UK Chemtrails

[hagbard_celine]

Odd chentrail activity during the weekend meet-up in the Peak District.:confused: There were none on Saturday morning, but then they suddenly began spraying at about 1PM. Then there were none at all on Sunday.

[john connor]

They are going over 3's,

[john connor]

Another President same shit, HOPE we have 2 hopes Bob Hope and No fuckin Hope, the sky is full of the crap again and no one in the streets notices, everyone is coughing and having breathing problems here at work, 7 weeks I've had a damn cough now, yet if Big Brother got taken off the telly their would be riots...

[papiere bitte]

i saw a shed load of chemtrails around york (uk) on the afternoon of 6 january`09,　they were really going for it, i reckoned 15-20 different trails, merging together. its also bloody freezing at the `mo and before them it WASNT cloudy and the sun was actually quite warm.
anyone else around york also look up?

On January 6th 2009 I witnessed the worst spraying I have ever seen in South Wales.

I cannot believe people are ignoring this stuff, it makes me feel sick to see a perfectly clear blue sky turned into a complete mess.

When I woke up it was really nice, sunny and warm - clear skies.
At about 9am the spraying commenced and it did not stop for the whole day, to about 5pm. I've never seen so many planes in the sky at once, thankfully I did see someone else taking concern and photographing the trails but most people laugh in my face for suggesting such a thing.

[cleopatraxxx]

OK< i promised long ago, i finally sussed how to do it with realfake's help. thank you realfake.

someone else tried helping me before, i then had no time due to geographical repositioning of my life, LOL

anyway, here we go:
this is now in the UK, last year pics:

http://usera.ImageCave.com/Cleopatraxxx/21J009-UK-WYork/Photo0166.jpg

http://usera.ImageCave.com/Cleopatraxxx/21J009-UK-WYork/Photo0167.jpg

http://usera.ImageCave.com/Cleopatraxxx/21J009-UK-WYork/Photo0173.jpg

http://usera.ImageCave.com/Cleopatraxxx/21J009-UK-WYork/Photo0163.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

Chemtrails are back in Oxford!:eek: I saw some yesterday, but I also saw some sylphs, so maybe they were waiting!:cool: Thanks, Sylphs!:)

[anthony65]

On January 6th 2009 I witnessed the worst spraying I have ever seen in South Wales.

I cannot believe people are ignoring this stuff, it makes me feel sick to see a perfectly clear blue sky turned into a complete mess.

When I woke up it was really nice, sunny and warm - clear skies.
At about 9am the spraying commenced and it did not stop for the whole day, to about 5pm. I've never seen so many planes in the sky at once, thankfully I did see someone else taking concern and photographing the trails but most people laugh in my face for suggesting such a thing.

A simple, but excellent point. :)

Forget all the chemtrails theories, patents, official papers, videos, geoengineering, Haarp etc.

And ask yourself why do we allow beautiful blue skies to be turned into an off white curtain of mist?

Regardless of what people believe or don't believe about chemtrails.

Watch the skies!

Watch how a beautiful blue sky is gradually filled with lines left by numerous aircraft.

Watch how these lines stay in the sky for hours, gradually expanding until they make contact with their neighbours.

Watch your blue sky disappear (and count yourself relatively fortunate if you even got a glimpse of blue skies to begin with, rather than the white skies or at best a pale and sickly blue.

What are all these aircraft up there?

Commercial flights?

Why is there no tax on aviation fuel?

Why do we have all these cheap flight airlines?

Aren't our governments supposed to be concerned about CO2 emissions?

I hope that one of the benefits of the recession / depression will be an end of the cheap flight nightmare.

I do believe that chemtrails exist and I believe that there is perfectly good evidence to support that belief.

But if anybody refuses to believe that there are chemtrails...

Watch the skies anyway and ask yourself what are the consequences of blocking out sunlight the way they do?

What are the health and environmental effects of all those shitty planes up there spewing their filth into the atmosphere.

I heard recently that aircraft fuel is full of shit. And that it is common practice for planes to dump their fuel over specified territories, in Germany, for example, over some areas of the Black forest.

Yuk! :(

[anthony65]

The blue skies I reported earlier in the day are disappearing fast. :(

The satellite pics here show very clearly how our blue sky has been chemtrailed away today:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=24fbmll&s=5

Look at the centre left of the image and note how the thin "cloud" heads right. If you look carefully you'll clearly see the many, many chemtrail lines. As the lines hang around and are blown by the wind, they start to fill the sky. And the more shit in the sky, the better the later chemtrails start to stick.

This morning we had lots of planes, but relatively few trails were sticking, and even these were only sticking in places.

** I did get to go for a walk in the sunlight though, before the whiteout came. And there's still some blue up there... :)

[lilloz]

why do they want to block out the sunlight??
It was a really nice sunny still day on Tuesday the air was fresh here, then the planes started one after the other making lines then crosses then after about three hours they all joined up and we were covered by thick grey cloud, then the weather turned really nasty gale force winds heavy rain I thought the caravan was going to end up in the pond :’(

[papiere bitte]

These are not civilian/commercial flights, they do not follow any recognisable flight paths.

I would be quite confident in assuming they are military planes, they fly in echelon formation and often in very tight airspace.

There's no way commercial aircraft would fly in such a manner, I've seen planes stop trailing and then make a 180 degree turn heading back over the Bristol channel.

I guess such an operation would be highly classified rendering any "Freedom on information" requests useless. I think it is a large scale, American military operation as to my knowledge, Chemtrails are only found in NATO countries (as well as a small few non NATO countries like Australia - I think most nations with US Airbases in them fall victim to chemtrails)



Also, I don't think CO2 is killing the world - global warming is a distraction. Whilst I still think we should aim to be as green as possible/ cutting down on our transport is not the way to go. We just need to replace dirty combustion engines in cars with electric or air powered engines.

Low cost airlines are a good thing, more power to us.

[hagbard_celine]

These are not civilian/commercial flights, they do not follow any recognisable flight paths.

I would be quite confident in assuming they are military planes, they fly in echelon formation and often in very tight airspace.

There's no way commercial aircraft would fly in such a manner, I've seen planes stop trailing and then make a 180 degree turn heading back over the Bristol channel.

I guess such an operation would be highly classified rendering any "Freedom on information" requests useless. I think it is a large scale, American military operation as to my knowledge, Chemtrails are only found in NATO countries (as well as a small few non NATO countries like Australia - I think most nations with US Airbases in them fall victim to chemtrails)



Also, I don't think CO2 is killing the world - global warming is a distraction. Whilst I still think we should aim to be as green as possible/ cutting down on our transport is not the way to go. We just need to replace dirty combustion engines in cars with electric or air powered engines.

Low cost airlines are a good thing, more power to us.

Several people I know have said that chemtrail planes stop and turn back when they get to the sea. Commerical flights wouldn't do that.

The pilots and other people involved are probably doing what they do in good faith. They've probably been told it's a secret project to stop CO2-based global warming. Of course the whole CO2 thing is crap, but they don't know that!:eek: The chemtrail plane pilots can do their job without knowing what is in the stuff they dump.

[beldazar]

Several people I know have said that chemtrail planes stop and turn back when they get to the sea. Commerical flights wouldn't do that.

The pilots and other people involved are probably doing what they do in good faith. They've probably been told it's a secret project to stop CO2-based global warming. Of course the whole CO2 thing is crap, but they don't know that!:eek: The chemtrail plane pilots can do their job without knowing what is in the stuff they dump.


Yes I believe that too. There was a piece about it on this forum somewhere where somebody involved in the spraying said just that!

[lightgiver]

check out my post on this page,and yes you are all correct well most of you ;)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12128&page=124

2nd that,love that track,anyway i have noticed over this pagan holiday period,clear blue skys and bright sunshine where i live and you know what ,hardly a plane in the sky,you see because all the chemtrail pilots are on their chem free holiday,what a surprise,well not really,i am sure in jan mid month it will start clouding over again,maybe they will run out of fuel,hope so.

and yes it is all cloudy again.

[realfake]

Several people I know have said that chemtrail planes stop and turn back when they get to the sea.

This is true, but don't for one second fall into the trap of thinking that the spraying is limited to land. I have a friend who works on cruise ships and she has informed me that this is also taking place out at sea.

I don't expect anyone to just take my word for this. There are plenty of NASA satellite images that back up my claim.

[hagbard_celine]

This is true, but don't for one second fall into the trap of thinking that the spraying is limited to land. I have a friend who works on cruise ships and she has informed me that this is also taking place out at sea.

I don't expect anyone to just take my word for this. There are plenty of NASA satellite images that back up my claim.

Oh, so some of them do go out to sea. Thanks for the info.:cool: This adds a new dimension to the speculation over what the purpose of Chemtrails is.

[cleopatraxxx]

Oh, so some of them do go out to sea. Thanks for the info.:cool: This adds a new dimension to the speculation over what the purpose of Chemtrails is.

i agree with you HagbardCeline

[marpat]

This is true, but don't for one second fall into the trap of thinking that the spraying is limited to land. I have a friend who works on cruise ships and she has informed me that this is also taking place out at sea.

I don't expect anyone to just take my word for this. There are plenty of NASA satellite images that back up my claim.

Thats probably because the same atmospheric effects occur anywhere in the world, unless they wish to poison the fishies.

[hagbard_celine]

unless they wish to poison the fishies.

Sarcasm aside, this may be a very simplistic way to say exactly what they might be trying to do!:D

[realfake]

Oh, so some of them do go out to sea. Thanks for the info.:cool: This adds a new dimension to the speculation over what the purpose of Chemtrails is.

No problemo. I'm clearly not the only poster who is aware of this fact. There was a discussion on an Irish group were people a few months back were talking about how the cloud cover had ruined the solstice at Newgrange this year even though the day before was sunny and a few hours after the famous event. Some poster came on and started talking about how the Irish Sea was covered in jets the night before making really thick "vapour trails" as he called them. Then some other poster came on and said he was an airtraffic controller in Belfast and he said there were dozens of flights up and down the Irish sea that day with the transponders turned off.

[realfake]

Thats probably because the same atmospheric effects occur anywhere in the world, unless they wish to poison the fishies.You are already aware of my thoughts on this.

The point of impasse has just been reached ;)

[gaznix]

ANDREW JOHNSON will be giving a presentation on CHEMTRAILS in THE CROWN PUB, 43, LIME STREET, LIVERPOOL L1 on WEDNESDAY 18TH. FEBRUARY, 2009.

The meeting will be taking place on the first floor, and the pub sells real ale and prices are reasonable! Meeting starts at 7.30pm and admittance is £3.00.

FURTHER DETAILS: chem.trails@yahoo.co.uk

[john connor]

ANDREW JOHNSON will be giving a presentation on CHEMTRAILS in THE CROWN PUB, 43, LIME STREET, LIVERPOOL L1 on WEDNESDAY 18TH. FEBRUARY, 2009.

The meeting will be taking place on the first floor, and the pub sells real ale and prices are reasonable! Meeting starts at 7.30pm and admittance is £3.00.

FURTHER DETAILS: chem.trails@yahoo.co.uk

A subject close to my heart...unfortunantly...shame its too far to go to mid week...who is Andrew Johnson?...sorry no disrespect intended

[realfake]

ANDREW JOHNSON will be giving a presentation on CHEMTRAILS in THE CROWN PUB, 43, LIME STREET, LIVERPOOL L1 on WEDNESDAY 18TH. FEBRUARY, 2009.

The meeting will be taking place on the first floor, and the pub sells real ale and prices are reasonable! Meeting starts at 7.30pm and admittance is £3.00.

FURTHER DETAILS: chem.trails@yahoo.co.uk Anyone planning on attending?

[shodan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by realfake http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=771110#post771110)
This is true, but don't for one second fall into the trap of thinking that the spraying is limited to land. I have a friend who works on cruise ships and she has informed me that this is also taking place out at sea.

I don't expect anyone to just take my word for this. There are plenty of NASA satellite images that back up my claim.


I've noticed more out to sea when there's medium winds blowing inland, and masses of spraying inland when its still and windless. maybe there's something to that?

[steevo]

I've noticed more out to sea when there's medium winds blowing inland, and masses of spraying inland when its still and windless. maybe there's something to that?

I was watching the oil strikes the other day on the BBC News and I noticed in the background (over the sea) that there were clouds almost identicle to the one below. I searched the BBC for the video but I couldnt find it cos i was gonna post it on the forum :-

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00108/pg-2-climate-alamy_108547s.jpg

Source (http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/climate-scientists-its-time-for-plan-b-1221092.html)

[steevo]

Not a single chemtrail in the sky today here. Hardly any planes either, and the sky is blue (a rare sight these days).

[pleasuredome]

a black line caught on camera a few weeks ago...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52153

[cleopatraxxx]

today, the 11th Feb, i saw not one single line in the sky.
only to find out at night around 21 hrs that there were two lines crossing each other...
the moon though is absolutely beautifull!

by the way, i was at the pharmacist the other day and as i was waiting for my antibiotics for my lung treatment, a woman stood there talking to her friend at the counter but quite openly, as if wanting all of us to know about her observation while looking at us individually: " How strange, the amount of affected people by pneumonias, coughs and colds lately, way before all of this snow." She added, " i wonder why, because it hasn't been cold enough to cause so many people ill at the same time"... i didn't even think twice and gently entered the conversation and said: " I heard and investigated online, and apparently, and people aren't yet aware of this fact, but these ilnesses have a great deal to do with the CHEMTRAILS, named after the high content of BARIUM that exists in the contrails left by airplanes in the sky DAILY". Because they were surprised, i continued: " loads of info on this subject on the internet, posted by researchers and journalists. Just have a look for a few days what is hapenning in the skies all over the UK, and i added that i personally have a huge collection of photographs of this and i contribute with them on forums that talk about the subject" and to finish i just said: "BARIUM is absolutely no good for breathing it in. it causes many lung infections and related illnesses... Something is not being told to us, but the mysterious spraying is hapenning and i am affected by it too." So the woman who initiated the conversation said: "Definitely something is not right due to the amount of shortness of breath I see amongst freinds and many peoeple are having". she added, "i never saw anything similar in my life." she must have been between 55-60 y old.

one thing is true, everyone who was present was aware of this conversation held between us gathered at the pharmacist. They HOPEFULLY were ALL left with the seed of info on Chemtrails!

i felt very happy for being able to say what i said.
i think the personnel at the pharmacy was also left with this awareness of info of sky and trails. their faces were really serious when they heard BARIUM mentioned.

