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jim fear
27-10-2007, 01:29 PM
There’s a reoccurring theme on a lot of the posts on this website. This is the use of the term “waking up”.
The problem I have with it is that a lot of different people are saying that they are “waking up” this is the “awakening” etc, but I think that the term actually means something different for different people. For example someone might refer to awaking up as becoming “politically aware” and of understanding that there are faults in the system, someone else however might be referring to a “Spiritual awaking” getting there head around the ideas behind “consciousness” and other related subjects.
Another way of looking at it is, that the political and spiritual awaking are parts of the same thing, on becoming spiritually aware people are intuitively becoming aware of the world around then and objecting to the political situation, which we currently find ourselves in.
I’m interested to see how many of us are on the same page so to speak. Personally I think the idea of been “awake” is a collective of ideas and philosophies, both spiritual and political, in which people are becoming more aware of the dangers of our excessive way of life and how we have turned our back on nature and the fact now it is calling us back, as we return to our true selves we are encountering all the obstacles which are in our way.
What does “Waking up,” mean to you as individuals?
malvern
27-10-2007, 01:44 PM
waking up. will allows us to see all... to open a new path. if we choose to walk it..... how far does one wish to go, you are in control if you choose.
freedom for all:)
lottie
27-10-2007, 01:49 PM
excellent thread- right up my street but i cant reply properly now- im not in the right frame of mind....you know when you just cant articulate yourself well?? thats me today.,....:D:rolleyes:
will defo reply asap though!:)
Just as there are different stages to sleep then there are different stages to waking up , different levels of awareness and waking up in one section of your life leads onto other parts as everything is all connected , wether you choose to explore one part of an emerging awareness or go further is a personal choice but it all leads to greater understanding of yourself and the enviroment we live in .That was my 999th post no reverse symbolism no mirrors just peace and love and pure intent .Im still waking up from last nights sleep :D Its better to wake up naturally than be distrurbed by an alarm call .:)
mr_moon
27-10-2007, 03:56 PM
"Waking up" is the Awareness of NOW and SELF. That's it. Everything else is just in the mind...
razed1
27-10-2007, 04:01 PM
awaken child
awaken to the truth
awaken to the 'lies history told foul, but im as wise as the old owl, plus the golden child'
:D
Anders Lindman
27-10-2007, 04:40 PM
My current avatar is about waking up to peak oil. I found it on Flickr. :)
Maybe there is no peak oil. Then the avatar is false, but anyway... :D:o
mountain
27-10-2007, 04:58 PM
Waking up for me was like being reborn. I used to long for things material, forgetting my life-long desires to retreat into thick forest and living among the tress. I now posess a complete different view of the "world", I see the Earth's potential beauty underneath all of the concrete and man made structures.
Have always felt that things were unbalanced and never quite comfortable with the illusion of everyone preying upon another. Now aware that I am a spiritual being that will not wither and fade away, becoming increasingly charged with every breathe I take.
Anders Lindman
27-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Maybe there is no peak oil. Then the avatar is false
But actually I do think we have reached a peak in world oil production. There are many serious indications supporting that claim. Here is one hard facts presentation:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8133306252353845122
starscream
27-10-2007, 07:13 PM
Hi this is what i think of waking up.....a person who starts to give & forgive, i believe by doing so, one is no longer bound to the animal instinct that made man vunerable to lures of short term joy which lead men to a long term destructions....a feeling of selflessness....which would eventually lead one to heaven...which i think is a place in our mind...and if one would put oneself onto others shoe to give a thought for just a moment...then i guess that place is found.....but how wide that place can be..will depend on how far one can see...through the eyes of ones heart...
nickatnoon61
27-10-2007, 08:46 PM
excellent thread- right up my street but i cant reply properly now- im not in the right frame of mind....you know when you just cant articulate yourself well?? thats me today.,....:D:rolleyes:
will defo reply asap though!:)
R U loaded again La Dee Dah????? :eek: ha ha :D Just kidding,of course! Waking up to using our Creator-given intuition gifts,more, as opposed to the easily mis-lead intellectual left-brain functions,could be one definition!?! Opening the ALL-KNOWING 3rd eye, or pineal and pituitary glands, which hold our psychic abilities? I think we are all on different levels of awareness, and that is not a bad thing,imo,but just our experiences and evolvement processes. cheers....:)
Anders Lindman
27-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Hi this is what i think of waking up.....a person who starts to give & forgive, i believe by doing so, one is no longer bound to the animal instinct that made man vunerable to lures of short term joy which lead men to a long term destructions....a feeling of selflessness....which would eventually lead one to heaven...which i think is a place in our mind...and if one would put oneself onto others shoe to give a thought for just a moment...then i guess that place is found.....but how wide that place can be..will depend on how far one can see...through the eyes of ones heart...
