UK Chemtrails

[jim fear]

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[jim fear]

Hi Jim
Hear is a link to a tutorial put together by our very own LimeLady, showing how to upload photos :-
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30387
Hope it helps mate. If it dont, then blame LimeLady ;):D

Thanks for the linkski!

So what do u lot think? is this Bug spray? or is it jsut weird summer cloud?

[steevo]

Thanks for the linkski!

So what do u lot think? is this Bug spray? or is it jsut weird summer cloud?

Ok let me start by saying I dont KNOW what is in those "chem trails" that we always go on about BUT what I do know is that when I was a kid, I used to stare at con-trails and think how interesting they looked and, very much to my disapointment, within about 10 mins they were gone.

Jim, those trails in your pictures look TO ME to be Chem-Trails, they EXPAND and get bigger and they dont disapear, they just turn into what looks like clouds.

[forza nascosta]

This was the scene outside my front door about an hour ago.

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[Mo0n5tar]

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just took these while walking through town, I noticed shades of black and grey on the sunset this evening, showing how much pollution is going on, after spending a few days in the country then coming back to the city, I notice the inside of my nose burns when walking, and deep nasal respiration is unpleasant.

[daveybpl]

Glasgow this morning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/daveybpl/chembo.jpg

[angelmoon]

traveled from Newcastle to Yorkshire today and the sky was full of planes spewing out chemicals and i have a sore throat now and i think i know why , the feckers they wont even let us have a sunny day to enjoy :mad:

[saab1981]

My kid is off school today with a really bad headache, and my whole family is feeling run down also. Yesterday, the area I live in was bombarded with chemtrails all bloody day long.

[steevo]

YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS TO BELIEVE IT. Chem-trails are being used to block out the sun. It's UNBELIEVABLE what I am seeing today. Yesterday there were no chemtrails AT ALL. Today what I am seeing is totally unbelievable. There are planes every minute flying acrass the path that the sun is gonna take. It truly is amazing. This is real evidence and I dont have a decent video camera. I have took some pics but they dont do it justice cos I doubt that you can tell that they are chem-trails. To look at them they seem like they may be clouds but they are not. I cant express this in words, it's unbelievable. And now I have burnt my lunch cos of it :mad:

[steevo]

This picture doesnt do it justice. These trails actually go much further to the right too and so what you are seeing here is half the width AT LEAST of the trails.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1681/amazingchemlb9.jpg

[steevo]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6953/amazingchem2kt2.jpg

[steevo]

The are now chem-trailing directly above and behind me. It's systematic chem-trailing. I watched a couple of planes stop chem-trailing and then start again. I think maybe they DO go around in circles cos I noticed that one of the planes seemed to start turning when they switched the chemtrail off and then it started switching it on and off repeatedly with gaps maybe so that they made full use of their spraying time but also so that no-one notices that they go around in circles. I can't say for definite that it came back around cos I lost track of it but I will look out for this in the future.

[marpat]

I posted this question in another thread but rather than type it out again i have just copied it.

I have a question about chemtrails. If they are supposed to have an effect of people then why would they use a vapour that persists in the atmoshpere? people state that these trails are in the atmospehere for many hours.

Crop dusting aircraft drop stuff onto plants and it falls quickly so that it will not be dispersed by wind but to spray a vapour at 35,000 ft which does not fall quickly doesn't make sense if it is intended to poison people. The wind could carry it many miles from the area that the trail was present in. Such a method is completely inefficient for the delivery of chemicals. If this sort of spraying was going on and it was falling to the ground then there must be trace evidence absolutely everywhere due to the height of the aircraft and the wide dispersion of the trails.

Surely such widespread spraying would effect not only the people but the police the military and the policiticans themselves.

Any ideas?

[steevo]

I posted this question in another thread but rather than type it out again i have just copied it.

I have a question about chemtrails. If they are supposed to have an effect of people then why would they use a vapour that persists in the atmoshpere? people state that these trails are in the atmospehere for many hours.

Crop dusting aircraft drop stuff onto plants and it falls quickly so that it will not be dispersed by wind but to spray a vapour at 35,000 ft which does not fall quickly doesn't make sense if it is intended to poison people. The wind could carry it many miles from the area that the trail was present in. Such a method is completely inefficient for the delivery of chemicals. If this sort of spraying was going on and it was falling to the ground then there must be trace evidence absolutely everywhere due to the height of the aircraft and the wide dispersion of the trails.

Surely such widespread spraying would effect not only the people but the police the military and the policiticans themselves.

Any ideas?

Did you read my posts above Marpat ?

[shodan]

They could have a vaccine that makes them immune. they are totally into genitics and vaccines after all.
or they could be given a dud vaccine and be telling them its an antidote, all in line with the eugenics societies way of thinking.

The point is they are spraying everyone, the grey area is WHY and WHAT FOR

[marpat]

Did you read my posts above Marpat ?

Some of them. I can accept that cloud seeding may be used to some degree but what about the poisoning side, which is more what I am on about. If solar radiation has been on the increase then cloud seeding would seem like a good idea.

[marpat]

They could have a vaccine that makes them immune. they are totally into genitics and vaccines after all.
or they could be given a dud vaccine and be telling them its an antidote, all in line with the eugenics societies way of thinking.

The point is they are spraying everyone, the grey area is WHY and WHAT FOR


Who could have a vaccine and who would be eligible? does this not mean that you have to use another unproven theory to cover the gap?

[steevo]

They could have a vaccine that makes them immune. they are totally into genitics and vaccines after all.
or they could be given a dud vaccine and be telling them its an antidote, all in line with the eugenics societies way of thinking.

The point is they are spraying everyone, the grey area is WHY and WHAT FOR

The chem-trails could possibily be used for different purposes and maybe they use different chemicals eg. for making cloud cover, or sedating people, or targetting a certain DNA. This is the "grey area".
Thanks Shodan.

[steevo]

Some of them. I can accept that cloud seeding may be used to some degree but what about the poisoning side, which is more what I am on about. If solar radiation has been on the increase then cloud seeding would seem like a good idea.

Either that or you could stay indoors more Marpat ? I am being serious. I prefer to have to sun's rays on me because they have MASSIVE healing qualities, more than any medicine in my opinion. And my opinion is based on speaking to my friends and family who say that they are more healthier when the sun shines and I agree with them. They dont lie to me and I dont lie to myself.
Seriously Marpat you should get out of the sun if you are worried. I dont want the sun blocking out, it will make people very unhealthy. Although, having said that the Pharmaceutical companies make bigger profits if we are unhealthy :cool: You should get shares in them Marpat ;):D

[marpat]

Either that or you could stay indoors more Marpat ? I am being serious. I prefer to have to sun's rays on me because they have MASSIVE healing qualities, more than any medicine in my opinion. And my opinion is based on speaking to my friends and family who say that they are more healthier when the sun shines and I agree with them. They dont lie to me and I dont lie to myself.
Seriously Marpat you should get out of the sun if you are worried. I dont want the sun blocking out, it will make people very unhealthy. Although, having said that the Pharmaceutical companies make bigger profits if we are unhealthy :cool: You should get shares in them Marpat ;):D

Healing qualities in the correct dose. The sun can also cause burns and heat stroke if you hadn't noticed. Perhaps you haven't been out enough in the sun to notice these negative side effects.

If people are unhealthy when there is no sun then how do they manage in the far north when you have 6 months of darkness?

People may feel better when the sun shines but it could be as much psychological as physiological.

[steevo]

Healing qualities in the correct dose. The sun can also cause burns and heat stroke if you hadn't noticed. Perhaps you haven't been out enough in the sun to notice these negative side effects.

If people are unhealthy when there is no sun then how do they manage in the far north when you have 6 months of darkness?

I havent had enough sun in the last two years thanks to the chemtrailing and weather manipulation. Yeah Iknow that the sun can damage your skin and make you rather ill ESPECIALLY when you arent used to getting sun on you but in time when we stop hiding from it, it will be a great medicine. We are told that the sun is dangerous by "The powers that be" but it's funny how they never mention the healing properties :rolleyes:

Those people who get no sun for 6 months are likely to become very unhealthy Marpat in my opinion.

[steevo]

People may feel better when the sun shines but it could be as much psychological as physiological.

Yes and BOTH of these contribute to the well being and health of an individual. Thanks for pointing that out Marpat :)

[marpat]

I havent had enough sun in the last two years thanks to the chemtrailing and weather manipulation. Yeah Iknow that the sun can damage your skin and make you rather ill ESPECIALLY when you arent used to getting sun on you but in time when we stop hiding from it, it will be a great medicine. We are told that the sun is dangerous by "The powers that be" but it's funny how they never mention the healing properties :rolleyes:

Those people who get no sun for 6 months are likely to become very unhealthy Marpat in my opinion.


Wierd that because I went to the Falklands a couple of years ago. Went from our winter to theirs, worked in a building with no windows and didn't see much daylight. Apart from looking a bit colourless I was fine though.

You got any real experience of lack of sunlight?

I was of the belief that even doctors believe the sun can be healthy.

The fact is that the sun can be dangerous. Perhaps you should talk to people who live in the desert.

[shodan]

Who could have a vaccine and who would be eligible?

Use your noggin! For example, the first people to get the Bird Flu vaccine in the UK are the Police, NHS staff, military.
and this is just my theory, they may have been told (and it may well be) its weather modification and completely harmless. again, they may be totally unaware and more concerned about whats on TV!

does this not mean that you have to use another unproven theory to cover the gap?

well thats one misconstrued angle, I said the WHY and WHAT FOR were a grey area.
the fact that our skies are a disgusting mess all over the planet and the weather changes as a result of it - due to something coming out of the back of aeroplanes - is a fact, indeed one the most glaringly obvious facts because you can see it for yourself.

[steevo]

Wierd that because I went to the Falklands a couple of years ago. Went from our winter to theirs, worked in a building with no windows and didn't see much daylight. Apart from looking a bit colourless I was fine though.

You got any real experience of lack of sunlight?

I was of the belief that even doctors believe the sun can be healthy.

The fact is that the sun can be dangerous. Perhaps you should talk to people who live in the desert.

The people in the desert seem to do ok as far as I know.

I have experience of lack of sunlight over the last two years as I have ALREADY MENTIONED :rolleyes: Please keep up Marpat :D

So you say that you went to the Fauklands. Was that 6 months of darkness ? If not, then you are not comparing like with like. Anyway, are you SURE it didnt effect you ? :confused:;):D

[marpat]

Use your noggin! For example, the first people to get the Bird Flu vaccine in the UK are the Police, NHS staff, military.
and this is just my theory, they may have been told (and it may well be) its weather modification and completely harmless. again, they may be totally unaware and more concerned about whats on TV!



well thats one misconstrued angle, I said the WHY and WHAT FOR were a grey area.
the fact that our skies are a disgusting mess all over the planet and the weather changes as a result of it - due to something coming out of the back of aeroplanes - is a fact, indeed one the most glaringly obvious facts because you can see it for yourself.

But I am in the military and have had no unusual vaccinations. I was even given the choice if I wanted the anthrax jab or not.

[marpat]

The people in the desert seem to do ok as far as I know.
I have experience of lack of sunlight over the last two years as I have ALREADY MENTIONED :rolleyes: Please keep up Marpat :D

So you say that you went to the Fauklands. Was that 6 months of darkness ? If not, then you are not comparing like with like. Anyway, are you SURE it didnt effect you ? :confused:;):D

They know enough to respect the power of the sun not to act as if it is some miracle cure. You are talking like some hippy.

But I think we are getting off subject. If the chemtrails are blocking sunlight it is not total. I am sure I read about an increase of solar activity and you have to look at what effect that has. It is not hard to imagine that increase heat could cause a lack of water and therefore a drought, which would effect crops and livestock and people alike. Have you looked at all the side effects?

[steevo]

They know enough to respect the power of the sun not to act as if it is some miracle cure. You are talking like some hippy.

But I think we are getting off subject. If the chemtrails are blocking sunlight it is not total. I am sure I read about an increase of solar activity and you have to look at what effect that has. It is not hard to imagine that increase heat could cause a lack of water and therefore a drought, which would effect crops and livestock and people alike. Have you looked at all the side effects?

