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steevo

21-10-2007, 11:26 PM

joss classey

21-10-2007, 11:33 PM

from a tsarion video i watched, apparently, the 'holy spirit' is the self

the unforgivable sin of sinning against the holy spirit is apparently that of the act of sinning against ones self

joss classey

21-10-2007, 11:38 PM

odd how one can be all but one and another not

http://www.gotquestions.org/images/trinity.jpg

adimon

21-10-2007, 11:42 PM

odd how one can be all but one and another not

Even odder how the word trinity appears not in the Bible.

http://pa.essortment.com/triunegod_rjfu.htm

eternal_spirit

21-10-2007, 11:44 PM

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steevo

21-10-2007, 11:49 PM

Even odder how the word trinity appears not in the Bible.

http://pa.essortment.com/triunegod_rjfu.htm

Yeah that is odd.

bicycle

21-10-2007, 11:52 PM

Sun earth and moon.

eternal_spirit

21-10-2007, 11:54 PM

mind, body and spirit.

steevo

21-10-2007, 11:55 PM

from a tsarion video i watched, apparently, the 'holy spirit' is the self

the unforgivable sin of sinning against the holy spirit is apparently that of the act of sinning against ones self

Yeah I can see the point in that and that we are all part of this ONE conciousness called "God" or whatever you wanna call it, as shown in that big diagram you posted.

The catholics say "the Father, the son and the holy spirit, amen" but they dont seem to deal with the trinity in the way as your diagram. I am not sure if they refer to it as the "trinity" either.

eternal_spirit

21-10-2007, 11:58 PM

There are many Christian Churches named the Holy Trinity, so it must be relevant.

male + female = new life.

lottie

22-10-2007, 12:07 AM

Ive heard many theories I liked Stuart Wilds interpreteation of the holy trinity...

steevo

22-10-2007, 12:13 AM

Ive heard many theories I liked Stuart Wilds interpreteation of the holy trinity...

And what are your thoughts on that Lottie ?

Sun earth and moon.

That sounds interesting.

lottie

22-10-2007, 12:33 AM

Ive heard many theories...

Cant remember where i heard it but i remember a theory about it being something to do with....

'In order for Consciousness to experience itself subjectively it had to distance part of itself from itself so it created two offshoots if you like of itself....and i kinda guess thats where polarity came in and vibration because separating itself from its Oneness state created a polarity and therefore it began to vibrate.' The three parts are still connected to the source but the source is now able to see itself if you see what i mean?

I think the original energy (consciousness/source) was (ie; default?) Feminine so it created one in its likeness and one in its opposite.....

Anyway im confusing myself now:rolleyes::D- but the point im getting at was that the source is the Holy Trinity....The Mother....the other two 'offshooots' are the Father (male aspect) and the Child (female).....

The church say it Father, Son, Holy Spirit I liked Stuart Wilds interpretation of the Matrix film and the and its representation of the Holy Trinity...

(The film) The Matrix is the story of the Holy Trinity, Morpheus the Father Neo the son (he's refered to as Jesus several times in the film though the reference is masked.)The female character Trinity is the Divine Godess Mary Magdelene who was the the feminine principle that was excluded from our Holy Trinity by the male writers of christian dogma, the christian idea of the Holy Ghost is a concoction-misinformation used to dis-empower the females rightful place at the top of the trinity. There is no Holy Ghost. Ghosts are the astral image of dead people. The idea is pure drivel. The Matrix tells the time-age story of the death and resurrection of the initiate.

Stuart Wilde, 'Gods Gladiators'.

Hope this helps....:)

lottie

22-10-2007, 12:35 AM

And what are your thoughts on that Lottie ?

That sounds interesting.

LOL- how the hell did i manage to post that? that was the beginning of my post then i had to go check his book, must've pressed return or summink....sorry to keep you in suspense lol- took me ages to copy it out the book-!! LOL!! The exerpt is from his book 'Gods Gladiators' btw!!! :D

steevo

22-10-2007, 12:47 AM

Ive heard many theories...

Cant remember where i heard it but i remember a theory about it being something to do with....

'In order for Consciousness to experience itself subjectively it had to distance part of itself from itself so it created two offshoots if you like of itself....and i kinda guess thats where polarity came in and vibration because separating itself from its Oneness state created a polarity and therefore it began to vibrate.' The three parts are still connected to the source but the source is now able to see itself if you see what i mean?

