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Did Cleopatra give birth to Jesus, whose real name was Caesarion but later became nicknamed Issus, who was fathered by Julia Caesar? And did Jesus marry his half sister, who was Selene, better known to us as Mary Magdalene, one of a twin by Marc Anthony? If so this would have proclaimed him as the true heir to the throne of Rome! Is this what the church of Rome are trying to cover up? This would have made Jesus the 7th king of the Pharaohs! After all there is a marginal error of thirty years between BC & AD
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 07:00 PM
Hmm, this is an interesting angle.
How did this come to you?
adimon
21-10-2007, 07:07 PM
JESUS = NOT REAL
Socrates Meets Jesus (a theoretical conversation) (http://www.jameshartforcongress.com/prometheus/socvsjes.htm)
Skeptic's annotated Bible (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/long.htm)
Top 10 Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian (http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.htm)
What Would Jesus Do? (http://www.evilbible.com/what_would_jesus_do.htm)
The Official God FAQ (http://www.400monkeys.com/God/)
To tin! By studying the blue bloodlines of the royals. At first I thought I was just summarising and imagining, but when( As David says, join the dots) you get to thinking! Hey, this makes a true sense of the fictional nonsense they have fed us! especially when you study the dates and calenders they fraudulate.
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 07:19 PM
By studying the blue bloodlines of the royals. At first I thought I was just summarising and imagining, but when( As David says, join the dots) you get to thinking! Hey, this makes a true sense of the fictional nonsense they have fed us! especially when you study the dates and calenders they fraudulate.
And it really is about bloodline with these cocks.
Very interesting. I'm interested in more, if have any other material to post?
adimon
21-10-2007, 07:20 PM
To tin! By studying the blue bloodlines of the royals. At first I thought I was just summarising and imagining, but when( As David says, join the dots) you get to thinking! Hey, this makes a true sense of the fictional nonsense they have fed us! especially when you study the dates and calenders they fraudulate.
Where did you get access to genealogy information on the bloodlines? :)
uchiha
21-10-2007, 07:27 PM
Wow
this is Actually an interesting thread
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Wow
this is Actually an interesting thread
Sure is!
joss classey
21-10-2007, 07:30 PM
i'm from the angle of jesus not existing
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 07:33 PM
i'm from the angle of jesus not existing
I also have seen no evidence that Jesus existed, but this is an interesting angle, and the evidence may be locked up in one of the underground vaults beneath the Vatican.
JESUS = NOT REAL
Socrates Meets Jesus (a theoretical conversation) (http://www.jameshartforcongress.com/prometheus/socvsjes.htm)
Skeptic's annotated Bible (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/long.htm)
Top 10 Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian (http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.htm)
What Would Jesus Do? (http://www.evilbible.com/what_would_jesus_do.htm)
The Official God FAQ (http://www.400monkeys.com/God/)
I agree, the biblical Jesus is fictitious, but the man who is the true heir to the throne of Royalty, they drove away and stole his sovereignty, of him and his family who should be ruling today (not that I believe in rulers) but this is the true Blue Bloodline, that of Caesirion(Jesus) and Selene (Mary Magdeline). This is a major cover up and I believe that Princess die relates to this true bloodline!
I also have seen no evidence that Jesus existed, but this is an interesting angle, and the evidence may be locked up in one of the underground vaults beneath the Vatican.
To true tin! The stuff they don't want the masses to know about. I wonder what else they have down in there Vaults?
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 07:48 PM
To true tin! The stuff they don't want the masses to know about. I wonder what else they have down in there Vaults?
Precisely. What is so special about what's down there that us "common" folk aren't entitled to see it?
Big book of spells maybe? :D
adimon
21-10-2007, 08:00 PM
To tin! By studying the blue bloodlines of the royals. At first I thought I was just summarising and imagining, but when( As David says, join the dots) you get to thinking! Hey, this makes a true sense of the fictional nonsense they have fed us! especially when you study the dates and calenders they fraudulate.
I repeat my question. What is your source of information on genealogy of the royals?
Octavian an elder adopted son of Julia Caesar Quoted to Caesar ion (Jesus) There is only going to be one ruler and that is me and you shall die! But he didnt and was shipped off to the remote parts of Tibet. Read Nicolas Notovitch 'The lost years of Jesus Christ' or rather Issus!
Precisely. What is so special about what's down there that us "common" folk aren't entitled to see it?
Big book of spells maybe? :D
This has always made me wonder and to be so inquisitive to search the truth!
malvern
21-10-2007, 08:03 PM
I've read alike stories to these blood lines and they move to France and lived happy ever after.
freedom:)
uchiha
21-10-2007, 08:12 PM
In order to understand the relevance of the topic
you must understand and know the truth
The truth is. these royalties and nobilities DO infact obsess and revolve their rankings around BLOODLINES
it should be noted the top tier of the secret societies are called the "Jesuits"
Jesuits simply mean Jesus.......something to think about
Now before in this forum (in the religion section) There was a thread with Numerous books by an author who wrote that jesus Indeed was a real man
Just not the biblical storybook version
This theory is furthered by the topic Gold brought up
And the other one i know of is that Jesus is/was a reincarnation of Lord (I call him lord) Thoth The Atlantean
Whom was initiated in the initiation chamber in Giza in order to learn of his teachings/past life
Which is true since biblical tales recount this except they say he was "Baptized" at 30, not "Enlightened or Initiated" at 30
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 08:12 PM
This has always made me wonder and to be so inquisitive to search the truth!
What's so interesting to me is that Catholic sermons/mass/gatherings are very ritualistic, and if you look at rituals in which dark magick are being performed, you'll find some similar components.