Hi starscream,
What you wrote made me think that waking up from animal instinct could be a form of waking up from primitive emotions. When we only wake up on a mental level, then our emotions will still be primitive. So waking up is probably needed not only on the mental level, but also on the emotional level.
nickatnoon61
27-10-2007, 08:51 PM
My current avatar is about waking up to peak oil. I found it on Flickr. :)
Maybe there is no peak oil. Then the avatar is false, but anyway... :D:o
Anders..".JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS" :D
Anders Lindman
27-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Anders..".JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS" :D
We have become addicted to oil. That's the drug we need to keep an eye on. ;)
dodie
27-10-2007, 09:15 PM
"Waking up" is the Awareness of NOW and SELF. That's it. Everything else is just in the mind...
Awakening certainly has many stages to it,so for some it represents the start of their journey and for others it represents the end of their journey.
For me jays statement represents ,where i feel i am,but say a couple of years ago,i would not have grasped the real meaning of that statement.
So basically its a journey through different states of being until you awaken the i/self within..the real you,call it soul/consciousness..the aspect that it is observing and experiencing.
I remember lottie mentioned in a thread once,how she had the urge to visit a spiritualist church,but something was stopping her..well to me that something is the first recognition of self.....that feeling that jumps in every now and then,when everything else ie thoughts and emotion are urging you to do it...and that feeling stops you.Listening to that feeling never lets you down ie ..intuition or as i call it inner tuition..it has saved my neck many a time.
When you stop reacting and responding to thoughts and emotion..and especially thoughts..as thought energy=fear vibration..the creator of the projection your consciousness is receiving...which manifests as the physical universe, your body ,in other words all of the world that is without,or as some call it the reflection,.well when the consciousness within stops reacting to these thoughts,it begins to awaken from the hypnotic slumber it has been in.
Then that something comes more and more,then one day it comes and stays...then it begins to expand..and it expands to the point you realise that is you...and you realise you are observing your body/thoughts,emotion/outside world..in plain words you are pure awareness....and you just are ,you are flowing and ebbing ...you are within and without,but you are not focused on either..you are observiing,and yet your attention is on nothing..you will do what you are doing but there is no intention on what you are doing..it is hard to explain with words because logic and reason does not do it justice.But thats why education teaches us to stay focused if you want a good job,your teacher screams at you to pay attention.these go against your natural state of being
The best two things i learned from david that helped me.were in firstly realising that the physical world is only a reflection from within...and the realisation that the physical universe is one big subliminal message..in other words its not just a masons compass, that is sending these messages but everything in the physical is telling your consciousness to sleep,thats why the fear vibration ..thought energy will always try to keep you focused in the physical..and not look within.
If you look outside,you will see a big universe,and billions of subliminal messages..if you look within..there is only you..infinite consciousness,and your creation thought energy/fear..in other words go to the source of the messages and not the reflection.
So instead of thrashing about in the reflection..from the comfort of your own home,you can start to awaken that something,just by doing what david says in the infinite love book..dont respond to thought and emotion...which are basically just powerful hypnotic photons fear is hitting your consciousness with,a bit like a heavyweight boxer who has you on the ropes and is pounding you.
When you disconnect from these photons,the punches become less and less, and less powerful more like a lightweight hitting you...thus your consciousness begins to recover and awaken,and then finally the photons will have no effect on you,and your consciousness becomes pure awareness in the moment of now.
love dodie x
nickatnoon61
27-10-2007, 10:48 PM
We have become addicted to oil. That's the drug we need to keep an eye on. ;)
A.L.,oil is totally unnecessary, as are all fossil fuels. there are thousands of free-energy machines on the shelves collecting dust, because free energy would free the planet! Up in the GWNorth , here, I could grow fruits and veggies all year round, in my climate-controlled greenhouse. No more poisonous produce from the stores!!! Anyhow, we are off-topic here...cheers...:)
nickatnoon61
27-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Awakening certainly has many stages to it,so for some it represents the start of their journey and for others it represents the end of their journey.
For me jays statement represents ,where i feel i am,but say a couple of years ago,i would not have grasped the real meaning of that statement.
So basically its a journey through different states of being until you awaken the i/self within..the real you,call it soul/consciousness..the aspect that it is observing and experiencing.
I remember lottie mentioned in a thread once,how she had the urge to visit a spiritualist church,but something was stopping her..well to me that something is the first recognition of self.....that feeling that jumps in every now and then,when everything else ie thoughts and emotion are urging you to do it...and that feeling stops you.Listening to that feeling never lets you down ie ..intuition or as i call it inner tuition..it has saved my neck many a time.
When you stop reacting and responding to thoughts and emotion..and especially thoughts..as thought energy=fear vibration..the creator of the projection your consciousness is receiving...which manifests as the physical universe, your body ,in other words all of the world that is without,or as some call it the reflection,.well when the consciousness within stops reacting to these thoughts,it begins to awaken from the hypnotic slumber it has been in.
