Selling one's soul... How?

[thesloth]

This is prompted by the other thread in these forums on celebrities selling their souls for fame.

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?

I'd like to do just that for lots of money, so that I don't have to be miserable anymore. Why is it wrong to do it if it makes one's existence comfortable? I could (hypothetically) have more money and I could use it to help others.

[dedicate]

I don't think it's something one should be selling tickets to. Not during these times. Maybe do the best with what you got, and the devil be damned.

[krakhead]

Nice try but we're not looking for any more moderators right now...

;)

:D

[shadowmoon]

Having lots of money doesn't really make you happy.

You could feed the poor with your money, but there will always be another mouth to feed tomorrow. when the money is gone and your soul is sold, now what?

If you draw up a circle first you could approach the satan/devil figure and sell your soul, but... it hardly seems worth it to me.

A few short years of materialism, for a longer ride on the wheel of births and deaths. or the eternity of Christian hel.?

[thesloth]

Having lots of money doesn't really make you happy.

This is the biggest lie perpetrated by the wealthy. It gets mindlessly repeated and accepted as the truth.

Money is the most powerful mechanism of control. Lack of money makes one a slave to the people who do have money. Being happy has nothing to do with whether one has money or not. These are two completely unrelated things. Money is what sets you free. Money is not only about materialism, though that is one common aspect of it. Many wealthy people are really not "materialistic". They really don't need to "buy" anything; they don't have to make such decisions. "Materialism" is purely a middle-class thing.

[ambler1980]

This is the biggest lie perpetrated by the wealthy. It gets mindlessly repeated and accepted as the truth.

Money is the most powerful mechanism of control. Lack of money makes one a slave to the people who do have money. Being happy has nothing to do with whether one has money or not. These are two completely unrelated things. Money is what sets you free. Money is not only about materialism, though that is one common aspect of it. Many wealthy people are really not "materialistic". They really don't need to "buy" anything; they don't have to make such decisions. "Materialism" is purely a middle-class thing.

Took the words right out of my mouth...money is just a form of energy exchange, it gives you the energy to attract the energy you want (as in "things"), but you could attract the same energy without money. You don't necessarily need money to get the things you want...money is just the most obvious way to do it. The people who say money doesn't buy happiness probably never had much. Money does nothing but provide ease of access. If all your cares of the world are gone, your true nature comes forth. If you're truly a miserable prick at heart, you will become a prick...if you're truly a happy person, you will become happy. The money is not the issue, it's what comes about when it's available to you.

as far as selling your soul to the devil...there is no devil...he's a construct...what you're really doing is making a pact with interdimensional beings (reptilians) who control this world...if you fuck around with them, they will see to it you're dealt with.

[ming the merciless]

"Selling your soul" nowadays means selling all your principles out.

John Prescott is a good example.

[thesloth]

"Selling your soul" nowadays means selling all your principles out.

You are right of-course... but I was thinking of a more passive kind of an arrangement. Sell one's soul and wait for the devil or something to do the job of getting the money. Selling out one's principles is not so much fun as one has to do all the work.

[bendoon]

This is prompted by the other thread in these forums on celebrities selling their souls for fame.

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?

I'd like to do just that for lots of money, so that I don't have to be miserable anymore. Why is it wrong to do it if it makes one's existence comfortable? I could (hypothetically) have more money and I could use it to help others.

They find out sooner or later that money can't buy hapiness and then regret it, thats why so many of them commit suicide

[thesloth]

They find out sooner or later that money can't buy hapiness and then regret it, thats why so many of them commit suicide

Are there any statistics or data to demonstrate that suicide rate among the filthy-rich is greater than the spotlessly-clean poor?

Once again, money has nothing to do with happiness. However, lack of money leads to slavery.

[choice]

You people speak of being rich as if it means spending 11 months holiday in the Bahamas. That´s not being rich, that´s being a whore for a rich guy, or the daughter of one.
«Poor people» may be slaves to a rich boss, but a rich boss is slave to a bigger power machine.

[oscify]

I had to fuck a goat in the ass and slit its throat, but its different for everyone

[ashangel]

However, lack of money leads to slavery.

Not really no, money is slavery it always has been since its inception, I have fuck all and am really quite happy and free, If you are not happy now money won't fill that empty hole and moneys runs out eventually. Afterwards the hole will still be there.

Selling your soul for money is just a metaphor for having a regular job anyway or to put it another way letting someone else decide your fate. That is why you see so many living dead roaming the streets.

