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pinder
05-07-2010, 02:15 PM
Is 20 pound too much to find out the truth? :confused:

passing
05-07-2010, 02:18 PM
Well, 'The World According To (Jeremy) Clarkson' is only five quid on Amazon, but it has ahem less pages.

yhwhschild
05-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Is 20 pound too much to find out the truth? :confused:

I didn't know how much it costs but maybe its to do with inflation. Well I am only a student so I won't be buying it. I don't need to know if the moons a space ship or not anyway:D

blade_runner
05-07-2010, 02:19 PM
If you think it's too expensive then don't buy it.

Hope this sound advice helps. :)

pinder
05-07-2010, 02:20 PM
I didn't know how much it costs but maybe its to do with inflation. Well I am only a student so I won't be buying it. I don't need to know if the moons a space ship or not anyway:D

yeah i'm a student and thats what I mean, I want the book but 20 quid is alot

pinder
05-07-2010, 02:21 PM
If you think it's too expensive then don't buy it.

Hope this sound advice helps. :)

what if people want the book but can't afford, surley it should be about 5.99?

merlincove
05-07-2010, 02:21 PM
i bought Terry Pratchetts new book a few months ago (still not read it lol) from waterstones fo like £18 or somethin. And tbf, it's shit.

i'd rather have a book like David's for pretty much the same £ and have a worthwile book that feeds my brain with the answers we all need.

pinder
05-07-2010, 02:23 PM
If you think it's too expensive then don't buy it.

Hope this sound advice helps. :)

hows that sound advice?

joeman_0
05-07-2010, 02:24 PM
No. There are almost 700 pages of well researched information. There is no other book like it. and it is expensive because David publishes his own book. or actually his wife publishes it for him. For me the book is worth every penny.

passing
05-07-2010, 02:26 PM
i bought Terry Pratchetts new book a few months ago (still not read it lol) from waterstones fo like £18 or somethin. And tbf, it's shit.

i'd rather have a book like David's for pretty much the same £ and have a worthwile book that feeds my brain with the answers we all need.

Twenty pounds is not too expensive. It will be too much money if it's more than you have, though :rolleyes:

From the size of the thing it's obvious that Icke is not cynically churning out a money-spinner... it would have to be smaller to be cheaper, which would mean less information. I'd prefer the info to determine the price, not the other way round...

choice
05-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Well, 'The World According To (Jeremy) Clarkson' is only five quid on Amazon, but it has ahem less pages.

Heh i bought last week «Driven to distraction», new, 12 euros, has 466 pages!
Tbh i found all his books worth the money.

I think books could be cheaper...but then again, if they are worth it, they are worth it. And we can always pass it to someone else, or ask someone to borrow it.
Personally i prefer paying for a new book, then new cloth or such. Priority is still food thou :D

pinder
05-07-2010, 02:29 PM
No. There are almost 700 pages of well researched information. There is no other book like it. and it is expensive because David publishes his own book. or actually his wife publishes it for him. For me the book is worth every penny.

I'm not saying it's not worth it, but 20 quid feels like hes making profit, 5 people buy thats 100 quid?

pinder
05-07-2010, 02:30 PM
Heh i bought last week «Driven to distraction», new, 12 euros, has 466 pages!
Tbh i found all his books worth the money.

I think books could be cheaper...but then again, if they are worth it, they are worth it. And we can always pass it to someone else, or ask someone to borrow it.
Personally i prefer paying for a new book, then new cloth or such. Priority is still food thou :D

i agree i brought the Book "The Secret History of the World: By Jonathan Black" for 6 pound, and ive let a few people borrow it also, great book

passing
05-07-2010, 02:31 PM
Heh i bought last week «Driven to distraction», new, 12 euros, has 466 pages!
Tbh i found all his books worth the money.

Are you a petrolhead? :D

(I picked Clarkson as an opposite to Icke - he (Clarkson) has even written that drivers should be deliberately aggressive to cyclists :eek:)

justin_pushka
05-07-2010, 04:09 PM
£20 quids reasonable for a book of its size. However the other day for me it wasnt as i only had 20 quid to spare so i was cheesed off. I think really its ok for a book to be 20 its the 7 quid postage for me that was the final straw. But hey ive sold books myself for 125 quid per book granted it wasnt a truther book and it was a one off but hey. Id pay 20quid for the book but i refuse to pay 7 for postage so ill wait till it eventually makes the book shelves.

curtisrascist
05-07-2010, 05:57 PM
I would give david a weeks wage for his book as long as i can still be a snake i am happier than non snake entitys............psfffffff:cool:

choice
05-07-2010, 05:57 PM
Are you a petrolhead? :D

(I picked Clarkson as an opposite to Icke - he (Clarkson) has even written that drivers should be deliberately aggressive to cyclists :eek:)

Hehehe am not, despite i love cars, top gear, and clarksons humor.
But so far i just «walk» :D

passing
05-07-2010, 06:01 PM
it would have to be smaller to be cheaper, which would mean less information

(That's expensive vs. expansive ;))

-------

choice, it's your choice!

krakhead
05-07-2010, 07:23 PM
I'm not saying it's not worth it, but 20 quid feels like hes making profit, 5 people buy thats 100 quid?

http://caedis.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/oh_noes.jpg
:rolleyes:

antinwo
05-07-2010, 07:26 PM
What about the library:confused:

merlincove
05-07-2010, 07:27 PM
I would give david a weeks wage for his book as long as i can still be a snake i am happier than non snake entitys............psfffffff:cool:

How would you turn the pages? :confused:

;)

camreeno
05-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Well it's 700 pages long so what did you expect? It's well worth it when you consider how many pages you get for the money... Plus, can you really put a price on figuring out the truth to so much useful information? I mean, wouldn't 10 extra pounds (or however many dollars that is) be completely outweighed by understanding all the things he talks about in the book which will make you know the world that much more clearly?

What else are you going to do with your money?

subl1minal
06-07-2010, 12:20 AM
£20 is four hours of work for most people nowdays. So surely £20 for a book that's got a reading time of up to 100+ hours (including breaks, days of not even reading, reading 4 pages or so everyday on the way to work etc.) I think it's worth it. Plus it has high quality artwork printed in it and it's easily Icke's best presented book of all.

To be honest, when people moan about Icke's book prices, it doesn't take 5 minutes to find a ton of interviews he's done for free online and he usually explains everything he's ever talked about in a good 2 hours.

starshine
06-07-2010, 09:25 AM
This is a typical Icke deractor post.:mad:
His (Icke's) deractors first moaned about the cost of the newsletter and now they moan at the cost of his books. Hey Pinder, how much is 80 cigerettes? How much is the bottles of Booze and how much is going to the cinema or some place.
Idiotos, remember this right away that Icke has self published his book and he needs a little extra money. And what the hell is it with you if it were expensive or not, he does not unfortunately send out a book ever year now does he?

largejack
06-07-2010, 11:09 AM
They're 18.50 on AMazon with free shipping, but there is a used one for 53 pounds ?? :confused:

Is it too expensive? That all depends on your perspective I suppose? It has over 700 pages doesn't it? What's the going price for a book of that size? I guess some people would consider it money better spent than buying a takeaway for two one evening, whereas others wouldn't?

Also keep it in good nick and you'll get back half the money anyway once you've read it, and then you can pass the knowledge on to the next person.

Ironically I haven't bought it yet though because I can't afford it, lol, but I will be getting it soon.

He should hand them out free, and then we can look forward to his next book when he's working flat out in a factory somewhere?

paradisegarage
06-07-2010, 12:12 PM
Not cheap publishing a niche market publication, and 5 x copies certainly doesn't equate to £100 sheets in profit. Plus knowing what the webs like these days probably won't be long before the text appears free on some site.
Wait till you get into the realm of best sellers and tv advertising and major pubkishing house to keep the prices down. Having said that then come the charges of 'selling out':)

passing
06-07-2010, 01:10 PM
He should hand them out free, and then we can look forward to his next book when he's working flat out in a factory somewhere?

