Pedophilia becoming legal?

[croaticus]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

[anoninnyc]

i think that pedophilia is promoted by the illuminati so that they can scar children at a young age to ruin them and easily control them

[eternal_spirit]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

The age of consent for sex various from country to country. In the Uk it's 16
You can be married and have kids in some states in USA at 13 or 14 other states it's 18 (not certain about this) in most European countrys it's 14.
It was common for ppl to marry at 14 in the UK not so long ago.
If you look up the meaning of the word paedophile it means an adult who want's sex with children( pre pubesant) not menstrating young women who by nature can give birth. some African countrys there is no age of consent.

[eternal_spirit]

I wasn't a virgin by the age of 14

[eternal_spirit]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

I agree that pornography is going too far at that age though:mad:

[father ted]

A girl wanting to fuck at age 14 is different from a girl who is an unwilling participant. There are supposedly lots of slaves in the porno industry no matter what age, and the debate about this issue is probably there so other's miss the point. It's to divert your attention from the real problem at hand.

[father ted]

But yes, pedophiles are probably planning this, since it's coming from a parliament. They might see this as a step forward, and someone told me that, I think it's only since somewhere in the 1800's ( or is it the 1700's?) that pedophelia became illegal. Before that it was legal. Another one of many changes that occured at the start of the industrial age, which makes me think about what caused it, but that's a different issue.

[bumble]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...
The person/people who want to legalize it, are probably pedophilia's themselves. So they won't have to worry if they are caught.

[marpat]

Age of consent is different in other countries but it was recently reported that Gypsy minors are getting married in Britain, which is a problem as they will consider it their right to have underage sex.

I think the dictionary definition of paedophilia is to have sex with pre-pubescent children. The term tends to be used more to indicate sex with anybody below the age of consent.

[mimidamnit]

[QUOTE=father ted;10204]A girl wanting to fuck at age 14 is different from a girl who is an unwilling participant. There are supposedly lots of slaves in the porno industry no matter what age, and the debate about this issue is probably there so other's miss the point. It's to divert your attention from the real problem at hand.[/QUOTE


so what's the real problem at hand this time, father ted...i am sick of people with "answers" but no drive to action...RED DAWN...us against the elite of america...those that have the power to break us to our knees...im ready when you are...just give me a platoon...mimi

[mimidamnit]

i think that pedophilia is promoted by the illuminati so that they can scar children at a young age to ruin them and easily control them



yea no kidding...easily manipulated...and we sit here and read..sit here and watch...boy we sure give a great big fuck for our kids eh....fuck the illuminati, there are enough of us to break them down...when can we start?

[empyblessing]

yea no kidding...easily manipulated...and we sit here and read..sit here and watch...boy we sure give a great big fuck for our kids eh....fuck the illuminati, there are enough of us to break them down...when can we start?

Victory cannot be achieved through strength of arms a lone. A new Elite would form the moment the old one was destroyed. The revolution lies within.

[kweli]

I think this kind of fits in this thread.

Paedophile escapes jail for abusing girl, 11, after judge says 'she welcomed sex'

A paedophile who molested an 11-year-old girl escaped jail yesterday when a judge ruled the victim had "welcomed" his advances.

Judge Robert Atherton triggered outrage when he told Manchester Crown Court the child had invited Jon Dixon's attack as she had a "sexual awareness" that would make someone twice her age blush.

The judge rejected an assessment by the probation service that Dixon, 20, posed a "high risk of serious harm to children".

Full story: http://dailynewspaper.co.uk/

[mynameis]

The article says "Kept for personal use." I say kept personal my ass. You all are reading this correctly.

[howie]

A TWELVE-year-old boy who raped a girl of seven during a drunken truth or dare game has been given a last chance by a judge to keep his freedom after absconding from a residential home.

The boy from Tyneside was made the subject of a three-year supervision order in January this year at Newcastle Crown Court after admitting rape.

He was placed on a residential programme designed to help juvenile offenders after the court heard he came from a troubled background and was in need of specialist treatment.

But the boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was back before the court yesterday for breaching the terms of the order by absconding from the home in the south of England.

Judge Michael Cartlidge, who imposed the original order, heard the boy had left the home without authority at 8.15pm on May 5, returning at 8.55pm, having withdrawn money from his account from a cashpoint machine. He also heard the boy had similarly absconded from the home a few days earlier for about an hour and had been warned about his behaviour. Judge Cartlidge yesterday fined the boy £200 and allowed the order to continue, but warned him he faced the prospect of being sent to secure accommodation if he breached the order again.

He said the boy was apparently making some use of the chance he had been given and staff and psychiatrists thought he was making “some progress”. But he told him: “You are coming very close to the point when I am going to send you away to a secure institute, which I don’t think you are going to like. I don’t expect you are going to get this chance again.”

At the hearing in January, prosecutors told how the boy had drunk four cans of lager and downed two miniature bottles of vodka before the attack in Gateshead in September 2006.

He was arrested after the victim told her mother what had happened. While being interviewed by police, he admitted engaging in other sexual activity, including the alleged rape of a four-year-old boy.

Explaining his decision to send the 12-year-old to the residential programme, Judge Cartlidge said the case was an unusual one and he was not helped by sentencing guidelines under the Criminal Justice Act 2003.

He said he concluded the guidelines did not prevent him from sending the boy for treatment, which all the experts who interviewed him agreed he needed.

[psychick]

OMG I think i'm gonna throw up... how gross is that to legalize child porn?

Shoot to kill policy for anyone whom believes in this violently abusive (in itself) decision.

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

[lightgiver]

my daughter got pregnant at 15,and is now a mother,i am a young grandad,i am only 41,i went mad, but i spilt from my x wife when my daughter was young,so their is not a lot you can do about it,my daughter is happy and thats all what matters,i still do not agree though with young pregnancies:(the kids need more education,i tried to warn her,but she would not listen,we do not have a bad relationship,and my grand daughter is lovely and healthy,:)and i will always be there for them both,when needed,all kids experiment when they are young,thats life:rolleyes:you will always have pervs:eek:so educating kids is most important:)

[shodan]

Its a massive agenda all part of destroying our societies further, they are trying to make it the norm

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html

German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed
Micheal O'Brien, author on crisis of culture in West, says this "German state intervention in family life is a new level of auto-destruction"

By John-Henry Westen

BERLIN, July 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

[exicutioner151]

[QUOTE=father ted;10204]A girl wanting to fuck at age 14 is different from a girl who is an unwilling participant. There are supposedly lots of slaves in the porno industry no matter what age, and the debate about this issue is probably there so other's miss the point. It's to divert your attention from the real problem at hand.[/QUOTE


so what's the real problem at hand this time, father ted...i am sick of people with "answers" but no drive to action...RED DAWN...us against the elite of america...those that have the power to break us to our knees...im ready when you are...just give me a platoon...mimi



Hi Mimidamnit,
u seem a bit lop sided , elite of america ?????? mabey u were absent for the elite of the british monarch day , or the elite of germany day , or the elite of france day , . Also last i checked spontanious over barring gung ho types like say ,george bush should not be given command of anything but toilet duty ! hence thiers weapons of mass destruction in iraq lets go get em !!!!!!!!!!! we see how much of that was a load of shit and wrong and yet they complain over those in the past like pol pot , hitler and others when they act the same .... shall we have a hail mimi ? :D


Exicutioner151

[lightgiver]

remember OP ORE lots of mps involved:eek:did they get brought to justice:confused:hmm let me think:confused:i don't think so?

[exicutioner151]

Hi ,
I know most that is spoken of when it comes to reptilians , pedophilia is most commonly mentioned . David Icke and others have stated this many times over , while its prevelant it seems to be on the rise and seems to be more common . History tells if u expose this to public more and more it tends to desencitize the population by making it so common place its over looked . Then it tends to happen even more then ever befor , to the point its readily accepted by the mass public . Pedophilia seems to be a common theme in detective shows CSI and documentaries more and more . Some countries as Shodan mentions germany it seems to have been a massivly accpted practice , such as the ufo movies and documentaries have desencitized the public to the existance of ufo . a result of that is its more laughed at and disscussed in a jokingly manner but averts ur attention to any problems that could arise allowing more activity to occur .

Does anyone think that this isant happening now with this subject so it gets so common place that its allowed to happen with little to no interference ? another thing is thier is a connection to pedophiles getting more in to abusing kids with lower form of animals . I have herd in egypt (altho i havent got a link or anything to this) thier was found at Bubastis in the lower part of egypt , they had found shrines to the goddess Bastet . They had several cat mummies but they had found larger mummies that seemed to be with abnormalities that would suggest they were part cat . Has anyone ever thought that the rising beastiality trend is to cross breed humans with lower form of animals? Thier are mythological creatures that have been told of that have been found to exist at one time . Harpies , cenotaurs, menotaurs are examples of this . Another thing that had been found that others did not believe ever existed was the giants, and i dont mean some one 7 foot tall i mean larger then that .