Then that something comes more and more,then one day it comes and stays...then it begins to expand..and it expands to the point you realise that is you...and you realise you are observing your body/thoughts,emotion/outside world..in plain words you are pure awareness....and you just are ,you are flowing and ebbing ...you are within and without,but you are not focused on either..you are observiing,and yet your attention is on nothing..you will do what you are doing but there is no intention on what you are doing..it is hard to explain with words because logic and reason does not do it justice.But thats why education teaches us to stay focused if you want a good job,your teacher screams at you to pay attention.these go against your natural state of being
The best two things i learned from david that helped me.were in firstly realising that the physical world is only a reflection from within...and the realisation that the physical universe is one big subliminal message..in other words its not just a masons compass, that is sending these messages but everything in the physical is telling your consciousness to sleep,thats why the fear vibration ..thought energy will always try to keep you focused in the physical..and not look within.
If you look outside,you will see a big universe,and billions of subliminal messages..if you look within..there is only you..infinite consciousness,and your creation thought energy/fear..in other words go to the source of the messages and not the reflection.
So instead of thrashing about in the reflection..from the comfort of your own home,you can start to awaken that something,just by doing what david says in the infinite love book..dont respond to thought and emotion...which are basically just powerful hypnotic photons fear is hitting your consciousness with,a bit like a heavyweight boxer who has you on the ropes and is pounding you.
When you disconnect from these photons,the punches become less and less, and less powerful more like a lightweight hitting you...thus your consciousness begins to recover and awaken,and then finally the photons will have no effect on you,and your consciousness becomes pure awareness in the moment of now.
love dodie x
dodie, I hope you are a female, because after reading your post...I LOVE YOU!!!! :) IF YOU ARE A MALE...I STILL LOVE YOU,BUT IN A NON-GAY WAY OF COURSE!!!! :eek: :D I am going to copy and paste your post to my list, with your permission...thanx....:)
dodie
28-10-2007, 03:48 PM
dodie, I hope you are a female, because after reading your post...I LOVE YOU!!!! :) IF YOU ARE A MALE...I STILL LOVE YOU,BUT IN A NON-GAY WAY OF COURSE!!!! :eek: :D I am going to copy and paste your post to my list, with your permission...thanx....:)
Thanks for your kind words and support nick.:)
haha sorry mate but i am male,and i love you::).totally in a non gay way of course:D.
And yes my canadian brother,you are more than welcome to copy it to your list,Indeed thank you for the compliment mate.
hope all is well with you,and your family nick ,in this moment of now.:)
love dodie x
lottie
28-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Awakening certainly has many stages to it,so for some it represents the start of their journey and for others it represents the end of their journey.
For me jays statement represents ,where i feel i am,but say a couple of years ago,i would not have grasped the real meaning of that statement.
So basically its a journey through different states of being until you awaken the i/self within..the real you,call it soul/consciousness..the aspect that it is observing and experiencing.
I remember lottie mentioned in a thread once,how she had the urge to visit a spiritualist church,but something was stopping her..well to me that something is the first recognition of self.....that feeling that jumps in every now and then,when everything else ie thoughts and emotion are urging you to do it...and that feeling stops you.Listening to that feeling never lets you down ie ..intuition or as i call it inner tuition..it has saved my neck many a time.
When you stop reacting and responding to thoughts and emotion..and especially thoughts..as thought energy=fear vibration..the creator of the projection your consciousness is receiving...which manifests as the physical universe, your body ,in other words all of the world that is without,or as some call it the reflection,.well when the consciousness within stops reacting to these thoughts,it begins to awaken from the hypnotic slumber it has been in.
Then that something comes more and more,then one day it comes and stays...then it begins to expand..and it expands to the point you realise that is you...and you realise you are observing your body/thoughts,emotion/outside world..in plain words you are pure awareness....and you just are ,you are flowing and ebbing ...you are within and without,but you are not focused on either..you are observiing,and yet your attention is on nothing..you will do what you are doing but there is no intention on what you are doing..it is hard to explain with words because logic and reason does not do it justice.But thats why education teaches us to stay focused if you want a good job,your teacher screams at you to pay attention.these go against your natural state of being
The best two things i learned from david that helped me.were in firstly realising that the physical world is only a reflection from within...and the realisation that the physical universe is one big subliminal message..in other words its not just a masons compass, that is sending these messages but everything in the physical is telling your consciousness to sleep,thats why the fear vibration ..thought energy will always try to keep you focused in the physical..and not look within.
If you look outside,you will see a big universe,and billions of subliminal messages..if you look within..there is only you..infinite consciousness,and your creation thought energy/fear..in other words go to the source of the messages and not the reflection.
