Anti semitism NO SUCH THING(says Jew)Must read!

[eternal_spirit]

Anti-Semitism: Here is the definition of Anti-Semitism from the lips of a Jew: “Anti-Semitism does NOT signify opposition to Semitism. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. It is an expression we use effectively as a SMEARWORD, used to brand anyone who brings criticism against us.” Harold W. Rosenthal (Jewish), administrative assistant for then-U.S. Senator Jacob K. Javits (Jewish) of New York, in an interview with American Christian magazine editor, Walter White.
“A man is considered an anti-Semite if he calls a Jew a Jew.” Hillaire Belloc, quoted in Culture Wars (Sept 2000).
“My unpardonable crime,” said Boris Lunachev, a former leader of the Communist Youth in Russia, “was to call a Jew a Jew.”


Anti-Christianity: A term that is all but absent from the vocabulary of the population even though it is being practiced daily all over the world, including in America. Why? Because the Anti-Christian barrage comes from the media, virtually ALL of which is controlled by the Jews – who HATE Christianity. The media and all the Jewish organizations, including the Jewish ACLU and Jewish Hollywood, spew hatred continually against Christianity yet they scream “Anti-Semitism” when anyone says something that “offends” the Jews, even when that “something” can be proved in a Court of Law to be TRUE!

Eighty to ninety percent of all the “Jews” in the world have NO Semitic ancestry, they are Khazars - - of “Gentile” origin, barbarian Mongol Turks, from the area of Khazaria (now the Caucasus portion of Western Russia), people who, in about 740 A.D., accepted the religion and/or culture of Judaism. Very few, if any, “Jews” in the world today, have any Semitic blood (Semite, from the word Shemite. Shem was one of the sons of Noah). See The Thirteenth Tribe, by Jewish author, Arthur Koestler.





This term, anti-Semitism, is often incorrectly used by “Jews” to smear and discredit non-Jews who are looking for truth in history.
If one tells the truth about the Jews, such as “The Jews own Hollywood” (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-folder.html) (something they admit to each other), or “The Jews own the media” (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-controlledpress-folder.html)(something they brag about among themselves), one is considered an “anti-Semite.” (http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&subpage1=you_might_be%20www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&subpage1=you_might_be)
This is a clever subterfuge to eliminate any criticism of any Jew for any thing. If any Jews happen to be involved in any under-handed or even illegal activities, and someone exposes that activity, that person is branded an “anti-Semite.”


It is a convenient way for them to avoid dealing directly with the truth of the issues. So instead, they viciously attack the messenger.
The most anti-Semitic group of people on earth are the Jews, themselves. Arabs are of Semitic origin and the majority of Jews appear to hate the Arabs, at least in Israel. The Israeli government’s plan is to annihilate all Arabs in the same way they are “genociding” the Palestinians.


In addition, the BIG Jews, the leaders of International Jewry, are extremely anti-Semitic because they hate the rank and file Jews who are not in their own “club.”
Iraqi Jews (http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html) who have immigrated to Israel have been the object of bigotry and prejudice by the eastern European Jews in Israel. Encouraged to relocate in Israel because of their experience as farmers, work that the eastern European Jews feel is beneath them, the Iraqi Jews are treated as second class citizens because they work with their hands.





The rank and file Jews have no idea how expendable they are considered by their own leaders. They are encouraged to live in dangerous war zones, such as Israel and the territories to “secure the land” for their masters, while their leaders live in safety, comfort and luxury in other countries. The rank and file Jews are being used by their Jewish leaders as throw-away pawns in a big-stakes game for control of the world.


When will they wake up?
“Anti-Zionist” Jews? There’s NO SUCH THING! Some Jews claim to be Anti-Zionism, including a group of Orthodox Jews known as the Neturei Karta. The Neturei Karta rabbis have infiltrated non-Zionist Christian organizations and have totally deceived supposedly non-Zionist talk show hosts both on radio and on the internet into believing that they, the Neturei Karta, are, indeed, against Zionism. They also were invited to the recent Iranian Holocaust Revisionist Conference, thereby revealing that they also have deceived the President of Iran.


However, the Neturei Karta is an organization of Jewish Rabbis whose “holiest” book is the Talmud – a book that is the absolute origin of Zionism, Communism, Anti-Christianity, Anti-Gentile hate propaganda, and the total control of the entire world! If anyone believes in the Talmud, they are, by definition, a Zionist, no matter what they pretend to be!
Judaism is a “chameleon” culture/religion. It “becomes” whatever is necessary in order to deceive and trick non-Jews

[eternal_spirit]

oops here's the link

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/

[eternal_spirit]

bump some of you need to realize you've been fooled.

