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masonic3
22-02-2007, 11:58 AM
Hello every one I am Chris or (masonic3).
I live in Plymouth England, I work for a Factory called "Fine Tubes"
If you want to have a look www.finetubes.blogspot.com:o
I made this site as a joke!! :( :confused: :) :D
My interests are:
Freemasonry (joining in April had everything but my initiation )
Web building
911 info
UFO’s
Government cover ups
Number stations
Please feel free to ask me any questions about anything, even freemasonry.
Thank you for your time :eek: :rolleyes:
lilloz
22-02-2007, 11:59 AM
hello Chris, welcome to the forum :D
limelady
22-02-2007, 12:02 PM
Hello every one I am Chris or (masonic3).
I live in Plymouth England, I work for a Factory called "Fine Tubes"
If you want to have a look www.finetubes.blogspot.com:o
I made this site as a joke!! :( :confused: :) :D
My interests are:
Freemasonry (joining in April had everything but my initiation )
Web building
911 info
UFO’s
Government cover ups
Number stations
Please feel free to ask me any questions about anything, even freemasonry.
Thank you for your time :eek: :rolleyes:
Hi Chris and welcome!
I'd like to know why you want to become a Freemason?
Lime
lookfar
22-02-2007, 12:02 PM
Hi Chris and welcome.
Unfortunately I cannot access your site from here.
As you've asked for questions, the major one is - why Freemansonry??? and have you read David Icke's books?
masonic3
22-02-2007, 12:26 PM
Sorry about the site thing,:p its full of bad spelling anyway as I have lost the password to the site, so I can't correct it!! Lol!
Funny enough on my interview to become a freemason, one of the questions they ask me was:
“Why do you want to become a freemason?”
I found this hard to answer as I really didn’t know why, so I didn’t say anything for about two seconds which felt like a life time with 10 people looking through you.
My reply:
“I don’t really know what freemasonry is about but I know Winston(my friend already in) enjoys it, I also want to make it a hobby maybe and visit different Lodges around the country, I understand you do some Rituals, so I would like to get involved in learning stuff for them if I can”
But you must not read in to this interview the wrong way as it was just away of putting names to faces and to see what I was like, you can’t really fail this interview as any one can become a freemason.
Please understand I am not here to argue about freemasonry so please give me a chance.
losangelesgraffiti
22-02-2007, 12:33 PM
i havent been here long but your not the only mason i noticed here. im not a masion tho.
thirdwave
22-02-2007, 12:38 PM
Sorry about the site thing,:p its full of bad spelling anyway as I have lost the password to the site, so I can't correct it!! Lol!
Funny enough on my interview to become a freemason, one of the questions they ask me was:
“Why do you want to become a freemason?”
I found this hard to answer as I really didn’t know why, so I didn’t say anything for about two seconds which felt like a life time with 10 people looking through you.
My reply:
“I don’t really know what freemasonry is about but I know Winston(my friend already in) enjoys it, I also want to make it a hobby maybe and visit different Lodges around the country, I understand you do some Rituals, so I would like to get involved in learning stuff for them if I can”
But you must not read in to this interview the wrong way as it was just away of putting names to faces and to see what I was like, you can’t really fail this interview as any one can become a freemason.
Please understand I am not here to argue about freemasonry so please give me a chance.
Hi there
I think Freemasonry has many levels and the higher up you go the more secret it is and appears to have the most powerful people involved...
have you heard of what has been said about the high degree Freemasons by many whistle blowers who have revealed the long term agenda they have?
if so do you support it or think its not true?
masonic3
22-02-2007, 12:59 PM
:o Hi there
I think Freemasonry has many levels and the higher up you go the more secret it is and appears to have the most powerful people involved...
have you heard of what has been said about the high degree Freemasons by many whistle blowers who have revealed the long term agenda they have?
if so do you support it or think its not true?
Sorry but I think its rubbish, sorry…
There are some who talk about the *33 Degrees but I think its rubbish (*look on google)
In Craft which every mason joins there are only three degrees.
After that they are all on the same level:
Mark
Chapter
Many more
Sounds like your whistle blower has not told the truth? Maybe??
losangelesgraffiti
22-02-2007, 01:04 PM
could the three degrees cound like 10 , then 20 , the 33? 10+10+13?
masonic3
22-02-2007, 01:08 PM
could the three degrees cound like 10 , then 20 , the 33? 10+10+13?
