How to predict football (soccer) using astrology

[alphabet]

Replace word "HORSE(s)" with "FOOTBALL"

(NO KNOWLEDGE OF HORSE RACING IS NEEDED WHATSOEVER. DOES HELP THOUGH)

1. Find rectified natal chart

A natal chart is a map showing the position of the planets at a moment of birth. Yours, the Queens, horses, Cristiano Ronaldo, a plant, a piece of wood, a question...anything.
A rectified natal chart is a natal chart with the correct time/ascendant. If you have no birth time with the date (such as: horse) you will need to rectify (the word translates as 'change') based on events. This can be done.

2. Compare transits of horse natal chart, and see which one wins

Transits are positions of the planets in the sky right now, related to the position of the planets in your natal chart. Or rather, the horse natal.
Best (and tightest) aspect wins. Any similarities, look at Ascendant strength. Always useful to check ASC anyway.






In short:

1. See which manager has the best transits to natal chart for who wins. The score is determined by the strength that one charts transits are better than the other. There are many draws in football. Not saying matches are drawn on purpose. :)

2. Look at the player natals for the best transits to see who scores. This after knowing who WILL win.



Check the how to do astrology thread (soon) as to how to do astrology.

[elcribbo]

Replace word "HORSE(s)" with "FOOTBALL"

(NO KNOWLEDGE OF HORSE RACING IS NEEDED WHATSOEVER. DOES HELP THOUGH)

1. Find rectified natal chart

A natal chart is a map showing the position of the planets at a moment of birth. Yours, the Queens, horses, Cristiano Ronaldo, a plant, a piece of wood, a question...anything.
A rectified natal chart is a natal chart with the correct time/ascendant. If you have no birth time with the date (such as: horse) you will need to rectify (the word translates as 'change') based on events. This can be done.

2. Compare transits of horse natal chart, and see which one wins

Transits are positions of the planets in the sky right now, related to the position of the planets in your natal chart. Or rather, the horse natal.
Best (and tightest) aspect wins. Any similarities, look at Ascendant strength. Always useful to check ASC anyway.






In short:

1. See which manager has the best transits to natal chart for who wins. The score is determined by the strength that one charts transits are better than the other. There are many draws in football. Not saying matches are drawn on purpose. :)

2. Look at the player natals for the best transits to see who scores. This after knowing who WILL win.



Check the how to do astrology thread (soon) as to how to do astrology.

Although of course if this was true you'd be on the Forbes Rich List.

[alphabet]

Although of course if this was true you'd be on the Forbes Rich List.

It can take days/weeks/months to learn when explained correctly. How long it takes for you to get on the Forbes rich list is entirely upto you.

Or just stand back and admire the planet poetry in motion.

Or just not bother.

[sundeep]

have you been accurate on all your predictions up to this day?

how much money have you won ?

[alphabet]

I lose track on predictions. Stopped counting years ago.

For some reason I have been unemployed for 4 years, despite an excellent CV for the jobs I'm applying for. Not even interviews, never mind job offers. Like someone gets my application and throws it in the bin.
I only bet when I earn my own money, not when scraping by as such, and having to tell the government every penny I earn/spend.

Ask some premier league/european/international managers. See where they're loyalties lay. :eek:

I'm either making all this up, or it's all true. Check it for yourself.

If you were a group of people who found a lad with an system of making astrology work, something that can predict winners, scores, scorers, pregnancies, compatibility, earthquakes, deaths, and such like....would you advertise it, or even allow that person to get into a position where he/she could tell people?

Or would you bully them into not speaking? Maybe hiding behind the after effects of knowing such a thing, or even just wanting for themselves.

[alphabet]

You can use the method to predict football using astrology. Any questions about this method and not using me as a free personal financial advisor, feel free to ask.

[elcribbo]

I lose track on predictions. Stopped counting years ago.

For some reason I have been unemployed for 4 years, despite an excellent CV for the jobs I'm applying for. Not even interviews, never mind job offers. Like someone gets my application and throws it in the bin.
I only bet when I earn my own money, not when scraping by as such, and having to tell the government every penny I earn/spend.

