Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes "Last Days" Documentary

[carnivalofsouls]

Ok. So first of all, I don't know if my following remarks have been mentioned in another thread, nor do I consider myself that great of a researcher, so as to say what I'm about to present is something new.

But, here's the thing. I just finished watching this "Last Days Of Left Eye" documentary, a 27 day "journal" of Lisa Lopes, the girl from TLC who was in a kind of downward spiral after the success of the 1999 TLC album. Lisa was always edgy, she was raised by a dad in the military (could that be a coincidence? MK ULTRA anyone?) and lately as she said in the documentary, she has been interested in numerology, life after death and other esoteric practices & views.

When she burnt her boyfriend's house, she said that once the flames were spreading she was mesmerised by them & at another point you see her playing with matches and staring at the fire, which struck me as kind of odd, not your usual pyro.

What really struck me as bizzare & got me worried is when she shows the crew her room at the place they were staying at the trip where she, family & friends had gone for her to reflect & shoot the documentary.

On the wall, she had painted this. The all-famous now "all seeing eye".

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab148/carnival_/Screenshot2010-06-22at001833.png

Without wanting to be disrespectful, I think she was actually programmed to die the day she died. She died on April 25, 2002. (NOTICE THE 25)

Aaliyah died on August 25, 2001 some months before. And MJ died on the 25th.

Anyway, in the last minutes of the documentary, you can actually see seconds before the crash. It looks like Lisa is fine one moment then something "clicks" and she's driving to her death.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab148/carnival_/Screenshot2010-06-22at001929.png

I don't know what to make of it but I don't think it's a coincidence. There are too many hints...:eek:

[sevensearcher]

surprised this has never been brought up before. i was a personal friend to lisa for many years and still communicate with her family.

lisa also had that symbol tatted on the top of her foot and also on her left earlobe.

what most ppl dont know also is that the night she learned that she was going to sign her record deal is the same night she received the call that her father had been murdered.

the morning everone learned of her death april 26 also happen to be tionne's (tboz) birthday.

right before lisa went on that retreat was the last time i had spoken to her.

[chrysoprase]

There are too many hints...

I think so, too. This is a very eerie documentary. I saw it a long time ago; but some things I remember is her lying on the bed and talking about carving words into her arm with a knife - and about a different personality that takes over her.

The cleansing diet seemed like she was trying to purge herself of something. And she had a dream the day of (I think) her death - where the sun was getting bigger and bigger and coming for her.

Also, the car crash before her own, where a little boy with last name of Lopez was killed. I can't remember if she saw the accident - but didn't she go to the hospital and sit with the parents?

The very last scene when she swerved the car, it was odd because it didn't look like she was avoiding an oncoming vehicle (as reported) - it looked like she intentionally drove off the road and into the ravine (and very calmly. too).


what most ppl dont know also is that the night she learned that she was going to sign her record deal is the same night she received the call that her father had been murdered.


I never knew that. That reminds me of the murder of Jennifer Hudson's family, somehow.

[carnivalofsouls]

[QUOTE=chrysoprase;1058987848] - it looked like she intentionally drove off the road and into the ravine (and very calmly. too). QUOTE]

I KNOW! Poor girl. By the 4th week you could tell something was wrong.

Her split personality was also an issue. She conceived another personality to blame for stuff she did wrong and she admits when the 2nd one refused to take responsibility for "her" actions she "invented" a 3rd one!

[lottie]

I know this seems a little off topic but stay with me!! lol!

I watched the channel 4 documentary last night 'Chasing the Cumbria Killer'... (derrick bird) at the end i was astonished by how many people said they didnt need to forgive Derrick for what happened that day as the person who did this was not Derrick, most were so shocked at such a dramatic shift in personality! It was as if he 'clicked' and changed personality! NOt saying it wasnt his body- but it wasnt percieved to be his soul that was capable of such mindless killings! It really shocked me... it was as if he was temporarily posessed...after the murders he turned the gun on himself!

Most of the deaths in the last few years are becoming more and more 'out of character' and apparently unprovoked.

[urbanmonk]

I think so, too. This is a very eerie documentary. I saw it a long time ago; but some things I remember is her lying on the bed and talking about carving words into her arm with a knife - and about a different personality that takes over her.