:D

urbanmonk
06-07-2010, 01:26 PM
WhSmith have it for less than £18 (£14.55 instore) and that includes p&p, have had a few copies (to give away) on order from there for a while now.

The problem being the website has been saying available in 5 working days for over a month, and then once you try to order it says not yet published :(.

I not mind forking a little extra out for myself but want to give a few copies away and the p&p charges stack up elsewhere, to anyone in a similar boat and are willing to wait for it to be back in stock get it from WhSmith or just just use the David Icke shop.

Actually anyone know if it is even instock on his main site and how long delivery normally takes, is it sent 1st class or what?

masonicboom
06-07-2010, 05:09 PM
No. There are almost 700 pages of well researched information. There is no other book like it. and it is expensive because David publishes his own book. or actually his wife publishes it for him. For me the book is worth every penny.

Agreed.
and I live in the US so I had to pay the extra shipping, still worth it.

lauren_almighty
06-07-2010, 07:57 PM
I don't buy books because trees are killed to make them. :rolleyes:

I prefer e-books.

And yes £20 is too much, especially for "the truth"

choice
06-07-2010, 08:45 PM
I don't buy books because trees are killed to make them. :rolleyes:

I prefer e-books.

Well, electricity isn“t a gift from the holy spirit, and paper can easily be recycled.

marpat
06-07-2010, 09:43 PM
Im sure it will be in free ebook form at some point. Many of his other books are :D

hadabusa
06-07-2010, 09:50 PM
steal it op.


or read it in bookshop"im just looking"


or wait till price falls.


choices

camreeno
06-07-2010, 10:55 PM
Just buy the damn book. What the hell else are you going to buy? Porn? Beer? Seriously the payoff is enormous considering how useful the information is. Isn't it worth the $30 or so to be educated about the Swine Flu vaccine for isntance, and have the ability to inform people about it? That along with all the other things the book covers.

marpat
06-07-2010, 11:01 PM
Just buy the damn book. What the hell else are you going to buy? Porn? Beer? Seriously the payoff is enormous considering how useful the information is. Isn't it worth the $30 or so to be educated about the Swine Flu vaccine for isntance, and have the ability to inform people about it? That along with all the other things the book covers.

Depends on a persons income. What if they need every penny just to live? years ago me and my wife used to survive on £10-15 a week food money.

Considering most of the information is probably on the internet then it is probably more of a luxury for some people than a necessity

hadabusa
06-07-2010, 11:03 PM
Just buy the damn book. What the hell else are you going to buy? Porn? Beer? Seriously the payoff is enormous considering how useful the information is. Isn't it worth the $30 or so to be educated about the Swine Flu vaccine for isntance, and have the ability to inform people about it? That along with all the other things the book covers.

yup.

after reading, it becomes multipurpose.


350toiletsheets.


about 5000 spliff filters.

hollowed out drug storage tool.


throwing device4non obedient wife.

20gbp buys alot with proper mcguyver attitude.


i wonder if op'd negotiate/complain about hooker prices.

heres footage of op, hes "mr pink"

Reservoir Dogs - Tipping Scene - YouTube

lauren_almighty
06-07-2010, 11:06 PM
throwing device4non obedient wife.

:D

hadabusa
06-07-2010, 11:09 PM
:D

you know im joking:D

id never




MARRY

:D:D

(check above vid,lol)

ell ess dee
06-07-2010, 11:14 PM
WhSmith have it for less than £18 (£14.55 instore) and that includes p&p, have had a few copies (to give away) on order from there for a while now.

The problem being the website has been saying available in 5 working days for over a month, and then once you try to order it says not yet published :(.

I not mind forking a little extra out for myself but want to give a few copies away and the p&p charges stack up elsewhere, to anyone in a similar boat and are willing to wait for it to be back in stock get it from WhSmith or just just use the David Icke shop.

Actually anyone know if it is even instock on his main site and how long delivery normally takes, is it sent 1st class or what?

Ordered mine from there @ £14.80 delivered to local store. That was back on the 8th of May. Still not got it.

seercirra
06-07-2010, 11:41 PM
i think £14.50 is reasonable for a 700 page book. obviously the contents are an important factor in the price, whether its original data or reworded cut and paste would effect the value greatly but if you give david the benefit of the doubt then 14.50 is ok. £27 is not okay, however he can excuse himself because all retailers charge more from their own site. if they had the lowest prices at their own site then resellers like WHsmiths would not be interested and his book would never hit the mainstream.

have you heard any news stories about david giving to charity? does he mention it? it would seem he can certainly afford to be more generous. atleast, his rant a few months ago about how few people are paying for his newsletters seems a little misplaced.

asleepawake
06-07-2010, 11:45 PM
Op If you got time to sit and make a thread about questioning the price about a book, then you've got the money. Stop being a tightass lol

passing
06-07-2010, 11:54 PM
Op If you got time to sit and make a thread about questioning the price about a book, then you've got the money. Stop being a tightass lol

Shit, do we get paid?

asleepawake
06-07-2010, 11:59 PM
Shit, do we get paid?

Not quite following ya there.

i_am
07-07-2010, 12:07 AM
i think £14.50 is reasonable for a 700 page book. obviously the contents are an important factor in the price, whether its original data or reworded cut and paste would effect the value greatly but if you give david the benefit of the doubt then 14.50 is ok. £27 is not okay, however he can excuse himself because all retailers charge more from their own site. if they had the lowest prices at their own site then resellers like WHsmiths would not be interested and his book would never hit the mainstream.

have you heard any news stories about david giving to charity? does he mention it? it would seem he can certainly afford to be more generous. atleast, his rant a few months ago about how few people are paying for his newsletters seems a little misplaced.

His rant a' few months ago' was from 4 years ago actually. It just keeps getting dug up whenever the site goes down.

People who give to others don't always feel the need to advertise the fact. It is not about glorifying oneself, is it?

pinder
07-07-2010, 12:08 AM
What about the library:confused:

libary dont have his books

pinder
07-07-2010, 12:09 AM
Well it's 700 pages long so what did you expect? It's well worth it when you consider how many pages you get for the money... Plus, can you really put a price on figuring out the truth to so much useful information? I mean, wouldn't 10 extra pounds (or however many dollars that is) be completely outweighed by understanding all the things he talks about in the book which will make you know the world that much more clearly?

What else are you going to do with your money?

if he wanted to reach the masses, the cheaper the better?

pinder
07-07-2010, 12:12 AM
This is a typical Icke deractor post.:mad:
His (Icke's) deractors first moaned about the cost of the newsletter and now they moan at the cost of his books. Hey Pinder, how much is 80 cigerettes? How much is the bottles of Booze and how much is going to the cinema or some place.
Idiotos, remember this right away that Icke has self published his book and he needs a little extra money. And what the hell is it with you if it were expensive or not, he does not unfortunately send out a book ever year now does he?

i dont smoke, dont get angry or act big online "idoits" cause your proberly a lil ruddy poo with a picture of a cat as ya profile, all im saying if he wanted to reach the masses he would charge less, do you think a person who knows little about icke is willing to pay 20 quid just like that?

i_am
07-07-2010, 12:13 AM
libary dont have his books

Find another library. Ask them to get it in.

My library has all of his books.

passing
07-07-2010, 12:15 AM
Not quite following ya there.

Sorry, joke FAIL :o

pinder
07-07-2010, 12:17 AM
Depends on a persons income. What if they need every penny just to live? years ago me and my wife used to survive on £10-15 a week food money.

Considering most of the information is probably on the internet then it is probably more of a luxury for some people than a necessity

thats what im saying, is person on benefits gonna be able to afford it? so to find out the truth it shouldnt be 20 quid

pinder
07-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Find another library. Ask them to get it in.

My library has all of his books.

radicall books?

merlincove
07-07-2010, 12:22 AM
thats what im saying, is person on benefits gonna be able to afford it? so to find out the truth it shouldnt be 20 quid

i often lend my books to people who can't afford to buy them.

i've even given a few away.

libraries will often get a book if you ask them to order it in.

montag
07-07-2010, 12:23 AM
radicall books?
Most libraries will order a book in if you request it, even David's..

i_am
07-07-2010, 12:24 AM
radicall books?


