Digital Switchover - 17 Oct

[lookfar]

I was discussing this subject with someone the other day & have just come across this article in todays news:

Battle of the Airwaves - full article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7048548.stm)

Town Wakes up to Digital Future (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7048817.stm)

As the residents of Whitehaven in Cumbria become the first guinea-pigs of the digital switchover in the UK, so attention moves to what will happen with all the freed up airwaves.

The move to digital broadcasting, which is roughly six times more efficient than analogue, means that a large amount of spectrum will be released for completely new services once digital switchover is complete in 2012.

The spectrum in question would see up to 112 megahertz (MHz) of spectrum in the Ultra High Frequency band up for grabs, which equates to about 30% of the traditional TV airwaves. This spectrum is particularly sought-after because of its capacity and its range.

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Ultimately the decision about how to use the spectrum will be a political one, thinks Ian Fogg, an analyst with research firm Jupiter.

"The real debate is whether this spectrum should be kept for TV or something else. If it is sold to the highest bidder, which seems to be the direction Ofcom is leaning towards, then it probably wouldn't go to the broadcasters," he said.

I find it particularly interesting that this is yet another scheme that will be completed by 2012!:rolleyes:

Didn't James Casbolt also mention the HD technology in his recent interview too?

[klinker]

Hmmm interesting. I wonder if the highest bidder will be the military industrial complex and I wonder what they will use it for.:confused:

[lookfar]

Hmmm interesting. I wonder if the highest bidder will be the military industrial complex and I wonder what they will use it for.:confused:

Hi klinker

Yeah you can bet that'll be what happens & it probably won't be publicised who wins the bid either.

I thought we were getting hit hard enough already, but they obviously have more drastic measures up their sleeves for the approach of 2012!:(

[klinker]

Hi klinker

Yeah you can bet that'll be what happens & it probably won't be publicised who wins the bid either.

I thought we were getting hit hard enough already, but they obviously have more drastic measures up their sleeves for the approach of 2012!:(

Project blue beam?

[truthseeker1980]

Hi Lookfar, how are you?

That's wierd i was thinking along the same lines last night as i was trying to go to sleep.

What benefit does switching to digital have, the excuse they gave when it first came out was they could get more channels broadcasted on the terestrial network. I never beleived that from day one, as other countries like the US have always had loads of free channels on the terestrial network through analogue.

I came to my own conclusion with why they chose digital as the new medium and that maybe because it's a hell of a lot easier to send subliminals via digital, how many times in just one programme does the pic get disrubted with digital? Always big blocks of colour flash before your eyes, but in those split seconds we dont see, anything could be being shown. I have also being thinking recently that the disrubted sound could also be being used to train our brains or brain wash.

Anyway last night i was thinking the same thing, why is it 2012 and what is going to happen to the empty bandwidth once all the tv channels stop broadcasting via the analogue signal. Blue beam was my first conclusion, but also this could be used together with other forms of waves like HAARP, TERTA and alike to control us more and more. Who know's thought crimes could be detected this way by 2012, as the analogue signal is all around us all the time, they wont turn it off, they will use it for something else.

We should try and find out which government body is in charge of this and ask them what's going to happen to the empty bandwidth, if they answer military i think we can expect thought crimes and blue beam to become reality.

[deca]

Yeah this will be interesting to watch!!!!

[lottie]

Cant remember where i saw it but i think maybe that James Casbolt article may have mentioned it- about the killing of children adn recording their screams so they can broadcast it on a frequency we pick up but not that we can hear consciously! Sounds a bit far fetched but nothing is far fetched to me anymore!!
Also i wonder if it will mean the end of TV Licence evasion too? prehaps it means the ability to 'switch on' the digital signal once you've paid for the privaledge, so regardless of having a set you stil can pick up the signal untill its switched on?? just a thought....:confused:

[deca]

Digital is on already you just need to buy a digi box for about 20 quid for each TV, or have a satilite/cable set up.All they are doing its turning off analog and adding a few channels

[castle]

Theres only a limited amount of bandwidth available so being able to transmit 1000 channels in the space you could only transmit 1 before is a good idea.

