Has Anyone tried Salvia?

[truthseeker1980]

Has anyone tried or know anyone who has tried Salvia. It is legal and very interesting to try just once or twice, most people wont want to try any more times than that as below explains.

The initital trip is really intense, more intense than any LSD or mushroom trip, but will only last for around 10 minutes maximum.

If you haven't tried it, then it can only be done through a bong or nothing will happen.

Once the salvia takes affect you are thrown into trip like no other, the only way I can describe it, is as if you are between the dimensions, with the ability to see all of them. Light colours seem to rotate on different frequency fields to dark colours and it's almost as if you can peel away layers of colour, depth and reality. I didn't like it, most peope who try it, will only do it a few times to try to find themselves and work out our reality.

The description David gives of all dimensions in one and the matrix, becomes much clearer whilst on the trip, although it does feel as if you are being watched and that what you are doing is wrong throughout the whole trip. This is not just the case with myself, but every single person I know who has tried it, has said the same. Which is one of the reasons, you willl only want to dabble with the dimension twisting salvia a few times.

Anyone else tried it? If so what did you experience?

[midwich cuckoo]

Yes I tried salvia, but only once, in fact I still have just over half a vial left after 1 and a half years, I'll never use it again!. I'll try and put into words what I experienced:

I was alone and I fired up my bong, I took a large hit, and placed the bong on the table...

Wham, it hit me, my whole body was tingling and not in a good way, it was like a very bad case of pins and needles, even my face was affected. I suddenly became very heavy and I collapsed onto the couch, I was being pulled into the couch, my jaw felt as if it was going to break, my whole body felt as if something really heavy was sitting on me all over.

I seemed to have no memory of smoking the salvia, I actually thought I had died somehow!. Next came the 'voice' I was told that my whole life was a big joke and that reality wasn't what I thought it was.

Suddenly I found myself being put into a large 'envelope', just like a letter, a 'bulldog clip' (stationary item) was placed over the entire length of my body, effectively 'cutting' my body in 2. Then I found myself at a railway station, it seemed I was being mailed to an unknown location!. Very strange indeed!.

All this lasted for about 10 minutes, there was a lot more to it than I have described, but words fail me, it was unexplainable!. As I came down to earth as it where, I knew right away that I was never going to smoke this stuff again.

I was in physical shock for 2 days after and felt extremely depressed. It wasn't so much the hallucinations that troubled me, it was the thoughts and feelings I experienced that put me off.

Even though I am very experienced in LSD, mushrooms and various other drugs, nothing prepared me for this experience. I am so glad it only lasted for 10 minutes for I fear I could have went permanently insane!. :(

[truthseeker1980]

I agree, the envelope decription is bang on, my friend who i was with, was outside on the patio and the doorway turned into an envelope and he couldnt get inside, the house as it kept folding over and over.

I also went to a station and each time railway arches were involved and the feeling that i was being naughty at school.

I forgot about the feeling of being pushed/rested upon by a weight. I would describe it as a big tongue licking me, without the moisture, although you do break out in alot of sweat, but i the bulldog clip is as good an explaination as that, it's really difficult to put into words.

I certainly will not be doing it again either.

[midwich cuckoo]

Athough I'll never do it again, I'm glad I did. When I think back, it makes me realise just how fragile our 'reality' is.

Even though it was hard to handle, it was an experience I'm glad to have had. :)

Makes me wonder where I was being 'mailed' to!?. :D

[seamus]

I have only the accounts of a friend's own experience, and his witnessing of another's experience. These two stories alone make me never want to go anywhere near that stuff.

My friend "Joe": He took the hit and was flung to the floor, rolled across the floor onto the couch, and then the wall opposite turned into a black hole that started pulling him in. He heard maniacal laughter and was frightened beyond description. Most of the trip was spent trying to keep from being sucked into the hole.

Joe was at a party and saw another man take the hit. He started flipping himself over and over, bloodying his head, bouncing around the room, eventually out the door and flipping (as if someone were Judo-flipping him) all the while yelling for help. When the man came down he said he was inside a big pink bubble and was just bouncing around inside the bubble.

NO THANKS!


s

[jinjo5]

Has anyone tried or know anyone who has tried Salvia. It is legal and very interesting to try just once or twice, most people wont want to try any more times than that as below explains.

The initital trip is really intense, more intense than any LSD or mushroom trip, but will only last for around 10 minutes maximum.

If you haven't tried it, then it can only be done through a bong or nothing will happen.