Sorry :confused:

I said my library has all of David's books. If you consider them to be radical, then, yeah

pinder
07-07-2010, 11:04 AM
Sorry :confused:

I said my library has all of David's books. If you consider them to be radical, then, yeah

no i dont consider it to be radical, but i went to a libary recently and they had literally non of the books we requested becuase of the nature of the books, i think they were removed?

anath
07-07-2010, 03:05 PM
In a word yes.

Icke makes his living out of the 'truth' so can't just give the information out for nothing - but the high price of the item does exclude some people from being able to purchase it.

starshine
07-07-2010, 07:06 PM
Hey Pinder, you can abuse my lovely cat and myself as much as you like cos you are behind a computer screen anyway.
So you moan about the cost of a Well Worth it £20 book then and you moan about being on benefits, well go find a job and make sure you go to a BOOK library instead of a video library in future.
This folks is typical Icke bash post basically and these folks will even want Icke to give them the shirt on his back and his property.

starshine
07-07-2010, 07:12 PM
I was introduced by the wonderful literature of David Icke from a book I loaned out from the library, you PIndar is just piss taking and basically jealous cos nothing you have to say is of value whatsoever.

dogsmilk
07-07-2010, 10:26 PM
no i dont consider it to be radical, but i went to a libary recently and they had literally non of the books we requested becuase of the nature of the books, i think they were removed?

Why would a library remove a book because of its "nature"? If that were the case, why would they put it on their shelves in the first place?
Books are removed from shelves because
a/Libraries regularly change their stock and flog books/CDs/DVDs at bargain basement prices in book sales.
b/People fail to return them after borrowing them.

Inter-loans from other libraries are easily accessed for a small charge, the size of which is dependent on how heavily the expense is subsidised locally. This means you can easily access library stock from across the country. A search of the catalogues of just two major cities shows more than adequate representation of Icke's books:

https://librarycatalogue.manchester.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_004_TitleResults.aspx?page=1&searchTerm=icke&searchType=98&searchTerm2=
http://libcat.bham.org.uk/cgi-bin/vps2.6_viewpoint.sh?enqtype=PHRASEQUERY&enqpara1=DEFAULT&session_no=4580237&time=&search_string=icke&typesect=&sec0=0&media0=0&authpara1=icke&limit_set=Full+Catalogue+Search&no_of_results=9

The new one will likely take some time to filter into library catalogues.

Libraries will even consider suggestions of books they should purchase, though there is no guarantee they will choose to do so. If people do not wish to pay the rather steep price for the new Icke book they should request it at their library. If libraries perceive a book will be popular - like getting multiple requests for it - they will likely purchase a copy.

_tzupidity
07-07-2010, 10:36 PM
I don't see the point in arguing about the cost of Icke's latest book. Some books cost less, some cost more. If you want to talk about value, then there's something to talk about.

From the interviews I've listened to and watched, I have learnt the following things about this book from Icke himself.

1. The first half of the book, again, is a re-cap of all the other books.

2. The whole moon idea just came in to his head one day. "I just had this sudden knowing so went in[sic] the internet".

3. The main book Icke takes things from Who Built The Moon, completely disagrees with Icke. He just took the bits he liked and ignored the rest. See my thread on that book if you want more info.

4. Icke claims it's the most pivotal world shattering book (he says that every time) yet it's not even in bookshops.

That's just four discussion worthy topics right there, so why quabble over price?

camreeno
07-07-2010, 10:51 PM
if he wanted to reach the masses, the cheaper the better?Well it's 700 pages long, like I already said. Look at how books regularly sell for $15-20 when they only have about 250 pages. Now considering this is $30 for 700 pages you're getting a much better value, so I really don't think it will dissuade anyone from reading the book. And besides, his other books go other most of the same information and you can buy them dirt cheap used.

camreeno
07-07-2010, 10:58 PM
Depends on a persons income. What if they need every penny just to live? years ago me and my wife used to survive on £10-15 a week food money.

Considering most of the information is probably on the internet then it is probably more of a luxury for some people than a necessityNo, most of it probably isn't on the internet. Besides, even if it was you won't have the efficiency of having it all in one book and you will have the efficiency of having it all conveniently laid out with a table of contents and index, and that much of it is undertoned by his new findings on the Moon Matrix (as he calls it) stuff. And you can't forget that's it's a physical thing you can hold in your hand, as opposed to having the information on an array of websites that requires you to sit cramped over in a computer chair, and the time to fish through all the different sources. With a book it doesn't require electricity and a computer set, and you can take it anywhere and it doesn't require booting up. The advantages are numerous.

number 6
07-07-2010, 11:35 PM
20 quid is a bargain!

yhwhschild
08-07-2010, 11:25 AM
I just went to the book store to see how much it cost over here in Brisbane and it will cost me about $50 to order it:eek:

pinder
08-07-2010, 02:25 PM
Find another library. Ask them to get it in.

My library has all of his books.

i live in coventry? you serious!!

choice
08-07-2010, 02:52 PM
Yesterday i was in a bookstore quite famous in Lisbon, and surprise surprise, Ickes book was the first thing i saw. It costs 25 euros, and comparing the size of it, with the other books in general, the price wasn't anything that absurd.

pinder
08-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Yesterday i was in a bookstore quite famous in Lisbon, and surprise surprise, Ickes book was the first thing i saw. It costs 25 euros, and comparing the size of it, with the other books in general, the price wasn't anything that absurd.

i live in jolly england, were we do morrising dancing and drink tea, so we dont have his books

disorder2k8
08-07-2010, 03:00 PM
i live in jolly england, were we do morrising dancing and drink tea, so we dont have his books

Hahaha :D Don't forget football hooliganism which is now a national passtime.

pinder
08-07-2010, 03:01 PM
Hahaha :D Don't forget football hooliganism which is now a national passtime.

yea lol

choice
08-07-2010, 03:02 PM
Hahaha :D Don't forget football hooliganism which is now a national passtime.

Not true! Wagism is the passtime this days!

And if english would drink tea with pot in it, i am sure they would be waaaaay more happy and complain less about book prices :)

pinder
08-07-2010, 03:04 PM
Not true! Wagism is the passtime this days!

And if english would drink tea with pot in it, i am sure they would be waaaaay more happy and complain less about book prices :)

are you from sunny portugal?

pinder
08-07-2010, 03:19 PM
true worlds, choice

choice
08-07-2010, 03:22 PM
are you from sunny portugal?

I am! just posted a reply to this question of yours, but apparently it "vanished" :(
:)

pinder
08-07-2010, 03:25 PM
what was the question?

merlincove
08-07-2010, 03:35 PM
This thread has been focused on as a vehicle to ridicule David and his work, and while both David as well as the moderation team welcome adult and educated discussions on David's work, members are asked not to use the forum as an arena to flame the owner of this site.

Flaming the owner of this site is not only dissrespectful to David and forum members it is also viewed as spamming and any further posts attending to such will be removed and moderation action taken accordingly.

i have removed a few off topic posts as well as their subsequent replies quotting them. It's a pity that some members can't post here without attempting to derail the thread topic :rolleyes:

;)

starshine
09-07-2010, 01:08 PM
Icke's latest book seems like real value for money to me.:)
Anyway many of these Icke books are self published and the huge publishing houses would be too scared to publish his book.
Bridge of Love is the book publishers which is owned by David Icke.:)

wanaknow
09-07-2010, 10:14 PM
Worth every penny so far and I'm only half way through,

revolutionary_jam
10-07-2010, 01:00 AM
Go to the library or borrow it from a pal, it's hard to make money these days

steve1964
10-07-2010, 02:11 AM
i bought Terry Pratchetts new book a few months ago (still not read it lol) from waterstones fo like £18 or somethin. And tbf, it's shit.