No sorry, as in 33 diffrent levels like a big family tree:p
limelady
22-02-2007, 01:09 PM
:o
Sorry but I think its rubbish, sorry…
There are some who talk about the *33 Degrees but I think its rubbish (*look on google)
In Craft which every mason joins there are only three degrees.
After that they are all on the same level:
Mark
Chapter
Many more
Sounds like your whistle blower has not told the truth? Maybe??
Those in the lower 3 degress of freemasonry are not privvy to what goes on in the higher levels, therefore they don't believe there are any higher levels. If you don't have the right connections or the right bloodline you will NEVER get past the first 3 degress. But if you like dressing up and all the other ritual stuff they do, there's no harm in it. The first 3 degress are basically just like any other service club like Lions, Rotary etc.
masonic3
22-02-2007, 01:22 PM
Those in the lower 3 degress of freemasonry are not privvy to what goes on in the higher levels, therefore they don't believe there are any higher levels. If you don't have the right connections or the right bloodline you will NEVER get past the first 3 degress. But if you like dressing up and all the other ritual stuff they do, there's no harm in it. The first 3 degress are basically just like any other service club like Lions, Rotary etc.
Thankyou for your reply.....
Everyone who joins will end up on the 3rd Degree which that means now you are a "Master Mason", you then can join "Chapter" or "Mark" which are a fourth Degree!? on the same level, no higher levels
Perhaps your right but all I know is that every mason gives the same hand shake so it must be had for them to talk to each other?!
Also where do they meet?
Every lodge in England has to look after its self so its not funded by a big pot of money, it would be hard to fund this group.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
22-02-2007, 01:28 PM
Thankyou for your reply.....
Everyone who joins will end up on the 3rd Degree which that means now you are a "Master Mason", you then can join "Chapter" or "Mark" which are a fourth Degree!? on the same level, no higher levels
Perhaps your right but all I know is that every mason gives the same hand shake so it must be had for them to talk to each other?!
Also where do they meet?
Every lodge in England has to look after its self so its not funded by a big pot of money, it would be hard to fund this group.
I don't know who you are, but you bother me...
They don't need funding because they have something that niether you or I have. And that's the world at their finger tips. Any thing they want, they get. Why? Because of their family and bloodline. And you and I will never be part of that.
They don't need the funding. They have everyone of their ten bloodstained fingers in just about ever pocket of the world.
truthsupplier
22-02-2007, 01:32 PM
Having a grasp is not an insult. Limelady has this...
A naive attitude is welcome in the Bridal Chamber and the "training camps" of the lower 30 degrees of Freemasonry. This "gentleman" was not indoctrinated in the ranks of "adjoining Secret Societies" and I doubt there is time enough left for his even knowing of higher Levels before the "Legions of Lackeys" are called to perform their appointed roles as "Ministers of Freemasonry"... until then they are a "pipe and whistle club" responsible for the "image" of Freemasonry.
He is not to be held responsible for his blinders nor the innocence required for a "good indoctrination"... at his young age, he was introduced to a "mill" where the correct representation is instilled, refined and exhibited.
That "apron" is for cooking a "stew" of humanity... If you have the intent to join, does it not deserve for you to be aware of the jaws of the Beast? Do your flipping homework kid... there is still time.
masonic3
22-02-2007, 01:43 PM
I don't know who you are, but you bother me...
They don't need funding because they have something that niether you or I have. And that's the world at their finger tips. Any thing they want, they get. Why? Because of their family and bloodline. And you and I will never be part of that.
They don't need the funding. They have everyone of their ten bloodstained fingers in just about ever pocket of the world.
As I said before I think you should look up "Karl Popper" about "Falsifiability"
lookfar
22-02-2007, 01:44 PM
Hi Chris
Can I also ask again as you didn't reply:) have you read any of David Icke's stuff and what's your opinion of it all?
masonic3
22-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Having a grasp is not an insult. Limelady has this...
A naive attitude is welcome in the Bridal Chamber and the "training camps" of the lower 30 degrees of Freemasonry. This "gentleman" was not indoctrinated in the ranks of "adjoining Secret Societies" and I doubt there is time enough left for his even knowing of higher Levels before the "Legions of Lackeys" are called to perform their appointed roles as "Ministers of Freemasonry"... until then they are a "pipe and whistle club" responsible for the "image" of Freemasonry.