Your asking me to look at the side effects when we havent even agreed that there is a problem of being too much sun. You really should stop relying TOTALLY on Logical Fallacies (http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html) to try to win debates. Ok use them but dont rely 100% on them like you are currently doing.

[marpat]

Your asking me to look at the side effects when we havent even agreed that there is a problem of being too much sun. You really should stop relying TOTALLY on Logical Fallacies (http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html) to try to win debates. Ok use them but dont rely 100% on them like you are currently doing.

Who is relying on anything? personally I think the chemtrail theory is false for many reason as I have given in the past.

If you cant agree that too much sun is harmful the you must be deliberately bliding yourself so that your ideas can fit some nice little theory about the sun being nothing but a source of healing. Fire can heat people,warm their food, help them to create many things but it can also maim and kill and seriously injure.

Anyway this thread is about chemtrails. I asked a question about why people believe they are spraying poison if the trails persist in the air for hours. Why would that be? if you spray something to effect people you want it to fall quickly, not be dispersed by the wind. If it is sprayed over such a wide area then trace evidence must be found everywhere.

[steevo]

Who is relying on anything? personally I think the chemtrail theory is false for many reason as I have given in the past.

If you cant agree that too much sun is harmful the you must be deliberately bliding yourself so that your ideas can fit some nice little theory about the sun being nothing but a source of healing. Fire can heat people,warm their food, help them to create many things but it can also maim and kill and seriously injure.

When did I say that "too much sun" isnt harmful. Putting words into my mouth. tut!

Anyway this thread is about chemtrails. I asked a question about why people believe they are spraying poison if the trails persist in the air for hours. Why would that be? if you spray something to effect people you want it to fall quickly, not be dispersed by the wind. If it is sprayed over such a wide area then trace evidence must be found everywhere.

I posted a video previously (on here I think) of a US news report which show that people found Barium (and other toxic chemicals) which led a government representitive to "admit" that they are spraying but they said it was for weather manipulation. Why is it all kept secret if it's just for weather manipulation ?

[marpat]

I posted a video previously (on here I think) of a US news report which show that people found Barium (and other toxic chemicals) which led a government representitive to "admit" that they are spraying but they said it was for weather manipulation. Why is it all kept secret if it's just for weather manipulation ?

Can you repost that vid so I can see it.

If this is the case then barium will be present everywhere due to the supposed wide scale spraying. Have you looked into barium and its uses? people swallow the stuff for medical scanning. I would be very interested if people were to find samples of this material in any location. If the spraying of this stuff is as widespread as people say then acquiring samples will not be hard.

Why keep it secret? why not, if it is part of some advanced research then why would they just go around telling anybody? maybe if there are no health risks to people they were not required to make a public statement. Who knows.

[steevo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Inquiry into spray cancer claims (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4507036.stm)

[disorder2k8]

I think I know one(and some other) of the reasons to create cloud, it is the same reason the sun is getting whiter and brighter and is linked to the projects (by ukranians I believe) that directed a laser light through a frog embryo and into a salamander embryo, changing the latter into the former and ending up with 2 frogs :)


Light is the source of all particles and the creational centre of our solar system. It contains the same ingredients we do.

Light is a giver of life and grower of FOOD.

We are light beings, who have a choice to ascend to the light.

Light is a wave which jiggles particles and forces them to move. If you heat enough, particles seperate into a gas !

The sun is part of our DNA/evolution programming (see first comment)

Free solar power will not work.

Solar and sky objects can be hidden.

[marpat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Inquiry into spray cancer claims (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4507036.stm)


Interesting vid. I would have to ask if the barium collected in that guys garden was from the trail though. Could it have gotten into the atmosphere another way,ie. a chemical plant nearby of some type, does he live near fields where crop spraying goes on, etc.

Like I said before trace evidence must e everywhere if it is so widespread so if people follow what he was doing then you cannot fail to acquire physical evidence. It still does not eliminate some problems though, such as the fact that everybody will be effected by such spraying and not just the public.

[steevo]

Interesting vid. I would have to ask if the barium collected in that guys garden was from the trail though. Could it have gotten into the atmosphere another way,ie. a chemical plant nearby of some type, does he live near fields where crop spraying goes on, etc.

Like I said before trace evidence must e everywhere if it is so widespread so if people follow what he was doing then you cannot fail to acquire physical evidence. It still does not eliminate some problems though, such as the fact that everybody will be effected by such spraying and not just the public.

Like Shodan has said, "the WHY and WHAT FOR are a grey area".
I posted that video a couple of times before and you never watched it ? There is also another video which I will have to look for. It's similar but it clearly admits that that they are manipulating the weather and shows people collecting the evidence (barium). That video has been posted a few times too. And you have been on the relevent threads I'm pretty sure of that so please watch the videos BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE. If you dont want to see the evidence then dont ask for it in future cos it's a waste of time really and I'm sure you are not here to waste everyones time are you Marpat ? ;):D

So do you now admit that Chemtrails do exist Marpat ?

[marpat]

Like Shodan has said, "the WHY and WHAT FOR are a grey area".
I posted that video a couple of times before and you never watched it ? There is also another video which I will have to look for. It's similar but it clearly admits that that they are manipulating the weather and shows people collecting the evidence (barium). That video has been posted a few times too. And you have been on the relevent threads I'm pretty sure of that so please watch the videos BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE. If you dont want to see the evidence then dont ask for it in future cos it's a waste of time really and I'm sure you are not here to waste everyones time are you Marpat ? ;):D

So do you now admit that Chemtrails do exist Marpat ?

I am happy to admit that possiblity. What I dont get though is if this is going on all over then why have thousands of people who are aware of it not gathered the evidence.

I dont class that vid as evidence as you cannot be sure if the barium came from a chemtrail, you have to trust the guys word for it. For all you know he could have put that there himself. I know I might be picky but you have to eliminate such things if you are going to get definitive proof. How many people fake UFO footage just to draw attention to their cause? it is not a small number. Lke I said I am happy to keep an open mind.

You said that they are flying over your pad, so have you collected any barium yet?

[steevo]

I am happy to admit that possiblity. What I dont get though is if this is going on all over then why have thousands of people who are aware of it not gathered the evidence.

I dont class that vid as evidence as you cannot be sure if the barium came from a chemtrail, you have to trust the guys word for it. For all you know he could have put that there himself. I know I might be picky but you have to eliminate such things if you are going to get definitive proof. How many people fake UFO footage just to draw attention to their cause? it is not a small number. Lke I said I am happy to keep an open mind.

You said that they are flying over your pad, so have you collected any barium yet?

When I learn how to collect it and test it then I will yes Marpat. Are you gonna test it too ? Cos otherwise how would we be able to prove it to you without you testing it for yourself ?

Anyway Marpat, it's great to have you aboard with us now researching Chemtrails. It's brilliant how the mainstream media news can have such a powerful effect and influence over people and actually make them change their minds on things.

[disorder2k8]

Got a few more tonight..

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/DSC00323.jpg

[marpat]

When I learn how to collect it and test it then I will yes Marpat. Are you gonna test it too ? Cos otherwise how would we be able to prove it to you without you testing it for yourself ?

Anyway Marpat, it's great to have you aboard with us now researching Chemtrails. It's brilliant how the mainstream media news can have such a powerful effect and influence over people and actually make them change their minds on things.


I have not got a problem with doing what I say others should do. The only real thing is to find a good way of testing.

[disorder2k8]

WTF is going on!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/Image2.jpg

Anyone see the blatant puppy and many other things !

[steevo]

I have not got a problem with doing what I say others should do. The only real thing is to find a good way of testing.

Well we can put our heads together and come up with something I'm sure, and maybe others on here may have some expertise on the subject.

[steevo]

The first step would be to find out what the test is for Barium. I will check that out when a get a minute, I am busy right now unfortunately.

[polveirbecker]

They seems to be a lot of Chemtrails near my house and I live opposite three schools. It upsets me on a sunny day when I see such things running wild in what could be clear blue sky.

[artmoss3]

I posted this question in another thread but rather than type it out again i have just copied it.

I have a question about chemtrails. If they are supposed to have an effect of people then why would they use a vapour that persists in the atmoshpere? people state that these trails are in the atmospehere for many hours.

Crop dusting aircraft drop stuff onto plants and it falls quickly so that it will not be dispersed by wind but to spray a vapour at 35,000 ft which does not fall quickly doesn't make sense if it is intended to poison people. The wind could carry it many miles from the area that the trail was present in. Such a method is completely inefficient for the delivery of chemicals. If this sort of spraying was going on and it was falling to the ground then there must be trace evidence absolutely everywhere due to the height of the aircraft and the wide dispersion of the trails.

Surely such widespread spraying would effect not only the people but the police the military and the policiticans themselves.

Any ideas?

It is my understanding that the chemicals being sprayed are to facilitate the use of some of "their" radical technology, specifically mind control techniques via certain frequencies generated by "cell phone-type" towers, and this chemical-rich lower atmosphere would allow for that to be applied more effectively.
I've also read that this type of environment makes for better use of holograms.

[legendary]

It is my understanding that the chemicals being sprayed are to facilitate the use of some of "their" radical technology, specifically mind control techniques via certain frequencies generated by "cell phone-type" towers, and this chemical-rich lower atmosphere would allow for that to be applied more effectively.
I've also read that this type of environment makes for better use of holograms.

so from this your entire belief in chemtrails is based on speculation?

[artmoss3]

so from this your entire belief in chemtrails is based on speculation?

Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?

[legendary]

Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?

not really i saw a youtube video saying some MP enquired into it and they said we can't discuss ongoing investigations

but that was all just written down and i didn't really dig into it to see if it's true or just made up

[jackassjoiner]

Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?

check this out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407&q=aerosol+crimes

very clear differentiation between the two and why/ how they form. we should be afraid according to this doc, i remember a time when there weren't any of these thick plumes in the sky. i saw somewhere that the us life span has dropped by eight years since 97. now that sounds huge to me but i dont know if this is accurate or in line with fair fluctuations, does anyone have access to this sort of data for the uk? and what people are dying of? should give us an idea as to wether we are all doomed or it is a total load of bollocks i am very interested to hear from you.

[lookfar]

check this out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407&q=aerosol+crimes

very clear differentiation between the two and why/ how they form. we should be afraid according to this doc, i remember a time when there weren't any of these thick plumes in the sky. i saw somewhere that the us life span has dropped by eight years since 97. now that sounds huge to me but i dont know if this is accurate or in line with fair fluctuations, does anyone have access to this sort of data for the uk? and what people are dying of? should give us an idea as to wether we are all doomed or it is a total load of bollocks i am very interested to hear from you.

Hi jackassjoiner & welcome to the forum:)

That's a good vid & I recommend it to those who haven't seen it.

I would also like to see some UK stats on this issue. I'm still not 100% sure what they're really doing with these chemtrails, there are various theories & I'm still sat on the fence, but I feel that whatever the real purpose it's not a good one:(

[lottie]

I agree with Lookfar- im pretty sure they're malevolent, I cant find any logical reason for them! There's not much new info about them either at the moment- i mean 'aerosol crimes' is really old now and i havnt seen much headway on people finding out what they are for definate recently!

ps; welcome too!!

[jackassjoiner]

i have just gone though the awakening over the last couple of years, all this stuff really is frustrating. there isn't much we can really do anyway is there? i am amazed at all this stuff i am learning about. sorry to post an old vid.

why is there not more of an aggresive backlash?

[jackassjoiner]

ps thank you for the welcome it is very nice to meet you

[lookfar]

i have just gone though the awakening over the last couple of years, all this stuff really is frustrating. there isn't much we can really do anyway is there? i am amazed at all this stuff i am learning about. sorry to post an old vid.

why is there not more of an aggresive backlash?

Yeah I think we've all been through the same sort of frustration & anger when finding out about this information. However, I don't feel we can do much about this particular issue until some more concrete evidence is discovered (which, as Lotts says, doesn't seem to be happening at the mo for whatever reason).

If you have managed to look back through this thread (I know it's got rather huge now & a bit daunting to get through:)), but you'll see that some people have contacted various aviation authorities & they all come back with the same reply, that they don't exist, they're normal contrails & nothing sinister is going on... "there's nothing to see here, just walk away":rolleyes: Getting precise measurements of exactly what's in them is very tricky indeed, which is why I suppose we have nothing more concrete right now.