.

How do you know its shit if you haven't read it. lol

merlincove
10-07-2010, 02:35 AM
How do you know its shit if you haven't read it. lol

i got 1/3 of the way in before giving it up as a bad job - any book that can't captivate you within the first two chapters / 50 pages aint goin anywhere, and you don't need to keep on readin to know that :D

wanaknow
10-07-2010, 09:09 PM
i got 1/3 of the way in before giving it up as a bad job - any book that can't captivate you within the first two chapters / 50 pages aint goin anywhere, and you don't need to keep on readin to know that :D

Well this just tells us more about you than the book doesn't it :rolleyes:

dmessick
10-07-2010, 10:43 PM
Sometimes I think people just like to bitch.

gizmocrystal
10-07-2010, 11:06 PM
i got 1/3 of the way in before giving it up as a bad job - any book that can't captivate you within the first two chapters / 50 pages aint goin anywhere, and you don't need to keep on readin to know that :D

Agree!

I can tell from the first couple of chapters if i am going to get along with a book.

No point in waisting time if you cant get into it!

gizmocrystal
10-07-2010, 11:12 PM
20 quid is not that much really in this sort of field.

What gets me is courses for people to find their spiritual paths/lectures/courses they are expensive.

Have you seen how much they want for the AVII dvds?... £120 now that is expensive.:eek:

truegroup
11-07-2010, 12:00 AM
Is 20 pound too much to find out the truth? :confused:

No. Is there a 'not confused' smiley?

I love these intuitive threads.

catnap
11-07-2010, 11:14 AM
£27 (inc post and packaging) is extortionate for a book mostly made up of the same tired old stuff which is in his other books. Added to insult the 'new' stuff isnt new at all - its all borrowed from other people.

Mine went the the charity shop (strangely its still there) ;)

starshine
11-07-2010, 08:02 PM
this is basically a piss take thread.:mad:

choice
11-07-2010, 08:09 PM
this is basically a piss take thread.:mad:

Oh but people this days get easy pissed off :D
In a free world we should have respect for different opinions.

starshine
11-07-2010, 08:52 PM
I agree let them waffle how really cheap they are, and why is there no complaint about the ticket sale of watching their fave band in concert or the cost of a pair of trousers even.
These idiotos seem to think just cos Icke is a researcher he should give his infomation for free, the Holy Bible states that you should pay your teacher and at least I get the man's newsletters, many in this forum do not.

catnap
12-07-2010, 08:44 AM
What price the truth eh :rolleyes:

apollo_gnomon
12-07-2010, 10:42 PM
Something to keep in mind, this book is "self published" by the author. That's not cheap. Big publishing houses can recoup the cost of printing a book by volume sales and screwing the author with royalty agreements. Publishers also screw the big-box vendors, who have to sell things on slim margins and jack up the price of faster-moving products like weekly magazines and paperback fiction in order to stay profitable. Have you noticed the demise of the small bookstore? They can't compete in this kind of business environment.

When the author has to pay to have the book published out-of-pocket he has to not only recoup the cost of printing but also make enough money to pay for printing any subsequent runs, pay for having any other books published, and earn enough of a living to be free to research and write the next book. Would you like to see David Icke bagging groceries so you can have a cheap book? I wouldn't.

Compare the price of this book to other niche market books, not mass-culture crap like vampire novels and you'll probably see that it's about average.

starshine
12-07-2010, 10:57 PM
I am able to buy this book without any arguement about the cost. I got my book from Bridge of Love and I live near that area anyway.:cool:

thorleyart
13-07-2010, 09:17 PM
I thought it was expensive, but I bought it anyway, and paid £7 postage!

It's a fucking good book though

sh3lly
13-07-2010, 09:40 PM
His rant a' few months ago' was from 4 years ago actually. It just keeps getting dug up whenever the site goes down.

People who give to others don't always feel the need to advertise the fact. It is not about glorifying oneself, is it?
No, and if one did go on about how much they gave, then people would just attack them for that! :rolleyes:

Honestly, this whole question is based on personal perspective. If you don't have money, then five dollars will be a lot of money. I see a lot of "free" Icke material online. Watch interviews on youtube, search this site, there is a lot of material to be found.

People have to pay their bills and have some left over so they can concentrate on releasing more information, writing speeches and doing more research. Do some of you realize how much a 9 to 5'er eats up your time?! Have a full time day job and family and see how much time you have left over for "truther" info. :rolleyes:

sh3lly
13-07-2010, 09:41 PM
Sometimes I think people just like to bitch.

So, SOOOO true! ;)

starshine
13-07-2010, 09:48 PM
THis is a Anti Icke thread regd the cost of this Self Published book and hey moaners have you not heard of saving money.
Have you noticed that drunkards and druggies will never moan about £20 on thier booze and drugs??? Hey Icke is a INDEPENDANT RESEARCHER who needs our financial support to carry on, and at least 'I have the mouth to wear with my trousers'.:cool:

justin_pushka
15-07-2010, 05:28 PM
The postage is a bit steep but the book is really really flippin heavy. 6 chapters in and its by far the best of all of them. Loads and loads of new stuff. Its nice to see the turquoise period revisited too cos it was that media frenzy that got me interested first time around. So far the book is bloody stunnin and worth every penny (and im one of the moaners!). Of course all the info today doesnt look as mad now does it sheeple? Of course icke is bloody right he aways was and what a bloody nice geezer he is too. Go buy the book you wont regret it. Some people aint gona like the moon bit i suspect, but if you suspend "mind" for a bit it makes perfect sense. Id even go as far as to say the moon IS the eye ontop of the pyramid.

masonicboom
15-07-2010, 05:45 PM
I am TIRED OF SEEING THIS THREAD DRUDGED UP EVERY DAY !!!!!!

If you don't like the price - DON'T BUY IT.

I rate this thread high in irrelevancy.

Sorry.

starshine
15-07-2010, 07:48 PM
WHY DO NOT THE DERACTORS DO SOMETHING NOVEL, WHICH IS INSTEAD OF BUYING IT NICK IT FOR THAT IS YOUR STYLE.
Hey I do not see a complaint for a huge takeaway meal that would cost £20 and at least the Book is something that would be WORTH SOMETHING IN A FEW CENTURIES TIME.
Philisitines go to hell!!!:mad:

masonicboom
15-07-2010, 08:10 PM
WHY DO NOT THE DERACTORS DO SOMETHING NOVEL, WHICH IS INSTEAD OF BUYING IT NICK IT FOR THAT IS YOUR STYLE.
Hey I do not see a complaint for a huge takeaway meal that would cost £20 and at least the Book is something that would be WORTH SOMETHING IN A FEW CENTURIES TIME.
Philisitines go to hell!!!:mad:

Yeah, I was thinking when I got the book that such types of material may become banned or illegal, so everyone who has a copy... bury it in a metal box in your back yard.. no wait they would find it with metal detectors.
Anyway, hide it where they won't find it if the Farenheit ### people show up.

It's been so long I can't remember the full name of that movie, but it was (is) classic. Anyone who hasn't seen it needs to. I wonder what year that came out, and if it was based on a book. I think it was (but it was likely burned:) )
:(

wonderfullife
15-07-2010, 09:14 PM
Worth every penny:)

onourway
15-07-2010, 10:52 PM
No. There are almost 700 pages of well researched information. There is no other book like it. and it is expensive because David publishes his own book. or actually his wife publishes it for him. For me the book is worth every penny.

Well said joeman! End of story as far as I'm concerned.

cosmo1
16-07-2010, 03:21 AM
Only if you can't afford it :p:D.

starshine
16-07-2010, 11:53 AM
£20 is money well worth spending on this!!!:) Moan, Moan, Moan, that is all I get from certain people. I will state right here that this book is somewhat UNDERPRICED for there is so much infomation, a big book and it is word reading as well too.

subl1minal
16-07-2010, 05:15 PM
I'd like to also add that the last few pages are worth more than £20. If people could soak in what he says on those pages... man,

justin_pushka
16-07-2010, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I was thinking when I got the book that such types of material may become banned or illegal, so everyone who has a copy... bury it in a metal box in your back yard.. no wait they would find it with metal detectors.
Anyway, hide it where they won't find it if the Farenheit ### people show up.