He is not to be held responsible for his blinders nor the innocence required for a "good indoctrination"... at his young age, he was introduced to a "mill" where the correct representation is instilled, refined and exhibited.
That "apron" is for cooking a "stew" of humanity... If you have the intent to join, does it not deserve for you to be aware of the jaws of the Beast? Do your flipping homework kid... there is still time.
Feemasonry in the USA is a shambles and as a Freemason under the UGLE (united grand lodge of England)I would not be allowed to visit alot of lodges in there.
Maybe thats whats going on over there? you maybe right??!
masonic3
22-02-2007, 01:51 PM
Hi Chris
Can I also ask again as you didn't reply:) have you read any of David Icke's stuff and what's your opinion of it all?
I think alot of it is really good and if he makes it up(where from?)
I want to go and see him live one day?
Me and a couple of Mason friends want to go any Idea if he is going to be in Plymouth?
jimijams
22-02-2007, 01:58 PM
:o
Sorry but I think its rubbish, sorry…
There are some who talk about the *33 Degrees but I think its rubbish (*look on google)
In Craft which every mason joins there are only three degrees.
After that they are all on the same level:
Mark
Chapter
Many more
Sounds like your whistle blower has not told the truth? Maybe??
With all due respect if you are only aware of 3 degrees of freemasonry then it might be worthwhile having a read of Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma. http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html
lookfar
22-02-2007, 02:00 PM
I think alot of it is really good and if he makes it up(where from?)
I want to go and see him live one day?
Me and a couple of Mason friends want to go any Idea if he is going to be in Plymouth?
Thank you for answering:) I find it interesting that you think that and yet still want to be a Mason? Not that I've anything against them, I've known a few in my time, but don't think they were ever interested in David Icke or other truthseekers, or certainly didn't mention it if they were!!
What do you think about the info he exposes on rituals? As you expressed an interest in them, I'm just wondering for what reason you would like to take part in them???
As for the talks, I asked this question recently and was told that unfortunately none were planned for the near future. Which is a big shame :(
masonic3
22-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Thank you for answering:) I find it interesting that you think that and yet still want to be a Mason? Not that I've anything against them, I've known a few in my time, but don't think they were ever interested in David Icke or other truthseekers, or certainly didn't mention it if they were!!
What do you think about the info he exposes on rituals? As you expressed an interest in them, I'm just wondering for what reason you would like to take part in them???
As for the talks, I asked this question recently and was told that unfortunately none were planned for the near future. Which is a big shame :(
Ok I need to stress that, I try to not read up on rituals bits because I will not get the full impact on the night.
Every Lodge uses diffrent rituals but are all sort of the same, I don't know what david Icke has said (and don't want to know yet) but after I have done them I will talk it over withyou if you want?(remebering my obligation)
lookfar
22-02-2007, 02:53 PM
Ok I need to stress that, I try to not read up on rituals bits because I will not get the full impact on the night.
Every Lodge uses diffrent rituals but are all sort of the same, I don't know what david Icke has said (and don't want to know yet) but after I have done them I will talk it over withyou if you want?(remebering my obligation)
I'm not asking you to break any obligation by disclosing info. But what I was referring to & didn't make clear, is regarding the apparent darker satanic side of certain rituals? I assumed by your interest in DI etc that you'd be aware of some of this? This obviously isn't for the lower ranks of freemasonry, but was interested in your opinion and whether or not you believed it?
Here's a link I found in the DI archive that I thought was interesting, perhaps you should read it...
http://www.zephnet.com/?select=squib&league=composite&post_id=73651&docket=1&linkoff=1
thirdwave
22-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Ok I need to stress that, I try to not read up on rituals bits because I will not get the full impact on the night.
Every Lodge uses diffrent rituals but are all sort of the same, I don't know what david Icke has said (and don't want to know yet) but after I have done them I will talk it over withyou if you want?(remebering my obligation)
I have to be honest with you, there is no way in hell you would catch me joining the Freemasons...
out of interest why are you so certain that there are only 3 levels?
and if so, please explain what a "Scottish Rite 33deg Freemason" is?.
with a group who are obviously so into keeping secrets, are you not open to the idea that there are secrets that you do not know?
midwich cuckoo
22-02-2007, 03:47 PM
I personally don't believe you Masonic3. But welcome to the forum anyway.:)
truthseeker1980
22-02-2007, 03:47 PM
I don't want to put you off, but maybe you should read David's books, watch his DVD's and not just believe the 33degree stuff from google. After all the global conglomerates advertise through google so have a big part on what is found on the engine.