Still as long as we're aware of a more bigger picture with possible ulterior motives, then I suppose that's the best we can do at the mo.

It's nice to meet you too & look forward to seeing you around the forums...:)

[qasrose]

Taken Today August 4th 2008 (never seen this many before)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00032.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00036.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00033.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00035.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00037.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/DSC00034.jpg

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Good pictures qasrose.... unfortunately, not good what those scumbags are doing. :mad:

Funny, I took a load of pics last night (around 20:30) last night (Monday 4th August). :eek:

I'll post 'em later... off to bed now! :-/

Similar patterns too...

[w1nstonsm1th84]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4210/hpim1528st6.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8715/hpim1533mh2.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9049/hpim1535hc9.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7427/hpim1541qy8.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5848/hpim1531qr6.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4282/hpim1543qf2.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3793/hpim1530iz3.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7581/hpim1532lz8.jpg

Oh yeah, It's raining today...total grey cloud coverage...goodbye Sun! :-/

[w1nstonsm1th84]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4210/hpim1528st6.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8715/hpim1533mh2.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9049/hpim1535hc9.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7427/hpim1541qy8.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5848/hpim1531qr6.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4282/hpim1543qf2.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3793/hpim1530iz3.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7581/hpim1532lz8.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7581/hpim1532lz8.jpg

Oh yeah, It's raining today...total grey cloud coverage...goodbye Sun! :mad:


4th August 2008- ~20:30-20:50

(9/8/08 today.... still no sun since that day really... just grey skies/rain) :-/

[mr_pixie]

Listen People They Are Laying Chemtrails At Night-time I Saw A Load Last Night, Big Thick Trials In The Dark, So No One Will See Them In The Act. Huge Trails, Big White Lines Like An Air Show Or Bigger Going Right Across The Sky. When I Saw Them Last Night I Knew It Would Be Pissing Down With Rain Today.

[steevo]

Listen People They Are Laying Chemtrails At Night-time I Saw A Load Last Night, Big Thick Trials In The Dark, So No One Will See Them In The Act. Huge Trails, Big White Lines Like An Air Show Or Bigger Going Right Across The Sky. When I Saw Them Last Night I Knew It Would Be Pissing Down With Rain Today.

Is it possible to see the trails at night ? I want to be able to prove this stuff to people (that they are doing it at night). I HAVE noticed that alot of holiday flights are now done at night time btw.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Is it possible to see the trails at night ? I want to be able to prove this stuff to people (that they are doing it at night). I HAVE noticed that alot of holiday flights are now done at night time btw.

For the past few years, I've heard the sneaky c**ts flying over where I live at night time. I hear the droning sound of their aeroplanes, and there are no commercial flight paths directly overhead! :mad:

[steevo]

For the past few years, I've heard the sneaky c**ts flying over where I live at night time. I hear the droning sound of their aeroplanes, and there are no commercial flight paths directly overhead! :mad:



Yeah, always seems to rain after they've sprayed us.

I wonder if there is way to photograph them at night time. Maybe infra-red or night vision ? I know that there is such technology available but does it work on chem-trails ? :confused: I have looked into the sky at night and cannot recall EVER seeing chem-trails but that would MAYBE suggest that they are not easily visible with the naked eye when it's dark, I dont know.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

I wonder if there is way to photograph them at night time. Maybe infra-red or night vision ? I know that there is such technology available but does it work on chem-trails ? :confused: I have looked into the sky at night and cannot recall EVER seeing chem-trails but that would MAYBE suggest that they are not easily visible with the naked eye when it's dark, I dont know.

I have no real idea as to how one could photograph such activity at night. I haven't actually seen anything either... but surely a good telescope could pick out the buggers (aeroplanes)! I bet the shifty b***ards use black 'planes at night- God knows! One thing is for certain, there's no public outcry over the spraying (day or night). The controlled media won't touch it, and I'm not going to contact any Freemasonic MP's about it. Sure, I could register my indignation, but they'll likely just mark me down as a 'potential terrorist'. :rolleyes:

Don't worry, the good old BBC will come out with some bullcrap 'explanation' soon, and the public will just buy it as usual. (see above subject title) :-/

[lizzy]

On Alan Watt's call-in a guest said that the barium 133 in chemtrails has a 10yr life opposed to the barium 23 and 33 that has only hours or days and that this barium 133 is a modifcation to the 23 isotope barium

We will all light up like radioactive christmas trees oneday. :eek:

[tootrue]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g5t-XczFOxg

[lookfar]

I wonder if there is way to photograph them at night time. Maybe infra-red or night vision ? I know that there is such technology available but does it work on chem-trails ? :confused: I have looked into the sky at night and cannot recall EVER seeing chem-trails but that would MAYBE suggest that they are not easily visible with the naked eye when it's dark, I dont know.

Hey steevo:)

I'm not sure what sort of equipment would be needed to do this properly, but Lotts & I did get a few pics of some over the moon last year. But it only worked as they were literally crossing a near full moon at the time. I bet there's lots of em done at night, they also spray heavily early morning too:(

Not seen any here for the last few days as it's been pretty cloudy.

[lookfar]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g5t-XczFOxg

That's a good vid there tootrue, thanks for sharing:) I've seen the chembows plenty of times now, but not quite that bad:eek: Also good shots of the dark chemtrails shown there too.

[eyepod]

I wonder if there is way to photograph them at night time. Maybe infra-red or night vision ? I know that there is such technology available but does it work on chem-trails ? :confused: I have looked into the sky at night and cannot recall EVER seeing chem-trails but that would MAYBE suggest that they are not easily visible with the naked eye when it's dark, I dont know.

As far as I know you would probably need to take the pics on a moonlit night, the camera would need to be on a tripod and you would need a camera that you can adjust the exposure time off. By increasing the exposure time more light falls on the film or recepetor things (if its a digital). The object would have to be stationary, so no good taking pics of the planes themselves just the trails. You would need a tripod because otherwise the longer exposure time would lead to blurring where you would be jigging about. You would have to experiment with exposure times. A photographer could probably tell you.

[eternal_spirit]

According to Watt

They would like to chip us all for total control but they don't need to do that to control/affect us-HAARP along with chemtrails-the metalic particles we breath in from the spraying makes us like a walking receiver, the particles are in the air which acts as a conducter/carrier which latches onto us creating a circuit to the particles inside our bodys, they can track us and affect our thoughts, moods, health.

Apparantly one of the Elites (can't remember the name) said in one of their writings years ago, that once HAARP/chemtrails are set up nuclear weapons will be obsolete as a form of fear/control

The cold war was a farce just used as fear and propaganda, the soviet system and the capitalist were a creation of the Elite and much of the money really went into research and funding for silent weapons HAARP etc.



This is what I've noticed in my locality recently

We are being sprayed everyday here in some parts of the UK, had very few sunny days all summer, it's rained almost everyday for over 2 months our local potato crops have failed, and some of the wheat and corn looks like it may too.

This is another purpose of chemtrails.

[hagbard_celine]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8713/picture239qf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8526/picture240kd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6360/picture241jl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9777/picture242lt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There has been some very heavy chemtrail seeding over Oxfordshire today, some of the worst I’ve ever seen. As you can see from the photos we experienced multiple overhead trails of varying thickness and density running mostly southeast to northeast with a couple of east-west trails too. They were deposited in a very precisely-bordered area to the southeast of the city of Oxford in a grid pattern overlaid with diagonals. The deposit began at about 2PM and a patch of milky haze soon covered the previously blue sky. The haze came in from the southeast which could mean that some more seeding operations were carried out over the horizon in that direction (Let me know if you were there and saw any!). Beside the chemtrails I saw some odd plaited-shaped clouds, sitting on their own in the middle of the sky (Second photo down, but by the time I got my camera they had been joined by natural clouds). This phenomenon was accompanied by unusual aircraft activity. I was two EH101 helicopters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_EH101) flying low over the city centre and a pair of vintage fighters: Spitfires of Hurricanes. There are only two air-shows in progress today, at Newark, Nottinghamshire and Kemble, Gloucestershire; none of the aircraft I saw were heading in the right direction for either of them.

[marpat]

According to Watt

They would like to chip us all for total control but they don't need to do that to control/affect us-HAARP along with chemtrails-the metalic particles we breath in from the spraying makes us like a walking receiver, the particles are in the air which acts as a conducter/carrier which latches onto us creating a circuit to the particles inside our bodys, they can track us and affect our thoughts, moods, health.

Apparantly one of the Elites (can't remember the name) said in one of their writings years ago, that once HAARP/chemtrails are set up nuclear weapons will be obsolete as a form of fear/control

The cold war was a farce just used as fear and propaganda, the soviet system and the capitalist were a creation of the Elite and much of the money really went into research and funding for silent weapons HAARP etc.



This is what I've noticed in my locality recently

We are being sprayed everyday here in some parts of the UK, had very few sunny days all summer, it's rained almost everyday for over 2 months our local potato crops have failed, and some of the wheat and corn looks like it may too.

This is another purpose of chemtrails.

Not trying to be difficult but if these metallic particles are being sprayed and breathed in by us then there must be physical evidence absolutely everywhere. Apart from what is shown in some youtube vids has anybody actually made an effort to collect such stuff? what I might do myself is to leave a container outside for a couple of weeks and then see if I can get the contents analysed. I would have to say that if there was nothing within a few weeks then I would have to say the idea of such widespread spraying is false.

[bicycle]

Its all good and well people bitching and moaning about chemtrails, but if thats all people are doing then they will just keep spraying unchallanged!:rolleyes:

[chattanova]

http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/9/15/f_DSC00589m_ec1839d.jpg

Bergen, Norway
Close by 'twin chemmies' ,they hanged around for about 4 hours.

[antinwo]

Not trying to be difficult but if these metallic particles are being sprayed and breathed in by us then there must be physical evidence absolutely everywhere. Apart from what is shown in some youtube vids has anybody actually made an effort to collect such stuff? what I might do myself is to leave a container outside for a couple of weeks and then see if I can get the contents analysed. I would have to say that if there was nothing within a few weeks then I would have to say the idea of such widespread spraying is false.


Do it then and let us know your results;)

[hagbard_celine]

Someone told me that the strange cloud in the second photo down in my last post is a Sylph!:):cool::eek:

[tootrue]

Not a single chemtrail, in the sky here, today
Lovely blue skies :)

Thanks guys (whoever you are), for allowing us to enjoy a blue sky, again!

[steevo]

Not a single chemtrail, in the sky here, today
Lovely blue skies :)

Thanks guys (whoever you are), for allowing us to enjoy a blue sky, again!

The weather on tv said that it's gonna be totally clear blue skies today and they were bang on right. There is not one chem-trail or con-trail and not even any jet airliners so far today (except for a couple and there were no trails). There is usually loads of planes going over here at a great height. Evidence that when there are no planes, there are no clouds (execpt for natural ones.

[hagbard_celine]

Not a single chemtrail, in the sky here, today
Lovely blue skies :)

Thanks guys (whoever you are), for allowing us to enjoy a blue sky, again!


Yeah, thanks, Sylphs or whoever you are.

Funnily enough the day after I took the above photoes we had a clear blue sky. There were far fewer aircraft too, more like normal traffic.:confused:

[antinwo]

You lucky things there hasn't been clear blue skies in Teesside today:(

[kweli]

The weather on tv said that it's gonna be totally clear blue skies today and they were bang on right. There is not one chem-trail or con-trail and not even any jet airliners so far today (except for a couple and there were no trails). There is usually loads of planes going over here at a great height. Evidence that when there are no planes, there are no clouds (execpt for natural ones.


Yup! been the same around here today too..

I always rejoice in seeing clear blue skies, made me feel happy today, all nostalgic like.

[dark skies]

its been lovely all day here today and usually theres lots of planes being on the flightpath for Birmingham airport

was so glad to see a nice blue sky that I took the speakers from my hifi in the garden and played ELO "Mr Blue Sky" at full volume :D

[brainfreeze]

Lovely day here today too.

