How can we get rid of the moon?

[freedomflores]

According to David's last book, the moon hacks the information received from the photons from the sun, then it re-sends that "pirate" signal onto us which distorts our decoding, right?

if the moon seems to be the problem here.. how do we get rid of it?

[apollo_gnomon]

If we call it in as illegally parked maybe it'll get towed away.

[moving finger]

Put it on 'ignore'.

[kappy0405]

David is a modern Gnostic. It's an allegory. The sun represents the Christ/Consciousnes (our oneness); the moon represents the Goddess/Psyche, which can either identify with Christ/Consciousness or can identify with the anti-Christ/Materialism. The Reptilians/Demons are archetypes for the negative energy/force of the universe, hence why they are said to control the Moon Matrix, leading us (our psyche) to identify with the anti-Christ/materialism & be stuck in the matrix.

Looking at the term Matrix.. going back to Maxwells 'Matrix of Power' or the movie 'the Matrix', it's basically a modern version of Plato's cave, which is allegorical for the physical world we live in.

We can 'get rid of the moon', so to speak, by transcending our ego's & seeking enlightenment. :)

[dogsmilk]

According to David's last book, the moon hacks the information received from the photons from the sun, then it re-sends that "pirate" signal onto us which distorts our decoding, right?

if the moon seems to be the problem here.. how do we get rid of it?

a/Build moonbase alpha populated by Martin Landau and chums
b/Store nuclear waste on the moon
c/It explodes
d/Moon moves out of orbit and flies off into space
e/Residents of moonbase alpha have an exciting adventure each week as they travel through space searching for a new home.
f/People realise all this stuff about photons and the moon and that is complete bullshit.

[number 6]

Call in Luke Skywalker and his X-Wing buddies.....

No wait.... "That's no moon......"

:)

[resistance]

Dear oh dear..what a silly thread. why would you want to get rid of the moon? I like the moon, leave it where it is, it's not really a space ship you know..

[joeman_0]

Dear oh dear..what a silly thread. why would you want to get rid of the moon? I like the moon, leave it where it is, it's not really a space ship you know..

lots of ancient shamans all over the world know there is something wrong with the moon. Even Christians from the Orthodox church said that. I tend to go with the assessment of shamans than scientists or people in the government.

[flyermay]

According to David's last book, the moon hacks the information received from the photons from the sun, then it re-sends that "pirate" signal onto us which distorts our decoding, right?

if the moon seems to be the problem here.. how do we get rid of it?

It's very easy: when the moon is on your side of the world,lock yourself at home, shut all the windows util it's pitch black, use only artificial lights, and you are safe from the pirate photons from the moon.

You can go out when the moon is on the other side of the earth; go shopping, get some fresh air, visit your friends, etc.

This way you will never be affected by hacked photons again; just genuine sunlight photonic information.

I'm doing it, and it works; I can see it all clear now. :)

David is a modern Gnostic. It's an allegory. The sun represents the Christ/Consciousnes (our oneness); the moon represents the Goddess/Psyche, which can either identify with Christ/Consciousness or can identify with the anti-Christ/Materialism. The Reptilians/Demons are archetypes for the negative energy/force of the universe, hence why they are said to control the Moon Matrix, leading us (our psyche) to identify with the anti-Christ/materialism & be stuck in the matrix.

Looking at the term Matrix.. going back to Maxwells 'Matrix of Power' or the movie 'the Matrix', it's basically a modern version of Plato's cave, which is allegorical for the physical world we live in.

We can 'get rid of the moon', so to speak, by transcending our ego's & seeking enlightenment. :)

And what about the odd physics about the moon, how is that allegorical?

[kappy0405]

And what about the odd physics about the moon, how is that allegorical?I haven't read the new book yet.. but I don't think the idea that he's being allegorical is negated by any amount of detail he goes into. Look at how detailed ancient Gnostic myths are, but the general message & philosophy was usually the same & ultimately pretty simple.

[joeman_0]

I haven't read the new book yet.. but I don't think the idea that he's being allegorical is negated by any amount of detail he goes into. Look at how detailed ancient Gnostic myths are, but the general message & philosophy was usually the same & ultimately pretty simple.

Read his book. It's worth reading.

It will save you some embarrasement when you talk about David Icke like that.

[kappy0405]

Read his book. It's worth reading.

It will save you some embarrasement when you talk about David Icke like that.

lol.. and why exactly should I be embarrased? :confused:

[tabea_blumenschein]

According to David's last book, the moon hacks the information received from the photons from the sun, then it re-sends that "pirate" signal onto us which distorts our decoding, right?

if the moon seems to be the problem here.. how do we get rid of it?

Should I make a serious attempt at an answer? :D

Okay, by my figures, the Moon circles the Earth at a velocity of about u = 1015 meters per second. If we assume a circular orbit, escape velocity from that orbit is orbital velocity times the square root of 2, or v = 1450 meters per second.

