What 'Religion' geos the NWO really push?

[f13ticket]

Some people tend to think that the New World Order is Satanic and pushing Satanism. Others think that they are pushing Atheism. What is it?

Personally, I think Satanism [in most of its forms] is the wrong name for what the New World Order is. Christians, and I used to catch myself doing it before I researched more into Satanism, usually call the New World Order Satanists as that seems to be the traditional name for anyone doing evil.

There are two major schools of Satanism, from what basic research I have done. Those who see Satan as a deity, and those who see him as a symbol. There are some who see Satan is good for rebelling against a cruel Jehovah, and leading what might be called a mutiny of humans and angels against their corrupt creator. Many other Theistic Satanists work with what might be called the occult. But we should not just say, from my research, that occult is instantly evil. Both the Theistic Satanists and philosophical Satanists are champions, more or less, or individual liberties and freedoms. Some say there are some Satanists that are evil, but if that is true at all its a small amount compared to the rest of those that are openly Satanists.

I think the concept of gaining a monopoly of Spiritual knowledge, wisdom, power, and Godhood is far more Christian Jehovah like than Satanic.

So, is the New World Order pushing Judaism/Christianity, Satanism, or Atheism? Or do they just take the, "dark side," of everything and run with it? What do you think and why?

[kronoix]

From when I was a kid, I was the 'black sheep' of the catholic schools I went to, and also of the sunday schools I went to.

I was constantly told that god is good and all loving.

I remember asking once "If he is good and all loving, then why did he tell his followers to burn a village to the ground whilst killing even the children"

They told me that those people were evil for believing in false deities.

That just made me even further anti-christian.


All religions have roots somewhere, as the major stories can be found pretty much everywhere in different adaptations (e.g. The great flood in Noah's Ark)


However, I believe that a Jesus like figure DID exist, spreading messages of love and peace, but a few capitalised on that and warped it.

People started to worship the messenger, and not the message.

And now we have Christianity, which, judging by the bible, is full of evil and deception.

So I believe they are trying to push this modern christianity, because with the warped version being based on evil, people are giving energy to that evil.

[varteks]

Christianity.
Destroying other religion and cultures all around the world and they have already succeeded in most of that.new age cult is an offshoot of these people manipulating their followers even more but still pushes the same agenda.

[charliebad]

My question would be why has Christianity been flamed so much over the last few decades (media) and if truth be told persecuted since roman times (nero)? If God and Jesus were just 'outdated lies' then how come there's so much effort in pushing the occult image so far today? If evolution is fair then why's anyone bothered about ruining anothers religion? Life has no meaning, survival of the fittest and then we die..... The media pushes occult imagery through music and, tv and gaming on a huge scale, so perhaps my question in reply really is....if God and Jesus mean nothing, then why are so many places of power making an obvious effort to ruin His image and meaning? Someone/thing's trying hard to change thoughts and beliefs. I find it fascinating the amount of effort put in to push so called hidden agenda's or the occult, there's only one reasonable answer, they're hiding something and opposing something rarely known as truth??

[superearther]

im sure they have connections with bohemian grove. They are satanists
i believe. Not sure but they do have evil intentions

[varteks]

all secret societies link back to Vatican in some way and they are not some pagans practicing black magic and worshiping Satan to destroy this world.

if you look through history carefully how Christianity has infiltrated and taken down various religious sects you will understand where their practices come from.

[marpat]

I would think that if they wanted to distance people from spiritual empowerment and understanding then they would push material sciences that deny any form of extended consciousness, etc. If they push religion then you will inspire people to look beyond the limits of that religion, and when people have religious experiences outside of those boundaries then questions are asked, people get disgrunteled, etc.

[varteks]

I would think that if they wanted to distance people from spiritual empowerment and understanding then they would push material sciences that deny any form of extended consciousness, etc. If they push religion then you will inspire people to look beyond the limits of that religion, and when people have religious experiences outside of those boundaries then questions are asked, people get disgrunteled, etc.

don't they control our education system and push scientific establishments that supports their agenda?
atheists and few others believe that science explains everything but they fail to realize that most of these ideas were put out by the same people in control and humanity has to fight hard each and every step of its growth to liberate themself from these people.
material culture we have today is also a product of these people.