Ask some premier league/european/international managers. See where they're loyalties lay. :eek:

I'm either making all this up, or it's all true. Check it for yourself.

If you were a group of people who found a lad with an system of making astrology work, something that can predict winners, scores, scorers, pregnancies, compatibility, earthquakes, deaths, and such like....would you advertise it, or even allow that person to get into a position where he/she could tell people?

Or would you bully them into not speaking? Maybe hiding behind the after effects of knowing such a thing, or even just wanting for themselves.

You're scraping by? When you can win the pools any time you want?

BTW you don't have to declare gambling winnings. They're not taxed (if you're in the UK) so you can win the pools as many times as you want and the govt doesn't need to know.

Anyway, you now have a unique opportunity to prove to the world that astrology isn't rubbish. Tell us the results from next weekend. Let's all get rich and teach the world a lesson into the bargain.

[gaag]

Yeah... are Scotland going to beat the Czech Republic on Friday night.... please!??!?

Also, what happens if the manager/teams natal rectum or whatever is higher say for Cambridge Utd when they are playing Chelsea in the FA Cup? You're not surely going to predict that Cambridge would win even though they have a far far inferior squad?

I have such a rubbish life at the moment, because I've had so many bad things happen to me recently. And to be honest, reading things like this annoys me. People like you are clearly trying to make others believe in something that you cannot just simply prove. Like many others, it's all about evasive statements (believe me or don't believe me, try it for yourself, take my word for it it's true etc etc.) when all you have to do is help people believe by giving us something real.

[alphabet]

You're scraping by? When you can win the pools any time you want?

BTW you don't have to declare gambling winnings. They're not taxed (if you're in the UK) so you can win the pools as many times as you want and the govt doesn't need to know.

Anyway, you now have a unique opportunity to prove to the world that astrology isn't rubbish. Tell us the results from next weekend. Let's all get rich and teach the world a lesson into the bargain.

Honesty. Great. :)

Didn't know that, thought you had to declare ANY income

It has been proven mate, you just don't know who knows.
Just imagine, for instance, that I had this many years ago and sending messages out on the internet etc.

1. Do you think it would be known now?
2. Do you think these people would tell 'normal' people?(non celebs/higher ups etc)

[alphabet]

Yeah... are Scotland going to beat the Czech Republic on Friday night.... please!??!?

Also, what happens if the manager/teams natal rectum or whatever is higher say for Cambridge Utd when they are playing Chelsea in the FA Cup? You're not surely going to predict that Cambridge would win even though they have a far far inferior squad?

I have such a rubbish life at the moment, because I've had so many bad things happen to me recently. And to be honest, reading things like this annoys me. People like you are clearly trying to make others believe in something that you cannot just simply prove. Like many others, it's all about evasive statements (believe me or don't believe me, try it for yourself, take my word for it it's true etc etc.) when all you have to do is help people believe by giving us something real.

Do I charge for this or lead you to somewhere that I have something extra to charge for? NO?

Would you prove this by ANY requesting person who keeps wanting that next bet and next bet and next bet and next bet because they are not convinced yet?

I am a 30 year old virgin, who has resist many offers of plenty of slags for free. I have a winning method for predicting not only the sports results, but many other thing in life too, including death (though still doing research) - I don't bet because I think the money has to be declared.

You ain't breaking me mate, nor is anyone. What better than the method itself for you to attempt?

[alphabet]

Yeah... are Scotland going to beat the Czech Republic on Friday night.... please!??!?

Also, what happens if the manager/teams natal rectum or whatever is higher say for Cambridge Utd when they are playing Chelsea in the FA Cup? You're not surely going to predict that Cambridge would win even though they have a far far inferior squad?



There is a likely skill level involved, but don't you know that many teams beat bugger teams in the cups. How many of the top clubs are still in the cups.

Use brain power better. Look at the team who always win. Work that out and start from there.

[gaag]

Do I charge for this or lead you to somewhere that I have something extra to charge for? NO?

