about Alex Jones' Endgame

[rossus]

i just watched the trailer (http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/endgamedvd.html),
and he says the global elite want to kill 80% of humanity.

why would they want to do that?
maybe to ensure their own survival?

if 80% of humanity would be dead,
nature would get a chance to restore itself.

the earth could become green again,
the air could become clean
and the fish would get the chance to multiply and make the sea more fishy. (food ensurance)

rapid increase of world population was good for them because:
- it speeded up the invention of new technology (david rockefeller is almost 100 years old today because of medical knowledge)
- immense groups of people living very close together in cities are more easily manipulated than people living far apart, because of the sheep mentality.
this made it possible to spread their power more quickly.
- many other reasons.


so now.
they've spread their power all over the world,
they've got their new technologies,
they've got all the money they could ever dream off,
are the big amount of people still of use to them?
i think they too realize that the world population is becoming a little bit too big.


i don't want to scare anyone with this thread.
i don't believe they will do massive depopulation (although it's possible),
and if they do i don't care if i die. death is not a problem :)

[horus21]

i just watched the trailer (http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/endgamedvd.html),
and he says the global elite want to kill 80% of humanity.

why would they want to do that?
maybe to ensure their own survival.

if 80% of humanity would be dead,
nature would get a chance to restore itself.

the earth could become green again,
the air could become clean
and the sea could become fishy again.


i don't want to scare anyone with this thread.
i don't believe they will do massive depopulation (although it's possible),
and if they do i don't care if i die. death is not a problem :)

Yeah very possible and probable seeing its happened to civilisations on this planet for a score thousand years with backdated structures to prove it... and whats the bet in their own age, there was a history dating back a numerical moment of time in which they had brainwashed their own populous with. We could all be out of this shit hole in the next decade... and the evidence to support this possibility is growing day to day.

Im happy, when Im out of this shit hole Il be able to rest lol. A peaceful planet I hope to be resurrected upon.... Fuck living in this hell of a system I tell you... I play it properly all the same. Feel me

[eternal_spirit]

i don't want to scare anyone with this thread.
i don't believe they will do massive depopulation (although it's possible),
and if they do i don't care if i die. death is not a problem :)
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Well first thing, Jones is said by many here to be disinfo and a Zionist shill, who avoids the fact they are more involved with most of the Shit going down on the Planet, past, present and future.

Yes when you find out this information it's a 100 times worse than watching an entire collection of horror movies labeled A to Z. A Will it happen?
B Can we stop it?

I'd rather stay alive, because you don't know if you're coming back until you die. And if you do there's no way of knowing if it's back to heaven or Hell.

[eternal_spirit]

Yeah very possible and probable seeing its happened to civilisations on this planet for a score thousand years with backdated structures to prove it... and whats the bet in their own age, there was a history dating back a numerical moment of time in which they had brainwashed their own populous with.

Im happy, when Im out of this shit hole Il be able to rest lol. A peaceful planet I hope to be resurrected upon.... Fuck living in this hell of a system I tell you... I play it properly all the same. Feel me
.................

Yes like a de ja vu of history repeating itself.

What's the choice, play the system and keep head above water. Go against the system and end up homeless, poor and alone. Either way you can still end up with nothing much.

[horus21]

lol just watched the trailer... gota love his voice huh...

But before that... 80% of us... Must Die... in that alex jones voice of his... hes great huh gota love him

[horus21]

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Yes like a de ja vu of history repeating itself.

What's the choice, play the system and keep head above water. Go against the system and end up homeless, poor and alone. Either way you can still end up with nothing much.

well I think its a no brainer, we need cash so we need to play ball. But we gota be smart about it.

We'll be okay one way or the other. Never worry.

[razed1]

because post 2012 apocalytic situation, the elite feel like they will still be in control of the earth,

a brand new age for them to rule over earth as they have done in past ages, so they want a nice small workable number of slave population to serve them

500,000 thousand ppl is alot easier to maipulate than 5 billion







but this time the ppl will wake up

[strider]

I'd rather stay alive, because you don't know if you're coming back until you die. And if you do there's no way of knowing if it's back to heaven or Hell.