I think the original energy (consciousness/source) was (ie; default?) Feminine so it created one in its likeness and one in its opposite.....

Anyway im confusing myself now:rolleyes::D- but the point im getting at was that the source is the Holy Trinity....The Mother....the other two 'offshooots' are the Father (male aspect) and the Child (female).....

The church say it Father son Holy Spirit I liked Stuart Wilds interpretation of the Matrix film and the and its representation of the Holy Trinity...

Hope this helps....:)

Yes it does help lottie, thanks for putting that together for me, much appreciated :)

It sort of explains to why why the religious people also find it hard to
understand, especially with the "feminine principle" being covered up (so to speak).

No-one seems to agree on what the trinity means tho and this seems to be due to religious "bias" (not the right word) so no surprise there.

steevo

22-10-2007, 12:49 AM

Ive heard many theories I liked Stuart Wilds interpreteation of the holy trinity...

LOL when you posted that I thought, "oh maybe she wants me to check it out for myself" :) and so I played safe and asked youwhat your thoughts were on it lol :D

lottie

22-10-2007, 12:56 AM

Yes it does help lottie, thanks for putting that together for me, much appreciated :)

It sort of explains to why why the religious people also find it hard to
understand, especially with the "feminine principle" being covered up (so to speak).

No-one seems to agree on what the trinity means tho and this seems to be due to religious "bias" (not the right word) so no surprise there.

You are welcome.....but ive just had an epiphany!!! :rolleyes::D

What if.....

If you think about it- a woman can create a child, now she can reproduce, so if she reproduces a male she's creating something from herself that is opposite to herself ie male....then once a male is present she can re-create with that male to create a child...ie; holy trinity .....but then again...how did she create the first male???....scrap that....its the 'who came first chicken or egg question'!! lol!! :confused::D

But....if she was the source energy/consciousness she could do what she bloody wanted!! lol!! but relate that to the first theory i mentioned ie; created two offshoots! the first male second female...????

Just thinking out loud here....:):rolleyes:

lottie

22-10-2007, 12:57 AM

LOL when you posted that I thought, "oh maybe she wants me to check it out for myself" :) and so I played safe and asked youwhat your thoughts were on it lol :D

LOL!!! ;):D

steevo

22-10-2007, 01:12 AM

You are welcome.....but ive just had an epiphany!!! :rolleyes::D

What if.....

If you think about it- a woman can create a child, now she can reproduce, so if she reproduces a male she's creating something from herself that is opposite to herself ie male....then once a male is present she can re-create with that male to create a child...ie; holy trinity .....but then again...how did she create the first male???....scrap that....its the 'who came first chicken or egg question'!! lol!! :confused::D

But....if she was the source energy/consciousness she could do what she bloody wanted!! lol!! but relate that to the first theory i mentioned ie; created two offshoots! the first male second female...????

Just thinking out loud here....:):rolleyes:

So are you sorta saying that you think that it does make more sense that the source energy/conciousness was female ?

The more I think about this (the trinity), the less feasible it all sounds.

I will have to watch the Matrix again I think.

When i spoke to some religious people last week, they said that the trinity was God the father, Jesus, and Jesus' Soul (cos he died and his soul is still alive) or that the soul could be Jesus' ghost/soul. Now that makes no sense to me.

lottie

22-10-2007, 01:19 AM

So are you sorta saying that you think that it does make more sense that the source energy/conciousness was female ?

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IS female....not was... but yes i do!! :D

Examples such as the Mother Earth, Universe being referred to as 'She'....
Mother Goddess, supression of the female energy........all lead me to believe that the source energy is female some say its neutral....but without male to polarise it, it can just be female=neutral???

razed1

22-10-2007, 01:33 AM

the holy trinity

if you can understand the PRINCIPLE behind the following three things

the SUN

-in the MORNING

-at HIGH NOON

-at DUSK

thats all, plain and simple right???

but you can symbolically go to infinity behind the real meaning of the holy trinity

lottie

22-10-2007, 01:37 AM

razed1

22-10-2007, 01:55 AM

but the foundation of the holy trinity belief comes from the 3 points of the sun path i outlined above,

steevo

22-10-2007, 02:14 AM

but the foundation of the holy trinity belief comes from the 3 points of the sun path i outlined above,

Makes sense...:cool:

lottie

22-10-2007, 06:04 AM

but the foundation of the holy trinity belief comes from the 3 points of the sun path i outlined above,

I agree that the sun does have cycles of three and that the holy trinity could be devised on those grounds but i feel that is a physical 3D type thing....if you think about it....the sun creates re-birth...and growth of plants, life, food etc etc, without its cycles we'd not survive, but the moon and its cycles affect our emotions/feelings= more spiritual non-physical things, so you could look at the Sun as the Male, Moon- female and the Universe- Mother!