I have been to many dinner and dances, I was interested in becoming a mason a few years back, was even invited like yourself to join, but once i found out what they actually represent and stand for i changed my mind.
My ex girlfriends dad, is a mason and knows less than what i do about the traditions and purpose of freemansonry.
My grandfather was a Dowty Knight of Limehouse, unfortunatley he is no longer with us and I only found this out once he had died.
Read as much as you can and find out who and why they operate before getting involved. You will find out more about them not belonging than you will belonging, as only the highest degree's actually know the purpose and goals of freemansonry.
You will just do strange rituals, wear wierd aprons, raise money for charity and maybe further yourself within your career, if that's what floats your boat then go for it.
roadscholar
22-02-2007, 04:06 PM
Hello every one I am Chris or (masonic3).
I live in Plymouth England, I work for a Factory called "Fine Tubes"
If you want to have a look www.finetubes.blogspot.com:o
You sound really confused. Or are you a Darksider playing a stupid game? Why do we have to welcome you? You ought to do your homework before you start spouting off on a subject. You join the Freemasons because your friend likes being a member? David Icke writes how organizations built on a pyramid model have the sheeple on the bottom. Did you come here to prove him right? Excuse me, but I really don't get it.
Btw, that blogspot is unavailable.
lilloz
22-02-2007, 04:38 PM
I personally don't believe you Masonic3. But welcome to the forum anyway.:)
Yup, i also get that vibe...
llogun
22-02-2007, 07:27 PM
yes i agree he might be a mason troll
truthsupplier
22-02-2007, 09:26 PM
Not even a "successful Troll" either... Wants to play a game and doesn`t know the rules. Give him rope... he will take care of the disposal himself. When you can`t supply a cornerstone, not much gets built. Mason, huh? Herd mentality... foremost Character Trait.
How `bout this as food for thought:
Was Christ a carpenter or a builder?
The obtainable resources for construction did not include wood... rather Stone and a form of "stucco" was the accepted materials as that is what was available. If he then indeed constructed using the available materials, would he not be a Mason of sorts?
Just trivial rhetoric... we old farts get to engineer our flatulence, and history has always been and will always be written by the winners. Don`t know where I fold into that other than to exclaim, I personally have never written any history. What I`ve read is enough...
jinjo5
22-02-2007, 09:41 PM
I personally don't believe you Masonic3. But welcome to the forum anyway.:)
I think masonic3 is having a laugh.I can see him now sniggering behind his hand.He just dosent sound right.:p
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:08 AM
I have to be honest with you, there is no way in hell you would catch me joining the Freemasons...
out of interest why are you so certain that there are only 3 levels?
and if so, please explain what a "Scottish Rite 33deg Freemason" is?.
with a group who are obviously so into keeping secrets, are you not open to the idea that there are secrets that you do not know?
Of course there will be secrets I don't know and secrets I don't know now...
Scottish Rite 33deg? mm?
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:11 AM
I'm not asking you to break any obligation by disclosing info. But what I was referring to & didn't make clear, is regarding the apparent darker satanic side of certain rituals? I assumed by your interest in DI etc that you'd be aware of some of this? This obviously isn't for the lower ranks of freemasonry, but was interested in your opinion and whether or not you believed it?
Here's a link I found in the DI archive that I thought was interesting, perhaps you should read it...
http://www.zephnet.com/?select=squib&league=composite&post_id=73651&docket=1&linkoff=1
"Apparent darker satanic side of certain rituals”? Freemasonry dose not allow its members to talk about “Religion and politics in Lodge so I don’t think there is any satanic sides.
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:12 AM
I personally don't believe you Masonic3. But welcome to the forum anyway.:)
Why what could I gain? but thankyou for your welcome..
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:15 AM
I don't want to put you off, but maybe you should read David's books, watch his DVD's and not just believe the 33degree stuff from google. After all the global conglomerates advertise through google so have a big part on what is found on the engine.
I have been to many dinner and dances, I was interested in becoming a mason a few years back, was even invited like yourself to join, but once i found out what they actually represent and stand for i changed my mind.