[mr jones]

:cool:

[dondaz]

That was good mate, and a lot of truth in there too. But not all jews are zionists pretending to be anti-zionist. Aaron Russo was Jewish, but that didn't stop him from making vids and films against the New World Order and the elite. Are the Rockerfellas' jewish? Not sure, but Russo exposed one of those and then some!

Very interesting though, thanks for posting!

[eternal_spirit]

That was good mate, and a lot of truth in there too. But not all jews are zionists pretending to be anti-zionist. Aaron Russo was Jewish, but that didn't stop him from making vids and films against the New World Order and the elite. Are the Rockerfellas' jewish? Not sure, but Russo exposed one of those and then some!

Very interesting though, thanks for posting!

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Yes that's true, he's not the only Jew who writes about the Elite. Think there's a guy named Hoffman not sure of the spelling, has a site.

[supertzar]

What is the response to the genetic study "proving" that Jews are Middle Eastern? The implication is that the Ashkenazi Jews are from Palestine, not Khazaria.

[eternal_spirit]

What is the response to the genetic study "proving" that Jews are Middle Eastern? The implication is that the Ashkenazi Jews are from Palestine, not Khazaria.

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Yes there are different theories. I've new to this side of it. synergy may have an answer. This thread suggests about only 10% come from the middle east. also that as I think Icke wrote there is no such thing as a Jewish race it's more a belief system/religion. Confused I am :confused:

[chris]

I'm usually far above these threads, like a few dimensions above them.

However, the catchy title and controversial ere of this thread sparked my self-riteous indignation and I thought I would spend a few minutes writing up how this thread is misleading the poor little minds of the David Icke forum in addition to bumping it to the top of the list.

I for one would rather not discuss the higher powers of the nwo, it's so anti-semitic.

Therefore I petition for your immediate banning and subsequent hanging.

Why can't everyone be like me and be full of infinite love?

[mr jones]

lol

[on the road]

I'm usually far above these threads, like a few dimensions above them.

However, the catchy title and controversial ere of this thread sparked my self-riteous indignation and I thought I would spend a few minutes writing up how this thread is misleading the poor little minds of the David Icke forum in addition to bumping it to the top of the list.

I for one would rather not discuss the higher powers of the nwo, it's so anti-semitic.

Therefore I petition for your immediate banning and subsequent hanging.

Why can't everyone be like me and be full of infinite love?

spot on! as soon as i read the title of the thread i thought thats got hate written all over it.

lets grow up and stop all this hate shite

[lizzy]

I'm usually far above these threads, like a few dimensions above them.

However, the catchy title and controversial ere of this thread sparked my self-riteous indignation and I thought I would spend a few minutes writing up how this thread is misleading the poor little minds of the David Icke forum in addition to bumping it to the top of the list.

I for one would rather not discuss the higher powers of the nwo, it's so anti-semitic.

Therefore I petition for your immediate banning and subsequent hanging.

Why can't everyone be like me and be full of infinite love?

WOW, What arrogance, LOL. Why can't everyone be like me? LOL.
Well, here's a academic whose worth a read. A Jewish anti-zionist.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html

[damagedbrainn]

Oh for chrissake, ANTI-JEW then. What's the fuckin' difference, really? That whole nitpicking argument is just a distraction. When someone accuses you of being "anti-semitic", they mean that you are prejudice against Jews. So responding to that by pointing out that most jews aren't literally descended from the semitic people does not change the nature of their accusation. It doesn't change the meaning of their point. So, even if you want to insist that there's no such thing as "anti-semitism" based on this technicality, that does NOT mean that there is no such thing as prejudice against Jews. There VERY clearly is, unless you want to deny a huge chunk of western history, and you probably do.

If you call me an asshole, and I respond by explaining to you that it's technically impossible for a whole person to literally be an asshole, because technically an asshole is the rectum, so therefore, I must not be an asshole; would that retort make any goddamn sense? Doesn't the context and the meaning behind the word "asshole" matter more than its technical definition?

So, I'm sorry. If you want to prove that you're not "anti-semitic", repeating this argument over and over again just isn't gonna do it. Instead, you should try not blaming absolutely everything on "The Jews". Stop saying that so-and-so is Jewish simply because they're involved in the occult. Or that so-and-so is Jewish simply because they own something. Recognize that stating "JEWS KILLED MILLIONS IN THE GULAGS" is ignorant and prejudice because not absolutely EVERYONE who was involved in the Soviet administration was Jewish. Not everyone involved in Western corruption is Jewish....in fact, most are not, you just assume they are. Stop constantly accusing Jews of being the only ones of practicing things like circumcision. Stop constantly accusing Jews of sacrificing "Christian" babies and drinking their blood. Stop accusing "The Jews" of worshipping satan. Criticise the concept and practice (and abuse) of Zionism if you want to, without believing that anyone who supports it does so with sinister intentions. Criticise the Israeli government without condemning the Israeli people.