Sort of goes against your forum name :D

[horus21]

because post 2012 apocalytic situation, the elite feel like they will still be in control of the earth,

a brand new age for them to rule over earth as they have done in past ages, so they want a nice small workable number of slave population to serve them

500,000 thousand ppl is alot easier to maipulate than 5 billion







but this time the ppl will wake up
Relax with the info, we want you to make it to 2012 lol

[rossus]

I'd rather stay alive, because you don't know if you're coming back until you die.
that's ok mate.
if you die and there's no life after death for you,
there won't be a you to feel sorry about himself.
but this time the ppl will wake up
maybe :)

[razed1]

Jones is said by many here to be disinfo and a Zionist shill, who avoids the fact they are more involved with most of the Shit going down on the Planet, past, present and future.



i dont beleive alex is a zionist puppet or anything like that


alex jones has ppl behind him who were like the ppl who represent the american (texas oil) establishment


there are powers in the elites who dont want the NWO, cause that prob means control by rothschild/england monarchy

[eternal_spirit]

i dont beleive alex is a zionist puppet or anything like that


alex jones has ppl behind him who were like the ppl who represent the american (texas oil) establishment


there are powers in the elites who dont want the NWO, cause that prob means control by rothschild/england monarchy

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Yes, even the Elite will fight among each other for more power, wealth etc. The British Royalty claim to be genetically related to many USA big wigs. It's always been a case of keep it in the family, and that also goes for who they breed with. The Elite families many claim to be bloodlines of the Lost tribes of Israel, or the 12 tribes,same thing. It's something they invented, I'd say, and there are no bloodlines of Solomon, David, Jesus, Jacob, Israel etc.

It's the divine right to rule, claiming ancestory to dead religous figures and royalty. Mohamed is another example in the Arab world.

[eternal_spirit]

that's ok mate.
if you die and there's no life after death for you,
there won't be a you to feel sorry about himself.

maybe :)

...................

:) yes, still scares me the older I become. :eek:

[razed1]

but i still think alex is doing the best he can, like hes real, with real emotions and real values

thats why he blows up on t.v., cuase hes doing it from the heart, so although alex' family might have ties, i dont think of him in a negative liGht

[eternal_spirit]

but i still think alex is doing the best he can, like hes real, with real emotions and real values

thats why he blows up on t.v., cuase hes doing it from the heart, so although alex' family might have ties, i dont think of him in a negative liGht

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I don't know, I used to think the same. I've been listening to too much Watt lol! I trusted Watt for almost a year, and now I'm loosing faith in all of them. He's always going on about the mass culling (the Elite they think where sheeple cattle etc ) Extermination, or population control as the eugenicists like to call it. I just don't wan't it to be true. But think it's possibly their plan, or one of them.

[razed1]

alan watts is a good researcher, but he doesnt see the big picture of control


if you bring up ideas of e.t. visitation, hollow earth, etc you will see the limitations of his POV, same thing with alex, he has a kind of closed minded on some things too

but that doesnt mean malice on his part, ppl, even dacid icke, all in the process of waking up to truth

as long as the person pursues the truth without prejudice, it all good with me, and you can sense if someone has a golden heart, shills expose themselves after a while (like noam chomsky)

but having said that, alan watts has done an amazing job of going to the lummies literature and exposing their own admissions, gotta give him props for that

[eternal_spirit]

alan watts is a good researcher, but he doesnt see the big picture of control


but having said that, alan watts has done an amazing job of going to the lummies literature and exposing their own admissions, gotta give him props for that

....................

Yes that's why you need Icke to cover the spiritual, other dimensional stuff. I don't buy the ascen(sion) = Sion = Zion, which means Sun? used to believe it, but I've known about this for many years, and those who are convinced now that you can ascend 2012 many will loose that belief long before that date.

I'm no mathematical genius and too get a true or better grasp of Astrology/astronomy, you need to be a genius. Unless much of it is BS and there to confuse us, have us looking in the wrong places.

Watt's main point is, the evil is being done by and will be seen by men, so that's where the battle is, so he has that in common with Jonsey. It's a fucking mess and beyond our control, so it seems, any wonder people believe in God, the ascension etc. And it's all very well blaming the leaders, but no way I'll be joining the military, I'd be responsible for pulling the trigger and killing.

Or are there so many mind controlled solders, some even micro chipped have no control over their actions, if that's the case we are fucked.