The increase in kinetic energy is:

Delta-KE = 1/2 * m * (v^2 - u^2)

The mass of the moon is m = 3.75 * 10^22 kg, so:

Delta-KE = 3.87 * 10^28 Joules

That's 9,200,000,000,000 Megatons. *

So if you can get 9.2 million million megatons of energy from somewhere and use it to increase the Moon's velocity with 100% efficiency, you'll soon be rid of the damn thing. ;)


Though, I think I'd miss the Moon if it were gone ... :(


* Also, if I worked it out correctly with E = mc^2, that's about the energy released if 215,000,000 metric tons of matter and 215,000,000 metric tons of antimatter were to come into contact and annihilate each other.

[hadabusa]

op, please educate yourself before talking bollocks.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


i was going to say"nukes", but this op is not funny, its very sad.

[hadabusa]

I tend to go with the assessment of shamans than scientists

fine.

but will you accept critique of ppl who rather go by scientists assesments?

[joeman_0]

fine.

but will you accept critique of ppl who rather go by scientists assesments?

Will I accept critique of people who are brainwashed? No.

Let me add one thing here. I have the benefit of being involved in a scientific community for many years, and I could have gotten my Ph.D. in physics if I had finished it. but I was just in it long enough to realize how insane and ridiculous "science" is. And the general public is brainwashed to put science in a pedastal.

there is nothing wrong with scientific inquiry, but science is completely infiltrated. The scientific community is lead down the wrong path.

While I was in it, one thing I realized is that most people in it are not interested in challenging assumptions. They are simply told what to do. A few professors do, but their reputation is on the line. But most professors who make it big are actually not the ones doing the work. Their grad students are, but they read scientic journals like they are infallible truths. The corporate research is even worse. Academic research is mostly driven by government entities who are interested in technologies we are not meant to know about. They decide whom to give money to and whom to withold money from.

But science today is mostly a bunch of isoteric abstract math. We can't even apply our intuition to them anymore. That's mostly because they are wrong.

[jackson82]

Will I accept critique of people who are brainwashed? No.

sigh

[ninorc]

Dear oh dear..what a silly thread. why would you want to get rid of the moon? I like the moon, leave it where it is, it's not really a space ship you know..Do you have definitive proof of that? It's a rhetorical question! Of course you don't, because there is no irrefutable explanation of how the moon came to be. Inconsistencies in the leading hypothesis, colloquially called 'Big Whack', are over looked, or explained by computer models predicated upon unsubstantiated assumptions.

As Halliday and Drake noted in their review, Colliding Theories, published in Science in 1999 (http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/283/5409/1861): 'Jay Melosh (University of Arizona) argued that we do not know the equations of state well enough to calculate the energy of such an impact and that we may have grossly underestimated them, to the point that specific dynamic models are currently unjustified.’

In fact, the theory first proposed by Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/moon_spaceship.htm), which Don Wilson expanded upon in Our Mysterious Spacehsip Moon is the only one that fits all the known facts. Of course, it seems ridiculous and members of the scientific establishment deter exploration of the idea by their ridicule. We're lucky, IMO, that these Soviet scientists, working during the Cold War era, weren't put off from thinking the unthinkable by the scorn of their peers. As they wrote:

'Abandoning the traditional paths of "common sense", we have plunged into what may at first sight seem to be unbridled and irresponsible fantasy. But the more minutely we go into all the information gathered by man about the Moon, the more we are convinced that there is not a single fact to rule out our supposition. Not only that, but many things so far considered to be lunar enigmas are explainable in the light of this new hypothesis.'

As for how the moon could be removed, I have no idea and can't imagine what the consequences might be.

[hadabusa]

Will I accept critique of people who are brainwashed? No.

Let me add one thing here. I have the benefit of being involved in a scientific community for many years, and I could have gotten my Ph.D. in physics if I had finished it. but I was just in it long enough to realize how insane and ridiculous "science" is. And the general public is brainwashed to put science in a pedastal.

there is nothing wrong with scientific inquiry, but science is completely infiltrated. The scientific community is lead down the wrong path.

While I was in it, one thing I realized is that most people in it are not interested in challenging assumptions. They are simply told what to do. A few professors do, but their reputation is on the line. But most professors who make it big are actually not the ones doing the work. Their grad students are, but they read scientic journals like they are infallible truths. The corporate research is even worse. Academic research is mostly driven by government entities who are interested in technologies we are not meant to know about. They decide whom to give money to and whom to withold money from.

But science today is mostly a bunch of isoteric abstract math. We can't even apply our intuition to them anymore. That's mostly because they are wrong.

think about what brainwashing is.....

not considering second opinions/other views.



btw, your computer, made by shaman or science?

yes, they get carried away at times, basing new theorys on previously etablished ones, wich were questionable sometimes.

science is "most likely thesis"=fact.

but atleast open2suggestions, but heres where money comes into play, research needs funding.creditors have interests etc.

but2dismiss it, is not smart.

[hadabusa]

Do you have definitive proof of that? It's a rhetorical question! Of course you don't, because there is no irrefutable explanation of how the moon came to be. Inconsistencies in the leading hypothesis, colloquially called 'Big Whack', are over looked, or explained by computer models predicated upon unsubstantiated assumptions.

