names spelled with CAPITAL LETTERS

[mr jones]

in the book Infinite love everything else is illusion icke spoke about names spelled with capital letters. he said a name spelled like Jones is civil law
and spelled JONES is comercial law.
can someone please explain this?

[mountain]

I do not know much detail, but in the U.S. names in caps are corporations, and not pertaining to the entity. There is a website all about this, which is very interesting. It also talks about taxes. Check it out.

http://www.natural-person.ca/

There is a link there to a free book by Mary Croft, which she explains in much more detail. Also, she recommends Infinite Truth.

[razed1]

theres a vid on U.C.C. on google video

something like occult law

intro by jordan maxwell and presentation given by another dude


basically whenever you see your name in ALL CAPITALS on bills, court notices, or any contracts

under the law, that all capital is not referring to you, but a corporation, which is under your name

cause the govt and banks, etc, under the law they dont have any jurisdiction over you, the human body,

so to get around this, theyve created a corp with which they can deal with, because they themselves are corporations, this is more underhanded deception by the govts and corps/banks


so if you see your name in all capital letters, just know whatever institution that sent you that notice, they are looking at you as a corporation, not a person


but this is really high occult law, the stuff even some high level managers and lawyers have NO idea about

lookup 'MARITIME ADMIRALTY LAW" or law of high seas vs law of the land


hope that helps

[mr jones]

thanks :) its an interesting topic, its valuable to understand

[pleasuredome]

anyone know what HM Inland Revenue & Customs isn't in capital letters on documentation? is the case that this organisation does not exist in a legal sense?

[john white]

Well, I don't often dis-agree with Icke but I spent some time looking into this, including consulting with a lawyer and a barrister, and the end result is it might be true, it might not be true, but don't expect to be able to rely on it in court, and the people on the net promoting it as true don't have solid evidence to back that up

Obviously, I'm always open to seeing some, but meanwhile, I've got this one labeled "salty pinch"

[razed1]

john it IS true

of you go into any random courthouse, only the JUDGE will have knowledge of UCC and maritima admiralty law

the lawyers and the rest, their are in the dark

the system of law, is sorrupt in its core, but to give it soem kind of credibility, theyve creaeted a whole world of phrases and terms, which lawyers are brainwashed in

its only when you reach a certain level, like judge level, that you are told the real workings of the law



dont you ever wonder how so many rich ceos and magnates, like conrad balck, rupert murdoch, are investigated for corruption and backdoor dealings, but they never see a day in jail, they just pay a large sum of $$$ and are on their merry way

they are utilising this knowledge of the occult laws


essentially the law we live under dont really apply to us, but through usage of terms like 'citizen' and their inns of court, we sovereigns submit oursleves willingly to their jurisdiction, as they see it

[john white]

its only when you reach a certain level, like judge level, that you are told the real workings of the law

Well not to put to fine a point on it, thats the rub isnt it? I'm not a judge, and feel fairly sure your not either, so when it comes to confirming something as FACT, there we have a bit of bother... which is why my position is "it might be true"

[razed1]

but it is there , check uniform commercial code

theres a book called "cracking the code"


you should really watch that vid on occult law, it will explain ALOT of things to do with the realtion of MONEY with WATER

that might sound strange, but our whole money laws and business being conducted, is based on the principle of WATER



its kinda like the IRS making ppl pay for taxes on their wages, when no such law exists,


well, the laws concerning this maritime afmiralty are based on vatican canon law, and arent going to be officially there in the rule books


but its comes down to sovereignty, and who has a right over you,



jordan maxwell brought up an excellent example, of those cowboys in the old wild west,

back in those days, two cowboys could settle their differences at high noon, with the sherif watching, and 1 guy can kill the other, and not have to worry about any legal ramifications,
WHY? cause he was a sovereign and the law of england or whatever, simply didnt apply to him

just as the candian govts laws cannot apply to the govt of nairobi or sudan

WHY

beucase both these govts are sovereign and have no right over each other,

well when the usa was first created, EVERY citizen of america was considered a sovereign, and thus the laws of british govt didnt simply apply


but through time and lack of discipline by the average joe, ppl have been tricked into giving their sovereignty away


these anomalies, one must look at,

just becuase there isnt some handy 'how to' book on how to use this for your own benefit in a court doenst mean it doenst exist


ya just gotta look harder ;)

[john white]

One does what One can ;)

[razed1]

like when david icke talked about the flags in some courthouses havinf a gold fringe around them

this is a sign of international distress, this is used in wartimes, meaning this courthouse is operating under international law

all this stuff i can bet icke got from jordan maxwell, why he wont really give jordan the recognition that another subject

but its better to go to the source of the knowledge

[mr jones]

(this letter was sent to the International Bar Association, and to date, there has been no reply.)