All of those things would do a much better job of convincing people that you are not ANTI-JEW than your pointless argument will.

[chris]

WOW, What arrogance, LOL. Why can't everyone be like me? LOL.
Well, here's a academic whose worth a read. A Jewish anti-zionist.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html

Obviously you were either breastfed as a child or didn't have your winky chopped off, otherwise you wouldn't post such thought crimes.

No Jew is an anti-zionist therefore that anti-zionist is not a jew and unable to give creditability to your anti-semitism. The ADL said so.

Tell me if a dog doesn't jump through a hoop you would call him disobedient yet the irony is that if you told a man to jump through a hoop, he would call you an arsehole but Yeh, order returns as the man who doesn't jump through the star of David is an anti-semite as the Talmud describes.

[damagedbrainn]

Also, the sect of Orthodoxy Jews that you brought up really are Anti-Zionist, though not for the reasons that others are. It's not because they feel sorry for the Arabs or anything like that. They're a very conservative, dogmatic, fundamentalist group. In all likelihood, they probably hate Muslims. In fact, they seem to hate most other Jews as well. The reason they oppose the existence of Israel is simply because it goes against Torah prophecy. GOD is supposed to restore the nation of Israel, not man; so they view the creation of Israel as blasphemy, or heresy.

[damagedbrainn]

Tell me if a dog doesn't jump through a hoop you would call him disobedient yet the irony is that if you told a man to jump through a hoop, he would call you an arsehole but Yeh, order returns as the man who doesn't jump through the star of David is an anti-semite as the Talmud describes.

The Talmud provides a description of who does and does not qualify as an anti-semite?

[chris]

The Talmud provides a description of who does and does not qualify as an anti-semite?

Metaphorically.

[supertzar]

The semantics of the word anti-semite are not what the article is about. The main point is that anti-semitism is trumped up, artificial.

[lizzy]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by damagedbrainn
The Holocaust has been clearly defined, studied, documented, etc.....
Chris answers................
Well it's funny because everytime I turn my back the goalposts keep changing. Can you give a real definition something we can use as a cannon for this thread?

I'm always the guy on this forum telling the people debating the holocaust are absolutely stupid, which they are...The whole debate is over, truthers need to move on and truthers that dwell on this hurt our movement.

9/11 and the banking system is where it's at.

It's just that I hate these self-righteous tirades by people who are really just as David Icke would say repeaters.

Hello,
Remembering that you two guys have been at this before. Here I agree with Chris. ( I think, LOL).
There is documentation out there by the Red Cross that the holocaust was exaggerated, in order to get more jews to emigrant to Palistine and hold this crime over humanity as they are still doing today. Even to call a jew a jew we have been conditioned to think is anti-semitic?
I believe that we are going to hear even my about the holocaust because it is the Elites' method of keeping the Jews victims and not dissuade people from looking further into who the European Bamkers are and what they have perpetrated on us and that Mossad was in on 9/11.

[damagedbrainn]

Metaphorically.

Oh-kay. Whatever the hell that means.

[supertzar]

I don't see how getting closer to the truth about any particular thing can hurt a legitimate truth movement.

[damagedbrainn]

The semantics of the word anti-semite are not what the article is about. The main point is that anti-semitism is trumped up, artificial.

Trumped up, as in, all the accusation made against Jews throughout history into the present time are true? There is no such thing as anti-jew bias, or prejudice and persecution against Jews? Is that what you mean?

[supertzar]

:confused: That's what the article is saying.

Anti-Semitism: Here is the definition of Anti-Semitism from the lips of a Jew: “Anti-Semitism does NOT signify opposition to Semitism. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. It is an expression we use effectively as a SMEARWORD, used to brand anyone who brings criticism against us.” Harold W. Rosenthal (Jewish), administrative assistant for then-U.S. Senator Jacob K. Javits (Jewish) of New York, in an interview with American Christian magazine editor, Walter White.
“A man is considered an anti-Semite if he calls a Jew a Jew.” Hillaire Belloc, quoted in Culture Wars (Sept 2000).
“My unpardonable crime,” said Boris Lunachev, a former leader of the Communist Youth in Russia, “was to call a Jew a Jew.”

"No such thing" referring to anti-semitism itself, not semitism.

