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quester123
23-10-2007, 06:53 PM
Banksy works to be painted over

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'Jack & Jill' by Banksy
Several Banksy artworks are going on sale this week in London
Graffiti art by the acclaimed artist Banksy on streets in Tower Hamlets is to be painted over.

Stencilled artwork from the guerrilla artist can be seen on walls across London, but Tower Hamlets is the first council to treat them as vandalism.

The plan comes as 11 pieces of the artist's work go on sale on Wednesday.

Banksy, from Bristol, made his name with public art and subversive stunts. His works now sell for hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The actress Angelina Jolie reportedly bought one of his works for more than £200,000.

Eleven of Banksy's stencilled artworks go on sale on Wednesday at Bonham's auction house in Knightsbridge.


We need to be clear here, graffiti is a crime
Tower Hamlets councillor Abdal Ullah

A piece, commissioned by rock band Blur for their 2003 album Think Tank, recently sold in London for £300,000, Gareth Williams of Bonhams said.

A spokeswoman for Tower Hamlets Council said it had not thought of selling the potentially valuable artwork to help raise money for council services, but did not rule out such action being considered in the future.

A statement said: "Tower Hamlets Council takes the cleanliness of the borough very seriously and is committed to removing all graffiti as soon as possible.

"Whilst some graffiti is considered to be art, we know that many of our residents think graffiti in areas where they live, such as local housing estates, is an eyesore."

Tower Hamlets councillor Abdal Ullah said: "We need to be clear here, graffiti is a crime.

"It spoils the environment, makes our neighbourhoods feel less safe, and costs thousands of pounds each year to clean - money that could instead be paying for valuable local services."

It is not yet known how many of the artist's works would be affected.

The future of a Banksy piece painted on a wall in Bristol recently went to public vote, with 97% of people saying it should be kept.

adimon
23-10-2007, 08:32 PM
I personally would prefer not to have some person's art on the side of a building or wall. If I want to look at art there are galleries and books and the net.

He's obviously loaded now, which is why most of these 'artists' try and get into it anyway. They start out as being unknown, then they're cult artists, then massive demand, they sell out and buy a jag and a house in Hampstead and get married and settle down. Another young art-school drop out emerges, and the cycle continues. It's been happening for centuries, and I don't care cuz I take no part in the big art con. Just leave the buildings alone.

culturecreator
23-10-2007, 09:49 PM
[QUOTE=adimon;169200]I personally would prefer not to have some person's art on the side of a building or wall. If I want to look at art there are galleries and books and the net.[QUOTE]

Guess you would of hated being a caveman then.
I think the work 'Banksy' did was great.
The way the world is going, in 10 to 20 years time you will get your wish, creativity and individuality will be long dead, and I hope you will be happy.
I totally disagree with you.
I don't want to live in a sterile police state, which is all pristine white and spotless.
For example, surely any wall with say '911 was an inside job' written on it, is both art and a good thing, especially if it makes even one person stop, think and question the event. Because their not going to hear about it on the 6 o'clock news, thats for sure.

quester123
23-10-2007, 10:02 PM
well the way I see and understand things, political satire has been used throughout history as a form of expression in repressive times.

I bet they won't be painting over the large corporate symbolic logos and massive billboard advertisements which are literally plastered everywhere...
I personally find those to be offensive:eek:

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Cordial Felicitations:

Artisticaly inclined myself, I am not unbiased. That said: LUV Banksy.

Brilliant! Creative! Profound!

Best thing that ever happened to the: "Wall of Shame & Hate" in Israel.

I would not 'object' to his work on any of my property.

I would 'Preserve' it.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

adimon
23-10-2007, 10:41 PM
The way the world is going, in 10 to 20 years time you will get your wish, creativity and individuality will be long dead, and I hope you will be happy.
I totally disagree with you.
I don't want to live in a sterile police state, which is all pristine white and spotless.

My wish is not for all individuality or creativity to die, and thinking this could happen is very defeatist, IMHO.

If it's a community decision to want the walls decorated, then that's ok and they can have what they want drawn on there. It's the idea of someone just coming along and doing it which I find wrong. Who's to say anyone would want it. If I painted Giger-esque paintings I'm sure they wouldn't be to everyone's taste.

For example, surely any wall with say '911 was an inside job' written on it, is both art and a good thing, especially if it makes even one person stop, think and question the event. Because their not going to hear about it on the 6 o'clock news, thats for sure.

I take your point and agree, except for it being an 'inside job' - that term suggests to me that the government planned it, and I don't think they were directly involved.

well the way I see and understand things, political satire has been used throughout history as a form of expression in repressive times.

I bet they won't be painting over the large corporate symbolic logos and massive billboard advertisements which are literally plastered everywhere...
I personally find those to be offensive:eek:

I don't like all the logos either, but the corporations own those buildings and can do as they like. As for the sides of non-corporate buildings, it should be up to the community, not Banksy, what they look like.

quester123
23-10-2007, 10:56 PM
<<I don't like all the logos either, but the corporations own those buildings and can do as they like. As for the sides of non-corporate buildings, it should be up to the community, not Banksy, what they look like>>

Thanks for your thoughts...
Then by that I assume you mean council buildings & property paid for by we the tax payers?
Please do show me an example of a single Town Hall in the Uk which is not carved with masonic symbolism. Or perhaps we could start by taking a look at public road structures, viaducts, roundabouts & bridges...

joss classey
23-10-2007, 11:00 PM
banksy is an inspirational genius of our time

quester123
23-10-2007, 11:05 PM
banksy is an inspirational genius of our time

Thank you
I would personally prefer to see artwork pertaining political satire,:D than mass masonic & esoteric symbolism virtually everywhere I turn

adimon
23-10-2007, 11:40 PM
Please do show me an example of a single Town Hall in the Uk which is not carved with masonic symbolism.

Well the town hall where I live isn't but don't tell me...it has to be a certain age for you to include it...if it was built recently, then I guess you revert back to an older one?

quester123
23-10-2007, 11:48 PM
Well the town hall where I live isn't but don't tell me...it has to be a certain age for you to include it...if it was built recently, then I guess you revert back to an older one?

thank you
oh crikey no, it can be completely new, built last month for all I care...
just would like to see an example, thats all

kweli
23-10-2007, 11:57 PM
This kind of thing is happening all over the place. Buildings and places of character are being torn down, covered up, and for what? to make way for for a new housing development or a new Tesco f*cking Express! That's what's happening in the villages around me anyway

adimon
24-10-2007, 12:06 AM
thank you
oh crikey no, it can be completely new, built last month for all I care...
just would like to see an example, thats all

Ceredigion County Hall, Aberystwyth, unless I'm mistaken, has no noticeable masonic symbolism. I don't think the Welsh Assembly building does either. :)

quester123
24-10-2007, 12:04 PM
Ceredigion County Hall, Aberystwyth, unless I'm mistaken, has no noticeable masonic symbolism. I don't think the Welsh Assembly building does either. :)

Thanks
I'll add this to my ever increasing "to do" list

banjaxo
24-10-2007, 07:10 PM
check banksy out on ebay, the fella is a gold mine !