Once the salvia takes affect you are thrown into trip like no other, the only way I can describe it, is as if you are between the dimensions, with the ability to see all of them. Light colours seem to rotate on different frequency fields to dark colours and it's almost as if you can peel away layers of colour, depth and reality. I didn't like it, most peope who try it, will only do it a few times to try to find themselves and work out our reality.

The description David gives of all dimensions in one and the matrix, becomes much clearer whilst on the trip, although it does feel as if you are being watched and that what you are doing is wrong throughout the whole trip. This is not just the case with myself, but every single person I know who has tried it, has said the same. Which is one of the reasons, you willl only want to dabble with the dimension twisting salvia a few times.

Anyone else tried it? If so what did you experience?

Ive tried saliva.:D

[losangelesgraffiti]

i tryed salvia its cool for a one time think or even to trick ur buddys but its not something you wanna do alott.

[jinjo5]

I have only the accounts of a friend's own experience, and his witnessing of another's experience. These two stories alone make me never want to go anywhere near that stuff.

My friend "Joe": He took the hit and was flung to the floor, rolled across the floor onto the couch, and then the wall opposite turned into a black hole that started pulling him in. He heard maniacal laughter and was frightened beyond description. Most of the trip was spent trying to keep from being sucked into the hole.

Joe was at a party and saw another man take the hit. He started flipping himself over and over, bloodying his head, bouncing around the room, eventually out the door and flipping (as if someone were Judo-flipping him) all the while yelling for help. When the man came down he said he was inside a big pink bubble and was just bouncing around inside the bubble.

NO THANKS!


s
Ive never tried any kind of drug and dont want to either.I sometimes wonder what the experiences people have when they use mind-altering drugs,has youve described above.Are they experiencing something totally created by their own mind or are people tapping in to something real?

[roxanna]

Can anyone tell me what salvia is exactly?

[midwich cuckoo]

Can anyone tell me what salvia is exactly?

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/images/salvia_summary1.jpg

Salvia divinorum is a sprawling perennial herb which grows wild only in the Sierra Mazatec region of Mexico. It's leaves contain the extremely potent salvinorin-A. It has a history of use as a divinatory psychedelic for oral use and has been widely available since the mid 1990s primarily as a smoked herb. Its effects are considered unpleasant by many people.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/

[roxanna]

Hey, thanks midwich. I thought I knew of all the drugs out there. Anyway doesnt seem like something Ill be trying.

[thirdwave]

hit salvia in you tube and check out people on salvia ..quite funny :)

[markhowie]

Aloha all
(not so sure where to start)
salvia like mushrooms or dmt is not a recreational drug (for me), for those wishing to partake in these sorts of mind opening , altered states of percepion i sugest that they find an experienced guide (like going to a diferent city on a diferent planet it is good to have a guide , specialy if you are only going for a short while, you might want to explore some of the most interesting places) like a shaman or at least some experienced freind who will at the very least stay strait and whatch over your body.....!

???...intention...???

@+ mark

[infinitelove]

My salvia experiences have been pretty good. Uncontrollable laughter and my head twisting to one side (not as good as the laughter). reality very different.
My brother did it when on ecstasy and had a frightening time. Everything he looked at became the only thing he saw eg if he looked at someone's face, the whole room was filled with that face countless times.
My boyfriend hated it -though he did a very strong variety and 2 bongs of it. He saw the sides of his vision falling away and was trying to hold on to me as he thought he was going to die. He kept facing the wall, standing in the corner - I thought he'd lost his mind.
Anyway all different experiences - try it and see - I like it!

[thorleyart]

Ive never tried any kind of drug and dont want to either.I sometimes wonder what the experiences people have when they use mind-altering drugs,has youve described above.Are they experiencing something totally created by their own mind or are people tapping in to something real?

Everything is created by your own mind

[thorleyart]

Its effects are considered unpleasant by many people.

I think you'll find the opposite to be true, just look at the countless videos of people smoking it on you tube.

[dmt head]

Everything is created by your own mind

Thats a matter of opinion I think. I read somwhere that salvia was created by the illuminati, like why is it legal and other better drugs arent??

[thorleyart]

Thats a matter of opinion I think. I read somwhere that salvia was created by the illuminati, like why is it legal and other better drugs arent??

What a load of dogshit

[ashyr]

ahahha yeah we just made this plant outof nothing.

everything is something. and fixed. and permanent.

how can anything new be created? its all just lego man.

but when your not thinking of it. instead of the lego blocks messing up your room. they zap back inside there storage containers lol


there is many threads here about SALVIA man. its awesome stuff. not for the easily scared.

[dmt head]

What a load of dogshit

Whats a load of dogshit?? that the illuminati created salvia?? I actually should have been more specific i meant the extracts.