[savannah]

I had to fuck a goat in the ass and slit its throat, but its different for everyone
lol



You cannot sale your soul..it does not belong to you. You are the vessel that holds a spirit of light.
However, some do say that some of us are born with a dark soul some with a light soul. If your soul is already dark..he may already own it. :)

[blackstar76]

I think you may need more than a soul. You will need to be in a position of power or on the verge of power. A poor soul is of no use to him. He needs you to be able to help him brainwash and control people. To create havoc and fear. Even if he let you win the lotto your cash flow will not be enough to create evil on a grand scale. You will still be considered poor by the real people with real money and power.

[loveisthelaw]

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?


try ebay.

[apollo_gnomon]

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?
I disguised mine as a crappy old alarm clock and listed it on ebay. I got 6 bucks.
http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ApolloGnomon/IMG_1493.jpg

[froid]

My current belief is the thing we call a soul is really some kind of cosmic energy we borrow at birth, and release back into the universe at death. You don't own this energy, therefore you can't sell it (and there is no devil who would buy it).

[forrest22]

You can't sell your soul to the devil in this lifetime. you have to be born in certain families...

believe me they are suffering they can't sleep ..

remember the matrix reloaded movie when the oracle told Neo '' you didn't come here to make a choice .you've already made it, now you have to understand why you made it"

[cultofexperience]

You have to go to the Crossroads and he will meet you there.

Each different god has a different crossroad, maybe two rivers crossing. Two roads crossing. Think of the cross - where spirit meets matter. That kind of sounds like our bodies... where spirit meets matter.

But in an everyday kind of way, we come to the crossroads all the time. Many times a day. We have choices to make. Do I go this way, or do I go that way?

Every time I make a decision that is against what I believe or who I am, I give up a little more of my soul.


However, as the other poster mentioned - you always have the option of anal goat rape. That seems to be the preferred method for the types you want to emulate.

[meksar]

Make an oath of the Baphomet and play a submissive pawn to a higher authority figure for money, sex or so called spiritual empowerment. Selling your soul is basically making yourself part of a secret cult which will kill you or persecute you if you try and become a decent person again. It is happening everywhere nowadays and is no longer just a old boys club as more women are doing it also. I would strongly recommend that people stay the hell away from these satanic cults and be extra vigilant of new age and or false spiritual cesspits which hide the Baphomet behind benevolence. Also you see a lot of religious cults pushing the Baphomet agenda with homosexual and pedophile frauds everywhere. It doesn't matter where you go you these days will find or be able to detect some form of Satanism either openly or behind closed doors.

The main thing that the oath of the Baphomet involves are blood sacrifices and sexual depravity, it doesn't even have to be someone who is a family member or a good friend it could be a mere acquaintance. I personally believe when you make the oath you do not stand there and choose who is going be sacrificed it happens through a demon manipulated reality. With the sexual depravity it is about putting someone in a easily controllable position through sexual blackmail to get them to do things or behave in ways they would not normally. It could be sleeping with a hooker or slapper when you have a wife or girlfriend at home, doing homosexual acts when most people believe you are straight and worst of all being involved in pedophilia when you are seen as a trustworthy and decent person. Many of your favorite musicians, actors, sports players are part of this madness and it can only used to break them down emotionally and mentally step by step. We all know that politicians, bankers, businessmen, judges etc are rife with corruption but when you see how people in the entertainment world have taken the oath you begin to see this is what the N.W.O want as global religion. A big silly "lets all love each other and Lucifer" cult to undermine any sort of healthy functioning society.

[nimbus]

Here's my personal understanding of it...

I don't see selling your soul as a obvious single major step in most cases.
I think it is more about the stance you take with your morals & what you are prepared to disregard or accept and is a slow process of erosion.

If you are a glamour model who decides to move into hard core porn then you are accepting payment for your services for something that you morally have to justify to yourself. The same goes if you are an arms dealer, international banker or BP chief executive. You don't get to be an international person of power in a few days and it is a gradual process where you have to erode your morals slowly over many years. If you don't want to leave your morals behind you can guarantee that there will always be someone who will so the ones with the least morals will always get to the top of an organisation because they will do anything to get there. It's all about the law of the jungle and the strongest surviving. You don't see the lion who takes control of a pride sparing the baby cubs of its predecessor because it is morally right to do so and in more subtle ways this lack of morals is what we witness every day in 'polite' society. Of course you have to then deal with who you are as a person so if you let your morals go if you slash & burn, rape & pillage you are not going to feel very good about yourself. You also find that people who behave similar stick together. So if you are a social climber willing to stab people in the back then your friends and wives/ husbands will be the same. Like wise if you spend time helping people build schools in Africa then your friends and boyfriends/girlfriends will have similar morals. The two groups would not be able to tolerate each other if they mixed.