The cleansing diet seemed like she was trying to purge herself of something. And she had a dream the day of (I think) her death - where the sun was getting bigger and bigger and coming for her.

Also, the car crash before her own, where a little boy with last name of Lopez was killed. I can't remember if she saw the accident - but didn't she go to the hospital and sit with the parents?

The very last scene when she swerved the car, it was odd because it didn't look like she was avoiding an oncoming vehicle (as reported) - it looked like she intentionally drove off the road and into the ravine (and very calmly. too).

I never knew that. That reminds me of the murder of Jennifer Hudson's family, somehow.

Was she not involved in that? I never saw this documentary before but the way you mentioned she seemed to just go right off the road made me think the death of that child might also have been on her mind.

[chrysoprase]

I couldn't remember, urbanmonk, so looked for the info (she was in the car that killed the little boy).

The film also captured a car accident in which Lopes was a passenger and her assistant was the driver: "It was dark when the car driven by Lopes' assistant left the village. It is commonplace for people to walk the roads that wind through Honduras, and it's often difficult to see pedestrians."[27] "Ten-year-old Bayron Isaul Fuentes Lopez walked into the path of the van driven by Lopes' personal assistant. The child had been trailing after his sisters and brothers and stepped off the median strip at the last minute."[28] The boy was hit. "Lopes' party stopped and found the boy critically wounded. They loaded him into the car, and Lisa, ever the caretaker, cradled the dying boy's bleeding head in her arms. Someone gave him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation as they rushed him to a nearby hospital." Lopez died the next day and Lisa paid for his medical expenses and funeral.[29] Lopes is shown in a local funeral home choosing a casket for the child. Earlier in the documentary, Lopes mentioned that she felt the presence of a "spirit" following her, and was struck by the fact that the child killed in the accident shared her last name, even thinking that the spirit may have made a mistake by taking his life instead of hers. "And though her assistant was never charged with any wrongdoing, Lopes later compensated the family for their loss."[29] The program also showed the last minutes of Lopes' life, including her swerving off the road.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Lopes


I do remember that the boy's parents gave Lisa the shoes that he was wearing when he was killed.


I watched the channel 4 documentary last night 'Chasing the Cumbria Killer'... (derrick bird) at the end i was astonished by how many people said they didnt need to forgive Derrick for what happened that day as the person who did this was not Derrick, most were so shocked at such a dramatic shift in personality!

Her split personality was also an issue. She conceived another personality to blame for stuff she did wrong and she admits when the 2nd one refused to take responsibility for "her" actions she "invented" a 3rd one!

There is something unsettling about these "other" personalities.

I think in some cases they go beyond a coping mechanism that trauma victims adopt in order to survive. I can think of one very popular pop star (who I will not name because he is so beloved).. I believe this pop star had a ritual possession ceremony - that is on tape for anyone to see - where his crown chakra is opened up in order to invite possession.

[liebeohnehass]

chrysoprase:If you know the name then please give the name on that "famous popstar" you refer to.
+if it's on tape for everyone to see-why not post a link of it then?
..I'm sure we can handle it:)

[chubchub]

Does any one have a link for the full documentary ?

chrysoprase:If you know the name then please give the name on that "famous popstar" you refer to.
- Id like to see a link for that too :)

[nioz]

Does any one have a link for the full documentary ?


- Id like to see a link for that too :)

I would like to see that link too

[voel]

I would like to see that link too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7TKHGu3nGw

[gallifrey]

+1

[epiceyjahouse]

If you look at the video where she crash, you can see that she tries to steer away from a black object that crashes into the side of the road. You can see it for a few frames at the very end of the video.

0:34 in this video, keep an eye on the road for a black object, very hard to see but keep repeating and you'll see it.

Last Days Of Left Eye's Car Accident .flv - YouTube

[lottie]

Is there anything (articles/forensics etc) that state why the crash happened? did she swerve to avoid something? (i paused it at 34secs and think i saw something but its too difficult to tell.