My ex girlfriends dad, is a mason and knows less than what i do about the traditions and purpose of freemansonry.
My grandfather was a Dowty Knight of Limehouse, unfortunatley he is no longer with us and I only found this out once he had died.
Read as much as you can and find out who and why they operate before getting involved. You will find out more about them not belonging than you will belonging, as only the highest degree's actually know the purpose and goals of freemansonry.
You will just do strange rituals, wear wierd aprons, raise money for charity and maybe further yourself within your career, if that's what floats your boat then go for it.
Sorry but the sentence I high lighted is wrong if you’re telling the truth.
If you are telling the truth. What is the reason for this?
But thank you for replying
midwich cuckoo
23-02-2007, 12:19 AM
Why what could I gain? but thankyou for your welcome..
Only you would know the answer to that.
There's been a few members(or maybe just 1 under different names) here taking the piss in various ways. This just looks to me to be a new tactic to not get banned so quickly.
If I'm wrong then I appologise. :)
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:20 AM
You sound really confused. Or are you a Darksider playing a stupid game? Why do we have to welcome you? You ought to do your homework before you start spouting off on a subject. You join the Freemasons because your friend likes being a member? David Icke writes how organizations built on a pyramid model have the sheeple on the bottom. Did you come here to prove him right? Excuse me, but I really don't get it.
Btw, that blogspot is unavailable.
I like David Icke's work but that was abit over the top.
I am interested in freemasonry and other things but I don’t mind answering your question about freemasonry, but nor am I here to defend it, or explain why we rule the world in secret oop’s I mean have secrets
I like David Icke's work but that was abit over the top.
I am interested in freemasonry and other things but I don’t mind answering your question about freemasonry, but nor am I here to defend it, or explain why we rule the world in secret oop’s I mean have secrets
A person in such a low degree wouldn't be able to answer many questions ,or be privvy to any secrets. Welcome to the forum nonetheless. I hope you find it informative.
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:25 AM
Not even a "successful Troll" either... Wants to play a game and doesn`t know the rules. Give him rope... he will take care of the disposal himself. When you can`t supply a cornerstone, not much gets built. Mason, huh? Herd mentality... foremost Character Trait.
How `bout this as food for thought:
Was Christ a carpenter or a builder?
The obtainable resources for construction did not include wood... rather Stone and a form of "stucco" was the accepted materials as that is what was available. If he then indeed constructed using the available materials, would he not be a Mason of sorts?
Just trivial rhetoric... we old farts get to engineer our flatulence, and history has always been and will always be written by the winners. Don`t know where I fold into that other than to exclaim, I personally have never written any history. What I`ve read is enough...
Freemasonry is based on Stonemasons morals and goes back in text to 1600s
neondestiny
23-02-2007, 12:25 AM
Was Christ a carpenter or a builder?
Truthseeker I have also heard that Jesus was a "stone-mason"
I will say hi mason3 not welcome, just in case you are a vampire waiting for an invite pmsl.
Yesterday on the talk time one of the "pollies" was talking about freemasons I think he was one of them, I did not get the chance to catch what he was talking about.
The whole show gave me a "bad taste" in my mouth though.
I have heard that too limelady that the lower levels are just like rotary basically a gentlemans club that does charity work.
Would love to hear what these rituals involve mason, although doubt you will be able to tell us anything we already don't know.
tinmenace
23-02-2007, 12:29 AM
My interests are:
Freemasonry (joining in April had everything but my initiation )
Please feel free to ask me any questions about anything, even freemasonry.
Well, as a wannabe Freemason, you hardly know anything about it. I'm sure that the lower ranking Freemasons are very nice people that do good things for their communities, but those are not the ones I'm interested in. It's the ones higher up, the 33rd degree Freemasons that interest me.
But, since you offered, let me ask you this....How would you describe Freemasonry? :)
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:30 AM
A person in such a low degree wouldn't be able to answer many questions ,or be privvy to any secrets. Welcome to the forum nonetheless. I hope you find it informative.
Thank you for your post. I am not here to make trouble and I like to try and aswer questions as best I can, to help people understand what I see freemasory is
tinmenace
23-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Well, go on then....tell us how you see it.
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Well, as a wannabe Freemason, you hardly know anything about it. I'm sure that the lower ranking Freemasons are very nice people that do good things for their communities, but those are not the ones I'm interested in. It's the ones higher up, the 33rd degree Freemasons that interest me.
