Peter and Jordan

[hagbard_celine]

I’ve recently written here about the fake Blue Peter phone-in. It’s almost too incredible to believe that such and audacious and subterfuge is going on, but it gets worse, far worse! The notion that Peter Andre and Katie Price, aka Jordan, are not a real couple is rife today, and that’s encouraging because it means people are suspicious of the Conformist Regime’s media and don’t swallow it whole and unquestioned.

In a recent TV interview Jordan was asked about the conspiracy theories surrounding her and Peter and she replied: “We’ve got our third kid now; how long will it be before these people accept that we’re a real couple?” I myself don’t doubt that they are a real couple today; what I dispute is how their relationship began in the first place.

They met in a most unusual and sensational manner. They were both contestants on the Reality TV show I’m a Celebrity- Get Me Out of Here!I’ve become convinced that Reality TV is actually government mind control and Conformist propaganda, as I've written elswhere. Peter and Jordan were total strangers when they arrived at the show’s location. Almost immediately they were holding hands and cuddling. The two became the subject of nationwide gossip and Jordan’s current casual beau traveled all the way from Britain to the show’s location in Australia to invade the set and “punch Peter’s lights out.”. In her 2004 autobiography, Being Jordan, Jordan describes how she and Peter were instantly smitten. Here I suspect she is lying. One of the most important things Reality TV needs to be successful and keep the viewers watching is conflict and confrontation among the contestants or some kind of crisis or scandal. Nobody will bother tuning in to see ten people getting along like a house on fire! Viewing figures soar when things “go wrong”. I put these words in quotes because it’s not a case of “going wrong” it’s one of “going right”. The producers very much want these incidents to break out… so much so that I doubt if they’d leave the prospect of one doing so to chance. I think that the coming together of Peter and Jordan was staged.

As I watched the two strolling round the jungle hand-in-hand I recalled a similar incident in the first series involving the actor Darren Day and “it girl” Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. The two had an affair on-set. Darren’s’ girlfriend was interviewed on GMTV about what she thought and I was amazed at how unperturbed she sounded. Then it struck me: the whole thing was a set-up! Darren and Tara were only pretending to be lovers and Darren’s girlfriend was in on it. The same staged incident was arranged for Peter and Jordan and Jordan’s current boyfriend (and I dare say Peter’s partner too, if he had one) was briefed in. There was something very insincere and forced about Peter and Jordan’s on-screen petting. Jordan’s boyfriend’s anger also looked very fake as he stepped off the plane in Australia. Whatever other talents they might have they are definitely not actors. What the show’s producers, and I dare say Jordan’s boyfriend, never counted on was Peter and Jordan falling in love for real after the TV show was finished! They’re a real couple now; it’s beyond doubt. They live together and go everywhere together and have children. Personally I wish them luck.

The fakery and stagecraft on TV is of a depth and scale that is almost beyond belief. So-called documentaries and real life are as scripted and designed as much as any movie, drama or soap opera. TV producers can make films of people reading scripts and acting out preassigned roles and characters; and then go ahead and present it to the viewing public as a factual record of true life. There is no law that prevents them from doing this. Sometimes their machinations are exposed, as with Blue Peter and Family Confidential, but how much else do they get away with? What proportion of their chicanery slips through the net? The two examples I gave could be the tip of a huge and very sinister iceberg. If TV producers are presenting fictional material as fact and news then how can we trust them to tell us the truth about anything?

[geronimo]

I]I’ve become convinced that Reality TV is actually government mind control and Conformist propaganda, as I've written elswhere.

So true, and Big Brother is a great example that would have Orwell turning in his grave. It's not reality, just a fake reality the controllers wish to create. So many 'programs' - interesting word, that - have arisen in the last decade which deal with gender-swapping, wife-swapping, divorce, the break-up of the family, focus on problems in relationships, focus on people with massive tumours or other physical afflictions, - encouraging voyerism, on the part of the public, basically - midgets, documentaries on freaks of all kinds and people over seven feet tall - we also see in Hollywood massive gender role reversal, strong women (Kill Bill, Jodie Foster in vigilante role, one might say the macho female archetype almost began with Sigourney Weaver in Alien, but it has EXPLODED since 911, interestingly enough, at the same time as males are portrayed as imbeciles, weak, ineffectual, muddle-headed and docile. Just look at recent American 'comedy' film posters - TV adverts are becoming increasingly puerile, silly, this is seen as 'fun'. It would be very instructive to circle, in red felt tip, the number of 'programs' watched regularly on UK TV that are essentially propaganda - including serialised dramas dealing with terrorism. Pavlov would be drooling over this. Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's nephew, played a key role in it - He was single-handedly responsible for conditioning the public to accept that 'Bacon and eggs' was the way to go, also women smoking. It's so easy when you know how.

geronimo

[hagbard_celine]

What worris me is the message, in BB especially, that it's glamouous to live under the consant gaze of CCTV.