Money doesn't make you happy but it does give you freedom & choices. Unfortunately the desire for money and power takes you down the route I have described above, scrabbling for power. Heaven & Hell are both here on Earth it is what you make it and losing your morals makes you less human and more animal and is the way that you sell your soul.... In my opinion.

[ellis_deatrip]

no honey without money:
(+comentary)

...money is just a form of energy exchange, it gives you the energy to attract the energy[pussy] you want (as in "things")[lots of pussy] , but you could attract the same energy without money[fat chicks]. You don't necessarily need money to get the things you want[not 'top shelf',just 'well'/name brand vs. generic,etc.] ...money is just the most obvious way to do it.[prison not a favorable form of sex] The people who say money doesn't buy happiness probably never had much[pussy]. Money does nothing but provide ease of access[isn't that the point?]. If all your cares of the world are gone, your true nature comes forth[horny]. If you're truly a miserable prick at heart, you will become a prick...if you're truly a happy person, you will become happy[happy=gay?]. The money is not the issue, it's what comes about when it's available to you.[satisfaction]
:eek:
Not disagreeing , just applying a hypothetical/metaphorical situation. Alot of ugly rockstars out there getting all kinds of play. It is them who usually get accused of "selling their souls", right?:D

[meksar]

Here's my personal understanding of it...

I don't see selling your soul as a obvious single major step in most cases.
I think it is more about the stance you take with your morals & what you are prepared to disregard or accept and is a slow process of erosion.

If you are a glamour model who decides to move into hard core porn then you are accepting payment for your services for something that you morally have to justify to yourself. The same goes if you are an arms dealer, international banker or BP chief executive. You don't get to be an international person of power in a few days and it is a gradual process where you have to erode your morals slowly over many years. If you don't want to leave your morals behind you can guarantee that there will always be someone who will so the ones with the least morals will always get to the top of an organisation because they will do anything to get there. It's all about the law of the jungle and the strongest surviving. You don't see the lion who takes control of a pride sparing the baby cubs of its predecessor because it is morally right to do so and in more subtle ways this lack of morals is what we witness every day in 'polite' society. Of course you have to then deal with who you are as a person so if you let your morals go if you slash & burn, rape & pillage you are not going to feel very good about yourself. You also find that people who behave similar stick together. So if you are a social climber willing to stab people in the back then your friends and wives/ husbands will be the same. Like wise if you spend time helping people build schools in Africa then your friends and boyfriends/girlfriends will have similar morals. The two groups would not be able to tolerate each other if they mixed.

Money doesn't make you happy but it does give you freedom & choices. Unfortunately the desire for money and power takes you down the route I have described above, scrabbling for power. Heaven & Hell are both here on Earth it is what you make it and losing your morals makes you less human and more animal and is the way that you sell your soul.... In my opinion.

I could not agree more, those who have symbolically sold their soul for money and power will be in for a rude awakening one day. This movie scene sums up how expendable the elites money whores are to them.

The Dark Knight - Joker Burns Money

The Dark Knight - Joker Burns Money (FULL) HQ - YouTube

[meksar]

masonic handshakes & jahbulon & baphomet

masonic handshakes & jahbulon & baphomet - YouTube

[codie]

I had to fuck a goat in the ass and slit its throat, but its different for everyone

:eek: :D

[burial]

I had to fuck a goat in the ass and slit its throat, but its different for everyone

Didnt work for me....but it was fun! :D

[loveisthelaw]

This is prompted by the other thread in these forums on celebrities selling their souls for fame.

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?

I'd like to do just that for lots of money, so that I don't have to be miserable anymore. Why is it wrong to do it if it makes one's existence comfortable? I could (hypothetically) have more money and I could use it to help others.

lol

[decode reality]

This is the biggest lie perpetrated by the wealthy. It gets mindlessly repeated and accepted as the truth.

Money is the most powerful mechanism of control. Lack of money makes one a slave to the people who do have money. Being happy has nothing to do with whether one has money or not. These are two completely unrelated things. Money is what sets you free. Money is not only about materialism, though that is one common aspect of it. Many wealthy people are really not "materialistic". They really don't need to "buy" anything; they don't have to make such decisions. "Materialism" is purely a middle-class thing.

Yes.

How many times have I seen people who have achieved material goals then turn around and say,' I'm only really doing this because I love it, not the money". Why can't they be honest?

I love having a bit of spare money to buy some clothes, a book, a CD, enough to fund my passion of music making. I've experienced life when I've had eviction threats, electricity/gas nearly cut off, walking around in the snow with shoes that have holes in the bottom, and it sucks. Saying that, I also know what it's like to have little money and to feel deeply content about being alive in that moment.