Its a known fact that in ancient Hawaii thier is stories of the people were some 15 foot tall . They also has found skeletons that supported this befor like they have found skeletons in other countries like mexico and peru . Also thier have been skeletons found with skulls that have horns which were termed Demon skulls . As i said the rising beastiality trend could be a down played attempt to cross breed due to some other agenda to prepare for some future habitat . as is known the main animals used are dogs, horses, goats , bulls , and thier has been instances of dolphins . Im not sure what David thinks of this or even if hes made any connection to it but most the animals used that are able to copulate with a human are known as god/goddess totems in many religions.
What does anyone else think of this ?


Exicutioner151

[alexc]

With the spread of gay legalization in the USA, it's pretty much the same thing.

[purple rain]

There's a big hoopla over underage sex. To me it's evident that almost any guy (and girl) looks at teenage minors with lust even if they don't want to admit it. They're obviously more enlightened in Hungary and places like the Netherlands. I'd like to say that I have an age where I draw the line but there's a great book called Harmful to minors that argues that if teens or children too aren't scarred and enjoy it then sex at any age ought to be a fine thing. Unfortunately social taboos are hard to break and it seems like even on a fringe conspiracy forum people have a problem with even homosexuality. That's a shocker. The existence of reptilians ok, gays disgusting?

[alexc]

There's a big hoopla over underage sex. To me it's evident that almost any guy (and girl) looks at teenage minors with lust even if they don't want to admit it. They're obviously more enlightened in Hungary and places like the Netherlands. I'd like to say that I have an age where I draw the line but there's a great book called Harmful to minors that argues that if teens or children too aren't scarred and enjoy it then sex at any age ought to be a fine thing. Unfortunately social taboos are hard to break and it seems like even on a fringe conspiracy forum people have a problem with even homosexuality. That's a shocker. The existence of reptilians ok, gays disgusting?

Here's the short version:

You just came out as supporting and siding with pedophiles.

You disgust me.

[purple rain]

Score:

Pedos 3 - 0 Non-Pedos

[novymir]

Here's the short version:

You just came out as supporting and siding with pedophiles.

You disgust me.

You are being played like a fiddle, by the force you think you are opposing. That force sustains itself by controlling both sides of an imposed binary/polarized/dualistic frame of reference.
Your thoughts are not your own until you begin to realize this.

hint:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[mamakaz]

Germany and EU to Legalise Paedophilia
German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed Micheal O'Brien, author on crisis of culture in West, says this "German state intervention in family life is a new level of auto-destruction"

By John-Henry Westen

http://www.tpuc.org/node/151

"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds.
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This made me want to vomit!

[marpat]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

Paedophilia is having ssex with pre-pubescent children if you look at the dictonary definition. Different countries have different age limits.

I think the only reason why they would legalise porn like that is to rake in a load of cash. People are obsessed with youth and beauty featuring very slim, young and pretty girls. It gives them a larger net of people to exploit.

[adbasque]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...

I have said it yonks ago, they will legalise it, step by step, if we don't stop it right now.

It started in Switzerland by a German Dr who wanted to show that molesting a child is a good thing.

Before we know it, paedophilia will be legal just like the other things, such as alcohol, gambling, drugs etc..

Yes rape will be legalised, the poor rapist can't help it, he was born with it so let him rape, he is not going to hurt her just have some fun.

Murder will also be legalised, if anyone annoys you enough you can kill him/her, so long as you don't touch the Elite themselves.

A lot of things will be legal if we don't step on the brakes right now.

[novymir]

Germany and EU to Legalise Paedophilia
German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed Micheal O'Brien, author on crisis of culture in West, says this "German state intervention in family life is a new level of auto-destruction"

By John-Henry Westen

http://www.tpuc.org/node/151

"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds.
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This made me want to vomit!

What that thing appears to me to be, the TRANSLATION should be SUSPECTED.... is a response to all the SENSATIONALISM and FEAR being promoted. You people are really pathetic. Do you not know what hypnotic SUGGESTION means???

Society is being bombarded with all this B.S. , IT IS BEING IMPLANTED INTO YOUR MINDS................... GUESS WHAT???????????????????
There WILL BE AN INCREASE IN REPORTS AND ACCUSATIONS OF THIS. IT IS VERY HARD IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE INNOCENCE--------- it is a SUBJECTIVE "offense", a CAN OF WORMS IS BEING OPENED and you gullible robots are lapping it up. And there also will be increased actual instances of it, and it will fit your own implanted fantasies of it.

Do you not get that some parents may actually be fearful of washing their children's body because of all this media BS, or that some child will mistakenly or maliciously assume something "bad" where no intent existed?

You people think you're enlightened, yet you gobble up the illuminati-owned media and press, government, and religious lines on THIS SUBJECT(only?), why would that be?
Because you are not really aware of the game that is being played on you.

"Pedophilia" was invented by , guess who? Only a little over a hundred years ago. The "pedophile" did not exist until the 1950's.
The "illuminati" are not "pedophiles", child-rapists are not "pedophiles". Satanists are not "pedophiles".
"Pedophile" means "child"- "love". How is it that that "became" a perversion? By perverting the LANGUAGE. And subliminal manipulation.

Not to mention the FACT that 99% of the damage of a so-called pedophile on a child is ACTUALLY INFLICTED BY SOCIETY through SHAME AND STIGMA projection. That is NOT the same,as coercion, physical force or any other dehumanizing violation of free-will (these are separate from so-called "pedophilia") .

Sex, in of itself is not evil, what matters is intent, informed consent, and honesty. Period.

And no, I am NOT a "practicing pedophile", and anyone who is stupid enough to claim it can go[............edit................] their "illuminati" master. "They" are laughing at you.

[unusual_suspect]

Hmm, some of the people on this forum really worry me, whenever threads about child abuse, underage sex or paedophillia appear I begin to wonder about the folk who come out protesting that sex with under age people is not actually paedophillia, I am starting to think this forum is becoming over run with kiddy fiddlers. May be some psy ops going on here?

Who in their right mind can argue that paedophilia and child abuse only harms young people and children because of the stigma society has attached to it. Other classics include people debating that paedophillia is merely a social construct.

It seems that such ponderings are merely an attempt by warped individuals to justify their own unacceptable urges. I am a parent and I would love to know where some of these people get off posting sick stuff like this :mad:

This it upsets me because I'm not sure I want to be associated with weirdo's like this and I am beginning to think that I should stop visiting the forum because there are too many wrong-uns. :(

[adbasque]

Hmm, some of the people on this forum really worry me, whenever threads about child abuse, underage sex or paedophillia appear I begin to wonder about the folk who come out protesting that sex with under age people is not actually paedophillia, I am starting to think this forum is becoming over run with kiddy fiddlers. May be some psy ops going on here?

Who in their right mind can argue that paedophilia and child abuse only harms young people and children because of the stigma society has attached to it. Other classics include people debating that paedophillia is merely a social construct.

It seems that such ponderings are merely an attempt by warped individuals to justify their own unacceptable urges. I am a parent and I would love to know where some of these people get off posting sick stuff like this :mad:

This it upsets me because I'm not sure I want to be associated with weirdo's like this and I am beginning to think that I should stop visiting the forum because there are too many wrong-uns. :(

Yes they start little by little, justifying, making it sound even glamorious, you molest a child because you have too much love for children and you can't keep your hands off.

You're not a criminal, paedophilia is only in the mind, BS BS BS, what pisses me off, is they actually try and BS us, the scary thing is some people will actually believe it, especially if it's some kind of psychologist or Dr of some sort.

I am telling you these people won't stop at nothing, only a bullet between the eyes can stop them.
I am fuming when I read these so called "Thinkers"

We are all stupid :mad:

[novymir]

Hmm, some of the people on this forum really worry me, whenever threads about child abuse, underage sex or paedophillia appear I begin to wonder about the folk who come out protesting that sex with under age people is not actually paedophillia, I am starting to think this forum is becoming over run with kiddy fiddlers. May be some psy ops going on here?

Who in their right mind can argue that paedophilia and child abuse only harms young people and children because of the stigma society has attached to it. Other classics include people debating that paedophillia is merely a social construct.

It seems that such ponderings are merely an attempt by warped individuals to justify their own unacceptable urges. I am a parent and I would love to know where some of these people get off posting sick stuff like this :mad:

This it upsets me because I'm not sure I want to be associated with weirdo's like this and I am beginning to think that I should stop visiting the forum because there are too many wrong-uns. :(

In others words, you fear Truth.
And you deny your own responsibility in creating that which you think you oppose. As long as you play that game, you will keep getting that which you fear and hold in contempt.
It can be no other way--- that is the trap of a polarized world. And it will always be that way, until one rises above it.
There can be no winner in the dialectic between "good" and "evil", except corruption.
Christ taught how to escape, but most don't have a clue.


Oh, and your post title proves my point.................. there are ONLY 2 POSSIBLE ACCEPTABLE VIEWPOINTS( a LIE). I pity you, whether you like it or not. You know not what you do.

[unusual_suspect]

In others words, you fear Truth.
And you deny your own responsibility in creating that which you think you oppose. As long as you play that game, you will keep getting that which you fear and hold in contempt.
It can be no other way--- that is the trap of a polarized world. And it will always be that way, until one rises above it.
There can be no winner in the dialectic between "good" and "evil", except corruption.
Christ taught how to escape, but most don't have a clue.