But, since you offered, let me ask you this....How would you describe Freemasonry? :)
I want to meet new people and enjoy it, so your right about the men’s club
Freemasonry is:
A peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols
I like David Icke's work but that was abit over the top.
I am interested in freemasonry and other things but I don’t mind answering your question about freemasonry, but nor am I here to defend it, or explain why we rule the world in secret oop’s I mean have secrets
ROFLMO! Come on, people! Don't even buy into this.
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:56 AM
ROFLMO! Come on, people! Don't even buy into this.
Yes sorry it was a lame joke:rolleyes:
tinmenace
23-02-2007, 03:08 AM
Freemasonry is:
A peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols
Ok, that's a standard issue answer. I want YOUR thoughts on it. Try think it up by yourself. Please don't look to anything or anyone else to give you the answer. I want to know how YOU feel about it, and what it MEANS to you.
misscpb
23-02-2007, 03:23 AM
Hello every one I am Chris or (masonic3).
I live in Plymouth England, I work for a Factory called "Fine Tubes"
If you want to have a look www.finetubes.blogspot.com:o
I made this site as a joke!! :( :confused: :) :D
My interests are:
Freemasonry (joining in April had everything but my initiation )
Web building
911 info
UFO’s
Government cover ups
Number stations
Please feel free to ask me any questions about anything, even freemasonry.
Thank you for your time :eek: :rolleyes:
Hi
Welcome, its nice to meet you here. I would like to ask you how you became interested in UFO's and whether you have had any contact with other beings or seen anything.
Thanks
eternal_spirit
23-02-2007, 03:42 AM
Fly in the ointment masonic3. Religion and the masons are all connected, you know like the vatican and the mafia, the church and the masons need a cover which is the lower levels do charitable stuff, while those at the top make rules laws and wars and mind control and manipulate peole in so many ways. I'll be the first to say it. Don't join the masons give me the creeps BIG time, your not welcome by me.
neondestiny
23-02-2007, 04:09 AM
Shhh! eternal1 methinks the mason is still "sleeping" iykwim lol better not wake him from his slumber otherwise he won't join the freemason "front" line ;)
heretic
23-02-2007, 04:10 AM
April 1st isn't for a couple of months yet is it? :D :D :D :D :D
Masonic3 you are a textbook troll, Freemasons have their own forums, why come on here? I don't go on fundamentalist Christian forums telling them how they believe in a lie. :confused:
heretic
23-02-2007, 04:20 AM
And another thing, why start a thread with "please welcome me" are you desperate for some kind of group acceptance? Is that why you want to join Freemasonry? If it makes any difference I know quite a few Masons including high degree ones. Little peon level initiates like you serve no purpose to answer questions ,so grow the hell up, now I must ask, did daddy climb the ladder a little for you to get in or were you petitioned? And, do you realize that some lodges are having some trouble getting new members? Do us a favour and run along now.
Also: A lot of your "Brotherhood" will not appreciate the fact you come on internet forums to answer questions for the public do you know that? FACT! Off you go then.
eternal_spirit
23-02-2007, 04:37 AM
Shhh! eternal1 methinks the mason is still "sleeping" iykwim lol better not wake him from his slumber otherwise he won't join the freemason "front" line ;)
LOl us none masons prob know more about the masons than most in the lower levels :rolleyes:
eternal_spirit
23-02-2007, 04:42 AM
Besides the point is this you say "You don't believe that the higher levels of freemasonary even exist in a prevoius post and the dark rituals etc" What would David icke and other researchers have to gain by lying???????? masonic3?
eternal_spirit
23-02-2007, 04:43 AM
Maybe I should answer the question in your absence mason3 NOTHING!"
Freemasonry is based on Stonemasons morals and goes back in text to 1600s
m3, dude, wakeup!
Is that in the brochure they give the rush freshmen?
It goes back a helluva lot farther than that, my friend, farther back than the temple of Solomon.
My uncle was a Shriner; you know, those guys in the red fezzes (fezii? what's the plural of fez?)? He luuuuuved to ride around in his little miniature car with his buddies.
Unless you've got the breeding, about the only cool secret you're likely to learn is where to get one of those little cars at a good price.