Bandwidth is very strictly controlled and rightly so. A transmission on say 20 MHz can also screw with 40 MHz60 MHz and untold multiples above and in between that. A digital signal is also much less lightly to bleed over or cross channel mod.

If people are interested in what the freed up space will be used for it will be listed in the new frequency guides if your not happy with that buy a scanner and listen for yourself.

You hear some crazy stuff on the radio Ive been listening to number stations and the like for years.

CQ CQ CQ DX this station WA**** shit i love radio.

[revelations]

Yes thats right lookfar... I agree, I've noticed that the Goverment have a few projects/plans that are said to be completed by 2012 :confused:
I find it particularly interesting that this is yet another scheme that will be completed by 2012!:

[castle]

If 2012 comes and goes without incident what then? Theres a lot of people banking on that year whats Ickes view on 2012? I know hes made predictions before that have come and gone and people just forget about them. Whats he saying about 2012?

[lookfar]

Cant remember where i saw it but i think maybe that James Casbolt article may have mentioned it- about the killing of children adn recording their screams so they can broadcast it on a frequency we pick up but not that we can hear consciously! Sounds a bit far fetched but nothing is far fetched to me anymore!!

Yeah it was that JC interview which mentioned it, was it Project Mannequin or something? Anyway, I'm halfway through listening to it so will try to finish it later tonight. No nothing would surprise me anymore either, & there's absolutely no way I'm getting an HD TV, no thank you very much!!:eek::(

[lookfar]

Hi Lookfar, how are you?

That's wierd i was thinking along the same lines last night as i was trying to go to sleep.

What benefit does switching to digital have, the excuse they gave when it first came out was they could get more channels broadcasted on the terestrial network. I never beleived that from day one, as other countries like the US have always had loads of free channels on the terestrial network through analogue.

I came to my own conclusion with why they chose digital as the new medium and that maybe because it's a hell of a lot easier to send subliminals via digital, how many times in just one programme does the pic get disrubted with digital? Always big blocks of colour flash before your eyes, but in those split seconds we dont see, anything could be being shown. I have also being thinking recently that the disrubted sound could also be being used to train our brains or brain wash.

Anyway last night i was thinking the same thing, why is it 2012 and what is going to happen to the empty bandwidth once all the tv channels stop broadcasting via the analogue signal. Blue beam was my first conclusion, but also this could be used together with other forms of waves like HAARP, TERTA and alike to control us more and more. Who know's thought crimes could be detected this way by 2012, as the analogue signal is all around us all the time, they wont turn it off, they will use it for something else.

We should try and find out which government body is in charge of this and ask them what's going to happen to the empty bandwidth, if they answer military i think we can expect thought crimes and blue beam to become reality.

Hi TS

I'm doing good thanks honey & hope you are too!:D

Hehe syncro eh! Yeah I've heard a few negative things about digital too, whether they're all true I really don't know, but it certainly makes you think doesn't it. When people at work tell me they're getting their new 42" HDTV's, I sort of cringe a bit & am thankful that I don't have one! Plus the fact that I hardly ever watch tv these days either.

Have you checked out the James Casbolt information about this? I'm only halfway through it, but there's some interesting (& rather sinister:eek:) things being discussed there about this subject, definitely worth a look IMO.

I also personally don't think it's worth asking 'them' what they're gonna use it for, cos we're really not gonna get a truthful answer from them are we!!:rolleyes::(

[pri01]

Could it be some sort of surveillance plan? Who knows we could already be monitored in our own homes right now. This thought came to me once when I was on the phone to a SKY tv operative sorting out a tech problem I had with my sky box. They could be listening to us as I realised they can see right into that little box beneath my tv whenever they want.

[on the road]

A while ago i phoned the local water board up complaining about a chemical taste in the drinking water.the man said that offwat had requested that they put some chlorine in it to kill some bugs.

while i was on the subject i asked him if there was any flouride in our water.

he told me that there wasnt and your local council has to ask for it to be put in.he said there was only three places in england that had flouride and one of these places was none other that whitehaven..

hhmmm

[pri01]

Are they allowed to just chuck in a batch of chlorine to kill off some bugs without warning general public. I don't drink tap water, but if I did I would want to use alternatives other than that which is found in a swimming pool.