[nioz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7TKHGu3nGw

not the left eye documentary, but the video which crysoprase talks about, a ´famous popstar´that does a posession ritual, crown chakra

[chrysoprase]

Me and my big mouth and unpopular theories:D

Let me gather my thoughts, antectodal evidence, the video, etc. and I will open a new thread - in a day or two - about the opening of the crown chakra and demon possession of a pop star.

I don't want to derail this thread because Lisa Lopes and the Last Days documentary discussion should continue unhampered.

I watched the video of the car accident and I see something that looks like it could be a dark vehicle, through the front window (mid-left) but it is not on the road - it is on the side of the road, while Lisa's car is still ON the road? She seems to swerve deliberately AFTER I see the dark object on the dead grassy area. Delayed reaction?? Or What??

What am I missing?

When I first saw this doc; I wondered why she wanted to hold the Coca-Cola tinbox. She had asked one of the rear seat passengers to pass it to her; and then she just held it awhile and passed it back to the rear seat.

But on rewatch - I notice the camera goes away from her awhile (while she is holding the box) and focuses on the backseat. Then we see her hand the box back to the backseat and the camera goes back to her.

Do you think her friend with the camera let her do whatever she was going to do with that box - off-camera - and then when she was done put the camera back on her?

[carnivalofsouls]

Let me gather my thoughts, antectodal evidence, the video, etc. and I will open a new thread - in a day or two - about the opening of the crown chakra and demon possession of a pop star.

That would be very constructive & cool. I'm waiting with great anticipation chrysoprase!

I don't want to derail this thread because Lisa Lopes and the Last Days documentary discussion should continue unhampered.

Yeah I think there's so much still to be investigated... Her relationship with her patrons, managers (maybe handlers?), numerology in her life, her premonitions, the car accident.

As far as the accident goes, the coca cola box contained "her cards". Tarot cards? So she clung on them & when she let go she died? Was it really another car or the other car that derailed her? Or was it programmed in her subconcious that that would be the day of her demise? Notice also that the car was ordered & rented, it wasn't the original van with which they accidentaly killed the Lopez boy.

[neville fan]

Me and my big mouth and unpopular theories:D

I watched the video of the car accident and I see something that looks like it could be a dark vehicle, through the front window (mid-left) but it is not on the road - it is on the side of the road, while Lisa's car is still ON the road? She seems to swerve deliberately AFTER I see the dark object on the dead grassy area. Delayed reaction?? Or What??

What am I missing?

When I first saw this doc; I wondered why she wanted to hold the Coca-Cola tinbox. She had asked one of the rear seat passengers to pass it to her; and then she just held it awhile and passed it back to the rear seat.

But on rewatch - I notice the camera goes away from her awhile (while she is holding the box) and focuses on the backseat. Then we see her hand the box back to the backseat and the camera goes back to her.

Do you think her friend with the camera let her do whatever she was going to do with that box - off-camera - and then when she was done put the camera back on her?


I am wondering if that object on the side of the road is a vehicle as well. When I keep replaying it , it looks like it has it's hood up. I am also wondeirng if someone was in the middle of the road and she tried to swerve and miss them? Who knows, maybe someone lost something out of there vehicle and it was on the road and they were trying to retrieve it.

As for the Coca Cola box, I believe that it was just cards. Someone in the back asked if they could see the cards and she passed the box to someone in the back seat.

It is very strange though. Does anyone know if anyone else lived through this accident, and if so did they say what she was trying to avoid in the road?

[neville fan]

Lopes allegedly tried to swerve around a truck, but there was another vehicle heading towards them in the opposite direction. To avoid a head-on collision, Lopes swerved all the way off the road. The vehicle rolled several times after hitting two trees, throwing Lopes and three others out of the windows. She died from severe head and neck injuries.[19] The passenger in the front passenger seat was videotaping at the time, so the entire accident was recorded on video. Lopes' mother Wanda later sued Mitsubishi Motors, as the Montero was prone to rollovers according to a 2001 Consumer Reports review.[20]

[katy_sm]

Did anyone notice that she asked specifically for a RED car? sacrifice symbolism? also, the red box w/ her "cards" which I do believe had her tarot cards.

Also, her face. she seemed like she was looking for something specific on the road ...

p.s. note the symbol for the Lisa Lopez foundation *5:29* (one eye)

[bobbydiva]

http://www.chilli-online.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lisa-left-eye-lopes-eye-legacy.jpg

Too much symbolism surrounding her.