But there's a deeper more subtle social propaganda: It encourages extreme competitiveness and ruthlesness; what I call "hypernihilism". The Weakest Link is the worst. It promotes the idea that we should glorify humiliation and personal abuse.

The recent RealityTV shows with Alan Sugar warn us against any attempts at vision, creativity or enterprise by humiliating anyone who "dares to dream". This kind of thing is aversion therapy, like in the days whe the smoker who wanted to give up was subjcted to painful electric shocks every time they lit a cigarete.

[steevo]

Once you become aware of how the media tries to shape our minds, you notice all this kind of thing. Whilst watching tv, I find myself saying to people, probably to their annoyance, that that certain program is to create this situation and this one is to do that... etc
And the percentage of programs that are being used to shape our minds is very high indeed. The latest one that REALLY annoys me is called "The One Show" which is on 5 days a week at the peak time of 7pm on BBC1, it has everything propaganda, ridicule, misinformation you name it.

And a program comes on directly after The One Show on a particular day, I forget it's name, but it's about doctors going up to people in the streets asking if they have any problems. It's creates hypocondriacs, I know this cos i found myself thinking do I have this or that problem and then I ignore it cos I know the game they are playing.

[hagbard_celine]

Once you become aware of how the media tries to shape our minds, you notice all this kind of thing. Whilst watching tv, I find myself saying to people, probably to their annoyance, that that certain program is to create this situation and this one is to do that... etc
And the percentage of programs that are being used to shape our minds is very high indeed. The latest one that REALLY annoys me is called "The One Show" which is on 5 days a week at the peak time of 7pm on BBC1, it has everything propaganda, ridicule, misinformation you name it.

And a program comes on directly after The One Show on a particular day, I forget it's name, but it's about doctors going up to people in the streets asking if they have any problems. It's creates hypocondriacs, I know this cos i found myself thinking do I have this or that problem and then I ignore it cos I know the game they are playing.

I've seen the latter one and can't stand it! Talk about scaremiongering!:mad: "Did you know there are 3000 people in Bristol with diabetes who don't know it?" (Thunder clap) :rolleyes: Well thank God for that! I wouldn't wan to deprive Big Pharma of their human insulin production now would I:rolleyes::D

I'll have to check out The One Show. I'll keep a sick bag handy!

[steevo]

I've seen the latter one and can't stand it! Talk about scaremiongering!:mad: "Did you know there are 3000 people in Bristol with diabetes who don't know it?" (Thunder clap) :rolleyes: Well thank God for that! I wouldn't wan to deprive Big Pharma of their human insulin production now would I:rolleyes::D

I'll have to check out The One Show. I'll keep a sick bag handy!

The One Show is tonight spreading fear by doing an experiment on a family in their house. They had some gell which had a virus in it (they said it was a cold virus) and showed how it was spread very easily to every member of the family by letting the youngest girl touch it. Now, very predictably, they are discussing the flu virus too. And they are ridiculing home remedies that people have supposedly emailled into the show.

They say that in tomorrows show they will be discussing the medical ways that we can deal with these virus'. So I reckon they are gonna be pushing the free flu jabs. :mad:

[kweli]

I find this one pretty sick!

http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/M/mummy_diaries/

Thursday November at 9pm on Channel 4

"The bond between a mother and her child is an extraordinary one. But what happens when that bond is broken by the premature death of the mother? Ground-breaking three-part series The Mummy Diaries follows five ordinary families who face the unthinkable – a life without Mum.

Five mothers are living with the knowledge that they have been diagnosed with an incurable illness and face the daunting challenge of how and what to communicate to their children. We learn that although it is natural to want to protect children it is possible to talk with them so they feel involved and not overwhelmed.

The characters and their situations in the series show that the strength and spirit of family life can be stronger than any illness. Sadly, during the series some of the mothers lose their battle against cancer. We follow the families as they try to continue with their lives."

[steevo]

I find this one pretty sick!

http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/M/mummy_diaries/

Thursday November at 9pm on Channel 4

"The bond between a mother and her child is an extraordinary one. But what happens when that bond is broken by the premature death of the mother? Ground-breaking three-part series The Mummy Diaries follows five ordinary families who face the unthinkable – a life without Mum.