Would you prove this by ANY requesting person who keeps wanting that next bet and next bet and next bet and next bet because they are not convinced yet?

I am a 30 year old virgin, who has resist many offers of plenty of slags for free. I have a winning method for predicting not only the sports results, but many other thing in life too, including death (though still doing research) - I don't bet because I think the money has to be declared.

You ain't breaking me mate, nor is anyone. What better than the method itself for you to attempt?

:D

Anyways. I'm not wanting a bet, I'm wanting a demonstration. I can't try it for myself because your method doesn't make any sense.

Who cares anyway if money had to be declared? And as said above by another poster, betting income is not taxable and thus does not need to be declared to anyone.

I'm not trying to break you, I'm trying to gain an insight that would prove to me that you are not a completely deluded fraud. And unfortunately you're doing nothing to help that.

I wish you luck with your future endeavours, whatever they may be.

P.S to go back to the original thing... why are you seemingly so proud of being a 30 year old virgin who turns away "hot slags" all the time? Personally, I think that A. being a virgin or not is completely irrelevant to anything and B. If that's you in the avatar I can't see hordes of hot slags falling at your feet... sorry!

[angelthecat]

[I]In short:

1. See which manager has the best transits to natal chart for who wins. The score is determined by the strength that one charts transits are better than the other. There are many draws in football. Not saying matches are drawn on purpose. :)

2. Look at the player natals for the best transits to see who scores. This after knowing who WILL win.




WOW i never realised if Manchester united played Accrington Stanley the match would be decided by a date of birth

[alphabet]

Have both the slower moving planet to faster natal planet and the faster moving planet to the slower natal planet on the final day of the competition, and you got yourselves a winner. Use house rulers ONE and SIX in the manager/player natal chart. The bigger the planet cycle, the better the manager/player. Compare current transits for who wins the match/who scores the goal.

Scorpio and Gemini the best. Pisces/Libra next, Aquarius/Virgo, Leo/Capricorn, Cancer/Sagittarius, Aries/Taurus. Who got the best/biggest hand/chart. Just liker poker.

Best degrees by order: 0, 30, -30, 60, -60, 90, -90, 120, -120, 150, -150, 180.

[alphabet]

:D

Anyways. I'm not wanting a bet, I'm wanting a demonstration. I can't try it for myself because your method doesn't make any sense.

Who cares anyway if money had to be declared? And as said above by another poster, betting income is not taxable and thus does not need to be declared to anyone.

I'm not trying to break you, I'm trying to gain an insight that would prove to me that you are not a completely deluded fraud. And unfortunately you're doing nothing to help that.

I wish you luck with your future endeavours, whatever they may be.

P.S to go back to the original thing... why are you seemingly so proud of being a 30 year old virgin who turns away "hot slags" all the time? Personally, I think that A. being a virgin or not is completely irrelevant to anything and B. If that's you in the avatar I can't see hordes of hot slags falling at your feet... sorry!

Some people follow the laws fella, mostly :)
Just because these politicians and whoever can steal, rape andbully, doesn't mean should all do as they do.

Giving the method as opposed to getting someone to do - like your Dad doing your DIY rather than teaching you to do it, and when he goes you don't know how to do it. Much better this way than carry on being a slave (that is my life) to punters/enthusiastic/important people.

Thank you for your honesty. Which part (apart from all of it) does not make sense? Have you attempted to learn it?

[gaag]

Most of it! When i read the word Natal, I think of the Sharks, the super 14's team!
What is this natal planet chart malarky, and house rulers and planet cycles... what?

Can you give me an example, so that i can read and understand plainly? Even of something that has happened earlier today, or previously?

[alphabet]

Search on the internet for astrology teaching.

Astrology is the language of the heavens/sky. There are 12 houses and also 12 signs. First sign is Aries, last is Pisces. The 1st house is same as the first sign, just as the last, 12th house, is same as the last sign, Pisces. Then comes 10 planets.

Take all the words in the English language and divide them into 12. These words are now fixed in the signs, houses and planets for ever.