[on the road]

Are they allowed to just chuck in a batch of chlorine to kill off some bugs without warning general public. I don't drink tap water, but if I did I would want to use alternatives other than that which is found in a swimming pool.

yes they are.

[ryanc]

Here in the US, the digital/high definition switchover is due to be completed in 2009. Apparently, the "old" spectrum will then just sit there unused for the rest of time even though in the US---technically speaking---the airwaves are a commonwealth or public trust that, again at least technically, corporations are charged money to utilize in exchange for providing a certain amount of airtime free to the public and paying for the broadcast spectrum they are using.

However, ture to form, in 1994 Congress gavve the entire digital/HD spectrum away to the corporations for free, even though the fees they could have charged for it were estimated to be high enough to pay off the entire national debt. Not just the deficit, then entire debt. Oh, and all public-interest-airtime regulations were quietly mothballed years ago, as well, so that part about giving part of the airwaves back to the public that owns them is gone, too.

I wrote a letter to my congressman suggesting that perhaps they should give all of the "old" spectrum back to the public for free and let us use it for whatever purposes we want since the corporations won't be using it anymore anyway, but when I finally got a reply it said it was too late and while my idea was good, it was a shame no one suggested it back in 1994. So I guess there's going to be a lot of "dead air" out there on the broadcast spectrum which could be put to use in the legitimate public interest. Was there ever any doubt this is just how the situation would play itself out?

[mcmenek1]

Hiya lookfar,

Yeah when I first heard about this and the date 2012 I thought yeah they are up to something with this.....its probably to do with freeing up the air ways for a sinister purpose they are trying to shut us down vibrationally to stop us waking up and fully connecting with our true selves......I know that certain wave lengths can have a negative effect on our DNA......our DNA is in effect a receiver/transmitter..........I don't trust them with this.........:(


Love
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Peace

[on the road]

yep flouride....:rolleyes:

and now the first place in the uk to have their frequency changed to digital who knows what they are up to.

maybe with this higher/lower frequency, plus the mind control drug ,they will be easier to manipulate ?

coincidence?

I dont trust anything they do

[lookfar]

Could it be some sort of surveillance plan? Who knows we could already be monitored in our own homes right now. This thought came to me once when I was on the phone to a SKY tv operative sorting out a tech problem I had with my sky box. They could be listening to us as I realised they can see right into that little box beneath my tv whenever they want.

Could well be pri01, they have technological capabilities that are mind blowing & we are definitely getting closer to a total Orwellian state, that's for sure!!:( I try not to let it get me down though, cos it's all gonna backfire on them in the end!!:D

[lookfar]

Here in the US, the digital/high definition switchover is due to be completed in 2009. Apparently, the "old" spectrum will then just sit there unused for the rest of time even though in the US---technically speaking---the airwaves are a commonwealth or public trust that, again at least technically, corporations are charged money to utilize in exchange for providing a certain amount of airtime free to the public and paying for the broadcast spectrum they are using.

However, ture to form, in 1994 Congress gavve the entire digital/HD spectrum away to the corporations for free, even though the fees they could have charged for it were estimated to be high enough to pay off the entire national debt. Not just the deficit, then entire debt. Oh, and all public-interest-airtime regulations were quietly mothballed years ago, as well, so that part about giving part of the airwaves back to the public that owns them is gone, too.

I wrote a letter to my congressman suggesting that perhaps they should give all of the "old" spectrum back to the public for free and let us use it for whatever purposes we want since the corporations won't be using it anymore anyway, but when I finally got a reply it said it was too late and while my idea was good, it was a shame no one suggested it back in 1994. So I guess there's going to be a lot of "dead air" out there on the broadcast spectrum which could be put to use in the legitimate public interest. Was there ever any doubt this is just how the situation would play itself out?

Hi ryanc

Hmm, the actions they've taken speak for themselves don't they :(

What a great idea to give them back to the public to use, just a shame that's not part of their agenda eh!

