What is the relation of light and vibration?

[haukipesukone]

If everything is vibration, vibrating at different levels? What is light? Is it vibration, are photons vibration?

Sound is vibration? Light is not sound? I think I'm missing something?

[gushen]

light is like an ether. you can study it in terms of vibration, but it also fits nicely within the particle model. it has a dual , paradoxical nature.

we should keep in mind however, the reductionist model of "particles" is ill equipped to deal with the concept of vibration. there are no directly observable particles in Nature. every "particle" is a man-made abstraction based on the wave model, which is also a model of vibration.

vibration is therefore a more fundamental abstraction of the concept of energy than the particle model. there is no greater abstraction.

when you are studying vibration as a conceptual form of energy not directly observable, and not only its occurrence in physical mediums, you are actually studying metaphysics.

[haukipesukone]

So light is somehow different from vibration? That's what I thought. The nature of light has perplexed me for so long, but I'm getting there. Step by step.

Is a particle something that can be verified to exist even with common sense or is it one those theories that fit the other main stream theories, so it doesn't matter if it's real or not?

[verndewd]

it would be too easy to say that its a byproduct of vibration since radiation is exactly that. excited atoms radiating and some of that spectrum being visible light.
Fits a mediatation I had as well where light was the process of compressing and decompressing creation the god energy if you will.

[godgoo]

it would be too easy to say that its a byproduct of vibration since radiation is exactly that. excited atoms radiating and some of that spectrum being visible light.
Fits a mediatation I had as well where light was the process of compressing and decompressing creation the god energy if you will.

Hm, yeah. I almost forgot about lazer cooling, that would be decompressing or what is know as condensing, the atom by condesning the electron cloud closer to the nucleus. By hitting it with one frequency of light.

[gushen]

Is a particle something that can be verified to exist even with common sense or is it one those theories that fit the other main stream theories, so it doesn't matter if it's real or not?

it's one of those things so ingrained in common sense that people firmly believe it's real -> reductionism. particles are discretizations of continuous functions. when/where does a drop of water ends and the ocean begins? at one point you have to simply assume that a line of division exists.

[haukipesukone]

it's one of those things so ingrained in common sense that people firmly believe it's real -> reductionism. particles are discretizations of continuous functions. when/where does a drop of water ends and the ocean begins? at one point you have to simply assume that a line of division exists.

I have to read a book about light at some point. My head can't take too much "science", but I have to try.

[verndewd]

I have to read a book about light at some point. My head can't take too much "science", but I have to try.

Dont you see your contradiction in that phrase? ;) Why do you feel driven to try? because you know its important and even more important that you can find it written in simple terms to help others along with yourself.

There are simple descriptions, Though I applaud you for being courageous enough to tackle your limits. Thats very cool of you.

[haukipesukone]

Dont you see your contradiction in that phrase? ;) Why do you feel driven to try? because you know its important and even more important that you can find it written in simple terms to help others along with yourself.

There are simple descriptions, Though I applaud you for being courageous enough to tackle your limits. Thats very cool of you.

I doubt I'd find good info on light written in simple terms. Sure there are probably some new age "love and light" -books that are very simple, but they're probably also very pointless.

EDIT: suggestions regarding books on light would be appreciated. Perhaps The Holographic Universe is a good start.

[godgoo]

I always start at the deep end. I always read very complex physics material because I know what it is on about mostly.

I started reading einsteins works. Ive read about shrodinger, bohr, heisenberg, rutherford. and I also had to answer many questions, it was proactive learning. So I am pretty confident when it comes to science. I studied for three years, chemistry, biology and physics.