Metformin and diabetes.

[justin_pushka]

Hi Mike. I was wondering if you had any alternative information about how to control type 2 diabetes without metformin and if you are aware of any adverse health implications from taking metformin? many thanks and best wishes.

[blue2]

Sorry to but in here but i have a feeling Metformin damages the kidneys amongst other things. Somatomed by Vespro Life Sciences for me would be choice:) I once saw ad for Diamoxol but don't know how good it is. Be interesting to see what Mike comes up with too.

[mikelambert]

Hi Mike. I was wondering if you had any alternative information about how to control type 2 diabetes without metformin and if you are aware of any adverse health implications from taking metformin? many thanks and best wishes.

Hello Justin. Metformin is associated with Vit B12 deficiency, and like all drugs it can cause other issues. Type 2 Diabetes is generally, but not always associated with lifestyle choices, but I'm not sure if this is so in your case?
(If you want to discuss this in forum that's fine any aspects that you feel are personal you you can mail to shen@post.com)

Insulin Resistance can be an indicator and is a big problem within many societies today and changes will need to take place to get it under control. You should discuss your medication with your GP, and not just stop taking it, but you could take supplements at the same time. If you are going to do this tell them, many do.

You might consider taking GTF (Glucose Tolerence Factor) and a good quality Omega 3 fish oil (Eskimo 3 is a good one). Always go for the best quality you can afford, otherwise you will be paying less for a load of packers and fillers which in my view is not good.
You can obtain both of these either from Nutri Ltd. or The Shen.

[blue2]

It was proven that Diabetics lose B vitamins through their kidneys in any case so whether it is due to metformin as Mike says or that they may well have had it going on anyway is left to one's imagination. Gluten blocks pituitary gland anyway and prevents Growth Hormone production that in turn is needed for insulin balance. Dr Mercola a few yrs back had it on his site that Diabetes causation was wheat based. That is why i suggested Somatomed as it opens up cell receptors so resistance may be a thing of the past. Hope it helps anyway no harm in looking is there. Of course Adrenals are associated with glucose too and link up with pituitary axis.

[mikelambert]

Hi Mike. I was wondering if you had any alternative information about how to control type 2 diabetes without metformin and if you are aware of any adverse health implications from taking metformin? many thanks and best wishes.

I don't want to get side tracked here because every individual develops a problem for individual reasons, and our food chain contains 1000's of possible causes, many hidden from us. We have, and do, deal with 100's of cases of Diabetes, and every case has to be appreciated in its own right. This is why I would like to know a little more about you, your condition and possible triggers. We do not all get a condition for the same reason, although we may share some of the factors with others. When you deal as we do with this in real time this soon becomes apparent.
Re. Wheat -it is one of the possible contributors because many wheat-based foods are disruptive to blood sugar, as they have high glycaemic index - particularly when eaten in quantity, meaning they have glycaemic load too. Carrots for example have Low GI index, but if you eat a lot of them in one go they create a High Gi index. Low-Fat and Non-Fat Cheeses have a lot of milk sugar in them. The more you eat of certain foods you would not immediately associate with triggering insulin, the worse it gets. Keep this in mind because load is very important here.
This results in the pancreas pumping out plenty of insulin and this leads to Insulin Resistance (as I mentioned in my first reply) In turn this causes blood sugar to rise, which can lead to Type 2 Diabetes. However, there are many other factors to take into consideration.
What about your lifestyle? Body Composition (very important) Eating habits, Exercise, Stress levels, Alcohol intake, Sugar - and sugar loaded products, Salt use, Family history, Cravings - just to mention a few because the list is almost endless. The bigger picture brings some very interesting facts and factors, but rarely one single cause.