I just don't like people who interfere with youngsters and I certainly wouldn't want a Gary Glitter sort around my child. I think kiddie fiddlers should be chemically castrated.

I'm not sure what the point is of your cryptic post if there actually is a point at all, I think you are talking out of your backside matey ;)

[novymir]

I just don't like people who interfere with youngsters and I certainly wouldn't want a Gary Glitter sort around my child. I think kiddie fiddlers should be chemically castrated.

I'm not sure what the point is of your cryptic post if there actually is a point at all, I think you are talking out of your backside matey ;)


I wouild suggest looking beyond that which is apparent. Some will Know what I am speaking of, some won't.
Those who have been where you are, understand, but having moved beyond, they can see the error of that place. And won't be stopped by the backlash that is sure to come, because of LOVE.

[adbasque]

In others words, you fear Truth.
And you deny your own responsibility in creating that which you think you oppose. As long as you play that game, you will keep getting that which you fear and hold in contempt.
It can be no other way--- that is the trap of a polarized world. And it will always be that way, until one rises above it.
There can be no winner in the dialectic between "good" and "evil", except corruption.
Christ taught how to escape, but most don't have a clue.


Oh, and your post title proves my point.................. there are ONLY 2 POSSIBLE ACCEPTABLE VIEWPOINTS( a LIE). I pity you, whether you like it or not. You know not what you do.

So all the child molesters we've had over the years, didn't really exist, right?
it was our imagination, and all the paedophile networks lurking over the internet don't exist, just having a nice chat with 12/13 year olds?

What are you talking about mate?
make your point in one sentence.

[novymir]

So all the child molesters we've had over the years, didn't really exist, right?
it was our imagination, and all the paedophile networks lurking over the internet don't exist, just having a nice chat with 12/13 year olds?

What are you talking about mate?
make your point in one sentence.

I actually think I have given you plenty to contemplate, if you are interested in Truth.
See and face the observable lies of this world, and you will begin to Know the unobservable Truth. It is within you, all you have to do is trust the Creative Spirit of LOVE-FORGIVENESS-LIFE=TRUTH within. It Knows. Lying to It is lying to "GOD", and pointless.
This world is not how it seems. At All.

[purple rain]

Was my video merely of a movie posted on youtube removed? It simply showed a beautiful girl, nothing else.

Anyhoo... the posters here, all good examples of fearful, easily manipulated people. The sexual revolution had changed attitudes towards sex with minors, then the moral brigade from (where else) the US raised a storm and put an end to it. There is clear, clear evidence that many teens and *shock* children have enjoyed sex. It's incredible to see this kind of delusion on a board where people accept the existence of advanced reptile beings. No guy here would have cried "rape!" "abuse victim" at age 13 if a hot woman went down on him. It's the same for girls. But back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Also, clearly sex is a nasty, adult thing to most people. Ofcourse this would be lost to homophobic juveniles, but those who are more openly spiritual not dogmatic, there's the hope of sexual therapy for people. It's not all about dicks ramming tight holes, a sensual massage could do it, covering the body including the nasty unmentionable parts which must be spoken of in hushed whispers. And you think you're not puritan.

I thought Icke followers might have come here out of their own research and capacity for open mindedness. Not so I see, it's more like a gathering of conspiracy theorists who believe something because it sounds weird and impropable. It's better to be a main stream sheep than a crazy sheep.

[purple rain]

The above post was brought to you by the CIA and a special psy ops branch. To boost the pedo agenda and swell the ranks of satanic child abusers. Some may think this is intended to be sarcastic. But is it? Hmmm?

[merlincove]

i think that pedophilia is promoted by the illuminati so that they can scar children at a young age to ruin them and easily control them

dont 'think' it, know it....

are we looking at more scare / fear tactic mongering, incitement of violence etc to cause a reaction. And we all knbow what follows reactions...

maybe tis a trial to see how it is accepted?

[purple rain]

Looks like the illuminati has carried out their agenda of making people stupid, it's working fine.

[diamond dogs]

Watched a bit of this last night and was taken aback by the 'journalist' that had a constant smirk on his face when describing how girls were 'willingly' giving a line of 'men' oral relief and other very crude acts...and these were portrayed in a way of being acceptable...all were black young men in inner cities..

A definate shift through the media to introduce lewd acts as the norm and destroy vulnerability at a young age..the 'journalist' left a nasty taste in the mouth ..if you excuse the pun

20:00 Dispatches

In the wake of two recent, high-profile cases in which young women were brutally attacked and raped by groups of young men, Dispatches investigates gang rape in the UK. Journalist Sorious Samura investigates why such violent forms of assault - which he has always associated with war crimes (WTF)- are now happening in Britain.

[meksar]

If you had children and a known pedophile lived on your street they would not inform you. Also imagine your child is abused and you were to retaliate against the perpetrator, it is likely you would be prostecuted and the scumbag would get away it. This to catch a predator series is programming of whats to come of the worst kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSB4sQGT_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_yW9vQiGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-eHlrL-ng&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA5nOBahBHk&feature=related

[adbasque]

I actually think I have given you plenty to contemplate, if you are interested in Truth.
See and face the observable lies of this world, and you will begin to Know the unobservable Truth. It is within you, all you have to do is trust the Creative Spirit of LOVE-FORGIVENESS-LIFE=TRUTH within. It Knows. Lying to It is lying to "GOD", and pointless.
This world is not how it seems. At All.

What truth?
what a creative spirit of love, or even love has to do with Paedophilia?
what are you talking about?
you're sticking words together but you haven't said anything at all.

[purple rain]

The spawn of backward puritans are everywhere.

You took the trouble of capitalizing it. Why not put it in a bold font, size 50 or something to sensationalize it further?

Fact: In many cultures they never stopped or have lowered the age of consent. Shame the whole world can't conform to silly morals. The prophets of old that many "moral" people love would have taken on 12 year old brides, so please be fair and call them child abusers, thanks.

[novymir]

What truth?
what a creative spirit of love, or even love has to do with Paedophilia?
what are you talking about?
you're sticking words together but you haven't said anything at all.

Hehe, sorry man, it's not my fault you don't understand yet. Try googling some of the word definitions??

Here's some more hints:
You want to help perpetuate the effects of child abuse, and increase the chances of the abused becoming an abuser??
Then shame them, and do the below to them:

You want to help create demonic people?
Then demonize people, convince them to identify themselves as inherrently "evil".

You want to help create inhuman people?
Then label, stereotype, dehumanize them. Kill their identity, force them to accept a false one.

You want a boogie-man to hate so you can imagine yourself superior? then do the above^.

[fekdemasons]

I have said it yonks ago, they will legalise it, step by step, if we don't stop it right now.

It started in Switzerland by a German Dr who wanted to show that molesting a child is a good thing.

Before we know it, paedophilia will be legal just like the other things, such as alcohol, gambling, drugs etc..

Yes rape will be legalised, the poor rapist can't help it, he was born with it so let him rape, he is not going to hurt her just have some fun.

Murder will also be legalised, if anyone annoys you enough you can kill him/her, so long as you don't touch the Elite themselves.

A lot of things will be legal if we don't step on the brakes right now.

If murder is legalised , how about we just murder all the filthy nonces before they can act.

Job done !!

[purple rain]

Can we have a new thread to discuss the pro's of pedophilia or is that off limits?

I really should visit Hungary someday. I love me some Hungarian girlass I mean... ghoulash.

[unusual_suspect]

The spawn of backward puritans are everywhere.

You took the trouble of capitalizing it. Why not put it in a bold font, size 50 or something to sensationalize it further?

Fact: In many cultures they never stopped or have lowered the age of consent. Shame the whole world can't conform to silly morals. The prophets of old that many "moral" people love would have taken on 12 year old brides, so please be fair and call them child abusers, thanks.

The fact that we as a race are moving away from this is called progress people are evolving away from barbaric practises.

A woman is not fully developed till she is about 17, look at girls who are 12 - 14 compared to women of about 16, 17 or 18. Most 12, 13 and 14 year old girls do not exactly have child bearing hips do they, plus they are more likely to have problems with child birth because of this, their muscles are not as strong as as developed as an mature woman's. Women have strong muscles and hips to survive the birthing process. Or have you never had much to do with the fairer sex?

Has it ever occured to you that many of these young brides probably died/do die in child birth?

So, to sumarise, if you want to have sex with girls that age, then yes, there is something wrong with that!

[adbasque]

Hehe, sorry man, it's not my fault you don't understand yet. Try googling some of the word definitions??
ho ho ho, very funny


Here's some more hints:
You want to help perpetuate the effects of child abuse, and increase the chances of the abused becoming an abuser??
Then shame them, and do the below to them

Yes we know the constant bombardement aimed at us since we were born, but, paedophile has a brain just like anyone else and his responsible for his/her actions.
Now if we want to look at the source, we are all victims, I think we were all exposed to the same things more or less.

But you don't catch some of us raping kids, or committing any of these disgusting things.


You want to help create demonic people?
Then demonize people, convince them to identify themselves as inherrently "evil".