For example:
The chanting
Turning wine into "blood" :eek:
Eating the "flesh" of [insert sacrificial name here]
Images of suffering [Christ on the cross]
and so on...
It's totally a church of sorcery...
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 08:14 PM
In order to understand the relevance of the topic
you must understand and know the truth
The truth is. these royalties and nobilities DO infact obsess and revolve their rankings around BLOODLINES
it should be noted the top tier of the secret societies are called the "Jesuits"
Jesuits simply mean Jesus.......something to think about
Now before in this forum (in the religion section) There was a thread with Numerous books by an author who wrote that jesus Indeed was a real man
Just not the biblical storybook version
This theory is furthered by the topic Gold brought up
And the other one i know of is that Jesus is/was a reincarnation of Lord (I call him lord) Thoth The Atlantean
Whom was initiated in the initiation chamber in Giza in order to learn of his teachings/past life
Which is true since biblical tales recount this except they say he was "Baptized" at 30, not "Enlightened or Initiated" at 30
Thank you, that is most interesting....
adimon
21-10-2007, 08:19 PM
Octavian an elder adopted son of Julia Caesar Quoted to Caesar ion (Jesus) There is only going to be one ruler and that is me and you shall die! But he didnt and was shipped off to the remote parts of Tibet. Read Nicolas Notovitch 'The lost years of Jesus Christ' or rather Issus!
Wiki says:-
Controversy
Edgar Goodspeed describes the debunking of Notovitch's claims as a hoax.
Notovitch's writings were immediately controversial and after the German orientalist Max Mueller corresponded with the Hemis monastery Notovitch claimed to have visited, and J.Archibald Douglas visited Hemis Monastery, and neither found any evidence that Notovich (much less Jesus) had even been there himself, his claims were widely rejected. The head of the Hemis community signed a document that denounced Notovitch as an outright liar.
The story of his visit to Hemis seems to be taken from H.P. Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled. In the original, the traveler with the broken leg was taken in at Mount Athos in Greece and found the text of Celsus' True Doctrine in the monastery library.
The idea that Jesus was in India was also inspired by a statement in Isis that he went to the foothills of the Himalayas.
Adimon says:-
Wiki of course is not always right. But it's certainly more accurate as a whole than the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or any other religious or occult text or history I've ever seen.
I repeat my question. What is your source of information on genealogy of the royals?
Well if you go back to Cleopatra, she was supposed to have been the reincarnated goddess of Issi's, she gave birth to last 7th king (Pharaohs Caesarion) being the true blue blooded royal.
If you take the Vikings, who after the fall of Jerusalem went off to conquer, named themselves the six Kings, VI Kings but there were Severn Kings and one yet to come making eight, read revelations.
Ralhp Ellis writes very good books on the subject, specifically "Cleopatra to Christ" and connecting Scotia (Queen of the Scots) as being Cleopatra buried in Scotland, can't remember that specific book's name now, have to go and look.
uchiha
21-10-2007, 08:46 PM
in regards to adimon.
It is well (to most if they know the topic) that wikipedia is owned by a former pornographic company owner
Sigh....forgive my lack of facts here cuz i just dont remember it all
but the basic idea is he and his partner are sayanims and low ranking jesuits
and all of the Wikipedia editors (they are the real editors of wikipedira) carefully comb through certain topics and edit them as they are told and instructed to do so
edit- i either got that information from this website, or Craig oxley's ... i would check it and give you the information now but i challenged oxley on certain topic and instead of proving me wrong he decided to ban me from his website and delete the post.. so i cant go there and get it for you
adimon
21-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Well if you go back to Cleopatra, she was supposed to have been the reincarnated goddess of Issi's, she gave birth to last 7th king (Pharaohs Caesarion) being the true blue blooded royal.
If you take the Vikings, who after the fall of Jerusalem went off to conquer, named themselves the six Kings, VI Kings but there were Severn Kings and one yet to come making eight, read revelations.
Have you not been reading what I'm actually posting. The Bible is absolutely chock full of contradiction, fairy-tale and outright lies and ignorance. According to the Bible, the world was created in around 4000 BC. There is clear evidence of civilisation before this time.
You say "Cleopatra was supposed to be the reincarnated goddess". Supposition is not genealogy is it?
As for Revelations, it's yet more martyr-hungry murder and destruction from the master of murder and destruction.
herebynightfall
21-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Ddid Jesus marry his half sister Mary Magdalene?
Did R Kelly piss on a 14 yr old girl ?
What's the difference in relevance between the two ?
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Their dogma doesn't allow them to question it. This is the problem. They're taught that, to even question "the word of god", is to land a place in hell. Since they are so driven by that one goal of getting into heaven, many don't dare even peek outside of their religious box. Also many Catholics view the Pope as the embodiment of Christ, so it's all very fucked up really. What the Pope/Christ says is absolute law (the things that he actually addresses, but the things that he doesn't address....who cares....that's what confession is for :rolleyes:)
It's absolute control.
adimon
21-10-2007, 08:51 PM
in regards to adimon.
It is well (to most if they know the topic) that wikipedia is owned by a former pornographic company owner
Sigh....forgive my lack of facts here cuz i just dont remember it all
but the basic idea is he and his partner are sayanims and low ranking jesuits
and all of the Wikipedia editors (they are the real editors of wikipedira) carefully comb through certain topics and edit them as they are told and instructed to do so
Fine. But it has articles with citation and corroboration, and is very often totally accurate. On issues such as religion and the occult, accuracy is moot, and objectivity is difficult, but Wiki is certainly more impartial than the lunacy of the Book of Revelation, for example.
adimon
21-10-2007, 08:53 PM
Their dogma doesn't allow them to question it. This is the problem. They're taught that, to even question "the word of god", is to land a place in hell. Since they are so driven by that one goal of getting into heaven, many don't dare even peek outside of their religious box. Also many Catholics view the Pope as the embodiment of Christ, so it's all very fucked up really. What the Pope/Christ says is absolute law (the things that he actually addresses, but the things that he doesn't address....who cares....that's what confession is for :rolleyes:)
It's absolute control.