[eternal_spirit]

Okay, so here's what's said from the same article. If you wan't to read the full article click the link here below.


http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/


Jew: Who is a Jew? There is no such thing as an “ethnic” Jew. Jewishness is a culture, not an ethnicity. Even if one’s parents are considered “Jewish” that doesn’t mean that he is an ethnic “Jew.” If being “Jewish” is an “ethnicity”, then who was the FIRST “Jew”?
Most “Jews” will respond, “Abraham was the FIRST Jew!” But Abraham was NOT a “Jew”! He was a Babylonian, from Ur of the Chaldees (Babylon). His wife, Sarah, was also a Babylonian, and they were married in Ur of the Chaldees - Babylon.


Subsequently, they moved to the pagan area of Canaan. But that certainly did not make them “Jewish.”
Then they had a son, Isaac, who was now the son of two Babylonians, living in Canaan. That did NOT make Isaac “Jewish.”
Then Isaac and Rebecca had twin sons, Jacob and Esau. Esau was the “father” of the Edomite nation – and NO ONE considers the Edomites “Jewish.” How could Jacob be “Jewish” if his twin brother was NOT “Jewish”?
Jacob was NOT “Jewish.” He was just the grandson of two Babylonians who were living in the pagan country of Canaan.
Then Jacob had 12 sons by four different wives. That did NOT make his sons “Jewish.” Then the whole family moved down to Egypt – which certainly did NOT make them “Jewish.” The whole group stayed in Egypt for 400 years while their numbers grew, but there is no evidence that they mystically became “Jewish” while living in Egypt!
After the group multiplied, God, through Moses, brought them OUT OF Egypt and into the desert wilderness where they stayed for forty years. Living in the desert did NOT make them “Jewish.”

In addition, the Bible tells us that the group that left Egypt was a “mixed multitude” (Exodus 12:38), meaning there were some Egyptians and other nationalities among them.
After the forty years, they were brought into the pagan land of Canaan, where (against God’s express command) they intermarried with the pagan Canaanites. THAT certainly didn’t make them “Jewish.”
So - - - - WHEN or WHERE was the FIRST Jew?
There never was one!


The Bible translators made up the word “Jew.”
The word “Jew” is a mistranslation of the word “Iudean” or “Judean” which was a location in Palestine, and referred to the group who, at that time, worshiped the one God of heaven (they were “believers” even though they were constantly straying from God), as opposed to the “Nations” (often mistranslated “Gentiles”) who worshipped many different gods, and were the “Unbelievers.”
In the Bible, the word “Iudean” or “Judean” refers to a geographical location (Judea) or a religious belief, NOT an ethnicity. If one worshiped the true God of heaven, he was termed a “Judean” – a “Believer” – since most of the “Believers” (in the true God) lived in the area of Judea at that time. If one was an atheist or worshiped pagan gods, he was termed as one of the “nations” or an “Unbeliever.”
So, Who is a “Jew”?

Is one a “Jew” because his religion is Judaism and he goes to Temple?
Or is one a “Jew” because his family is “Jewish” – even though he may not be “religious”? In that case is he a Cultural “Jew”?
The truth is that those who consider themselves “Jewish” can conveniently slide from one category to another with great ease – Culture – Religion – or what they like to believe is “Ethnicity” while continuing to maintain that he is a “Jew.”
CONCLUSION: There is NO SUCH THING as an “ethnic” Jew! Jewishness is a Culture - - NOT an ethnicity. And the Jewish Culture is the Culture of the Talmud, the writings of the Pharisees who were taken captive from Palestine to Babylon when Jerusalem was destroyed. In 70 A.D. (See “Talmud” below.)
Are ALL Jews alike? Not at all. There are many people who consider themselves “Jewish” who are wonderful, honest people. On the other hand, there are some “Jews” who believe they are better than other ethnic groups, just as some whites, Asians, and others may believe they are superior. This, of course, is wrong, no matter what group one belongs to.


But the ruling elite of International Jewry, the Zionist Jews, have a diabolic agenda - - total control of the whole World by force, for their own greed and desire for power.
Included in this elite group of Zionist Jews are the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Rockefellers, Henry Kissinger, most, if not all the royal families of Europe, the Wall Street Bankers, media baron, Rupert Murdoch, Seagram’s whiskey heir, Edgar Bronfman, head of the World Jewish Congress, the Neo-cons, and many others, men who have NO allegiance to ANYONE or ANYTHING except themselves and Zionism! They constantly propagandize the rank and file Jews of the world with the lie that every non-Jew is their enemy, terrorizing them into a cohesive group.
Yet, the top-level Zionist Jews would sacrifice the rank and file “Jew” in an instant if it serves their own selfish purpose of total domination of the World! (See Zionism, below.}

[supertzar]

I guess it's more than a culture because to be Jewish, you have to have a Jewish mother. You can convert, but that seems to be frowned upon somewhat. Most Jewish people seem to have common genetic traits, also.

[lizzy]

Obviously you were either breastfed as a child or didn't have your winky chopped off, otherwise you wouldn't post such thought crimes.