It's been so long I can't remember the full name of that movie, but it was (is) classic. Anyone who hasn't seen it needs to. I wonder what year that came out, and if it was based on a book. I think it was (but it was likely burned:) )
:(

farenheight 451. Bloody great film that.

jackson82
16-07-2010, 07:25 PM
yeh thats a good film.

mekon
16-07-2010, 08:56 PM
you guys are ridiculous. When you hear fahrenheit 451 you think of the film ? how ironic is that ??

jackdaw
17-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Any price is fine if it really leads to the actual truth. Everyone's is different though ;)

princessofwands
17-07-2010, 04:32 PM
Amazon now has it. £18.49 and no postage to pay.

randob30
17-07-2010, 08:16 PM
I will definitely buy this book at it's current price. I need to finish it before I see Icke speak in NYC.

starshine
19-07-2010, 08:30 AM
Has any of you people ever heard of saving up, like you save up for Christmas or a holiday???

catnap
19-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Has any of you people ever heard of saving up, like you save up for Christmas or a holiday???

And do you realise that £27 is more money than some families have for food in a week?

Expense is relative to how much a person has.

kreis
19-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Amazon now has it. £18.49 and no postage to pay.

Mine's on its way now from Amazon UK. In comparison to other books of that size/type, I wouldn't say that it's too expensive.

quanten mechaniker
19-07-2010, 12:07 PM
And do you realise that £27 is more money than some families have for food in a week?

Expense is relative to how much a person has.

Well said.

Starshine acts like the agent of David Icke in the way she pushes this book. Someone even sent me links to forums where she was claiming what a great read it is 2 months before it was out. They also included links to forums where he/she runs David Icke into the ground.


In the eyes of myself Starshine has too much to say.

ell ess dee
19-07-2010, 05:44 PM
Actually got it delivered today, not bad after 8 weeks waiting :rolleyes:

It's a lot bigger than I thought, time to get some reading done.

subl1minal
19-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Actually got it delivered today, not bad after 8 weeks waiting :rolleyes:

It's a lot bigger than I thought, time to get some reading done.

Yeah it's like The Biggest Secret x 3. But I'd say it's a mix of all of his books.

catnap
20-07-2010, 11:51 AM
Its virtually a reprint of his past work - very little new stuff. And when I say 'new' I mean new to Ickes books - other researchers have already been there and done the whole moon matrix stuff (which is where he has nicked it from) etc. So actually nothing truly new at all.

Thats why its a total rip off.

subl1minal
20-07-2010, 12:09 PM
Its virtually a reprint of his past work - very little new stuff. And when I say 'new' I mean new to Ickes books - other researchers have already been there and done the whole moon matrix stuff (which is where he has nicked it from) etc. So actually nothing truly new at all.

Thats why its a total rip off.

I take it you've read it?

starshine
20-07-2010, 12:09 PM
That £27 can be saved up WEEKLY. If I were the agent of David Icke, he would be a very, very wealthy man. Oh all publicity is good publicity.

catnap
20-07-2010, 12:10 PM
I take it you've read it?

Read it and put it straight in the charity bag :)

subl1minal
20-07-2010, 12:25 PM
Read it and put it straight in the charity bag :)

So you gained nothing from the book?

starshine
20-07-2010, 12:31 PM
Catnap, if you are just going to arrive here and mock the book, why not do it elsewhere. Oh I remembered you want the attention of this place now don't you? Always on the blooming moan now are you not. Hey why not you write a book, or is that something of a trouble for you?
My cats really nap whilst reading your posts.

catnap
20-07-2010, 01:23 PM
Catnap, if you are just going to arrive here and mock the book, why not do it elsewhere. Oh I remembered you want the attention of this place now don't you? Always on the blooming moan now are you not. Hey why not you write a book, or is that something of a trouble for you?
My cats really nap whilst reading your posts.

Are you denying that this book is just a rehash of all Ickes previous work plus some material he has taken from other researchers? Why is that mocking? Its fact.

Forums are about people having an opinion. You dont like mine, I dont like yours. Who cares? Grow up :rolleyes:

I always thought people who had cats cant be all bad - you have just proven that theory wrong!

catnap
20-07-2010, 01:24 PM
So you gained nothing from the book?

I got nothing from this book that hadnt already been gained elsewhere.

dreamweaver
20-07-2010, 11:11 PM
Is 20 pound too much to find out the truth? :confused:

Thousands of people who have already bought the book would say not.

I appreciate it's a lot of money if you're struggling to pay the bills but most people who value DI's work clearly think it's a price worth paying.

If you really can't afford to buy it, your choices are borrowing from a friend, going to the public library (ask for an inter-library loan if your own library doesn't stock it) or waiting until someone puts a pdf on a torrent. If you truly value what DI does, though, I really don't think you should do the latter - he puts a lot of effort into his works and he needs to pay the bills too.

helloperator
20-07-2010, 11:33 PM
I'll tell you what's wrong with David Icke's NEW BOOK....the phrase NEW BOOK.

How the hell many books is this guy gonna write?

People pay for vital information that in this day and age could be posted free on the internet?

Humanity is in a life and death struggle and Big Dave wants to charge for a NEW BOOK?

How many different ways can he tell us that lizards are running the world and that we are being lied to, stitched up and driven like slaves?

catnap
21-07-2010, 09:35 AM
I'll tell you what's wrong with David Icke's NEW BOOK....the phrase NEW BOOK.

How the hell many books is this guy gonna write?

People pay for vital information that in this day and age could be posted free on the internet?

Humanity is in a life and death struggle and Big Dave wants to charge for a NEW BOOK?

How many different ways can he tell us that lizards are running the world and that we are being lied to, stitched up and driven like slaves?

Totally + 1.

My problem with it exactly. If it was a NEW Book full of NEW information it would be worth that amount easily. But for recycled stuff (again) - no way.

starshine
21-07-2010, 12:21 PM
cATNAP, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE?
Constantly moaning about the price of a book, constantly moaning about the info in the book and why, are you moaning as well with your personal life too?
Let me state right here, I am a real Cat Lady, I feel a connection with them and do not try to talk rubbish as per usual OK.

catnap
21-07-2010, 12:35 PM
Yawn :rolleyes:

Are you on commission Starshine? Perhaps you should change your name to 'I think the sun shines from Ickes bum so dont anyone even dare criticise him' ?

subl1minal
22-07-2010, 09:32 PM
Totally + 1.

My problem with it exactly. If it was a NEW Book full of NEW information it would be worth that amount easily. But for recycled stuff (again) - no way.

I'll tell you what's wrong with David Icke's NEW BOOK....the phrase NEW BOOK.

How the hell many books is this guy gonna write?

People pay for vital information that in this day and age could be posted free on the internet?

Humanity is in a life and death struggle and Big Dave wants to charge for a NEW BOOK?

How many different ways can he tell us that lizards are running the world and that we are being lied to, stitched up and driven like slaves?

As always forgetting the fact that the man has to make a living. It's not like his books go to the number 1 best sellers list in America. He publishes his own books, he pays for the paper they're printed on, for the despatch to locations that will sell them, pays for his body to go to other countries to talk about this stuff (i.e New York somewhere he's never spoken)

You're talking about getting information for free? since when is information free? what? from the internet? oh sorry, the internet you have to PAY for? or the conduit you have to PAY for to use the internet? or the electricity bill you have to PAY for to run the computer, that helps you go onto the internet, oh and let us not forget the home you need to PAY for in order to stick the computers plug socket in a wall and then provide you with electricity, to run the computer, thus giving you access to the internet through this computer.