I believe she was close to 2pac and we know what happened to him.

I point you to one of her unreleased songs Untouchable she did with 2pac. The lyrcis are very revealing.
lisa left eye lopes ft 2pac - untouchable - YouTube

[bobbydiva]

Untouchable, look at how you found me
I'm lookin' around sayin' these are my friends
It's a strange world my enemies are my friends
More of the same street, same world, same problems
Is this indifferent?
Same drama, same karma, same mama
Is it different?
The only difference is me
I see inside the truth
Feel bad you don't know the day gon' come
When God has taken you
I see the invisible spirits, walkin' along the physical mind
Of a crazy individual
Where demons still find it livable
I need a hug to hold my soul inside my body
I got the secret here
Yeah, I should have told somebody
'Cause ever since I've been sayin' things I never meant
It's like I was speakin' in tongues, the black breath in my lungs
I won't allow it
Where the cowards live under the dirt in the flowers
Ready to come up in the darkest hour
It ain't the courage of my persona
You wanna admire it's the faith
'Cause with the faith I can walk through the fire
(Now feel me)

I know you feel me it's the untouchable
Make yourself presentable
I'm listenin' to mysteries of the untold (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul
I know you feel me it's the untouchable
Make yourself presentable
I'm listenin' to mysteries of the untold (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul

Sometimes I'm feelin' like I'm sinkin'
Thinkin' what it's like from on the other side
When I look at myself it's like my love had died
People thinkin' of gettin' richer
I'm usin' the blood of the loves that I lost recently
To paint a perfect picture
Can you see the future, future endeavors
That'll make us better
Usin' the light from my wings to make us fly together
Guide my people to a place like what you imagined
My duty now is to God
There's no more beauty pageants we gettin' the chance to thank Him
Me and you finally for what they made
Is it a game that they still playin'
Look at us now we're rid of grief
Payin' society's debt but life we still obeyin'
Until then I'll follow the path
Where will it lead?
Much in between ashes and dust
We must believe trickin' thee ain't trickin' me
I got tricks up my sleeve
They tryin' to market I'm tryin' to make my mark before I leave

I know you feel me it's the untouchable
Make yourself presentable
I'm listenin' to mysteries of the untold (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul
I know you feel me it's the untouchable
Make yourself presentable
I'm listenin' to mysteries of the untold (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul

I know you feel me it's the untouchable
Make yourself presentable, make yourself presentable
I will ride untouchable
After the fire comes the rain
After the pleasure there's pain
Even though we broke for the moment
We ball in the game
Time to make y'all my military
Be prepared for the busters
I'mma let ya bitches that's scary
Get to hear me no questions
Visions of overpacked prisons
Flingin's and niggas thug livin', precious
Three strikes, I hope they don't test us
And pull a heater ammunition is great
Move without a sound
And we slide down pistols in place
I'm sensin' niggas just defenses
From hittin' bitches to gettin' those
Who can prevent the shootin' senses
At these niggas throats only wish to breed
I explode into a million seeds y'all remember me
Legendary live eternally then bury me in pieces
'Cause they fear reincarnation, niggas screamin' peace
'Cause they fear
We must wanna face 'em, take 'em to places
Fake their fates then erase 'em, and break 'em
Murder my niggas I'm tired of waitin'
Now quicken the pace
Blast me but never ask me to live a lie
Am I wrong 'cause I wanna get it on til' I die?
Now worldwide
Niggas got the black girls, they hide
No offense to Nas
But this whole fuckin' world is mine
Even if you blind
You can still see my prophecy
My destiny to overthrow
Those on top of me fiendin' for currency
The money be callin'
Can you feel me dreamin'?
Seein' scenes of me ballin'?
Niggas that made niggas and that bitch
What you goin' through
Outlaws bustin' while we rush it
Untouchable
Niggas that play fucked up now what you goin' through
We outlaws rushin' 'em bustin'
We untouchable, untouchable, untouchable (uh-oh)

Echoin' inside my soul, untouchable (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul, untouchable (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul, untouchable (uh-oh)
Echoin' inside my soul, untouchable (uh-oh)