No Jew is an anti-zionist therefore that anti-zionist is not a jew and unable to give creditability to your anti-semitism. The ADL said so.

Tell me if a dog doesn't jump through a hoop you would call him disobedient yet the irony is that if you told a man to jump through a hoop, he would call you an arsehole but Yeh, order returns as the man who doesn't jump through the star of David is an anti-semite as the Talmud describes.

Reading from the thread on negativity you posted.....I see that you are quite hypocritical as well as arrogant..Go stroke your beard with that. LOL.

[alleendewaarheid]

i have never believed that anti-semitism ever has existed..

part of duality promotion by the illuminati..

use the anti-semitism b.s. as a means to an end...simple as that!

[megafish33]

If there are groups of people that are referred to as "Semitic" then yes, there can certainly be antisemitism. You can be anti-anything. While used to "defend" many Jews in the last century or so, Arabs are also "Semitic" peoples. I suppose I shouldn't use quotes around Semitic, because it's just a name representing something, but I don't personally feel that we have much evidence on the Noah stories, thus a man named Shem, may not have even existed. Anyway... While there are Jews that are hardly what you would call Semitic, many of them still refer to others as antisemitic, even though some of those people, may very well just be anti-Jewish Semites, like Arabs who feel Islam should be accepted by Jews. Some people may feel like those Jews(who are non-Semites and have done a conversion to Judaism) have no right whatsoever to label those anti-Jewish persons as antisemitic since those who point the fingers are, in those cases, the actual Semites. Some may think I'm biased, but I think, while it's important to point all of these details out, it's less important than the real issue. Two nuts arguing who's invisible man in heaven is better or truer. Of course, I will also bring out, there are for sure(!!) antisemitic Semites! Semitic Jews, both religious and not, and Arabs, religious or not, have always been arguing, despite at the same time living in peace in various locations and times. You can easily add all types of people to the mix.

While Jewish people share a lot of genetic traits with all kinds of various Arabic speaking peoples, they do have certain markers unique to them, depending on their family tree. Our family has a Sefer Yuchsin, which records family genealogy back to biblical times(to Aaron, Moses' brother, actually). While I do not find it as proof of a hand of god protecting the genes, it is pretty cool. Also, many people rave up and down about the Kuzars. Well look people, the Ashkenazi paternal gene pool is not similar to that of Turks. The Kazars(Kuzars?) were a Turkish-Asian empire. I also doubt they all just up and decided one day to convert to the worlds most hated religion en masse. Also worthy of note, intermarriage was not exactly encouraged by Jewish religious communities. In fact, the intermarriage rate, in continental Europe was less than half a percent, ever since some Jews migrated there many generations ago. Some say it usually takes three generations of Jewish families to get the certain Jewish gene specifications in your blood, and three non-Jew generations to get them out.

There are some studies and tests you can do, but in the end, you guys are correct, there is a Jewish culture, not a separate distinct race.
Jewish Genetics@NYU (http://www.med.nyu.edu/pediatrics/genetics/research/jewish_origins.html)
Simple DNA testings (http://www.familytreedna.com/jgene.html)

[lizzy]

Okay, so here's what's said from the same article. If you wan't to read the full article click the link here below.


http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/


Jew: Who is a Jew? There is no such thing as an “ethnic” Jew. Jewishness is a culture, not an ethnicity. Even if one’s parents are considered “Jewish” that doesn’t mean that he is an ethnic “Jew.” If being “Jewish” is an “ethnicity”, then who was the FIRST “Jew”?
Most “Jews” will respond, “Abraham was the FIRST Jew!” But Abraham was NOT a “Jew”! He was a Babylonian, from Ur of the Chaldees (Babylon). His wife, Sarah, was also a Babylonian, and they were married in Ur of the Chaldees - Babylon.


Subsequently, they moved to the pagan area of Canaan. But that certainly did not make them “Jewish.”
Then they had a son, Isaac, who was now the son of two Babylonians, living in Canaan. That did NOT make Isaac “Jewish.”
Then Isaac and Rebecca had twin sons, Jacob and Esau. Esau was the “father” of the Edomite nation – and NO ONE considers the Edomites “Jewish.” How could Jacob be “Jewish” if his twin brother was NOT “Jewish”?
Jacob was NOT “Jewish.” He was just the grandson of two Babylonians who were living in the pagan country of Canaan.
Then Jacob had 12 sons by four different wives. That did NOT make his sons “Jewish.” Then the whole family moved down to Egypt – which certainly did NOT make them “Jewish.” The whole group stayed in Egypt for 400 years while their numbers grew, but there is no evidence that they mystically became “Jewish” while living in Egypt!
After the group multiplied, God, through Moses, brought them OUT OF Egypt and into the desert wilderness where they stayed for forty years. Living in the desert did NOT make them “Jewish.”