[justin_pushka]

Hi Mike and everyone for answering. I dont mind discusing it here that way others can get the benefit of anything said. Basicly my history goes a little like this:

About 10 years ago I started feeling lethargic alot. I noticed that sometimes i had like a creeping sensation around my left eye. Now i think back the periods that happened was when i was consuming orange juice. Flash forward 10 years i had a really bad pain in my eye and needed the loo alot so i went to the doc. He said my sugar level was not really high but was in the diabetic range. So i started taking metformin. After a few months no pains in my eye and no lethargy. I would say up until recently my diet could have been better but wasnt total crap, i dont drink or smoke im average size and weight 6f, 14 stone reasonably fit cos i walk everywhere i need and dont drive. although working in recording studio setting mean long hours lots of caffine, little regular exercise during working hours and large gaps without meals. Ive made lots of changes since, my diet did have alot of wheat and originally i thought i may have a wheat alergy. The metformin and changes have stablized my blood sugar between 4 and 6 however i guess what i wanted to know was if you have type 2 can you do without the metformin as i dont trust big pharma and id like to be big pharma free. Am i able to reverse it by eating raw foods so i could come off metformin?

[mikelambert]

Hi Mike and everyone for answering. I dont mind discusing it here that way others can get the benefit of anything said. Basicly my history goes a little like this:

About 10 years ago I started feeling lethargic alot. I noticed that sometimes i had like a creeping sensation around my left eye. Now i think back the periods that happened was when i was consuming orange juice. Flash forward 10 years i had a really bad pain in my eye and needed the loo alot so i went to the doc. He said my sugar level was not really high but was in the diabetic range. So i started taking metformin. After a few months no pains in my eye and no lethargy. I would say up until recently my diet could have been better but wasnt total crap, i dont drink or smoke im average size and weight 6f, 14 stone reasonably fit cos i walk everywhere i need and dont drive. although working in recording studio setting mean long hours lots of caffine, little regular exercise during working hours and large gaps without meals. Ive made lots of changes since, my diet did have alot of wheat and originally i thought i may have a wheat alergy. The metformin and changes have stablized my blood sugar between 4 and 6 however i guess what i wanted to know was if you have type 2 can you do without the metformin as i dont trust big pharma and id like to be big pharma free. Am i able to reverse it by eating raw foods so i could come off metformin?

When I deal with a type 2 diabetic and bring them into a therapeutic regime I carry out bioenergetic and cellular screening. All of this is non-invasive but it enables me to get an indication as to the overall function of the person, and an insight as to their body composition, and in particular their cellular function. I often find people with 50-60% of their body cells that are inactive. Once they are are in therapy I write to their GP to explain what is happening and that they may have to consider reducing the medications that they are prescribing for that person, because things may improve. If you are not being monitored then you have no idea what the current status is concerning both your condition, and your health in general.
Orange Juice particularly from concentrate is not something I would personally recommend, because I am suspicious of it. I do not encourage my family to drink it either. There are better choices in my view.
I am not sure where you live, or if anyone near you has the technology we have, but I could check it out for you if you wish.
Unless you are being monitored in my view you have no real idea of your status. Like all health issues diabetes needs to be dealt with responsibly.

[jimj_wpg]

Get your mercury fillings out of your mouth. That is part of the issue of diabetes and elevated blood sugar.

Also stop eating anything with soy in it -- smoothies, lecithin supplements, etc.

Apple Cidar Vinegar I have been reading a few days ago mimickes what Metformin does. Try that @ 2 tablespoons (with water) 4 x per day.

[mikelambert]

Hi Mike. I was wondering if you had any alternative information about how to control type 2 diabetes without metformin and if you are aware of any adverse health implications from taking metformin? many thanks and best wishes.

Metformin has a reputation for depleting Vit B12 which in some cases leads to Pernicious Anaemia and from then on in regular injections of B12. So the drug company's win, win.

You should seriously consider lifestyle changes. Generally Type 2 in many people's view is a lifestyle health problem. Of course there can be other causes.