[gremlin]

nwo comes a knocking http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Battle/cross.gif

[razed1]

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Yes that's why you need Icke to cover the spiritual, other dimensional stuff. I don't buy the ascen(sion) = Sion = Zion, which means Sun? used to believe it, but I've known about this for many years, and those who are convinced now that you can ascend 2012 many will loose that belief long before that date.

I'm no mathematical genius and too get a true or better grasp of Astrology/astronomy, you need to be a genius. Unless much of it is BS and there to confuse us, have us looking in the wrong places.

Watt's main point is, the evil is being done by and will be seen by men, so that's where the battle is, so he has that in common with Jonsey. It's a fucking mess and beyond our control, so it seems, any wonder people believe in God, the ascension etc. And it's all very well blaming the leaders, but no way I'll be joining the military, I'd be responsible for pulling the trigger and killing.

Or are there so many mind controlled solders, some even micro chipped have no control over their actions, if that's the case we are fucked.

I don't buy the ascen(sion) = Sion = Zion, which means Sun? used to believe it, but I've known about this for many years, and those who are convinced now that you can ascend 2012 many will loose that belief long before that date.

no way, i can FEEL it, with each passing day, i gain new ground in understanding, its something i cant explain, but i have doubt from the core of my being, that we are ascending to higher levels of consciousness

we can accept that the elites have been in control of earth for a long time, they are giving us all this technology, slowly introducing us to more possibiliites, but not by choice, they know that the human consciousness is expanding and growing, but they want to twist it to their own advantage


2012 is the next leap in consciousness, you can symbolically decipher this information in all the great works of myth, fiction, non-fiction of these lummie authors

ppl can feel the speeding up of time, i can feel it, but its strange, i used to feel it a lot more, but ever since this past november, it feels like my consciousness is right up to speed


see 2000 yrs ago, there was a change in consciousness, a paradigm shift , before that, the CAESAR was thought of as a representaion of the godforce on earth, but there was a shift and ppl were no longer accepting this blatant lie, so rome fell, but the elites adapted and changed their modus operandi, and this the 'church' was born, here to control things until, jesus, or god would come back and runs things

see this was a natural advancement in consciousness, but the elites know how we tick, and thus change accordingly

then when it was time, they had the industrial revolution, they new our conscoiusness was going through another phase, and thus they herded us into cities, like rats, and created this aritifical world of dollars and cents, hours and minutes, all to keep you occupied from getting any 'rest' so you consciousness wont be able to reach an equilibrium


and now they will try to convince you that the next evolution of mankind is through external technology, so you are more willing to be chipped and controlled through technology,

theyve created this stupid new science, where they try to explain everything away, and always disregarding the main thing in your existence, SPIRIT

theyll explain the whole universe, but the basis of this explanation is that there is no oeverarching spirit which can be called the godforce


this whole modern thinking, civilised crappy man they wanna create, never considers anything spiritual in his daily existence

this is the MAIN REASON for chirisitanity, islam, and judaism, all left brained, 5 sense religions, which give you a FALSE sense that this world is 'controlled' and 'ruled' by some LORD, the name ISLAM = SUMBIT!!

the name itslef means to submit, submit to whom??? i aint submitting to NOBODY, not even a god, because the real godforce is impersonal, there is no need for the godforce to force anybody or anything to submit,

this is ALL brainwashing to keep your mind in shambles,


but alan watts, a fine scholar and researche, but he doesnt have this implicit SPIRIUTAL UNDERSTANDING of the situation



the MAIN reason we have chemtrails, is not to toxify us, if that was the case, they woulda been doing it as daily as they do now, since the like the 70s-80s, no, the MAIN reason they are doing it is beacuse they want to block out the SUN

yes the SUN, nothing negative or bad, hey its the reason you exist, but they dont want us to get the full daily effect of the sun that we would be geetting, if they werent spraying chemtrails and creating a grey layer of cloud cover


look how warm it is nowadays, it late OCTOBER! and i can go outside in a tshirt and shorts, there wont any snow, the only time it snows now, is when they manpulate the weather, and it melts up the next day!!!