In addition, the Bible tells us that the group that left Egypt was a “mixed multitude” (Exodus 12:38), meaning there were some Egyptians and other nationalities among them.
After the forty years, they were brought into the pagan land of Canaan, where (against God’s express command) they intermarried with the pagan Canaanites. THAT certainly didn’t make them “Jewish.”
So - - - - WHEN or WHERE was the FIRST Jew?
There never was one!


The Bible translators made up the word “Jew.”
The word “Jew” is a mistranslation of the word “Iudean” or “Judean” which was a location in Palestine, and referred to the group who, at that time, worshiped the one God of heaven (they were “believers” even though they were constantly straying from God), as opposed to the “Nations” (often mistranslated “Gentiles”) who worshipped many different gods, and were the “Unbelievers.”
In the Bible, the word “Iudean” or “Judean” refers to a geographical location (Judea) or a religious belief, NOT an ethnicity. If one worshiped the true God of heaven, he was termed a “Judean” – a “Believer” – since most of the “Believers” (in the true God) lived in the area of Judea at that time. If one was an atheist or worshiped pagan gods, he was termed as one of the “nations” or an “Unbeliever.”
So, Who is a “Jew”?

Is one a “Jew” because his religion is Judaism and he goes to Temple?
Or is one a “Jew” because his family is “Jewish” – even though he may not be “religious”? In that case is he a Cultural “Jew”?
The truth is that those who consider themselves “Jewish” can conveniently slide from one category to another with great ease – Culture – Religion – or what they like to believe is “Ethnicity” while continuing to maintain that he is a “Jew.”
CONCLUSION: There is NO SUCH THING as an “ethnic” Jew! Jewishness is a Culture - - NOT an ethnicity. And the Jewish Culture is the Culture of the Talmud, the writings of the Pharisees who were taken captive from Palestine to Babylon when Jerusalem was destroyed. In 70 A.D. (See “Talmud” below.)
Are ALL Jews alike? Not at all. There are many people who consider themselves “Jewish” who are wonderful, honest people. On the other hand, there are some “Jews” who believe they are better than other ethnic groups, just as some whites, Asians, and others may believe they are superior. This, of course, is wrong, no matter what group one belongs to.


But the ruling elite of International Jewry, the Zionist Jews, have a diabolic agenda - - total control of the whole World by force, for their own greed and desire for power.
Included in this elite group of Zionist Jews are the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Rockefellers, Henry Kissinger, most, if not all the royal families of Europe, the Wall Street Bankers, media baron, Rupert Murdoch, Seagram’s whiskey heir, Edgar Bronfman, head of the World Jewish Congress, the Neo-cons, and many others, men who have NO allegiance to ANYONE or ANYTHING except themselves and Zionism! They constantly propagandize the rank and file Jews of the world with the lie that every non-Jew is their enemy, terrorizing them into a cohesive group.
Yet, the top-level Zionist Jews would sacrifice the rank and file “Jew” in an instant if it serves their own selfish purpose of total domination of the World! (See Zionism, below.}

I believe this text, more is posted on another thread or one can read the link posted by eternal-spirit.

[revolutionary_jam]

[B][COLOR=#d30c09]“Anti-Zionist” Jews? There’s NO SUCH THING!

sorry to use such language (for the first time) on this forum, but:
FUCK YOU

there's one posting right here, how dare you be so presumptuous?

[damagedbrainn]

I guess it's more than a culture because to be Jewish, you have to have a Jewish mother. You can convert, but that seems to be frowned upon somewhat.

That's true depending on what Jewish denomination you're speaking of. Some sects recognize and accept converts or those who have Jewish fathers, and not Jewish mothers. Other sects flat-out refuse to recognize converts or anyone who doesn't have a Jewish mother. It's a hotly debated topic within Judaism.

Most Jewish people seem to have common genetic traits, also.

That isn't true. Genetically speaking, there is no such thing as a "Jewish race". It's an ideological/cultural concept only. Genetic studies have shown that most Jews are related to the non-jewish people co-existing in the area of their origin.

[eternal_spirit]

sorry to use such language (for the first time) on this forum, but:
FUCK YOU

there's one posting right here, how dare you be so presumptuous?

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Shoot the messenger?

[eternal_spirit]

That isn't true. Genetically speaking, there is no such thing as a "Jewish race". It's an ideological/cultural concept only. Genetic studies have shown that most Jews are related to the non-jewish people co-existing in the area of their origin.

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Bit like converting to a religion or joining the masons etc. You don't have to be a 'certain race' to be Christian etc.