I also believe a lot of what people are told about a healthy diet is absolute rubbish. This information is driven by the Big Food people, and most people we see who think they have a healthy diet, are in fact on a fast track to disaster. Just one example of this is Cholesterol. An estimated 85% of depressed and suicidal people, have low cholesterol levels. coincidence? In fact 75% of people who die from heart attacks and strokes have what we are told are normal cholesterol levels and blood pressure - So, what are normal levels, and what are natural levels?
Always seek some good advice from a healthcare practitioner.

[jimj_wpg]

Check your thyroid levels - T3, T4, and TSH. I saw this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108824) recently on this forum and someone said if your thyroid is LOW, then you will have these symptoms, which are very similar to diabetes - low energy, hi blood sugar, other stuff...

I have been off of Metformin since early November. The apple cidar vinegar was helping a bit, but not completely. It does help reduce the amount of urine production, but was not lowering my blood sugar.

I feel now I have found the answer, in my case, it is a low thyroid...this past Monday (December 29 2010) I bought a small bottle of Iodine, and started off with 3 & 2 drops per day...I lost about 8 pounds...too much too fast, so reduced the dose to 3 drops per day (as of today)...

My blood sugar meter says it was HI (over 34 mmol/l) when I was on the 2 tblspoons of apple cidar vinegar 3 or 4 times a day in 8 oz. of water.
I was feeling worse for a bit.

Now still doing the vinegar, maybe twice a day and now the Iodine...the blood sugar was HI, then 31.6 (yesterday), now 30.6 (right now).

When I was off of the Metformin between August 2009 and March 2010 it was showing low 30s and then HI and then I felt so weak I checked myself into the local Hosp. But this time I feel that won't be necessary as I feel I've gained some knowledge based on my experience that it was the thyroid all along that caused my type 2 diabetes 5 years ago.

I'm certainly onto something here.

[justin_pushka]

Ive found some info that ill share here in the next week or two. For type 2 there seems to be a way of beating it thats been supressed. Basicly man made fats coat the cells so that the molecules of insulin, glucose and vit c cant get through the oil around the cell wall, hense the non response to insulin. Wheras nautral fats like dairy or veg wouldnt stop the molecules getting through. The idea is to go on a drastic diet and remove all trans fats and replace the diet with non processed foods and lots of naturals fats and lots of vit c. It can be done with flax seed oil. It takes about 7 months to work. Aparently the fuckers who make the man made fats knew in the 50s that it did this! Aparently also its well known amoung top health professionals but strangely they dont talk about it! Im going to try it in the next week or so. Ill post here all the details for anyone else thats interested and my progress through and well see if it works. Hopefully Ill get some results before codex comes in and any nutrients needed are illegal. :)

[justin_pushka]

Heres the info on a diabetic type 2 cure..............

im going to be trying this out over the course of this year so ill post the progress here for anyone whos interested in weither it works.

http://www.cancertutor.com/Diabetes/Diabetes_Type_II.htm



]"How to Prevent and Cure ALL Cases of Type 2 Diabetes
What causes type 2 diabetes? You probably think it is too much glucose or too little insulin. Actually, type 2 diabetes is caused by trans-fatty acids and other bad fats sticking onto your cell membranes and blocking the insulin ports and glucose ports in the cell.

There has been a cure for type II diabetes since at least the year 2000. Of course, you don't know about it. If you have had type 2 diabetes for many years, and face severe side-effects of the disease, see the type I article also (it is next). Here is the cure for type 2 diabetes.

WARNING
If you are already on insulin, absolutely do not stop taking insulin, and do not stop measuring your glucose levels, without your doctor's permission.


What Causes Type II Diabetes
Type 2 diabetes can be cured!! But before understanding any cure for type 2 diabetes, it is first necessary to understand the cause of type 2 diabetes.

First of all, being overweight does NOT cause type 2 diabetes!!! Scientists generate a lot of data, but frequently have no clue how to interpret the data.

