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verndewd
24-06-2010, 06:42 PM
This is for everyone whining about government.

The problem isnt government its you.
Dont you think its a little audacious that you expect a piece of paper to secure your liberties without you defining those parameters and the rest of society doing the same instead of so called law makers?

Obviously any bill of rights is a negotiable contract by the simple idea that it is open to interpretation, so who is doing the interpreting ? the populace?

Just this morning I hear dad saying the government this and the government that and I said its not the government its the people. When we define the parameters what are they going to do? They have to play along.

We cry about all of these offenses yet fail to hold our own lack of unified insistance accountable for the offenses. if we dont act in one accord to secure our rights and liberties we will have none, its not a prediction its a deduction of the obvious.

the first government is in the self and the failure to self govern is the failure to have representatives rather than oligarchal tyrants. The failure begins and ends with the populace. We empower the paper and do nothing to keep redefining principals for each generation, then, when our rights are expectedly negotiated to prisoner status we cry and blame others.

Well, not me. I see the truth; were in the state were in because we chose to become codependant and give our power to papers that can be defined in a myriad of ways that extinguish existential rights and liberties.

The solution is simple, small groups writing declarations of the definitions of charters on rights and liberties and creating small groups around their country doing the same until a massive charter on the definition of rights is manifested by everyone and handed to these usurpers.

You want to set them back on their heels and make them reverent to the power of the masses? start with this. When a populace dictates policy the representatives will feel as though the hand of god has struck him fairly in the mouth and mind.

We are the deciding factor in everything on earth ! WE make the decisions and laws. We outnumber these toads by massive percentages.

The idea is simple, if you want to change the government , just do it.

justin_pushka
24-06-2010, 06:53 PM
We do outnumber them true. But they have guns and tanks and all manner of torture devices so ill be damned if im getting into a fight. The problem is that while we outnumber them we cant agree with each other and we dont move as one people. The reason for that is what theyve done to us. Thats why people complain. Unfortunately all we can actually do is complain complain complain until everyone is complaning and we can just all agree to walk away on mass. Any attempt at violence wont work and is what they want so they can justify even more draconian laws to ristrict us. people need to come together and ignor government on mass they then wont be able to do anything they cant rule those who dont want to be ruled. The uk is actually getting this too. the number of non voters outnumbers the votes that got cameron in. Just stop voting and stop complying it needs to be over 50% and it needs to be global because one country that escapes rulership will then just get invaded. Global awakening or tyrany thats where we are at. The good news tho is just as its hard to get 6 billion people to walk away its just as hard to get em to submit.

verndewd
24-06-2010, 07:30 PM
We do what we need to do or were all facing guns anyway. All we need to do is establish our rights. There is no justifiable excuse for not doing so.

In the words of jim morrison " no one gets out alive" You can go out a hero or a zero.

level42
25-06-2010, 08:52 PM
I think the problem is we need everyone to come together,one man I fear is not enough,you just get trodden on.:D United we stand and all that.

cosmo1
25-06-2010, 10:07 PM
I think the problem is we need everyone to come together,one man I fear is not enough,you just get trodden on.:D United we stand and all that.

It's never going to happen.
The human race is just too diverse; look at this forum where one thinks the majority of the people are 'awake' or 'enlightened' :rolleyes:.
Look at all the crap that goes on here; same old stuff as the 'real world'.

As justin_pushkin said earlier "The problem is that while we outnumber them we cant agree with each other and we dont move as one people."