Basically, the signs, houses, and planets all represent words.

The tool of a birth (natal) chart is used to extract meaning from where all the planets, houses, and signs are:
a) At your time of birth (natal astrology)
b) Currently in the sky (transits)

Your natal gives what you currently have in this life to use, like:
personality, finances, communication style, job etc

Transits give you how good or bad these areas will be as you move on from life.


Not quite bible code, because there is a logical structure as in any language.

You are just translating the language which is made from planet positions in a circle.

Just a reference point if you think this is silly.....
A circle contains 360 degrees. There are 365 days in a year.
There are 12 signs (and disciples) just as there are 12 numbered hours in a day. People get up with the sun (mostly) and go to sleep with the moon.

Research: Signs, houses, Planets, Aspects. Just to get a feel of the words/character associated with each part.
Most birth charts (natal charts) look the same with slightly different design.



Just a brief guide

[elcribbo]

Thread summary:

OP: "I can predict football results by using astrology!"
Everyone else: "Brilliant! Go on then!"
OP: "Er... no. I can, honest. I just don't want to."

I'm assuming that this skill takes an awful lot of time and effort to learn. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to ask for you to show that it works before we invest all that time and effort.

So here's your chance. Give us a prediction. Any prediction, using astrology. Doesn't have to be sport. (Nothing obvious please. I don't need astrology to tell me Liverpool are going to bloody lose again next week)

[alphabet]

Thread summary:

OP: "I can predict football results by using astrology!"
Everyone else: "Brilliant! Go on then!"
OP: "Er... no. I can, honest. I just don't want to."

I'm assuming that this skill takes an awful lot of time and effort to learn. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to ask for you to show that it works before we invest all that time and effort.

So here's your chance. Give us a prediction. Any prediction, using astrology. Doesn't have to be sport. (Nothing obvious please. I don't need astrology to tell me Liverpool are going to bloody lose again next week)

Or.....

OP: "I can predict football results by using astrology!"
Everyone else: "Brilliant! Go on then!"
OP: "You have the instructions, can you follow?"
everyone else: We want to make some mone...I mean we don't believe y....we mean we want you to make us some money"
OP: You have the instructions, if you can't be bothered, let the people who can be bothered to do it, while you attempt to control someone who cannot be controlled into being your slave.
everyone else: We want to make some mone...I mean we don't believe y....we mean we want you to make us some money"

Just imagine if this really IS a method to predict the sports results. Oh, done that already haven't I?

OK...no it is useless, doesn't work, I am a con artist. Do opposites work better for you?:rolleyes:

[alphabet]

No such thing as a free lunch eh?
I was wondering the same thing myself.

Ignore button looking very handy right now.

[heuer]

Chelsea 2 - Aston Villa 0

[opas23]

Hello Alphabet,

Thanks for this and your other threads regarding this subject.

After observing many cycles and patterns within the behaviour or appearance of nature in it's many fleeting forms, I must admit that: this does seem so.

Of particular interest, has been the sports markets on Betfair which do appear to present interesting movements both before and after the off.

Very well explained.

Opas23. :)

[gaag]

Bullshit. I tried it tonight and Scotland lost 1-0 to the Czech Republic when following your instructions it clearly showed all the signs in Scotland's favour.

You're a fraud, or deluded. Or both.

Rather annoyed at myself that I even bothered my arse to give this a go.

[opas23]

This may be of interest:~

http://fensi88.livejournal.com/

Possibly.

Who knows,

Opas23. :)

[elcribbo]

Or.....

OP: "I can predict football results by using astrology!"
Everyone else: "Brilliant! Go on then!"
OP: "You have the instructions, can you follow?"
everyone else: We want to make some mone...I mean we don't believe y....we mean we want you to make us some money"
OP: You have the instructions, if you can't be bothered, let the people who can be bothered to do it, while you attempt to control someone who cannot be controlled into being your slave.
everyone else: We want to make some mone...I mean we don't believe y....we mean we want you to make us some money"

Just imagine if this really IS a method to predict the sports results. Oh, done that already haven't I?