The reason there is a high statistical correlation between being overweight and having type 2 diabetes is that the same thing that causes type 2 diabetes also causes some people to be overweight. For example, bad fats (such as in margarine) are what cause type 2 diabetes, and bad fats can also cause a person to be overweight.

Thus the statistical correlation is not a "causal" relationship, but rater a "common cause" relationship. It is extremely rare when a scientist discusses "common cause" statistical correlations because they get paid to sell drugs. Let me repeat: being overweight does NOT cause type 2 diabetes.

Here is more information about what really causes type 2 diabetes:


•"Another lipid in a cell wall is cholesterol. And you thought it was a terrible thing. The cholesterol in each one of your cells forms a "hydrophobic" bond within the cell wall. Hydrophobic means "fear of water." It’s a cute way to describe this function of our cells, but in our lives it simply describes the reason we don’t melt in a rainstorm or fall apart when we take a shower or bath. Our cells resist water. Without this resistance, we would be water-soluble and we'd all dissolve in a rainstorm.
Our diets in this country (and in Budwig’s country at the time) lack these highly unsaturated fatty acids and contain an excess of man-made oils known as trans fats (or partially hydrogenated oils). These oils are very much like cholesterol and our bodies cannot tell the difference. These oils get into our cell walls and destroy the electrical charge. Without the charge, our cells start to suffocate. Without the oxygen, the only way the cell can replicate is anaerobically. (They also are very tough oils and have a 20-year shelf life. They impede the process of cellular exchange, or letting nutrition in and letting wastes out. Trans fats are also responsible for Type II diabetes, since insulin is a very large molecule it has a difficult time passing through a cell wall created with man-made fats and not cholesterol.)"
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig.htm

In other words, trans-fatty acids attach themselves to the cell walls, and because they are a different type and shape of molecule, make the cell walls "rigid," and the large glucose molecules cannot penetrate the cell walls and get into the cells.

Here is a more detailed way to explain it (taken from an email from a medical doctor):


•"Insulin binds with a cell wall receptor that causes a transport molecule to come to the wall and escort the glucose/ascorbate to where it is needed. The trouble is that it can't easily come through a port made of the wrong fatty acids. The cell may still have some good ports so increasing insulin will still help. Over time as the body continues to store excess glucose as triglyceride in fat cells and doesn't burn fat the person becomes obese--just look around you, it's everywhere.
Most diets are low-fat and the fats they do contain are bad fats and the problem just gets worse."

Type II or Type 2 diabetes is one of the rare diseases that is not caused by a microbe or impurities in vaccinations. It is caused by our diet of "bad fats" and the lack of "good fats" in our diet.

These same bad fats cause heart disease and many cases of people being overweight.

In other words, the same bad fats cause three major health problems:
1) Type 2 diabetes,
2) heart disease,
3) many cases of being overweight.

There are many other things these molecules cause as well.

The medical community, having no interest in what causes disease, claims that type 2 diabetes causes heart disease. This is partly true, but most of their statistical correlation is caused by the fact that both of them are caused by the same thing - the ratio of bad fats to good fats.

If a person were to simply avoid the trans-fatty acids and many other bad fats, eventually their type 2 diabetes would go away because as the bad cells (i.e. the ones with rigid fats on them) died, they would be replaced by new cells made of good fats (assuming there were good fats in your diet). However, this process would take several years since many cells live for multiple years.

However, there is a way to speed up the process. By avoiding the bad fats, and flooding your body with the right type of good fats, especially water-soluable omega 3, type 2 diabetes is very easy to cure. It generally takes 7-12 months (much less time if it is newly diagnosed).

It is absolutely critical to avoid ALL trans-fatty acids, ALL hydrogenated oils, ALL CANOLA OIL, ALL margarine and ALL other "bad fats" like the plague, because they ARE A PLAUGUE on humanity!!!