Some people are evil, we don't have to lift a finger to do it for them.


You want to help create inhuman people?
Same as above

[novymir]

ho ho ho, very funny



Yes we know the constant bombardement aimed at us since we were born, but, paedophile has a brain just like anyone else and his responsible for his/her actions.
Now if we want to look at the source, we are all victims, I think we were all exposed to the same things more or less.

But you don't catch some of us raping kids, or committing any of these disgusting things.


Some people are evil, we don't have to lift a finger to do it for them.


Same as above

Suit yourself friend, the difference between you and me is that I have held the same basic conception of the problem as you, and I fully understand where you are coming from, but you cannot comprehend where I'm coming from(though you think you do), because I have moved beyond or above it, I have realized it's a fraud designed to keep us within a reality that conflicts with the original intention.
The polarization-dualism game will only result in "evil" claiming to be good, then all that's left is debate, "evidence", deception, intimidation, and eventually, corruption wins.

This is not just about this issue, it's about everything.

[purple rain]

The fact that we as a race are moving away from this is called progress people are evolving away from barbaric practises.

A woman is not fully developed till she is about 17, look at girls who are 12 - 14 compared to women of about 16, 17 or 18. Most 12, 13 and 14 year old girls do not exactly have child bearing hips do they, plus they are more likely to have problems with child birth because of this, their muscles are not as strong as as developed as an mature woman's. Women have strong muscles and hips to survive the birthing process. Or have you never had much to do with the fairer sex?

Has it ever occured to you that many of these young brides probably died/do die in child birth?

So, to sumarise, if you want to have sex with girls that age, then yes, there is something wrong with that!


Exactly how much difference would an 18 year old have from a 14 year old in muscle strength?

Has it occurred to you that practises in ancient times were not developed enough to save those young and not so young brides?

But thanks for the propaganda.

[unusual_suspect]

Exactly how much difference would an 18 year old have from a 14 year old in muscle strength?

Has it occurred to you that practises in ancient times were not developed enough to save those young and not so young brides?

But thanks for the propaganda.

Well, you justify it all you like mate, maybe if you eyed up women instead of children you would know what I mean.

[unusual_suspect]

This should be re-named the Gary Glitter is my hero and I like to do it with little boys and girls thread!

[purple rain]

There you go muddying the situation. If one says minors are ok then suddenly boys enter it too and ofcourse you have to refer to teens as children. Whatever, oh moral one. But we both know that you secretly look at all those jailbait pics floating around the net.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4142/jailbait1pe5.jpg

[unusual_suspect]

There you go muddying the situation. If one says minors are ok then suddenly boys enter it too and ofcourse you have to refer to teens as children. Whatever, oh moral one. But we both know that you secretly look at all those jailbait pics floating around the net.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4142/jailbait1pe5.jpg

Don't judge me by your standards :eek:

And yes, I am actually above that sort of thing.

[purple rain]

And if a busty 15 year old fell over your dick with her mouth open and slobbering you would fight her off with all your strength saying "Stop, it's immoral!!"

[adbasque]

And if a busty 15 year old fell over your dick with her mouth open and slobbering you would fight her off with all your strength saying "Stop, it's immoral!!"

Why would she fall over you, unless you allowed her to do so in the first place.
You could stop her way before she gets to that stage.

If you find it hard, think of your own daughter doing this to another guy:rolleyes:

[purple rain]

Imagine the sick depraved behaviour of your 18 year old daughter doing this to a guy. I mean people's daughters are fiercely sucking on the penises of men out there, gargling their semen and in some instances swallowing it. Some are so nasty that they encourage men to push themselves into their anuses. How can these family men sleep at night knowing that the pure daughter they raised has turned into such a total slut and harlot?

[adbasque]

Imagine the sick depraved behaviour of your 18 year old daughter doing this to a guy. I mean people's daughters are fiercely sucking on the penises of men out there, gargling their semen and in some instances swallowing it. Some are so nasty that they encourage men to push themselves into their anuses. How can these family men sleep at night knowing that the pure daughter they raised has turned into such a total slut and harlot?

You see how conditioned we are?
She is a slut right, but the guy goes free, almost acceptable, if she is a slut what is he?

pervo?
Yes I see your point, but she is an adult she can decide for herself .
I don't think the agreement of her father will make any difference

[purple rain]

You see how conditioned we are?
She is a slut right, but the guy goes free, almost acceptable, if she is a slut what is he?

pervo?
Yes I see your point, but she is an adult she can decide for herself .
I don't think the agreement of her father will make any difference


The point was not about the sluttiness of the girl versus the guy and you know it strawman.


So I see, the minute she turns 18 she is an adult. Or in the UK it's 16.

But 2 days before the 18th/16th IT IS INAPPROPRIATE!!!!!:mad:

[unusual_suspect]

And if a busty 15 year old fell over your dick with her mouth open and slobbering you would fight her off with all your strength saying "Stop, it's immoral!!"

Actually I don't dig chicks if you know what I mean. ;)

[purple rain]

Woman? Homo?

[unusual_suspect]

Woman? Homo?

No, actually I belong to a percentage of the population that are asexual, I have no sexual urges, I am happy with this and if you google it there are many other like minded people.

[unusual_suspect]

http://www.asexuality.org/home/

I do not find anyone attractive :p

[purple rain]

Hmm... I must admit I didn't know this existed in human beings. It must be quite liberating.

At the same time you wouldn't know a thing about the debate at hand. :)

[unusual_suspect]

Hmm... I must admit I didn't know this existed in human beings. It must be quite liberating.

At the same time you wouldn't know a thing about the debate at hand. :)

Have you ever considered how much were are brainwashed and programmed to be sexual? Maybe it is not actually natural, or at least not for everyone and to the extent teh media would have us believe.

"Other asexuals find themselves in situations where they are expected to be sexual. They might feel pressured to fake sexual attractions in order to fit in and have an easy life. Many people find that those around them constantly bring up sexual attraction in conversations, be it sex talk in the office or "look at the legs on her". It might be easier to play along and pretend you have sexual thoughts and feelings, but in doing so you are effectively 'in the closet', whether to avoid shame or simply to make life easier for yourself."

[purple rain]

You can be pseudo-intellectuall all you want and say that every thing about us is conditioned. Stop breathing awhile then, because I declare that AIR is a lie. Break loose of the conditioning.

"Maybe it is not actually natural" my ass. I thought you were naive and deluded with all that pedo fear mongering up there but this takes the cake.

[abigail]

I totally agree..................... the mainstay of culture is sex because it sells and preys on the dark desires of humanity that were instilled. Before I woke up i operated in that modus. Now, i preserve my self respect and vital cosmic energy to radiate through my being. I seem to be around people who also believe in conserving this energy too which is also. Androgyny and asexuality is the next step in being light. If you are in tune with the lower chakras and satisfied in everything that you do then there is no need to expell the life energy from your bits.

Women say no and stop reproducing the lack of respect for our divinity through conciousness. I also heard that people who are physically more toxic tend to shag around much more because they cannot control the energy in their bodies and our out of balance.:rolleyes: Blah

Anyway it is so refreshing to know that more people are choosing this path and makes me feel very comfortable knowing that there are many that choose to abstain.

loving humanity............. one heart at a time.


Abigail x:D


Have you ever considered how much were are brainwashed and programmed to be sexual? Maybe it is not actually natural, or at least not for everyone and to the extent teh media would have us believe.

"Other asexuals find themselves in situations where they are expected to be sexual. They might feel pressured to fake sexual attractions in order to fit in and have an easy life. Many people find that those around them constantly bring up sexual attraction in conversations, be it sex talk in the office or "look at the legs on her". It might be easier to play along and pretend you have sexual thoughts and feelings, but in doing so you are effectively 'in the closet', whether to avoid shame or simply to make life easier for yourself."

[unusual_suspect]

I totally agree..................... the mainstay of culture is sex because it sells and preys on the dark desires of humanity that were instilled. Before I woke up i operated in that modus. Now, i preserve my self respect and vital cosmic energy to radiate through my being. I seem to be around people who also believe in conserving this energy too which is also. Androgyny and asexuality is the next step in being light. If you are in tune with the lower chakras and satisfied in everything that you do then there is no need to expell the life energy from your bits.

Women say no and stop reproducing the lack of respect for our divinity through conciousness. I also heard that people who are physically more toxic tend to shag around much more because they cannot control the energy in their bodies and our out of balance.:rolleyes: Blah

Anyway it is so refreshing to know that more people are choosing this path and makes me feel very comfortable knowing that there are many that choose to abstain.

loving humanity............. one heart at a time.


Abigail x:D

I believe this is the next step in our evolution, we no longer have to ensure that we have as many offspring as possible to ensure the survival of our species.

If you do choose to be penetrated by anyone you should be very carefull as you are taking in some of their energy.

[purple rain]

As I thought, this is not just an asexual perspective, it is a female perspective.

However, I'll consider the possibility of what you're saying.

[octopusrex]

Nothing new. Yogis and folks who meditate have been recommending celibacy for millennium. I'm actually a little weary of all that though. If the Gods gave us genitals, are they not to be used? It's like eyes... Would we willingly shut them out so we can see better?