And if you mean other dimensions well how do you know there not real??

[seer74]

OK yup I've tried Salvia, years ago as well as many other psychedelics. I think meditation is better.

I think what you experience in a psychedelic state is partly tapping into higher states of consciousness and partly generated by your own mind.

I think these things being THINGS are really just part of the matrix, and reinforce the illusion that higher consciousness can be bestowed by THINGS outside of oneself.

Please see my posts on the DMT thread, and also on another thread about Salvia Divinorum found on the matrix/nature of reality forum

I hope people new to info on these forums do not get the impression that we're all a just bunch of drug-heads with drug-induced fantasys. I think that the discussion of drug experiences is inappropriate for this forum and can be made to discredit our views in general.

[dmt head]

I hope people new to info on these forums do not get the impression that we're all a just bunch of drug-heads with drug-induced fantasys. I think that the discussion of drug experiences is inappropriate for this forum and can be made to discredit our views in general

Why is it inapropriate?? Didnt you just mention freedom of speech in the DMT thread? So what is this forum for then ? NWO and Lizard talk and thats it yes?? Didnt icke take ayahuasca?? It is called davidickeforums, so why would talking about these things be innapropriate? :confused:

[seer74]

Why is it inapropriate?? Didnt you just mention freedom of speech in the DMT thread? So what is this forum for then ? NWO and Lizard talk and thats it yes?? Didnt icke take ayahuasca?? It is called davidickeforums, so why would talking about these things be innapropriate? :confused:

i know, I know. And I'm sorry yes, you can talk about whatever you want, and its even related. I'm just concerned is all. again, I just don't want people to think we're all "just tripping". feel me?

[carlg1212]

I like saliva. But not too much, or it gets sloppy. Saliva's a good lubricant. :)

[tejas]

OK yup I've tried Salvia, years ago as well as many other psychedelics. I think meditation is better.

I think what you experience in a psychedelic state is partly tapping into higher states of consciousness and partly generated by your own mind.

I think these things being THINGS are really just part of the matrix, and reinforce the illusion that higher consciousness can be bestowed by THINGS outside of oneself.

Please see my posts on the DMT thread, and also on another thread about Salvia Divinorum found on the matrix/nature of reality forum

I hope people new to info on these forums do not get the impression that we're all a just bunch of drug-heads with drug-induced fantasys. I think that the discussion of drug experiences is inappropriate for this forum and can be made to discredit our views in general.

Meditation in itself is a construct of the mind. When one meditates certain areas of the brain activates, certain chemicals are realeased, certain neurotransmitters are inhibited. In this way both the meditative action and the drug induced action bears a physical reaction-system. Which one is more correct?

[spirit is corrupt]

meh . . . . . . . . nought wrong with giving things a whirl id say . . . . if you don't like it don't do it again.

I agree about the illusion of things outside of ourselves providing us with the key to higher levels of conciousness and to new perspectives on reality, though i would say that these things certainly have there place.

Meditation, yoga and all manner of other things that are not 'external' i think are better . . . .

ive tried it twice - once i was stupidly drunk, puffed too much and awoke to being carried to the sofa by my friends and having dribble wiped of my face . . .quite scary

the other time was quite hilarious - clutching the pages of reality as they floated across my path, trying to avoid the hole in the middle of the room all whilst trying to content with a gale force wind . . . . . .

been there, got the T-shirt - personally i don't feel it warrants as much investigation as mushrooms or acid

Its an experience though - good or bad - so id recommend trying it once . . . . ain't that what life is all about?

[seer74]

meh . . . . . . . . nought wrong with giving things a whirl id say . . . . if you don't like it don't do it again.

I agree about the illusion of things outside of ourselves providing us with the key to higher levels of conciousness and to new perspectives on reality, though i would say that these things certainly have there place.

Meditation, yoga and all manner of other things that are not 'external' i think are better . . . .

ive tried it twice - once i was stupidly drunk, puffed too much and awoke to being carried to the sofa by my friends and having dribble wiped of my face . . .quite scary

the other time was quite hilarious - clutching the pages of reality as they floated across my path, trying to avoid the hole in the middle of the room all whilst trying to content with a gale force wind . . . . . .

been there, got the T-shirt - personally i don't feel it warrants as much investigation as mushrooms or acid

Its an experience though - good or bad - so id recommend trying it once . . . . ain't that what life is all about?

nice post LOL especially the second trip. actually my own experiences with salvia divinorum were way beyond ANYTHING acid OR mushrooms ever did. I mean salvia gave me a far more profound glimpse of the infinite. I do tell some of my salvia experience on another thread on the same subject under Matrix/Nature of reality. Again, I traded in psychedelic drugs for meditation years ago. And yes, why not give it a whirl?? Its all a matter of where you take it once you've had some experience. Be all drugged up all the time?? well, I don't see how you could stay on something as fleeting as salvia anyway, but now I'm getting into drugs in general.