For once, we agree. ;)
Now...where's that Catholic schoolgirl got to...? :cool:
eternal_spirit
21-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Did Jesus marry his half sister Mary Magdalene?
............
Could be and their great ancestors now sit on the throne of Great Britain, claiming to be related to either Jesus or the 12 tribes of Israel ( same thing? )
herebynightfall
21-10-2007, 08:57 PM
Did R Kelly piss on a 14 yr old girl ?
What's the difference in relevance between the two ?
Lol.. whoever said that is hilarious.
I hope that my Man jesus got what he could.
Geez, you think he cares what we say about him now?
I hope nobody in the future thinks that they'd offend me thinking that they're taking my name in vain. By making a piss joke.
eternal_spirit
21-10-2007, 08:58 PM
Precisely. What is so special about what's down there that us "common" folk aren't entitled to see it?
Big book of spells maybe? :D
...........
Ha ha, and a more true version of History and the sciences, and who knows what else.
eternal_spirit
21-10-2007, 09:00 PM
In order to understand the relevance of the topic
you must understand and know the truth
The truth is. these royalties and nobilities DO infact obsess and revolve their rankings around BLOODLINES
it should be noted the top tier of the secret societies are called the "Jesuits"
Jesuits simply mean Jesus.......something to think about
.................
Jesuits: The Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) is a Roman Catholic religious order founded in 1534 by Ignatius of Loyola, a Spanish soldier. In 1540, the group received a charter from Rome in which the members promised total loyalty to the Pope. Their Jesuit Oath (http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/one_world_religion/jesuit_oath.html) demands the initiate to lie, steal or murder, without hesitation, if ordered to do so by his superior.
Formed primarily to destroy the Protestant Reformation AND the Protestants, the Jesuits are led by their Jesuit General, often referred to as the “Black” Pope, who rules from behind the scenes. That position has been held for years by Peter-Hans Kolvenbach who is often termed the “Most Powerful Man in the World.”
There is mounting evidence that the three major recent leaders of the Catholic church are ALL Jewish. Pope John Paul II had a Jewish mother and a Jewish grandmother. The present Pope, former Cardinal Ratzinger, may well be a German Jew (Ratzinger is a Jewish name), and the “Black Pope”, Jesuit General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, could not look more Jewish. View his picture and you decide. (http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/one_world_government/kolvenback.html)
That means that the Catholic Church is probably “owned” and secretly run from the inside, by the Jews.
So the great debate about “Who runs the New World Order, the Jesuits of the Catholic Church – or – the Jews”, doesn’t need to take place? The answer is obvious. “They are One and the Same!” During the Spanish Inquisition, the Jews were threatened by the Catholic Church, “Convert or be killed.” So the leaders of International Jewry advised the Jews to appear to convert, but in reality, join – infiltrate - and take over from the inside, the structure of the Catholic Church. This is what occurred.
Remember the barbaric spirit of the Catholic Church during the Dark Ages when true Christians were horribly tortured by supposed holy men of the “Church”. Millions were martyred in the most gruesome ways.
That same “spirit” that is being manifested by the Jews’ treatment of the Palestinians, AND by the American government’s treatment of Iraqi and Afghanistani prisoners in Abu Ghraib and other torture prisons on foreign soil run by the U.S. government.
Unfortunately, this type of torture is now becoming common in U.S. prisons on U.S. soil, many of which are owned by a company called Wackenhut, a company owned and run by former CIA personnel. I will have more about Wackenhut later.
alleendewaarheid
21-10-2007, 09:02 PM
well..
knowing what we know...the illuminati has controlled "history" for quite awhile already..no?
so..isn't history just "storytelling"
there probably was never a jesus or a mary..
how do you know anything is truth unless you were there?
how do we know slavery existed?
how do we know there was a holocaust?
ah..yes...we read it in a book that some illuminati publishing company printed...hmmmm..
okay...next question...
no point in discussing fiction...
isn't all past fiction really?
did it really happen?
haha
herebynightfall
21-10-2007, 09:02 PM
There's no difference, in people viewing me as their messiah in hundreds of years from now, and people viewing Jesus as their messiah now.
I believe now, what that man believed back then.
Or at least what they say he belived.
In the brotherhood of humankind.
and just love and all that.
if i proclaim it loud enough and wide enough like jesus did, traveling.
will i be praised in the same way?
it's all a joke.
eternal_spirit
21-10-2007, 09:04 PM
edit- i either got that information from this website, or Craig oxley's ... i would check it and give you the information now but i challenged oxley on certain topic and instead of proving me wrong he decided to ban me from his website and delete the post.. so i cant go there and get it for you
...................
Rumor is he's a Zionist schill and working for the other side ( the truth suppressors )
...........
Ha ha, and a more true version of History and the sciences, and who knows what else.
To true. They conceal our true historian facts, that we are all about to discover:eek:
uchiha
21-10-2007, 09:29 PM
its funny the poster (I think amidon) or is it gold?
anyway Someone mentioned that catholics see the pope as god and his word as god.
it is constant reformation that people are sheep. they just believe what their told and are so totally ignorant its almost sick.
If you actually Read the bible it clearly says
God and God alone is the word of god NO one else.
