California wildfires

[amerigirl]

In Malibu & San Diego, look pretty bad this time around.......
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21405632/?GT1=10450
Flames consumed the landmark Castle Kashan, a stately fortress-like home with turrets and arched windows, as about a dozen residents watched from across a street. Chunks of brick fell from the exterior of the burning building overlooking the coast.

Erratic wind gusts hampered efforts to drop water from aircraft and pushed flames toward HRL Laboratories, a research and engineering facility jointly owned by Boeing Co. and General Motors Corp. about a mile north of Pepperdine. One outbuilding caught fire, Boeing spokeswoman Diana Ball said.

Flames engulfed Malibu Presbyterian Church, which had been evacuated, said youth pastor Eric Smith. "That's the really good news, that everyone's out and safe," Smith said.

Faculty and staff at the 830-acre Pepperdine campus had been urged to evacuate in the morning and students were instructed to gather in the school's cafeteria and basketball arena.

[teslafire]

I'm in a thicket of smoke here on the beach, and the fires are 30 miles east of me, its worse than I've ever seen it here.

The sunset was blood red and people kept saying it looked like armageddon

I haven't noticed it too much really since I'm a heavy smoker as is....seems a grand time to take a break, lol

[vera susa]

Have a look at this image;

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713441,00.jpg

Now is it just me, or do others also 'see' an image of 'Armageddon',
rather that one of CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES?

Devastation ...
a firefighter foams the home of Hollywood producer
Jeffrey Katzenberg in Malibu,
where a wildfire driven by powerful winds
has forced the evacuation of hundreds of homes / AP
Read story now



Stars not spared
as fires rage

By Tangi Quemener in Los Angeles

October 22, 2007 11:25am
Article from: Agence France-Presse
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22626608-1702,00.html

WILDFIRES have charred parts of the exclusive seaside town of Malibu
and forced evacuations of million-dollar homes of many top Hollywood stars, while a man has been killed fighting another southern California blaze.
(well at least the DEATH of "a man" who was FIGHTING THE FIRES
didn't have to wait too long too long to get some mention...FFS!)

Wind gusts of up to 100km/h fed the flames which devoured at least one church and several houses, forcing entire neighbourhoods to evacuate in
Malibu.

One person was killed and four firefighters were seriously injured while trying to protect a home from a wildfire in Potrero, near the Mexican border, 50km east of San Diego, the fire department said.

More than 500 firefighters (how many more? 47, 252...doesn't matter, it's the 500 "They" had to get in print, and you will notice that a great deal these days, the use of wild 'guesstimates' that always seem to end up "FITTING" the Occult 'message') were battling to contain the blazes, ]as fast-moving flames devoured hundreds of hectares of tree-lined hillsides and filled the area with thick smoke.

Thousands of students at Pepperdine University were evacuated from their dormitories and moved into the cafeteria in the central section of the campus, which is believed to be well-protected from threatening fires.

Nearby, the Malibu Presbyterian Church caught fire and burned to the ground - along with several private homes.

The blaze destroyed much of the Malibu Castle, also known as Hodge Castle, a hilltop landmark built in 1978 and put up for sale in March for $US17 million ($19m).

The famous Malibu Pier that appeared in the 1990s television series Baywatch was being sprayed by country patrol boats to protect it from the blowing embers.
(yep "a man" KILLED and private, ordinary folks homes destroyed, but the scene of that other great BRAINWASHING TV show, BAYWATCH = "WATCH", needs to
be protected..FFS!)

Southern California has been on red alert over the weekend due to
the high winds, temperatures of near 30C and persistent dry conditions.

Malibu, about 30km west of Los Angeles, is home to celebrities including Sting, Jennifer Aniston, Mel Gibson, Robert Redford, Barbra Streisand, Cher, Richard Gere, Martin Sheen and Whoopi Goldberg and Dreamworks studios co-founders David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Homes of director James Cameron and Australian singer Olivia Newton-John were among those evacuated, celebrity site TMZ.com reported.

"The residents understand the danger,'' fire inspector Ron Haralson told Channel 2 television.

"They understand the importance of getting a head start or a jump on fires such as this that move very quickly and are erratic, so the residents there have been co-operating.''
(yeah, pissing off to leave ordinary folk to save their mansions!...well seems the 'signs' are that even 'They' won't keep getting such care, now that the ultimate purpose of the propaganda they push, is drawing closer)

[vera susa]

Well those fires are still the featured story on that OZZIE 'Breaking News' page,
but just look at how DESPERATE 'They" are to repeat 'certain' NUMBERS,
and give 'certain' warnings;


Fires prompt

state of emergency

From correspondents in Los Angeles

October 22, 2007 02:57pm
Article from: Agence France-Presse


CALIFORNIA Governor
Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared
a state of emergency
in seven counties of the state,
where wild fires have killed at least one person
and forced evacuations.

