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mynameis
19-10-2007, 04:12 PM
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EU leaders agree new treaty deal
EU leaders after a group photo at the summit in Lisbon
The treaty will be formally signed by European leaders in mid-December
European Union leaders have reached a deal on a landmark treaty to reform the 27-member bloc, officials say.

The agreement in Lisbon was sealed shortly after midnight after objections from Italy and Poland were overcome.

The treaty is designed to replace the European Constitution that was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005 and will be formally signed on 13 December.

It includes the creation of a new longer-term president of the European Council and an EU foreign policy chief.

If what will become known as the Treaty of Lisbon is ratified by all member states, it will come into force in 2009.

National pride

After seven hours of talks, EU leaders emerged embracing and slapping each other on the back in sheer relief that the most serious crisis in the bloc's 50-year history seemed to be over, the BBC's Oana Lungescu in Lisbon says.

In the last-minute negotiations, Italy gained an extra seat in the future European Parliament, returning it to parity with the UK and restoring Italian national pride, our correspondent says.

Poland secured a guarantee that small groups of countries would be able to delay EU decisions they do not like - a victory for the Polish government just days before Sunday's early parliamentary election, she adds.


With this treaty, Europe is showing that the European project is on the move - now we can look forward to the future with confidence

Earlier, Austria reached a deal over its bid to maintain quotas for foreign students, with the European Commission agreeing to suspend for five years its legal action over the country's quota.

Bulgaria also won the right to call the EU single currency the "evro", rather than euro, in its Cyrillic alphabet.

The new Reform Treaty is designed to speed up decision making in the expanded European Union. It will also create a new president of the European Council, a new EU foreign affairs chief, a reformed voting system and scrap vetoes in dozens of areas.

However, the 250-page document has been stripped of any trappings of a super-state, such as the mention of the EU anthem and flag.

It amends, rather than replaces, existing EU treaties, a point which some countries - notably the UK - have argued means there is no need for national referendums on the document.

'Great achievement'

After the agreement was reached, Jose Socrates, the prime minister of Portugal, which holds the rotating presidency, said Europe had emerged from an "institutional crisis".

EU flag
The UK government says the treaty respects Britain's "red lines"

"With this treaty, Europe is showing that the European project is on the move. Now we can look forward to the future with confidence," he added.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the treaty was a "great achievement".

"I believe we have a treaty that will give us now the capacity to act," he said.

"Our citizens want results. They want to see in concrete terms what Europe brings them in their daily lives."

The UK government had little to say in Friday's negotiations.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK's "red lines", which his government had declared around various policy areas, had been secured.

"The British national interest has been protected," he added.

On Thursday, Mr Brown once again ruled out a referendum on the treaty.

Despite pressure in the UK and several other countries for a popular vote, only Ireland is legally bound to hold a referendum, and most governments will do what they can to avoid another embarrassing failure, our correspondent Oana Lungescu says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7051999.stm

celtic isis
19-10-2007, 04:38 PM
EU leaders agree new treaty deal
EU leaders after a group photo at the summit in Lisbon
The treaty will be formally signed by European leaders in mid-December
European Union leaders have reached a deal on a landmark treaty to reform the 27-member bloc, officials say.

The agreement in Lisbon was sealed shortly after midnight after objections from Italy and Poland were overcome.

The treaty is designed to replace the European Constitution that was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005 and will be formally signed on 13 December.

It includes the creation of a new longer-term president of the European Council and an EU foreign policy chief.

If what will become known as the Treaty of Lisbon is ratified by all member states, it will come into force in 2009.

National pride

After seven hours of talks, EU leaders emerged embracing and slapping each other on the back in sheer relief that the most serious crisis in the bloc's 50-year history seemed to be over, the BBC's Oana Lungescu in Lisbon says.

In the last-minute negotiations, Italy gained an extra seat in the future European Parliament, returning it to parity with the UK and restoring Italian national pride, our correspondent says.

Poland secured a guarantee that small groups of countries would be able to delay EU decisions they do not like - a victory for the Polish government just days before Sunday's early parliamentary election, she adds.


With this treaty, Europe is showing that the European project is on the move - now we can look forward to the future with confidence

Earlier, Austria reached a deal over its bid to maintain quotas for foreign students, with the European Commission agreeing to suspend for five years its legal action over the country's quota.

Bulgaria also won the right to call the EU single currency the "evro", rather than euro, in its Cyrillic alphabet.

The new Reform Treaty is designed to speed up decision making in the expanded European Union. It will also create a new president of the European Council, a new EU foreign affairs chief, a reformed voting system and scrap vetoes in dozens of areas.

However, the 250-page document has been stripped of any trappings of a super-state, such as the mention of the EU anthem and flag.

It amends, rather than replaces, existing EU treaties, a point which some countries - notably the UK - have argued means there is no need for national referendums on the document.

'Great achievement'

After the agreement was reached, Jose Socrates, the prime minister of Portugal, which holds the rotating presidency, said Europe had emerged from an "institutional crisis".

EU flag
The UK government says the treaty respects Britain's "red lines"

"With this treaty, Europe is showing that the European project is on the move. Now we can look forward to the future with confidence," he added.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the treaty was a "great achievement".

"I believe we have a treaty that will give us now the capacity to act," he said.

"Our citizens want results. They want to see in concrete terms what Europe brings them in their daily lives."

The UK government had little to say in Friday's negotiations.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK's "red lines", which his government had declared around various policy areas, had been secured.

"The British national interest has been protected," he added.

On Thursday, Mr Brown once again ruled out a referendum on the treaty.