To STATE or claim you are the word of god is SIN in its purest form
NO MAN on earth is the word of god
for the pope to state he is the word of god is the highest form of sin (in terms of catholic religion) there is
So... ya u start to dig deeper in the rabbit whole
i would say more but it seems like alot of people here dont have to much of an understanding of the jesuit society
Edit. and i dont mean you guys (the sheep part) i mean the total MASSES of people who just say. ya im catholic .. yet they dont have a CLUE what that means or its origins.. etc
adimon
21-10-2007, 09:31 PM
how do we know slavery existed?
how do we know there was a holocaust?
ah..yes...we read it in a book that some illuminati publishing company printed...hmmmm..
1. Slavery still exists
2. We know there was a holocaust because there are thousands of people still alive that had first-hand experience of the instruments of Die Endlösung der Judenfrage.
adimon
21-10-2007, 09:33 PM
If you actually Read the bible it clearly says
God and God alone is the word of god NO one else.
To STATE or claim you are the word of god is SIN in its purest form
NO MAN on earth is the word of god
for the pope to state he is the word of god is the highest form of sin (in terms of catholic religion) there is
Since you are proclaiming yourself as Catholic, can you shed any light on the points I have raised regarding Christian beliefs at all?
alleendewaarheid
21-10-2007, 09:34 PM
adimon,
current slavery..ok..but past stuff...don't buy it unless i was there..
everyone i ever met (and i've been around the world and lived around the world) who had experienced world war II said they noticed nothing...some mentioned food shortages and stuff..but most said they didn't notice so much..
so..unless i've met even one person (not on TV thank you) then it won't work for me...
uchiha
21-10-2007, 09:40 PM
Since you are proclaiming yourself as Catholic, can you shed any light on the points I have raised regarding Christian beliefs at all?
lol. im not proclaiming myself as catholic in ANY way
I just have an understanding of the origins and concepts of the religion as you all should if you wish to discuss this topic properly
anoninnyc
21-10-2007, 09:48 PM
What's so interesting to me is that Catholic sermons/mass/gatherings are very ritualistic, and if you look at rituals in which dark magick are being performed, you'll find some similar components.
For example:
The chanting
Turning wine into "blood" :eek:
Eating the "flesh" of [insert sacrificial name here]
Images of suffering [Christ on the cross]
and so on...
It's totally a church of sorcery...
well said
tinmenace
21-10-2007, 09:48 PM
well said
Wooo girl! You're still with us. How's it going?
eternal_spirit
21-10-2007, 10:01 PM
lol. im not proclaiming myself as catholic in ANY way
I just have an understanding of the origins and concepts of the religion as you all should if you wish to discuss this topic properly
...............
I'm Catholic :o Although it would be more politically correct and more acceptable to be a Satanist etc these days. Oh the shame me a big bad Catholic lol. I don't do Church, or confession. But ten hail Mary's and a Our Lord's prayer should square it with Jesus...
its funny the poster (I think amidon) or is it gold?
anyway Someone mentioned that catholics see the pope as god and his word as god.
it is constant reformation that people are sheep. they just believe what their told and are so totally ignorant its almost sick.
If you actually Read the bible it clearly says
God and God alone is the word of god NO one else.
To STATE or claim you are the word of god is SIN in its purest form
NO MAN on earth is the word of god
for the pope to state he is the word of god is the highest form of sin (in terms of catholic religion) there is
So... ya u start to dig deeper in the rabbit whole
i would say more but it seems like alot of people here dont have to much of an understanding of the jesuit society
Edit. and i dont mean you guys (the sheep part) i mean the total MASSES of people who just say. ya im catholic .. yet they dont have a CLUE what that means or its origins.. etc
It was adiom! Well here's something else for adiom;
The New York Statue of Liberty was a gift from a temple Freemason (frederickagoose) Spelling? In 1886
The statue has nothing to do with liberty. The face of the statue matches that to an ancient minted coin of Selene (Mary Magdalene)
The statue of liberty was designed to appear pregnant, implicating she was pregnant and that she gave birth to Jesus's kids, Tamar and Jesus the Justice, That Royals claim to be descendants from;
...............
I'm Catholic :o Although it would be more politically correct and more acceptable to be a Satanist etc these days. Oh the shame me a big bad Catholic lol. I don't do Church, or confession. But ten hail Mary's and a Our Lord's prayer should square it with Jesus...
:D:D:D
adimon
21-10-2007, 10:07 PM
lol. im not proclaiming myself as catholic in ANY way
I just have an understanding of the origins and concepts of the religion as you all should if you wish to discuss this topic properly
My apologies. I misread your post.
i mean the total MASSES of people who just say. ya im catholic .. yet they dont have a CLUE what that means or its origins.. etc
I read this the first time as you saying that you were Catholic. Sorry. :)
adimon
21-10-2007, 10:09 PM
adimon,
current slavery..ok..but past stuff...don't buy it unless i was there..
everyone i ever met (and i've been around the world and lived around the world) who had experienced world war II said they noticed nothing...some mentioned food shortages and stuff..but most said they didn't notice so much..
so..unless i've met even one person (not on TV thank you) then it won't work for me...
Fair enough. I myself have only met one holocaust survivor and three soldiers involved with the discovery of the camps, and these are hard people to come by.
adimon
21-10-2007, 10:14 PM
It was adiom! Well here's something else for adiom;
The New York Statue of Liberty was a gift from a temple Freemason (frederickagoose) Spelling? In 1886
The statue has nothing to do with liberty. The face of the statue matches that to an ancient minted coin of Selene (Mary Magdalene)
The statue of liberty was designed to appear pregnant, implicating she was pregnant and that she gave birth to Jesus's kids, Tamar and Jesus the Justice, That Royals claim to be descendants from;
Hey, its adimon. Not amidon, or adiom. You know, you only have to look at my avatar to check the spelling. I normally don't pick people up on their spelling or grammar at all, but come on guys...