"Governor Schwarzenegger tonight proclaimed a state of emergency
in the counties of
Los Angeles,
Orange,
Riverside,
San Bernardino,
San Diego,
Santa Barbara,
and
Ventura
due to
more than 11
major wildfires,'' his office said.

"The governor's emergency proclamation
allows the state
Office of Emergency Services
to deploy
emergency personnel, equipment and facilities
and provide local government assistance.''

Authorities ordered
36,000
(sure it wasn't 37,001, or 36, 278, or ...)
residents of the southern Californian town of Ramona to evacuate.

Police were contacting all households in the town,
50km northeast of San Diego,
ordering them to flee,
said Phillip Brust, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.

Firefighters were working into the night battling the blazes, which started early yesterday and burned all day, fanned by strong winds. One person died fighting a fire near San Diego and several others were injured elsewhere.

"Throughout the region,
more than 30,000
acres (12,000ha)
(BUT,
12 000 hectare = 29 652.6 acres,
LESS than 30,000!)
have already burned, and more areas are threatened.
The wildfires have caused the loss of human life and serious injuries,''
the governor's offfice said.

"They have burned a number of homes, businesses and other structures. Residents have been evacuated in dangerous areas.''
(now just watch for those 'NUMBERS'. You can pretty safely bet that
they will exclude a few 'unimportant' homes and 'structures',
to get the "right" 'NUMBERS' to print again.)

[i_am]

vera you have already posted all of this on the 'news behind the news' thread. Please keep it to one or the other. Sure make comment on this one but there is no need to cut and paste, with added comments, in both places. Perhaps comment yourself and put a link to the more in depth stuff.

Thank you

[tintin]

vera you have already posted all of this on the 'news behind the news' thread. Please keep it to one or the other. Sure make comment on this one but there is no need to cut and paste, with added comments, in both places. Perhaps comment yourself and put a link to the more in depth stuff.

Thank you

I can understand your point, but I still
disagree.

The posts are RELEVANT in both threads.
So what if Vera Susa had posted the same stuff only a bit
different?

So it just saved her some time IMO.

(don't get me wrong, moderating a forum like this with
so many big ego's is not easy, and all in all it's looks
to me like one of the best moderated forums. A pretty
good balance of free speach and yet stll reasonably "clean".)

[vera susa]

vera you have already posted all of this on the 'news behind the news' thread. Please keep it to one or the other. Sure make comment on this one but there is no need to cut and paste, with added comments, in both places. Perhaps comment yourself and put a link to the more in depth stuff.

Thank you

O.K., I'm just used to boards where relevant articles are allowed on any thread they fit, and knowing how many people can't be bothered 'clicking',
and more importantly, suffer very slow networks, I always saw keeping the information of how "seemingly" unconnected 'events' are in fact being played out in 'concert', "visible", so folk can learn to 'see' when they're being invited to 'dance with the devil', worth my time and effort.

[vera susa]

I can understand your point, but I still
disagree.

The posts are RELEVANT in both threads.
So what if Vera Susa had posted the same stuff only a bit
different?

So it just saved her some time IMO.

(don't get me wrong, moderating a forum like this with
so many big ego's is not easy, and all in all it's looks
to me like one of the best moderated forums. A pretty
good balance of free speach and yet stll reasonably "clean".)

Yeah tintin, when I recall the people who came to look into the deeper,
bigger picture, through 'local issue' threads, after pointing out that they are orchestrated parts of the "WEB of LIES", I just can't see it as a 'bad' thing to do.

but must correct you here to; it actually cost me more time and effort to post
on this thread at all because we now seem to picked up some weird 'laggy bug', that takes forever to even let you know it's registered a click to a link.

maybe I should start to listen to all those who keep telling me off for caring too much for those who don't care enough, it always seems to cause offense,
rather than inspire others to likewise 'pay' to do good.

[i_am]

O.K., I'm just used to boards where relevant articles are allowed on any thread they fit, and knowing how many people can't be bothered 'clicking',
and more importantly, suffer very slow networks, I always saw keeping the information of how "seemingly" unconnected 'events' are in fact being played out in 'concert', "visible", so folk can learn to 'see' when they're being invited to 'dance with the devil', worth my time and effort.


Actually most people here do click and it is not necessary to have two threads in the same forum with the same information.

Just link it. Thank you :)

[graflok]

Observation: There was increased chemtrail activity here in So. Cal. beginning
a few days before the fires started.

As I've noted in an earlier thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9633) it appears that our chemtrails here are primarily
for weather control, to create drought conditions (which is happening).

I've watched them spray ahead of incoming cloud systems and the clouds then
dissipate soon after. My guess is they are using some sort of desiccant
substance that reduces humidity.

[howie]

I was watching 'When Time Ran Out' last night on ITV, some scenes looked very similar to Sky News today.