New Audio Files on Type 2 Diabetes
Since writing this article several years ago, a set of new audio files came out in late-2009 which was originally designed for cancer patients, but which includes information CRITICAL for type 2 diabetes patients!! These audio files explain in detail how to start being able to lower your insulin within a few weeks and how to get completely off of insulin (with your doctor's permission) in about 3 months! Two case studies are examined with details on how each patient cured their advanced type 2 diabetes.

These audio tapes, by cancer researcher Mike Vrentas, are worth their weight in gold for type 2 diabetes patients. They are available for download if you have broadband or are available as a CD set. They are five and a half hours of critical information.

Mike's treatment for type 2 diabetes follows the same theory as this article, but his treatment uses far better supplements and works far faster than the cure on this web page!!

I would STRONGLY recommend that all type 2 diabetes patients use Mike's treatment for type 2 diabetes, but continue to study this website as well for supplemental information!! I do talk about a few subjects which Mike does not talk about in his tapes.

On Mike's website is a free 9 minute discussion about the audio files, but remember the CDs include all the information necessary to cure type 2 diabetes (i.e. get off of insulin):
Your Road to Health - Cellect/Budwig and More


The Cure for Type II Diabetes
By mid-2005, I had known for several months that there was a cure for Type II diabetes, and I knew a little bit about the cure, but I did not know all of the details. In mid-2005 I received an email from a medical doctor with enough details that I could put the cure online. Prior to sending the email to me he had his facts checked with a PhD who was familiar with the cure.

Here is the cure, taken from an email from the same medical doctor mentioned above:


•"I know you have the theory on this from some of the e-mails I sent you, but I finally got around to sending the cure to [a PhD who works at a medical clinic] who runs the lab at [medical clinic], and heads the dept. at [a university]. He confirmed it is true and had been around for some time now. The natural therapy will take several months to kick in after which you can flush the medications a person takes down the toilet and pronounce them cured so long as they continue eating right.
The cure is to eliminate partially hydrogenated oils and trans-fats [i.e. trans-fatty acids, such as is in margarine] from the diet. Replace these with natural oils such as flaxseed, olive oil, real butter, lard, any organic animal or plant fats, coconut oil, etc. Try to make omega 3/omega 6 ratio > 1 [i.e. consume more omega 3 than omega 6 - I would also add walnuts to his list of things with omega 3].

Cells cannot get glucose and also vit C inside when the walls are made by DuPont [the MD is a bit cynical]. You're not surprised are you? DuPont probably knew this 50 years ago. It takes 3-12 months for blood sugars to return to normal without any more drugs. This treatment is being done by the naturopathic docs in Phoenix. If you add an organic diet and vitamin c on top of this you will stop most heart disease and cancer. If a person would then only seek medical care for trauma or some surgical emergency, he will have eliminated the top 3 causes of death in the USA."

I personally find it amazing that few medical doctors tell their patients that the major cause of type 2 diabetes is man-made fats, such as trans-fatty acids, hyrogenated oils, canola oil, etc.

I cannot emphasize enough that you must take significantly MORE omega 3 than omega 6. You MUST monitor both items in your diet and supplements!!

It is important to understand that a person's diet generally contains more omega 6 than omega 3. Thus, when you buy an omega 3 supplement, it must be of the highest quality (certainly not a pill) and it must have a ratio of at least 3:1 of omega 3 to omega 6.

Think about why. If your diet has more omega 6 than omega 3, and if you need to intake more omega 3 than omega 6, then your supplements must contain at least a 3:1 ratio of omega 3 to omega 6.


Details of the Cure
NOTE: Each time you make a batch of the Budwig Diet, consume it within 10 minutes so it does not deteriorate in potency. Also, do not add anything into the mixture until AFTER the cottage cheese and flax seed oil have completely mixed together.

Because the Budwig Diet Mixture is used for multiple diseases, a separate article has been written on how to make the Budwig Diet Mixture. Read this detailed article very carefully and keep referring to it. After reading it for the first time, come back to this article:
How to Make the Budwig Mixture

A diabetic should take at least 4 tablespoons of the flaxseed oil every day as part of their treatment. That is the minimum dose.