Last weekend I took this pic, which got me looking more closely at chemtrails. Is it just me or is it when you zoom in on the "plane" leaving this trail they are of the same consistancy? It's like an invisible plane making it.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn26/naughtymrssmith/chemtrail/IMG_1064.jpg

[qasrose]

These were taken on Thursday

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/100_1773.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/100_1772.jpg

This one was taken tonight, quite a few but this was the best shot

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/100_1842.jpg

[howie]

Yesterday afternoon

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8177/trail1mr6.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8393/trail6wa1.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1305/trail5oo4.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1074/trail4se2.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7168/trail3cr3.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4589/trail2ta0.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8567/trailsdo2.jpg

[steevo]

Great pics Howie. Thanks for posting. Just out of interest, were they chemtrails or contrails coming from those planes ? I'm just trying to work out if they use either military planes or civillian planes (or both) to do the spraying. Or do they use military planes disguised as civillian planes. Anyway, we need MORE close up pics like those ones that you have done Howie.

[them]

Yesterday evening in Gloucestershire

http://xs131.xs.to/xs131/08390/sunset2_013730.jpg

[marpat]

According to Watt

They would like to chip us all for total control but they don't need to do that to control/affect us-HAARP along with chemtrails-the metalic particles we breath in from the spraying makes us like a walking receiver, the particles are in the air which acts as a conducter/carrier which latches onto us creating a circuit to the particles inside our bodys, they can track us and affect our thoughts, moods, health.

Apparantly one of the Elites (can't remember the name) said in one of their writings years ago, that once HAARP/chemtrails are set up nuclear weapons will be obsolete as a form of fear/control

The cold war was a farce just used as fear and propaganda, the soviet system and the capitalist were a creation of the Elite and much of the money really went into research and funding for silent weapons HAARP etc.



This is what I've noticed in my locality recently

We are being sprayed everyday here in some parts of the UK, had very few sunny days all summer, it's rained almost everyday for over 2 months our local potato crops have failed, and some of the wheat and corn looks like it may too.

This is another purpose of chemtrails.


I dont think this HAARP theory would work. In order to make a circuit you need continuity. A few particles in the air and the body would not form a continuous circuit. It is true that electricity can jump gaps but for such a thing to occur requires enourmous power, and if this was used on people it would more than likely kill them.

Also, why turn us into a receiver? a radio signal needs to be demodulated in order to take the information from the carrier frequency. The human body is not equiped for that.

If this theory is true then your body must be full of metallica particles.

I would like to see how Watt actually explains this theory because what you stated is crap.

[howie]

were they chemtrails or contrails coming from those planes ?

The plane in the 2nd photo left a long trail which evaporated within a few seconds & I thought contrail but the middle section of the trail stayed there for about half an hour. Another plane flew close to it & left no trails.

[wazaaap]

5.30pm


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/Phoenixpua/chem/100_1265.jpg


then to this at 6pm!


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/Phoenixpua/chem/100_1266.jpg


This is a picture from south west london!

[steevo]

You have it really bad there wazaaap. It's a bloody CRIME :mad:

[pheony]

5.30pm


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/Phoenixpua/chem/100_1265.jpg


then to this at 6pm!


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/Phoenixpua/chem/100_1266.jpg


This is a picture from south west london!
Yes , thats exactly what im seeing out of my window right now. What a bloody mess:mad:

[pheony]

Yes , thats exactly what im seeing out of my window right now. What a bloody mess:mad:

Two of them are massive.

[steevo]

Yes , thats exactly what im seeing out of my window right now.

Me too :mad:

[wazaaap]

Two of them are massive.

They have turned into light clouds now though - these ones were created by high altitude arecraft and as you can see the chemtrails are really low now - i used binoculers to see the plane but no tell tale signs - they are to high.

strange thing is some of them dont leave this mess - i sugest this is contrails.

it is beond belife that others cant see this, my Girlfriend has just woke up after over one month because of these photos, she is concerned also.

[pheony]

They have turned into light clouds now though - these ones were created by high altitude arecraft and as you can see the chemtrails are really low now - i used binoculers to see the plane but no tell tale signs - they are to high.

strange thing is some of them dont leave this mess - i sugest this is contrails.

it is beond belife that others cant see this, my Girlfriend has just woke up after over one month because of these photos, she is concerned also.

Your right some of them dont leave any mess, the contrails are thin spread a little bit but then disappear.

The Chemtrails stay for hours and spread out on a grand scale.

[tootrue]

You have it really bad there wazaaap. It's a bloody CRIME :mad:

it was the same here today! I've just watched one, of these invisible plains - its chemmie must be going for miles and miles, back!

So - clear skies, over the UK, on Thursday, but they didn't spare the US! I wonder what the reason is, for this!

[Mo0n5tar]

been loads here today and this whole wkend.

[joefx]

Saw these this afternoon (Leeds). Was a bit shocked because it had been a really clear day then suddenly a 'giant cross' appears in the sky (pic 1 and 2) with another straight line to the left of it (pic 3). After about 20 minutes or so the sky was just coated with this strange thin-cloud (pic 4)...

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6081/twouo2.th.png (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twouo2.png)http://img510.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9282/onehy6.th.png (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onehy6.png)http://img88.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8602/threeld9.th.png (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=threeld9.png)http://img91.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1029/fourpm9.th.png (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fourpm9.png)http://img220.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[klinker]

Yesterday was a heavy spraying day in my area thirty miles west of London. I was outside all day at a gig. Forgot my camera.

[tootrue]

Yesterday was a heavy spraying day in my area thirty miles west of London. I was outside all day at a gig. Forgot my camera.

You went to a gig, and forgot your cam?

[klinker]

You went to a gig, and forgot your cam?

Deliberately forgot. ;) I took over 300 pics recently whilst on holiday and get a bit lazy now and then.

[tootrue]

Deliberately forgot. ;) I took over 300 pics recently whilst on holiday and get a bit lazy now and then.

I recently went on a holiday and took some chemtrail pics, but never got round on how to post them :o :)

[klinker]

Hmmm normal air traffic my arse. Pic taken outside my house.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/today.jpg

[klinker]

It is a rare thing for me to have the opportunity to take pics of chemtrails from a plane so here are a few from my recent trip.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_0687.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_0688.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_0689.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_0690.jpg

[lookfar]

Hmmm normal air traffic my arse. Pic taken outside my house.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/today.jpg

Shit, that was a very heavy spray you had there klinker, not good at all!!:mad:

Thanks for sharing your plane pics too, it's sneaky what they get upto above the clouds isn't it! Did you fly within the UK? I've got some to upload from my phone as well which I'll get around to soon...

[klinker]

Shit, that was a very heavy spray you had there klinker, not good at all!!:mad:

Thanks for sharing your plane pics too, it's sneaky what they get upto above the clouds isn't it! Did you fly within the UK? I've got some to upload from my phone as well which I'll get around to soon...

Hi Looky. We were around 35,000 feet when I took the pics and we would have been over France at this point.

[antinwo]

Hmmm normal air traffic my arse. Pic taken outside my house.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/today.jpg


OMG that is the worst pic of heavy spraying I have seen. And yet the CAA still tries to convince me it is just water crystals:rolleyes:

[anthony65]

OMG that is the worst pic of heavy spraying I have seen. And yet the CAA still tries to convince me it is just water crystals:rolleyes:

And they never acknowledge the impact of the "contrails" in the weather reports. The picture above clearly shows that this should have been a beautiful blue sky day, but instead these shitty chemtrails stick, spread and finally mask out the blue sky. And what do the weather "experts" say...

"A mix of sun and clouds". "It will start off sunny but cloud over later in the day...", It will start off sunny, but mist over... Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit...

** Would one of the resident chemtrail skeptics care to comment on this? :rolleyes:

If you don't see the chemtrails, you don't see the truth...

[antinwo]

And they never acknowledge the impact of the "contrails" in the weather reports. The picture above clearly shows that this should have been a beautiful blue sky day, but instead these shitty chemtrails stick, spread and finally mask out the blue sky. And what do the weather "experts" say...

"A mix of sun and clouds". "It will start off sunny but cloud over later in the day...", It will start off sunny, but mist over... Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit...

** Would one of the resident chemtrail skeptics care to comment on this? :rolleyes:

If you don't see the chemtrails, you don't see the truth...

It is awful how lung cancer rates have rocketed since the chemtrailing started. This whole thing makes me mad that I have to watch myself and my family being sprayed on a daily basis:mad:

[klinker]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/DSCF0217.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/rip.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_9307.jpg

[antinwo]

Just thought I would add some more pictures from the other day in Teesside

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0105-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0099-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0104.jpg

[anthony65]

Worth mentioning, because it was cloudy this morning and the weather forecasters were telling us that it would be bleak and miserable for the whole day. There planes up there, either with "candle trails" short and white, or zero trails.

** Last year I had been out on an orgonite gifting trip; very successful. A big portion of fake cloud cleared up while I was underway.

Anyway, the regional radio weatherman was in town and I listened as he droned on to some old people about the weather. He showed us his snazzy technology, including satellite pictures of the weather patterns ofver western Europe. My attention was drawn to a single white line, running over central France, from west to east, several hundred km long and god knows how thick for it to show up on the satellite photo. I said that this couldn't be a natural cloud, and he replied with a straight face that this was an aircraft contrail. I then mentioned weather modification, HAARP, etc and he laughed and said that he didn't believe such things were possible. I asked whether he didn't have any professional interest or moral responsibility to find out more. He laughed again and said no. The old people were just standing there like zombies: it was strange. A nice girl in the weathermobile did look as if she was typing in the key words I mentioned: HAARP, geoengineering, chemtrails, etc...

She was cute :)

[wazaaap]

i have started a social networking site about chemtrails, im looking for someone to help me get it ready for the public, anyone wanna volunteer?

Just need some blog posts written etc...

[hagbard_celine]

Yeah, thanks, Sylphs or whoever you are.

Funnily enough the day after I took the above photoes we had a clear blue sky. There were far fewer aircraft too, more like normal traffic.:confused:

It's been the same ever since. There have been a few aircraft, but not half as many.

[antinwo]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/DSCF0217.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/rip.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/Boff_album/chems/IMG_9307.jpg


Just look at those lovely blue skies being ruined by chemtrails:eek:

[tootrue]

Hi Looky. We were around 35,000 feet when I took the pics and we would have been over France at this point.

Well, I've read someone say these guys take off from Brittany!

[qasrose]

It's Getting fucking worse over here, and I'm sure it feels like there is a different pattern to these than before.

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v362/155/115/685322505/n685322505_1420338_3775.jpg

http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1420340&id=685322505

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v362/155/115/685322505/n685322505_1420340_4968.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v362/155/115/685322505/n685322505_1420349_3675.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v362/155/115/685322505/n685322505_1420350_4307.jpg

[antinwo]

Thanks for pics. What do you people think is the reason for the chemtrailing?

[qasrose]

Thanks for pics. What do you people think is the reason for the chemtrailing?

I suggest you do your own research on Chemtrails mate......

Weather Modification, Making us Sick. and used for other top secret stuff.

[largejack]

I suggest you do your own research on Chemtrails mate......

Weather Modification, Making us Sick. and used for other top secret stuff.

Weather modification maybe?:confused:

[antinwo]

I have done plenty of research mate. By asking the question I wanted to know what peeps thoughts were on the whole chemtrailing issue. I personally think it is about dumbing us down and causing all sorts of illnesses I do hope I am wrong however but my consciousness tells me otherwise:(

[qasrose]

I have done plenty of research mate. By asking the question I wanted to know what peeps thoughts were on the whole chemtrailing issue. I personally think it is about dumbing us down and causing all sorts of illnesses I do hope I am wrong however but my consciousness tells me otherwise:(


Sorry wasn't having a go at you or anything dude, just thought you where one of those skeptics or something :D.

I agree with you there though about the illnesses and shit, something needs to be done about it all.

Weather modification maybe?:confused:

I think I was being dull on that last comment I made LOL

[antinwo]

[QUOTE=qasrose;538145]Sorry wasn't having a go at you or anything dude, just thought you where one of those skeptics or something :D.

I agree with you there though about the illnesses and shit, something needs to be done about it all.


No worries mate, you will find me the least skeptical when it comes to the chemtrailing issue. I am going to get some flyers out to hopefully make people aware of them. Problem is where I live in the UK people are so dumbed down they are practically asleep so it is hard to wake them up, must be all the spraying:D

[qasrose]

[QUOTE=qasrose;538145]Sorry wasn't having a go at you or anything dude, just thought you where one of those skeptics or something :D.