When Time Ran Out; ITV News Headlines
Carlton
Carlton
Broadcast date/time: 22/10/2007 01:15
Duration: 110 mins
Certificate: PG
Year: 1980
Category: FilmFilm

The inhabitants of a South Sea island flee the devastating effects of a violent volcanic eruption which destroys their homes and surroundings. Dire disaster movie, starring Paul Newman, Jacqueline Bisset, William Holden, Ernest Borgnine, Burgess Meredith and Barbara Carrera. Sadly, the impressive cast couldn't stop this flop sinking without a trace.

When Time Ran Out (1980) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081747/)

[i_am]

but must correct you here to; it actually cost me more time and effort to post
on this thread at all because we now seem to picked up some weird 'laggy bug', that takes forever to even let you know it's registered a click to a link.



I am not sure what the laggy bug was yesterday. I was frustrated all day as things were taking forever to load. It is back to normal today, thank heavens :)

[lapis]

I live in southern Cal and it's been harsh lately. The 9% humidity off-shore winds were gusting 60 MPH last night where I live with ash, sand, dirt and filth blowing everywhere. (Some places it was 80 - 108 MPH. When they call these things "Fire Storms" they mean it!) Everything is covered in this mess, its hard to breath outside, plus you don't open your windows unless you want all that stuff inside your house. At least I still have windows to close.

Early yesterday I realized the primary way that southern California is going to purge the old lower energies is through FIRE. Not earthquakes or floods etc. but through lots of fires all over the lower half of the state. The upper half is a different story, but down here it'll be purification via Fire primarily.

[nuit]

my relation has lost one of his homes in the fires today (well yesterday dependant on time difference to you)

[graflok]

I'm about 30 miles from the closest fires but the smell of smoke is very strong here.

The media here is calling it "California Firestorm." So dramatic.:rolleyes:

They say there's at least 14 different fires. I don't see how all those fires
could happen at the same time unless deliberately set. It seems an obvious
oddity yet I've heard no mention of this in the media. No mention or conjecture
about the causes of the fires.

(There's been no lightning in Southern California for weeks that I know of.)

Boy, those golems sure know how to set good fires.

[peachped]

On Bbc news here they are pushing the global warming agenda as the reason for these fires. They had some guy on who said that fires have always gone on there but they are getting worse each year.

[graflok]

On Bbc news here they are pushing the global warming agenda as the reason for these fires.

Yeah, that figures!

I guess they expect us to think that global warming is so bad it just
starts fires all on its own.

[teslafire]

I've been forced to evacuate. I went over to the folks home to help them evacuate and we were going to go to LA but then they all decided (on the road and we were travelling caravan style) to stay at a friend's just north of the 78

FEMA is coming tomorrow and this is the only thing that has worried me throughout the day. I woke up to my fence being ripped off by the wind, I laughed, had a grand time with friends in the morning as we casually dealt with the fire but now that I know FEMA is coming I want to leave the county and be outside their jurisdiction

Luckily I've been telling the family about the pure evil of FEMA and backing it up so when I laid this on them they didn't freak out and call me a nut

The foothill fires east of laguna beach in orange county were started by arson...i wonder if these were too...

Lets see, the insurance companies are fucked after this...couple this with the credit crisis...pretty soon there will be a resource crisis and voila the last gate has been traversed

To take out an economy...kill speculation, kill stock investment, kill commodities+-

[gorgeousbutterfly]

i live in los angeles. the air quality now is HORRIBLE. i can hardly breathe. i am suffocating

[megafish33]

i live in los angeles. the air quality now is HORRIBLE. i can hardly breathe. i am suffocating

Are you guys ok, in the area you live?

Stay safe... the dangers of the fires are just one thing... but I noticed when somethings going on people even drive more psycho than they normally do lol

[vera susa]

On Bbc news here they are pushing the global warming agenda as the reason for these fires. They had some guy on who said that fires have always gone on there but they are getting worse each year.

Yeah, looking at the BBC coverage, it does look like a deliberate, "Megaphone Event";

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169696&postcount=196

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169707&postcount=197

[gorgeousbutterfly]

Are you guys ok, in the area you live?

Stay safe... the dangers of the fires are just one thing... but I noticed when somethings going on people even drive more psycho than they normally do lol

there is something in the air. i don't know it can't breate. i mean i don't watch news so i didnt' even know the fires were going on till today but this past few days i felt like i can't ingest air in my nose and the air quality is horrible. i never seen anything like it!! not to be dramatic. i never had to think about the air i breathe. i went today for a walk and i looked at the sky and it looked so dull and depressing. i am not that close to the fires. but close enough to be affected. i don't think the fires are close enough to my house to be evucated

[megafish33]

there is something in the air. i don't know it can't breate. i mean i don't watch news so i didnt' even know the fires were going on till today but this past few days i felt like i can't ingest air in my nose and the air quality is horrible. i never seen anything like it!! not to be dramatic. i never had to think about the air i breathe. i went today for a walk and i looked at the sky and it looked so dull and depressing. i am not that close to the fires. but close enough to be affected. i don't think the fires are close enough to my house to be evucated

Yeah... see if you can make it to the beach. Clean ocean air can help. It helped me with my asthma, although I don't suffer from that anymore.

