More Stop And Search Plans

[fremmenwarrior]

Call to increase stop and search - Police Chief's are calling for more young people to be stopped and searched to help tackle knife and gun crime... a leading black police representative says. Keith Jarrett, the outgoing president of the National Black Police Association (NBPA), said he would be pressing police for such an approach. He said: "The black community is telling me we have to look at this."

Some senior black police officers have criticised the suggestion fearing it could lead to racial profiling. According to Home Office figures, black people are six times more likely to be stopped than white people. This disparity has led to continued charges of police racism and critics say that increased use of stop and search tactics would inevitably affect the black community disproportionately.

Keith Jarrett will use a speech at the NBPA's annual conference this week to ask Police Minister Tony McNulty and Metropolitan Police chief Sir Ian Blair to consider searching more young people. The suggestion contradicts the approach taken by the NBPA to date which has questioned the high proportion of black people stopped and searched by police.

Mr Jarrett told BBC News 24: "It's not that we should stop and search more black youths. It's not just black people that carry weapons, white people carry weapons as well. I am saying the police service should stop young people because young people are the victims of, and the perpetrators of, a lot of these crimes."

Mr Jarrett said he was reflecting the feelings of the black community who believed stop and search was an effective way of disrupting gangs and reducing violence. But he acknowledged that it might increase tension in some communities because it was "not as sharp a tool" as police would like.

The NBPA's legal adviser, Chief Supt Ali Dizaei, told the BBC the comments were Mr Jarrett's personal views. He said stop and search was "a very, very small part" of the fight against knife and gun crime and increasing its use would be wrong. I think that [it] will increase tension in the black community. Stop and search was only valuable where it was "intelligence-led" not random."

COMMENT: Yet another classic example of the hidden elite pulling puppet politicians strings to bring in their enslaving police state legislation - and cleverly stirring up as much racial tension as possible between blacks and whites in the process, just to keep the pot boiling...

[sangye]

Certain countries, such as the United States and Canada, have provisions in their constitutions that provide the public with the right against "unreasonable" search and seizure. This right is generally based in the promise that everyone is entitled to a reasonable right to privacy.


All they have to do is say no to the police.

[gremlin]

i'd rather have people p*ssed off than carrying around knives and weapons.

I've seen 2 blacks with knives actually walk into a columbian restaurant and give it, and the columbians came out with knives themselves. rather intimidating. but no better not stop black people because its stereotyping.

[fremmenwarrior]

Gremlin, I agree that it is better for joe public to suffer the hassle of an occasional stop and search if knives, guns, offensive weapons etc., are kept off our streets; and certainly if one has nothing to hide then it won't bother people to be stopped and searched.

However, whenever the Police are given new powers, or told to increase their quotas, they NEVER ever do things by half measures! and many of the arrogant ****ing pricks will use this as an excuse to 'ruff up' and hassle 'targeted' groups of people on the streets.

The Police will deny it till they are blue in the face but they do ALWAYS target certain stereotypes - i.e. black males, white youths in baseball caps, white football supporters, cars with three or more youths in them, cars with blacked out windows etc.

I'm sure we can all see where this will eventually lead - to a police state where we will be required to produce our papers/i.d. cards on request, otherwise we will be arrested and be deemed guilty until proven innocent.

Prevention is ALWAYS better than cure. The hapless government of the day harps on about our streets being awash with drugs and criminals - but nothing ever changes whatever govt is in power - things only get worse - because this is exactly how the politicinas WANT our steets to be like! They want us to live in a shitty, crime-ridden hellhole, living in fear and opprression.

To me, the judicial system here in the UK is a complete joke and is nothing more than a glorified debt collection agency taking in millions of pounds in fines from offenders every year. Victims suffer - criminals get lighter sentences and/or let out of prison early.

High crime rates = lots of money in 'their' coffers, and to hell with the poor victims. We are almost in that situation whereby we are in effect policing ourselves. These days you hardly ever see 'real' police on the beat in the streets - they are too shit scared - so they've recruited those community police stoodges to stand on the front line for them. The 'real' Police will come out to the scene of a reported crime immediately ONLY if a firearm / offensive weapon is used - they don't give a shit about street robbery, shoplifters, muggings, burgulary, or criminal damage to people's property, anti-social behaviour etc.

The foolish policies of successive UK governments since the end of WWII = the results of what we see all around us on our streets today. How different this country, and indeed the whole world WILL BE when we oust the despotic elite from their lofty (but temporary) position of wealth, controlling power and social status! How I long for that day...

[truthseeker1980]

Hi Gremlin,

That's exactly what i was thinking when i saw the news last night. It's to get us used to being more regulary stopped and searched for when it will be illegal to leave your house without your ID card, resulting in like you said any people who forgot their card, being locked up for 30 days without a phone call or any legal representation and presumed guilty until proven innocent.

Hopefully by then there will be enough awakened people to break the foundations of the power pyramid and bring the top tumbling down.

[nuit]

it is actually a violation of your human rights if a police officer stops and attempts to search you. Unless they have had a report of a criminal act occuring and the perpertrator's description matches yours and you are within reasonable distance to where the reported sighting occured. Even then if they want to proceed further in there enquiries than just obtaining your name and address details, i.e want to search your pockets, it is the law that they must take you away from the public view/eye to carry out such act