The only problem I see with being a mason is that I would be contributing to a secret system of influence which, at least in my view, only helps those in that system. Yes, the Shriners build hospitals, but given the way people are poisoned and poison themselves, it's just part of an endless cycle of predation.
I was in Rotary from 1995 to 2000. It was ok; I got to network and meet some other business people in my small town of 15,000.
One day, I was sitting at a lodge lunch with some other rotary guy about my age. Apropos of nothing and making small talk, I asked him why he joined.
I'll never forget what he said, and I quit the organization about 2 months later. I completely lost my appetite for it.
He said, "In a small town, if you want to make it in business, you go to church every sunday and join rotary."
And he said it with this smirk on his face that almost made me throw my plate of overcooked chicken in his face. :cool:
So, that, dude, is what you've got in store for yourself. I don't know how old you are, but probably just out of college. So mulitply 50 weeks x 40 years, and that's how long you're going to be spending with these schmucks.
If it was me, I'd rather spend a Friday lunch hour flying a kite.
eternal_spirit
23-02-2007, 05:27 AM
<<<<<<<<< masonic 3 :o
And another thing, why start a thread with "please welcome me" are you desperate for some kind of group acceptance? Is that why you want to join Freemasonry? If it makes any difference I know quite a few Masons including high degree ones. Little peon level initiates like you serve no purpose to answer questions ,so grow the hell up, now I must ask, did daddy climb the ladder a little for you to get in or were you petitioned? And, do you realize that some lodges are having some trouble getting new members? Do us a favour and run along now.
Also: A lot of your "Brotherhood" will not appreciate the fact you come on internet forums to answer questions for the public do you know that? FACT! Off you go then.
SNAP! Heretic, you said in one paragraph what it took me half a page! :D
Give him a break; he's young, dumb and full o' cum.
garth
23-02-2007, 07:46 AM
My f***ing god!
I just read some of this masonic3 guys posts.
Is he for real?
He can't be can he? Please tell me it isn't so! :eek:
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:23 PM
April 1st isn't for a couple of months yet is it? :D :D :D :D :D
Masonic3 you are a textbook troll, Freemasons have their own forums, why come on here? I don't go on fundamentalist Christian forums telling them how they believe in a lie. :confused:
You all ask me about freemasonry........And have your own Ideas that must be true, nothing else can be, can it?!
h1s_l0rdsh1p
23-02-2007, 12:32 PM
Alright. As we can see so far, Masonic3 is a troll. Or just retarded. Not in the sense of mentally handicapped, but rather in the sense of; he came to a site that is against freemasonry to promote freemasonry.
Only two things left to do.
1: Contact the admins or mods to get him out off of this site, and hopefully do an IP ban
2: Please direct him to another site that will be open to his comments.
Now, if he is genuine(which nobody seems to believe) then we should be more clear and not just make random states only someone in the same state of mind as you would make.
So, what do you all think?
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:32 PM
And another thing, why start a thread with "please welcome me" are you desperate for some kind of group acceptance? Is that why you want to join Freemasonry? If it makes any difference I know quite a few Masons including high degree ones. Little peon level initiates like you serve no purpose to answer questions ,so grow the hell up, now I must ask, did daddy climb the ladder a little for you to get in or were you petitioned? And, do you realize that some lodges are having some trouble getting new members? Do us a favour and run along now.
Also: A lot of your "Brotherhood" will not appreciate the fact you come on internet forums to answer questions for the public do you know that? FACT! Off you go then.
That is wrong, in fact alot of what you said is wrong.
Alot of people on here read the wrong things, its ok I use to read the same things its not till you join to you start to find out the right things(but I understand whats right),
90% of stuff that you read on the internet is wrong, 99% of So called
freemasons from USA are not recognised by UGLE so are not a true freemason
in my eyes.
High Degree Fremmasons: this is wrong, if you are not liying you mean
What.......................? over to you..............
Freemasonry is open to talk about it as its not a secret society, its a society with some secrets who do alot for charity.......Like when 911 happen the next day UGLE sent over a million pounds to help so perhaps the level I am on (as you all say) is not that bad
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:39 PM
Hi
Welcome, its nice to meet you here. I would like to ask you how you became interested in UFO's and whether you have had any contact with other beings or seen anything.
Thanks
Thanks for your post and the change of subject:
I live near Dartmoor so I have seen alot of strange things but I have yet to see a UFO up there, years ago a UFO was filmed over the Army base near the moor there on the Security camara.