John Doe
Somewhere in Canada
January 10, 2005
International Bar Association
10th Floor
1 Stephen Street
London W1T 1AT
United Kingdom

Dear Sir/Madam:

Thank you very much for answering my previous letter. It is very nice to know that somebody in the International Bar Association is willing to help me with my questions.

It is comforting to know that a 'natural person' means a 'human being' in other parts of the world, besides Canada.

With that foundation, I do not know what Government-issued Identification is possible for the 'natural person'.

For example, a DRIVER is a artificial person, whose name is made from all capital letters (DOE, JOHN for example, the same as a MILITARY designation for nomme-de-guerre, because an artificial person is 'dead') and this artificial person (the DRIVER) is judged with 'strict liability' and has no rights and freedoms but must obey all laws applicable to the DRIVER. The driving laws in Canada are "guilty until proven innocent" and none of the fundamental rights and freedoms of the human being exist for the DRIVER. I believe this is true world-wide.

Secondly, a CITIZEN is a artificial person, whose name is also made from all capital letters (JOHN DOE for example, the same as any CORPORATION) and I know this to be true in Canada because my recent application for a replacement Citizenship Card was refused by the Canadian Government when I asked for the Card to be made for the 'natural person'. The Government refused to do it! Finally when I asked for a card for the 'artificial person', the Canadian Government was able to proceed and supply me with a replacement CITIZENSHIP card.

Thirdly, a RESIDENT is a artificial person (ALL-CAPITALS NAME on Government
documents, the same as a CORPORTATION), who must obey certain 'residency' requirements when benefits of Social Plans (such as Medical Care) are involved.

Fourthly, a HOMEOWNER is a artificial person (ALL-CAPITALS NAME on the land title deed), who must pay the government land-taxes every year or else the home will be taken away from human being who thinks he owns the home, in violation of the human being's fundamental rights of life, liberty and property, because he never owned the property in the first place. The human being has equitable title while the government has legal title.

Other examples of artificial persons (legal entities) are VOTER, TEACHER,
LANDLORD, TENANT, TAXPAYER, DIRECTOR, SHAREHOLDER, CARDHOLDER (for credit cards), OFFICER, EMPLOYER, EMPLOYEE, and so on.

It appears as though most of our laws have been constructed so as to apply only to these artificial persons otherwise the laws clearly violate the Universal Declaration of Human Rights regarding issues of slavery, freedom, etc. as those rights apply to the human being.

Therefore my conclusion is that there is NO GOVERNMENT-ISSUED IDENTIFICATION for the 'natural person' because a human begin does not require the Government to create Identification for him (man or woman). The ONLY ID that can be created is for the Government-created artificial persons because, having created them, the Government is able to issue ID for these legal entities (the creator can validate the existence of its creation).

If you believe man (or woman) is sovereign and created by God, then, in reality, only God can issue ID for man. However since man is free and has free will, then man does not require any ID except when interfacing with society and the Government-created rules and regulations. Therefore the Government MUST CREATE artificial persons in order to maintain a peaceful and stable society.

In fact, man (or woman) is outlawed (outside of the law) from society by definition. Therefore the 'natural person' must be created, which is a legal entity that is used to represent the human being in society, so that human beings can function in society.

What is missing from International Law, and what really needs to be done (this is where you come in), is the implementation of a world-wide system of Government-issued 'natural-person' Identification Cards that are not connected with the artificial persons cited above.

Can you begin the process of implementing these 'natural person' ID cards for me?

Thank you for you most generous help,
John Doe.

[razed1]

uh huh

their silence speaks volumes

ppl need to realize that their no official guide to fighting the corruption of the society weve grown up in

to realize that EVERY big instituion, whether religious of governmental is and has always been based on LIES ans DECEPTION,

is no small task to endure

[john white]

all this stuff i can bet icke got from jordan maxwell

Well Maxwell is certainly a name strongly associated with this info. TBH, thats another reason I give it a salty pinch...