[abigail]

Nothing new. Yogis and folks who meditate have been recommending celibacy for millennium. I'm actually a little weary of all that though. If the Gods gave us genitals, are they not to be used? It's like eyes... Would we willingly shut them out so we can see better?

I can see better when my eyes are closed:D i am disillusioned when they are open.

x

[novymir]

Have you ever considered how much were are brainwashed and programmed to be sexual? Maybe it is not actually natural, or at least not for everyone and to the extent teh media would have us believe.

No doubt. I happen to suspect that "they" modified our DNA in that regard(and others). We can modify our DNA.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8506668136396723343&ei=XRRFSo6KA4H0qAKO2I2KBg&q=the+new+biology+lipton&hl=en

It keeps helps keep us in body-identity, and is a diversion from our true creative essence.

[raquel]

Purple Rain..you sound extremely frustrated sexually. I find you posts offensive and make me nauseous. I really hate men like you with a passion. yeah im negative so what? cant you just keep your personal thoughts like this to yourself. You know no one here really wants to know your sick thoughts. Excuse me while i go vomit.

[purple rain]

Purple Rain..you sound extremely frustrated sexually. I find you posts offensive and make me nauseous. I really hate men like you with a passion. yeah im negative so what? cant you just keep your personal thoughts like this to yourself. You know no one here really wants to know your sick thoughts. Excuse me while i go vomit.


Why, what's so nauseous about it? How old are you by the way? Can I have your number? :cool:

[bobbydiva]

On a side note I always found it odd that you could have sex at 16, but aren't allowed to watch porn for two more years.

[hawk]

Look, people are crazy when it comes to this subject. Children are not ready to have sex until THEY are ready,ok? Let them be children for God's sake!It is not up to anyone else to decide for them. And we shouldn't either! I cannot stand a pedophile to save my life. If it were up to me, I'm sorry but you would have to be castrated physically and you would never leave the mental hospital they put you in.
:mad:

[purple rain]

If I had my way you'd never be allowed to leave Nashville.


Let the children decide when they're ready, I could not AGREE more. Unfortunately, Miss Morality many minors would love the chance to have sex. Go back to thumping the bible some more in search of morality.

[hawk]

Awww stfu purple rain! Go play with yourself in a closet somewhere! You cannot justify pedophilia on any counts whatsoever! Its wrong and I'm sticking to that statement. I still say you let the children decide, you don't push them into it, you need to leave children alone and let them be kids for crying out loud! Go fuck yourself. If you think you can justify your behaviors or beliefs onto me forget it, I'm not buying it. Let the children alone! Knowing you, it's obvious you have tendencies, you need some serious help.:mad:

[purple rain]

That's the same thing I said you dumb cow, let them decide. Can't you read?

Knowing me? Please shut up now.

[hawk]

PR, go eat a dick. and stfu!

[purple rain]

The response of anyone who's too stupid to provide a real answer. Move along.

[hawk]

I gave a real answer which was to leave the children alone and let them grow up.But you seem to be of the mind that it ok if its a 14 yr old for a grown man such as yourself to even consider having sex with a child. I don't give a damn, what you say, it's not right, now we both agree to let the child decide but that does not mean push them into it. At ALL! You let a kid be a kid, and if you have a problem with leering at 14 yr olds or children who are nearly 18 and legal, then you seriously need some help! You twat! Fuck off!!!

[purple rain]

You stupid uncomprehending cow, when I make the suggestion to push them into it? If you clearly cannot understand an argument the best thing is to stay out of it.

[hawk]

Go back and re read some of the things you have written. And if you ever call anyone stupid it should be yourself for thinking that sex with 14 yr olds is ok. But you think that since 14 yr olds want to have sex then it should be with people like yourself possibly? I read some of your other posts here and unusual suspect is right you do try to justify sex with children by saying that 14 yr old girls are going to anyway so why not? Go away! you make me sick! you're perverted and you know it!
I am no longer engaged in this with you.

[hawk]

You didn't like my castration point, who cares? My opinion and no, I don't thump a bible. Just telling you what is. You cannot justify your feelings on the matter. Goodnite!!

[bobbydiva]

I don't think it is neccessarily the age of the child, more the age of the dirty fuck who wants to have sex with them. I mean at 15 I think I'd have happily had sex with another 15 year old, but now at 18 I would barely look. If i can see the maturity difference at 18 to a 14/15 year old, then some dirty 40 year old definitely should!

[mauviene]

What if it was legal globally?

What would you do men?

Would you give into temptation?

SINNERS!! HERETICS OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF THE LORD GOD

[purple rain]

Go back and re read some of the things you have written. And if you ever call anyone stupid it should be yourself for thinking that sex with 14 yr olds is ok. But you think that since 14 yr olds want to have sex then it should be with people like yourself possibly? I read some of your other posts here and unusual suspect is right you do try to justify sex with children by saying that 14 yr old girls are going to anyway so why not? Go away! you make me sick! you're perverted and you know it!
I am no longer engaged in this with you.

I know what I wrote. Tough luck if it's not in line with your "high" morals. It's legal in many European countries so shove your stupid puritan values up your ass.

[purple rain]

What if it was legal globally?

What would you do men?

Would you give into temptation?

SINNERS!! HERETICS OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF THE LORD GOD


Ok, cool.

[mauviene]

Ok, cool.

Purple haze puts me in a daze

Purple rain makes me go insane

Purple wind wakes me back up again

Purple fire gives birth to desire

Purple plasma makes me see a phantasm

Purple clouds give me hollers and howls

Purple drank makes me walk the plank

Into a purple see of purple dolphins

Of purple barracudas and purple problems

I swim and I struggle in the purple sea bubbles

But end my enterprise in the purple now with a purple pussy

and a purple dog..and look over there its a purple frog

Purple fog clouds my purple eyes in a purple world

IT's a PURPLE SURPRISE :p

[unusual_suspect]

I can't be bothered with the trolling that is going on with this thread anymore. This is a serious issue :(

[mauviene]

I can't be bothered with the trolling that is going on with this thread anymore. This is a serious issue :(


Not really...read some history of ancient civilizations..

They all agreed that sex is sex as long as both consent



(I'm not claiming that I agree I just think conspiracy theorists and fringe minded people shouldn't be aghast by such a simple subject.)

[unusual_suspect]

Not really...read some history of ancient civilizations..

They all agreed that sex is sex as long as both consent



(I'm not claiming that I agree I just think conspiracy theorists and fringe minded people shouldn't be aghast by such a simple subject.)

Well, I can see what you mean, but I just think it's a shame how this thread has degenerated in to a bit of a arguement about whether it's ok for people to do youngsters.

It's been derailed somewhat, do you think pedophillia is becoming legal? Idk, I think images of children are becoming incresingly sexualised in the media, so it wouldn't suprise me. Do I think it's right? No I don't.

Is that because I'm a prude, maybe, however, I will offer the caveat that I personally don't give a stuff if other people think I'm a prude as I march to the beat of my own drum.

I am an old fart who is way past her sell by date and I don't even know what shows are on TV at the moment so why would I care? :confused::p:rolleyes:

[mauviene]

Well, I can see what you mean, but I just think it's a shame how this thread has degenerated in to a bit of a arguement about whether it's ok for people to do youngsters.

It's been derailed somewhat, do you think pedophillia is becoming legal? Idk, I think images of children are becoming incresingly sexualised in the media, so it wouldn't suprise me. Do I think it's right? No I don't.

Is that because I'm a prude, maybe, however, I will offer the caveat that I personally don't give a stuff if other people think I'm a prude as I march to the beat of my own drum.

I am an old fart who is way past her sell by date and I don't even know what shows are on TV at the moment so why would I care? :confused::p:rolleyes:

Yea I don't care really. We have all been conditioned to accept that girls are only applicable for sexuality when or after they hit puberty and start growing breasts. But a lot of men (even though most wont admit it because of social stigmas) find themselves looking at little girls..which seems to be blossoming quite comfortably in Europe as I am reading here.

This of course is not new. Most nobles and philosophers of the ancient days preferred sexual relations with little girls and boys..but hey..we are domesticated in a different way so ?? It's all opinion which has to go through the arduous process of the judiciary system..though to say it will be accepted as world wide law I highly doubt...such as marijuana is restricted to the Netherlands..I assume such actions of sexual relations with young girls with stick to certain parts of Europe..and of course third world countries such as Thailand where high class business men go to get young prostitutes from poor families.

[purple rain]

But a lot of men (even though most wont admit it because of social stigmas) find themselves looking at little girls..which seems to be blossoming quite comfortably in Europe as I am reading here.


Do you have any links to that?

[mauviene]

Do you have any links to that?

Not at all..it's just from my experience. (I'm not talking about me personally either)

[unusual_suspect]

Yea I don't care really. We have all been conditioned to accept that girls are only applicable for sexuality when or after they hit puberty and start growing breasts. But a lot of men (even though most wont admit it because of social stigmas) find themselves looking at little girls..which seems to be blossoming quite comfortably in Europe as I am reading here.