[f13ticket]

My question would be why has Christianity been flamed so much over the last few decades (media) and if truth be told persecuted since roman times (nero)? If God and Jesus were just 'outdated lies' then how come there's so much effort in pushing the occult image so far today? If evolution is fair then why's anyone bothered about ruining anothers religion? Life has no meaning, survival of the fittest and then we die..... The media pushes occult imagery through music and, tv and gaming on a huge scale, so perhaps my question in reply really is....if God and Jesus mean nothing, then why are so many places of power making an obvious effort to ruin His image and meaning? Someone/thing's trying hard to change thoughts and beliefs. I find it fascinating the amount of effort put in to push so called hidden agenda's or the occult, there's only one reasonable answer, they're hiding something and opposing something rarely known as truth??

I advocate the flip side in my answer. The powers at be have rode Christianity to the top at the very least in at the most created it. Jesus and the Christian God do not mean nothing. They are tools of Spiritual oppression and social control. Myself and those like me seek to overthrow this control peacefully for the sake of creating a new, correct way of looking at things.

So many people, as I have posted in other posts, see things in a dichotomy of Christianity or Atheism. They say bow down and lick Jehovah's boot, or you're stuck with survival of the fittest. Don't want that then? Well, start worshiping or burn.

That is not a complete spectrum of how the world works. Have you looked at Shinto? Have you looked at Native American traditions? Have you looked at Greece or Rome? Egypt? Have you looked at the many others? I don't know that answer, you do. But that's an answer I have to many. I have looked at many Spiritual and religious paths and recommend others do the same.

Christianity tends to call other paths tools of evil that should be avoided and condemned. So, Christianity is right and everyone else is wrong because Jehovah said so and he'll send his people to burn you if you disagree? Wow, what an open-minded enlightening fellow that has nothing to hide himself. (Sarcasm.)

Christianity, from my point of view and I welcome others to continue to respond with theirs, is tyrannical and domineering. And I see other people trying to overthrow them in a way of information and love. Most take a make an example of your life and put the information out there approach. I like that, but I also like to evangelize as I think putting the information out there may not be enough.

Christians are constantly talking up their God. I think other places should be constantly talking up the peaceful opposition to their God. I do not think we should be threatening people with eternal damnation, or push our views on people like many Christians do. Rather, I think we should debate gallantly in the circles of debate. If Christianity is the only voice talking, people may not know the rest of us exist.

[f13ticket]

im sure they have connections with bohemian grove. They are satanists
i believe. Not sure but they do have evil intentions

Is not Bohemian grove Canaanite? It is difficult because we have to define Satanism beyond the usual vernacular. Most Christians use Satanism as a catchall term to ham-handily labial as evil any Spiritual, Religious, or philosophical outlook that is not Christian. Usually on the terms that these other things promote a literal and or figurative self deification. Shinto allows you to become a kami (Japanese God/High Spirit) if you purify yourself to a high enough level. Christians would say that's the Japanese wanting to be God. They would say wanting to be God is sinful as that's what Satan wanted to do. So, they would call Shinto an evil tool of deception by Satan to trick humanity into wanting to be God. Sense many other Spiritual and Religious traditions has Self Deification as a goal, Christianity feels justified in calling them evil. Or, if it is a philosophy that speaks of human self empowerment, the same complain it leveled at them by the Christians. I see, as a matter of Spirituality that trickles down into religion, mythology, and philosophy, self deification as a right. I have my manifesto of this here, The Right to Self Deification.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121757

If we separate those who want to self deify and or self empower themselves [almost all and the vast majority of the Theistic and Symbolic Satanists as well as much of the New Age and Eastern Religion] from the elitists and those like them who want to hurt others; then that will tell us all a lot.

Not everyone who aspires to self deify do so at the expense of others. Shinto participants did not see killing the world as the way to become a kami. So the fact that someone wants to become a God itself does not make them evil.

Clearly the New World Order want to, Spiritually and or symbolically, become Gods. It is their way of going about it that is wrong. Keeping Spiritual and other knowledge away from the lower ranks [like Jehovah does] and destroying their enemies [like Jehovah commands his followers to do many times in the Bible.] Who looks more dangerous here, Jehovah or Satan? Further, who are the New World Order emulation more, Jehovah or Satan? Even more when you read what Satanists have to say about Satan.