[eternal_spirit]

That's true depending on what Jewish denomination you're speaking of. Some sects recognize and accept converts or those who have Jewish fathers, and not Jewish mothers. Other sects flat-out refuse to recognize converts or anyone who doesn't have a Jewish mother. It's a hotly debated topic within Judaism.






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Why the difference? Do they wan't to breed the same families to create different class systems. The Elite breed with each other.

[damagedbrainn]

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Why the difference? Do they wan't to breed the same families to create different class systems. The Elite breed with each other.

The difference exists in how seriously that particular sect takes the whole "chosen people" thing. Some sects still adamantly believe that Jews are directly descended from the original Israelites, and they believe that being Jewish is dependent upon having this ancestry and strictly maintaining it. Why they determine this through matrilineal heritage, I don't know.

Other sects of Judaism, and particularly secular Jews (which make up the majority of the Israeli population) no longer believe in this due to historical and archaeological evidence, as well as genetic studies, which have disproven those things. So it's no longer an important prerequisite for qualifying as Jewish to them.

[alleendewaarheid]

you know i believe there are many people like me who just don't really care about hearing about people's religion.

i'd be happy never to hear again about chrisitanity, islam or judaism.

there's alot of us who really don't give a crap about any of it.

it's so old...

watching US movies or TV in the past (i haven't had a TV in a long time) i was so sick of hearing about jewish stuff like bar mitsvahs etc. it is so disproportionate to the actual amount of jews in the USA (jews make up less than 1% of the population).

i don't really give a shit if someone is jewish..but please keep it to yourself and don't wear it as a badge of honor..

[damagedbrainn]

you know i believe there are many people like me who just don't really care about hearing about people's religion.

i'd be happy never to hear again about chrisitanity, islam or judaism.

there's alot of us who really don't give a crap about any of it.

it's so old...

watching US movies or TV in the past (i haven't had a TV in a long time) i was so sick of hearing about jewish stuff like bar mitsvahs etc. it is so disproportionate to the actual amount of jews in the USA (jews make up less than 1% of the population).

i don't really give a shit if someone is jewish..but please keep it to yourself and don't wear it as a badge of honor..

Wear it like a badge of honor? You mean like how you constantly go around telling everyone who will listen that you're from the Angelic Realm, in dimension 5D?

[tinmenace]

"No such thing" referring to anti-semitism itself, not semitism.

And he's right in that the term "Anti-Semitism" is a contradiction within itself.

[damagedbrainn]

And he's right in that the term "Anti-Semitism" is a contradiction within itself.






It's using semantics as a form of denial.

[tinmenace]

It's using semantics as a form of denial.

I'm not denying anything. I'm simply stating that it's a bullshit term, which it is. No amount of pushing and bullying will change that simple fact. You can have a nappy-rash tantrum all day long, and it will not change the fact that "Anti-Semite" is a contradiction in terms.

If the ADL want to say "Anti-Jew", then that's what they need to say, but they needn't be naming a specific group of people (which includes Arabs), and then deliberately be silent to their plight as a group. It's bullshit to give preference to one small part of that group, and kick the rest in the teeth.

It's bullshit. You know it. I know it, and more and more the whole world is going to know it and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing ;)

[damagedbrainn]

I'm not denying anything. I'm simply stating that it's a bullshit term, which it is. No amount of pushing and bullying will change that simple fact. You can have a nappy-rash tantrum all day long, and it will not change the fact that "Anti-Semite" is a contradiction in terms.

If the ADL want to say "Anti-Jew", then that's what they need to say, but they needn't be naming a specific group of people (which includes Arabs), and then deliberately be silent to their plight as a group. It's bullshit to give preference to one small part of that group, and kick the rest in the teeth.

It's bullshit. You know it. I know it, and more and more the whole world is going to know it and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing ;)





When somebody says "anti-semitism", they mean "anti-jew". And you know that that's what they mean. EVERYBODY knows that. That's the common usage of the word. There are a lot of words whose common usage is very different from its literal meaning.

If the ADL and everyone else stopped using the term "anti-semitism", and replaced it with "anti-jew", what exactly would that change? What profound results would be achieved through that little switch in vocabulary?

[lizzy]

I'm not denying anything. I'm simply stating that it's a bullshit term, which it is. No amount of pushing and bullying will change that simple fact. You can have a nappy-rash tantrum all day long, and it will not change the fact that "Anti-Semite" is a contradiction in terms.

If the ADL want to say "Anti-Jew", then that's what they need to say, but they needn't be naming a specific group of people (which includes Arabs), and then deliberately be silent to their plight as a group. It's bullshit to give preference to one small part of that group, and kick the rest in the teeth.

It's bullshit. You know it. I know it, and more and more the whole world is going to know it and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing ;)





Yup, I agree, in a nutshell.