How old do you mean, do you mean pre pubescent?

Also do a lot of men really look at little (pre pubescent) girls sexually? I don't think this is the case at all.

[alexc]

Michael Jackson was very fond of little children, and not in the "entertain them and make them happy" way either.

[novymir]

How old do you mean, do you mean pre pubescent?

Also do a lot of men really look at little (pre pubescent) girls sexually? I don't think this is the case at all.

I don't think they are either. But,,,,,,,,,,,, there is a reverse psychology/subliminal suggestion being implanted with all this "pedo" stuff.
People have 'pedo" on the brain. There has also been research into the idea that by telling people not to do something, guess what? they end up doing it.
Or, at least, they develop shame for even thinking it. Would they have even thought of it otherwise? And with all the other shame-triggers in this world, it's no wonder we're living in a world over-flowing with people who hate themselves. And how is that manifested?

Shame is worthless. It's like a demon. Yet people do it to each other and themselves all the time. There are ALOT more people than who care to admit that are living a "life" bound by shame.
I happen to think we've all, except maybe for a fortunate few, been traumatized and in denial, at a higher, and deeper level than we are generally aware of. My view is that we've been trapped here somehow, in an insane predatory/parasitic reality, and I do not believe it was always like that. Which I cannot accept as being of the highest authority.

What's going on in this world is the curse of polarity/dualism. The result of a disturbed mind.

[radford]

Sorry to change the point within the debate - but has anyone considered that the Bible suggests that Sex should be kept for within a marriage relationship. There are good reasons for that - as the massive spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancies have shown.

Interestingly the Bible does not talk about Paedophilia and no-where in it do we have any advice from God about ages of consent which are man made things.

Now if someone is to be married then it makes sense for them to be the legal age of consent. For most of the World that is around 13 - 14.

The raising in the UK and USA of the age of consent to around 18 ( in the UK People who are in positions of trust cant have sex with anyone under 18 ) is a step to criminalise many relationships - including married people.

This has to be wrong.

In the UK the UK Government gives CONDOMS and BIRTH CONTROL to 11 year olds in schools freely - and in many schools children age 11 - 14 are encouraged by Sexual Health Clinics within schools to go out and have sex.

However, for girls that age because of the later maturing of boys this often means relationships with older teenagers and men in the 20s to 40s.

Then we have the situation where the "children" have been co-erced by the system into having sex with older people and then the older persons ( being more responsible ) being criminalised by going along with their desires rather than saying no. After all it is easy to say no to sex in a society which bombards people with sex in the media all day long.

Therefore the root cause of the problem that you are all discussing is that you have moved AWAY from the idea of a Marriage Relationship where you have sex with the person you love and you want to be with to raise children. Sex has been turned into a "social" thing with rules and regulations that do not make sense - whereas the REAL RULE has been pushed to the side by those who are basically wanting us to revert to multi sexual behaviour - which in fact is not the way we were created.

The family is therefore being destroyed - and Paedophilia ( which does exist among thankfully very few sick people ) is being tagged onto nearly 90% of the population.

This is genius by the PTB because they can pretend that PAEDOPHILIA is an epidemic - and that they can cover it up by accusing everyone else of being a paedophile ( as they successfully have done with everyone from Michael Jackson to Al Fayed to Jonathan King ) when in fact the truth is that all of them are innocent.

I realise because I believe in marriage I am not very cool - but take it from me the happiness level of people who get married and stay married and have a loving family is far higher than those who sleep around - who possibly get STDs - and have to have abortions. I know which life I would choose every time.

The PAEDO debate is missing the point - it is a cover up for discussion of the real issue. Should people get married and stop sleeping around ? and my answer to that is - people should look for someone they want to be with and love before jumping into bed. That has NOTHING to do with the clumsy state ages of consent ( which actually lead to promiscuity in my view ).

We need to start showing LOVE to each other. Sex for personal gratification only is SELFISH and has nothing to do with LOVE at all. This forum is meant to be enlightened - but this thread makes me feel that many are in the dark and have lost the ability to differentiate between LOVE and a SHAG/USING someone for sexual gratification. The only rule for some of you is age - shame on you.

Sex should be a gift that is saved for marriage or a long term relationship. Then it will be better and mean more to you. It has been so devalued by the PTB in the last 40 years to become a meaningless animal act. That is such a shame when God created it as the highest form of love and to help us reproduce.

[unusual_suspect]

Sorry to change the point within the debate - but has anyone considered that the Bible suggests that Sex should be kept for within a marriage relationship. There are good reasons for that - as the massive spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancies have shown.

Interestingly the Bible does not talk about Paedophilia and no-where in it do we have any advice from God about ages of consent which are man made things.

I don't see what the Bible has do do with it at all, I am into occultism, and more of your earth worship sort of stuff so it has no bearings on my beliefs. I think any religious dogma should be kept strictly for private matters and is best kept for individual discernmet and has no place in deciding the laws that shape socieites.



Then we have the situation where the "children" have been co-erced by the system into having sex with older people and then the older persons ( being more responsible ) being criminalised by going along with their desires rather than saying no. After all it is easy to say no to sex in a society which bombards people with sex in the media all day long.

Do you think it is easy to say no to sex when the media is saturated with it? Are you being sarcastic, I remember being a young lass and sleeping with people because I thought it was a cool thing to do. As an adult I've slept with people out of "politeness" and not wanting to appear rude, out of sympathy etc.
Therefore the root cause of the problem that you are all discussing is that you have moved AWAY from the idea of a Marriage Relationship where you have sex with the person you love and you want to be with to raise children. Sex has been turned into a "social" thing with rules and regulations that do not make sense - whereas the REAL RULE has been pushed to the side by those who are basically wanting us to revert to multi sexual behaviour - which in fact is not the way we were created.

The family is therefore being destroyed - and Paedophilia ( which does exist among thankfully very few sick people ) is being tagged onto nearly 90% of the population.

This is genius by the PTB because they can pretend that PAEDOPHILIA is an epidemic - and that they can cover it up by accusing everyone else of being a paedophile ( as they successfully have done with everyone from Michael Jackson to Al Fayed to Jonathan King ) when in fact the truth is that all of them are innocent.

I realise because I believe in marriage I am not very cool - but take it from me the happiness level of people who get married and stay married and have a loving family is far higher than those who sleep around - who possibly get STDs - and have to have abortions. I know which life I would choose every time.

The PAEDO debate is missing the point - it is a cover up for discussion of the real issue. Should people get married and stop sleeping around ? and my answer to that is - people should look for someone they want to be with and love before jumping into bed. That has NOTHING to do with the clumsy state ages of consent ( which actually lead to promiscuity in my view ).

We need to start showing LOVE to each other. Sex for personal gratification only is SELFISH and has nothing to do with LOVE at all. This forum is meant to be enlightened - but this thread makes me feel that many are in the dark and have lost the ability to differentiate between LOVE and a SHAG/USING someone for sexual gratification. The only rule for some of you is age - shame on you.

Sex should be a gift that is saved for marriage or a long term relationship. Then it will be better and mean more to you. It has been so devalued by the PTB in the last 40 years to become a meaningless animal act. That is such a shame when God created it as the highest form of love and to help us reproduce.

I think people could be really missing out on someenriching life experiences if they are unable to have a meaningful relationship with a significant other. As I said before, not being a christian marriage is neither here nor there, but I'm with you on this and I think this has happened by design.

[rowan22]

The deeper significance for me is the well understood Psychological process which can predispose someone to sexually predatory behaviours.

Our culture is increasingly disdainful of natural emotion on pretty much every level of our experience. We have (in the U.K) a new kind of obsession with health and safety fuelled by a litigious culture and encouraged because, if its for our "own good" we can’t complain can we?

The "liberal" elites want to establish a polarity of contradictory forces which when combined together render our will to resist powerless. The average person is only aware of the constant drone of "you mustn’t do this and you can't do that" and this relentless pedagogy leaves them feeling sick and tired of being told what to do and when to do it.

The net result however is that the controllers are left with the aura of the “guardians“. An aura which is exactly the opposite of their true motivation.


This leaves the bulk of the population unable to resist as the central message i.e. to protect is a morally and an ethically positive message. The facts however are somewhat different.

Human beings process emotion naturally when equity and transparency are present. Psychologists have understood this since the nineteen fifties and sixties. Experiments done which promoted "learned helplessness" involved a dog being placed in a cage with a partition down the centre. The dog would be subjected to an electric shock and would jump over the divide to escape.

While ever the dog could escape he would. If however the possibility of jumping the divide was prohibited the dog would not even try to jump when the prohibition was removed. The dog would sit and be shocked making no attempt to escape.

The conclusion being that if an organism can adapt to an hostile environment it will. If it cant it will simply learn to be helpless and effectively surrender.

The elites have used this insight to subject human beings to a situation where we are constantly bombarded with images of an abusive sexual nature.

Sex which is bereft of intimacy, bereft of emotional contact sex which is exploiting rather than sharing.

To defeat human will turning man against woman and vice versa is the easiest way to go. They cultivate our most vulnerable and insecure emotions and use them against us.

