTEN,go completely gluten free for a week or two to see if it sorts out the ibs .refined white bleached flour is a poison!

[joannex]

I took the DE for 3 weeks and no longer feel like taking it, I've started enemas as well (done 6 in 2 weeks, built up to about 14 litres of water each time) and feel a bit more energetic and cheerful. I don't eat much bread and only really feel like eating light food and raw veg and hummus.

[mikelambert]

I took the DE for 3 weeks and no longer feel like taking it, I've started enemas as well (done 6 in 2 weeks, built up to about 14 litres of water each time) and feel a bit more energetic and cheerful. I don't eat much bread and only really feel like eating light food and raw veg and hummus.


In most cases IBS is triggered by Emotion / Stress (not all of course, but most).

As soon as I can free up some time I would like to set up a separate page elsewhere via a link dealing more comprehensively with IBS.

Hopefully it will contain something for everyone. Personal experiences regarding this sort of problem are both interesting and valid, but trying to apply them to the masses is difficult, because we are all so very different and living very different lives.

At the moment I am experiencing problems with e-mails which hopefully will end following an upcoming event.