[supertzar]

When somebody says "anti-semitism", they mean "anti-jew". And you know that that's what they mean. EVERYBODY knows that. That's the common usage of the word. There are a lot of words whose common usage is very different from its literal meaning.

If the ADL and everyone else stopped using the term "anti-semitism", and replaced it with "anti-jew", what exactly would that change? What profound results would be achieved through that little switch in vocabulary?

Did you read the article? I already pointed out that the definition of anti-semitism is not the issue addressed. It's the very existence of anti-semitism or anti-Jewishness that is in question. Do you understand this or no?

[damagedbrainn]

Did you read the article? I already pointed out that the definition of anti-semitism is not the issue addressed. It's the very existence of anti-semitism or anti-Jewishness that is in question. Do you understand this or no?

And I already responded to you pointing that out (though you never gave a clear answer to what I asked you). Did you read her comment? Because that's what I was replying to, not the article.

[supertzar]

The answer is clear. The quotes in the article are saying that anti-semitism is an invention of Jewish people to stop their critics.

Changing the subject to the semantics of the term "anti-semitism" is going off-topic.

[alleendewaarheid]

damagedbrainn
Senior Member

You mean like how you constantly go around telling everyone who will listen that you're from the Angelic Realm, in dimension 5D

actually i've only mentioned it on this forum and the former icke forum...the only people i've ever talked to about it aside from icke forums are those that are experiencing the same....it's just the way it is..everyone currently on this planet is on different levels of consciousness...that's how the energy works....

you're only reacting because you feel inadequate within yourself.

you don't need to feel inadequate...you are a god/creator...be the grand being that you are!

i'm grand and i let myself shine!

love...

[revolutionary_jam]

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Shoot the messenger?

Don't be obnoxious, how can you say "there's no such thing as an anti-zionist jew",

what do you call this:

[supertzar]

There are quite a few Anti-Zionist Jews in my community. They protest in front of businesses that support Israel and in front of the synagogue. So, that statement is an exaggeration, if not a patent falsehood.

[damagedbrainn]

The answer is clear. The quotes in the article are saying that anti-semitism is an invention of Jewish people to stop their critics.

Changing the subject to the semantics of the term "anti-semitism" is going off-topic.

And I'm saying that when people use the term "anti-semitism", it's generally understood that it means "anti-jew". So how does what you're saying have any baring whatsoever on what I'm talking about? Are you saying that nobody can possibly be anti-jew? That the persecution of jews is something that Jews themselves made up?

[supertzar]

I am clarifying the information in the article for people who don't seem to understand what it is about *cough*damagedbrain . I have not expressed any views about the information, yet you keep asking if "that is what I am saying?"

The semantics of the word anti-semitism has "no bearing" on the topic of this thread. :(

[tinmenace]

When somebody says "anti-semitism", they mean "anti-jew". And you know that that's what they mean. EVERYBODY knows that. That's the common usage of the word. There are a lot of words whose common usage is very different from its literal meaning.

If the ADL and everyone else stopped using the term "anti-semitism", and replaced it with "anti-jew", what exactly would that change? What profound results would be achieved through that little switch in vocabulary?

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a BULLSHIT EXPRESSION with a fundamental flaw, which is that the protection offered by the ADL doesn't cover ALL SEMITES!!!

I don't care that EVERYBODY (sheeple) "know" that Anti-Semite means Anti-Jew, because in REALITY (when you finally break through the delusion) it should include ARABS which it doesn't.

Not everybody buys the BULLSHIT official definition of Anti-Semite because not everybody is an obedient robotic sheep. Some of us are able to see through the bullshit official line to realize that none of it is making sense.

Get a serious grip on reality. :rolleyes:

[eternal_spirit]

http://pmw.org.il/asx/PMW_HolocaustENG.asx
http://pmw.org.il/asx/PMW_MadiHolocaust.asx

Holocaust denial is a sentiment that is expressed openly in the Palestinian Authority, even among senior historians.

is a sentiment that is expressed openly in the Palestinian Authority, even among senior historians.
Senior Palestinian historians, Issam Sisalem, and Jirar Al Kidwah, Head of the Public Library and Arafat’s advisor, teach that the story of the Holocaust was a Jewish lie in order to gain world sympathy, which lead to the creation of the State of Israel. [PATV Nov 29, 2000]

Religious Propaganda
A religious leader argues that the Jewish leaders were responsible for the murder of the Jews in the Holocaust.
Dr. Muhammam Ibrahim Maadi. [Sept. 21, 20
^^^
The foot notes to two very short videos. ( less than two minutes and subtitled a must watch)

[eternal_spirit]

See videos^^^ the Palestinians believe the Holocaust was a hoax.