In this toxic slurry of control and disdain and ultimately acted out sexual behaviour, we are then offered the "protection" of a sexual McCarthyism that further represses the pain it has created.

Paedophilia serves this purpose perfectly. It is the moral absolute of societal revulsion. It can therefore be utilised to engineer the ultimate in learned helplessness.

Images of exploitation combined with a culture which is disgusted by real intimacy is creating an emotional state within our culture which cultivates the mindset that allows war and genocide and no one any longer has the feeling response to pain and suffering because it has been eroticised into acceptability.

Sex sells.....slavery......genocide and insanity.

When a person can be vulnerable they can heal. When they can’t they repress what is unacceptable and create more victims as a result.

First we feel the pain, then we are angry at those who inflict the pain. Then we are angry at ourselves for feeling the pain, then we are angry at those who feel pain.

[novymir]

The deeper significance for me is the well understood Psychological process which can predispose someone to sexually predatory behaviours.

Our culture is increasingly disdainful of natural emotion on pretty much every level of our experience. We have (in the U.K) a new kind of obsession with health and safety fuelled by a litigious culture and encouraged because, if its for our "own good" we can’t complain can we?

The "liberal" elites want to establish a polarity of contradictory forces which when combined together render our will to resist powerless. The average person is only aware of the constant drone of "you mustn’t do this and you can't do that" and this relentless pedagogy leaves them feeling sick and tired of being told what to do and when to do it.

The net result however is that the controllers are left with the aura of the “guardians“. An aura which is exactly the opposite of their true motivation.


This leaves the bulk of the population unable to resist as the central message i.e. to protect is a morally and an ethically positive message. The facts however are somewhat different.

Human beings process emotion naturally when equity and transparency are present. Psychologists have understood this since the nineteen fifties and sixties. Experiments done which promoted "learned helplessness" involved a dog being placed in a cage with a partition down the centre. The dog would be subjected to an electric shock and would jump over the divide to escape.

While ever the dog could escape he would. If however the possibility of jumping the divide was prohibited the dog would not even try to jump when the prohibition was removed. The dog would sit and be shocked making no attempt to escape.

The conclusion being that if an organism can adapt to an hostile environment it will. If it cant it will simply learn to be helpless and effectively surrender.

The elites have used this insight to subject human beings to a situation where we are constantly bombarded with images of an abusive sexual nature.

Sex which is bereft of intimacy, bereft of emotional contact sex which is exploiting rather than sharing.

To defeat human will turning man against woman and vice versa is the easiest way to go. They cultivate our most vulnerable and insecure emotions and use them against us.

In this toxic slurry of control and disdain and ultimately acted out sexual behaviour, we are then offered the "protection" of a sexual McCarthyism that further represses the pain it has created.

Paedophilia serves this purpose perfectly. It is the moral absolute of societal revulsion. It can therefore be utilised to engineer the ultimate in learned helplessness.

Images of exploitation combined with a culture which is disgusted by real intimacy is creating an emotional state within our culture which cultivates the mindset that allows war and genocide and no one any longer has the feeling response to pain and suffering because it has been eroticised into acceptability.

Sex sells.....slavery......genocide and insanity.

When a person can be vulnerable they can heal. When they can’t they repress what is unacceptable and create more victims as a result.

First we feel the pain, then we are angry at those who inflict the pain. Then we are angry at ourselves for feeling the pain, then we are angry at those who feel pain.


Very deep insight, articulated very well.
People need to read this and comprehend it.
They're using Pavlov's Dog too... rats in a maze...pleasure-pain...
The body/brain is our Achilles' Heel, we need to "step out of it" for TRUTH to be Known.

[rowan22]

Very deep insight, articulated very well.
People need to read this and comprehend it.
They're using Pavlov's Dog too... rats in a maze...pleasure-pain...
The body/brain is our Achilles' Heel, we need to "step out of it" for TRUTH to be Known.

The misuses of Psychology are becoming increasingly common. The Pavlovian conditioning you mention is a very mechanical way of forcing an organism to deny it's own intrinsic patterns of response and replace them with externally generated and defined or conditioned responses.

This brutalising of the human spirit obliterates the very uniqueness which is the gateway to the development of more integrated and aware levels of being. Reducing our ability to discern reality down to a pre ordained perceptual map.

And seeking to engineer our response so as to conform to an agenda of an external locus of evaluation and therefore control.

[novymir]

The misuses of Psychology are becoming increasingly common. The Pavlovian conditioning you mention is a very mechanical way of forcing an organism to deny it's own intrinsic patterns of response and replace them with externally generated and defined or conditioned responses.

This brutalising of the human spirit obliterates the very uniqueness which is the gateway to the development of more integrated and aware levels of being. Reducing our ability to discern reality down to a pre ordained perceptual map.

And seeking to engineer our response so as to conform to an agenda of an external locus of evaluation and therefore control.

It's not by accident, and it's not originating from within this realm. The term "dimension" is just a metaphor, all it really means is an apparent limit of perception, or, unawareness of false limits. There are those not bound to the same apparent limits we are, and they are taking advantage of that, and doing everything they can to make it a permanent state of Being. "They" are part of a collective consciousness that seeks separation from the Greater consciousness, those being controlled here, are plugged into that consciousness, they are not usually fully conscious of the ramifications of their actions, or the unintended consequences. But they are guided by "them/It" at least part of the time.
We have potential for Self control, but our perceptions are being interferred with, through the use of energy frequency modification. Interference patterns, projection, transmission, etc.
"They" are co-creating this reality without our being aware of "them".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference

[rowan22]

It's not by accident, and it's not originating from within this realm. The term "dimension" is just a metaphor, all it really means is an apparent limit of perception, or, unawareness of false limits. There are those not bound to the same apparent limits we are, and they are taking advantage of that, and doing everything they can to make it a permanent state of Being. "They" are part of a collective consciousness that seeks separation from the Greater consciousness, those being controlled here, are plugged into that consciousness, they are not usually fully conscious of the ramifications of their actions, or the unintended consequences. But they are guided by "them/It" at least part of the time.
We have potential for Self control, but our perceptions are being interferred with, through the use of energy frequency modification. Interference patterns, projection, transmission, etc.
"They" are co-creating this reality without our being aware of "them".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference



I sense that a lot of what you say is true. Although I have very little hard evidence of my own as to the "technical" means of modulation.

I have suspected that the N.K. ULTRA research in the fifties had a lot to do with the deployment and the technical development of mobile phone technology. The low frequency electro magnetic radiation the C.I.A looked into inhibited the frontal cortex of human subjects exposed to it.

Perhaps some other more informed forum contributors could shed some information on this I would find it helpful.

But aside from the technical means at their disposal, the distortions of the "Gestalt" of our values and our intrinsic organism processing is easily enough I.M.O to create the kinds of so called "disorders" we are seeing being medicated into subordination.

A.D.D. A.D.H.D A.O.D.D all euphemism’s for the pathologising of natural responses and what are normal reactions to an abnormal situations and the saturation of distorting concepts and forces designed to engender helplessness and subservience.

I’m particularly interested in what you mention about dimensions being a metaphor. I think your right, a form of consciousness disconnected from empathy and therefore unable to create anything other than tyranny and slavery and ultimately a self fulfilling prophecy of totalitarian control.

I also think your right about their not being wholly even able to be aware of the deeper ramifications of what they are doing. I'm sure they consider their actions to be "for our own good".

I suspect much of the genocide and destruction done in our world is done by people who believe they are "illuminated" in such a way as to confer some kind of deification.

The U.S constitution has it when it says :

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness“.

Without such a commitment we are either a wolf or a sheep. We all have an equal right to connect with the universe in our own way and connect with god or whatever we conceive that to be so long as our adherence does not threaten the liberty of others to do the same.

[dude111]

i think that pedophilia is promoted by the illuminati so that they can scar children at a young age to ruin them and easily control themThats an interesting thought.... Very well could be!!!!!

[novymir]

I sense that a lot of what you say is true. Although I have very little hard evidence of my own as to the "technical" means of modulation.

I have suspected that the N.K. ULTRA research in the fifties had a lot to do with the deployment and the technical development of mobile phone technology. The low frequency electro magnetic radiation the C.I.A looked into inhibited the frontal cortex of human subjects exposed to it.

Perhaps some other more informed forum contributors could shed some information on this I would find it helpful.

But aside from the technical means at their disposal, the distortions of the "Gestalt" of our values and our intrinsic organism processing is easily enough I.M.O to create the kinds of so called "disorders" we are seeing being medicated into subordination.

A.D.D. A.D.H.D A.O.D.D all euphemism’s for the pathologising of natural responses and what are normal reactions to an abnormal situations and the saturation of distorting concepts and forces designed to engender helplessness and subservience.

I’m particularly interested in what you mention about dimensions being a metaphor. I think your right, a form of consciousness disconnected from empathy and therefore unable to create anything other than tyranny and slavery and ultimately a self fulfilling prophecy of totalitarian control.

I also think your right about their not being wholly even able to be aware of the deeper ramifications of what they are doing. I'm sure they consider their actions to be "for our own good".

