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afghancool
01-07-2010, 07:58 PM
Devout Christians should pose these questions to the pope

With a recent statement announcing the entire world that it has a moderate outlook on Darwin’s evolution theory, Vatican claimed that the faith of creation in Christianity and biological evolution are complementary. With this statement indicating the Pope’s point of view on Darwin, Vatican, the symbol of Christianity, has undertaken the patronage of an surprising, and even disturbing explanation.

In the face of these explanations that can never be reconciled with faith in Allah (God) and Christianity, it needs to be brought to light whether these extremely disturbing statements belong to Vatican or not. For this reason, DEVOUT CHRISTIANS SHOULD POSE THESE QUESTIONS TO THE POPE:

1. The entire world of Christianity and Islam await the descend of Prophet Jesus (pbuh). When Prophet Jesus (pbuh) comes, will you be able to look into his eyes and say, “You have come into being by evolution”?

2. Allah took Prophet Jesus (pbuh) into His sight. How will you explain his second coming to Earth by evolution?

3. According to your faith, did Gabriel [Jibril (pbuh)], Michael [Mikhail (pbuh)] and all the other angels stated in the New Testament and all the other holy books come into being by evolution?

4. Did the jinn stated in the Bible and the Qur’an come into being again by way of evolution?

5. Did satan come also into being by evolution?

6. Did Prophet Moses’ (pbuh) staff, which immediately turned into an alive snake that had the ability to reproduce, come into being by way of evolution?

7. Did the bird Prophet Jesus (pbuh) make out of mud and made it alive by blowing on it come into being by evolution? (The Qur'an 3:49)
Devout Christians and press should pose all these questions to the Pope. Only the answers to these questions will have a validity for sincere people of faith. The press should accept the answers of these questions as the Vatican’s statement, and not the statements given on Vatican’s behalf. Consequently, without waiting for the answers of these questions, people should not give credit to the statements that appear in some press organs as the Pope’s statements about evolution.

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edelweiss pirate
01-07-2010, 08:27 PM
I think you mean 'devout Roman Catholics'.

BTW Catholicism ISN'T Christianity.

The clue's in the name 'Roman'. That's what it is. The Pope is a Roman Emperor.

Ironic really considering what the Romans did to the early Christians.

But most people don't really get that far.


The Roman state needed to subvert the 'dangerous' religion of love and charity.

And they managed it. Still, we have the words of Jesus at least to give us hope and guidance.

energi
01-07-2010, 08:36 PM
The abrahamic religions (judaism, christianity, islam) doesn't make any sense, what did you expect? :p

But shouldn't this be asked from ehm... catholics? All these denominations - people of the christian faith oughta tell the Pope to STFU and dismiss the vatican althogether.

01cobravortech
01-07-2010, 08:41 PM
The pope is not the head of the Church. Jesus Christ is. The Vatican is just an institution and there millions of Christians that aren't Catholic. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit better on Christianity. Because your just another fellow that has virtually no idea how diverse the Christian community is. Million upon millions of Christians look to the Word of God in the Bible to be led, not to the pope. I wish people like you would understand that once and for all. Seems far too many folks are caught up in the Davinci Deception and don't have a clue as to the diversity that exists within the Church.

Btw, Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. He's God Himself.

edelweiss pirate
01-07-2010, 08:49 PM
The abrahamic religions (judaism, christianity, islam) doesn't make any sense, what did you expect? :p



Says a man with 'hail the Norse Gods!' in his sig.

Oh the irony.

seanx
01-07-2010, 09:44 PM
The pope is not the head of the Church. Jesus Christ is. The Vatican is just an institution and there millions of Christians that aren't Catholic. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit better on Christianity. Because your just another fellow that has virtually no idea how diverse the Christian community is. Million upon millions of Christians look to the Word of God in the Bible to be led, not to the pope. I wish people like you would understand that once and for all. Seems far too many folks are caught up in the Davinci Deception and don't have a clue as to the diversity that exists within the Church.

Btw, Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. He's God Himself.

So you must be God too?

kryst
01-07-2010, 09:58 PM
Religion has nothing to do with logic.

It's all about control.

The pope thought that allowing his followers to accept the obviousness of Darwinism might save some people from leaving his crumbling little cult.

mahabaratara
01-07-2010, 10:31 PM
Religion without Spirituality is like a body with no air.

A corpse.

If there is no esoteric practice or understanding its leads to meaningless exoteric practice and understanding.