but theyll try and sell you a whole global warming propaganda, to of course bend it to their advantage




so there far too much EVIDENCE that 2012 is REAL, is happening, ppl who are adept can ALREADY see the changes,




theyve given us the internet, which is essentially like having psychic powers, i think after 2012, we will develop psychic abilities, this is like a test run,

and if you notice ALL the information about the illuminati and NWO is on the internet, we are being tested to see if we use this technology and our time WISELY, those who want to know will find the truth, the rest of the sheep are too busy in their egos

and 2012 represents the dissolving of the ego, so those yuppiies will feel like an apocalypse is happining, everything that happens is meant to happen, you can bet on that

as for d.icke, sorry to say, but he doesnt have it all on the extra dimensional stuff, he is also trying to explain it away from a modern point of inter dimensions etc, but this stuff has been talked about in the ancient religions, and although he does talk about the spiritual side, he does get some stuff confused

like when he came out in tales form timeloop and starting talking about teh matrix, and oneness etc, i feel this did more confusing for his audience, than figuring stuff out

[cf24]

I don't buy all these mass population reduction theories, why go to all the bother of putting in all these control systems in place to then go and wipe the majority of us out, just don't make sense....

[razed1]

I don't buy all these mass population reduction theories, why go to all the bother of putting in all these control systems in place to then go and wipe the majority of us out, just don't make sense....

becuase if you will see, the control system they are putting up is suited to control a smaller # of ppl than what exists, so it kinda proves the theory of mass population control


everything theyve written about, the NWO, 1984, PNAC, etc etc, is stuff we are seeing coem into fruition, so why is it so hard to beelive that they will try to do what theyve been writing about for a loong time

the queens husband, talked about his fantasy is to reincarnate as a virus and wipe off the human race off the planet???

their intetntions seem clear

[cf24]

Well, as they have been in near total control of everything long before today, don't you think they would have other ways of reducing the population long before now, why wait?

[razed1]

Well, as they have been in near total control of everything long before today, don't you think they would have other ways of reducing the population long before now, why wait?

your literally at the end of time itself, all the things youve heard about the 'end days', or 'armageddon' these ppl will try to bring these predictions into reality

i can think of only one way to reduce the population by that big of a margin, and thats either a nuclear bomb, or bio-warfare, maybe both

so you cant just drop an atmoic bomb out the blue, there must be some reason, or escalation, and thats what theyre trying witht eh whole iran and middle east situation right now

but nothing certain, there one wildcard they cant predict, and that the SHEEP waking up to their 'game'

who knows,

[dondaz]

I don't buy all these mass population reduction theories, why go to all the bother of putting in all these control systems in place to then go and wipe the majority of us out, just don't make sense....

Without all these control systems in place it would be very difficult to put their depop agenda into place, especially in western Europe and the USA, where people believe they are free.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5763305085917474727&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5266407857239848481&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6056499818120863453&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2898416399354263789&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2053020,00.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/090407bioweapons.htm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIHR2JTDBk

[alleendewaarheid]

i believe what bill cooper said about alex...CIA disinfo drone to pump fear...

i like that he pushes for 911 truth but i'm pretty skeptical...

i think mostly he's about promoting fear..

the illuminati want to create the illusion of power and fear..

why?

because they're actually very weak...

[tinmenace]

I don't buy all these mass population reduction theories, why go to all the bother of putting in all these control systems in place to then go and wipe the majority of us out, just don't make sense....

Yeah, it makes you wonder why the Church encourages procreation, and with the Catholics, I believe that contraception is absolutely forbidden. Why not start there? Why not "un-ban" it, especially in the poorer regions, many of which have massive Catholic or Jesuit influence, so that the people can plan their families according to their means.

There seems to be a constant battle between two factions of "gods". One side says this...and the other says that, and people are hopping from foot to foot to comply. It's a disaster.

[cf24]

Without all these control systems in place it would be very difficult to put their depop agenda into place, especially in western Europe and the USA, where people believe they are free.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5763305085917474727&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5266407857239848481&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6056499818120863453&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2898416399354263789&q=depopulation&total=245&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2053020,00.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/090407bioweapons.htm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIHR2JTDBk

World population has increased from some 1.6 billion in 1900 to around 6.5 billion currently, so why if they have been pulling the strings for such a long time have they let the population climb to current levels, only to instigate some mass cull in the very near future?

[tinmenace]

Well, as they have been in near total control of everything long before today, don't you think they would have other ways of reducing the population long before now, why wait?