OK...no it is useless, doesn't work, I am a con artist. Do opposites work better for you?:rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong. I just want you to make me some money.

Failing that, I'd like you to do something - anything - to back up your outrageous claims. Doesn't have to be complicated. Doesn't have to be related to betting. And yet you seem remarkably reluctant to do that. Strangely, it's almost as if you can't.

Funny, that.

[alphabet]

Bullshit. I tried it tonight and Scotland lost 1-0 to the Czech Republic when following your instructions it clearly showed all the signs in Scotland's favour.

You're a fraud, or deluded. Or both.

Rather annoyed at myself that I even bothered my arse to give this a go.

You seem like you are given advice to knock my claim completely, maybe from the bad people, who knows. Lets see....tell me how you got Scotland winning?

What did you get for the rectified charts? What aspects did you compare with each other?

Can't be bothered telling because you think I'm a fraud?

You need to remember that this has been known in the sports world for many years now, and they don't want it out there for all to see, so use puppets to discredit my name.

[alphabet]

This may be of interest:~

http://fensi88.livejournal.com/

Possibly.

Who knows,

Opas23. :)

Without looking, I remember Fensi from astrologers community. A place to avoid. A Serbian who for some reason couldn't meet me when I was in her area (was a 'her' then) who uses the colour method and the natal chart of the match start time. How many matches go on at the same time? Manager natal comparison (my method) means that human interaction (managers) is the most important element of the prediction.

[elcribbo]

Can't be bothered telling?

Remind you of anyone?

[elcribbo]

You need to remember that this has been known in the sports world for many years now, and they don't want it out there for all to see, so use puppets to discredit my name.

Hilarious.

[truegroup]

You need to remember that this has been known in the sports world for many years now, and they don't want it out there for all to see, so use puppets to discredit my name.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6224/pinocchiodisney1.jpg

[alphabet]

How to rectify:

Rectify is another word for 'change.' You are attempting to change the Ascendant to get the correct one (which will show the birth time, as long as you get the correct birth place). No birth place is needed to rectify as you need one sign from 12 of them that change throughout the day, to get it right. No rectified chart, prediction doesn't work.

House rulers
The sign on the cusp of a house, has a planet 'ruling' that sign, or associated with it always, regardless of which house it rules.
Aries ruled by Mars
Taurus ruled by Venus
Gemini ruled by Mercury
Cancer ruled by Moon
Leo ruled by Sun
Virgo ruled by Mercury
(BOTH Gemini AND Virgo RULED BY MERCURY)
Libra ruled by Venus
(BOTH Taurus AND libra RULED BY VENUS)
Scorpio ruled by Pluto
Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter
Capricorn ruled by Saturn
Aquarius ruled by Uranus
Pisces ruled by Neptune

Goals
House rulers 1 and 6 in relation to each other. as they have a good day at work (6th house)
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other as they would be on cameras/in front of many people/crowds (11th house) when they score.
The slower moving planet in relation to the faster natal planet gives the overall form, while the faster moving planet in relation to the slower natal planet gives the short term form.


Injuries
Left foot/arm: House rulers 2 and 3 in relation to each other as house ruler 3 is left arm/leg
Right foot/arm: House rulers 8 and 9 in relation to each other as house ruler 9 is right arm/leg
The worst the aspect (180 and 150 are the worst) the worst the injury is. The better the aspect, the less the injury length out. The house before the leg/arm because it is the 12th from. 12th from is injury of....arm/leg.

Suspensions
House rulers 6 and 2 in relation to each other
6 is work. 2nd is 9th from 6th of work. 9th (law) from is work law. The worst the aspect the more suspension they get.

Debuts
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other
Some type of fame/crowd there when they play for the first time. this also applies to injuries, suspension and goals. The better the aspect, the good fame or bad fame (worst aspects) they have.

[alphabet]

www.phpbbplanet.com/mast

If you want FREE tips and/or to moan about not being able to do this, therefore cover up your lack of intelligence...I mean learn about this, please sign up and you get totally FREE tips. No charge, no time limit until you pay.