[howie]

from december & january

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/341/chem1no0.jpg

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http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4740/chem3rf0.jpg

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The glistening could be aluminium particles reflecting the sun.

[john connor]

today, the 11th Feb, i saw not one single line in the sky.
only to find out at night around 21 hrs that there were two lines crossing each other...
the moon though is absolutely beautifull!

by the way, i was at the pharmacist the other day and as i was waiting for my antibiotics for my lung treatment, a woman stood there talking to her friend at the counter but quite openly, as if wanting all of us to know about her observation while looking at us individually: " How strange, the amount of affected people by pneumonias, coughs and colds lately, way before all of this snow." She added, " i wonder why, because it hasn't been cold enough to cause so many people ill at the same time"... i didn't even think twice and gently entered the conversation and said: " I heard and investigated online, and apparently, and people aren't yet aware of this fact, but these ilnesses have a great deal to do with the CHEMTRAILS, named after the high content of BARIUM that exists in the contrails left by airplanes in the sky DAILY". Because they were surprised, i continued: " loads of info on this subject on the internet, posted by researchers and journalists. Just have a look for a few days what is hapenning in the skies all over the UK, and i added that i personally have a huge collection of photographs of this and i contribute with them on forums that talk about the subject" and to finish i just said: "BARIUM is absolutely no good for breathing it in. it causes many lung infections and related illnesses... Something is not being told to us, but the mysterious spraying is hapenning and i am affected by it too." So the woman who initiated the conversation said: "Definitely something is not right due to the amount of shortness of breath I see amongst freinds and many peoeple are having". she added, "i never saw anything similar in my life." she must have been between 55-60 y old.

one thing is true, everyone who was present was aware of this conversation held between us gathered at the pharmacist. They HOPEFULLY were ALL left with the seed of info on Chemtrails!

i felt very happy for being able to say what i said.
i think the personnel at the pharmacy was also left with this awareness of info of sky and trails. their faces were really serious when they heard BARIUM mentioned.

Way to go Cleo...I have had SOB for about 10 weeks now...wonder how many chemists know about the Codex coming as well

[anthony65]

today, the 11th Feb, i saw not one single line in the sky.
only to find out at night around 21 hrs that there were two lines crossing each other...
the moon though is absolutely beautifull!

by the way, i was at the pharmacist the other day and as i was waiting for my antibiotics for my lung treatment, a woman stood there talking to her friend at the counter but quite openly, as if wanting all of us to know about her observation while looking at us individually: " How strange, the amount of affected people by pneumonias, coughs and colds lately, way before all of this snow." She added, " i wonder why, because it hasn't been cold enough to cause so many people ill at the same time"... i didn't even think twice and gently entered the conversation and said: " I heard and investigated online, and apparently, and people aren't yet aware of this fact, but these ilnesses have a great deal to do with the CHEMTRAILS, named after the high content of BARIUM that exists in the contrails left by airplanes in the sky DAILY". Because they were surprised, i continued: " loads of info on this subject on the internet, posted by researchers and journalists. Just have a look for a few days what is hapenning in the skies all over the UK, and i added that i personally have a huge collection of photographs of this and i contribute with them on forums that talk about the subject" and to finish i just said: "BARIUM is absolutely no good for breathing it in. it causes many lung infections and related illnesses... Something is not being told to us, but the mysterious spraying is hapenning and i am affected by it too." So the woman who initiated the conversation said: "Definitely something is not right due to the amount of shortness of breath I see amongst freinds and many peoeple are having". she added, "i never saw anything similar in my life." she must have been between 55-60 y old.

one thing is true, everyone who was present was aware of this conversation held between us gathered at the pharmacist. They HOPEFULLY were ALL left with the seed of info on Chemtrails!

i felt very happy for being able to say what i said.
i think the personnel at the pharmacy was also left with this awareness of info of sky and trails. their faces were really serious when they heard BARIUM mentioned.

Good work! :)

[anthony65]

from december & january


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The glistening could be aluminium particles reflecting the sun.

Wow!

Excellent photos!

The chemtrails often seem to be pulsed.

See if you can get some good shots of black lines!

And some orbs would be nice! ;)

[anthony65]

Today's satellite pics show that the UK is getting chemtrailed today, but Germany isn't)...

Note the chemtrails in the south of the UK

http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=73hy6p&s=5

And over Germany / Holland no chemtrails

http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=bj99xe&s=5

Spain and Portugal look good too (at least right now)!

http://www.sat24.com/sp

http://www.sat24.com/

[hagbard_celine]

New Chemtrail movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Q8Zxkwxso

[naturalcanvas]

Today's satellite pics show that the UK is getting chemtrailed today, but Germany isn't)...

Note the chemtrails in the south of the UK

http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=73hy6p&s=5

And over Germany / Holland no chemtrails

http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=bj99xe&s=5

Spain and Portugal look good too (at least right now)!

http://www.sat24.com/sp

http://www.sat24.com/

Yep! all over oxford yesterday! Clear blue sky with a criss cross grid of thick white trails around 7.30-8 am by 9.30am it was a sky fine white mist. wish i had battery's for my camera, there was one right above my head.

[howie]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9664/trail1ec2.jpg


top (thin) trail 10 minutes later
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9199/trail2zo9.jpg


I was photographing these trails from earlier when I noticed this plane approaching



http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6494/plane1approachax9.jpg

it's from Eastern Airlines Birmingham or Cardiff


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3374/plane1ga0.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/282/plane1passjj6.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1952/plane1trailif5.jpg

A 2nd jet appears from the opposite direction

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4841/plane2er9.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9798/plane3eq0.jpg

[steevo]

The chemtrails are terrible here today. They go right across the part of the sky where the sun goes.They are blocking out the sun. The sky was blue today arpart from the chemtrails which ruined it.

[john connor]

New Chemtrail movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Q8Zxkwxso

Great movie IMO, but not so new, I've been burning copies of this for months now..Dom T3rr0rist that I'm becoming;)

East Midlands has been blitzed with the scumbags today as well..saw a round Chembow today..

[sorath]

I made the mistake of trying to point out a chemtrail to someone at work today. the response was "bahhhh bahhhh bahhhhh" so I just relented.

I was wondering if anyone with a telescope could take better pictures of these planes to see if they have any markings.

[hagbard_celine]

I saw two go over at about 6.30 yesterday morning, they were side by side and about the same altitude. One evaporated within 5 minutes, but the other lingered and spread out to form a cloud.:confused: A few more normal contrails accompanied them. There were no other clouds around, nor any visible sylphs.

[spock]

here is a pic i took of a Rainbow after some trails last year.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/04122008120.jpg


good pics howie!

[cleopatraxxx]

great picture Howie,
and everyone else...

here too, in WYorkshire all day loads of chemtrails all over.

i am on amoxicilin to eliminate the unexplained pulmonary infeccion they say i have, you know what? i am not even going to bother going to the doctors anymore. what for? they DON't KNOW what we have!!!

stuff them
when their kids will suffer from the same and start dying , maybe then they will want to find out WHAT has been hapenning all over our heads

:(:mad:

[anthony65]

Here in Germany we had a beautiful day on Saturday. Blue skies, sunshine and fluffy white clouds. Not a single trail stuck all day! We went sledging with kids: Wonderful! :)

Sunday morning, we woke up early to chemtrails (and early means at first light). We still had blue skies over us, but the skies in the distance were full of trails, which stuck, widened and drifted towards us. As the sky filled with shitty artificial clouds, more trails started sticking above us; but not all of them. Eventually there was a chemtrail whiteout... :(

But it snowed in the night and it's still snowing, so maybe when the clouds disappear we'll get more blue skies again. :)

What a difference it makes on a blue sky day! :)

[rjl9332]

im gonna post another CT video soon but in the meantime just wanted to say that if you are in hertfordshire now you should be able to look up and see a total halo round the sun. unprecedented stuff. the last two days has been the heaviest chemtrailing i've ever seen since i started noticing it.

[spock]

i could see loads today through the breaks in the clouds,
and i noticed some the other night too.

[rjl9332]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

I made this today, all footage and photos except for the circular chemtrail patterns are from Hertfordshire, over the last 8 months.

[mcmenek1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

I made this today, all footage and photos except for the circular chemtrail patterns are from Hertfordshire, over the last 8 months.

Hi rjl9332,

Great work thanks for sharing :).......I liked the fixed camera position showing the chemtrail activity through the day.......nice one

Love
&
Peace

[cleopatraxxx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

I made this today, all footage and photos except for the circular chemtrail patterns are from Hertfordshire, over the last 8 months.

Brilliant footage rjl9332

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Cleo

[john connor]

Great work rjl9332

[rjl9332]

Thanks all

Would appreciate ratings and comments. My vids are starting to suffer from declining views!! Funny that isn't it ;)

[beldazar]

Thanks all

Would appreciate ratings and comments. My vids are starting to suffer from declining views!! Funny that isn't it ;)


Nice one mate, lets hope you get more views now eh? ;)

[realfake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

I made this today, all footage and photos except for the circular chemtrail patterns are from Hertfordshire, over the last 8 months. Excellent video, rjl9332. Your time lapse footage is quite telling.

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

I made this today, all footage and photos except for the circular chemtrail patterns are from Hertfordshire, over the last 8 months.

Excellent piece of cinema, RJL!:) This could become a chemtrail classic to stand beside Cliff Carnicom's films. I particularly like the sinister time-lapse in the beginning. The skies of Herts show the same symptoms as those elsewhere, the chemtrails are always accompanied by unnatural cloud formation that seems to be attracted to the trails in some strange way. It's as if the sky becomes drenched in white paint.

[papiere bitte]

Loads of chemtrails this week, Monday and Friday (today)

The skies of South Wales covered, people still completely oblivious to their existence.

[john connor]

spraying again in the East Midlands:mad:

[rjl9332]

Excellent video, rjl9332. Your time lapse footage is quite telling.

it really is quite unchallengable isnt it? the time lapse devastates most arguments because you can clearly see the planes lead the sun around the horizon. like a giant umbrella being deployed round the earth. god knows what other shit is in them!

[dawnismygoddess]

Awesome video dude. I love that part were there are 4 going at the same time! Totally insane.

[howie]

AWAC & Commercial jet


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3324/chem2zd7.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1889/chem1tt6.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5406/awac3rl6.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/170/awac1fq3.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5747/awacxb4.jpg


30 mins later

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6475/trails.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1148/trails2.jpg

[realfake]

it really is quite unchallengable isnt it? the time lapse devastates most arguments because you can clearly see the planes lead the sun around the horizon. l like a giant umbrella being deployed round the earth. god knows what other shit is in them!Not only does the Sun often dictate flightpath, they also like to quite literally orbit its position in the sky. I watched two planes make a number of complete 'elliptical orbits' round the Sun this afternoon.

These images were taken with my crappy N95, but you can still make out the sprayed rings.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9759/01ei2.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01ei2.jpg) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4131/02hl4.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02hl4.jpg) http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9778/03ju2.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03ju2.jpg) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1705/04vh1.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04vh1.jpg) http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1143/05is9.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05is9.jpg)

A time-lapse of these planes 'going round in circles' would bury the usual arguments that pop up.

[beldazar]

A time-lapse of these planes 'going round in circles' would bury the usual arguments that pop up.



You would think so hey! :D

[realfake]

You would think so hey! :D Aye, call it wishful thinking ;)

[legi0noftruth]

I've seen and filmed an airplane circling the sun like that - it came around twice and was very majestic for such a large aircraft ..I noticed what looked like an anomaly, but on closer inspection was the radome of a Boeing E3 Sentry - so it was definately military.

I have been filming these trails around Norwich for the past 9 months - this is not a conspiracy ..Norwich is surrounded by military airspace - we have days like today, when there is no planes and he sky is a bright blue with white fluffy clouds (my friend described it perfectly as a 'Simpsons sky') ..this has not been noted since Christmas.

..or most other days, when ther are planes all over and the sky is turned into a complete 'white-out' mush that blocks the sun.

Please view some of my recent uploads on Youtube.

FIGHTER JETS SPRAYING CHEMTRAILS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6TWxQEME04
F15 Strike Eagles left a perfect circle in 2004, which made the news - I caught them again spraying chemtrails above the City.

CHEMTRAIL ...SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IXHRc8DaPQ
Two timelapses from last Summer - one with planes and trails, the other without a single airplane.

SMART DUST, AIRBORNE IN THE UK?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQMj-v5f4m0
Ever thought there was too much dust in the atmosphere - this could be the answer. total surveillance and another reason for chemtrails.

KMFDM - WORLD WAR III (CHEMTRAIL DESTRUCTION)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-GfwLRTThU
Compilation of footage.

TRIGGER HAPPY CHEMTRAIL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBpqBgWIeFg&feature=related
On/Off aerosol spraying

...Enjoy!

[dawnismygoddess]

Awesome videos LoT! Thanks for taking the time and effort, it really shows in you works.

Oh, and welcome to the forum :)

[legi0noftruth]

Thanks for the welcome.

Also found this link - The trailer for a new film called 'Toxic Skies'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GltNOV55QAI

The content is remarkable.

[woodman]

I live in, Huyton, Liverpool, England

So do I, loads of "chemtrails" over huyton earlier today.

[papiere bitte]

The sky is white today, it's a completely clear sky, it's just white.


I can't bring myself to feel angry any more, just sad.

[gaznix]

This weekend we have been hammered by chemtrails......:eek:

on a lighter not we hammered Man Ure 4-1:D

don't forget our BKS Meeting on Thursday 19th March at The Crown Hotel, Lime St, Liverpool L1. Doors open 7.30pm for an 8pm start.

http://www.beyondknowledgeseminars.com/links.html

See you THERE!!!

[flyermay]

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trails1.jpg
Yesterday, Wednesday 18th March 2009, I witnessed along other witnesses, an unusual phenomenon over the skies of West London. Usually, the sky over London is quite clear from any trails, though there are always a couple of planes visible at low altitude (one flying towards Heathrow and another one flying away from the airport). However, at 5:30pm I noticed two huge trails forming an X over the sky of West London. I stopped for a couple of minutes to look at them, and suddenly, out of nowhere, a lot of airplanes started to cross the sky at high altitude from all directions. At one point I counted up to 7 planes at the same time over the sky at high altitude (apart from the ones operating at low altitude around Heathrow airport).