Another good question, one I have pondered for a long time. I think that the more "energy cells" they have here in the form of human consciousness, the more energy they are able to harness for their ultimate plan (which I'm still trying to figure out what it is), which involves the Temple Mound in Jerusalem.

What is their ultimate goal? Let's say they are able to enslave all of humanity. Ok, then what? There's something more...there has to be.

[razed1]

i believe what bill cooper said about alex...CIA disinfo drone to pump fear...

i like that he pushes for 911 truth but i'm pretty skeptical...

i think mostly he's about promoting fear..

the illuminati want to create the illusion of power and fear..

why?

because they're actually very weak...


if you do a cursory listen of alex, you will prob get this idea, but if you listen to him a few shows, you will understnad it only his personality, hes just natrually a hot head

and it doesnt help to cool ones anger when theyre constructing a control grid and all yuppies can do is "giggle and snicker" :D LOL

i know its not good, but me and my bro listen to him whenver we for the jokes alone!

[alleendewaarheid]

razed 1,

i focus on his positives...and believe me i find his 911 truth actions (like NYC) good enough for me..

if that's a CIA drone working..well..they're pretty stupid (the CIA)..haha

and can't help the illuminati's cause for him to be marching and on the radio regarding 911...

[eternal_spirit]

I've known of the ascension for about 16 years, the hippies have been waiting since the 60's. I was so stoned one night and had been reading that the Earth's energies where vibrating at a quickening rate and 2012 could happen ten years or so earlier.

I thought it was happening one night! lol I felt really good and the sky was a weird color turned out to be the Northern lights or some astronomical event. :rolleyes:

I've tried to convince people of the ascension over the years ( they think I'm nuts! ) Same when you try explain NWO mind control etc. It's a quick way to loose many friends trying to convince them about all this stuff. While I've been waiting for the ascension, others have got married, kids etc. I have nothing, no job, money and soon no home the way it's going.

That's what can happen, but on the other hand all this can happen to others who aren't waiting for the ascension.

The point is, What you going to do ( sit there meditating, for world peace and trying to ascend ) While the NWO police pay a visit to whisk you off to the Fema camps?

Do you think you'll be immune to bullets and poison?

[tinmenace]

Do you think you'll be immune to bullets and poison?

If it's your time, it's your time. If it's not, you'll find yourself immune.

[razed1]

razed 1,

i focus on his positives...and believe me i find his 911 truth actions (like NYC) good enough for me..

if that's a CIA drone working..well..they're pretty stupid (the CIA)..haha

and can't help the illuminati's cause for him to be marching and on the radio regarding 911...

so what skeptical about?

[razed1]

I've known of the ascension for about 16 years, the hippies have been waiting since the 60's. I was so stoned one night and had been reading that the Earth's energies where vibrating at a quickening rate and 2012 could happen ten years or so earlier.

I thought it was happening one night! lol I felt really good and the sky was a weird color turned out to be the Northern lights or some astronomical event. :rolleyes:

I've tried to convince people of the ascension over the years ( they think I'm nuts! ) Same when you try explain NWO mind control etc. It's a quick way to loose many friends trying to convince them about all this stuff. While I've been waiting for the ascension, others have got married, kids etc. I have nothing, no job, money and soon no home the way it's going.

That's what can happen, but on the other hand all this can happen to others who aren't waiting for the ascension.

The point is, What you going to do ( sit there meditating, for world peace and trying to ascend ) While the NWO police pay a visit to whisk you off to the Fema camps?

Do you think you'll be immune to bullets and poison?

this physical body is nothing without the spirit that animates it, (through dna, btw)

but they can hurt you flesh, and eventually you will be back in another body,

its corruption of the spirit one should be worried about

[eternal_spirit]

no way, i can FEEL it, with each passing day, i gain new ground in understanding, its something i cant explain, but i have doubt from the core of my being, that we are ascending to higher levels of consciousness

we can accept that the elites have been in control of earth for a long time, they are giving us all this technology, slowly introducing us to more possibiliites, but not by choice, they know that the human consciousness is expanding and growing, but they want to twist it to their own advantage