Five mothers are living with the knowledge that they have been diagnosed with an incurable illness and face the daunting challenge of how and what to communicate to their children. We learn that although it is natural to want to protect children it is possible to talk with them so they feel involved and not overwhelmed.

The characters and their situations in the series show that the strength and spirit of family life can be stronger than any illness. Sadly, during the series some of the mothers lose their battle against cancer. We follow the families as they try to continue with their lives."

Yeah I agree kweli, that is sick. A very upsetting subject, which makes me feel angry especially because the true reason for the program (probably) is to instill fear and guilt and help push the latest cancer vaccine and cancer drugs.

[cruise4]

Something that gets me lately is the quiz shows. There seem to be an awful lot of them with really naff prizes... like win £500, or £1000, or even £10,000.
Now everyone likes a bit of extra money.... but winning is bringing forth tears and effervescent thanking that makes my stomach crawl.

Its like the slaves in a pen being thankful for a plate of bugs or something. This amount of money is nothing today. Sad and pathetic.

Its just more of the 'strive for media status' to be someone, like X factor, or Big Brother.

Again, if this is NWO inspired, and I'm sure it is, they have no chance of winning, they are too crap at most things they get up to. There is genius at work, but its in no way an all-knowing genius.

Can't wait for their UFO invasion ploy. Should be a laugh a minute.

[kuro]

that's a really good analysis of big brother! Promise me none of you will give in to the chip and other shit if they try and implement these things in to everyday life

[hagbard_celine]

that's a really good analysis of big brother! Promise me none of you will give in to the chip and other shit if they try and implement these things in to everyday life

I promise.:)

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/jungle/0212_cerys.shtml

As one writer put it: "Who needs a new plot if the ones we've got keep 'em happy?"

The story sounds fake and contrived, with all the devices and nuances as the others I've already mentioned above. I've written more here: (background: http://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2007/10/ive-recently-written-here-about-fake.html) . I can't see how Cerys can really be worried about hurting Sarah's feelings, seeing as Sarah is bound to be briefed in, just like Darren Day's girlfriend was. All Sarah has to worry about now is Marc and Cerys falling in love for real like Peter and Jodan did!

[astral_girl]

[QUOTE=hagbard_celine;171391]I’ve recently written here about the fake Blue Peter phone-in. It’s almost too incredible to believe that such and audacious and subterfuge is going on, but it gets worse, far worse! The notion that Peter Andre and Katie Price, aka Jordan, are not a real couple is rife today, and that’s encouraging because it means people are suspicious of the Conformist Regime’s media and don’t swallow it whole and unquestioned.

In a recent TV interview Jordan was asked about the conspiracy theories surrounding her and Peter and she replied: “We’ve got our third kid now; how long will it be before these people accept that we’re a real couple?” I myself don’t doubt that they are a real couple today; what I dispute is how their relationship began in the first place.

They met in a most unusual and sensational manner. They were both contestants on the Reality TV show I’m a Celebrity- Get Me Out of Here!I’ve become convinced that Reality TV is actually government mind control and Conformist propaganda, as I've written elswhere. Peter and Jordan were total strangers when they arrived at the show’s location. Almost immediately they were holding hands and cuddling. The two became the subject of nationwide gossip and Jordan’s current casual beau traveled all the way from Britain to the show’s location in Australia to invade the set and “punch Peter’s lights out.”. In her 2004 autobiography, Being Jordan, Jordan describes how she and Peter were instantly smitten. Here I suspect she is lying. One of the most important things Reality TV needs to be successful and keep the viewers watching is conflict and confrontation among the contestants or some kind of crisis or scandal. Nobody will bother tuning in to see ten people getting along like a house on fire! Viewing figures soar when things “go wrong”. I put these words in quotes because it’s not a case of “going wrong” it’s one of “going right”. The producers very much want these incidents to break out… so much so that I doubt if they’d leave the prospect of one doing so to chance. I think that the coming together of Peter and Jordan was staged.

As I watched the two strolling round the jungle hand-in-hand I recalled a similar incident in the first series involving the actor Darren Day and “it girl” Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. The two had an affair on-set. Darren’s’ girlfriend was interviewed on GMTV about what she thought and I was amazed at how unperturbed she sounded. Then it struck me: the whole thing was a set-up! Darren and Tara were only pretending to be lovers and Darren’s girlfriend was in on it. The same staged incident was arranged for Peter and Jordan and Jordan’s current boyfriend (and I dare say Peter’s partner too, if he had one) was briefed in. There was something very insincere and forced about Peter and Jordan’s on-screen petting. Jordan’s boyfriend’s anger also looked very fake as he stepped off the plane in Australia. Whatever other talents they might have they are definitely not actors. What the show’s producers, and I dare say Jordan’s boyfriend, never counted on was Peter and Jordan falling in love for real after the TV show was finished! They’re a real couple now; it’s beyond doubt. They live together and go everywhere together and have children. Personally I wish them luck.