I have seen a silver shape shooting along but I was driving so I couldn't get a good look at it...
tonto o_reilly
23-02-2007, 12:41 PM
Hello masonic3
You say a lot of people on this forum read the 'wrong' things?
I am sure that the members on this forum can make their own minds up about that, don't you?
Welcome to the forum
TO
h1s_l0rdsh1p
23-02-2007, 12:41 PM
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That is wrong, in fact alot of what you said is wrong.
Alot of people on here read the wrong things, its ok I use to read the same things its not till you join to you start to find out the right things(but I understand whats right),
90% of stuff that you read on the internet is wrong, 99% of So called
freemasons from USA are not recognised by UGLE so are not a true freemason
in my eyes.
High Degree Fremmasons: this is wrong, if you are not liying you mean
What.......................? over to you..............
Freemasonry is open to talk about it as its not a secret society, its a society with some secrets who do alot for charity.......Like when 911 happen the next day UGLE sent over a million pounds to help so perhaps the level I am on (as you all say) is not that bad
Look, you can tell us we're wrong all you want. But that's not gonig to change our beliefs on it.
You could tell Thomas Young had it all wrong while doing the double slit experiment, but it's not going to change peoples beliefs on quantum machanics, now is it?
Why?
Are beliefs are going on what many others have researched about the freemasons. You are going on what some freemasons are tell you.
I work for a company that went through a huge legal case back in the late 90's. It's a common fact. But no one at the company is going to tell me about it. And if I decided to ask, I bet I'd loose my job. just as you would loose your membership.
Now.....
BE GONE UNWORTHY TROLL!!
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:46 PM
m3, dude, wakeup!
Is that in the brochure they give the rush freshmen?
It goes back a helluva lot farther than that, my friend, farther back than the temple of Solomon.
My uncle was a Shriner; you know, those guys in the red fezzes (fezii? what's the plural of fez?)? He luuuuuved to ride around in his little miniature car with his buddies.
Unless you've got the breeding, about the only cool secret you're likely to learn is where to get one of those little cars at a good price.
The only problem I see with being a mason is that I would be contributing to a secret system of influence which, at least in my view, only helps those in that system. Yes, the Shriners build hospitals, but given the way people are poisoned and poison themselves, it's just part of an endless cycle of predation.
I was in Rotary from 1995 to 2000. It was ok; I got to network and meet some other business people in my small town of 15,000.
One day, I was sitting at a lodge lunch with some other rotary guy about my age. Apropos of nothing and making small talk, I asked him why he joined.
I'll never forget what he said, and I quit the organization about 2 months later. I completely lost my appetite for it.
He said, "In a small town, if you want to make it in business, you go to church every sunday and join rotary."
And he said it with this smirk on his face that almost made me throw my plate of overcooked chicken in his face. :cool:
So, that, dude, is what you've got in store for yourself. I don't know how old you are, but probably just out of college. So mulitply 50 weeks x 40 years, and that's how long you're going to be spending with these schmucks.
If it was me, I'd rather spend a Friday lunch hour flying a kite.
Intresting read
masonic3
23-02-2007, 12:47 PM
Alright. As we can see so far, Masonic3 is a troll. Or just retarded. Not in the sense of mentally handicapped, but rather in the sense of; he came to a site that is against freemasonry to promote freemasonry.
Only two things left to do.
1: Contact the admins or mods to get him out off of this site, and hopefully do an IP ban
2: Please direct him to another site that will be open to his comments.
Now, if he is genuine(which nobody seems to believe) then we should be more clear and not just make random states only someone in the same state of mind as you would make.
So, what do you all think?
I am not a troll and you all asked me about freemasonry..
I f you don't want to hear about it don't ask, be in darkness?! up to you.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
23-02-2007, 12:50 PM
I am not a troll and you all asked me about freemasonry..
I f you don't want to hear about it don't ask, be in darkness?! up to you.
It's not about asking or not.
The fact is, you came to a site that is against freemasonary, claiming to be a freemason.
You don't need a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I say we drop the thread, close it, and if you don't want anymore mouth from me, then you don't bring it up.
tonto o_reilly
23-02-2007, 12:55 PM
masonic3 has officially been welcomed (the title to this thread)and this thread is now a slinging match so it will be closed