So instead of thrashing about in the reflection..from the comfort of your own home,you can start to awaken that something,just by doing what david says in the infinite love book..dont respond to thought and emotion...which are basically just powerful hypnotic photons fear is hitting your consciousness with,a bit like a heavyweight boxer who has you on the ropes and is pounding you.
When you disconnect from these photons,the punches become less and less, and less powerful more like a lightweight hitting you...thus your consciousness begins to recover and awaken,and then finally the photons will have no effect on you,and your consciousness becomes pure awareness in the moment of now.
love dodie x
Wise words as ever sweetie!! ;)
How do i top that? I think you said it all really!! LOL!!! :D:p
Love ya E!
xxx
dodie
28-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Wise words as ever sweetie!! ;)
How do i top that? I think you said it all really!! LOL!!! :D:p
Love ya E!
xxx
Hi lottster,stop being humble i know you could top that:)
love you as well babe:D
love dodie x
nickatnoon61
29-10-2007, 03:31 AM
Thanks for your kind words and support nick.:)
haha sorry mate but i am male,and i love you::).totally in a non gay way of course:D.
And yes my canadian brother,you are more than welcome to copy it to your list,Indeed thank you for the compliment mate.
hope all is well with you,and your family nick ,in this moment of now.:)
love dodie x Thanx dodie, ru in BC also/ If you do not wish to disclose, you can PM me, but ot is not essential.You have a grasp of the human/spirit makeup methinx!!!! cya around bud! :)
nickatnoon61
29-10-2007, 03:33 AM
Thanks for your kind words and support nick.:)
haha sorry mate but i am male,and i love you::).totally in a non gay way of course:D.
And yes my canadian brother,you are more than welcome to copy it to your list,Indeed thank you for the compliment mate.
hope all is well with you,and your family nick ,in this moment of now.:)
love dodie x Thanx dodie, r u in BC also? If you do not wish to disclose, you can PM me, but it is not essential.You have a grasp of the human/spirit makeup methinx!!!! cya around bud! :)
it is to awaken to the illusion world, the matrix of illusion.
then, to start searching for answers
that will leads you to start searching within
in turn, that will help you unite your mind and your spirit
that search should make you realize of who you really are - a
spirit entrapped within body
ancient and existing religions are using allegories that
refer to this awakening, so we shall not completely dismiss their teachings on esoteric levels.
there is lots of truth to be found in those, but ultimate truth is within each and everyone of us.
if you knew that true you is a spirit that cannot die -- you would not worry about death, would you?
you would do what is right, you would not fall for dirty tricks that are being used on all of us,
and you would not even think of hurting others.
so, i think that awakening is transcending the fear that is present in material world (as much as humanly possible) and finding your purpose in life that should be inspired by the divine.
I think that returning to divine/spirit is the end goal.
I often think that Earth may be a prison (Hell) that the only way to get out from is by growing up spiritually and returning to spirit. Why else we should live in such chaos?
therefore, i do no think that any human being on earth is completely awakened, how can you be when your knowledge is so minuscule compared to whole knowledge of the universe?
but, you can become enlightened by understanding who you really are and by working towards higher goals, by dropping old and destructive ways -- and all of this comes from self examination, which is the process of inner growth.
this process in turn makes you grow spiritually and i think that this is the goal, as this would lead to liberation from matter.
but, often we forget this and we are back in material world, chasing whatever we think we should be chasing.
alleendewaarheid
29-10-2007, 08:20 PM
it is to awaken to the illusion world, the matrix of illusion.
then, to start searching for answers
that will leads you to start searching within
in turn, that will help you unite your mind and your spirit
that search should make you realize of who you really are - a
spirit entrapped within body
ancient and existing religions are using allegories that
refer to this awakening, so we shall not completely dismiss their teachings on esoteric levels.
there is lots of truth to be found in those, but ultimate truth is within each and everyone of us.
if you knew that true you is a spirit that cannot die -- you would not worry about death, would you?
you would do what is right, you would not fall for dirty tricks that are being used on all of us,
and you would not even think of hurting others.
so, i think that awakening is transcending the fear that is present in material world (as much as humanly possible) and finding your purpose in life that should be inspired by the divine.
I think that returning to divine/spirit is the end goal.
I often think that Earth may be a prison (Hell) that the only way to get out from is by growing up spiritually and returning to spirit. Why else we should live in such chaos?
therefore, i do no think that any human being on earth is completely awakened, how can you be when your knowledge is so minuscule compared to whole knowledge of the universe?
but, you can become enlightened by understanding who you really are and by working towards higher goals, by dropping old and destructive ways -- and all of this comes from self examination, which is the process of inner growth.
this process in turn makes you grow spiritually and i think that this is the goal, as this would lead to liberation from matter.
but, often we forget this and we are back in material world, chasing whatever we think we should be chasing.
king,
well said!
love to you!