[lookfar]

Hiya lookfar,

Yeah when I first heard about this and the date 2012 I thought yeah they are up to something with this.....its probably to do with freeing up the air ways for a sinister purpose they are trying to shut us down vibrationally to stop us waking up and fully connecting with our true selves......I know that certain wave lengths can have a negative effect on our DNA......our DNA is in effect a receiver/transmitter..........I don't trust them with this.........:(

Love
&
Peace

Hi mcmenek

Yeah this situation does raise alarm bells for sure doesn't it! I reckon that's exactly what their plan is, plus the likes of Bluebeam etc that klinker mentioned.

We're already being bombarded left, right & centre & it's just not quite enough, so they're having to try from all angles :(

[dinachick]

This JC Interview about Project Mannequin is absolutely horrifying, and if this is true, we had better unplug the TV and all the other electronics. On the other hand, someone in the grassroots movement ( Don and Carol Croft?) could invent something else to counteract these frequency waves in some way, something small you would wear on your person (can you tell I don't know my physics?). It could be like a succor punch but geared for the underlying frequency of fear they are directing towards us. It won't be enough just to unplug as this frequency will be all around us being broadcast by the towers etc. This is SO diabolical, I really want off this planet right now. I don't remember agreeing to come here in the first place, I must have been out of my mind!

[gold]

Could it be some sort of surveillance plan? Who knows we could already be monitored in our own homes right now. This thought came to me once when I was on the phone to a SKY tv operative sorting out a tech problem I had with my sky box. They could be listening to us as I realised they can see right into that little box beneath my tv whenever they want.

I think you may have a good point here! There are some things, and this is one of them, that people seem to shun off for some reason! O well I hope they've surveyed me, it will give them something to worry about!!!

[gold]

Hiya lookfar,

Yeah when I first heard about this and the date 2012 I thought yeah they are up to something with this.....its probably to do with freeing up the air ways for a sinister purpose they are trying to shut us down vibrationally to stop us waking up and fully connecting with our true selves......I know that certain wave lengths can have a negative effect on our DNA......our DNA is in effect a receiver/transmitter..........I don't trust them with this.........:(


Love
&
Peace

Hi mcmeneki1, I'm all into protecting DNA, but how? These frequencies there are using are really beginning to give me the jitterbugs!

[hagbard_celine]

Could well be pri01, they have technological capabilities that are mind blowing & we are definitely getting closer to a total Orwellian state, that's for sure!!:( I try not to let it get me down though, cos it's all gonna backfire on them in the end!!:D

One thing it will mean is that they can control our own TV sets remotely. In the good old days of TV, each set was an independant receiver that simply picked up a broadcast; and the owner of the set had complete control over what part of the broadcast they wished to view. It was unsubscribed and totally unregulated. It was also unmonitored and impossible for the station to know whether or not you were watching them. Digital is different. The station itself can control what you watch because your own TV set, that you buy with your own money, is not independant but part of a computerized netork. The network consists of a number of wireless and cable signals that are decoded by the station, though the digibox on top of your set. Remember David's own experience with the sports channel he bought? There are fundamental implications here for media freedom. I'll give you an example. In this fictional story (I wrote it actually) an island's population has declared itself an independant nation and has been attacked by the military. They've set up a blackade of naval ships and, as it turns out, an electronic bloackade:

“There’s nothing I can do, Mum.” Kayleigh was holding back tears as she looked at her mother’s face on the laptop screen. Her father was standing behind her and in the background was the kitchen of her house in Glasgow.
“God, I wish you’d never got involved in all this!” came her mother's voice through the speakers.
“Well, I have. I can’t turn the clock back so I’ll just have to make the best of it.” She longed to be with them in her house on the other side of the screen.
“But, Kay… Isn’t there a boat you can jump into and just get the hell out?”
She shook her head. “The island’s being blockaded by the Navy. Nobody goes out or comes in alive.”
Her mother put a tissue to her mouth and sniffed; her father put a hand on her shoulder.
“Mum, I know you don’t believe everything you read in the papers, but…”
“It’s alright, Sweetie; we’re both just worried for you if it comes to fighting.”
“I’ll keep my head down and…” The screen suddenly went blank.
“Mum!... Dad!” She tapped the keyboard, but nothing happened. Then a message appeared on the screen: Error. Cellular modem connection terminated. Contact internet service provider for further advice. “Shit!... Dill!”
At the moment she called his name he burst in through the door. “Kayleigh, are you cut off too?”
“Yeah.”
“They’re struck us off the Net!”