Again I hope that people new to the info on this forum don't think we're all just getting our ideas from drugs.

[dmt head]

i know, I know. And I'm sorry yes, you can talk about whatever you want, and its even related. I'm just concerned is all. again, I just don't want people to think we're all "just tripping". feel me?

Yeah mate know what your saying just jumped in there :)


Again I hope that people new to the info on this forum don't think we're all just getting our ideas from drugs.

I got most of my ideas from Icke, really changed my perceptions though I did think things arent exactly as your told in school but psychadelics helped me on my personal voyage of discovery and I would recomend them to people if they want to go down that path, they do help you understand the nature of reality to an extent but there stil not going to do much against the NWO/Illuminati which is real, here now real in this reality.

Asked this in the matrix/nature of reality thread about creating our own reality, why would I create this reality and the feedback I got was generally its more a collective thing so maybe if the whole world took up meditation, tried mushrooms DMT whatever we would change whats happening on the outside, thats not going to happen and I really dont beleive psychadelics or meditation can change things here physically, well if efveryone took them it could, so what do you guys think ? Only thing ive found to do something is orgonite or maybe 2012 will happen and well ascend and remember what we truly are, sorry kind of going off topic. Lots of questions ! :)

[seer74]

Yeah mate know what your saying just jumped in there :)



I got most of my ideas from Icke, really changed my perceptions though I did think things arent exactly as your told in school but psychadelics helped me on my personal voyage of discovery and I would recomend them to people if they want to go down that path, they do help you understand the nature of reality to an extent but there stil not going to do much against the NWO/Illuminati which is real, here now real in this reality.

Asked this in the matrix/nature of reality thread about creating our own reality, why would I create this reality and the feedback I got was generally its more a collective thing so maybe if the whole world took up meditation, tried mushrooms DMT whatever we would change whats happening on the outside, thats not going to happen and I really dont beleive psychadelics or meditation can change things here physically, well if efveryone took them it could, so what do you guys think ? Only thing ive found to do something is orgonite or maybe 2012 will happen and well ascend and remember what we truly are, sorry kind of going off topic. Lots of questions ! :)

I do not buy into the idea that ANYTHING is going to change this dimension. The world we live in a LOW frequency, everything we experience here on Earth is generated by this frequency. We can adjust our OWN frequency to higher dimensions and in so doing leave this dense "reality" behind, remember what we truly are etc. etc.

Now the more of us become aware, the more of us have the opportunity to raise our frequencys and get out of this imaginary prison we're in.
If we change ourselves, we change the Illuminati, because "they" are really "us". And in so doing THIS WORLD CEASES to EXIST, because it never really DID in the first place.

Since this realm of being is a particular frequency how can anything change the frequency of this frequency? I differ from a lot of people in that I do not believe something happened to the earth to knock it down to this frequency, nor that anything will ever lift the earth to a higher frequency. The earth IS this frequency, "always" was; "always" will be. On the bright side, WE are NOT OF this frequency, we are simply ON this frequency (much like being ON some kind of drug!!!) What we CAN do is elevate the frequency of the mind as we remember this isn't real.

[dmt head]

So you think that this frequency will just continue then and its down to the individual to raise their own frequency then yes? But then everyone isnt going to realise its an illusion so it will continue to exist then wouldnt it ?

I agree that they are really us as were all one I think but they want this so it wont cease to exist then yes?

[seer74]

So you think that this frequency will just continue then and its down to the individual to raise their own frequency then yes? But then everyone isnt going to realise its an illusion so it will continue to exist then wouldnt it ?

I agree that they are really us as were all one I think but they want this so it wont cease to exist then yes?

that ALL depends on how you look at it :D does it exist even now?:D

[dmt head]

Ahhhh touche lol :D

[seamus]

Well howdy...