2012 is the next leap in consciousness, you can symbolically decipher this information in all the great works of myth, fiction, non-fiction of these lummie authors

ppl can feel the speeding up of time, i can feel it, but its strange, i used to feel it a lot more, but ever since this past november, it feels like my consciousness is right up to speed


see 2000 yrs ago, there was a change in consciousness, a paradigm shift , before that, the CAESAR was thought of as a representaion of the godforce on earth, but there was a shift and ppl were no longer accepting this blatant lie, so rome fell, but the elites adapted and changed their modus operandi, and this the 'church' was born, here to control things until, jesus, or god would come back and runs things

see this was a natural advancement in consciousness, but the elites know how we tick, and thus change accordingly

then when it was time, they had the industrial revolution, they new our conscoiusness was going through another phase, and thus they herded us into cities, like rats, and created this aritifical world of dollars and cents, hours and minutes, all to keep you occupied from getting any 'rest' so you consciousness wont be able to reach an equilibrium


and now they will try to convince you that the next evolution of mankind is through external technology, so you are more willing to be chipped and controlled through technology,

theyve created this stupid new science, where they try to explain everything away, and always disregarding the main thing in your existence, SPIRIT

theyll explain the whole universe, but the basis of this explanation is that there is no oeverarching spirit which can be called the godforce


this whole modern thinking, civilised crappy man they wanna create, never considers anything spiritual in his daily existence

this is the MAIN REASON for chirisitanity, islam, and judaism, all left brained, 5 sense religions, which give you a FALSE sense that this world is 'controlled' and 'ruled' by some LORD, the name ISLAM = SUMBIT!!

the name itslef means to submit, submit to whom??? i aint submitting to NOBODY, not even a god, because the real godforce is impersonal, there is no need for the godforce to force anybody or anything to submit,

this is ALL brainwashing to keep your mind in shambles,


but alan watts, a fine scholar and researche, but he doesnt have this implicit SPIRIUTAL UNDERSTANDING of the situation



the MAIN reason we have chemtrails, is not to toxify us, if that was the case, they woulda been doing it as daily as they do now, since the like the 70s-80s, no, the MAIN reason they are doing it is beacuse they want to block out the SUN

yes the SUN, nothing negative or bad, hey its the reason you exist, but they dont want us to get the full daily effect of the sun that we would be geetting, if they werent spraying chemtrails and creating a grey layer of cloud cover


look how warm it is nowadays, it late OCTOBER! and i can go outside in a tshirt and shorts, there wont any snow, the only time it snows now, is when they manpulate the weather, and it melts up the next day!!!


but theyll try and sell you a whole global warming propaganda, to of course bend it to their advantage




so there far too much EVIDENCE that 2012 is REAL, is happening, ppl who are adept can ALREADY see the changes,




theyve given us the internet, which is essentially like having psychic powers, i think after 2012, we will develop psychic abilities, this is like a test run,

and if you notice ALL the information about the illuminati and NWO is on the internet, we are being tested to see if we use this technology and our time WISELY, those who want to know will find the truth, the rest of the sheep are too busy in their egos

and 2012 represents the dissolving of the ego, so those yuppiies will feel like an apocalypse is happining, everything that happens is meant to happen, you can bet on that

as for d.icke, sorry to say, but he doesnt have it all on the extra dimensional stuff, he is also trying to explain it away from a modern point of inter dimensions etc, but this stuff has been talked about in the ancient religions, and although he does talk about the spiritual side, he does get some stuff confused

like when he came out in tales form timeloop and starting talking about teh matrix, and oneness etc, i feel this did more confusing for his audience, than figuring stuff out

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Damn good post. I may reply later, but I do agree with much of it.

[cf24]

If it's your time, it's your time. If it's not, you'll find yourself immune.




I happen to agree......:D

[alleendewaarheid]

razed1,

still skeptical..

i don't trust people who promote fear..he promotes fear..his 911 truth stuff is great stuff..but the other crap..it keeps people focused on this illusion.that ain't good

it's important to be aware but not to place your energies and focus on it..