I agree that this could sound normal -to a certain extent- but I noticed two other things that made the case even weirder. The first thing is that none of the planes left any trails beyond a point of the sky. I mean, it seemed that all of them started leaving trials at a certain longitude, and the ones coming towards that point left no trails after reaching that region of the sky. The trails where only visible on the West side of London (some kilometres west of my house); as you can see in the pictures I sent. It was really odd, I could even see the moment when the aircrafts started the chemtrails; it was the same case as when an acrobatic plane turns on the smoke and leaves those small smoke bubbles all along the beginning of the trail. In any case, nothing like a change in altitude (as this wouldn't explain the smoke bubbles, plus the fact that the planes were flying at an apparent same height.

The other strange thing I noticed was that once in a while you could see a plain that left a normal trails, that is, a trail that formed just behind the plane and disappeared at a fixed distance (you can see this twice on the pictures too). So it was strange to see some of the planes leaving huge trails that expanded along the sky and stayed forever, and other planes just leaving a small trail that disappeared in a normal way seconds after.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trails2.jpg
Half an hour later, as suddenly as it started, the airplanes disappeared, and the sky went back to the normal two planes flying in and out of Heathrow. Well... unless the trails, that expanded until they left a well visible mist that contrasted with the blue skies above. Night fell soon after, though the mist was still visible and a strange smell started to reach my home (closing the windows seemed to stop it).

It might also be worth mentioning that that same day at noon, just a few hours before the trails, there was an unusual activity of military aircrafts flying over London (I imagine that they were military because they were dark and flew quite low at high speeds). But obviously, I can't assure it is related with the chemtrails.

Note: As of today, 2 days after the event, the sky remained clear of trails and aircraft -not even a single trail for more than a few minutes. The air traffic also went back to normal: just a pair of airplanes from and to Heathrow; plus the sporadic one at high altitude. Bottom line, the usual clear skies ever since.

[revolutionplease]

hi all i live on the east coast of scotland ,fife to be exact . I first noticed chemtrails in 2005,I came home from work one early afternoon for lunch and noticed tic tac toe smoke trails in the sky, didnt think much of it at the time but then i started to notice it more and more,but instead of tic tac toe smoke trails it was big X's in the skys ,at the time this was happening edinburgh airport was gettting a new runway so i put it down to more traffic in the air, so again didnt think much of it ,but then in early 2008 i had a small accident at work so i was off work for 3 months or so,i was doing a bit surffing on the net to pass my days away i stumbled on videos on you tube ,well my jaw hit the fucking ground when i watched and read some of the articles .Since stumbling on this i have noticed that they (WHO THEY ARE I DONT KNOW) have started sparying on a daily basis ,AND ITS REALLY starting to make me very angry indeed ,please could someone give me some information to were and how i can start complaining about this,its getting beond a joke now ,and you no what im the only person that seems to be noticing this my friends and family dont have a clue to whats happening right above there heads .

[flyermay]

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trail4.jpg
For the past few days after my report on the 18th the skies of West London have been fairly clean (as far as I've been aware of); I didn't see any unusual aircraft activities or any permanent trails over the sky (though I've been on the watch since the 18th) -apart from the usual traffic around Heathrow and the occasional high altitude plane that produced normal trails that disappeared in minutes. However, today Sunday 22nd at 5pm, the sky is again fully covered by trails. I noticed that this is around the same time I saw them the other day, which seems odd; as at any other time the sky is trail free (at least towards the West). But this time they seemed to focus on the Southwest area of London, which as you can see is fully covered, contrasting with the clear skies over the West and North West regions visible from my window.

And again, as well as they first day that I witnessed it, in a about just an hour, all the high altitude planes dissapeared and the trails came down forming a light mist, which again contrasts with the blue skies above (as you can see in the second picture), which only covered the Southwest reagion of London, being the Northwest portion of the city clear.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trails4.jpg
If I tell you the truth, until last week I wasn't fully convinced that these trails were nothing more than a natural effect of the plane’s jet engines. However, due to the patterns I witnessed in terms or areas targeted, time at which they appear, plus the fact that I saw some planes leaving normal trails and chemtrails at the same time, and that I also saw various times the exact moment when the "spraying" is turned on (matching the region of the sky targeted), leaves me no doubt that this is far more than a coincidence, and that anyone would have a hard time convincing me that there is nothing to be worried about.

[steevo]

Thanks! :)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3624/chemtrails1.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2034/chemtrails2.jpg

[anthony65]

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trails1.jpg
Yesterday, Wednesday 18th March 2009, I witnessed along other witnesses, an unusual phenomenon over the skies of West London. Usually, the sky over London is quite clear from any trails, though there are always a couple of planes visible at low altitude (one flying towards Heathrow and another one flying away from the airport). However, at 5:30pm I noticed two huge trails forming an X over the sky of West London. I stopped for a couple of minutes to look at them, and suddenly, out of nowhere, a lot of airplanes started to cross the sky at high altitude from all directions. At one point I counted up to 7 planes at the same time over the sky at high altitude (apart from the ones operating at low altitude around Heathrow airport).

I agree that this could sound normal -to a certain extent- but I noticed two other things that made the case even weirder. The first thing is that none of the planes left any trails beyond a point of the sky. I mean, it seemed that all of them started leaving trials at a certain longitude, and the ones coming towards that point left no trails after reaching that region of the sky. The trails where only visible on the West side of London (some kilometres west of my house); as you can see in the pictures I sent. It was really odd, I could even see the moment when the aircrafts started the chemtrails; it was the same case as when an acrobatic plane turns on the smoke and leaves those small smoke bubbles all along the beginning of the trail. In any case, nothing like a change in altitude (as this wouldn't explain the smoke bubbles, plus the fact that the planes were flying at an apparent same height.

The other strange thing I noticed was that once in a while you could see a plain that left a normal trails, that is, a trail that formed just behind the plane and disappeared at a fixed distance (you can see this twice on the pictures too). So it was strange to see some of the planes leaving huge trails that expanded along the sky and stayed forever, and other planes just leaving a small trail that disappeared in a normal way seconds after.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/trails2.jpg
Half an hour later, as suddenly as it started, the airplanes disappeared, and the sky went back to the normal two planes flying in and out of Heathrow. Well... unless the trails, that expanded until they left a well visible mist that contrasted with the blue skies above. Night fell soon after, though the mist was still visible and a strange smell started to reach my home (closing the windows seemed to stop it).

It might also be worth mentioning that that same day at noon, just a few hours before the trails, there was an unusual activity of military aircrafts flying over London (I imagine that they were military because they were dark and flew quite low at high speeds). But obviously, I can't assure it is related with the chemtrails.

Note: As of today, 2 days after the event, the sky remained clear of trails and aircraft -not even a single trail for more than a few minutes. The air traffic also went back to normal: just a pair of airplanes from and to Heathrow; plus the sporadic one at high altitude. Bottom line, the usual clear skies ever since.


Excellent post and very encouraging!

It looks like someone has been gifting orgonite in West London! :)

We visited Cologne at the weekend and the skies over much of Germany were excellent on Saturday, with the exception of the sky above some of the big TV towers along the way.... :rolleyes:

On Sunday, the chemtrails were sticking a lot more (although it was pretty cloudy so hard to tell sometimes).

What I could clearly see was how some planes were flying much higher than the chemtrails but their trails were not sticking.

[flyermay]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2753

Since my last sighting on the 22nd of March, the sky over West London has be completely free from any sort of trails. With the exception of normal air traffic, which leave standard trails that fade in seconds (see picture below).

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2756

I know that most of you would think that if this is the case, they is nothing to report. But isn't it odd that all the chemtrails appear on the same day and time? I mean, if it was a normal phenomenon, shouldn’t it happen every day at random times? That's something that the sceptics have to think about.

Another strange issue that I noticed on the day of the last sighting (just after my post), were these 2 planes flying head by head at high speed; both of the leaving clear chemtrails. I find it odd that 2 civilian planes would cross the sky at the same altitude and speed, just after the sky has been crossed by dozens of trails.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2757

In any case, it's nice to think that since I'm keeping an eye on the skies of West London the frequency with which they target us seems to go down :)

[howie]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6497/13mar.jpg

[howie]

New camera :)


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2420/chemt1.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4167/onoff.jpg

They always leave a con/chemtrail on this flight path, this one switches off/on/off

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/308/notrail.jpg


not sure what this is? :eek:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6646/ufo2.jpg

[cleopatraxxx]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6497/13mar.jpg

very very nice pics! thanks

well this one shows HAARP activity/ the shapes on the clouds are far from natural.

fabulous shot ;):):):):)

[anthony65]

New camera :)


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2420/chemt1.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4167/onoff.jpg

They always leave a con/chemtrail on this flight path, this one switches off/on/off

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/308/notrail.jpg


not sure what this is? :eek:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6646/ufo2.jpg

I wouldn't say it switches on and off.

I'd say that the atomosphere it's flying through is different.

And that depends on the TV towers, mobile phone towers, weather balls, etc on the ground.

And whether or not some wonderful person has gifted them with orgonite!

The second photo is a classic orb shot!

Good shooting! :)

[beldazar]

I dont know Anthony...Ive seen planes stop spraying, do a 'u' turn and start spraying again....

[anthony65]

I dont know Anthony...Ive seen planes stop spraying, do a 'u' turn and start spraying again....

Aaah...

But that's different! :)

This morning was a great example of stuttering trails, and there were more stutters than trails!

A plane flies miles and miles...

Noffin'!

Then a squirt of a trail for a few hundred metres...

This squirt sticks and spreads!

Then noffin' again!

Lovely! :)

If you want blue skies then you have to gift the masts and towers with orgonite!

And there's lots of towers begging to be gifted... :(

Many hands...

Light work!

Blue skies!

Fluffy clouds!

:)

[flyermay]

It was nice while it lasted, but having trail free skies over London is over. Today morning, the first thing I saw through the window was a beautiful blue sky completely spoiled by a dozen chemtrails.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2901

Unfortunately, this time they targeted the area just above me, and I could see chemtrails in all directions.

It is still strange that the chemtrails only appear on certain days and times, as I never see single trails. What I mean is that: or we have the sky completely free of trails, or we have the sky full of them; there is no midterm.

I wonder if any of you has any logical explanation to justify this phenomenon as a natural event. Could it be because on certain times the weather is more appropriate for their formation? Or that flight routes are changed from day to day? Or maybe it is that the assigned altitude of air traffic is the one that changes?

Do you have any other suggestions that could explain these chemtrails as being normal trails that only form on certain occasions?

[anthony65]

It was nice while it lasted, but having trail free skies over London is over. Today morning, the first thing I saw through the window was a beautiful blue sky completely spoiled by a dozen chemtrails.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2901

Unfortunately, this time they targeted the area just above me, and I could see chemtrails in all directions.

It is still strange that the chemtrails only appear on certain days and times, as I never see single trails. What I mean is that: or we have the sky completely free of trails, or we have the sky full of them; there is no midterm.

I wonder if any of you has any logical explanation to justify this phenomenon as a natural event. Could it be because on certain times the weather is more appropriate for their formation? Or that flight routes are changed from day to day? Or maybe it is that the assigned altitude of air traffic is the one that changes?

Do you have any other suggestions that could explain these chemtrails as being normal trails that only form on certain occasions?

Do you ever see some parts of the sky full of trails that stick and other parts where the trails don't stick?

The chemtrails need to the sky to be fucked up by the HAARP and HAARP like Antennas on the ground.

Chemtrails and HAARP go together like piss and shit... :(

[anthony65]

Do you ever see some parts of the sky full of trails that stick and other parts where the trails don't stick?

The chemtrails need to the sky to be fucked up by the HAARP and HAARP like Antennas on the ground.

Chemtrails and HAARP go together like piss and shit... :(

And before anyone ask what kind of antennas I mean, take a look at this...

http://www.orgonised-germany.de/italien.html

These photos were taken in North Italy, but they could by anywhere.

We are surrounded by this shit wherever we go.

And orgonite is the cure... :)

[beldazar]

I get what you are saying Anthony and thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for your gifting :)

I will get on the case again when I have more 'time'

[realfake]

Here's the official (USAF) explanation for what you are witnessing http://www.af.mil/shared/media/docum...051013-001.pdf Your search for answers will either begin in earnest, or end after reading this.

[anthony65]

I get what you are saying Anthony and thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for your gifting :)

I will get on the case again when I have more 'time'

You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome!

Gifting orgonite is such a wonderful thing!

I've had some incredible experiences for which I am truly thankful!

It's basically about healing the environment.

A bit of dosh, a bit of shoe leather and lots of sweat! :D

But the satisfaction of a job well done.

There are some wonderfully generous people out there! :)

Little by little
and stone by stone
The rich man's mountain
Comes tumblin' down!

[realfake]

Gifting orgonite is such a wonderful thing!

I've had some incredible experiences for which I am truly thankful!

It's basically about healing the environment.

A bit of dosh, a bit of shoe leather and lots of sweat! :D

But the satisfaction of a job well done.Do you have a guide for beginners at hand?

Thanks in advance ;)

[howie]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2466/chem30309b.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/694/chem30309e.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8630/chem30309d.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1897/chem30309c.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9900/chem30309a.jpg

[forza nascosta]

Your camera has a good zoom Howie. What make of camera is it?

[howie]

Kodak 10mp 15x zoom it needs a tripod to get clearer shots, 18 out of 20 photos were blurred today. I'll send the evidence to the airlines if I can identify which flights are spraying, the white plane with blue tail looks like KLM airlines.

[flyermay]

And before anyone ask what kind of antennas I mean, take a look at this...

http://www.orgonised-germany.de/italien.html


I am completely shocked with the content of that website!!!

I saw that they have various projects to create rain in Spain; where I happen to have some family. This winter everyone was terrorised about a wave of immense flooding like they never saw before. Some of them were so bad that you could see people literally swimming through the streets of some major cities. Thousands of people lost their lives, their homes and all their possessions. However, no one was ever told that the rain was created by this German company and their diabolical antennas.