You can make one mixture twice a day or you can make one very large mixture once a day. It doesn't matter.

Remember to shake the bottle of flaxseed oil each time before you use it and remember to eat the mixture within half an hour after making it.

Also, do NOT use flax seeds or flaxseed cereal as part of the mixture (but they can be added after it is mixed). The whole point to making the Budwig mixture is to convert oil soluble omega-3 into water soluble omega-3 and this can only be done with oils.

When buying fish oils it is critical to make sure the oils do not have mercury and other heavy metals in it. That is why I endorse the high quality Norwegian products.

I need to mention some comments from the superb book: The pH Miracle for Diabetes, by the brilliant researcher Dr. Robert O. Young, PhD. On page 84 he mentions that the body converts alpha lipoic acid into forms of omega-3. On page 111 he recommends a ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 of 3:1 and he recommends borage oil (1,000 mg capsule three times a day) to get the omega-6 GLA (gamma-linolenic acid), LA (linoleic acid) and EA (erucic acid). That is good advice.


MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) - Another Critical Supplement
MSM is the key to making cell walls more elastic. The sulfur in MSM is necessary for the cell walls to return to normal.

However, you should NOT buy MSM unless it is absolutely guaranteed to have zero additives. Take at least 10 grams a day.

Here is an article on how to make MSM Water:
How To Make MSM Water


Some Highly Critical Supplements
My only additions to this treatment would be the following:

1) A REQUIRED supplement for anyone using omega 3 is one of its cofactors: vitamin B12. Two sources of B12 will be given, one a single cell plant, called chlorella, and the other a B12 supplement:
Free eBook on Chlorella and list of vendors
Endorsed vendor of B12 supplement

2) Six capsules of coral calcium (during the treatment), two in the morning, two in the afternoon and two in the evening. After the treatment, you can cut this dose in half. This should be 100% coral calcium (I prefer the Barefoot product), not a mixture of coral calcium and other forms of calcium.

3) A minimum of 10,000 I.U. of Vitamin D daily. This is absolutely required in order for your body to absorb the coral calcium.

4) Vitamin C. Take at least 3 grams a day, but after a couple of weeks gradually move it up to 6 grams a day. Vitamin C should be taken in the form of mineral ascorbates, such as sodium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc. Here is a highly recommended vendor:
Buffered Vitamin C Product

5) Cinnamon - at least 1/2 teaspoon a day, which is critical to "soften" the cell membranes. Cinnamon mimics insulin, thus it may lower your need for insulin immediately.

6) A top quality liquid ionic vanadium product, which will also help the cell membranes. It also mimics insulin and will reduce your need for insulin.

7) A top quality liquid ionic chromium supplement to help the pancreas have the nutrients it needs to make insulin.

All of the items, except for the Vitamin B12, vitamin C and chromium, are added to help your cell membranes.

The liquid ionic vanadium, the liquid ionic chromium and a high quality chlorophyll "green drink" product can be purchased at:
Essense of Life


Important Enzymes
For type 2 diabetes patients who have circulatory problems, it is important to take an enzyme supplement to help treat the symptoms of type 2 diabetes.

While the above treatment will cure your diabetes, you may have more immediate needs related to the side-effects of having diabetes.

It is important for such patients to study the "Type 1" diabetes article for critical information about treating the dangerous symptoms of diabetes.

Here is the article:
Type 1 Diabetes Article (for treating the symptoms of diabetes)


Two Highly Recommended Books
Here are two highly recommended books on diabetes:

First: The pH Miracle for Diabetes : The Revolutionary Diet Plan for Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetics, by Robert O. Young, PhD

Second: Infectious Diabetes is by Doug Kaufmann and David Holland, M.D.

These are new books that EVERY diabetic should study and apply in their lives!!