I tried Salvia for the first (anmd second) time this past week The first time I got the repeat image experience that infinitelove talked about. Pretty weird, I heard a female voice talking to me. Perhaps that was merely the power of suggestion, as I had heard some things that Terence McKenna had said on the subject. Part of that trip that was particularly weird was that my field of vision filled with these little soft-curved swastika-like shapes (with the arms bending clockwise) that were red and white. But there was nothing red in the room! I told the ally that I was not interested in going to the circus. (somehow it seemed kind of "clowny")

The second trip was very different. I was in a quiet dark place (instead of muted lighting and the hum of nearby idling diesel trucks) and my character flaws came to confront me. I was humbled as I had been in the past by mushrooms and LSD, with the knowledge that I do not respect others yet as I ought to do, and that I look (wrongly) to others for fulfilment. This trip's message for me was very strongly that I need to look within for answers to my problems, and do so fearlessly. I have a sun inside me, as do you all, and when I can be at peace in the light of my own sun, rather than looking outside for some other light to validate mine, I will have reached a much greater level of enlightenment.

Also very much evident in this second trip was the impression that my friends were nearby, even present with me. I spoke to my brother a little bit about this trip and he mentioned that one time he had listened to Led Zeppelin's "Gallows' Pole" while on salvia once, and he was certain that Robert Plant was right there in the room with him.

Salvia is a true psychedelic. It makes manifest the things of the soul, it brings to fore the thoughts of the heart and gives them a living, breathing reality.

I am glad to have become acquainted with the Shepherdess. I feel she will do me no harm.

Peace,
s

[paganus]

where do you obtain salvia?

[seamus]

google "salvia (nearest big town or city)" minus the quotes and you should find something. if not, most head shops carry it or know where to get it.

Peace!

s

P.S. I think it's bollocks that the illuminati would create extracts of this herb. they promote increased awareness of one's place in reality when used CORRECTLY (something they do not want)

[auron]

Everything you need to know about salvia, can be found here:

http://www.sagewisdom.org/

:)

[angeldust]

Hey there folks, I have been a good girl until recently only having the odd smoke, but about a month ago we tried salvia, And being a little worried i think it showed... My experiance was not so bad, but a little worrying what my inner self was saying to me.
Everything went in to block colours (you know like in simpsons!) and it was like i was in a fish bowl everything i was seeing was curved, and my poor hubby had goggle fish eyes which i found extremely funny. And yes it did only last about 10 mins
Personally i don't think it's some thing to do alot but i am looking forward to trying it with meditation

Dusty :D

[ashyr]

Whats a load of dogshit?? that the illuminati created salvia?? I actually should have been more specific i meant the extracts.

And if you mean other dimensions well how do you know there not real??

your contradicting yourself.

how can something be NOT REAL?

for something to exist it will exist for ever, and has always existed,
for something to not exist. it will never exist. and has never existed.

[paganus]

google "salvia (nearest big town or city)" minus the quotes and you should find something. if not, most head shops carry it or know where to get it.

Peace!

s

P.S. I think it's bollocks that the illuminati would create extracts of this herb. they promote increased awareness of one's place in reality when used CORRECTLY (something they do not want)
thanks!:)

[paolo]

where do you obtain salvia?
This obviously commercial site, which also has a very useful forum, for web purchase. Very good and efficient service and high quality. I could offer some more ethical alternatives
http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/productCategory.cfm?iProductCategoryID=89

[dmt head]

your contradicting yourself.

how can something be NOT REAL?

for something to exist it will exist for ever, and has always existed,
for something to not exist. it will never exist. and has never existed.


fair enough, the other guy doesnt know or cant say for fact that these places dont exist literally though

[cytro]

For some odd reason I ALWAYS revert back to a "Child" when smoking Salvia - I have this "Devine Childhood/like feeling."

My very first experience was straight out of the cartoon Fantasia - I became a 6 ft. flower and was transported to this "cartoon Fantasia/Alice in Wonderland type reality." I can always "feel" my brothers and sisters in Salvia Space - I can't describe it. "Mother" Salvia literally wrapped her vinelike arms around me and pulled me back out of her reality and I was back to this reality :-/ Crazy Shit.

This last Salvia trip I had - I didn't fully break through however I was listening to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" and I literally became apart of this musical colaboration - Eclipse was on and I could feel the singers and everything - We meshed together and I SWEAR that last saying "Everything under the sun is in tune - But the sun is eclipsed by the moon." I heard it to be "But the SOUND is eclipsed by the moon?" It was really weird - I was thrown in together w/ the music and I could feel their presences and - It's difficult to explain HaHa

I have yet to get used to the Vaccuum like feeling of it pulling me from the top of my head - I really dislike that part :-p

[drael]

Ive plenty of experience with drugs. Some enlightening, some dark. Be careful is my advice. Psycedelics do show truth, but they also make u vulnerable. Salvia is a weird one also, the visions and experience is a little dark, and alot out of control. Of course, do as you will, but i felt the need to say this - its a strange world we live in these days...