I agree with you there though about the illnesses and shit, something needs to be done about it all.


No worries mate, you will find me the least skeptical when it comes to the chemtrailing issue. I am going to get some flyers out to hopefully make people aware of them. Problem is where I live in the UK people are so dumbed down they are practically asleep so it is hard to wake them up, must be all the spraying:D

I always wondered about spray painting the window of our local royal air force recruitment center. with the words "STOP, LOOK UP"

[mr_pixie]

I took these the other day!

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140005.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140002.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140003.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140006.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140002.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140004.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140008.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140009.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/Lizardhunter/P1140007.jpg

[realfake]

Here's a nighttime trail i spotted a couple of weeks back. This was clearly visible in the moonlight, but the picture didn't turn out so great.
http://usera.ImageCave.com/realfake/19092008s.jpg

[lookfar]

Hi realflake & welcome to the forum:)

Thanks for sharing your nighttime pic.

[anthony65]

In YouTube search for Chemtrails UFos or Cemtrails Orbs and you'll see amazing stuff being uploaded almost every day. Some of the Infrared shots are very good!

Here's a great example! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A6xx3yyPJU

[Mo0n5tar]

Tuesday 7 October 2008

Dear _____________,

I am writing to express my concern at the recent influx in aeroplane
exhaust fumes visible in the skies of _________, where I live, and across
__________ (the county, state, country whatever) in general.

It has come to my attention that there are many, many trails a day,
some lingering in the sky for hours, on a sunny day I have seen trails
criss-crossed in the sky disperse to form cloud cover where there was
no cloud before, I have seen the trails and exhaust fumes of planes
cover the sky, forming grey and black trails in the sky, this is
frequent above areas of constant traffic, where the Vehicle emissions
are rising into the atmosphere, I have serious doubts about the
benefits of this to the health of the people of West Sussex.

Granted there are some days when many planes fly by and don’t leave a
lingering trail, when the vapour disappears after a few minutes, I wish
everyday was like that but at least once a week the day begins with
lines criss-crossed through the sky, developing into clouds by around
midday.

Beside the obvious distasteful visual effect of this I am worried there
may be a more prolonged detrimental effect to the respiratory system,
if vapour is lingering in the sky what chemicals are lingering within
it, and what pollutants are constituting the atmosphere and being
breathed in..

I just wanted to bring this to your attention and I wonder if there is
currently any research under way as to whether these trails are
“Contrails”, which to my understanding are water vapour trails, hence
why they disperse so quickly, or whether there is something more to
them, perhaps excess emissions, dumping, cloud seeding technology?

On warm days of prolonged trail making it is not uncommon to see people
come down with headaches, sore throats and tight chests, granted this
may be coincidental due to allergies or hay fever, but overall the
Aircraft emissions visibly lingering in the sky above us can not be
having a great effect on our already dirty air.

I have much photographic evidence to support this letter of concern, if
you are at all interested in viewing some of the photos then let me
know in your response.

Yours sincerely,

____________

I wanna know what they have to say, sent it to my local mp and councillor, sending one now to home secretary.

I feel I have come from a decent angle, and have a great amount of photographic and circumstantial evidence to support my concerns.

Does anyone else have anything in common with my story above, have you noticed the fake clouds going grey and darker over areas of frequent driving?

[anthony65]

My sister told me that her plumber brought up the topic of chemtrails. She'd heard about them from me...

Plumbers are waking up! :D

[hagbard_celine]

Hi Looky. We were around 35,000 feet when I took the pics and we would have been over France at this point.

And the chemtails in the pics still look considerably higher than you!:eek: What altitude do the chemtrail planes fly at!

[Mo0n5tar]

Tuesday 7 October 2008

Dear _____________,

I am writing to express my concern at the recent influx in aeroplane
exhaust fumes visible in the skies of _________, where I live, and across
__________ (the county, state, country whatever) in general.

It has come to my attention that there are many, many trails a day,
some lingering in the sky for hours, on a sunny day I have seen trails
criss-crossed in the sky disperse to form cloud cover where there was
no cloud before, I have seen the trails and exhaust fumes of planes
cover the sky, forming grey and black trails in the sky, this is
frequent above areas of constant traffic, where the Vehicle emissions
are rising into the atmosphere, I have serious doubts about the
benefits of this to the health of the people of West Sussex.

Granted there are some days when many planes fly by and don’t leave a
lingering trail, when the vapour disappears after a few minutes, I wish
everyday was like that but at least once a week the day begins with
lines criss-crossed through the sky, developing into clouds by around
midday.

Beside the obvious distasteful visual effect of this I am worried there
may be a more prolonged detrimental effect to the respiratory system,
if vapour is lingering in the sky what chemicals are lingering within
it, and what pollutants are constituting the atmosphere and being
breathed in..

I just wanted to bring this to your attention and I wonder if there is
currently any research under way as to whether these trails are
“Contrails”, which to my understanding are water vapour trails, hence
why they disperse so quickly, or whether there is something more to
them, perhaps excess emissions, dumping, cloud seeding technology?

On warm days of prolonged trail making it is not uncommon to see people
come down with headaches, sore throats and tight chests, granted this
may be coincidental due to allergies or hay fever, but overall the
Aircraft emissions visibly lingering in the sky above us can not be
having a great effect on our already dirty air.

I have much photographic evidence to support this letter of concern, if
you are at all interested in viewing some of the photos then let me
know in your response.

Yours sincerely,

____________

I wanna know what they have to say, sent it to my local mp and councillor, sending one now to home secretary.

I feel I have come from a decent angle, and have a great amount of photographic and circumstantial evidence to support my concerns.

Does anyone else have anything in common with my story above, have you noticed the fake clouds going grey and darker over areas of frequent driving?

They totallly skirted round the issue of chemtrails and lingering trails not mentioning the differances, plus i was contacted by the local mp's secretary not him himself!

Dear Mr Johnstone
Thank you for your e-mail expressing your concern about aeroplane
exhaust fumes. We will immediately take this up with the Managing
Director of Gatwick airport and, as soon as we have a response, we will
let you know.
Yours sincerely

Although i did go from the aircraft pollution angle, I think I made it very clear there is an obvious difference between regular contrails and the shite i see in the sky most days, so I shall write number two letter mentioning the word CHEMTRAILS and see how they respond then.

[lord rothlizard]

Beutiful blue sky over London as I awoke early this morning...By 08:30 plenty of chemtrails, more than usual. :(

[hitithard]

Hello all,
Just thought i would add something to this post,

I was in Cambridge today, there was lots of chemtrails,

http://i35.tinypic.com/53kd3c.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/sv7800.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/dzy0w0.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/214xykl.jpg

The sky seemed to get more hazey throughout the day,

Hitit,

[hitithard]

.

[lord rothlizard]

Chemtrails galore over London today. Blatantly spraying all day long.

[brainfreeze]

They have been spraying and are still spraying over Havering. Our blue skies are being smudge to milky white again! :mad:

[hitithard]

cambridge didn't seem so bad today. Lovely clear sky late this afternoon to evening,,

[hagbard_celine]

Hello all,
Just thought i would add something to this post,

I was in Cambridge today, there was lots of chemtrails,


http://i37.tinypic.com/214xykl.jpg

The sky seemed to get more hazey throughout the day,

Hitit,

It looks like the sylphs might be at work there, dissolving the chemtrails. Thanks, Sylphs!:cool:

[chattanova]

Cylindrical UFO Behind Chemtrail, Trentino, -Italy
A mysterious object has been photographed over Wakes Chemtries. The UFO was sighted from dell' USAC. The photograph was sent by Sebastiano Di Gennaro of the Center Ufologico USAC. We send our appreciation for their work.

The email stated that the unknown, cylindrical object was photographed on 10-08-08 at Ciampedie di Val di Fassa, in the Trentino. The photographer was attempting to take a photograph of the sun. There were chemtrails from various aircraft at the time.

The photographer did not see the cylindrical object at the time he took his photograph. It was discovered later when reviewing all of his pictures. Several different filters were applied to the original photograph, and there is no doubt that the cylindrical UFO was a solid object. Sebastiano sent us his greetings.

Thanks to the reader from Italy who sent us the link to the story, and photograph.

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/10/15/f_trentino100m_4444db9.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/3/10/15/f_trentino100m_bf3b48f.jpg

source and references:

http://www.segnidalcielo.it/Foto_UFO_sciechimiche.html

Centro Ufologico USAC - www.usac.it

Submitted to UFO Casebook

[w1nstonsm1th84]

They have been spraying and are still spraying over Havering. Our blue skies are being smudge to milky white again! :mad:

Yep, that's what happens... yet people choose to pretend otherwise. :rolleyes:

[marpat]

Cylindrical UFO Behind Chemtrail, Trentino, -Italy


You mean an airship

[hagbard_celine]

You mean an airship

Looks more like a disc seen from the side.

People reckoned the Ray Bowyer sighting was an airship, but it can't have been.

[marpat]

Looks more like a disc seen from the side.

People reckoned the Ray Bowyer sighting was an airship, but it can't have been.

How not?

A disc seen from the side can still look cylindrical depending on the thickness of the disc.

The problem with that picture is the cloud cover. Because the object is obscured you cannot really get a good look at what it is. This makes it easy to jump to a conclusion, which will generally be what the seer wants to believe.

[lookfar]

Not sure what it's like with the rest of you guys today, but we're getting chemmied to hell down south today, b*stards!!:mad: It started off quite cloudy & then cleared up but they've been going crazy all morning so far & some of them are HUGE!:eek: Will try to get some pics but it's a bit manic at work atm...

[steevo]

Not sure what it's like with the rest of you guys today, but we're getting chemmied to hell down south today, b*stards!!:mad: It started off quite cloudy & then cleared up but they've been going crazy all morning so far & some of them are HUGE!:eek: Will try to get some pics but it's a bit manic at work atm...

Hi Lookfar, there are hardly any chemtrails up North today. It's about 50% clouds and 50% blue sky up here today.
Maybe they are concentrating on the south today for some reason.
I have noticed that they are extending Stansted Airport in a big way and other airports too, according to the "news". The economy is failing yet they expect us to be flying MORE ? :confused: :cool: Maybe they are preparing for something else.

[lookfar]

Hi Lookfar, there are hardly any chemtrails up North today. It's about 50% clouds and 50% blue sky up here today.
Maybe they are concentrating on the south today for some reason.
I have noticed that they are extending Stansted Airport in a big way and other airports too, according to the "news". The economy is failing yet they expect us to be flying MORE ? :confused: :cool: Maybe they are preparing for something else.

Hi steevo. I'm glad you're not getting sprayed up there today:) We've not had it this bad for ages down here, although it has been pretty cloudy on & off so you can't see what they're upto then:rolleyes:

Wasn't aware about the Stansted extension, but what with the flight surcharges going up, I seriously doubt more people will be flying tbh. The cost of flights has gone down & you think you're getting a bargain, but then they hit you with the surcharges & it's easily treble what the cost of the flight it alot of the time, it's shocking!:rolleyes: So yeah, perhaps they are preparing for something else...

[truthseeker1980]

They weren't spraying at 11:00 this morning in North London.

There were REAL contrails being left all morning, dispersing a few feet behind the plane but at around 12 noon they started spraying, there are few spraying as i write and also one REAL contrail, still not as bad as it has been which is good.

[anthony65]

Hi Lookfar, there are hardly any chemtrails up North today. It's about 50% clouds and 50% blue sky up here today.
Maybe they are concentrating on the south today for some reason.
I have noticed that they are extending Stansted Airport in a big way and other airports too, according to the "news". The economy is failing yet they expect us to be flying MORE ? :confused: :cool: Maybe they are preparing for something else.

Airstrip One comes to mind... :(

[truthseeker1980]

A strange day for chemtrails in north London today, this morning all planes were leaving the real CONTRAILS, after 12 until about 4pm they were spraying chemtrails and now all planes are leaving the normal CONTRAILS.

Very odd! :confused:

[marpat]

Can anybody hazard a guess at the height of the contrails compared to persistent contrails?