Comments About Cinnamon
Dr. Richard A. Anderson, at the Human Nutrition Research Center (USDA), found that people who eat apple pie have a significantly lower probability of getting Type II diabetes. Upon further examination, he isolated cinnamon as the substance in the apple pies that was preventing the diabetes. Within cinnamon, the key substance is called: methylhydroxychalcone polymer (MHCP):


•"Dr. Anderson discovered that MHCP can stimulate glucose uptake by our cells. It can even help in the synthesis of glycogen, a polymer of glucose that our bodies produce as a means of storing energy for later use, when it is depolymerized back to glucose. Most of our glycogen is found in the liver, but some is found in our muscles - a handy place to be when we start exercising and need quick energy. Producing adequate amounts of glycogen is a principal function of blood sugar metabolism, and MHCP can help.
Dr. Anderson says that MHCP has effects similar to those of insulin and works almost as well. Both of these substances work by chemically modifying our cells' insulin receptors in a manner that activates them to do their job, which is to allow glucose molecules to pass through the cell wall into the insulin cascade--the series of molecular events triggered by insulin's interaction with its receptor-is also triggered by MHCP. He also discovered that when MHCP and insulin act together, the effect is synergistic, i.e., the total effect is greater than the sum of its parts."
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/issue118/item8.shtml

While this is published information, orthodox medicine does not encourage people to eat cinnamon as a prevention measure for type 2 diabetes. Nor do they mention that type 2 diabetes is caused by trans-fatty acids and other bad fats. Nor do they tell people what the best diet is for type 2 diabetes patients. Nor do they tell people how to cure their type 2 diabetes."

[jimj_wpg]

Iodine is the cure for me...

Iodine capsule - once per day.

Iodine drops - a few a day.

Today I had the first normal pee coming out of me in YEARS.

Since 1997 when my bladder fills I feel lots of pain in my front lower left side is - near where my kidney/large intestine is, instead of normally feeling the pressure coming from just above my dick.

In the past years I tried everything... switching from white to whole wheat, drinking more water (buying distilled water), going veggie, buying Flax Seed Oil capsules... Eating apples more often...Nothing ever seemed to HEAL the pain in my lower left side. In 1998 when it was checked out (x-rayed) all they said was for me to eat more Fibre...Nothing about LOW Thyroid....NOTHING AT ALL TO EVEN SUGGEST IT MIGHT BE CAUSED BY A LOW (DEPLETING) THYROID....

Well, thirteen years later, after "battling" Type 2 Diabetes for the past 5 years, worrying my Mom literally to Death, worrying my Supervisors and my co-workers -- coming in frequently LATE to work because it was sooo hard to get up and motivate myself to wake up in enough time to clean myself up, feed the cats, eat some breakfast, and get out to the bus stop so I can get to work ON TIME....

No one, in the past 5 years +...ever said ANYTHING ABOUT LOW THYROID that could be the cause of ME BEING TIRED A LOT OF THE TIME....Even my Dad was being negative by saying "You're diabetic because you eat too much sugar" Even he said to me the other day "When I was going to school (in the 1930s/1940s) they would give us Iodine"... So where was MY IODINE supplement at home or at school when I was growing up and by 1985 (age 19) was already feeling less energetic??????

My oh my!

[jimj_wpg]

I have a question about what ingredient is in the Metformin pill that normalizes a person's waste output ... specifically #2.

If I am off of the Metformin, after a few weeks all I go is pee....every hour or so, 10 or more times a day, and that is VERY hard on the kidneys. During my last Reiki session (Tuesday) I could sense my left kidney communicating that it is so worn that it is crying to be replaced and the Reiki healer was saying that that kidney (where she put her hands near) says is overworked.

The apple cidar vinegar does help but it's not the greatest tasting I agree. I need to take it 4 times a day or I start peeing waaay too much. It does help reduce the pee amount but the #2 is still not getting out/being produced.