[alleendewaarheid]

eternal spirit,

you are preaching to part of the choirhaha..

no bullets can touch you unless you believe they can..your thoughts attract things to you..

what i know..and i'm not trying to sound arrogant because it doesn't exist for me anymore..

once you get to 5D noone can touch you...you are protected...

it has to do with the energy..no lower vibrational types can even come near you..i've had it myself..i've had nothing but love and friendliness and support coming in all the time..

i'm glad to have you sensing things and putting it on here..

believe me..i've been tempted to close my mouth about the ascension with most people...even "new agers"...i met another girl i believe is a "1st waver"..we talked forever...she had other entities talking thru her it was freakin weird..but..she gave me advice to not talk to others about what you're going thru..she said they either wouldn't understand...

anyways...you seem special...

love you lots for what you post!

[dondaz]

i believe what bill cooper said about alex...CIA disinfo drone to pump fear...

i like that he pushes for 911 truth but i'm pretty skeptical...

i think mostly he's about promoting fear..

the illuminati want to create the illusion of power and fear..

why?

because they're actually very weak...

They are very weak. But if AJ were on their side, he'd be blasting his message out on msm on a regular basis. And so would the likes of Hannity and O'Reilly, amongst many others. I have listened to Coopers interview on AJ a few times. When AJ started doing his stuff over ten years ago, no-one had ever seen such a personality exposing the illuminati like Alex before, Bill Cooper included.

If you choose to fear Alex Jones for his style, energy, drive and personality, then fear him you will. You don't expose what he does and still be on the same side of the illuminati. He is waking people up big time and TPTB will do anything to smear him.

I was told I was a fear monger the other day because of my police vids, only a matter of time before someone says I too work for them:cool::D

Yeah, it makes you wonder why the Church encourages procreation, and with the Catholics, I believe that contraception is absolutely forbidden. Why not start there? Why not "un-ban" it, especially in the poorer regions, many of which have massive Catholic or Jesuit influence, so that the people can plan their families according to their means.

There seems to be a constant battle between two factions of "gods". One side says this...and the other says that, and people are hopping from foot to foot to comply. It's a disaster.

This is why TPTB are breaking christianity and faiths down into one world religeon, one church etc.

World population has increased from some 1.6 billion in 1900 to around 6.5 billion currently, so why if they have been pulling the strings for such a long time have they let the population climb to current levels, only to instigate some mass cull in the very near future?

They have tried many different ways to reduce populations over the years, drugs and steralisation against mental patients and black americans, aids across Africa, ebola and a whole heap of other shit and it never works as fast as they would like it to. War has always been the best and fastest way to depopulate a country.

The New World Order is the ultimate war machine and I believe WW3 to be the depopulater of all the depopulation programs they have ever had.

The Georgia Guidestones say they want 500.000.000 on the planet by the year 2050. That's 6 billion in the next 50 years.

...the horrors to come if we don't stop them...

[cf24]

They have tried many different ways to reduce populations over the years, drugs and steralisation against mental patients and black americans, aids across Africa, ebola and a whole heap of other shit and it never works as fast as they would like it to. War has always been the best and fastest way to depopulate a country.

The New World Order is the ultimate war machine and I believe WW3 to be the depopulater of all the depopulation programs they have ever had.

The Georgia Guidestones say they want 500.000.000 on the planet by the year 2050. That's 6 billion in the next 50 years.

...the horrors to come if we don't stop them...

We got different thoughts on this one mate, I don't buy it, you do..... We got different ways of dealing with whats going on.

Thats all good though...:)

[dondaz]

We got different thoughts on this one mate, I don't buy it, you do..... We got different ways of dealing with whats going on.

Thats all good though...:)

It's great mate. Your still my pal;)

[cf24]

It's great mate. Your still my pal;)

:cool::D

[synak]

razed1,

still skeptical..

i don't trust people who promote fear..he promotes fear..his 911 truth stuff is great stuff..but the other crap..it keeps people focused on this illusion.that ain't good

it's important to be aware but not to place your energies and focus on it..

I'll have to agree with Alleen on this.

[gremlin]

If this is so important the information alex jones has says it is why cant he just upload it and we can all watch it?
Why do we have to pay $19.99, this way if it goes on to his website people would watch it, surely. or is alex jones not in this 80% of people that are gonna be killed.

[gremlin]

If this is so important the information alex jones has says it is why cant he just upload it and we can all watch it?
Why do we have to pay $19.99, this way if it goes on to his website people would watch it, surely! or is alex jones not in this 80% of people that are gonna be killed.