The fakery and stagecraft on TV is of a depth and scale that is almost beyond belief. So-called documentaries and real life are as scripted and designed as much as any movie, drama or soap opera. TV producers can make films of people reading scripts and acting out preassigned roles and characters; and then go ahead and present it to the viewing public as a factual record of true life. There is no law that prevents them from doing this. Sometimes their machinations are exposed, as with Blue Peter and Family Confidential, but how much else do they get away with? What proportion of their chicanery slips through the net? The two examples I gave could be the tip of a huge and very sinister iceberg. If TV producers are presenting fictional material as fact and news then how can we trust them to tell us the truth about anything?[/QUOTE

i thought it was really romantic tbh:p
i think they make a good match :D

[hagbard_celine]

i thought it was really romantic tbh:p
i think they make a good match :D

They do. I'm sure they are a real couple now and I'm very happy for them. I wish them luck.

Their filmed meeting might be romantic, but it was fake. It was romantic in the same way a Barbara Cartland novel is.

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/janice_turner/article2980262.ece

I heard about this a few days ago and it upset me, but didn't surprise me.

What happened was that Heat magazine published an article teasing Jordan's 5-year-old son Harvey. It said he was overweight and even gave out stickers showing the boy's face and the words "Harvey wants to eat me!" Harvey has actually got a congenital disease that makes him overweight; it also stunts his growth and has left him blind. Heat has apologized, but Jordan wants to take the matter further and sue them. I don't blame her!

It's amazing how we see celebrities and treat them in ways we'd never treat "ordinary people". It's as if they're not even human. These magazines showing shameful beach-shots of stars showing their flab or with sand in their knickers make me sick. They had an editor from one of these mags on TV and she said: "Before you feel sorry for them, remember they're being paid up to £4 million a time for a photoshoot." So does that mean if you're rich then you're automatically deprived of all the rules of human respect and dignity? :confused:

This sounds like envy to me! We're so focused on The One Goal of Life! money, status and fame are the only things which matter. Therefore thlose who have achived them are effectively living in Heaven! In fact this is not the case at all. rates of depression and suicide among the very rich are far higher than the average; if being rich and famous was paradise then those rates would be lower.

[steevo]

I heard about this a few days ago and it upset me, but didn't surprise me.

What happened was that Heat magazine published an article teasing Jordan's 5-year-old son Harvey. It said he was overweight and even gave out stickers showing the boy's face and the words "Harvey wants to eat me!" Harvey has actually got a congenital disease that makes him overweight; it also stunts his growth and has left him blind. Heat has apologized, but Jordan wants to take the matter further and sue them. I don't blame her!



They used to use those tactics in nazi germany. If you ever saw "Nazi's a Warning From History" (strange how that program doesnt get aired as much as it used to). The propaganda machine in Nazi Germany used to ridicule people in that way and the people they ridiculed were seen as "sub-human" by the population.

It's absolutely disgraceful that the media is allowed to put human beings down like that especially a 5 year old kid. It beggars belief.

(Let me just point out that I dont believe EVERYTHING of the OFFICIAL STORY of WW2. I have to say this because otherwise I get accused of being brainwashed. I used to believe in the official story when I was alot younger but even then I had my doubts.)

[hagbard_celine]

They used to use those tactics in nazi germany. If you ever saw "Nazi's a Warning From History" (strange how that program doesnt get aired as much as it used to). The propaganda machine in Nazi Germany used to ridicule people in that way and the people they ridiculed were seen as "sub-human" by the population.

It's absolutely disgraceful that the media is allowed to put human beings down like that especially a 5 year old kid. It beggars belief.

(Let me just point out that I dont believe EVERYTHING of the OFFICIAL STORY of WW2. I have to say this because otherwise I get accused of being brainwashed. I used to believe in the official story when I was alot younger but even then I had my doubts.)


I've just started to look into WWII, but I've already concluded that much of the official history of the war is a fabrication.

It says a lot about society in general that mass media can descend to these levels. Degrading a little boy who's seriously disabled!?:mad: If Harvey was my kid or yours it would be unthinkable, but because he's Jordan's son it's good popular fun!:mad: We're so twisted and engorged with envy and bitterness! Hatred, there's no other word for it, of the rich and famous comes from our obsessive focus on the material and conventional.