This is huge!!! It is incredible that these projects are so easily found on the net and openly available to everyone, though there wasn't a single mention of them on any Spanish TV channel; a complete media blackout!!!

[anthony65]

I am completely shocked with the content of that website!!!

I saw that they have various projects to create rain in Spain; where I happen to have some family. This winter everyone was terrorised about a wave of immense flooding like they never saw before. Some of them were so bad that you could see people literally swimming through the streets of some major cities. Thousands of people lost their lives, their homes and all their possessions. However, no one was ever told that the rain was created by this German company and their diabolical antennas.

This is huge!!! It is incredible that these projects are so easily found on the net and openly available to everyone, though there wasn't a single mention of them on any Spanish TV channel; a complete media blackout!!!

:confused:

The antennas are not from this German company.

These photos were taken by people who were "gifting" these masts and towers with orgonite, which is simply a mix of polyester resin and metal shavings with one or more crystals in them.

**** I just at looked at your previous posts...

Are you serious?

Even semi-serious?

:confused:

[beldazar]

Do you have a guide for beginners at hand?

Thanks in advance ;)

You could even make a chembuster realfake

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4058&highlight=chembuster

I will put up some links for orgonite when I get the chance if Anthony doesnt do it for you first :)

[anthony65]

Do you have a guide for beginners at hand?

Thanks in advance ;)


Whale.to is an excellent source of information!

http://www.whale.to/b/orgonite.html

The site tells you what orgonite is, how to make your own and provides international links where you can buy some!

[flyermay]

The antennas are not from this German company.

These photos were taken by people who were "gifting" these masts and towers with orgonite, which is simply a mix of polyester resin and metal shavings with one or more crystals in them.

Thanks for the info!!!

I just at looked at your previous posts...

Are you serious?

Even semi-serious?

:confused: Serious about what??? I said so many things along the past 2 weeks that I have no clue about what you are refering to.

Am I serious about the pictures and the fact that chemtrails only appear every few days -all at the same time-?.... YES!!!

Am I serious about thinking that my posts had any effect on the frequency of the chemtrails?.... OF COURSE NOT!!!

Am I serious about ignoring the relation between these antenas and the chemtrails?.... OBVIOUSLY I DID!!!

:rolleyes: Anything else...

Hope this answers your question.

[anthony65]

Thanks for the info!!!



:confused: Serious about what??? I said so many things along the past 2 weeks that I have no clue about what you are refering to.

Am I serious about the pictures and the fact that chemtrails only appear every few days -all at the same time-?.... YES!!!

Am I serious about thinking that my posts had any effect on the frequency of the chemtrails?.... OF COURSE NOT!!!

Am I serious about ignoring the relation between these antenas and the chemtrails?.... YES!!!

:rolleyes: Anything else...

Hope this answers your question.

No worries! :)

I was confused by your reference to the German company, but of course you couldn't read the German so that was fair enough.

I was more confused by your references to the floods in Spain. There was some flash flooding as far as I remember, but you wrote that thousands of people lost their lives.... :confused:

There is a media blackout in Spain and all other countries regarding weather manipulation. Spain has probably been signalled out for desertification to push forward the global warming argument, but there was lots of orgonite gifting last year that helped to produce more rain.

The flash floods were probably due to HAARP.

We had something similar a couple of years ago in Germany where extremely localized flooding caused severy damage. Close to this area were lots of masts and towers, which have now been gifted with orgonite. Since then there have been no more extreme weather situations in the region.

[flyermay]

No worries! :)

I was confused by your reference to the German company, but of course you couldn't read the German so that was fair enough.

I was more confused by your references to the floods in Spain. There was some flash flooding as far as I remember, but you wrote that thousands of people lost their lives.... :confused:

There is a media blackout in Spain and all other countries regarding weather manipulation. Spain has probably been signalled out for desertification to push forward the global warming argument, but there was lots of orgonite gifting last year that helped to produce more rain.

The flash floods were probably due to HAARP.

We had something similar a couple of years ago in Germany where extremely localized flooding caused severy damage. Close to this area were lots of masts and towers, which have now been gifted with orgonite. Since then there have been no more extreme weather situations in the region.

Thanks again. You're right, I have to confess that my level of German is zero (though I do speak 5 languages ;)). The reason I jumped to that conclusion was just because I understood something about various projects in Spain, and the phrase "Bring Rain back to Spain" in the first project.

I often watch the international channel of the Spanish TV. And as far as I can remeber the floods where a bit more than just some flash floodings. If I don't remember wrong, at a time there were like 2 considerable floodings per week somewhere in Spain.

About the consequences, I agree that my statement can be confusing. What I meant with: "Thousands of people lost their lives, their homes and all their possessions", is that thousands of people lost their lives, or their homes, or their possessions; and not that thousands lost their lives.

I've been hearing about the desertification of Spain for many years, reason why it is more than possible that the Spanish governement would have used this technology if available (though it seems it got out of hand).

I'm now in the UK, and there also seems to be more floodings than usual last year. Though the media also avoids talking about any relation between floodings and weather modification projects. I guess it is a global media blockout.

But the main problem with the media blockout in Spain is the language barrier. Not much people speaks English there, and therefore, even if this information is available on the net, very few people would be able to read it.

[anthony65]

Thanks again. You're right, I have to confess that my level of German is zero (though I do speak 5 languages ;)). The reason I jumped to that conclusion was just because I understood something about various projects in Spain, and the phrase "Bring Rain back to Spain" in the first project.

I often watch the international channel of the Spanish TV. And as far as I can remeber the floods where a bit more than just some flash floodings. If I don't remember wrong, at a time there were like 2 considerable floodings per week somewhere in Spain.

About the consequences, I agree that my statement can be confusing. What I meant with: "Thousands of people lost their lives, their homes and all their possessions", is that thousands of people lost their lives, or their homes, or their possessions; and not that thousands lost their lives.

I've been hearing about the desertification of Spain for many years, reason why it is more than possible that the Spanish governement would have used this technology if available (though it seems it got out of hand).

I'm now in the UK, and there also seems to be more floodings than usual last year. Though the media also avoids talking about any relation between floodings and weather modification projects. I guess it is a global media blockout.

But the main problem with the media blockout in Spain is the language barrier. Not much people speaks English there, and therefore, even if this information is available on the net, very few people would be able to read it.

So Spanish is one of your languages?

Weather manipulation could theoretically be used for good, but in the world as we know it this is of course unlikely.

It is more often used to create weather extremes, weather disasters.

We are supposed to be in fear of mother nature and her terrible wrath because we are such bad people...

No.

There are some bad people, but they are an evil satanically inspired minority.

Most people are just ignorant.

As for mother nature?

Treat her well and she shows her beauty with the occasional display of awsome power.

[flyermay]

Weather manipulation could theoretically be used for good, but in the world as we know it this is of course unlikely.

There is no doubt about it. If it was for a good purpose they wouldn't be hiding it from the public, that's for sure!

In my opinion they are just playing with fire; the problem is that all of us are going to get burned. And what pisses me off more than anything, is the fact that they are doing it with public funds (and even asking for more with the excuse of global warming).

I've been thinking about your previous posts in reference to the chemtrails. So, are you saying that there are no chemtrails as such? I mean, do they spray chemicals through high altitude planes, or the trails are just normal engine exhaust that is visible because of the antenas?

[anthony65]

There is no doubt about it. If it was for a good purpose they wouldn't be hiding it from the public, that's for sure!

In my opinion they are just playing with fire; the problem is that all of us are going to get burned. And what pisses me off more than anything, is the fact that they are doing it with public funds (and even asking for more with the excuse of global warming).

I've been thinking about your previous posts in reference to the chemtrails. So, are you saying that there are no chemtrails as such? I mean, do they spray chemicals through high altitude planes, or the trails are just normal engine exhaust that is visible because of the antenas?

One doesn't rule out the other.

In fact, one compliments the other.

After a couple of years of observing the skies I've seen again and again that the HAARP antenna networks can generate horrible looking fake clouds.

If the sky, or bits of the sky, fill with fake clouds, the trails are more likely to stick. Watch the skies and you'll see this! Sticks, doesn't stick, sticks, doesn't stick. They're not switching on and off. They're flying through different types of atmosphere, because....

Where towers / masts have been gifted with orgonite, there is a much greater chance that the trails won't stick.

There are different categories of planes...

Commercial planes:

Military planes:

Black ops planes:

The black ops planes could have anything fitted to them to produce stickier trails and use any kind of fuel + additives. They can also fly weird and wacky flight paths. Look up and you'll see them.

The military planes may have special chemtrail fuel batches, but there really aren't that many military planes about.

Commercial planes? The fuel is already full of untold shit, but it's not hard to imagine that extra chemtrail friendly additives find their way into the fuel.

How many companies build aircraft?

Not many.

Not so difficult to come to an arrangement where something is added to the fuel tanks for example. This is one of the theories.

To summarize...

Antennas and chemtrails go together like shit and piss as I wrote yesterday.

Orgonite is the answer to both! :)

[cleopatraxxx]

I am completely shocked with the content of that website!!!

I saw that they have various projects to create rain in Spain; where I happen to have some family. This winter everyone was terrorised about a wave of immense flooding like they never saw before. Some of them were so bad that you could see people literally swimming through the streets of some major cities. Thousands of people lost their lives, their homes and all their possessions. However, no one was ever told that the rain was created by this German company and their diabolical antennas.

This is huge!!! It is incredible that these projects are so easily found on the net and openly available to everyone, though there wasn't a single mention of them on any Spanish TV channel; a complete media blackout!!!

it is in german, i can't read german:eek:

[flyermay]

it is in german, i can't read german:eek:

Same happened to me :), reason why I thought they were advertising the antenas. Hopefuly anthony65 has kindly explained it all afterwards

[flyermay]

After a couple of years of observing the skies I've seen again and again that the HAARP antenna networks can generate horrible looking fake clouds.

I've been watching a couple of videos that explain the HAARP antennas (and much more), including some of those clouds you are talking about (filmed in the South East of Asia just minutes before earquakes).

You can see the videos at:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2824077645382689467&ei=G43SSavLI8P5-Abr5vmeCA&q=%226-13+illuminati+et%22&hl=en
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3510991874976905393&ei=Mo3SSe7BNoWb-AaOh82oCA&q=%226-14+illuminati+et%22&hl=en
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3872291715011293801&ei=To3SSeWvBpaj-Aa136zyBw&q=%226-15+illuminati+et%22&hl=en
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5532826124126710097&ei=_IvSSYHnD5OD-AaYkcTbCA&q=%226-12+illuminati+et%22&hl=en

[anthony65]

it is in german, i can't read german:eek:

Don't worry about the text! :D

The pictures say it all!

These are just examples of how many of these horrible masts and towers we are surrounded by.

The towers and the masts on this site were gifted with orgonite by two very generous Germans!

As you can see on the page, they have also gifted orgonite in Spain, and not to be seen here, in Costa Rica! :)

[flyermay]

Hi, no report today. But can anyone interested, worried, or sick of these chemtrails please log on to the number 10 Downing Street webpage and sign a petition for the government to investigate them:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Chemtrail-Sprays/

I can't believe there are only 64 signatures!!!!

It doesn't really matter if you think the governmnt is the cause of the chemtrails, it will make other people aware and will let the government know that we are sick of them (both).

[banjoreality]

Hi, no report today. But can anyone interested, worried, or sick of these chemtrails please log on to the number 10 Downing Street webpage and sign a petition for the government to investigate them:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Chemtrail-Sprays/

I can't believe there are only 64 signatures!!!!

It doesn't really matter if you think the governmnt is the cause of the chemtrails, it will make other people aware and will let the government know that we are sick of them (both).

Make that 65 signatures..... come on everybody....

[flyermay]

And again! Today 2nd of April, and after almost a week free of any type of trails, and also after a full day without a single trail, 8 planes came out of nowhere in the span of 5 minutes leaving clearly visible trails.

This is the first wave
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2998

But let me repeat this, in case anyone has any doubt: after a clear day, free of any type of trails before and after those 5 minutes, 8 planes appeared over the skies of West London leaving trails.

And this is the second wave
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2999

I have to admit that these trails dissipated soon after and didn't stick for hours (except for the last one -as there is always a last one putting the cherry over the cake). But this is still far from normal and worth reporting, as no other plane left any type of trails before or after those 8 planes.

And this is the cherry over the cake
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3000

What is going on? I can understand the fact that there are planes spraying chemicals over our cities; though please sign this petition (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Chemtrail-Sprays/) to investigate them. But what I don't understand is the fact that they only show over West London, only in the evening just before nightfall, for just 5 to 10 minutes, always in groups, and just once or twice a week. Can anyone help me here please?

[mightiswrong]

Those look like normal contrails. The ones you can still see at night time hours after the plane has gone are the ones that bother me.

[rhiannon]

six pointed star and the sun....

[rhiannon]

wheras this one is just a mess......

[rhiannon]

Bit of pyramid symbolism?

[beldazar]

Those look like normal contrails. The ones you can still see at night time hours after the plane has gone are the ones that bother me.

No they arent, a normal contrail disperses as the plane is flying along and doesnt get any longer. You dont see them much.....

[rhiannon]

I'm sick of it. F*cking f*cking sick of it. F*cking chemtrails. Every day since the beginning of the year they've been out here mornign till nite.. I never feel well or healthy. Every day there's unmarked helicopters making a noise and all these trailing planes flyin everywhere.

I've started a photo album for my computer and will be recording daily everywherre I go.

I am off to Somerset for the weekend and will be visiting the isle of Avalon- which they are heavily targeting at the mo to destroy the earth energy there. I will hav my camera

If anyone knows of any good campaigning sites/people I can share these please let me know

[flyermay]

Those look like normal contrails. The ones you can still see at night time hours after the plane has gone are the ones that bother me.

They also look normal trails to me, except for the last one.

But isn't it strange that no other planes left a trail (con or chem) for the whole week; including that same day after and before those 5 minutes?

I mean, if they are "normal" passenger planes simply flying commercial routes, why don't they also fly all along the week?

Why does every single plane that leaves a trail (normal or not) travel over this area together every week in the span of 5 minutes? That’s what I don't understand.