As for the Statue of Liberty, what point are you trying to make? Do you honestly feel that there could be no other faces that match?
anoninnyc
22-10-2007, 12:09 AM
Wooo girl! You're still with us. How's it going?
any day now. when i stop posting you will know when it has finally happened.
graflok
22-10-2007, 01:41 AM
Precisely. What is so special about what's down there that us "common" folk aren't entitled to see it?
Big book of spells maybe? :D
You may be right. I've heard there are materials down there about our
forgotten collective past that are used for mind control purposes.
tinmenace
22-10-2007, 01:47 AM
You may be right. I've heard there are materials down there about our
forgotten collective past that are used for mind control purposes.
That whole place is suspect! I mean what's up with the Egyptian obelisk outside? (It was actually shipped from Egypt). An aerial view of the Vatican looks like a keyhole. They're a "country" but aren't part of the EU? How do they get away with this shit?
uchiha
22-10-2007, 01:50 AM
sigh
I think alot of people are either asking hypothetical questions fishing for others to answer
or they just really dont know to much about the topic or the occult societies in question
edit- so i wont be TOO hypocritical .. the vatican is shaped like a key to symbolize it is the key to all the knowledge in the world
And they can do whatever they want because it is ruled by ....realistically the most powerful people on the planet
tinmenace
22-10-2007, 02:10 AM
sigh
I think alot of people are either asking hypothetical questions fishing for others to answer
or they just really dont know to much about the topic or the occult societies in question
edit- so i wont be TOO hypocritical .. the vatican is shaped like a key to symbolize it is the key to all the knowledge in the world
And they can do whatever they want because it is ruled by ....realistically the most powerful people on the planet
Yes, isn't it incredible that people are blind to it?
adimon
22-10-2007, 02:11 AM
I think alot of people are either asking hypothetical questions fishing for others to answer
or they just really dont know to much about the topic or the occult societies in question
I've just read back through the thread and can't find any hypothetical questions...just a reference to a book about Jesus going to the Orient, a Wiki page, the Statue of Liberty, and various comments circulating them.
I did make the point that there isn't any actual evidence that Jesus ever existed, let alone go on a pilgrimage to India.
uchiha
22-10-2007, 02:33 AM
My point is.. this website is a place for people like us to discuss the information not well known to others
And in some cases....or actually all cases life altering
Health wise
Spiritually
Wisdom
and it goes on
I for one come here to talk about these things thinking others will have a good understanding of them
And i hope for the most part they do:)
synak
22-10-2007, 05:22 AM
Zeitgeist anyone?
uchiha
22-10-2007, 05:41 AM
Zeitgeist anyone?
that movie is an opinion
its ok
but the freedom/fascism stuff barely scratches the surface
synak
22-10-2007, 05:48 AM
that movie is an opinion
Depends what your referring to specifically. There is much fact to be found in various segments of the film.
uchiha
22-10-2007, 07:09 AM
Depends what your referring to specifically. There is much fact to be found in various segments of the film.
im referring more so to the religious part
Yes it checks out, but so do 2 other dominant theories. and i am going to sleep so wait till tomorrow for story time
Hey, its adimon. Not amidon, or adiom. You know, you only have to look at my avatar to check the spelling. I normally don't pick people up on their spelling or grammar at all, but come on guys...
As for the Statue of Liberty, what point are you trying to make? Do you honestly feel that there could be no other faces that match?
Thaks for teh carrecshone inn me sepeling ov ya name, eye stand curectid ADIMONN!:rolleyes:
I was only trying to point out the fact that the Statue of liberty's face tends to depict that of an ancient minted coin of Selene, the daughter of Cleopatra and Marc Antony, who later went on to call herself Magdalene.
That whole place is suspect! I mean what's up with the Egyptian obelisk outside? (It was actually shipped from Egypt). An aerial view of the Vatican looks like a keyhole. They're a "country" but aren't part of the EU? How do they get away with this shit?
And so is London's square mile and Washington city state, which also gives home to Egyptian obelisks. The three are all city states, they all have there own Independence's. Could this be what is meant by the Holy Trinity (The Three) Religion, Money and Military Might?
synak
22-10-2007, 09:40 AM
im referring more so to the religious part
Yes it checks out...
So how is it mere opinion then?
adimon
22-10-2007, 12:13 PM
Thaks for teh carrecshone inn me sepeling ov ya name, eye stand curectid ADIMONN!:rolleyes:
I was only trying to point out the fact that the Statue of liberty's face tends to depict that of an ancient minted coin of Selene, the daughter of Cleopatra and Marc Antony, who later went on to call herself Magdalene.
LOL!
Ok, well, good luck with your research. :)
Did Cleopatra give birth to Jesus, whose real name was Caesarion but later became nicknamed Issus, who was fathered by Julia Caesar? And did Jesus marry his half sister, who was Selene, better known to us as Mary Magdalene, one of a twin by Marc Anthony? If so this would have proclaimed him as the true heir to the throne of Rome! Is this what the church of Rome are trying to cover up? This would have made Jesus the 7th king of the Pharaohs! After all there is a marginal error of thirty years between BC & AD
The Holy of Holies in Solomon’s Temple represented the womb of ASHTORETH/ASHERAH, who was also the Phoenician goddess of love and fruitfulness, Astarte in Greece and Rome, Atar Gatis (a mermaid) in Syria. Ashtoreth was identified with Greek goddesses Hecate (witchcraft) and Selene (moon = Roman Luna) - often associated with each other; Artemis (wild nature, harvest, hunting as Agrotora, wild animals especially bears as Kalliste, fishermen as Britomartis (Sweet Maiden, moon goddess, snake-mermaid)/Diktynna, (who may be one person or lovers) childbirth, chastity, youth and young women = Roman Diana, and Aphrodite (love/beauty = Roman Venus). Selene (who loved Endymion) had a sister Eos (Roman Aurora) goddess of dawn - both were daughters of Theia. The Phoenician goddess of the moon was Tanit. Creator goddesses have always been associated with the moon, for obvious reasons even to its control of tides and water - and horses too especially to the Celts, because of their moon shaped hoof prints
THE NAG HAMMADI CODICES found near Qumran (like the Dead Sea scrolls), ancient centre of the Essenes, thought to have been written by Valentinus from Christian and Coptic texts, were a reflection of Platonism and Eastern dualism religion, Zoroastrianism. They have brought additional Gospels to the fore including that of Mary Magdalen - her true importance is said to have been excluded from the Bible by Peter (and the Roman Catholic Church) who denied Christ and detested women, especially educated ones, seeing them as the gateway to the Devil, even denying they had souls.