[antinwo]

In the North East all day we had lovely blue skies and not a chemtrail in sight until early evening then the sky was full of them again:mad: They cannot go a full day round here without spraying:mad:

[hagbard_celine]

How not?



Bowyer said the object was about a mile long. The world's biggest airship, the Hindenberg was only 805 feet long, not to mention the trifling matter of it having crashed over 70 yerars ago!:D Modern airships are much smaller. Wouldn't the Bowyer have recognized an airship when he saw one? He's a pilot and so will have good visual intelligence. Also why didn't air traffic control just tell him: "It's OK, that's just an airship".

[hagbard_celine]

The problem with that picture is the cloud cover. Because the object is obscured you cannot really get a good look at what it is. This makes it easy to jump to a conclusion, which will generally be what the seer wants to believe.

And that's why it's jumping the gun to say this:

You mean an airship

It might not be an airship.

[lightgiver]

And that's why it's jumping the gun to say this:



It might not be an airship.

Hello hagbard,check out this link it is mind blowing:eek:
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

tell me what you think or anyone come to that;)

[beldazar]

wow lightgiver, some link you have put on there!!! Bloody shocking seeing them altogether

Has our resident chemtrail denier Marpat paid it a visit?

And if so Marpat, what do you think???

[Mo0n5tar]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/mickyjay/16thOctober1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/mickyjay/16thOctober2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/mickyjay/16thOctober.jpg

[marpat]

Bowyer said the object was about a mile long. The world's biggest airship, the Hindenberg was only 805 feet long, not to mention the trifling matter of it having crashed over 70 yerars ago!:D Modern airships are much smaller. Wouldn't the Bowyer have recognized an airship when he saw one? He's a pilot and so will have good visual intelligence. Also why didn't air traffic control just tell him: "It's OK, that's just an airship".


So we are dependent on his judgement of how big he thinks it is. Well that presents a problem straight away.

Judging distance and size with the naked eye is not an exact science as I am fully aware. people can make gross errors of judgement using eyes alone. True that experience counts but many factors effect such an observation such as viewed angle, light conditions, size of surrounding objects, etc.

Maybe the air traffic overlooked this, or maybe they did report it but he has just not bothered to mention it. I cannot take the word of somebody just like that.

[marpat]

And that's why it's jumping the gun to say this:



It might not be an airship.

But it might be. Or it could be a fake pic or anything. Poor observation makes poor judgements.

[Mo0n5tar]

Wow this website is great thanks lightgiver:
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

[iitokio]

Here's a nighttime trail i spotted a couple of weeks back. This was clearly visible in the moonlight, but the picture didn't turn out so great.
http://usera.ImageCave.com/realfake/19092008s.jpg

Last Night I looked out the window from the back of my house, on a clear moon-lit night, and was shocked to see an absurd amount of trails in the sky. They were being illuminated by the moonlight, and there was a good 10 of them, huge chuncky ones too. But the strangest thing was that they all seemed to come from the same point...as if a formation had split like when you see stunt jets. Also i did not hear a single plane all that evening and i live very close to 2 large US airbases here on the Norfolk/Suffolk border. The trails were pretty low too.
I have never seen chemtrail activity that intense in my life, not even in pictures on this forum :/

[hagbard_celine]

Hello hagbard,check out this link it is mind blowing:eek:
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

tell me what you think or anyone come to that;)


That's the first time I've seen that David Dees pic. Very good. Those chemtrail pics are very telling. Look at how regular the lines are!:eek:

[hagbard_celine]

So we are dependent on his judgement of how big he thinks it is. Well that presents a problem straight away.

Judging distance and size with the naked eye is not an exact science as I am fully aware. people can make gross errors of judgement using eyes alone. True that experience counts but many factors effect such an observation such as viewed angle, light conditions, size of surrounding objects, etc.

Maybe the air traffic overlooked this, or maybe they did report it but he has just not bothered to mention it. I cannot take the word of somebody just like that.

I'll try to find a thread on this topic and reply there.

[realfake]

Last Night I looked out the window from the back of my house, on a clear moon-lit night, and was shocked to see an absurd amount of trails in the sky. They were being illuminated by the moonlight, and there was a good 10 of them, huge chuncky ones too. But the strangest thing was that they all seemed to come from the same point...as if a formation had split like when you see stunt jets. Also i did not hear a single plane all that evening and i live very close to 2 large US airbases here on the Norfolk/Suffolk border. The trails were pretty low too.
I have never seen chemtrail activity that intense in my life, not even in pictures on this forum :/ I hadn't seen any night spraying with my own eyes until recently. I was leaning towards these activities having something to do with reducing the amount of sunlight reaching the surface, but my latest observations suggest otherwise.. :o

[steevo]

Here's a nighttime trail i spotted a couple of weeks back. This was clearly visible in the moonlight, but the picture didn't turn out so great.
http://usera.ImageCave.com/realfake/19092008s.jpg

Thanks for posting that. I can see the chemtrail in there. I have see a similar thing next to the moon on a clear night. I am wondering if we can only see chemtails with the naked eye at night IF they are near to the moon :confused:

[qasrose]

This Morning 20th October 2008

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00035.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00036.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00037.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00038.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00040.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00041.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/chemtrials/monday%20shit/DSC00042.jpg

[john connor]

As I'm a new poster forgive me if this has been suggested before.

IMO Chemtrails could be THE best way of allerting the mass's that somthing is very wrong with the world, most people walk around with their Ipods in their ears, mobiles in hand like extras from Dawn of the Dead. For the last few months I have noticed a big increase in the ammount of spraying and have taken pictures at least 3 days a week. Yes we know about the Credit crunch and WHO is behind it but this Chemtrail shit makes me so angry, it;s SO BLATENT. There is one site Chemtrails UK has 160 members, 160!!! After looking at the horrific pictures on
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

and reading references to Rense, is their any reason their cannot be a unified front from all such sites and other truth seeking sites? to really force this issue into the MSM, there are lots of theories BUT who knows how much time we really have, this could be a golden opportunity to 'Wake people up'. I work for local government and this has even managed to wake up half my department, who are now questioning the other things I have told them.

Everyone here cares about the truth otherwise we wouldn't be here, it really does tho IMO need ONE central site for this purpous and to force this into everyone's faces.

I used to be a professional bassist in a metal band and still have a lot of contacts in the rock press worldwide, maybe I could get them to do featues, it would reach a lot of people but it needs a Unified front to back it up.

I want to help make a difference, I have kids and dont want them breathing this shit any longer than they have to.

Any mods who want to answer this or maybe move it, feel welcome but IMO we have to act NOW.

[lightgiver]

As I'm a new poster forgive me if this has been suggested before.

IMO Chemtrails could be THE best way of allerting the mass's that somthing is very wrong with the world, most people walk around with their Ipods in their ears, mobiles in hand like extras from Dawn of the Dead. For the last few months I have noticed a big increase in the ammount of spraying and have taken pictures at least 3 days a week. Yes we know about the Credit crunch and WHO is behind it but this Chemtrail shit makes me so angry, it;s SO BLATENT. There is one site Chemtrails UK has 160 members, 160!!! After looking at the horrific pictures on
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

and reading references to Rense, is their any reason their cannot be a unified front from all such sites and other truth seeking sites? to really force this issue into the MSM, there are lots of theories BUT who knows how much time we really have, this could be a golden opportunity to 'Wake people up'. I work for local government and this has even managed to wake up half my department, who are now questioning the other things I have told them.

Everyone here cares about the truth otherwise we wouldn't be here, it really does tho IMO need ONE central site for this purpous and to force this into everyone's faces.

I used to be a professional bassist in a metal band and still have a lot of contacts in the rock press worldwide, maybe I could get them to do featues, it would reach a lot of people but it needs a Unified front to back it up.

I want to help make a difference, I have kids and dont want them breathing this shit any longer than they have to.

Any mods who want to answer this or maybe move it, feel welcome but IMO we have to act NOW.

There is a war on our body and mind,and the sheep just do not get it,because they believe the garbage of the Elite runMSM,This is a war and the war as already begun.

[marpat]

As I'm a new poster forgive me if this has been suggested before.

IMO Chemtrails could be THE best way of allerting the mass's that somthing is very wrong with the world, most people walk around with their Ipods in their ears, mobiles in hand like extras from Dawn of the Dead. For the last few months I have noticed a big increase in the ammount of spraying and have taken pictures at least 3 days a week. Yes we know about the Credit crunch and WHO is behind it but this Chemtrail shit makes me so angry, it;s SO BLATENT. There is one site Chemtrails UK has 160 members, 160!!! After looking at the horrific pictures on
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

and reading references to Rense, is their any reason their cannot be a unified front from all such sites and other truth seeking sites? to really force this issue into the MSM, there are lots of theories BUT who knows how much time we really have, this could be a golden opportunity to 'Wake people up'. I work for local government and this has even managed to wake up half my department, who are now questioning the other things I have told them.

Everyone here cares about the truth otherwise we wouldn't be here, it really does tho IMO need ONE central site for this purpous and to force this into everyone's faces.

I used to be a professional bassist in a metal band and still have a lot of contacts in the rock press worldwide, maybe I could get them to do featues, it would reach a lot of people but it needs a Unified front to back it up.

I want to help make a difference, I have kids and dont want them breathing this shit any longer than they have to.

Any mods who want to answer this or maybe move it, feel welcome but IMO we have to act NOW.


Actually such high level spraying is not really efficient for spraying people. To deliver any aerosol against people it would have to be done at low level where there is less chance of dispersal by weather. No good doing it at 30,000ft if the wind will carry it forty miles away.

Rense is a bit misleading. I saw one of his pics where he tries to state that a certain pod on a plane is for chemical spraying then tries to describe what the pod might do. The fact is that it was a refuelling pod and he was just clutching at straws.

I have a family too and we do not suffer poor health due to any aerial spraying. The reality is that I am in better condition than some people 10-20 years younger than myself.

[cobra]

like i know the chemtrails should make ewery aroplene but not ewery eroplane or aroplane company cant afort this becouse too expencive. they use chemtral to fix ozon hole high up in the atmosphere. coreckt me if i am werong.

[disorder2k8]

My theories are that they are hiding the sun because of its increased radiosity, its quite white/bright.

The other suggestions are to hide either a space fleet or large solar body, probably the latter.

[john connor]

My theories are that they are hiding the sun because of its increased radiosity, its quite white/bright.

The other suggestions are to hide either a space fleet or large solar body, probably the latter.


I've wondered about that too, like a huge smokescreen, but it doesnt change the fact of samples that have been anyalized containing all kinds of shit, barium, aluminium, pathogens....you can smell the shit somedays, until enough people decide to get off their ass's and demand some answers ...speculation is all it will be ...until maybe it's too late

[john connor]

like i know the chemtrails should make ewery aroplene but not ewery eroplane or aroplane company cant afort this becouse too expencive. they use chemtral to fix ozon hole high up in the atmosphere. coreckt me if i am werong.


Hi check out this link and then see if you think it is to fix Ozone

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

[cobra]

thanks for link. i will search more abouth this chemtrails.

[marpat]

I've wondered about that too, like a huge smokescreen, but it doesnt change the fact of samples that have been anyalized containing all kinds of shit, barium, aluminium, pathogens....you can smell the shit somedays, until enough people decide to get off their ass's and demand some answers ...speculation is all it will be ...until maybe it's too late


If this is true then how do I not qwalk around with a metallic taste in my mouth on a regular basis?

Barium is actually used in the medical world. People drink the stuff to trace its route through the body.

[beldazar]

Marpat according to you, there arent any where you live :rolleyes:

I have a feeling they are deflecting the sun's rays, M Tsarion reckons that when the galactic alignment happens in or around 2012, photons will be emitted from the sun and may have an effect on our DNA.

I have been watching them closely and they do seem to target the sun. An insider has mentioned that they know only too well that the global warming idea is caused by the sun and so they are blocking some of it out. Either that or the sun's rays react with it somehow. I havent really witnessed an increase in health related illnesses so I dont think its for that purpose but there are many that say it does cause more illnesses.

[marpat]

Marpat according to you, there arent any where you live :rolleyes:

I have a feeling they are deflecting the sun's rays, M Tsarion reckons that when the galactic alignment happens in or around 2012, photons will be emitted from the sun and may have an effect on our DNA.