And the fact that this week only the last one of the 8 left a chemtrails is even odder, as all of them used to leave chemtrails in previous weeks (as you can see in my previous pictures).

[flyermay]

I'm sick of it. F*cking f*cking sick of it. F*cking chemtrails. Every day since the beginning of the year they've been out here mornign till nite.. I never feel well or healthy. Every day there's unmarked helicopters making a noise and all these trailing planes flyin everywhere.

I've started a photo album for my computer and will be recording daily everywherre I go.

Wow, then I can consider myself lucky, here in London you can only get to see chemtrails once or twice a week. I guess that the royalty around the area don’t like them much, and they probably wait until they are out of the city. It’s also odd that the chemtrails tend to focus over west London (I saw them only once above central London).

I also started a photo album and reporting each sight on this forum since 2 or 3 weeks ago.

You could start by signing the petition on the number10 website (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Chemtrail-Sprays/); if you haven't done so.

[banjoreality]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36973726@N05/page2/

I hate them..... but..... i know it's going to sound crazy, to quote David Icke: the reality outside us is just the projection from within(or something like it), I have been saying soothing mantras to get rid of them and for the last 4 days now; no chemtrails, no fucking weather manipulation just lovely skies.
Can we all try this and report back? only soothing mantras, make them disappear in a wink of love, they only exist inside us, we are SO much more powerfull than the puny dark little psychopaths running this agenda.
Break the cage, realize who you are and how vast your powers to change this perceived reality are. Just blink and they will disappear, for real.

LOVE ALL.....

[banjoreality]

Sorry forget the mind over matter stuff for now......they are back in barcelona today.......:(

[flyermay]

Sorry forget the mind over matter stuff for now......they are back in barcelona today.......:(

I’m curious, how is the public in Spain taking this kind of stuff? I guess that they are more sceptical of the government and the media; due to all the lies and manipulation during the previous regime.

[banjoreality]

there is no "previous regime" Juan Carlos was brought up By Franco there is no real difference, one of them was a fascist (putting spaniards first) the other, an internationalist, but they are both totalitarian....
People here are amongst the fattest most fleeced sheep on the planet, helas.

[flyermay]

there is no "previous regime" Juan Carlos was brought up By Franco there is no real difference, one of them was a fascist (putting spaniards first) the other, an internationalist, but they are both totalitarian....
People here are amongst the fattest most fleeced sheep on the planet, helas.

I guess you're right when the whole country allows these Basque kids to be jailed for protesting. They didn't even caught them protesting; instead they were arrested time after at home (no less that under "terrorism" charges).

[flyermay]

About the chemtrails over West London, I saw them again today, all at the same time of the day in the span of a couple of minutes. As usual, around a dozen of planes from every direction, only that this time we had a combination of sticky and non-stick (I mean, half of the trails faded quite quickly and the other half never faded -actually expanded-).

[flyermay]

Well... it seems they have changed their tactics. The chemtrails are more regular (practically every day now), though the intensity has considerably diminished.

Today 4 planes crossed the sky at exactly the same time; all of them but one left chemtrails (the other one only a normal trail). As usual, no other planes left any type of trails before or after the sighting.

Either way, do yourself a favour, sign the petition (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Chemtrail-Sprays/) for an official investigation and explanation on the Chemtrail Spraying at Number10.gov.uk.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=309&pictureid=3029

[flyermay]

This is getting out of hand; they've done it twice today!!!

I guess that there is no need to mention that they still follow the same procedure as for the past 2 weeks: sunddenly out of nowhere, dozens of planes cross the sky leaving chemtrails (and again, not a single trail before or after). The only difference with the night show is that it had 4 final cherries today.

Look what a mess!!! :mad:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3035

I can't believe they spoiled such a beautiful clear sky. And afterwards doing that, 4 planes followed the crowd, of which two where closely following each other (I tried to capture them but the light wasn't enough for my mini-picture-phone). God, I need to get one of those huge zooms. I bet you that most of them are military.

[serenevasaline]

I recently visited the South Wales vallys and was shocked to see the amount of trails there were in the skies there. Especially around Abergaveney and Breacon. Does anyone live in that area? Post some of your pics. I was truly shocked at them. I seen 3 being made in a row. Big long ugly bastards. They lingered for hours. Although they did seem to drift off after a while, but stayed in sequence. Even my bloke couldn't deny it looked a bit wrong.

[serenevasaline]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/415/dsc00631x.jpg

This is Liverpool at the end of last year. Mess!

[spock]

was loads of trails in Liverpool again today.
they look to be still going on into the darkness.

why heavy trails on a Sunday?

[beldazar]

was loads of trails in Liverpool again today.
they look to be still going on into the darkness.

why heavy trails on a Sunday?

Yes, they normally have sundays off......

[serenevasaline]

was loads of trails in Liverpool again today.
they look to be still going on into the darkness.

why heavy trails on a Sunday?

It was pretty cloudy by the time i pulled my lazy arse outta bed so I missed the action there I'm afraid.

Yes, they normally have sundays off......

lol Beldazar :D. You know what he means. There should be less flights on a sunday, therefore there should be less chem trails.:D

[beldazar]

It was pretty cloudy by the time i pulled my lazy arse outta bed so I missed the action there I'm afraid.



lol Beldazar :D. You know what he means. There should be less flights on a sunday, therefore there should be less chem trails.:D

:o lol, he should have put Mr Sarkey Face up then :D

I have noticed that the planes dont seem to be going over on a sunday much. I presumed it was their day off :)

[flyermay]

I have noticed that the planes dont seem to be going over on a sunday much. I presumed it was their day off :)

I'm sorry to spoil it, but they are not off, they are sent to London (twice today).

[beldazar]

I'm sorry to spoil it, but they are not off, they are sent to London (twice today).

You havent spoiled it, I said much, they were doing the rounds today...

[spock]

these from paddy's day
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__0008.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__00019.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__0001.jpg


i have some video of the planes making the noughts and crosses boxes.

i had a lie in today too. http://foolstown.com/sm/zzz.gif
but the lad who took the vid these pics were off said the sky was full this morning. :D

[serenevasaline]

wow spock., thats a crazy pic. Is that liverpool too?

lolz belthazar, I wish it was their day off. I Might be able to get through a day without sneezing :D. hehe. Anyone else noticed how many people sniffle outside these days. Everyone is sniffling. I don;t know whether I just never noticed before. :confused:

[beldazar]

Somebody wanna talk to this guy?

My tolerance has just plunged to well below zero. I would be no help whatsoever! :(

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60530

[mr_pixie]

these from paddy's day
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__0008.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__00019.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__0001.jpg


i have some video of the planes making the noughts and crosses boxes.

i had a lie in today too. http://foolstown.com/sm/zzz.gif
but the lad who took the vid these pics were off said the sky was full this morning. :D

intresting photos

[realfake]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/chems_0001_1__0001.jpg Damn, airspace must really be at a premium..

http://usera.ImageCave.com/realfake/SkyLines.jpg

[flyermay]

And with today, makes it 3 days in a row; including the double session from yesterday, when we had morning and evening show.

As always, following the same pattern as for the past 3 weeks: the show is always around this time and all the planes cross the sky in the span of 5 minutes (no other trails during the whole day). How can anyone say there is nothing strange with the chemtrails.

I guess that the royals around London must be out enjoying the good weather, because we passed from one or two passes per week to three days in a row, plus Sunday's double session.

You might not see them well in this pic, as the sky is quite cloudy today and the camare is really bad, but I assure you that there are no less than 8 chemtrails (all made by different planes crossing the sky in the span of 5 minutes).

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3059

[realfake]

And with today, makes it 3 days in a row; including the double session from yesterday, when we had morning and evening show.

As always, following the same pattern as for the past 3 weeks: the show is always around this time and all the planes cross the sky in the span of 5 minutes (no other trails during the whole day). How can anyone say there is nothing strange with the chemtrails.

I guess that the royals around London must be out enjoying the good weather, because we passed from one or two passes per week to three days in a row, plus Sunday's double session.

You might not see them well in this pic, as the sky is quite cloudy today and the camare is really bad, but I assure you that there are no less than 8 chemtrails (all made by different planes crossing the sky in the span of 5 minutes).

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3059 Was the morning show to the east, or west?

[flyermay]

Was the morning show to the east, or west?

I'm only in charge of the westbound watchtower ;) (I can only see west from my windows). It's usualy always west, except for one day when they targeted the southwest. Well, today it was just above me (the west end).

[realfake]

I'm only in charge of the westbound watchtower ;) (I can only see west from my windows). It's usualy always west, except for one day when they targeted the southwest. Well, today it was just above me (the west end).I'm lucky, my window faces south, so i scan East to West without a problem :D

The persistent trails here (North East England) tend to show up in the East during the morning, and to the West during the evening. They often track the Sun's position in the sky.

Take a look at this video (credit to rjl9332) Pay paticular attention to the time-lapse footage. It pretty much corresponds with what I witness on a daily basis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

My previous job required me to be up at first light and clear skies were just that. No trails first thing. This always suggested to me that these 'operations' ceased after nightfall. However, a number of posters have informed me that this isn't the case.

[flyermay]

I'm lucky, my window faces south, so i scan East to West without a problem :D

The persistent trails here (North East England) tend to show up in the East during the morning, and to the West during the evening. They often track the Sun's position in the sky.

Take a look at this video (credit to rjl9332) Pay paticular attention to the time-lapse footage. It pretty much corresponds with what I witness on a daily basis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U

My previous job required me to be up at first light and clear skies were just that. No trails first thing. This always suggested to me that these 'operations' ceased after nightfall. However, a number of posters have informed me that this isn't the case.

Wow, now I feel lucky to be in West London, as I sayd, I only get to see chemtrails once or twice a week; except for this weekend. I had no idea that they were targeting East London all day long. Here, on top of being ever few days, it just happens for 10 minutes maximum (though the chemtrails are visible for hours).

I guess that what I witness is what you see as while following the sun at the end of the day.

One question: do you have a camara with zoom to see if they are civilian or military planes?

[realfake]

Wow, now I feel lucky to be in West London, as I sayd, I only get to see chemtrails once or twice a week; except for this weekend. I had no idea that they were targeting East London all day long. Here, on top of being ever few days, it just happens for 10 minutes maximum (though the chemtrails are visible for hours).

I guess that what I witness is what you see as while following the sun at the end of the day.

One question: do you have a camara with zoom to see if they are civilian or military planes? That's something you'll have to observe for yourself. I see it (here) but that is not to say the same thing happens there.

I only have access to digital camera's at the moment. To gain a positively identifiable image of an aircraft at those altitudes would require a camera with optical zoom. I really need to get myself one of those :)

As for the possibility of them all being 'commercial' flights.. Do they fly round in circles?
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9759/01ei2.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01ei2.jpg) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4131/02hl4.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02hl4.jpg) http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1143/05is9.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05is9.jpg)
After clicking on the thumbnails, click on the images again to view them in full resolution.

I have watched these planes literally make multiple, elliptical orbits around the Sun's position in the sky.. Something tells me the airline passengers would notice? ;)

[flyermay]

I only have access to digital camera's at the moment. To gain a positively identifiable image of an aircraft at those altitudes would require a camera with optical zoom. I really need to get myself one of those :)

I'm looking for one of those too on ebay. At the moment I'm using my phone (which obviously is not good enough).

[realfake]

I'm looking for one of those too on ebay. At the moment I'm using my phone (which obviously is not good enough). Same here. I do have a 9 megapixel digital cam, but the zoom just ain't up to the job. I might invest in a good pair of binoculars also.

[humito]

i am thinking that maybe they are trying to change the upper atmosphere somehow so as to try and stop beneficial cosmic rays from reaching us helping us ascend/evolve ?.........some of the pics i have seen recently of slyph like clouds/beings around the trails leads me to think that spirit is trying to disperse them to help the planet and us as we head towards galactic alignment.........just a thought:)

[banjoreality]

a friend of mine came back from Paris (by plane), on the way there he saw a huge reflective screen, covering the entire city, that looks like ice, he took some pictures, you can see the reflection of the sun in it, it made me feel sick.

[lilloz]

a friend of mine came back from Paris (by plane), on the way there he saw a huge reflective screen, covering the entire city, that looks like ice, he took some pictures, you can see the reflection of the sun in it, it made me feel sick.

It would be cool to see those, how strange is that!!:eek:
Does anyone else’s camera seem to lose all battery life when they take pics of trails, maybe just coincidence but it happens to me every time

[anthony65]

About the chemtrails over West London, I saw them again today, all at the same time of the day in the span of a couple of minutes. As usual, around a dozen of planes from every direction, only that this time we had a combination of sticky and non-stick (I mean, half of the trails faded quite quickly and the other half never faded -actually expanded-).

This link might help to explain why many trails in West London don't stick...

Scroll down to the bottom to see the maps of London!

A few great people, lots of orgonite and lots of legwork... :D

http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=636

[truthseeker1980]

I am in North West London and there is a massive curved chemtrail, alomst 180degrees, getting thicker and thicker right now taken pic so will put on here 2mora hopefully.

[flyermay]

I am in North West London and there is a massive curved chemtrail, alomst 180degrees, getting thicker and thicker right now taken pic so will put on here 2mora hopefully.

I can also see it. The are starting to fill the whole west.

[truthseeker1980]

yep, a plane has just gone over the same path really, really, relly fast leaving another one, just took a pic too.

The curved one has thinned out and is covering a massive area of sky now. If i hadn't seen that it was chemtrail first i would have thought it was just whispy cloud looking up there now.

[flyermay]

yep, a plane has just gone over the same path really, really, relly fast leaving another one, just took a pic too.

The curved one has thinned out and is covering a massive area of sky now. If i hadn't seen that it was chemtrail first i would have thought it was just whispy cloud looking up there now.

I just saw that plane too, but the first one is just... MASSIVE!!!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3156

They are also filling the whole eare southwest of that chemtrail (as you can probably see in the bottom-left corner of the pic), but I can't get a good picture of all of the because of the sun.

[flyermay]

This link might help to explain why many trails in West London don't stick...

Scroll down to the bottom to see the maps of London!

A few great people, lots of orgonite and lots of legwork... :D

http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=636

Thanks for the map of London Anthony. I agree completely, for what I can see from my window, the chemtrails fit perfectly the areas that have no dots.