Oh yes, free information indeed. Where as people can transform there lives just by reading one of Icke's books at £20 OR spend months sifting through bullshit, dis-info, new age propaganda and people's useless opinions just to get to the truth, on the internet for 'free'

:rolleyes:

apollo_gnomon
23-07-2010, 01:36 AM
As always forgetting the fact that the man has to make a living. It's not like his books go to the number 1 best sellers list in America. He publishes his own books, he pays for the paper they're printed on, for the despatch to locations that will sell them, pays for his body to go to other countries to talk about this stuff (i.e New York somewhere he's never spoken)

Yeah, what he said! If you think Icke's books are too expensive, try Inter Library Loan! Or just read Archie and Jughead (http://www.archiecomics.com/) comic books -- those are much cheaper.

thetonic
23-07-2010, 03:08 AM
Any price is fine if it really leads to the actual truth. Everyone's is different though ;)

Sorry no , there's only ONE truth.

And if you think you will find it in a book then youre sorely mistaken

pound
23-07-2010, 03:22 AM
As always forgetting the fact that the man has to make a living. It's not like his books go to the number 1 best sellers list in America. He publishes his own books, he pays for the paper they're printed on, for the despatch to locations that will sell them, pays for his body to go to other countries to talk about this stuff (i.e New York somewhere he's never spoken)

You're talking about getting information for free? since when is information free? what? from the internet? oh sorry, the internet you have to PAY for? or the conduit you have to PAY for to use the internet? or the electricity bill you have to PAY for to run the computer, that helps you go onto the internet, oh and let us not forget the home you need to PAY for in order to stick the computers plug socket in a wall and then provide you with electricity, to run the computer, thus giving you access to the internet through this computer.

Oh yes, free information indeed. Where as people can transform there lives just by reading one of Icke's books at £20 OR spend months sifting through bullshit, dis-info, new age propaganda and people's useless opinions just to get to the truth, on the internet for 'free'

:rolleyes:

Amen!

catnap
23-07-2010, 10:29 AM
As always forgetting the fact that the man has to make a living. It's not like his books go to the number 1 best sellers list in America. He publishes his own books, he pays for the paper they're printed on, for the despatch to locations that will sell them, pays for his body to go to other countries to talk about this stuff (i.e New York somewhere he's never spoken)

You're talking about getting information for free? since when is information free? what? from the internet? oh sorry, the internet you have to PAY for? or the conduit you have to PAY for to use the internet? or the electricity bill you have to PAY for to run the computer, that helps you go onto the internet, oh and let us not forget the home you need to PAY for in order to stick the computers plug socket in a wall and then provide you with electricity, to run the computer, thus giving you access to the internet through this computer.

Oh yes, free information indeed. Where as people can transform there lives just by reading one of Icke's books at £20 OR spend months sifting through bullshit, dis-info, new age propaganda and people's useless opinions just to get to the truth, on the internet for 'free'

:rolleyes:

Still conveniently side stepping the fact that there is nothing NEW in this NEW BOOK. Geez :rolleyes: If just reading this book has transformed your life then you definitely need to get out more and see whats already in front of you IN PLAIN VIEW!

Each to their own. Funny, my copy is still sat in the charity shop. Seems no one wants it for the modest sum of £4.50p and I dont blame them!

But no worries - Icke needs to make a living as you said so thats ok. We should be grateful that he wishes to save mankind at £27 a throw for recycled rhetoric.

As entertaining as this thread is its clear there is no arguing with Ickes acolytes who cant bear a glimmer of criticism of their god so have a great day :)

wanaknow
23-07-2010, 12:30 PM
Still conveniently side stepping the fact that there is nothing NEW in this NEW BOOK. Geez :rolleyes: If just reading this book has transformed your life then you definitely need to get out more and see whats already in front of you IN PLAIN VIEW!

Each to their own. Funny, my copy is still sat in the charity shop. Seems no one wants it for the modest sum of £4.50p and I dont blame them!

But no worries - Icke needs to make a living as you said so thats ok. We should be grateful that he wishes to save mankind at £27 a throw for recycled rhetoric.

As entertaining as this thread is its clear there is no arguing with Ickes acolytes who cant bear a glimmer of criticism of their god so have a great day :)


Which charity shop is this then?, I'm sure someone on here would snap it up if the lived close enough.

seanx
23-07-2010, 12:34 PM
Totally + 1.

My problem with it exactly. If it was a NEW Book full of NEW information it would be worth that amount easily. But for recycled stuff (again) - no way.

But HAVE YOU APPLIED the ideas to your OWN life????

Are you creating and enjoying the reality that you want to EXPERIENCE right now in your life??

or is your life still the same as it was?

That means mate , you may have read the book - but you haven't understood or grasped it.

The whole point is NOT about gaining MORE information - but in
applying this KNOWLEDGE to your OWN LIFE -and enjoying the game
of CREATING different realities.

Go back to the charity shop and buy it back. And tell them you've been a
silly boy!

merlincove
23-07-2010, 01:59 PM
As entertaining as this thread is its clear there is no arguing with Ickes acolytes who cant bear a glimmer of criticism of their god so have a great day :)

Love your user name :D

As the lion awakens, the catnap's :D

ROFL

seanx
23-07-2010, 02:17 PM
Love your user name :D

As the lion awakens, the catnap's :D

ROFL
:)

merlincove
23-07-2010, 02:19 PM
:)

Couldn't resist :D

spitalwings
24-07-2010, 02:00 AM
Still conveniently side stepping the fact that there is nothing NEW in this NEW BOOK. Geez :rolleyes: If just reading this book has transformed your life then you definitely need to get out more and see whats already in front of you IN PLAIN VIEW!

Each to their own. Funny, my copy is still sat in the charity shop. Seems no one wants it for the modest sum of £4.50p and I dont blame them!

But no worries - Icke needs to make a living as you said so thats ok. We should be grateful that he wishes to save mankind at £27 a throw for recycled rhetoric.

As entertaining as this thread is its clear there is no arguing with Ickes acolytes who cant bear a glimmer of criticism of their god so have a great day :)

I think i'd probably buy it for £4.50, if it looked clean.

guuna
24-07-2010, 03:10 AM
£27 (inc post and packaging) is extortionate for a book mostly made up of the same tired old stuff which is in his other books. Added to insult the 'new' stuff isnt new at all - its all borrowed from other people.

Mine went the the charity shop (strangely its still there) ;)

strange. if ever i try to loan any of ickes books from the library it's virtually impossible, there's always so many awaiting to borrow them.

'tales from the time-loop' had 12 people waiting to borrow it when i tried to order it. I gave up in the end.

subl1minal
24-07-2010, 08:42 AM
love your user name :d

as the lion awakens, the catnap's :d

rofl

1+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ :)

catnap
24-07-2010, 03:59 PM
Love your user name :D

As the lion awakens, the catnap's :D

ROFL

:( :( :( Am off to cry in to my whiskers now :(

siliconpsychosis
24-07-2010, 08:08 PM
It is too expensive when you lose the first copy bought and then have to go and buy another copy like I did.

I preordered my first copy but within 3 days of receiving it, and having only read the first 7 pages, I somehow lost the book at work. It was still in the packaging it arrived in, so my name and address were on the front. But noone seems to have seen it or chosen to return it. So now Ive forked out another load of cash and should get my new copy on Monday.

All in all Ive spent a whopping £53 to get Ickes new book. I hope he appreciates the cash and I hope the read makes the cost worthwhile.

Ps I wrote to Ickes book store staff, explained what had happened and asked if I could have a crappy damaged copy or a second hand copy so that I didnt have to pay full price. I never even got a reply so I bit the bullet and paid full price...again.

xx

freckles
24-07-2010, 08:15 PM
I sincerely have to say it is NOT too expensive. Obviously if you have no money to spare for books then, yes its expensive, but compared to some of the books out there!!!

I am struggling to read this book, I have baby brain and can not read more than a page without forgetting what I read but I think so far all of Davids books have been well worth it for the information you are getting and of course if it helps fund Davids work!! I will gladly donate my book when I get through it, if I ever get through it!!