According to Gnostic tradition Mary Magdalen was associated with wisdom (Sophia) represented by the sun, moon and halo of stars, becoming Athena to the Greeks. The female gnosis of Sophia (mother of Zoe (Life, thought to be EVE and Pandora), one of the AEONS, gnostic creators of all things, daughters of Barbello) was deemed to be the Holy Spirit, represented on Earth by Mary Magdalen.
The red cloaked priestesses such as Mary Magdalen, of early Judaeo-Christianity, the HIERODULAI, became defamed as harlots, whores or scarlet women, by end of the 6th century. She is often portrayed in a red cloak over a green dress of fertility. Jesus called her Apostle of the Apostles. As a head sister Mary was entitled to wear black, like the priests of Isis, and there are many statues of BLACK MADONNAS with black hands and faces in France, in churches on pagan sites dedicated to Isis and Athena, and some cults are also associated with LILITH. Wisdom (Sophia) is black having existed in the darkness of Chaos before creation.
Mary the mother of Jesus, the token woman in the Roman and Orthodox church, was therefore only permitted to be portrayed wearing blue (heaven) and white (purity)! Earlier she wore a red dress - her mother St Anne wore a red dress (love) and green cloak (rebirth). Protestant religions ignored her completely.
The Marys (with her brother and sister Lazarus and Martha), fled into exile in France, after they had supported Jesus during the crucifixion and resurrection (the men were not present), arriving at Les Saintes Maries de la Mer, (Three Marys of the sea, Tres Matres) Mary Magdalen bearing the child of Jesus, his daughter Tamar. Said to have been the Gnostic wife of Jesus she later bore him a son, Jesus. To early Jews celibacy was an anathema and Magdalen is the only woman not descibed as 'mother of', or 'wife of', indicating a woman of substance, and entitled to annoint with precious oils.
An association between Mary and the sea grew up, as well as with the HOLY GRAIL which they brought with them - the chalice (and horseshoes) also represented to the cultists the uterus, the wine the menstrual Star Fire/Gold of the Gods/Vehicle of Light of alchemy and Kundalini (hence vampirism), and MATRILINEAL inheritance.
In addition to the connection to the sea there was a connection to water - la Dompna del Aquae, Mistress of the Waters. To the Gnostics and Celts, venerated females were associated with lakes, wells, fountains and springs. Mary Magdalen was buried at Aix (Acqs - water) en Provence, and royal descendants in Grail lore became known as Fisher Kings, the Merovingians.
pigpot
23-10-2007, 08:58 AM
i'm from the angle of jesus not existing
Jesus the myth, can we now stop being Christian and grow up as for every Christian there will be a Muslim who wants a fight and for every Muslim there is an Aetheist who says they are both wrong and then along comes the existentialists and their shit.
The problem is by even considering the Illuminati fed crap by saying, "OOOHH, this looks an interesting post, I'll give it credibility by replying", we end up as a human race dragging ourselves further and deeper into the crap instead of getting out of this whole we've dug ourselves into.
Still don't mind me, carry on up your Kyber's,
pigpot, or maybe I'm not...............
h1s_l0rdsh1p
23-10-2007, 12:07 PM
So, this would explain why Jesus was just someone in the know, and not the true messiah.. So, who was the true messiah? Would we recoqnize them? Or even know about them?
actually jesus never claimed to be the messiah, but he did claim to be the son of man, but the son of man is tributed into the jewish genesis.So if jesus never claimed to be the messiah, what do you think he possibly meant?
adimon
23-10-2007, 02:30 PM
Jesus the myth, can we now stop being Christian and grow up as for every Christian there will be a Muslim who wants a fight and for every Muslim there is an Aetheist who says they are both wrong and then along comes the existentialists and their shit.
The problem is by even considering the Illuminati fed crap by saying, "OOOHH, this looks an interesting post, I'll give it credibility by replying", we end up as a human race dragging ourselves further and deeper into the crap instead of getting out of this whole we've dug ourselves into.
Still don't mind me, carry on up your Kyber's,
pigpot, or maybe I'm not...............
So, this would explain why Jesus was just someone in the know, and not the true messiah.. So, who was the true messiah? Would we recoqnize them? Or even know about them?
actually jesus never claimed to be the messiah, but he did claim to be the son of man, but the son of man is tributed into the jewish genesis.So if jesus never claimed to be the messiah, what do you think he possibly meant?
Actually, I don't think it's 'not grown up' to ask the Christians for any proof that Jesus existed. Outside of the Bible, there is no evidence that he did.
I think Christians are in denial, and don't like to consider this, because it's not important to them, just their 'faith'*.