Echoin' inside my soul
Ya'll niggas never stop, you never drop, you never let me fall
Me 2 Pacalypse
All I know how to do is ball, ball, ball
My true fuckin' niggas survived reincarnation
After I'm dead they'll rock and roll
And bring the funk to the whole nation
And you know these fuckin' niggas
Have a gun with my name on it, untouchable
I spit the game so clear it's playin' on it
When I'm dead
My niggas will ride for me
Untouchable (untouchable)
Untouchable (untouchable)
Untouchable (untouchable)
Expect me like you expect Jesus to come back
Expect me nigga, I'm comin'

[bobbydiva]

also here is that documentary:
Last Days of Left Eye [Part 1] - YouTube

[crushallserpents]

Following the topic at VC:

Brittany Murphy’s Dad: “Her Case Deserves More Than a Superficial Glance”
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/brittany-murphys-dad-her-case-deserves-more-than-a-superficial-glance/

I noted in one reply:

VC should mention Lisa ‘Left Eye’ Lopes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Lopes

I don’t know much about her apart from watching a few TLC videos many years ago.

What I found important to note, however, is a documentary on her on VH1 or some other music channel. They showed, just before her death, she left to another country and was trying to “cleanse” herself.

Was she trying to de-program?

“A documentary on the final twenty-six days of Lopes’s life, titled The Last Days of Left Eye, premiered at the Atlanta Film Festival in April 2007, for an audience that included many of Lopes’s contemporaries, including Monica, Ronnie DeVoe, 112, Big Boi, India.Arie, and Cee-Lo. VH1 and VH1 Soul broadcast the documentary on May 19, 2007. Much of the footage was shot with a hand-held camera, often in the form of diary entries filmed by Lopes while on a 30-day spiritual retreat in Honduras with family and members of the R&B group Egypt. In these entries, she reflected on her personal life and career. A calmer side of her personality was on display, showing interests in numerology and yoga.”

Numerology and Yoga.. maybe she wasn’t going for a de-programming event as Numerology and Yoga are both common for occultists. I’m not suggesting she was an occultist but you decide.

“The program also showed the last minutes of Lopes’s life, including her swerving off the road.”

How do the Icke board members here feel about the death of Lisa Lopes? Does it qualify as a conspiracy?

[higgs boson]

A calmer side of her personality was on display, showing interests in numerology and yoga.”

Numerology and Yoga.. maybe she wasn’t going for a de-programming event as Numerology and Yoga are both common for occultists.

Cripes, my mother in law is well into yoga. Does anyone know where I might acquire a second hand ducking stool...?

[carnivalofsouls]

It's certain something was wrong. I've analyzed it with a couple of people on an old thread of mine...

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=121868

:eek:

[merlincove]

i have merged the two left eye threads :)

[frase]

Very interesting....great post...
Let's see the doc

[carnivalofsouls]

thank you merlincove! :D

[marisabia]

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/v/g/vgpcnb5qqfe7gvcf.jpg
Here's a very uncharacteristic pic of left eye.

[marisabia]

a second hand ducking stool...?

Huh?

[anniepeer]

made a screenshot of a scene from the documentary


http://i40.tinypic.com/2rxbdi1.png

[pinacolada]

Have just re-watched the documentary on the back of this thread. I noticed that just before they swerve off the road, you can hear another car skid about 3-5 seconds beforehand. That to me would indicate that there was a definite reason to swerve.

[cotarddelusion]

Deaths of black celebrities on the 25th

Eartha Kitt died on Dec 25th
James Brown December 25, 2006
Lisa (Left Eye) Lopes-April 25, 2002
Aaliyah Haughton- August 25, 2001
Rodger from Zapp Band April 25,1999
Michael Jackson- June 25,2009
Static Major - February 25th 2008
Desmond Dekker - May 25, 2006
Exodus Tyson (Mike Tyson's 4-year-old daughter)- died May 25, 2009

8 months to the day between Aaliyah and Lefteye's death.

The fact this list exists has always seemed incredibly bizarre to me.



Great thread by the way. Lot's of information I didn't know about Lefteyes passing. Very strange stuff.