Not sure if its the same everywhere but in Ireland you can go to the Library and ask them to order you a copy and they will :) :)

It is too expensive when you lose the first copy bought and then have to go and buy another copy like I did.

I preordered my first copy but within 3 days of receiving it, and having only read the first 7 pages, I somehow lost the book at work. It was still in the packaging it arrived in, so my name and address were on the front. But noone seems to have seen it or chosen to return it. So now Ive forked out another load of cash and should get my new copy on Monday.

All in all Ive spent a whopping £53 to get Ickes new book. I ope he appreciates the cash and I hope the read makes the cost worthwhile.

xx

This has happened to me with numerous books and makes me a bit sad but I always put it out there that whoever finds it reads it and that it changes their life in some way!!

nongeekywebdude
25-07-2010, 04:56 PM
Is david icke's new book too expensive?
answer - YES

Everyone has to make a living, but IMHO all books and DVD's that are supposed to be about spreading the truth and wakening up the masses need to be sold for as little as possible (preferably almost at cost). The reasons are simple, if the information is high priced then the only people that will buy are people that are already interested in what the authors have to say, in other words these books/dvds become "entertainment" for the already awake, preaching to the converted and having no real impact beyond that.

subl1minal
25-07-2010, 05:24 PM
answer - YES

Everyone has to make a living, but IMHO all books and DVD's that are supposed to be about spreading the truth and wakening up the masses need to be sold for as little as possible (preferably almost at cost). The reasons are simple, if the information is high priced then the only people that will buy are people that are already interested in what the authors have to say, in other words these books/dvds become "entertainment" for the already awake, preaching to the converted and having no real impact beyond that.

You have to remember that David isn't a corporation (in business sense, cause we're all corporations in 'their' little game) and he doesn't make books, dvds etc. for 20p and then sell them off for millions times their price.

I can imagine the production value for someone who is spreading the information David is spreading is very high, especially when most people won't touch it.

You've got to think of the paper it costs to print on, shipping that paper, the ink printing on that paper, the shipping of the ink that prints on that paper, the machines that bind it together and process it all. The people who turn up to the work place to switch on the machines to do that work.

The price of shipping to distributors like Amazon, Waterstone's etc. (anyone who's actually willing to sell it) the price of the food, electricity, gas, petrol etc. to keep Icke going whilst in the process of writing his book and travelling to do his talks. Accomodation, flights etc.

Same with the DVDs (or videos from the past) all the CDs he'd have to be shipped in, then be sent off to be lasered and then packeged, then the packing itself has to be paid for and shipped together. All of these things cost, time, money and energy. Something that is getting very scarce (excluding the non-monopoly energy of course ;) ) if you haven't all noticed, because of the greed of millions of other people who aren't awakened to this stuff. But a measley £20 on a book that's taken months to write and produced by Icke can change all of that for one person and that change is worth a million times more than that one £20 everyone is so up in the air about.

I tell you what, even if Icke is wealthy (not that it matters) I don't think many people on this forum would have the will to go through all of that and to produce such work for free (or even cheaply for that matter)

It's quite amazing to see how many 'free-time' new agers, truther bloggers etc. are all starting to ask for donations through YouTube etc. because they're all finding that talking about the truth and helping other people full time, isn't cheap and certainly isn't free.

Ok, my rant is over :) I'd understand the price debate if Icke was pumping out books every 6 months haha

freckles
25-07-2010, 05:36 PM
+++1 subl1minal :)

masonicboom
25-07-2010, 05:40 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar !!
No, it's easily worth $60.00

nongeekywebdude
25-07-2010, 06:40 PM
You have to remember that David isn't a corporation (in business sense, cause we're all corporations in 'their' little game) and he doesn't make books, dvds etc. for 20p and then sell them off for millions times their price.

I can imagine the production value for someone who is spreading the information David is spreading is very high, especially when most people won't touch it.

You've got to think of the paper it costs to print on, shipping that paper, the ink printing on that paper, the shipping of the ink that prints on that paper, the machines that bind it together and process it all. The people who turn up to the work place to switch on the machines to do that work.

The price of shipping to distributors like Amazon, Waterstone's etc. (anyone who's actually willing to sell it) the price of the food, electricity, gas, petrol etc. to keep Icke going whilst in the process of writing his book and travelling to do his talks. Accomodation, flights etc.

Same with the DVDs (or videos from the past) all the CDs he'd have to be shipped in, then be sent off to be lasered and then packeged, then the packing itself has to be paid for and shipped together. All of these things cost, time, money and energy. Something that is getting very scarce (excluding the non-monopoly energy of course ;) ) if you haven't all noticed, because of the greed of millions of other people who aren't awakened to this stuff. But a measley £20 on a book that's taken months to write and produced by Icke can change all of that for one person and that change is worth a million times more than that one £20 everyone is so up in the air about.

I tell you what, even if Icke is wealthy (not that it matters) I don't think many people on this forum would have the will to go through all of that and to produce such work for free (or even cheaply for that matter)

It's quite amazing to see how many 'free-time' new agers, truther bloggers etc. are all starting to ask for donations through YouTube etc. because they're all finding that talking about the truth and helping other people full time, isn't cheap and certainly isn't free.

Ok, my rant is over :) I'd understand the price debate if Icke was pumping out books every 6 months haha

Hmm the majority of your post (highlighted above) seem to be saying basically it costs money to produce dvds and books - believe it or not i knew this already:)

Also the price of the food, electricity, gas, petrol etc. to keep Icke going whilst in the process of writing his book and travelling to do his talks. Accomodation, flights etc. are you saying the book subsidises his talks? At £35 a ticket Im sure he does quite well out of the talks:)

The small publisher/not big corporation excuse has no basis in fact either - check out how to be publisher on amazon for instance, although unit costs are higher there are far fewer mouths in the trough so to speak.

Im not knocking Icke or the quality of his work, just think book is over priced. He is not alone in this either, there are many people making lots of cash out of the "alternative" audience (not suggesting this is Ickes main motivation)

subl1minal
25-07-2010, 07:15 PM
Hmm the majority of your post (highlighted above) seem to be saying basically it costs money to produce dvds and books - believe it or not i knew this already:)

Also are you saying the book subsidises his talks? At £35 a ticket Im sure he does quite well out of the talks:)

The small publisher/not big corporation excuse has no basis in fact either - check out how to be publisher on amazon for instance, although unit costs are higher there are far fewer mouths in the trough so to speak.

Im not knocking Icke or the quality of his work, just think book is over priced. He is not alone in this either, there are many people making lots of cash out of the "alternative" audience (not suggesting this is Ickes main motivation)

I was just putting things into perspective. If it's too expensive, you're too poor. Not Icke's problem.

There's no excuse to not be able to afford things in life if you really want them.

Also, the small publisher/not big corporation excuse does have basis, because if you just think about it logically for yourself. Buying DVD discs and paper to print on, can't exactly be cheap for the home publisher in a modern world.

nongeekywebdude
25-07-2010, 07:52 PM
I was just putting things into perspective. If it's too expensive, you're too poor. Not Icke's problem.

No, if you cant AFFORD it youre too poor - too expensive is a judgement call

There's no excuse to not be able to afford things in life if you really want them.

Also, the small publisher/not big corporation excuse does have basis, because if you just think about it logically for yourself. Buying DVD discs and paper to print on, can't exactly be cheap for the home publisher in a modern world.

No it doesnt, a large company may well be able to negociate a much cheaper deal on printing etc, but then they have all their other extra overheads to pay, profits for shreholders, wages, bonuses etc etc so the actual costs per unit end up being similar.

wanaknow
25-07-2010, 10:35 PM
I wonder how many of those bitching on here about the cost of David Ickes new book buy a mainstream UK newspaper every day full of Tits, Arses & Lies or how many subscribe to channel TV and of course 'free' information on the internet isn't 'free' is it, there's the monthly service provider fee. :rolleyes:

I think after 20+ years of research & ridicule, £20 for a well researched, well presented and personal up to date synopsis of 'where' humanity is, with the possible reasons 'why', written by someone who isn't afraid to name the 'who' and who just tells it like it 'really is' for us to then come to our own conclusions based on all the information he's collected, researched, verified and linked, has to be the bargain of your lifetime compared to the above, of course if you don't think so you can always spend the £20 on newspapers for a couple of months and then just throw them out with the trash

The book is worth every penny and he's earned it - so stop bitching

passing
25-07-2010, 11:54 PM
What can you do that doesn't cost money?