I do this for FREE and take time out of my life.

Why? Because it's amazing what I have done and I just sit back and stare at what the planets are saying in absolute amazement.


Just a really big sham(e) that no sports person is willing to come out of their little club and speak in plain, simple, understandable straight-forward non-code talking English and let people know that this is real, and damn well works. Although I guess not even God himself could convince these people.

Understandable that you think it a sham, especially when I do this for FREE.
Just imagine - I have given you the key to understanding nature. Also, a winnable method for making money. People don't do that do they? Cos if this was a winnable method, I would take the side of greed and selfishness by charging you for this gift.

Muppets/puppets - you either take this and use it, while damning it in public, or you have just wasted a chance to make yourselves some money, or just understand. Obviously this is what matters to you and you really should be ashamed of yourselves for taking the path of the people you criticise.

[jackdaw]

This is like so many claims on here - UFO abductions, ET contactees and so on but no tangible proof or evidence of any sort posted. You are making bold claims and have been challenged to back them up yet you decline. Why would that be? Do you expect everyone to take what you say at face value?

Why don't you demonstrate something to back up your ideas and hyphotheses?

[gaag]

because he's a delusional fraud.

[ragnarok]

Which is a shame, because his musical taste isn't as bad as I expected. It just goes to show - you can't judge a kook by his album covers.

[alphabet]

This is like so many claims on here - UFO abductions, ET contactees and so on but no tangible proof or evidence of any sort posted. You are making bold claims and have been challenged to back them up yet you decline. Why would that be? Do you expect everyone to take what you say at face value?

Why don't you demonstrate something to back up your ideas and hyphotheses?

The proof is in the method given. Is that so hard to understand? The method is something you can do yourself. Have you doubters actually studied the method and attempted to do it yourself? I guess not.

Or do you just discredit?

[gaag]

Waits patiently to be called a puppet again...

[the freeman]

The proof is in the method given. Is that so hard to understand? The method is something you can do yourself. Have you doubters actually studied the method and attempted to do it yourself? I guess not.

Or do you just discredit?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_34ASFH9K-sY/TI7CZ5FX3tI/AAAAAAAABsw/rwFt-iw7Ppc/s320/bullshit+meter02.bmp

[jackdaw]

You've been given the opportunity of providing some examples but still refuse, instead referring to your 'method'. Actually, I don't think I'm alone in being unable to fathom just what it is!

Maybe break it down in comprehensible parts so we can follow it? Either that or give us some predictions. If you're convinced by your methodology why are you reluctant to do so? It could only mean that it's all arcane theory and wishful thinking and er.... No, I'll stop there. ;)

[alphabet]

You've been given the opportunity of providing some examples but still refuse, instead referring to your 'method'. Actually, I don't think I'm alone in being unable to fathom just what it is!

Maybe break it down in comprehensible parts so we can follow it? Either that or give us some predictions. If you're convinced by your methodology why are you reluctant to do so? It could only mean that it's all arcane theory and wishful thinking and er.... No, I'll stop there. ;)

A few words away from getting you on my ignore list too.

If people are having problems, they could have asked how to do specific parts after failing to do it themselves. I don't see how tips would have helped at all as it would not teach you anything new about the actual method.
OK, will look at a random example, unrelated to any sports player. I will look at my chart, for an example.

After that, and even now, if you don't want to attempt, feel free to miss out.

Has anyone actually attempted to do this? Sure there are a few who have astrological knowledge on here.

[alphabet]

1. Find rectified natal chart

A natal chart is a map showing the position of the planets at a moment of birth. Yours, the Queens, horses, Cristiano Ronaldo, a plant, a piece of wood, a question...anything.
A rectified natal chart is a natal chart with the correct time/ascendant. If you have no birth time with the date (such as: horse) you will need to rectify (the word translates as 'change') based on events. This can be done.