*=see also delusion, denial, death
in all honesty i am not really religous at all, but what i am is extremely curious and do like to research things in depth that seem to be the biggest controversial topics and debates. Jesus existing? yes it is to my belief he did.Did he exist as the iconic figure he has been portrayed as? that i am still trying to learn
adimon
23-10-2007, 03:03 PM
in all honesty i am not really religous at all, but what i am is extremely curious and do like to research things in depth that seem to be the biggest controversial topics and debates. Jesus existing? yes it is to my belief he did.Did he exist as the iconic figure he has been portrayed as? that i am still trying to learn
I admire your honesty. But why do you believe that J.C. did exist?
oh a multitude of different reasons, it will take me a long time to write it down, but expect my answer at some point this evening :)
Jesus the myth, can we now stop being Christian and grow up as for every Christian there will be a Muslim who wants a fight and for every Muslim there is an Aetheist who says they are both wrong and then along comes the existentialists and their shit.
The problem is by even considering the Illuminati fed crap by saying, "OOOHH, this looks an interesting post, I'll give it credibility by replying", we end up as a human race dragging ourselves further and deeper into the crap instead of getting out of this whole we've dug ourselves into.
Still don't mind me, carry on up your Kyber's,
pigpot, or maybe I'm not...............
Well Alelulia! A guy who thinks on his feet, good on ya pigpot! Not afraid to face up to other possibilities, rather than the crap we are fed!
If we keep on digging, we might get ourselves out yeah?
warofconsciousn
23-10-2007, 11:21 PM
Did Jesus marry his half sister Mary Magdalene?
Did the tooth fairy marry father christmas :confused:
tinmenace
23-10-2007, 11:31 PM
Did Jesus marry his half sister Mary Magdalene?
Did the tooth fairy marry father christmas :confused:
More importantly, how did they make babies? :confused:
More importantly, how did they make babies? :confused:
well they didn't, but if they had i would guess they did it by fucking each other !!!:rolleyes:
tinmenace
23-10-2007, 11:36 PM
well they didn't, but if they had i would guess they did it by fucking each other !!!:rolleyes:
Loosen up, it was a joke.
i am sorry obviously you could not hear my laughing whilst i was replying to you
but i was
tinmenace
23-10-2007, 11:44 PM
i am sorry obviously you could not hear my laughing whilst i was replying to you
but i was
:p
adimon
24-10-2007, 12:08 AM
well they didn't, but if they had i would guess they did it by fucking each other !!!:rolleyes:
I think I might have nightmares about this now. Cheers, girls ;)
tinmenace
24-10-2007, 12:20 AM
I think I might have nightmares about this now. Cheers, girls ;)
Yar! Like OUCH! :eek:
I think I might have nightmares about this now. Cheers, girls ;)
you are welcome:D
I think I might have nightmares about this now. Cheers, girls ;)
Well sleep with the light on!:rolleyes:
pigpot
24-10-2007, 08:24 AM
So, this would explain why Jesus was just someone in the know, and not the true messiah.. So, who was the true messiah? Would we recoqnize them? Or even know about them?
No, how many times do we need to go through this. THERE IS NO MESSIAH and there was never any intention of one ever coming. Just more crap and false hopes to keep the believers believing for eternity and while doing so posing no threat to the establishment.
pigpot, or maybe I'm not.
adimon
24-10-2007, 08:06 PM
Well sleep with the light on!:rolleyes:
It's OK, it turned out I had a more pleasant dream than expected. After a slow start polishing belt buckles, I laid down on my bed and slowly filled up with a white, warming light. :P
It's OK, it turned out I had a more pleasant dream than expected. After a slow start polishing belt buckles, I laid down on my bed and slowly filled up with a white, warming light. :P
God! you took your time getting back, you must have had a good kip:rolleyes:
adimon
24-10-2007, 08:34 PM
God! you took your time getting back, you must have had a good kip:rolleyes:
Actually no, I CAN'T get more than 4 hours in one go*, but I've been working all day and am now catching up on all the banter and debate. Mainly banter tonight no good new threads. :(
*= unless I have company ;) :cool: :eek: :D :) :p ;)
It's OK, it turned out I had a more pleasant dream than expected. After a slow start polishing belt buckles, I laid down on my bed and slowly filled up with a white, warming light. :P
ha ha ha ha i am not going to live that down now am i ?
adimon
24-10-2007, 08:44 PM
ha ha ha ha i am not going to live that down now am i ?
Only by coming up with something even better. I'm sure you'll excel yourself again soon! :cool:
why do you not believe that i can learn my lesson first time round ?:p:D
Actually no, I CAN'T get more than 4 hours in one go*, but I've been working all day and am now catching up on all the banter and debate. Mainly banter tonight no good new threads. :(
*= unless I have company ;) :cool: :eek: :D :) :p ;)
SHAME
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:02 PM
why do you not believe that i can learn my lesson first time round ?:p:D
No, I think you can resist everything except temptation. And me, of course! ;) :D :eek: :o :rolleyes: :cool: :) :p
shit you have me worked out :eek:
what gave me away ?
No, I think you can resist everything except temptation. And me, of course! ;) :D :eek: :o :rolleyes: :cool: :) :p
'O' God:rolleyes:
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:07 PM
shit you have me worked out :eek:
what gave me away ?
Your dreams gave you away darlin :cool:
Your dreams gave you away darlin :cool:
Can i come to the wedding? I promise to behave and spell your name right adiimonn!
Your dreams gave you away darlin :cool:
have i not told you before to keep out of my dreams when i am not conscious:D
Can i come to the wedding? I promise to behave and spell your name right adiimonn!
oh we believe in co-habiting seperately
oh we believe in co-habiting seperately
OK
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:18 PM
oh we believe in co-habiting seperately
Yeah, you'd never be able to keep up with me...