It's obvious that if Icke is financing his own book he needs to make the money back. So 'too expensive' is either just the state of the current market or I suppose some people assume that Icke is making a greedy, exploitative profit.
Reading his books and seeing him on the screen it's clear to me that he is not cynical like that.

pound
26-07-2010, 12:03 AM
I wonder how many of those bitching on here about the cost of David Ickes new book buy a mainstream UK newspaper every day full of Tits, Arses & Lies or how many subscribe to channel TV and of course 'free' information on the internet isn't 'free' is it, there's the monthly service provider fee. :rolleyes:

I think after 20+ years of research & ridicule, £20 for a well researched, well presented and personal up to date synopsis of 'where' humanity is, with the possible reasons 'why', written by someone who isn't afraid to name the 'who' and who just tells it like it 'really is' for us to then come to our own conclusions has to be the bargain of your lifetime compared to the above, of course if you don't think so you can always spend the £20 on newspapers for a couple of months and then just throw the out with the trash

The book is worth every penny and he's earned it - so stop bitching

Beautifully stated. +1

There's to many people on here attempting to look way to hard into something that isn't that complicated. Just buy the damn book. It will be a permanent mainstay in your library, guaranteed! Icke's books/DVD's are always money well spent.

myth
26-07-2010, 12:26 AM
Well they are two different questions


Is david icke's new book too expensive?


Is 20 pound too much to find out the truth? :confused:


It can hardly be classed as 'truth; more a load of rehashed, semi-plagiarised crap. Not all is stuff of course. I actually like David Icke, and I like a lot of what he has to say :)

catnap
26-07-2010, 09:30 AM
I was just putting things into perspective. If it's too expensive, you're too poor. Not Icke's problem.

It IS his problem when he wishes the world to wake up surely? :confused: Or does he mean the part of the world that can afford his books etc?

catnap
26-07-2010, 09:31 AM
I wonder how many of those bitching on here about the cost of David Ickes new book buy a mainstream UK newspaper every day full of Tits, Arses & Lies or how many subscribe to channel TV and of course 'free' information on the internet isn't 'free' is it, there's the monthly service provider fee. :rolleyes:

I dont buy mainstream papers (trash). I dont have subscription TV and my internet is free each month :rolleyes:

nongeekywebdude
26-07-2010, 10:28 AM
I wonder how many of those bitching on here about the cost of David Ickes new book buy a mainstream UK newspaper every day full of Tits, Arses & Lies or how many subscribe to channel TV and of course 'free' information on the internet isn't 'free' is it, there's the monthly service provider fee. :rolleyes:

I think after 20+ years of research & ridicule, £20 for a well researched, well presented and personal up to date synopsis of 'where' humanity is, with the possible reasons 'why', written by someone who isn't afraid to name the 'who' and who just tells it like it 'really is' for us to then come to our own conclusions based on all the information he's collected, researched, verified and linked, has to be the bargain of your lifetime compared to the above, of course if you don't think so you can always spend the £20 on newspapers for a couple of months and then just throw them out with the trash

The book is worth every penny and he's earned it - so stop bitching

Interesting, a thread entitled "Is david icke's new book too expensive?" but if you give an opinion stating that you think it IS too expensive then you are just bitching - classic stuff:)

Why dont they change the name of the thread to "our beloved heros book is worth every penny, please add your glowing praise below":)

People here are so enlightened and awake!

urbanmonk
26-07-2010, 01:51 PM
Really this thread is still going?

Everyone can afford the book no excuses it is just for some they might have to be patient and save up over weeks or many months to eventually get it?

I fully understand £20 might not be much to many here but for others (I have been in that situation) it is alot.

The thing is you know full well that Ickes books cost about that much so knowing that little fact and there would be a new book due out did you not simply spend the 6 Months (maybe longer) beforehand putting a little away for it.

So with the above in mind exactly why are those unable to afford it at the moment still complaining?

nongeekywebdude
26-07-2010, 02:07 PM
Really this thread is still going?

Everyone can afford the book no excuses it is just for some they might have to be patient and save up over weeks or many months to eventually get it?

I fully understand £20 might not be much to many here but for others (I have been in that situation) it is alot.

The thing is you know full well that Ickes books cost about that much so knowing that little fact and there would be a new book due out did you not simply spend the 6 Months (maybe longer) beforehand putting a little away for it.

So with the above in mind exactly why are those unable to afford it at the moment still complaining?

I can afford the book no problems, but thanks for the concern. Previously anyone who voiced an opinion saying book is too expensive in their opinion was just bitching, now they are just complaining. Obviously their opinions dont count.

The thing is you know full well that Ickes books cost about that much so knowing that little fact and there would be a new book due out did you not simply spend the 6 Months (maybe longer) beforehand putting a little away for it.

yes, all the sheeple out there should save up for 6 months in advance awaiting Ickes next book so they can be awakened, thats so gonna happen.:)

urbanmonk
26-07-2010, 03:06 PM
I can afford the book no problems, but thanks for the concern. Previously anyone who voiced an opinion saying book is too expensive in their opinion was just bitching, now they are just complaining. Obviously their opinions dont count.

My above post was not a reply at you directly, had not even read yours in fact.

You seem to be taking things ever so personally, throw away comments are clearly just too much for you to deal with and as such stepping away might be best for your wellbeing (and ffs dont take that as some sort of veiled "oh look now we being called emotionally unstable for saying Ickes book is expensive") but it might be for the best seeing as the book is not going to be reduced to mere pennies (just for you) anytime soon.

The cheapest I have seen it is £14.50 and the most expensive is around £20, what price would you even think is fair?

yes, all the sheeple out there should save up for 6 months in advance awaiting Ickes next book so they can be awakened, thats so gonna happen.:)

Your being silly now, most of the sheep who can afford his book will not get it unless it is something they have been turned onto by one of us, so no am not expecting them to be saving up for it but I am thinking it is not much to ask from us.

The fact you mention "awakened" are you really expecting that much from one book, the be all and end all so nothing else will be needed ever?

Seriously?

I would say lower those expectations and you might actually find the book worth the money but you seem to be saying that even with the almost biblical second coming pedestal you have placed it on.....you still think £20 is too much :rolleyes:

Hilarious :)

nongeekywebdude
26-07-2010, 04:59 PM
My above post was not a reply at you directly, had not even read yours in fact.

You seem to be taking things ever so personally, throw away comments are clearly just too much for you to deal with and as such stepping away might be best for your wellbeing (and ffs dont take that as some sort of veiled "oh look now we being called emotionally unstable for saying Ickes book is expensive") but it might be for the best seeing as the book is not going to be reduced to mere pennies (just for you) anytime soon.

The cheapest I have seen it is £14.50 and the most expensive is around £20, what price would you even think is fair?



Your being silly now, most of the sheep who can afford his book will not get it unless it is something they have been turned onto by one of us, so no am not expecting them to be saving up for it but I am thinking it is not much to ask from us.

The fact you mention "awakened" are you really expecting that much from one book, the be all and end all so nothing else will be needed ever?

Seriously?

I would say lower those expectations and you might actually find the book worth the money but you seem to be saying that even with the almost biblical second coming pedestal you have placed it on.....you still think £20 is too much :rolleyes:

Hilarious :)

would love to debate the points you raised in your post, but....erm..... there arent any:) just hysterical nonsense, but what can we expect from someone who makes throwaway comments in threads where they havnt even read the posts (by your own admission) hilarious stuff:)

merlincove
26-07-2010, 05:09 PM
Well it looks like this thread has run it's course now.