You can make lots of money without selling your soul. And you can't sell your soul anyway because the real you is hidden and can't be touched.

I recommend that the OP watches the film 'Bedazzled', starring Peter Cook and Dudley Moore. A funny but profound exploration of the subject. :) :cool:

[thevaleteruk]

Sorry for being late, is they soul still up for sale? whats your "buy it now" price ?

[luciferhorus]

This is prompted by the other thread in these forums on celebrities selling their souls for fame.

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?

I'd like to do just that for lots of money, so that I don't have to be miserable anymore. Why is it wrong to do it if it makes one's existence comfortable? I could (hypothetically) have more money and I could use it to help others.

If you wish to male a lot of money, then the best way to go about that is to pledge your soul to some Capitalist devil (just join the Masons); however you will also need to apply human will to the endevour, and this might include such things as an Capitalist education (the main subject for admission to the world of loan sharking is accountancy) or some form of technical expertise in a field where you can gain employment or customers.

Then you get to spend eternity with other Capitalist devils such as the Duke of Kent, allegedly. What fun.


I just wanted to add some notes to the "Pindar" thread in a new thread.

Selling one's soul to the Devil.
Lucifer 2010

http://amadeo.blog.com/repository/867425/2467572.jpg

"For every slave a master and for every master a slave."

The devotees of the God of Capitalism (i.e., the Devil) and the "Capitalist cults" and "cults of Capitalists (of which Freemasonry serves as a practical definition of these terms)" tend to be "Hierarchical" in nature. There is a generally a pyramid of power with many at the bottom and few at the top, and ultimately it would be unsurprising if there were not a singular "king of kings" who is humanity's "High Priest" of the god of Capitalism.

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Domination and submission.


"Bow down and worship me and I will give you the freedom of the kingdoms of the world"


Essentially "Abramelin Magic" which has been brought to mass attention by Crowley's HGA (Holy Guardian Angel) evocation represents the total anti-thesis (opposite idea) of "selling one's soul to a Devil." Of course the armies of the souls of heaven and hell are magically evoked (called upon); but it is one thing to "summon" the Devil and demand his attention and it is quite another to bind one's soul to him through sacred oaths, for this is the path of the spiritual submissive, not the spiritual dominant. The point of Abramelin Magic is "dominion;" the dominion of the magickian over the gods and goddesses; the ancestral spirits are merely summoned and commanded. It is the sacred and true will of the magickian which is paramount. By "sacred" will, I mean what a Deist would understand as "God's will;" however this is not separate from the will of humanity and there are 6 billion people here; "God's will" would thus have to do with the collective will of humanity and not merely the selfish needs of the individual magickian, for such motivation would not gain the respect of the gods, and would in all probability result in the eventual karmic judgement of the soul of the magickian and would no doubt only attract the attention of other selfish souls the like of himself or herself.

http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/magus.jpg


Freemasonry and Hierarchical cultism.

A problem with hierarchical cultism is that one can never be quite sure of who really is the "King of kings" of the cult, even if there is a Capitalist Devil (such as the Duke of Kent) who serves as the public face of the Grand Master of Masters. When one swears eternal oaths of obedience to a master in a cult of many masters, such masters themselves in a hierarchical organisation may look to the many below them as their slaves, but they will surely also themselves be slaves to those who are above them in their hierarchy, to whom they in turn have sworn eternal oaths.

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Insider Language

Cult "insider language" is often used which disguises this; for example in the Catholic faith, priests and priestesses (nuns) may refer to themselves as "brother" or "sister" but a study of the cult reveals a hierarchy of power, with many in the lower ranks and few at the top of the pyramid; most groups of devotees of the god of Capitalism operate this way, such as the army, the police, government, the aristocracy, corporate structures, almost all religions, etc. Catholics may refer to themselves as "brother" as if to allude to "equality," however as was the case with Ratzinger's purging of the liberation theology movement in Latin America particuarly, radicals such as the Boff brothers were chastised and threatened with excommunication for suggesting that Jesus was a Communist and inciting revolution; there is clearly a hierarchy of power and oaths of obedience are taken rather seriously. Similarly with Masonry; I don't see the point of swearing oaths if one is not expected to take them seriously, and frankly I cannot conceive of an Anarchist Communist, an anti-statist, anti-religionist, anti-propertyist and anti-Capitalist who supports war and revolution against Britain and America, climbing the ranks of Masonry and being considered an "equal" to the aristocratic military commander of the British state terrorists / narco-terrorists, the Duke of Kent.

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"No gods, no masters."