01cobravortech
02-07-2010, 03:48 AM
So you must be God too?

No I'm not God. None of us our. We are species a creation made by God called Man.

ben87
02-07-2010, 04:21 AM
Says a man with 'hail the Norse Gods!' in his sig.

Oh the irony.

Yes! Who was the head of the norse pantheon energi? Oden,Wotan? Who is also known as.... Zeus,Amun,ABRAHAM,Mazda etc. etc.

Isnt norse paganism called "astare"- which comes from astarte-ashtart-ishtar etc.

It is all the same, differnent name same story.

archemis
02-07-2010, 10:15 AM
Bill Hicks always asked the right questions, like why he drives around in a bullet proof poop mobile. There's true faith for you.

seanx
02-07-2010, 01:52 PM
No I'm not God. None of us our. We are species a creation made by God called Man.

But you said:



Btw, Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. He's God Himself.

Jesus called us all his brother and sisters - so we must be God too?

How could we not be God if God is ominpresent?

energi
02-07-2010, 02:49 PM
Says a man with 'hail the Norse Gods!' in his sig.

Oh the irony.

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ultima1
02-07-2010, 03:06 PM
The only thing the Pope needs to wotty about is that if he can be arrested under the Ricco Act for the church protecting rapist and molestors.

afghancool
09-08-2010, 06:52 AM
The pope is not the head of the Church. Jesus Christ is. The Vatican is just an institution and there millions of Christians that aren't Catholic. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit better on Christianity. Because your just another fellow that has virtually no idea how diverse the Christian community is. Million upon millions of Christians look to the Word of God in the Bible to be led, not to the pope. I wish people like you would understand that once and for all. Seems far too many folks are caught up in the Davinci Deception and don't have a clue as to the diversity that exists within the Church.

Btw, Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. He's God Himself.

sop dreaming, or you will see in your dream that man can also eat porks shit

1964
09-08-2010, 07:02 AM
Religion has nothing to do with logic.

It's all about control.

The pope thought that allowing his followers to accept the obviousness of Darwinism might save some people from leaving his crumbling little cult.

Oh, you are so wrong. The Roman Catholic church murdered millions of people, and still managed to become the wealthiest, most powerful organization in the world. Even today, their priests rape and molest young children, and do the people go running out of there? Nope, they stay and find some way, in their minds, to defend their church. This bit about Darwinism is more for your sake. You're being reeled into the Antichrist one-world religion by Rome herself.

greenzxy
09-08-2010, 07:03 AM
Life is good

ben87
09-08-2010, 08:56 AM
where did the "christian" bibel come from?

was it written before or after the roman catholic bibel?

torchlight
09-08-2010, 09:34 AM
where did the "christian" bibel come from?

was it written before or after the roman catholic bibel?

The Old Testament was written by many authors before Jesus was born. The New Testament Gospels were written shortly after Jesus' death, followed by Acts, Romans, and Paul's letters, the last book is Revelation, which was written about 400AD.

Originally there were loads more Gospels, known today as the 'lost gospels' and the dead sea scrolls. These pre-date Catholicism.

It was the council of Nicea that debated and decided which gospels were to be considered church canon, and so the Catholic church was born.

Points for the OP to consider:
1. The name of the Christian God is YAHWEH, not Allah.
2. Demons are mentioned in the Bible, but there are no 'Jinn' as there are in your Qu'ran.
3. Jesus is not a prophet, he is the God incarnated as a human. Prophets are ordinary people chosen by God to reveal stuff to people.
4. Evolution is proven beyond any reasonable doubt, occurring in nature according to the laws of physics and chemistry, which were created by God.
5. Humans appeared extremely suddenly, and Neanderthals disappeared just as quickly, at about the same time. Logic says that this can't be by evolution.
6. Bearing in mind other ancient stories of 'those who from Heaven to Earth came'. it becomes obvious that our species are genetically created by Aliens. (hence the God in the plural in Genesis 1:26)

01cobravortech
09-08-2010, 07:30 PM
But you said:




Jesus called us all his brother and sisters - so we must be God too?

How could we not be God if God is ominpresent?

Jesus was God incarnate. Everyone human being has a fleshly body, but a spirit being inside. Everyone who accepts Jesus and receives Him as Lord and Savior also becomes a brother and sister of Christ. A joint heir. When God became a man (Jesus Christ) He set aside His person hood as God to accomplish the task of being the perfect burnt offering, the perfect atonement. God is God. We are not God.

atomup
21-08-2010, 05:57 AM
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