The moon also has these cycles just they arn't recognised, you could say the moon is in the sky dusk, midnight (high) and early morning, a cycle of three again- reflecting its opposite the Sun. Hence the Moon is the calendar we chould be operating on not the gregorian calender based on the Sun. Therefore the supression of Female energies is done so by Worship of the Sun (male).

Because the Sun the Moon and the entire Universe are made up of matter (physical) caused by the act of polarity/vibration, with the nature of the Universe being Holographic it stands to reason that we get cycles of three and smaller versions of the Holy Trinity as all smaller parts carry the whole picture....

So i feel that the Sun, The Moon and the Universe are a reflection of the bigger picture Consciousness and its two offshoots male and female....

Do you get me?:)

razed1

22-10-2007, 06:21 AM

sun in morning = baby

high noon = man in his prime

dusk = old man

past present future

the 3 sisters in macbeth

the 3 godessess of zelda

the 3 phases of the mushroom, egg, 'cross' and upturned cap

but think now, the suns energy is primarily thought of at threes,

but we broken it further down in 12 steps, 3 sets of 4

consciousness is affected by its surroundings, the moon is merely reflecting the light of the sun

every soul must come to the realization that there is something other than itself in the universe

you see what im saying, its the as above so below thing, cant really explain it with this left brained language and thinking we are communicating in

this is where symbolism come is so important,

trying to articulate, the inarticulatable, the paradox, whatever you wanna call it

:) < our lil sun god, isnt he cute

barbitone

22-10-2007, 08:55 AM

Interesting stuff guys!

I found just recently that there is also whats called the "Shield of Trinity"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Trinity_knight_shield.jpg/200px-Trinity_knight_shield.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-variations-thumb.png

I was researching fraternities\sorrorities and badges\emblems etc trying to find out what the very foundation symbols mean, such as the shield and wreath.

I think that religions are just told what works for mass manipulation.
The original meaning is most likely what Stuart Wilde was saying.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/TBN-Crest_Blockletters.jpg/192px-TBN-Crest_Blockletters.jpg

But now I'm more interested in how the powers that be use the symbols....
I believe all things just are until intent is powered through it so none of these are "bad" or "good"....there simply symbolic. The people using these symbols though, seem to be very deceptive at the least (Christianity\Catholicism).

So could the "Shield" symbol also be the "Trinity"?

serpentoffire

22-10-2007, 09:18 AM

I know this thread should really be in the religious section but I will start it off here in the General section first and then it can be moved later if that is ok :)

Can anyone explain to me what the holy Trinity is ?

I know there is the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit/Ghost (which makes 3). I looked it up on the net (wiki etc) a few weeks ago but it seems there MAY be a debate about what the Trinity actually is.

It seems there may be more to the Trinity than we are being told by the churches and the like. I'm not religious at all but I like to know these things.

If the Father is God and the Son is Jesus then who is the spirit/ghost ? It makes no sense to me. I asked some religious people about this and they seemed unsure too.

I know there is the Sun (not son) of god and maybe that has something to do with it all.

Anyone got any views on this ?

OK, maybe I can clarify all this stuff.

I have a long story of interaction with Holy Trinity spirits (I'm not the Pope but only a normal person, surprised?).

The Holy Trinity is the SUN OF MULTIVERSE, a sentient entity composed by three parts that we call Holy Spirit, Father and Christ.

This entity is composed by three concentric spheres of energy in the multi-dimension universe with different frequencies.

The Holy Spirit is the inner sphere, his is the generative energy of the multiverse.

The Father is the thinking part of the trinity, the intelligence, the sapience.

Christ is the interface of Father.

The Holy Trinity is surrounded by several layers of angels, entities similar to winged snakes living with the energy generated by this sun.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/paradisodante.jpg