The soul who offers obedience to no person and no gods is thus free to pursue his or her own will; this is ultimately the agenda of the Anarchist (in terms of political - economic philosophy) and Thelemic (in terms of moral philosophy) revolutions of the present time and of the forthcoming Aeon. Thus "all" hierarchical social groups, such as governments and religions etc., which are not purely "technocracies" represent a stumbling block to human evolution, universal freedom and human equality. I make an exception with the use of the term "technocracy" since even in an Anarchist Communist world it would be folly for a medical professional to tell an engineer how to build a bridge, or for a civil engineer to perform a heart transplant; however this has nothing to do with the hierarchy of political, economic and religious power and authority; a modern, free, educated person should not have to sell their soul to Capitalist devil to have a tooth extracted or a bridge built.

LL

Lux
For blasphemy, heresy, revolution, etc.

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[heuer]

If you look at specific celebrities that mention selling their soul you'll find that most regret it. Eminem mentions 'I sold my soul to the devil, I'll never get it back' - Kayne West mentions 'I sold my soul to the devil, I know it was a crappy deal' (these are direct quotes).

You may have material wealth and comfort, but it will haunt you forever. Furthermore, assuming that you can sell your soul and a devil exists it begs the question what happens after life itself?

[consciousness]

The soul has a price ? :D
Giving your power away is just silly.... you should be empowered, not less powered.

[elpressiedente]

on ebay of course stupid

[fennellal]

200+ plus years ago, before there even was a middle class established, it was a case of those who had ! and those who had not !

People knew there place and walked the line given to them, without exception.

The People who had everything introduced with the advent of the Industrial Age "capitalism", which gave those who had nothing Positions & Jobs for Payment lifting them out of 18th and early 19th century squalor, War tends to help a lot aswell...

Over the last fifty years capitalism has been feeding only from Greed and Power thus giving many Low to Middle classes an Eye on something even better ! as everyone can achieve or so we are told ..

Communism has had the opposit effect and Keep the people in order, they know there place, and there is little to achieve for personal gaine but more for your Country & it leaders.

We may wish to sell our souls to the Devil but for What ?

If everyone is left to achieve what the wish for then Nobody would need to do anything, and we would all degrees into something very nasty I am sure.

[alphabet]

This is prompted by the other thread in these forums on celebrities selling their souls for fame.

How does one go about selling one's soul to the devil?

I'd like to do just that for lots of money, so that I don't have to be miserable anymore. Why is it wrong to do it if it makes one's existence comfortable? I could (hypothetically) have more money and I could use it to help others.

Be unlucky enough to have sold your soul already so that you can get picked for that Darren Brown show "trick or treat" and therefore the chance to post-sell your soul on camera. One way.

The way I avoided that.....

Invented an astrological system which can predict sports very accurately. Tipped for all these people who are interested in money from a random tips site, such as celebs/royals/sport players/managers.
Put up with all the excuses in the world why they could not pay in either celebrity escorts or financial terms, all while keeping on the straight road while all the rest of them CHEAT, steal, lie and generally make a mockery of the game by fixing what is already a very fixed sport (in astrological terms)

I stayed on the viewpoint that we are all equal, and treated these people as such. Rather than the gods they make themselves into by standing shoulder to shoulder on that perch with the rest of the cheats and liars.

In other words, I resisted.
To sell, I guess you don't resist.

Not really an office you can go to. Just a random action created by or for you. You do something worthy, it will be discovered in some way.

Basic way for men, and in particular women, to get into that circle is to sell your body for money. Sell what you have made/good at. What other people can USE you for. You could get picked up, spat out and USED in no time at all.


Comfort and helping others?
I hear some people can't get out of that type of exchange....a good worthy arty job, yet they have to sleep with people, as in escort type work. They apparently cannot talk about this, and neither talk about anything BAD that goes on. So, in other words: get used, beaten and raped - the police will unlikely help you, so I am told.

Worth it?

Do this, don't do that, or we will not do this/do that - make your life very difficult. Nice life high up on the perch.


Stick to my astrological gambling making money scheme. Get past the cheating and fixing in the sport, earn some money, mess around with dating, get pissed. Less pressure, much easier.

[j35p3r4d0]

last post was ego-fapping.

you didn't invent anything, you got reference pinching and spouted some hierarchy pose.



Whoever made this thread is topically relevant, but proposing how to do it directly is HIGHLY asinine.




"Self-respect and spirituality" is what i think this thread should have be entitled.

[j35p3r4d0]

really, whoever 'alphabet' is should take some time to learn his fucking ABC'S.



economyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy FAIL


Materialist Swine Knows Not His Delusion. Take that with your piss, Gimboid.

[alphabet]

on ebay of course stupid

Best reply so far.