[razed1]

no way john white

youve been on these forums for a long time now and im surprised to hear your anxiety towards j.maxwell


if you only look deeper into his work, you finally understand the nature of the beast we live under


in my honest opinion, jordan maxwell will be remembered as one of the biggest contributors to the human cause, prob long after hes gone


its a shame ppl let hearsay and rumours prevent them from looking at the INFORMATION presented rather than the presenter

[mr jones]

in a court room the average person would be laughed at for even aproaching the complexities of Civil Law versus Comercial Law.
:D

[lottie]

Maxwell relates it more to the U.S i think, Icke talk about it and i assumed he meant in the UK but ive since learnt that apparently the land of the Earth(every piece of land) operates with Maritime Admiralty Law.

So it may well be true for the UK too,
It all relates to the fact that you came down your mothers 'birth canal' born out of her waters, Maxwell compares it to a Boat, i e the boat comes down the canal into the dock where it is 'ok'd that you can step foot on land....

At the point of being issued a birth certificate which creates a straw-man version of you by using capital letters you can be charged by the law (police etc) who operate on Maritime Law not Civil.......

Think thats what its about anyway....funny you start this thread i was only talking about this about 2hrs ago to a friend!:eek: syncro!:D

I keep meaning to look further into this....

[razed1]

i've heard from ppl who do bring this stuff up in court, that EVERYONE except for the judge bursts out laughing,

theyve never even heard of this

but the judge knows, and hell try and intimidate you, but you gotta stand your ground, until the judge realizes, this case aint goin nowhere and hell simply through out the case and move on the the next sucker

its all the same for the judge, he rules for the bank, someone gonna pay, doenst matter to him who does

[razed1]

oh yes lottie

the law of money aka law of the high seas or water

supercedes all other laws that whatver country has for their our land

but money is the universal and has a separete level of laws that teh WHOLE world must follow

[john white]

no way john white

youve been on these forums for a long time now and im surprised to hear your anxiety towards j.maxwell

It's not anxiety... I'm cool with Maxwell: heck I'm cool with everyone "researcher" wise *apart from "no Planers"*... I just know from experiance that his accuracy is not what it could be

I mean, a lot of his stuff is cool, but it doesnt always stretch as far as he wants it to go... his astro-theology angle for example. Astro-theology is undoubtably true, but it doesnt mean it quite provides the answers Maxwell has chosen to see in it. I could say the same for Icke of course... but then I am a lot more compassionate towards religion than Icke is

Anyway, whole other topic! (and I'm working towards a film covering this area btw)

[razed1]

elaborate further john...

what inconsistencies have you found with his work?

[mr jones]

so all the land of earth is Maritime law?

[john white]

elaborate further john...

what inconsistencies have you found with his work?

Oh heck. Look I hope you don't mind, but i'd rather back out of this than get into it now: for one thing becuase I don't have a problem with Maxwell simply becuase I don't fully agree with him. Suffice it to say I've developed a POV where Astro theology ends up supporting Christianity, not dis-proving it, and all will be revealed in time, and then people will either agree or dis-agree with me! Thats the way it goes

[razed1]

hey no prob man, anytime you feel like it we can discuss j.maxwell

because i have not found anything from maxwell that contradicts what ive found out in my research about all this 'STUFF'

in fact, its probably because of maxwell and tsarions work that i finally am starting to 'get it'

i say starting becuase like j.maxwell, the more you know, th emore you find out, the more you realize how much MORE there is to know

[mr jones]

who is Maxwell anyway?

[razed1]

go on video.google.com and youtube.com

and look up the name "jordan maxwell"

and enjoy your trip down the rabbit hole

(btw, one of his best talks is one called 'inner world of the occult')

cheers :D

[lottie]

so all the land of earth is Maritime law?

watch this mr jones....:D

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Icke says something about the US side of things in Tales From The Timeloop, i might extract a bit if i can....

:)

[razed1]

the angle from where hes comin ususally goes over ppls heads in his written work, but his presentations, you will understand what hes trying to say

there a talk from 1993, (simply called "slide presenation") where hes talkin about symbolism, and pyramids and illuminati , back in '93!! so his recognition is overdue in this conspiracy field

[razed1]

Suffice it to say I've developed a POV where Astro theology ends up supporting Christianity, not dis-proving it, and all will be revealed in time, and then people will either agree or dis-agree with me! Thats the way it goes

oh of course, maxwell isnt saying christianity is false himslef, he simply relaying the real NATURE of chrisitianity

what ppl beleive nowadays, of jesus being an actual man, and attributing the virgin birth, death/ressurection story to an actual human, this is where ppl have lost the plot and researchers like maxwell are saying that this is what is false about christianity as well as all the other religions

if youre thinkng that jesus is gonna come back and save you, as the canon beleif of x-tianity nowaydays, well this is simply not true and is part of the illuminati brainwashing


however, if you realize the allegory behind the SUN of god and its relationship with you and every other living 'being' on our earth, well then you will truely understand and appreciate the teachings of christianity


religion is a beautiful thing, once you see the real allegory and symbolism behind it

but if you take at face value, you will never know the truth

[john white]

if youre thinkng that jesus is gonna come back and save you, as the canon beleif of x-tianity nowaydays, well this is simply not true and is part of the illuminati brainwashing


LOL! Not to much risk of that... unless of course we are talking about the Christ within...