2. Compare transits of player natal chart, and see which one wins

Transits are positions of the planets in the sky right now, related to the position of the planets in your natal chart. Or rather, the player natal.
Best (and tightest) aspect wins. Any similarities, look at Ascendant strength. Always useful to check ASC anyway.

Lets say I have no rectified chart., then I would do this:

Rectify is another word for 'change.' You are attempting to change the Ascendant to get the correct one (which will show the birth time, as long as you get the correct birth place). No birth place is needed to rectify as you need one sign from 12 of them that change throughout the day, to get it right. No rectified chart, prediction doesn't work.

House rulers
The sign on the cusp of a house, has a planet 'ruling' that sign, or associated with it always, regardless of which house it rules.
Aries ruled by Mars
Taurus ruled by Venus
Gemini ruled by Mercury
Cancer ruled by Moon
Leo ruled by Sun
Virgo ruled by Mercury
(BOTH Gemini AND Virgo RULED BY MERCURY)
Libra ruled by Venus
(BOTH Taurus AND libra RULED BY VENUS)
Scorpio ruled by Pluto
Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter
Capricorn ruled by Saturn
Aquarius ruled by Uranus
Pisces ruled by Neptune

Goals
House rulers 1 and 6 in relation to each other. as they have a good day at work (6th house)
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other as they would be on cameras/in front of many people/crowds (11th house) when they score.
The slower moving planet in relation to the faster natal planet gives the overall form, while the faster moving planet in relation to the slower natal planet gives the short term form.


Injuries
Left foot/arm: House rulers 2 and 3 in relation to each other as house ruler 3 is left arm/leg
Right foot/arm: House rulers 8 and 9 in relation to each other as house ruler 9 is right arm/leg
The worst the aspect (180 and 150 are the worst) the worst the injury is. The better the aspect, the less the injury length out. The house before the leg/arm because it is the 12th from. 12th from is injury of....arm/leg.

Suspensions
House rulers 6 and 2 in relation to each other
6 is work. 2nd is 9th from 6th of work. 9th (law) from is work law. The worst the aspect the more suspension they get.

Debuts
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other
Some type of fame/crowd there when they play for the first time. this also applies to injuries, suspension and goals. The better the aspect, the good fame or bad fame (worst aspects) they have.

Chart is now rectified, meaning that the accurate ascendant is given.

This is a natal chart.....

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7476/alphabetchart.gif

To see how good my form is, I will look at house rulers 1 and 6.
House 1 is direct west of the centre circle. The sign on the cusp is Aquarius, therefore Uranus as it ruler.
Uranus is at 22 degrees Scorpio natally (on the inside of the circle). Currently, Uranus is at 27 Pisces (outside of circle)

House 6 is the 6th house from the first (or even one before the 7th). The sign on the 6th house cusp is Cancer. Therefore Moon as it's ruler.
Moon is at 19 degrees natally (on the inside of the circle). Currently, Moon is at 10 Pisces (outside of Circle)
*The Moon is attached to the Sun. When transiting, you assume the Moon is *tied to* the Sun. So when looking at transiting Moon, you look to see where the Sun is. The Moon is full (opposite degree to the Sun) and new (same degree as the Sun) at certain points to emphasise the Moon in aspect.

The slower moving planet of Uranus (1st ruler - self) and Moon (6th ruler - work) is Uranus.
Transit Uranus (on the outside) is moving towards Moon (on the inside) in 22 degrees. This gives the overall form.
Transiting Moon (outside) to Uranus (inside) is moving towards in 28 degrees. I used Sun as the indicator of the Moon, as stated above.

Both are excellent aspects, which means I score lots and lot of goals because I'm the only one on this team.

Overall aspect: Uranus (applying - moving towards) +22 degrees to Moon, and Sun (applying) to Uranus +28 degrees.
22+28= +50 degree aspect in total.

[If Uranus was separating (moving away) from Moon, you would come up with -22 + 28 = 6 degree aspect in total]

Ok, so what SPECIFIC questions do you have about this way of doing it?

[heuer]

I have some free time now so will probably take a look at it all tomorrow and see if I can predict some scores.