[flyermay]

Remember that I told you about the light mist that forms just after the chemtrails? Well, so far I wasn't able to get a clear picture of it, as they spray mainly just before nightfall. Luckily, today, there is enough light to see it in all its magnitude (covering the whole southwest).

Please notice, and differenciate, at the bottom of the picuture, the real clouds from the mist that form from the chemtrails. As you can see the mist is slightly horizontally layered, while the real coulds are just... simple clouds (cumulus I think). I assure you that just before the spraying, that area was as blue as at the top of the picture (and actually you can see where the mist ends and where the blue sky begins).

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3157

[fekdemasons]

Gents ,

I've just took 6/7 photos on my Digital 5.0 MP , unbelievable , I'm in the heathrow area , as you can imagine we get these a lot.

I also have one shot with what could be a UFO , (most likely a bird in flight).

I was taking a shot of a plane with no contrail or chemtrail at lowish altitude for comparison and noticed the object after looking through the snaps.

Soon as I find my leads I'll upload them .

Please bear with me..

[echoes_of_a_dream]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzMwFR7RMPg

I just saw a "black chemtrail" for the first time today, there has been lots of heavy spraying but I have never seen anything like this before. It is like a dark trail/tunnel infront of the plane but I couldn't see any aircraft that were leaving the trail. Maybe the plane is projecting something infront to destabilise the atmosphere (like an electromagnetic beam or invisible laser) and make the passing trails spread further? I dunno :confused:

EDIT: Found this:

Originally, I though the chemtrail spray planes themselves were projecting the 'black beams' as a sort of laser glide path for laying down the chemtrails, but both ZS Livingstone and David feel that the beams are being projected from the ground. And maybe using the work "beam" is not the best way to describe them since we think of a "beam" as a beam of light, but these black lines seem to represent an ionization path in the sky that seem to overlay the chemtrail or run very closely parallel to it.

Source: Educate-Yourself (http://educate-yourself.org/ct/blackbeamsover%20LA25dec06.shtml)

[flyermay]

Today it simply got out of hand: they've been at it for more than 2 hours non-stop; and what's worst, it is the 5th day in a row. It never happend before, neither spraying more than 1 day in a row, nor spraying for more than 10 minutes at a time. You can see the results below.

Please bear in mind which ones are the clouds and which one is the mist from the chemtrails. They have filled up the whole West and Southwest areas of London (the 1st picture faces West, but as you can see towards the north, the sky is clearer -right of the picture-, the southwest, 2nd picture, is completely full).

Still anyone there who thinks chemtrails are "engine exhaust", or maybe it looks like a regular mist to you?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3159http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3160

[serenevasaline]

I just saw a "black chemtrail" for the first time today,...........]

That is very very freaky indeed. What on earth is it. So strange:confused:

[disorder2k8]

hm whats the yellow dot in the pics a few pages back (cant link to them for some reason) is that a sundog? or something else :confused:

[lazytechnician]

Yes absolutely loads in the East-Surrey area today.

[anthony65]

Thanks for the map of London Anthony. I agree completely, for what I can see from my window, the chemtrails fit perfectly the areas that have no dots.

Cheers for the confirmation!

Similar picture here this morning!

The areas where most of the towers have been gifted with orgonite are either still blue or have short "stuttering" trails that start and stop (stick and spread).

In the distance, however, I can see line after line after line of chemtrails sprayed early this morning. Hard to tell how far away they are, but clearly these areas have towers that need gifting!

[spock]

wow spock., thats a crazy pic. Is that liverpool too?



yes...........well...... Huyton?
my mate video'd the plane laying the boxes down for ages.
he did some more from yesterday.

these ones are off my phone. from by the 5ways.
yesterday morning............blue sky. bit too blue as it didn't last! :rolleyes:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/08042009680.jpg
and these from last night.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/08042009704.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/08042009705.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/08042009706.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/08042009708.jpg


I'm still not sure what to make of them, but i'm going to keep taking pics as and when i can be arsed.
seeing the sky full of trails gives me some gumption tho!

i recon it's to do with the weather.
but they have admitted spraying in the 70's with biological shizzle.
that's what you get when no one tells you for sure.......confusion.
if i talk to the "less Awake" i call them plane exhausts. in the hope they'll gain some interest.
most say "they always leave trails, ever since i was a kid" "your mad/paranoid" etc
but they have no answer when i ask " did they hang round for hours and merge into one big cirusy soup?

it is hard when they are there in front of you face and people deny it.
even "Green Idiots" who should be onto it can't see anything wrong with them.



*note to mods. is there anyway we can set up a calander or gallery?*
*this way we could keep an online record of when and where. we could also see if planes are effected by the weather?*
i know this is as good as. but the data gets lost in the chat.

[mr_pixie]

I've seen these trails a night now for a few years was watchin the last night as it happens.

[hagbard_celine]

I've seen these trails a night now for a few years was watchin the last night as it happens.

Yeah I saw some over Oxford last night. This last week or so has been a bad onbe. Really nasty long thick trails, a lot of them:eek::(!

[flyermay]

Yeah I saw some over Oxford last night. This last week or so has been a bad onbe. Really nasty long thick trails, a lot of them:eek::(!

Here in London too. They usually spray once or twice per week, but this week they've been at it for 5 days in a row; I've been sick with fever and throat pains since Monday.

[hagbard_celine]

Here in London too. They usually spray once or twice per week, but this week they've been at it for 5 days in a row; I've been sick with fever and throat pains since Monday.

There's a nasty smell in the air too:eek:, a bit like like Ozone or amonia. This has been the heaviest trailing I've seen for years!:eek:

The normal "tadpole" contrails have continued as usual.

[flyermay]

And here they are, punctual as a Swiss clock!!!

As always, just in the precise moment when the sun moves behind the houses in front of me, and nightfall is near, they appear.

As every other single day for the past 3 weeks (except for Sunday's double pass and yesterday's 2 hour non-stop show), planes appear before nightfall from every direction leaving their filthy shit.

Not much more to tell you that I didn't told you before; just that this is the 6th day on a row.

Here is today's picture. Please note how blue is the sky on the top side of the picture, which is how it should've been everywhere if those bastards made human kind a great favour and killed themselves silently.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3186

[flyermay]

There's a nasty smell in the air too:eek:, a bit like like Ozone or amonia.

I'm so glad to hear you say that, I smell the same thing the first day I photographed the chemtrails, but I simply dismissed it as being the product of my imagination. Do you also get chest pains? I have to close all the windows to avoid them.

[marpat]

Dont you think that the pic you take are dependent of your relative position to the sun and the reason they may be flying in that area at that time is just flight schedule? have you eliminated these factors?

Also, how can you prove that your chest pains or smell in the area come from that source? have you looked to see if there could be any other contamination in the area, perhaps ground based, which is causing problems?

[flyermay]

Dont you think that the pic you take are dependent of your relative position to the sun and the reason they may be flying in that area at that time is just flight schedule? have you eliminated these factors?

Also, how can you prove that your chest pains or smell in the area come from that source? have you looked to see if there could be any other contamination in the area, perhaps ground based, which is causing problems?

You know it would be really easy for me to fully explain all those question; like I did with your previous ones. But as I told you yesterday, I honestly think that you are simply looking for a bit of attention, and have no real interest in understanding anything. On my part: I don't even have any interest in entertaining you, in knowing your opinion, or in openning your eyes.

[marpat]

You know it would be really easy for me to fully explain all those question; like I did with your previous ones. But as I told you yesterday, I honestly think that you are simply looking for a bit of attention, and have no real interest in understanding anything. On my part: I don't even have any interest in entertaining you, in knowing your opinion, or in openning your eyes.

And I think that is just an evasion. I could esily get attention in here by blindly accepting the status quo, taking pics of contrails and claiming my breathing has been affected. I would then be accepted as a long suffering, awakened person who would be fully accepted into the believers back room. I have seen exactly how the forum works and interacts.

Please answer my questions fully if you think that you have good answers and I will see if your answers invite other questions.

How can you open my eyes when you are not providing the material to do so. You are hoping that I will just role over and accept some really poor explanations and speculations and a few questionable links and vids.

[lookfar]

*note to mods. is there anyway we can set up a calander or gallery?*
*this way we could keep an online record of when and where. we could also see if planes are effected by the weather?*
i know this is as good as. but the data gets lost in the chat.

Hi spock:)

There was talk of this maybe happening on here a while ago, I'll raise it in the mod forum to see if anything like that can be done or not & let you know....

[banjoreality]

Hi spock:)

There was talk of this maybe happening on here a while ago, I'll raise it in the mod forum to see if anything like that can be done or not & let you know....

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DO..... we need to organize as much publication as possible. People need to see.

love all

[naturalcanvas]

yup...oxford been sprayed with cack at night....its fucking sickening!!! covers that beautiful full moon....

[lookfar]

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DO..... we need to organize as much publication as possible. People need to see.

love all

Yeah I agree:) I've asked Sean and will let you know what he says...

[banjoreality]

Yeah I agree:) I've asked Sean and will let you know what he says...
THanks!

Marpat: the harder you guys push, the more credible our claims.
So keep pushing, for every one of your lame debates, a thousand truths will come to light.

love all

[forza nascosta]

Photo from yesterday
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/09thApril2009_files/Media/DSCF1373/DSCF1373.jpg

More photo's from the 9th April
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/09thApril2009.html

[forza nascosta]

*note to mods. is there anyway we can set up a calander or gallery?*
*this way we could keep an online record of when and where. we could also see if planes are effected by the weather?*
i know this is as good as. but the data gets lost in the chat.

Hi,

I have seen that this request has been passed to the mods and don't wish to interfere with that at all. I think it would be great to be able to record it here.

I do the lines in our sky website. I just use the space to upload photo's bit like a diary I suppose. I am able to add a message board, it would be purely for people to add photo's or log the trailing on a given day.

This is the one I did yesterday, as an example of what I mean
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/lookup/forum

What do you think?

[banjoreality]

hi,

i have seen that this request has been passed to the mods and don't wish to interfere with that at all. I think it would be great to be able to record it here.

I do the lines in our sky website. I just use the space to upload photo's bit like a diary i suppose. I am able to add a message board, it would be purely for people to add photo's or log the trailing on a given day.

This is the one i did yesterday, as an example of what i mean
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/lookup/forum

what do you think?

what do we think????? We think the planet is in dyer need of fully active and positive beings such as your kind self!!!!!!!! Hhhhooouuurrraaa!!!!

[forza nascosta]

what do we think????? We think the planet is in dyer need of fully active and positive beings such as your kind self!!!!!!!! Hhhhooouuurrraaa!!!!

Cheers :)

I have changed the settings so you don't have to wait to be activated.

[cookiejar]

I have proof of chem trail trials:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=919550#post919550

[marpat]

THanks!

Marpat: the harder you guys push, the more credible our claims.
So keep pushing, for every one of your lame debates, a thousand truths will come to light.

love all

But I am questioning not pushing. You seem to be under the delusion that just because I dont buy what you are selling that this somehow makes your point more valid. How does that work? does that mean every time a person asks for some proof that this somehow means this is evidence that such things are happening?

There are things you can do to get physical evidence but I have not seen a signle person in here try anything out. All they do is link the same vids and take little piccies of the sky. And you wonder why you are getting nowhere.

My opinion is that people dont want to make an effort to gain evidence purely because they fear it will turn nothing up, which then discredits everything they have been pushing and believing. far easier to take a few pictures and create a theory around them then attack people who think this is lack of evidence.

[marpat]

I have proof of chem trail trials:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=919550#post919550

Wow you really think that means anything? old news, really old news, and it does not prove a thing.

People in this forum claim LSD helps people to awaken so why would they spray the stuff about?

[cookiejar]

Wow you really think that means anything? old news, really old news, and it does not prove a thing.

People in this forum claim LSD helps people to awaken so why would they spray the stuff about?

Read it again, watch the videos :rolleyes:
The wrong amount of LSD: tut tut. my first negative post from someone, it had to happen sometime:o

[flyermay]

my first negative post from someone, it had to happen sometime:o

Don’t worry too much about what this guy says, he is just an agent of disinformation, trying to mess it all up and discourage others to take any action (and he is probably getting paid for it by the same people that spray the chemtrails).

You can explain to him all his *supposed* doubts, and we will just ignore all argumentation and end up generalising about you, the subject, the thread and even the whole forum.

[antinwo]

FFS Marpat's avatar just smells of disinfo agent:D

[jaylox]

Photo from yesterday
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/09thApril2009_files/Media/DSCF1373/DSCF1373.jpg

More photo's from the 9th April
http://www.linesinoursky.co.uk/09thApril2009.html


these are normal chemtrails probably from commercial airlines,about 30,000 feet...nout unusual bud

[beldazar]

these are normal chemtrails probably from commercial airlines,about 30,000 feet...nout unusual bud

What are you on about! :rolleyes:

[marpat]

Don’t worry too much about what this guy says, he is just an agent of disinformation, trying to mess it all up and discourage others to take any action (and he is probably getting paid for it by the same people that spray the chemtrails).

You can explain to him all his *supposed* doubts, and we will just ignore all argumentation and end up generalising about you, the subject, the thread and even the whole forum.

Another false statement. To me this sort of stuff makes me think that you are a bunch of cranks. I wish I was being paid to come in here, would be loaded now. How can I take you seriously when you make statements like that?

It is easier for you people to dismiss me that find credible evidence to convince me. This is the reason for your reaction. I do not buy into theories as easily as you do I guess.

[marpat]

FFS Marpat's avatar just smells of disinfo agent:D

I would say a disinfo agent is somebody who tells you that you are wrong and offers other information designed to lead you into their way of thinking. All I have done is to ask questions and request some credible form of proof. If you think an avatar is an indicator of a persons mindset then you are gravely mistaken.

[antinwo]

We'll get to the bottom of it, don't worry about that mate! Obama has now announced that they may have to spray the atmosphere to prevent Global Warming, which in Orwellian double speak means they're already doing it. By the way Global warming is a scam and therefore this is just another excuse for doing something with our atmosphere.

You're right about one thing, we know they're spraying, even mainstream media has admitted that, but there is no definitive reason to know why, but like I've said we'll get to the bottom of it sooner or later!