[razed1]

LOL! Not to much risk of that... unless of course we are talking about the Christ within...

right, you know that, but the 98%+ of average christians arent looking at it from that POV

they expect an actual person to fly from the clouds holding a flaming sword of azure-wrath, ready to defeat the enemies of liGht

so now you can understand why some researchers, call chrisitianity false, or wrong, theyre talking baout the mainstream teachings, why should they bother trying to to wake up those that have already awoken, theyr tryiong to wake up the sheep

[mr jones]

i'm watching
Jordan Maxwell - Queen of England Exposed :)

[razed1]

jones i can listen to maxwell talk for hours ;)

[lottie]

jones i can listen to maxwell talk for hours ;)


Nah its the other way round man....Jones just rants and gets so aggressive it becomes comical, i can imagine him at home when his wife asks what he wants for tea.....:eek:*through a mega-phone shouts with spit spraying all over the kitchen pointing his finger at his wife*........ "I WANT BEANS-ON-TOAST WOMAN"!!!!!! LOL!:D

Maxwell is far calmer and easier on the ear....although i suppose he could speed it up a little!!!:D

[razed1]

lol sorry i mustve worded my comment , i was repsoned to mr_jones, but yea it definately easier on my ears to listen to maxwell rather than alex jones LOL
:D

[mr jones]

yeah, alex jones hes too loud.

[lottie]

lol sorry i mustve worded my comment , i was repsoned to mr_jones, but yea it definately easier on my ears to listen to maxwell rather than alex jones LOL
:D

OHHHHH!!!! LMAO!!! :D

I get it now!! :o:D

t'is true though!!! LOL!!!

[mr jones]

Nah its the other way round man....Jones just rants and gets so aggressive it becomes comical, i can imagine him at home when his wife asks what he wants for tea.....:eek:*through a mega-phone shouts with spit spraying all over the kitchen pointing his finger at his wife*........ "I WANT BEANS-ON-TOAST WOMAN"!!!!!! LOL!:D

Maxwell is far calmer and easier on the ear....although i suppose he could speed it up a little!!!:D

:D

[gold]

i'm watching
Jordan Maxwell - Queen of England Exposed :)

Hi mr jones,
sorry I haven't read all the posts here, Where can I watch this? It sounds good;:)

[lilly555]

in the book Infinite love everything else is illusion icke spoke about names spelled with capital letters. he said a name spelled like Jones is civil law
and spelled JONES is comercial law.
can someone please explain this?


eeyyy thats my last name oohhh!!!!

[whitenight639]

leaving the caps thing for a min,

A negative number + a negative number = a positive number? my maths is bad but i think im right in saying -2 + -2 = 0 ?

if so im going to send a minus figured cheque to my bank because im overdrawn and see what happens.

worst case, iv just demenstrated how rubbish my maths and nievity is i get charged for the cheque,

best case, i never have to pay anymore stupid overdraft charges again!

:D

[lilly555]

leaving the caps thing for a min,

A negative number + a negative number = a positive number? my maths is bad but i think im right in saying -2 + -2 = 0 ?

if so im going to send a minus figured cheque to my bank because im overdrawn and see what happens.

worst case, iv just demenstrated how rubbish my maths and nievity is i get charged for the cheque,

best case, i never have to pay anymore stupid overdraft charges again!

:D

naw cuz -3 multiplied by -3 is postiv..-3 + -3 is -6:cool:

[spiritualone]

Not quite -2 - -2 = 0. '--' = -, '-+' = +, '+-' = +

[whitenight639]

Not quite -2 - -2 = 0. '--' = -, '-+' = +, '+-' = +

:confused: its too early in the morning for maths.

[pollock]

:confused: its too early in the morning for maths.

Its always too early in the morning for maths:D!

F

[Anders Lindman]

Your name in CAPITAL LETTERS is only the first tag used by STALKING governments. Next in line is the ID card, and then after that, be prepared to be veri, veri chipped. :mad:

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