[weregr8]

If you need a place to stay and can make it to Vegas, I have a couch and a big heart and a rambunctious 2 year old that will steal your heart. Only lovers of oneness welcome. Peace and light to you all!!! Our thoughts are with you.

[kerravon]

What really makes me angry about these wildfires is that the US Government, while people are being burned to a crisp, still refuses to admit that it has rain making technology.

Why are there not fleets of planes in the air targeting every small cloud with silver iodide??

Nations such as China and Russia admittedly use it all the time to make it rain or shine when they need too, and the USA used it in vietnam in the 60's.

Just another reminder how much the govenment gives a sh*t about humanity.

[graflok]

FEMA is here now.

No doubt setting more fires. :rolleyes:

[lookfar]

My thoughts are with all of those (human & wildlife included) who are being effected by this.

I also agree with kerravon that the government definitely have the weather manipulating technology to assist with this. However purely by the non mention of it, suggests to me the real cause behind it all.

OMFG FEMA!!!:eek::(

[graflok]

Satellite photo:
http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/31783/2002125764887208197_rs.jpg

Larger pic here (http://alg.umbc.edu/usaq/images/2007-10-22_2057-2102_HSDO_010403_QKM.jpg).

[trumansho]

I used to live in LA only for three months when I tried to pursue acting and I couldn't stand living in Cali. I would never live Cali again. It's like it's own little world. For those who are affected by this situation. I wish you best and safety.

[kamran1261980]

Satellite photo:
http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/31783/2002125764887208197_rs.jpg

Larger pic here (http://alg.umbc.edu/usaq/images/2007-10-22_2057-2102_HSDO_010403_QKM.jpg).


Wow..

[real6]

[QUOTE=vera susa;167078]Have a look at this image;

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713441,00.jpg

Im not trying to sound like a dick, but, this pic looks so fake and photoshoped

[graflok]

Fox News is now blaming Al Qaeda for the fires!

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30190/2003973222513975963_rs.jpg

link here (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/24/fox-news-al-qaeda-is-causing-the-ca-wildires/)

[gordonfreeman]

WTF?!

Now the News is now blaming AL-Qaeda (the elite government created organization to scare the public and manipulate the Americans. So-called Terrorist group threatens American with Allah). Anyhoo, more fear to the public, let the dark forces suck their energy....

[amerigirl]

Fox News is now blaming Al Qaeda for the fires!

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30190/2003973222513975963_rs.jpg

link here (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/24/fox-news-al-qaeda-is-causing-the-ca-wildires/)

That is the funniest, yet SADDEST thing I've heard all day.
I seriously hope nobody (as in middle America) bought into that.

[acidjazz]

[QUOTE=vera susa;167078]Have a look at this image;

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713441,00.jpg

Im not trying to sound like a dick, but, this pic looks so fake and photoshoped

umm..its not.

because right now at this moment the sun is a purple/red color

and i live in southern california

[kamran1261980]

Fox News is now blaming Al Qaeda for the fires!

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30190/2003973222513975963_rs.jpg

link here (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/24/fox-news-al-qaeda-is-causing-the-ca-wildires/)



Tsk tsk tsk.

[trumansho]

The illuminati is up to their old tricks again.

[vera susa]

[QUOTE=vera susa;167078]Have a look at this image;

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713441,00.jpg

Im not trying to sound like a dick, but, this pic looks so fake and photoshoped

Gee I love selectively edited 'quotes', it makes it easy to sort
the seekers from the 'cover agents'.

The point of this post;
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167078&postcount=3

was how "They" USE these 'events' to further TERRORIZE the world with,
with very carefully edited selections of "VIEWS" and "news" to feed us
but I followed up with more examples of this "TERRORIZING TACTIC" on the,
"NEWS behind the NEWS" thread, seeing as that aspect of the topic didn't
seem to strike a cord with readers here.

[megafish33]

Rage of wildfires = ok let's nuke Iran??!

:confused: lol

Terrorists, yes. Rich teens, also yes... although the amount of fires and damage suggest it was something organized, not accidental. imho

[lookfar]

That is the funniest, yet SADDEST thing I've heard all day.
I seriously hope nobody (as in middle America) bought into that.

I agree amerigirl, it's almost laughable if it wasn't so devastating :rolleyes: I really hope the general public don't fall for this total BS, but I've got a feeling a lot of them will... oh dear :( *shakes head in disbelief*