[marpat]

We'll get to the bottom of it, don't worry about that mate! Obama has now announced that they may have to spray the atmosphere to prevent Global Warming, which in Orwellian double speak means they're already doing it. By the way Global warming is a scam and therefore this is just another excuse for doing something with our atmosphere.

You're right about one thing, we know they're spraying, even mainstream media has admitted that, but there is no definitive reason to know why, but like I've said we'll get to the bottom of it sooner or later!

Personally I wouldnt be suprised if weather modification did become a regular thing. Man is always trying to impose control over nature so it would seem a logical progression to move in that direction.

Can you explain why they would want to change the atmosphere? they live on the same planet as we do so if they fuck it up for us then they do it to themselves. If for some reason they just wanted to kill a lot of people they would end up reaping a wasteland, what would they gain from that?

Personally I am not convinced about global warming myself. If some scientists doubt it then it is clear that it is not a closed topic.

[steevo]

Personally I wouldnt be suprised if weather modification did become a regular thing. Man is always trying to impose control over nature so it would seem a logical progression to move in that direction.

Can you explain why they would want to change the atmosphere? they live on the same planet as we do so if they fuck it up for us then they do it to themselves. If for some reason they just wanted to kill a lot of people they would end up reaping a wasteland, what would they gain from that?

Personally I am not convinced about global warming myself. If some scientists doubt it then it is clear that it is not a closed topic.

Marpat is moving the goalposts again.

[marpat]

Marpat is moving the goalposts again.

How is that? I have been keeping an open mind on the issue. This is not the same type of open mindedness that you would use, where you believe things with very little conviction. For me it is a case of looking at the issues and only saying something is true when I feel the issues have been answered. You may feel that such things have been answered, I do not.

[banjoreality]

MARPAT
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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US Marines wearing woodland variant of MARPAT.
MARPAT (short for MARine PATtern) is a pixelated camouflage pattern in use by the United States Marine Corps, introduced with the Marine Corps Combat Utility Uniform (MCCUU), which replaced the Camouflage Utility Uniform. The pattern is formed by a number of small rectangular pixels of color. In theory, it is a far more effective camouflage than standard uniform patterns because it mimics the dappled textures and rough boundaries found in natural settings. This is caused by how the human eye interacts with pixelated images. It is also known as the "digital pattern" or "digi-cammies" because of its micropattern (pixels) rather than the old macropattern (big blobs).

[antinwo]

Even if the evidence hit you right in the face I bet you'd still deny it Marps :rolleyes:

[spock]

they started again this avo after a day of blue sky.
clouds looked to be building up anyway..........but still. they are there never the less.

[flyermay]

they started again this avo after a day of blue sky.
clouds looked to be building up anyway..........but still. they are there never the less.

The also took off yesterday, and so far for today, here in London (though its been overcast and I don't have much visibility).

I guess the needed a break after spaying for 5 days in a row this week, plus an unusual 2 hours and a half non-stop on the last day (you could literaly see a huge mist forming from the chemtrials and fall down over the city).

The next time, I'm planning on taking a low speed video, so everyone can see the chemtrails forming the mist over London. The problem is that during the past month, last Thursday was the only time they sprayed for more than 10 minutes at a time.

[marpat]

MARPAT
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US Marines wearing woodland variant of MARPAT.
MARPAT (short for MARine PATtern) is a pixelated camouflage pattern in use by the United States Marine Corps, introduced with the Marine Corps Combat Utility Uniform (MCCUU), which replaced the Camouflage Utility Uniform. The pattern is formed by a number of small rectangular pixels of color. In theory, it is a far more effective camouflage than standard uniform patterns because it mimics the dappled textures and rough boundaries found in natural settings. This is caused by how the human eye interacts with pixelated images. It is also known as the "digital pattern" or "digi-cammies" because of its micropattern (pixels) rather than the old macropattern (big blobs).

Didnt you post this before?

[marpat]

Cracking weather in the north west!!!!!!!!! again.

[antinwo]

Cracking weather in the north west!!!!!!!!! again.

Thought you were from the north east of england???????:D

[howie]

No trails at all today, this is unusual, it is the first time since I started keeping records in 2006 that we have no trails at all.

[flyermay]

No trails at all today, this is unusual, it is the first time since I started keeping records in 2006 that we have no trails at all.

I also didn't saw any trails today, mainly because the sky is overcast. However, I'm under the impression that I've been smelling the chemtrails all day; especially in the morning and now after 6pm.

[steevo]

No chemtrails here today. It's been warm and sunny all day.

[cafetimes1991]

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April_2009/n1046741930_196676_4358.jpg

[steevo]

At this rate, our leaflets will be no longer needed cafetimes1991.
Maybe the leaflets are working :D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=212&pictureid=2469

Download the high quality version here (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3624/chemtrails1.jpg)

and another version here (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2034/chemtrails2.jpg)

[serenevasaline]

Cracking weather in the north west!!!!!!!!! again.

agree'd. frickin gorgeous!!

Didn't see a chem trail all day yesterday, and i aint binm out today so can't comment.

Here are a few from the other day though.

The night time one was sooooo bright but my cam wouldn't pick it up. It was huge, you'll just have to trust me on that one.

You may have to tilt you screens a bit to see

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8889/img2493q.jpg
Shot with at 2009-04-12

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3084/dsc00772r.jpg
Shot with at 2009-04-12

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6420/dsc00770b.jpg
Shot with at 2009-04-12

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4642/dsc00763s.jpg
Shot with at 2009-04-12

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1458/dsc00762d.jpg
Shot with K850i[/URL] at 2009-04-12

[marpat]

Totally bangin weather in the north west. Went travelling over the pennies. Damn those bikers though

[beldazar]

Easter sunday and not a plane in sight, not a single cloud either :)

[banjoreality]

hi every one, I am that close convincing my brother that what he is seeing are chemtrails. The wickipedia definition is so fucked up!!! Look up contrails and tada!!! ten pictures of big fuckin chemtrails !!!! my brother is confused.... he wants an official scientific definition of contrail, I tried to tell him jet fuel cannot stay crystalized for hours and even less turn into clouds but.....
Any links anyone????
thanks

[fuzzylogic]

I tried to tell him jet fuel cannot stay crystalized for hours and even less turn into clouds but.....
What about water?

Can water stay crystalized for hours?

Can water turn into clouds?

Cos that's what we're dealing with. It's jet fuel that goes in the engine but it's the water that comes out of the engine that we're talking about.

And I doubt you're after an official explanation. It's the unofficial ones you'll need to convince your brother.

[banjoreality]

fuzzy logic, evidently the post wasn't addressed to you, you are ignorant, either a shill or another sheep. go play with marpat. go on run along now....

[marpat]

hi every one, I am that close convincing my brother that what he is seeing are chemtrails. The wickipedia definition is so fucked up!!! Look up contrails and tada!!! ten pictures of big fuckin chemtrails !!!! my brother is confused.... he wants an official scientific definition of contrail, I tried to tell him jet fuel cannot stay crystalized for hours and even less turn into clouds but.....
Any links anyone????
thanks

Who said the contrails are made from fuel? you can get contrails from aircraft wings purely due to atmospeheric conditions. Tell me what comes out of an engine exhaust, fuel or fumes?

[marpat]

Today I saw various trails in the sky, some partial persistant contrails only about a mile or so long. They were quite narrow and did not disperse to form clouds at all, just remaining narrow streaks of varying width. Now why would anybody want to make a tiny little chemtrail over the open country?


Banjo, maybe your brother wants some proof because he is not a sucker for believing everything he is told without some sort of evidence. If you get him some proof he might be interested.

[flyermay]

The day cleared up here too, and as well as the rest of you: just a couple of normal contrails.

Either way, I cleaned the windows this morning and have the cameras ready for the 7 o'clock show (though I'm not sure they work on bank holidays :rolleyes:)

[flyermay]

As I said: here they are, punctual as every other day.

I have to admit that this is nothing compared with the last week. Actually, after what I saw last week I even think these are simple contrails.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3292

Either way, isn't it strage that they are always so punctual. I mean, why do I never see any trail (contrail or chemtrail) during the rest of the day, and every day at around 7pm dozens of planes cross the sky in all directions (independently of the fact that they are con/chem trails)?

[flyermay]

I also found these 3 over the house. definetly expanding

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3293

[anthony65]

Who said the contrails are made from fuel? you can get contrails from aircraft wings purely due to atmospeheric conditions. Tell me what comes out of an engine exhaust, fuel or fumes?

Please refer Marpat to the following thread the next time he demands "Facts"

Marpat has had many facts presented to him many times, but he chooses to dismiss them or ridicule them.

The next time Marpat starts his silly games, refer him to this thread and/or report him to the moderators.

The claim that "we" have not presented any facts is a lie.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59981

You still have commented on the artificial snow Marpat...

Humble pie too good for you?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=915114&postcount=161

[beldazar]

Marpats the forum agitator and I for one, am getting a little tired of his antics. I doubt very much that anyone pays him. He probably has some addiction to winding people up. :rolleyes:

Marpat, things are getting serious, each day there is further advance of the NWO. Dont you think its time to call it quits and start offering a little help here? After all, arent you part of this world? Do you wanna live in an orwellian nightmare, do you want your family to?

You have been on here long enough to know the score, whats the point of these silly games?

[wazaaap]

the guy is strange!

he will be one of the first to die!

[beldazar]

the guy is strange!

he will be one of the first to die!

He doesnt deserve to get away with it so easily....:(

[flyermay]

the guy is strange!

he will be one of the first to die!

I don't see him that way, I was just like him one month ago (though I didn't kept on upseting people on any forum).

I think he is just looking for a good reason to believe. His subconscious knows that something is wrong, but he cannot accept it. Reason why he needs so much reasurance.

Don't worry, I got convinced in just one day by what I witnessed, he will do too; now that he know were to look at.

[beldazar]

I don't see him that way, I was just like him one month ago (though I didn't kept on upseting people on any forum).

I think he is just looking for a good reason to believe. His subconscious knows that something is wrong, but he cannot accept it. Reason why he needs so much reasurance.

Don't worry, I got convinced in just one day by what I witnessed, he will do too; now that he know were to look at.

No he wont, he has been on here for a couple of years. He knows the score

[anthony65]

I don't see him that way, I was just like him one month ago (though I didn't kept on upseting people on any forum).

I think he is just looking for a good reason to believe. His subconscious knows that something is wrong, but he cannot accept it. Reason why he needs so much reasurance.

Don't worry, I got convinced in just one day by what I witnessed, he will do too; now that he know were to look at.

Have you seen how marpat debates?

Did you really use the same tactics.

You genuinely believed what you did at the time, but you were open enough to accept and consider new evidence.

Marpat dismisses any evidence provided and keeps on stirring...

This was the reason for the Marpat Chemtrails thread!

Post number 5 has a long list of facts which marpat at the very least has to acknowledge at least as being facts.

[flyermay]

Have you seen how marpat debates?

Did you really use the same tactics.

You genuinely believed what you did at the time, but you were open enough to accept and consider new evidence.

Marpat dismisses any evidence provided and keeps on stirring...

This was the reason for the Marpat Chemtrails thread!

Post number 5 has a long list of facts which marpat at the very least has to acknowledge at least as being facts.

** Wazaap's comment is out of order though. The facts speak for themselves. There's no need to play into Marpat's hands with these kinds of jokes... **

I never debated or posted any messages before I witnessed something odd with the trails (day when I was sure that the ware chemtrails). Actually, my first post on this forum, or in any forum, about this subject was they day I was absolutely convinced.

But I have to admit that before that day, I also thought that there were not enough proofs to convince me that contrails were chemtrails. Now I have not doubt, but just because I saw many things that don't fit with normal trails.

In the same way, Marpat just needs that push. And I don't think anyone would be able to convince him until he witness an "odd" event like I did (just my humble opinion, as it is what happened to me).

I also say that Marpat's subcounscious knows there is something wrong with the trails because otherwise he wouldn't be arround these forum for so long, which means that we is somehow attracted to the subject; though he affirms he doesnt' believe.

[anthony65]

I never debated or posted any messages before I witnessed something odd with the trails (day when I was sure that the ware chemtrails). Actually, my first post on this forum, or in any forum, about this subject was they day I was absolutely convinced.

But I have to admit that before that day, I also thought that there were not enough proofs to convince me that contrails were chemtrails. Now I have not doubt, but just because I saw many things that don't fit with normal trails.

In the same way, Marpat just needs that push. And I don't think anyone would be able to convince him until he witness an "odd" event like I did (just my humble opinion, as it is what happened to me).

I also say that Marpat's subcounscious knows there is something wrong with the trails because otherwise he wouldn't be arround these forum for so long, which means that we is somehow attracted to the subject; though he affirms he doesnt' believe.

Forgetting Mr Marpat for a moment...

Good for you for overcoming your skepticism! :)

I know loads of skeptics and I don't kid myself that I could convince them that chemtrails are real.

But they wouldn't spend 2 years on a forum and post loads of stuff while continually denying the facts which have been offered to them so many times.

The Marpat chemtrail thread, especially post number 5, presents a long list facts which he surely must acknowledge....

And pigs might fly! :p

[flyermay]

But they wouldn't spend 2 years on a forum and post loads of stuff while continually denying the facts which have been offered to them so many times.

I know exactly what you mean; I tried to reason with Marpat many times, and he just picks and chooses the arguments that are convenient for him and disregard the ones that are not. So I simply decided not to lose more time arguing with him.

If I tell you the truth, I don't care that much if he believes it or not (it is irrelevant). I accept that many people feel better by denying the evident and believing what they want to believe; like all of those that deny the facts of 911. It just makes them feel better and gives them a false sense of hope and security.

By the way, you did a great job with the new thread!!!

[anthony65]

I know exactly what you mean; I tried to reason with Marpat many times, and he just picks and chooses the arguments that are convenient for him and disregard the ones that are not. So I simply decided not to lose more time arguing with him.

If I tell you the truth, I don't care that much if he believes it or not (it is irrelevant). I accept that many people feel better by denying the evident and believing what they want to believe; like all of those that deny the facts of 911. It just makes them feel better and gives them a false sense of hope and security.

By the way, you did a great job with the new thread!!!

Cheers! :)

I'll create a new thread (without the marpat reference) as I think post number 5 is a good factual introduction to the topic.