As Halliday and Drake noted in their review, Colliding Theories, published in Science in 1999 (http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/283/5409/1861): 'Jay Melosh (University of Arizona) argued that we do not know the equations of state well enough to calculate the energy of such an impact and that we may have grossly underestimated them, to the point that specific dynamic models are currently unjustified.?

In fact, the theory first proposed by Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/moon_spaceship.htm), which Don Wilson expanded upon in Our Mysterious Spacehsip Moon is the only one that fits all the known facts. Of course, it seems ridiculous and members of the scientific establishment deter exploration of the idea by their ridicule. We're lucky, IMO, that these Soviet scientists, working during the Cold War era, weren't put off from thinking the unthinkable by the scorn of their peers. As they wrote:

'Abandoning the traditional paths of "common sense", we have plunged into what may at first sight seem to be unbridled and irresponsible fantasy. But the more minutely we go into all the information gathered by man about the Moon, the more we are convinced that there is not a single fact to rule out our supposition. Not only that, but many things so far considered to be lunar enigmas are explainable in the light of this new hypothesis.'

As for how the moon could be removed, I have no idea and can't imagine what the consequences might be.

ok, bigcrash theory isnt waterproof, but nobody says its dogma.

however, the more waterproof point is, wed all die wo the moon.

[asleepawake]

LOL

Firstly, I think we all need to acknowledge, that we are all scientist's. No phd's needed. Its the confusing energy that comes along with the word. Shamans are just experienced scientists of the spirit world. Theres no doubt the artificially created world of ''science'' is just another tool on the belt.

[hadabusa]

LOL

Firstly, I think we all need to acknowledge, that we are all scientist's. No phd's needed. Its the confusing energy that comes along with the word. Shamans are just experienced scientists of the spirit world. Theres no doubt the artificially created world of ''science'' is just another tool on the belt.

we humans created it , so we dont have2communicate like monkeys.

shamans have yet2make telepathy mainstream,so yeah.

[resistance]

lots of ancient shamans all over the world know there is something wrong with the moon. Even Christians from the Orthodox church said that. I tend to go with the assessment of shamans than scientists or people in the government.

I don't go by any assessments, I just havn't got a problem with the moon, I like looking at it sometimes..doesn't it control the oceans tides btw which is crucial to all life on earth..:)

[asleepawake]

we humans created it , so we dont have2communicate like monkeys.

shamans have yet2make telepathy mainstream,so yeah.

Yeah we created science......''BOX!!!'' We created the word science you mean.

If the only thing's that you see credible are only mainstream sources, what the fuck is the point??

So yeah.

[hadabusa]

Yeah we created science......''BOX!!!'' We created the word science you mean.

If the only thing's that you see credible are only mainstream sources, what the fuck is the point??

So yeah.

no, we created the system "science".

im sceptical of both science&shamans if it doesnt make sense what they spout.

but shamans spout more bs, worse then darkages clergymen.

[mooncrawler]

Keep in mind there is a relationship between the Moon and the female cycle. So if we get rid of the Moon, girls will have their periods forever, or never again.

[asleepawake]

You talk as if all shaman's are exact as are all scientists, why does it seem like you act as if you see stuff so skin deep, when your surrouned by so much aware people on this forum.

I can be a shaman or a scientist. I just made a quick thread about word and language, as I think its important to understand properly in order to increase awareness.

I'd bet my nutsack the original human didn't create the system of science, as we know it.

[joeman_0]

think about what brainwashing is.....

not considering second opinions/other views.



btw, your computer, made by shaman or science?

yes, they get carried away at times, basing new theorys on previously etablished ones, wich were questionable sometimes.

science is "most likely thesis"=fact.

but atleast open2suggestions, but heres where money comes into play, research needs funding.creditors have interests etc.

but2dismiss it, is not smart.

Do you consider 2nd opinion if someone tells you that the moon is made of cheese?

By the way, your writings are always hard to read. I don't care if English is not your first language. It is not mine either. If you want people to take you seriously, learn to write in proper English.

How old are you? You can't be more than 16.

[kappy0405]

wow, I think hadabusa is one of the few people on this forum that are, and should be, taken seriously, tbh..

[angelthecat]

computers may have been created by science, but the idea sarted with a dream, thats shamanism, a good mix of both worlds brings solutions. :D

back on topic to dystroy the effects of the moon EMP!:eek:

[hadabusa]

Do you consider 2nd opinion if someone tells you that the moon is made of cheese?

By the way, your writings are always hard to read. I don't care if English is not your first language. It is not mine either. If you want people to take you seriously, learn to write in proper English.

How old are you? You can't be more than 16.
yes, forward your cheese moon thesis, ill judge it after review.
is it fatfree?


oh, grammar judgement, of all ppl, from a science community dropout.ironic.

then you go on and say"be more then 16"<huge grammar error.



:)

awakeasleep, well, if not humans, who else invented science ? your nads?

:D

kappy, thx:o

[asleepawake]

Ahh you play dumb.

I should have known you were beyond logical discussion. That post count has gone to your head.