I have been watching them closely and they do seem to target the sun. An insider has mentioned that they know only too well that the global warming idea is caused by the sun and so they are blocking some of it out. Either that or the sun's rays react with it somehow. I havent really witnessed an increase in health related illnesses so I dont think its for that purpose but there are many that say it does cause more illnesses.

And what if Tsarion is wrong with that theory?

I thought we were on a global cool down according to some scientists.

So who fly these aircraft if they are supposed to target the sun? you dont feel that they just happen to fly through the sky with the sun in the background anyway? do they stop flying when its cloudy or dark?

[marpat]

I think I have worked out what they are doing. I looked out of my window and the garden is just festooned mushrooms that have come out of nowhere.

[beldazar]

Magic mushrooms are they? lol.

I dont think they are spraying us in the same way they spray insecticide on crops as the planes would be a lot lower.


Back to Tsarion, yes, he may be wrong, there are several theories to chemtrails AND 2012 and people have their own ideas. ;)

Do they trail when its cloudy? Well it depends if there is a break in the cloud and then you may see them
They dont fly over every day, but when they do they go for it! There can be as much as a couple of weeks between spraying but they appear to me to go for sunny days.

I have seen them go over at night when the sky is clear which would dismiss the targetting the sun then, who knows? Maybe its the moon too!

I would love to dismiss it Marpat, and dismiss flouride, aspartame, vaccinations and msg etc....if only it werent going on?

All I know is its not right, sometimes the sky is in a real mess! :mad:

[Mo0n5tar]

Check out this bullcrap from another person in the system:
Thank you for your email, forwarded to me by Dr Nigel Dennis.

I have a feeling that the phenomen you write about may have more to do with atmospheric / weather conditions that we've had this summer than an increase in the number of flights per se. However, I cannot pretend any expertise in this area, so I will consult the council's aviation officer and respond to you when I have more information.

Kind regards

Adverse atmospherical conditions eh, is that the cause of the Chemtrails or the effect I wonder?

[lightgiver]

couple of info links,

http://netowne.com/environmental/contrails/willthomas/chemtrails5.htm
http://www.detailshere.com/chemtrails.htm
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Ib9


Weather modification by royal rainmaking technology


Process of rainmaking and moving cloud using ‘Royal Rainmaking Technology’ is described for weather modification by means of chemical seeding comprises steps of “Triggering”, to activate cloud formation; “Fattening”, to promote cloud growth; “Moving”, to move cloud to a designated area, and “Attacking” to initiate rainfall from cloud. Attacking can be done by at least 3 different techniques; by ‘Sandwich Seeding Technique’ for ‘warm cloud’, by ‘Glaciogenic Seeding Technique’ for ‘cool cloud’, or by ‘Super Sandwich Seeding Technique’ for mixed phase cloud. ‘Enhancing’ is for enhancing amount of rainfall and prolonging raining duration including increasing area coverage. Weather modification extends to dispersion of cloud into clear flight path, prevention of hail formation, and inducing rainfall from stratiform clouds onto a valley or any catchment areas. Seeding may be performed inside or outside a cloud or to the top or underneath any isolated cloud or cloud band.

Maybe when they spray at certain levels,some are designed to move further down wind,but when i have noticed when they spray,even on a windy day the trails do not appear to move,but eventually over a few hours,they form clouds.
and whatever goes up as to come down.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2005/0056705.html

http://xiaodongpeople.blogspot.com/2004/08/weather-modification-act.html

[marpat]

Magic mushrooms are they? lol.

I dont think they are spraying us in the same way they spray insecticide on crops as the planes would be a lot lower.


Back to Tsarion, yes, he may be wrong, there are several theories to chemtrails AND 2012 and people have their own ideas. ;)

Do they trail when its cloudy? Well it depends if there is a break in the cloud and then you may see them
They dont fly over every day, but when they do they go for it! There can be as much as a couple of weeks between spraying but they appear to me to go for sunny days.

I have seen them go over at night when the sky is clear which would dismiss the targetting the sun then, who knows? Maybe its the moon too!

I would love to dismiss it Marpat, and dismiss flouride, aspartame, vaccinations and msg etc....if only it werent going on?

All I know is its not right, sometimes the sky is in a real mess! :mad:

Well I never said dismiss everything did I? I just think people need to weigh things up more rather than always choosing the conspiracy version of events every time. I could take a picture of a contrail the minute it was created and post it in here as a chemtrail and people would believe it. What does that tell you?

The sky could be a mess due to the huge increase in aircraft activity. 30 years ago there were less aircraft in the sky so less mess. Look at some WWII pic of bombers over Germany and you will see what look like persistant contrails there, so it is nothing new. Unless you know the full science of how such things are made then you cant really be sure. Going on 'intuition' just really isnt good enough.

[oiram]

STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES YOU ARE NOW BREATHING ETHYLENE DIBROMIDE, NANO-PARTICULATES OF ALUMINUM AND BARIUM AND CATIONIC POLYMER FIBERS WITH UNIDENTIFIED BIOACTIVE MATERIAL: "We the people have not been warned, advised or consulted but are certainly vulnerable to the outcomes." Lightwatcher.com "Biologic components have been reported in airborne samples that include: modified molds, desiccated red blood cells and exotic strains of bacteria" Additionally, award winning investigative reporter, Will Thomas, has reported findings of over 300 types of virally mutated fungi in the chemtrail fall out. The Idaho Observer has reported findings of 26 metals including barium, aluminum and uranium, a variety of infectious pathogens and chemicals and drugs including sedatives in chemtrail fallout. Dr.R. Michael Castle reports the finding of cationic polymer fibers. Others have reported findings of tiny parasitic nematode eggs of some type encased in the fibers. Welcome to the brave new world of toxic barium skies, weather control, mind control and population control through the use of chemtrails modulated with electromagnetic frequencies generated by HAARP. Our health is under attack as evidenced by the skyrocketing rates of chemtrail induced lung cancer, asthma and pulmonary/respiratory problems as well as the emergence of a new plague, Morgellons Disease, an infection with a new and unknown pathogen that is seriously disabling and disfiguring. Over 12,000 families in the U.S. are now infected with Morgellons. I am one of the infected. Our skies are increasingly hazed over with fake barium/ aluminum particulate, ethylene dibromide chemtrail clouds. Whether in the atmosphere or in the Ocean this added particulate matter is a hazard to the health of every living thing on this planet. My health and the health of my family has already been drastically affected. There is a main-stream media blackout on this subject so the only way to get the word out is by word of mouth. People are already dying because of the chemtrails. Life expectancy is down. This situation presents an immediate and serious threat to you, your family and loved ones. We must join together to stop this insane program of chemtrail spraying now. Please do what you can to help.
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies
http://carnicom.com/
Not even the Sheeples would find that there is anything wrong on this Beautiful Earth!
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[oiram]

What are they cooking up again?
Who should we really worry about Terrorists or our trustworthy Governments??????
At least I know who not to trust that's clear!
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http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies10.01.08 - Trudeau Institute and U.S. Navy receive order to continue Pandemic Influenza vaccine development project
Saranac Lake, N.Y., – Dr. David L. Woodland, president and director of the Trudeau Institute, announced today that President Bush has signed into law the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2009 (H.R. 2638), which includes $1.6 million in additional research funding to support a joint program between scientists at the Trudeau Institute and the U.S. Navy to develop a pandemic influenza vaccine. H.R. 2638 includes the Defense Appropriations Bill for Fiscal Year 2009.

United States Congressman, John M. McHugh, helped to secure funding for this important project. President Bush signed the full bill into law on September 30.

So What Were Top Military Commanders From The US and Europe Doing at the Trudeau Institute?
Last Weekend the top military brass from the US and Europe met together in Saranac Lake NY.
So? You may well ask

Interesting article I thought, but my ears really perked up when i was contacted by a member of the David Icke Forum, Lovelitious, who provided the following information.

'Well, on the 1st October 2008 Bush signed into being the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2009 (H.R. 2638), which includes $1.6 million in additional research funding to support a joint program between scientists at the Trudeau Institute and the U.S. Navy to develop a pandemic influenza vaccine.'

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The Trudeau is also located at Saranac Lake NY

The Director of the Trudeau Institute is Ralph Steinman
Ralph M. Steinman is Henry G. Kunkel Professor at The Rockefeller University and a senior physician at The Rockefeller University Hospital, is a cell biologist whose research focuses on the immune system including the human immune system in the setting of several diseases.

On October 1st, the same day that Bush activated the 1st Brigade domestically, the Office of the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services released a disturbing "Declaration Under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act":
Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Secretary
Declaration under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness ActOctober 1, 2008
AGENCY: Office of the Secretary (OS), Department of Health and Human Services
ACTION: Notice.

SUMMARY: Declaration pursuant to section 319F-3 of the Public HealthService Act (42 U.S.C. 247d-6d) to provide targeted liabilityprotections for anthrax countermeasures based on a credible risk thatthe threat of exposure to Bacillus anthracis and the resulting disease constitutes a public health emergency.
http://trudeauinstitute.org/dynamicPages/pressReleases.cfm?action=view&INDENTingID=118&ID=100&navTable=tier2nav
STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES
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http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies
The threat of a bioterrorist attack has been long in the minds of both the European and US leaders and has formed the basis for many a Joint exercise beetween the US and Europe.2002 Bioterrorism exercise in Oklahoma city

NOTE the names SAM NUNN and JAMES R WOOLSEY for future reference

Named ' DARK WINTER'BIO-TERRORISM - COMING SOON TO AMERICA?

It was just a drill, but play-acting of a germ warfare attack this summer showed how many ways the nation (the USA) is not ready.

The enactment went as follows:Patients with a mysterious illness began appearing at Oklahoma City hospitals in early December of 2002, with fever, weakness, malaise, and an aggressive rash which in two or three days developed pus. Except for the other symptoms they could have been severe cases of acne.Soon the small number of initial patients grew to 20; others sprouted across the state as well as in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Most living practicing physicians have never treated a clinical case of this mysterious disease, which fit no current pattern of development, defying differential diagnosis. Days later the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made the diagnosis: smallpox.It is a disease not seen in the United States since 1949…and not in the world since 1980. It is an extinct malady. Its only vestiges are two small cultures held in labs in the United States and Russia. This is certainly an intentional, engineered outbreak of the disease…bioterrorism!
By the end of the month there were projected to be 30,000 cases nationwide.In the weeks before the outbreak, tensions were rising between China and Taiwan. An outbreak of foot and mouth disease on Taiwan was devastating the swine industry; some blamed China. Iraq had begun moving troops toward the Kuwaiti border, claiming its action to be routine exercises.
http://dotconnectoruk.blogspot.com/2008/10/so-what-were-top-military-commanders.html

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HHS PREP Act Declaration
BILLING CODE: 4150-37
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Office of the Secretary
Declaration under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act

October 1, 2008
AGENCY: Office of the Secretary (OS), Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
http://www.hhs.gov/disasters/emergency/manmadedisasters/bioterorism/prepact-081001.html Maybe has something to do with the warning or should I say a slip of the tongue by Colin Powell about 21th Jan. 2009 ?

What are they cooking up again?

Anything in this interview video; any warning signs you can see or hear?
More Colin Powell on Meet the Press 10/19/2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo

Here is the CQ Transcript: Colin Powell on NBC’s “Meet the Press”POWELL: I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.

The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.

And so I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward, and we’re going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet our overseas obligations.

But restoring a sense of purpose, a sense of confidence in the American people and, in the international community, in America.
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[nightferry]

Antony Barnett, public affairs editor
Observer
Sunday April 21, 2002

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4398507,00.html

Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

*snip*

The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW attack.'

Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'


Those interested in Chemtrails often cite the extensive series of UK Cold War Public Area Biological Warfare experiments, conducted by military scientists from the UK Government's Chemical and Biological Warfare research facility at Porton Down, as evidence of a past clandestine Governmental spraying programme (see above article).

As there appears to be some confusion as to the size and number of these experiments, I've complied a list of known Porton Down public area BW experiments which will hopefully clarify matters.It is the end result of 11 years of exhaustive research, and was achieved by the use of: political lobbying; the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information; the UK Freedom of Information Act (which came into force during January 2005); Written Parliamentary Questions; The National Archive (formerly the PRO).