Despite pressure in the UK and several other countries for a popular vote, only Ireland is legally bound to hold a referendum, and most governments will do what they can to avoid another embarrassing failure, our correspondent Oana Lungescu says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7051999.stm

great post mynameis :)

i know and the worst thing is anyone i email with this you know what they'll do? Completely ignore it. :mad:

Once the UK/ Britain has fully come into the EU then you will really see the effects of the European Dictatorship. I mean you don't even have the one currency, it's ruined everything. I hate europe. We're really screwed. People are so distracted they don't even see that their bloody voices or more importantly their VOTE don't count one bit!!!!!

it pains me! i don't know though i'm worn out trying to get through to people...what's your experience mynameis? Regarding the sheeple amongst us i mean.
Just to say i don't know if you're in the UK or not so i wasn't referring to you personally up there!

celtic isis
19-10-2007, 04:43 PM
there's some interesting articles posted on this website (links below) if you want to take a look, it's a site trying to keep the freedom of speech alive in Europe.

I posted it on this thread already, bilderberg is really shaping how things are going in the EU and this proves it:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11752

The Dark roots of the EU

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/542

‘post-national, non-identity’ state

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2362

Nations Under Construction: Defining Artificial States

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1113

Basically the elite know what's good for the people, the people themselves do not. :rolleyes: Never more so than in Europe.

mynameis
19-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Thank you, Ms. Isis.

;)

celtic isis
19-10-2007, 05:38 PM
Thank you, Ms. Isis.

;)

hehe you're welcome! i'm trying to put something to email but jeez i know they won't damn read it!

:rolleyes::)

dondaz
19-10-2007, 07:19 PM
This is bad news. So how do we stop them going ahead and signing in december?

Anyone got any dirt on Gorden Brown?

mynameis
19-10-2007, 07:25 PM
Well Ms. Isis, the economies of Europe and England don't mix well together. The EU is the most bureaucratic monstrosity ever to be created, that gives no votes to the people it's under, while whipping and stealing is done by the elites at the top. I wonder when the EU corruption will start coming out more than it already has in the United Nations. EU laws override all laws over all countries in its grip. I would rather more people know what's coming and being informed. I only know a few are awake about the EU and EUCFR, besides the boards I visit, here in the United States.

majicdragon
20-10-2007, 04:16 PM
hehe you're welcome! i'm trying to put something to email but jeez i know they won't damn read it!

:rolleyes::)

Make it a picture story with titles and story bits... they'll read some of it.

fremmenwarrior
21-10-2007, 01:52 PM
The BBC Politics Show - Sunday 21st October 2007.

David Blunkett MP stated that there is NO NEED for a public referendum on the EU Treaty and that is the stance the government will stick by.

I agree completely with what's been said about the potential dangers of the EU and the devastating 'dictatorial' effects this would have on British society in general.

Why have other country's in Europe all had a referendum on the EU treaty and yet UK politicians are browbeating us into accepting the EU and denying British people a voice? Because they know that we the people will say NO!

The BBC News recently asked its viewers to e-mail in a phrase that they thought summed up Britain and life in British society, in a few words:

"BETRAYED, BROWBEATEN AND BRAINWASHED!"

Betrayed by the government.
Browbeaten by the Police.
Brainwashed by the BBC...

celtic isis
21-10-2007, 04:36 PM
Make it a picture story with titles and story bits... they'll read some of it.

interesting...that's a good idea i hadn't thought of that majic! :)

celtic isis
21-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Well Ms. Isis, the economies of Europe and England don't mix well together. The EU is the most bureaucratic monstrosity ever to be created, that gives no votes to the people it's under, while whipping and stealing is done by the elites at the top. I wonder when the EU corruption will start coming out more than it already has in the United Nations. EU laws override all laws over all countries in its grip. I would rather more people know what's coming and being informed. I only know a few are awake about the EU and EUCFR, besides the boards I visit, here in the United States.

you're so right mynameis, it reminds me of what seanx said before, that it's amazing how ireland spent 800 years fighting for their (our) freedom from the english, who left irish people starving to death while they pinched the land from under them (us) yet ireland has given up all its 'hard won' freedom to the EU in only a couple of years...literally just given the country away lol The EU runs ireland now.

:eek:

it's so true. Not many realise it though cause of it happening so slowly apparently but it's happening faster and faster from where i'm looking and i'm sure for all of us "in the know"...the ordinary people don't realise the crooks that they are let alone that they're peddling us into a full blown dictatorship in the next few years.

argh!

Dondaz, i don't know what we can do...i was watching on tv here during the week with the train strikes here in france, all the people who banded together to get what they want (making life hard for us in the process) but liek to see the number of people in Marseille of all bloody places getting together like that, it was so intimidating to watch...they'll do it to complain about their jobs but they won't do it for our freedom, for our children's freedom. this is serious but they don't give a crap about it. ????

ah i don't know, what a waste of energy that could go to good use stopping the NWO!

celtic isis
21-10-2007, 04:48 PM
The BBC Politics Show - Sunday 21st October 2007.

David Blunkett MP stated that there is NO NEED for a public referendum on the EU Treaty and that is the stance the government will stick by.

The BBC News recently asked its viewers to e-mail in a phrase that they thought summed up Britain and life in British society, in a few words:

"BETRAYED, BROWBEATEN AND BRAINWASHED!"

Betrayed by the government.
Browbeaten by the Police.
Brainwashed by the BBC...

First quote :eek: my reaction! damn you David Blunkett, what a crook. he's a major NWO-er always signing off this act that act to steal even more freedom of speech from the people.

Betrayed by the government.
Browbeaten by the Police.
Brainwashed by the BBC... :D that's brill! that's good the public think that though! they may not know the whole details of everything the elite have done but at least they're grumpy...and realising it...slightly!