This story is set in the near future when all communication is centralized through a digital network. In years gone by, the islanders' TV sets and radiotelephones would have been unreachable by the authorities and impossible to censor. So long as radio waves were reaching the islands their TV and radioes could have picked them up and the sets' owners alone would have controlled it. But not with the new digital system!

[exmicrochipmafia]

All I know, is that when 911 hit, EVERY SINGLE TV station carried the non stop coverage all day. It's like it was all centrally controlled and they wanted to pervade our psyches and left no escape through traditional media.

Makes me wonder about what's coming in the future.
Personally I will not be going digital, or HD. I'd just as soon as read a book, go fishing, or paint, or EVEN talk to my wife. :p

[gold]

I dunno? All this it actually becoming so Orwellian, and Its happening so quick now!

[de_shit]

I saw something pertaining to that on a tv at the store I work at. I think its a move to make sure people pay the cable companies because people that have antennas get free tv service and the cable guys don't like that. So they finally got the democrat congress to vote for the bill. Fucking asshole Democrats didn't do a god damn thing they were expected to do. Ever since the Democrats captured congress I knew they would do the same shit the Republicans will do.

[de_shit]

Lets all purchase guns, and stock up on ammunition, and then when the authorities come and get us in the year 2030 for being on a "terrorist site" such as this one, we will kill them and keep our freedom. Thats what I'm going to do. Ill fucking buy Kevlar vests and shit.

[lilly555]

I just thought that maybe it's a big-bro thing. Like on the internet they can see exactly which sites you are on. With digital cable it will prolly be a lot more detailed for them to research what you watch and when. Which imo is a big deal to them as it really delves into why we watch and when. Furthering the spin.

[de_shit]

Oh well. I bet the law loves my internet viewing habits. They see this site for a couple hours and then a shit load of porn sites for a long ass time. They feel stupid.

[lilly555]

Wow it's like we are twins or something.

Weird.:eek::D

[on the road]

Lets all purchase guns, and stock up on ammunition, and then when the authorities come and get us in the year 2030 for being on a "terrorist site" such as this one, we will kill them and keep our freedom. Thats what I'm going to do. Ill fucking buy Kevlar vests and shit.

yeah killing is good init?

you can be the king of guns and shit yeah

[gold]

yeah killing is good init?

you can be the king of guns and shit yeah

I don't condone killing in any way, but if it came to me or them, I'd shoot;

[mcmenek1]

Hi mcmeneki1, I'm all into protecting DNA, but how? These frequencies there are using are really beginning to give me the jitterbugs!

Hi gold,

I think the best way to protect your DNA is to try and limit your exposure to things that can have a negative effect on it...... for example using mobile phones a lot, watching T.V. is a double negative because you have the electromagnetic radiation given off by the T.V. which is a lot and you have the constant subconscious programming that takes place via the T.V. programs......

The majority of programs are designed to have an effect on your emotions causing you to feel fear, anger and generally keep you in a negative state of mind which all has a negative effect on your DNA...... its all about exposing yourself to positive vibration frequencies so in stead of watching the T.V. go for a walk in the country oh and don't take your mobile phone with you......its about getting back to a natural balanced environment that allows our DNA to resonate with the vibration frequencies it was designed for.........:)

Love
&
Peace

[hagbard_celine]

Lets all purchase guns, and stock up on ammunition, and then when the authorities come and get us in the year 2030 for being on a "terrorist site" such as this one, we will kill them and keep our freedom. Thats what I'm going to do. Ill fucking buy Kevlar vests and shit.


If Illuminati troops were bearing down on me and my loved ones and I had a gun in my hand, or course I'd use it! But what then?

Arming yourself and forming militias will only protect you in a very limited short-term way. You can't fight the Illuminati with force. To begin with who and at what do you shoot? Do you have a list of names and addresses? They're everywhere! Also if we went out and killed every single one of the Illuminati Primi today it wouldn't take us long to manifest a new Illuminati. The real enemy is no person or organization, it's not even Reptillians from the fourth dimension! The real enemy is our own thoughts, feelings and state of mind. The Loomies are here because we let them in! It's as simple as that.