[dondaz]

If this is so important the information alex jones has says it is why cant he just upload it and we can all watch it?

He will have it uploaded to google for free soon. As he has always done with his films, and he also endorses making copies of his films and passing them on to others. I don't blame him for selling his dvds. He needs to make money, as we all do!

[graflok]

I don't know the answer to the AJ question. I do enjoy AJ's work but then
I used to think a lot of public figures were cool until I learned more about
what was really going on. :mad: So, I always leave room for doubt.

I think cf24 raised some important questions here.
The PTBs could kill us all anytime they want (or so it seems anyway) yet they
haven't. They seem to be planning to do just that, but, if so, why all the
elaborate games then? Is the population reduction plan real or just a ruse?

Some suggest that they need our consent to do the things they do and the
games are designed to achieve that (P-R-S, etc.) Maybe there is something
to this but then they also appear to do things without consent (9/11, Katrina,
etc., etc.) so this doesn't completely explain it either.

Of course, I could be trying to make sense out of something that is
fundamentally insane but I do think this is an important mystery to solve.

[alleendewaarheid]

synak,

you are obviously awake my friend..

[carlg1212]

World population has increased from some 1.6 billion in 1900 to around 6.5 billion currently, so why if they have been pulling the strings for such a long time have they let the population climb to current levels, only to instigate some mass cull in the very near future?

So that they can justify the extermination. It's a common pattern: PRS.

[alleendewaarheid]

population figures are lies also..

just like polls..

maybe there are only 3 billion people on the planet

maybe bush has a 0% approval rating..

most polls and stats are lies..

[razed1]

If this is so important the information alex jones has says it is why cant he just upload it and we can all watch it?
Why do we have to pay $19.99, this way if it goes on to his website people would watch it, surely! or is alex jones not in this 80% of people that are gonna be killed.

are u gonna ask why david icke is charging to view his movies/forum???

youre just worst kind of yuppy, having all the backseat driving tips

you know it actually costs $$ to operate websites, radio shows whatever

alex jones has SO much free material on his web, and youre whining because hes charging to view his brand new movie,

you ppl really make me sick

[razed1]

razed1,

still skeptical..

i don't trust people who promote fear..he promotes fear..his 911 truth stuff is great stuff..but the other crap..it keeps people focused on this illusion.that ain't good

it's important to be aware but not to place your energies and focus on it..

youre not using your rationale

you have to understand the mans position, his main audience is the middle class ppl of usa, these are primarily christians who make up the usa foundation

just because hes not talking about inter dimensions or something that is not as far as what you like to talk about, doesnt mean hes intentionally trying to hide the truth


ppl need to realize they cant go to one guy, not even david icke, for all their answers,

plz use common sense

dont let conspiracy trolls affect your better judgement

judge a tree by its fruits, and alex jones is prob the most important american to live in the past while, imo

he doesnt always focus on the negative, hes just mainly giving news nwo daily news that come out, i dont see all this news being covered anywhere else, or by other conspiracy researchers DAILY


it really gets me mad that ppl badmouth him cause he doesnt fit your narrow view on what a conspiracy guy should be like

[alleendewaarheid]

razed1,

i use my heart...that has all the answers..

lots of love toyou!

[challand]

They want to kill 80% of us because then they could completely control the remaining 20%... They are the few, we are the many - they just want to even the odds a bit.

And as for Alex Jones being a dis-info agent... Oh please, I think you've been reading to much dis-info on him. lol

[synak]

synak,

you are obviously awake my friend..


Thank you. ;)

"Training our minds to recognize and expose deception will become more and more difficult in the days to come. Partly this is due to an over-abundance of information: as more and more raw data is thrown at us from disparate sources, our mind loses its ability to separate fact from fallacy. The body can be trained to lift heavy weights and run long distances. So too can the mind be trained to identify a con quickly. But training takes time and dedication. The key is to create an entirely new view, or way of looking at events as they happen."

[razed1]

razed1,

i use my heart...that has all the answers..

lots of love toyou!

lots of luv back, :)

[carlg1212]

maybe there are only 3 billion people on the planet

Can you imagine people's reaction if you said that? They would be in udder disbelief, and say "But, but, but...the television said there are 6 billion! You're full of shit!!".

It's tough to argue with people like that. They accept lies so readily.