[f13ticket]

I would think that if they wanted to distance people from spiritual empowerment and understanding then they would push material sciences that deny any form of extended consciousness, etc. If they push religion then you will inspire people to look beyond the limits of that religion, and when people have religious experiences outside of those boundaries then questions are asked, people get disgrunteled, etc.



don't they control our education system and push scientific establishments that supports their agenda?
atheists and few others believe that science explains everything but they fail to realize that most of these ideas were put out by the same people in control and humanity has to fight hard each and every step of its growth to liberate themself from these people.
material culture we have today is also a product of these people.

I think that they might be trying to ease people into Atheism for that reason. Or, perhaps more disturbing, Atheism and Christianity are the new Republican Party and Democrat Party of Religion. A two party religious system, one for the Spiritually aware and one for those not. One party, two mouthpieces, propping each other up.

It does seem this way, as many in America feel they are either religious and Christian or Scientific minded and Atheist. You try to talk with a lot of them about New Age, Easter Religion, Paganism, and so on; and they get this glazed over look in their eyes like they have no idea at all what you're talking about. Also, in many ways as Icke has pointed out, they are both opposames as they are both used as means of Spiritual suppression and social control. Watch [kinda the middle to end part of {really the whole thing is very interesting}] Ruled by the Gods by David Icke and he explain in detail how both Christianity and Atheism are used from Spiritual suppression and social control. It kind of hit me that they are the two party system of the religion sphere.

I'm thinking of possibly sporting a form of Theistic Satanism for myself and as a tool to help wake up others. Anything that says Hail Satan in a room of Christians usually still turns heads in America and gets people attention. I can then explain to them other forms of thought in conjunction and perhaps wake them up to some larger world view.

After all, what did he do? He rebelled against Jehovah, inspired one third of the angles to join him, and in the garden of Eden invited humanity to join him. And join him to do what? Eat the apple of knowledge and wisdom from the tree of life, to be like God, to self deify. That's why he was cast out of Heaven, because he wanted to become a God and raise his thrown higher than the corrupt Jehovah. So, in that view, Satan is really the good guy standing up for self deification and freedom. He was then cast down and vilified by lies by a monopolistic Jehovah that wanted to rule the world and existence in oppression for himself.

Many Satanists seem to go with the occult from my readings. Then, again, occult is not instantly evil.

"Occultism is the study of occult or hidden wisdom. To the occultist it is the study of "truth", a deeper truth that exists beneath the surface: "The truth is always hidden in plain sight"." - Wikipedia.

So, the occultist is looking for the occult, the truth. The truth that is right in front of us, that we are not recognizing. Perhaps the truth many are not recognizing is that Christianity is a very large and organized force of evil in this world.

Again, these are my views and I welcome others to contribute theirs.

[eternal_spirit]

What religion has had the most bulidings of prayer built recently? Well in the Uk it's Islam. Although that's not due to conversions but mass immigration and demographics.

Overtly and covertly it is going to plan as commanded by Muhammad to spread Islam until it rules the world.

Don't have to look far to find quotes from Muslims such as Europe will fall to Islam without a shot being fired, get it yet?

Is the greatest conspiracy I stumbled upon after doing the a to z of eveything "conspiracy."

Look what's going on in various countries and continents even in China Islam is growing fast.

[f13ticket]

What religion has had the most bulidings of prayer built recently? Well in the Uk it's Islam. Although that's not due to conversions but mass immigration and demographics.

Overtly and covertly it is going to plan as commanded by Muhammad to spread Islam until it rules the world.

Don't have to look far to find quotes from Muslims such as Europe will fall to Islam without a shot being fired, get it yet?

Is the greatest conspiracy I stumbled upon after doing the a to z of eveything "conspiracy."

Look what's going on in various countries and continents even in China Islam is growing fast.

True, and it is also of the Abrahamic religions. (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.) Much of their thoughts and practices are shared. And, as Icke has said, they are opposames not opposites. There is a very interesting passage on page 11 of chapter 2 of I am Me I am Free.