...I do everything fast. Well not quite everything ;)
Yeah, you'd never be able to keep up with me...
...I do everything fast. Well not quite everything ;)
I bet you do every thing fast:D:D
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:32 PM
I bet you do every thing fast:D:D
No, you must be referring to my older films. I've got a LOT better since then. :cool: :eek: :p
No, you must be referring to my older films. I've got a LOT better since then. :cool: :eek: :p
So you do admit you were slow?
Yeah, you'd never be able to keep up with me...
...I do everything fast. Well not quite everything ;)
hence the reason we co-habit seperately :D:p
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:45 PM
So you do admit you were slow?
No, I've always been just right. You have me mistaken for my slightly less ridiculously-good-looking twin brother. ;)
I hear words like "beauty" and "handsomeness" and "incredibly chiseled features" and for me that's like a vanity of self absorption that I try to steer clear of.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is. :cool:
Mo0n5tar
24-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Jesus is the Sun, the Goddess is Virgo, aka, mary, maya, myrra, Ishtar, Isis and Hecate.
The true Jesus would have been crucified on a stake, not a cross, he would have been of semitic origin, probably speaking Aramaic, he was baptised and initiated into a sect, this sect held the belief that inner revelation of God was more important than political achievements in determining the leader of their people, a leader would be ordained by god therefore the Romans were scared, they moved to assail the leader of this sect and this is why the lost teachings of "Jesus" turned up thousands years later after being hidden, those scrolls go into detail, and have the answers to who the real Jesus was and what he represented...
hence the reason we co-habit seperately :D:p
Well there's slow and slow, but admin this just takes the (well I don't know):rolleyes:
adimon
24-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Well there's slow and slow, but admin this just takes the (well I don't know):rolleyes:
Slow slow quick quick slow
Long long short short long
admin? shmadmin! :D
No, I've always been just right. You have me mistaken for my slightly less ridiculously-good-looking twin brother. ;)
I hear words like "beauty" and "handsomeness" and "incredibly chiseled features" and for me that's like a vanity of self absorption that I try to steer clear of.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is. :cool:
There is! I've found that out already; Boy are you slow!
pigpot
24-10-2007, 10:10 PM
Jesus is the Sun, the Goddess is Virgo, aka, mary, maya, myrra, Ishtar, Isis and Hecate.
The true Jesus would have been crucified on a stake, not a cross, he would have been of semitic origin, probably speaking Aramaic, he was baptised and initiated into a sect, this sect held the belief that inner revelation of God was more important than political achievements in determining the leader of their people, a leader would be ordained by god therefore the Romans were scared, they moved to assail the leader of this sect and this is why the lost teachings of "Jesus" turned up thousands years later after being hidden, those scrolls go into detail, and have the answers to who the real Jesus was and what he represented...
Sorry it's just more rubbish!!!!!! There is no Jesus!!
Jesus is the Sun, the Goddess is Virgo, aka, mary, maya, myrra, Ishtar, Isis and Hecate.
The true Jesus would have been crucified on a stake, not a cross, he would have been of semitic origin, probably speaking Aramaic, he was baptised and initiated into a sect, this sect held the belief that inner revelation of God was more important than political achievements in determining the leader of their people, a leader would be ordained by god therefore the Romans were scared, they moved to assail the leader of this sect and this is why the lost teachings of "Jesus" turned up thousands years later after being hidden, those scrolls go into detail, and have the answers to who the real Jesus was and what he represented...
The Romans were scared, because Jesus (Caesarion was heir to the throne of Rome) My guess is, he made such an impact on the people of the time, they had no choice but to silence him, to let Octavian take control.
But they didn't silence him, and as one of them (Alien or shape shifter) he's still out there today, and this is what they are afraid of!
Mo0n5tar
24-10-2007, 11:37 PM
There was a crucified jewish "Messiah" who was baptised and initiated into the early nasorean sect,of course his name was not Jesus, but a rose by any other name still smells as sweet...
adimon
24-10-2007, 11:38 PM
There is! I've found that out already; Boy are you slow!
I'm no match for you gold. You've got me bang to rights even if you don't get my humour ;)
I'm no match for you gold. You've got me bang to rights even if you don't get my humour ;)
Well adominnnn!(Only joking) Don't patronize, your a match for anyone on here, you demand the answers and that's good and I admire that, keep it it up:) & Yes, you can pick me up on my spelling anytmie Ha!
pigpot
25-10-2007, 03:04 AM
I'm not going to post on this thread again because of all the crap saying that Jesus was real. He was no more real than me posting on this website and you can't see me, don't even know whether it's me or somebody acting as me.
What crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p
narcolepticwatchman
25-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Did Cleopatra give birth to Jesus, whose real name was Caesarion but later became nicknamed Issus, who was fathered by Julia Caesar? And did Jesus marry his half sister, who was Selene, better known to us as Mary Magdalene, one of a twin by Marc Anthony? If so this would have proclaimed him as the true heir to the throne of Rome! Is this what the church of Rome are trying to cover up? This would have made Jesus the 7th king of the Pharaohs! After all there is a marginal error of thirty years between BC & AD
I agree, the biblical Jesus is fictitious, but the man who is the true heir to the throne of Royalty, they drove away and stole his sovereignty, of him and his family who should be ruling today (not that I believe in rulers) but this is the true Blue Bloodline, that of Caesirion(Jesus) and Selene (Mary Magdeline). This is a major cover up and I believe that Princess die relates to this true bloodline!
Princess Diana died / was murdered / sacrificied / whatever in a car crash on August 31st 1997. Cleopatra committed suicide / was murdered? / sacrificed ? / whatever by an Asp bite to the bosom on 31st August 31BC apparently. Interesting.