The subject is too important to get bogged down in silly arguments, but sometimes we have to make an effort to desillify the debate! :D

[cleopatraxxx]

Cheers! :)

I'll create a new thread (without the marpat reference) as I think post number 5 is a good factual introduction to the topic.

The subject is too important to get bogged down in silly arguments, but sometimes we have to make an effort to desillify the debate! :D

i support you Anthony65

[banjoreality]

hi everyone.... thumb note: THE PROS REFER TO CHEMTRAILS AS SCATTERING OR DIRECT INDIRECT AEROSOL PROGRAMS GOOGLE IT AND YOU WILL GET REAL INFORMATION THAT PUTS TO SHAME ALL THE CRAPPY CONTRAIL VS CHEMTRAIL DEBATES.... YOU CAN ALSO GOOGLE PACIFIC NORTHWEST LABS OR BATTELLE THAT SHOULD GET THE BALL ROLLING (eh marpywarpy?)....

[flyermay]

Don't think that the chemtrails over London are over, or that I left my watchtower just because there were no reports last week. Unfortunately, we had quite some bad weather, and it was impossible for me to see them.

As soon as the skies cleared, and causally at the same time as every other day, I witnesses their suspecious activities in the far West side of the city (no pictures this time though, as they wouldn't show anything special).

At the moment, we have a clear sky, and I bet you it will continue just like that until 7pm (as usual).

I heard there was an air traffic controller around in this forum; maybe he can explain me why the chemtrails -or any other visible trail, for a matter of fact- tend to concentrate at around 7pm, at the same time that dozens of planes fly at high altitude in all directions, and never during any other time of the day?

[flyermay]

Well, well, well... We just had an attemp of a double session today; the same as 2 Sunday's ago, and at the exact same time (mid day).

Just after posting my message I noticed that a quite unusual amount of traffic crossed the sky over West London in all direction. They did it for an hour or so, most of them 4 engine aircraft. I could see their trails, but this time they dissipated as normal contrails. Are we making any progress, or do we have to thank the gifting of orgonite that Anthony and Banjo are talking about?

It is still unclear why planes cross the same area of the sky at the same time, whether or not they leave chemtrails.

[marpat]

Banjo pointed me towards this site. Some good information on how persistent contrails are formed:

http://www.pnl.gov/aisu/pubs/eemw/papers/ipccreports/specialreports/aviation/038.htm

[antinwo]

Been a lovely clear blue sky here today in Teesside not a chemtrail in sight, it has been delightful:D

[banjoreality]

Banjo pointed me towards this site. Some good information on how persistent contrails are formed:

http://www.pnl.gov/aisu/pubs/eemw/papers/ipccreports/specialreports/aviation/038.htm

you are such a f'n shill, ya minds twisted....... I said to look up direct and indirect aerosol programs, cos that's what the labs call it....GOOGLE SCATTERING, TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE CHEMTRAIL CONSPIRACY.

[flyermay]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related

[anthony65]

Well, well, well... We just had an attemp of a double session today; the same as 2 Sunday's ago, and at the exact same time (mid day).

Just after posting my message I noticed that a quite unusual amount of traffic crossed the sky over West London in all direction. They did it for an hour or so, most of them 4 engine aircraft. I could see their trails, but this time they dissipated as normal contrails. Are we making any progress, or do we have to thank the gifting of orgonite that Anthony and Banjo are talking about?

It is still unclear why planes cross the same area of the sky at the same time, whether or not they leave chemtrails.

Are we making any progress, or do we have to thank the gifting of orgonite that Anthony and Banjo are talking about?

I think you have to thank the magnificent efforts of a few orgonite gifters in Central and West London.

I recommend anyone to simply to try it out for themselves!

[banjoreality]

Are we making any progress, or do we have to thank the gifting of orgonite that Anthony and Banjo are talking about?

I think you have to thank the magnificent efforts of a few orgonite gifters in Central and West London.

I recommend anyone to simply to try it out for themselves!

FUUUUUCCCKKKKIIIINNNN HHHHOOOOOUUUURRRRAAAYYY!!!!!!!!
I swear: I have been using the orgonite for 4 days, I believe the best results are when one is actively, consciously "spraying" the sky, observing the differences, the sky here has been amazing (the chemtrail planes seem to have given up after the second day), I hadn't seen cumulus clouds here in 2 years...... please believe... life is magic....... all my love and thanks go out to you anthony.:)
keep at it flyer, your posts make me H A P P Y :)

[hagbard_celine]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related

Sorry mate. That's just a new airliner being tested.:( The kegs just contain water. Each one weighs as much as an average person and so they put them in the cabin to simulate what it would be like for the plane with passengers on board.

[flyermay]

Sorry mate. That's just a new airliner being tested.:( The kegs just contain water. Each one weighs as much as an average person and so they put them in the cabin to simulate what it would be like for the plane with passengers on board.

Sorry, you are right; I was just confused by the pipelines connecting them all. Obviously, simulating passenger weight in a airliner is far more complicated than we all thought!!!

[anthony65]

Sorry mate. That's just a new airliner being tested.:( The kegs just contain water. Each one weighs as much as an average person and so they put them in the cabin to simulate what it would be like for the plane with passengers on board.

The barrels are used to simulate the alcohol intake of a planeload of British tourists returning from Majorca...

I think this photo was a bit of a piss take.

There is a patent (I think from the US Navy) that describes a system for adding stuff to the fuel....

Must search...

Over here I think...

Hold on...

[hagbard_celine]

Sorry, you are right; I was just confused by the pipelines connecting them all. Obviously, simulating passenger weight in a airliner is far more complicated than we all thought!!!


I imagine chemtrail planes would handle their noxious cargo a bit more carefully. I bet they cary the chemicals in a sealled tank separated from the passenger compartments.

[hagbard_celine]

The barrels are used to simulate the alcohol intake of a planeload of British tourists returning from Majorca...



Ha ha!:D

[flyermay]

I imagine chemtrail planes would handle their noxious cargo a bit more carefully. I bet they cary the chemicals in a sealled tank separated from the passenger compartments.

Who said that chemtrail planes have passengers at all?

Who said that there is only one way of spraying chemtrails?

Who said the cargo is noxious?

If all this is so clear and well known, then what's the point of arguing anymore about chemtrails? they would be a fact, wouldn't they?

(I'm just asking...)

[anthony65]

Who said that chemtrail planes have passengers at all?

Who said that there is only one way of spraying chemtrails?

Who said the cargo is noxious?

If all this is so clear and well known, then what's the point of arguing anymore about chemtrails? they would be a fact, wouldn't they?

(I'm just asking...)

Who said that chemtrail planes have passengers at all?

Who knows, but probably not.

My opinion is that there are different types of planes involved:

1: Commercial jets with regular jet fuel that can stick if the HAARP network has been in action and perhaprs also aided by the chemtrails of other planes.

2: Military aircraft with perhaps a different jet fuel more conducive to leaving trails (I think this was seen in Kosovo) and of course don't forget that the British government admitted to spraying its own people in the past.

3: Black ops planes who could be fitted out with anything and have anything possible in their fuel.

I don't think anybody has said that there is one way of spraying chemtrails. If they did, they should rethink the statement because it doesn't make sense. How can they know?

Is the cargo noxious? I think all jet fuel is pretty yucky stuff, but every batch of fuel could be different.

I'm of the opinion that chemtrails are multi-purpose.

What is clear and known about chemtrails are, for example, the facts I posted on the "Great Chemtrail Debate" thread as it is now known, post number 5.

There are a number of hard facts...

And then there is an area which can only be covered by speculation.

That's why I think it's important to establish the groundwork of facts, and make them available while additionally comparing observations and sepculations, which given the right research might lead to additional facts.

[flyermay]

Who said that chemtrail planes have passengers at all?

Who knows, but probably not.

My opinion is that there are different types of planes involved:

1: Commercial jets with regular jet fuel that can stick if the HAARP network has been in action and perhaprs also aided by the chemtrails of other planes.

2: Military aircraft with perhaps a different jet fuel more conducive to leaving trails (I think this was seen in Kosovo) and of course don't forget that the British government admitted to spraying its own people in the past.

3: Black ops planes who could be fitted out with anything and have anything possible in their fuel.

I don't think anybody has said that there is one way of spraying chemtrails. If they did, they should rethink the statement because it doesn't make sense. How can they know?

Is the cargo noxious? I think all jet fuel is pretty yucky stuff, but every batch of fuel could be different.

I'm of the opinion that chemtrails are multi-purpose.

What is clear and known about chemtrails are, for example, the facts I posted on the "Great Chemtrail Debate" thread as it is now known, post number 5.

There are a number of hard facts...

And then there is an area which can only be covered by speculation.

That's why I think it's important to establish the groundwork of facts, and make them available while additionally comparing observations and sepculations, which given the right research might lead to additional facts.

Thanks Anthony, that's my actually my point of view too. There is no point having all these people disregarding the chamtrails for one or another issue when the possibilities of "who does it, and how they do it" are practcially endless.

For example, what's they point of arguing if the picture I posted belongs to a passenger plane or not. Once thing is sure, that's not water to simulate passenger weight (neither beer for the cabin crew :D)

[anthony65]

Thanks Anthony, that's my actually my point of view too. There is no point having all these people disregarding the chamtrails for one or another issue when the possibilities of "who does it, and how they do it" are practcially endless.

For example, what's they point of arguing if the picture I posted belongs to a passenger plane or not. Once thing is sure, that's not water to simulate passenger weight (neither beer for the cabin crew :D)

Look what Gilly just inspired me to find!

Plasma clouds... Fake clouds... Haarp clouds...

This is just one application. I reckon they're also generated by HAARP like antennas. Gilly posted a thread about bending lasers and ionized plasma being used to divert lightning.

Note the reference to the 100kg plasma generator!

http://www.gnrtr.com/Data_eng/ContBlocks/00102/plane_plasma.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gnrtr.com/Data_eng/ContBlocks/00102/plane_plasma.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gnrtr.com/Generator.html%3Fpi%3D102%26cp%3D3&usg=__pm_usTm5ZJCUey3Yd5EWpfdShUc=&h=240&w=320&sz=13&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=BEeBgnqh7kkQLM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dplasma%2Bcloud%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff %26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

Providing secret air operations is an important problem.

Providing secret air operations is an important problem. Everyone remembers very well the American programs that allowed development of the fighter aircraft F-117 and bomber B-2. To provide invisibility of these aircraft, geometrical and substance resources were used. This means that the form of the aircraft was selected so as to make them least visible on the radio locator screens and their surface was coated with a special non-reflecting material (substance resource).
According to the trends of engineering systems evolution, the next step is the use of molecular-plasma structures and fields. In Russia, the method for reducing the aircraft visibility is underway. This method implies the hiding of an aircraft in a plasma cloud. A generator powered by isolated power sources ionizes the air around the aircraft (presumably the front edges of airfoil surfaces). The ionized air in the boundary layer flows around the airplane thereby hiding it in a plasma cloud invisible to the enemy's radars.
To realize this physical effect, the Research Center M.V.Keldysh is developing a 100 kg plasma generator that can be installed on a tactic fighter. The prototype has been tested on models and on board a real fighter aircraft. It is expected that Su-32/34 will become the first aircraft equipped with such a system.

[flyermay]

Look what Gilly just inspired me to find!

Plasma clouds... Fake clouds... Haarp clouds...

This is just one application. I reckon they're also generated by HAARP like antennas. Gilly posted a thread about bending lasers and ionized plasma being used to divert lightning.

Note the reference to the 100kg plasma generator!

http://www.gnrtr.com/Data_eng/ContBlocks/00102/plane_plasma.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gnrtr.com/Data_eng/ContBlocks/00102/plane_plasma.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gnrtr.com/Generator.html%3Fpi%3D102%26cp%3D3&usg=__pm_usTm5ZJCUey3Yd5EWpfdShUc=&h=240&w=320&sz=13&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=BEeBgnqh7kkQLM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dplasma%2Bcloud%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff %26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

Providing secret air operations is an important problem.

Providing secret air operations is an important problem. Everyone remembers very well the American programs that allowed development of the fighter aircraft F-117 and bomber B-2. To provide invisibility of these aircraft, geometrical and substance resources were used. This means that the form of the aircraft was selected so as to make them least visible on the radio locator screens and their surface was coated with a special non-reflecting material (substance resource).
According to the trends of engineering systems evolution, the next step is the use of molecular-plasma structures and fields. In Russia, the method for reducing the aircraft visibility is underway. This method implies the hiding of an aircraft in a plasma cloud. A generator powered by isolated power sources ionizes the air around the aircraft (presumably the front edges of airfoil surfaces). The ionized air in the boundary layer flows around the airplane thereby hiding it in a plasma cloud invisible to the enemy's radars.
To realize this physical effect, the Research Center M.V.Keldysh is developing a 100 kg plasma generator that can be installed on a tactic fighter. The prototype has been tested on models and on board a real fighter aircraft. It is expected that Su-32/34 will become the first aircraft equipped with such a system.

Amazing!!!

But bear in mind that if the "Air Forces monthly" is publishing that article the US airforce is already far beyond the plasma clouds. In the same way that the stealth bombers and fighters were developed decades before we ever heard of them.

I would like to see if they did any studies about the effect that all these stuff has on the atmosphere and the environment in general.

[flyermay]

by the way, they tried to chemtrail today around 5pm, but something odd happened. You could see lots of planes at the same time leaving chemtrails (the wide chemtrails, not the smaller ones from 2/4 engine planes), but they didn't stick in all areas of the sky. You could see like in minutes, the chemtrails were cut into sections, and in an hour most of the dissipated but a few sections towards the west.

By the way, I'm expecting my new camera with zoom tomorrow morning. No more pictures from a mobile (I hope I'm able to zoon enough to check if they are military planes -though for the price of the camera I guess I won't-).

[fekdemasons]

Found my sodding camera / usb lead in the garage.

ANyways here are the pics I took two weeks ago or more.

http://img5.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=chemtrails008.jpg

[flyermay]

Found my sodding camera / usb lead in the garage.

ANyways here are the pics I took two weeks ago or more.

http://img5.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=chemtrails008.jpg

Here are all the pictures I took in just 1 month.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=313

(Not sure you can see my picture album)