[alphabet]

I have some free time now so will probably take a look at it all tomorrow and see if I can predict some scores.

How to work out the score
Work out the difference in 30 degree aspects between the two managers aspects. That should be the amount of goals scored. 30 degrees per goal. If both managers are the same aspect, the game should be 0-0 as both teams are playing very good. Unless one has a better ascendant than the other (stronger planet cycles)

When looking at the managers aspects, add the two big to little and little to big aspects together to see the overall aspect.

Aspects
Degrees: -30, -60, -90, -120, -150, 0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 150, 180. Imagine a clock with 360 degrees on, then divided into 12 numbers numbered 1-12.

Best degrees by order: 0, 30, -30, 60, -60, 90, -90, 120, -120, 150, -150, 180.

Planet cycles and Ascendants
Planet cycles: Moon: 1 Month. Mercury, Venus, Sun: 1 year. Mars: 2 years. Jupiter: 12 years. Uranus: 86 years. Neptune: Long time. Pluto: Even longer time

Scorpio and Gemini the best. Pisces/Libra next, Aquarius/Virgo, Leo/Capricorn, Cancer/Sagittarius, Aries/Taurus. Who got the best/biggest hand/chart. Just liker poker.


Method in short:
Have both the slower moving planet to faster natal planet and the faster moving planet to the slower natal planet on the final day of the competition, and you got yourselves a winner. Use house rulers ONE and SIX in the manager/player natal chart. The bigger the planet cycle, the better the manager/player. Compare current transits for who wins the match/who scores the goal.

[jackdaw]

I have some free time now so will probably take a look at it all tomorrow and see if I can predict some scores.

I'd be interested in your results. Sorry to say I must be wanting because I can't completely follow the process outlined.

[alphabet]

I'd be interested in your results. Sorry to say I must be wanting because I can't completely follow the process outlined.

I have a site already, but will open up a new site (something about astrology of start - don't ask) to TEACH people for free. That and send out e-mail tips. Will let you know in the next few days.

[ragnarok]

Don't feel left out - neither can most of us reading this thread. :)

[tarant8l]

takes up to 10 minutes and you got it, 4:3 and the alike. So you can predict using pen and paper or even by heart in minutes, seconds. See also 20 Minutes Astrology.

[topsyman]

How to work out the score
Work out the difference in 30 degree aspects between the two managers aspects. That should be the amount of goals scored. 30 degrees per goal. If both managers are the same aspect, the game should be 0-0 as both teams are playing very good. Unless one has a better ascendant than the other (stronger planet cycles)

When looking at the managers aspects, add the two big to little and little to big aspects together to see the overall aspect.

Aspects
Degrees: -30, -60, -90, -120, -150, 0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 150, 180. Imagine a clock with 360 degrees on, then divided into 12 numbers numbered 1-12.

Best degrees by order: 0, 30, -30, 60, -60, 90, -90, 120, -120, 150, -150, 180.

Planet cycles and Ascendants
Planet cycles: Moon: 1 Month. Mercury, Venus, Sun: 1 year. Mars: 2 years. Jupiter: 12 years. Uranus: 86 years. Neptune: Long time. Pluto: Even longer time

Scorpio and Gemini the best. Pisces/Libra next, Aquarius/Virgo, Leo/Capricorn, Cancer/Sagittarius, Aries/Taurus. Who got the best/biggest hand/chart. Just liker poker.


Method in short:
Have both the slower moving planet to faster natal planet and the faster moving planet to the slower natal planet on the final day of the competition, and you got yourselves a winner. Use house rulers ONE and SIX in the manager/player natal chart. The bigger the planet cycle, the better the manager/player. Compare current transits for who wins the match/who scores the goal.

alphabet,
have tried to make some forecast with your methods. seems to be making progress but still far away from perfection. can you make some more examples even with already played games for more explanation. tks

[topsyman]

Alphabet,
Have been trying this method. I need some clarifications from you. Kindly assist with issue of overall aspect of more than 180 degrees.