I suspect much of the genocide and destruction done in our world is done by people who believe they are "illuminated" in such a way as to confer some kind of deification.

The U.S constitution has it when it says :

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness“.

Without such a commitment we are either a wolf or a sheep. We all have an equal right to connect with the universe in our own way and connect with god or whatever we conceive that to be so long as our adherence does not threaten the liberty of others to do the same.


This is my basic understanding.
Well, semi-metaphorically speaking, there are Created/Real beings/life-forms whose limit is the 3-1/2 or 4th "dimension", this being the case, their plane of existence encompasses our own, the "4th dimension" is made up of 1st through 4th, so.............. hehe, they are all around us and fully conscious of us, and do interact/intrude in our "reality".

Basically, all the old religious texts are a twisting of the truth, and the so-called New-Age is too, they would get one to ignore the lies and "negativity" all around, as if that makes it go away..... well, that's kinda what most people are doing, being within a collective consciousness it does not work that way. We are all connected, pretending that the "evil" has no effect individually is basically a rejection of that connectedness. We gotta FACE the problem before we can fix it, and it is PARADIGM WIDE ; predatory/parasitic, polarity. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
A synthesis of "good" and "evil" will only result in corruption. "Balance" is a dishonest rationalization. It does not have to be this way, and it was not meant to be.

They are not bound by linear time and space. They, it seems, are manipulating our thoughts and perceptions before they are actually manifested here, almost like they've got some type of energy field surrounding or being directed at "the planet/"universe", or our collective Being, that our thoughts are filtered or modified. I think there is like a universal filter/transmitter, but also other types specific for groupings of people, subliminal filters that are embedded within our visual field-- so, they "taint" or skew our perceptions, of everything basically. Our DNA is fair game that way too . They are projected from the "4th dimension", or maybe the term is etherically, "thought-forms", either way, it is originating from an external source. And it's not "human'. Or "The God of All".
Thay want us to blame ourselves and each other, in other words; "humans are defective, inferior, pieces of shit", "dumb animals" to be exploited and their energy consumed. They encourage us to "take responsibility for our "evil nature".

The story of the Annunaki is a metaphor of Truth. But of course, it's not the whole Truth. If that Nibiru thing "happens", it will be a projection into our minds. "They" could set off any kind of mass catastrophe. Ultimately, I think "they" are planning on a "harvest", of our energy and an attempt at creating a new collective consciousness, also known as a scaler-jump, if so, individuality will be forbidden, those that resist will be removed and reincarnated over and over into varying "realities"(projected into mind) that are meant to break their will. It's been going on like that, but now the population may be high enough for their perceived energy requirements to actualize the takeover of the Earth-Human consciousness.

But "they/It" is not the only consciousness operating, The Greater Consciousness Knows, and "they" will be stopped. But, they will be stopped from above and below "them", meaning WE are part of the CURE. We must REALIZE True identity, reconnect and/or increase awareness of the Spirit of the True Creator Within, embrace It, and Be One, of THE ONE, with THE ONE. Not the counterfeit. Know thyself--Heal Thyself.

It probably looks like I'm preaching here, but hey, that's the way it is. When one sees, faces, and rejects the observable lies, one can begin to realize the unobservable Truth.
"They" can only deceive. And that is if one is unaware of "them", and numbed or detached from The Creative Spirit within.

Most people will not be able to seriously contemplate this. Pride, ego, fear... exploited...

Basic "dimensional" perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KT4M7kiSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KT4M7kiSw

[rowan22]

I respect what you say, and I do agree with a lot of what you perceive. My approach to this reality has come from my own tribulation within the construct we call "society".

I certainly have experiences of the "Interference" you cite in your reference. The closest I can come to it in my own perception is the political takeover of "old Labour" in Britain by "New Labour".

Throughout Britain there has always been an antipathy between business and social conscience. Capitalism and Socialism have been at a seemingly intractable opposite ends of the Political opinion polls for years. Until that is the miraculous "third way" was expounded.

The mantra goes like this:

"You don’t have to decide what is most important anymore, both are necessary both are essential to ensure a healthy society"

All sounds perfectly good doesn't it? But the "spin doctors" have discovered that if you have an ideological impasse which resists resolution you don’t oppose it.....you absorb it!!

You accept its validity, you include, nay celebrate, its inclusion at the centre of your thinking. You effectively incapacitate all resistance by (appearing) to believe exactly what your opponents believe.

It doesn’t matter if you appear to agree, but have worked out that actually most people have no idea of the real operations of government are!

You develop a strategy which enables a five year or ten year plan of inclusion of ideas which then are incrementally altered...not too much, just enough so that most people will go along rather than return to the old exhausting conflicts.

And hey presto ten years hence you have moved the entire ground swell of resistance to your position and there is no longer any intractable problem, only areas for "debate" which follow the same inclusion, consolidation and transformation model.

The Chinese call it the "Tao" it's a way alright, a way by which you tell people that their sense of being enslaved is just a part of the transitory illusion of corporeal existence.

And that they should trust in the universe to balance things out!!

The truth is that China has had an elite which has controlled millions for thousands of years. Their philosophy is a philosophy of the ant hill.

Workers whose souls are thought to be like sand serving masters whose souls are thought to be like jade. Precious and inert, divine and parochial, meaningful and meaningless!

It converges nicely with the new liberal elites mindset of servant and master, and it is why we are being brainwashed into the abandonment of Judeo Christian ethics which stress the rights of the individual.

They will continue to engineer conflicts between all the monotheisms to show how bankrupt they are and then offer us the solution in the form of this supposed uber liberal new religion.

But there is no room in the new "palace” for all the new adherents so we will be expected to gaze admiringly from afar the wonders our new "masters" have created.

Whilst they shower themselves with wealth and security and their children are prepared for the reigns of power.

Because after all if the "universe has selected them" who are we to argue?

[claireess]

Hungary may legalize porn involving 14 to 17-year-olds for home use...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm?csp=34

Is this the beginning of legalization of pedophilia?
Maybe the next step will be legalization of rape? And murder, and...In some cultures it is deemed as normal. In the early sixties homosexuallity was illegal. Only today I saw a huge roadside poster depicting a young girl in a short skirt with a middle aged man underneath smoking a large cigar and peering up her skirt. What kind of message is this sending out to young children. Of course sex is normal and healthy, but there is a time for innocence.
I can see the day, although gladly I will not be around to see it, when society here in UK becomes as de-sensitised to child sex as it is to homosexuality.

Living to a very old age has its drawbacks when you see things that make you heave.

[the itinerant shrubber]

Pedophilia is the attraction to pre pubescent children. A child is a legal definition and varies around the world. If you're attracted to a 14 yr old,its normal reproductive instinct.

[brainfreeze]

Pedophilia is the attraction to pre pubescent children. A child is a legal definition and varies around the world. If you're attracted to a 14 yr old,its normal reproductive instinct.

Sure, but what I found is that the pedophile who groomed me and my sis continued to abuse us from the age of around 11/12 to way past 14, I got away at 16. That wasn't normal reproductive instinct. It was a sick pedophilia mind.

Sure the label pedo is the attraction of pre pubescent, but it's also the attraction of the vulnerably innocent child. As far as I am aware anyone under the age of 16 is a child, sure they may be teenagers but they are still children.

[alexc]

Any state or nation that legalizes sex with anyone under the age of 18, preferably 21, is endorsing pedophilia.

[alexc]

Pedophilia is the attraction to pre pubescent children. A child is a legal definition and varies around the world. If you're attracted to a 14 yr old,its normal reproductive instinct.

That's exactly what you'd EXPECT a pedophile to say.

[soul_traveller]

Christ taught how to escape, but most don't have a clue.
"Pedophilia" was invented by , guess who? Only a little over a hundred years ago. The "pedophile" did not exist until the 1950's.
The "illuminati" are not "pedophiles", child-rapists are not "pedophiles". Satanists are not "pedophiles".
"Pedophile" means "child"- "love". How is it that that "became" a perversion? By perverting the LANGUAGE. And subliminal manipulation.

Not to mention the FACT that 99% of the damage of a so-called pedophile on a child is ACTUALLY INFLICTED BY SOCIETY through SHAME AND STIGMA projection. That is NOT the same,as coercion, physical force or any other dehumanizing violation of free-will (these are separate from so-called "pedophilia") .

What the hell are you on about??? :confused:
I suggest you look at some kind of deprogramming work, like Stewart and Janet Swerdlow research at www.expansions.com or simply just take a serious look at yourself.

The bible is a confused bag of stuff.

Why would anyone want to identify with the bible and religion in general? The Bible in part justifies, violence, slavery, the suppression of the rights of women, rape, murder and pedophilia.

This is the real meaning of "Come little children and suffer unto thee?"

[alienpsyting]

Why would anyone want to identify with the bible and religion in general? The Bible in part justifies, violence, slavery, the suppression of the rights of women, rape, murder and pedophilia.

This is the real meaning of "Come little children and suffer unto thee?"


Could you give references to all of these things ??

[skyver]

The person/people who want to legalize it, are probably pedophilia's themselves. So they won't have to worry if they are caught.

This is EXACTLY the case.