I've posted the list on a thread entitled: [b]Chemtrails-UK Public Area Biowarfare Tests 1949-76 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42401)

It's well worth examining. ;)


nightferry :D

[pleasuredome]

nice chemtrails this evening over the midlands

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[steevo]

nice chemtrails this evening over the midlands

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/pleasuredome85/chemtrails.jpg?t=1227371330

Similar stuff here up north.

[saab1981]

There has sure been a lot of that going on in the last few weeks...

[john connor]

contrails my arse
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[lizzy]

hi oiram....great alternating pics..
Morgellons Disease, an infection with a new and unknown pathogen that is seriously disabling and disfiguring. Over 12,000 families in the U.S. are now infected with Morgellons.
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Morgellons has been associated with chemtrails for a few years now....self-replicating nanotech ,once it infests can NEVER be killed or cured....it is the one of most insidious things I have read about. The CDC have been told to deny it's existance....

[beldazar]

Im not sure it can never be killed, there is an article on here somewhere where somebody dropped a bottle of bleach accidently into a bath along with something else (cant remember) and apparently it went


It makes me absolutely sick to the core that the so-called 'experts' say its psycosomatic!! Must be sheer magic that people can conjure up this really weird disease simply with a state of mind!

Think it was this one

http://www.healthsalon.org/286/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease-a-possible-cure/

Morgellon’s Disease was named by one woman who wanted to give a name
to her son’s symptoms. She named it after an ancient disease where
black hairs came out of the skin.

However, the Morgellon’s disease of today is a totally NEW disease.
The fibers are red, blue, white and other colors.

These fibers DON’T BURN AT 1400 DEGREES F!!.

We now know that Morgellon’s disease is caused by some kind of
nanotechnology. The fibers are grown by miniature machines. Maybe
they escaped from some laboratory. You can learn all about this from
this interview and from this article by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger

Naming Morgellon’s after an ancient disease makes people dismiss it’s
importance as a disease that is cause by modern technology. Therefore
I suggest that the name be changed to - “Nanomorg Disease”.

I found this cure for Morgellon’s Disease (Nanomorg Disease) on
the net.

Cure for Morgellon’s Disease (Nanomorg Disease)

Have a Bath with Sun powdered laundry detergent with Colorsafe Bleach
PLUS Alfalfa tablets.

These seem to combine to produce something that is lethal to the
machines. This cure for Morgellon’s disease was discovered by
accident.

Read this wonderful testimonial from the person who discovered this
cure:

Mystery skin disease report….a positive treatment for Morgellons?

By Daisy Baleen

Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com

I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is
literally making it disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have
experimented with various “super baths,” filling the tub with hot
water and putting in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent,
laundry detergent, alcohol, etc….well, one day about four months
ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning
so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach
into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so
good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular
soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected.

Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash
that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I
returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed
and slid into the water for a soak.

Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the
sight of a morgellons sufferers’ lifetime: those black and grey
specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY
THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things
“dissolving” in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an
alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the
tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water!
They were the cause of the migration of all things Morgellon out of
my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks,
black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface
of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN
ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are
all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a
research lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at
least know some relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this
miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he’s a hero to
his long-suffering Mommy!

I’ve done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it
creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like
CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally
can only be a good thing, also; but it’s the BATHS that made all the
difference in the world for me.

I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with
even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered
laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the
migration of the specks.

God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.

It has cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to
post this information on the morgellons websites!!!!

(Editor’s note: The author of this article attributed the success of
this treatment to the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the
success came from the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent
with colorsafe Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets.

Thank you to God for this wonderful, freak discovery!

Maybe we should all try this bath, even if we think we don’t have
Nanomorg Disease, just in case we have a low level infection.

Please email me if you try this and tell me what results you get.
Please take photos of before and after if possible.

Please spread this information far and wide. It would be appreciated
if you added a link to www.relfe.com

[qasrose]

Im not sure it can never be killed, there is an article on here somewhere where somebody dropped a bottle of bleach accidently into a bath along with something else (cant remember) and apparently it went


It makes me absolutely sick to the core that the so-called 'experts' say its psycosomatic!! Must be sheer magic that people can conjure up this really weird disease simply with a state of mind!

Think it was this one

http://www.healthsalon.org/286/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease-a-possible-cure/

Morgellon’s Disease was named by one woman who wanted to give a name
to her son’s symptoms. She named it after an ancient disease where
black hairs came out of the skin.

However, the Morgellon’s disease of today is a totally NEW disease.
The fibers are red, blue, white and other colors.

These fibers DON’T BURN AT 1400 DEGREES F!!.

We now know that Morgellon’s disease is caused by some kind of
nanotechnology. The fibers are grown by miniature machines. Maybe
they escaped from some laboratory. You can learn all about this from
this interview and from this article by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger

Naming Morgellon’s after an ancient disease makes people dismiss it’s
importance as a disease that is cause by modern technology. Therefore
I suggest that the name be changed to - “Nanomorg Disease”.

I found this cure for Morgellon’s Disease (Nanomorg Disease) on
the net.

Cure for Morgellon’s Disease (Nanomorg Disease)

Have a Bath with Sun powdered laundry detergent with Colorsafe Bleach
PLUS Alfalfa tablets.

These seem to combine to produce something that is lethal to the
machines. This cure for Morgellon’s disease was discovered by
accident.

Read this wonderful testimonial from the person who discovered this
cure:

Mystery skin disease report….a positive treatment for Morgellons?

By Daisy Baleen

Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com

I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is
literally making it disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have
experimented with various “super baths,” filling the tub with hot
water and putting in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent,
laundry detergent, alcohol, etc….well, one day about four months
ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning
so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach
into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so
good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular
soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected.

Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash
that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I
returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed
and slid into the water for a soak.

Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the
sight of a morgellons sufferers’ lifetime: those black and grey
specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY
THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things
“dissolving” in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an
alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the
tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water!
They were the cause of the migration of all things Morgellon out of
my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks,
black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface
of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN
ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are
all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a
research lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at
least know some relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this
miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he’s a hero to
his long-suffering Mommy!

I’ve done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it
creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like
CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally
can only be a good thing, also; but it’s the BATHS that made all the
difference in the world for me.

I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with
even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered
laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the
migration of the specks.

God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.

It has cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to
post this information on the morgellons websites!!!!

(Editor’s note: The author of this article attributed the success of
this treatment to the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the
success came from the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent
with colorsafe Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets.

Thank you to God for this wonderful, freak discovery!

Maybe we should all try this bath, even if we think we don’t have
Nanomorg Disease, just in case we have a low level infection.

Please email me if you try this and tell me what results you get.
Please take photos of before and after if possible.

Please spread this information far and wide. It would be appreciated
if you added a link to www.relfe.com

And this is in the wrong section.. thread title is UK CHEMTRAILS

[lookfar]

And this is in the wrong section.. thread title is UK CHEMTRAILS

Well as morgellons has been related to chemtrails, I'd say it was in the correct section.

[i_am]

And this is in the wrong section.. thread title is UK CHEMTRAILS

It is in direct response to the post before it

Morgellons has been associated with chemtrails for a few years now....self-replicating nanotech ,once it infests can NEVER be killed or cured....it is the one of most insidious things I have read about. The CDC have been told to deny it's existance....

[beldazar]

Thanks Lookfar and I-Am :o

[sixfour]

I took these pics a few weeks ago in the sky over Leeds. (it's 3 shots from my phone patched together in photoshop).
I thought the extremely large circular trails were intriguing and figured you guys might want to take a look.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/cd0a8c19499970

Although, thinking about it now - i'm near-ish the airport, so it could well be aeroplanes having to circle before landing?

[marpat]

hi oiram....great alternating pics..
Morgellons Disease, an infection with a new and unknown pathogen that is seriously disabling and disfiguring. Over 12,000 families in the U.S. are now infected with Morgellons.
------

Morgellons has been associated with chemtrails for a few years now....self-replicating nanotech ,once it infests can NEVER be killed or cured....it is the one of most insidious things I have read about. The CDC have been told to deny it's existance....


So in a country of hundreds of millions of people only 12,000 have this condition. If the chemtrail theory was true and all this spraying was going on then why are there not hundreds of thousands of such cases.

Sounds a bit like sci-fi to me. Reading about it does not make it fact and making claims that people have been told to deny it does not add weight to your claim.

[antinwo]

One thing you have to ask yourself is if the chemtrail theory is not true then why does the whole theory exist in the first place? Do you think it is because some people have nothing better to do than to make up these theories and that it makes them feel so much better in doing so? Like many conspiracy theories I cannot believe people would use all their energy and time making them up unless there is some truth in the matter.

Whatever is going on whether it is Contrails or Chemtrails, the appearance of the sky has changed over the last ten years by the persistance of strange contrails so naturally one is going to wonder why????

[marpat]

One thing you have to ask yourself is if the chemtrail theory is not true then why does the whole theory exist in the first place? Do you think it is because some people have nothing better to do than to make up these theories and that it makes them feel so much better in doing so? Like many conspiracy theories I cannot believe people would use all their energy and time making them up unless there is some truth in the matter.

Whatever is going on whether it is Contrails or Chemtrails, the appearance of the sky has changed over the last ten years by the persistance of strange contrails so naturally one is going to wonder why????

Theories exist to plug holes in knowledge gaps. If people knew then there would be no theory. Maybe there is some truth in the theory but what is the percentage? perhaps it is 5% true and 95% bullshit.

People see things that they do not understand and then try and make something out of it, linking in stuff that they may feel is linked but which is not based on evidence or facts. How many people in here go on about chemtrails but know nothing of weather and how it works, or have ever attended met briefs where the height at which contrail appear is always indicated.

Some people have boring lives and need things like conspiracy theories to make them feel that everybody is out to get them, catipulting them to the stage of some global drama where human life is at stake. Some people sell books on stuff and therefore it is a money spinner. Some people want to feel they are right at the front with these theories and are held in awe by their 'groupies', which inflates their egos, etc. You cant just assume people are doing things out of the goodness of intent.

The sky could easily have changed due to pollution, the huge increase in aircraft, etc. Look for the obvious reasons first rather than the speculative ones. It is one thing to be aware of these changes but a huge leap of difference between awareness and the accusations of massive plots to poison people, etc.

[largejack]

For such a clever man who likes to put down the little people like us I'm going to have to draw attention to your spelling Marpat, 'weather' and 'catipulting' :rolleyes:

Anyway it shows how good a job we're doing when they need to place professional debunkers who insult our intelligence on these forums day in day out. For anyone who is a sick system server it's probably not a bad job, sitting typing on a forum all day, but I wonder what they'll do when the system tires of them as well.

[spock]

all you got to do is add it to the fuel at source. :(
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008136.jpg

outside my house this mornin

[antinwo]

all you got to do is add it to the fuel at source. :(
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008136.jpg

outside my house this mornin

They are hitting you hard today aren't they? The feckers are back spraying around my area too. Funny no persistant contrails for three days and lovely clear blue skies and today lots of persistant contrails and fecked up blue sky:mad:

[john connor]

For such a clever man who likes to put down the little people like us I'm going to have to draw attention to your spelling Marpat, 'weather' and 'catipulting' :rolleyes:

Anyway it shows how good a job we're doing when they need to place professional debunkers who insult our intelligence on these forums day in day out. For anyone who is a sick system server it's probably not a bad job, sitting typing on a forum all day, but I wonder what they'll do when the system tires of them as well.

Well they wont be around long enough to get their Gov pension thats for sure, been at it big time here in the East Midlands today too, what a suprise NOT!! only a couple of weekends till Xmas and lots of people in town:rolleyes:

[antinwo]

Well they wont be around long enough to get their Gov pension thats for sure, been at it big time here in the East Midlands today too, what a suprise NOT!! only a couple of weekends till Xmas and lots of people in town:rolleyes:

I know it aint good

[spock]

started off like this
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008131.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008134.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008137.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008138.jpg
an hour later
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008143.jpg

[spock]

Funny no persistant contrails for three days and lovely clear blue skies and today lots of persistant contrails and fecked up blue sky:mad:

it was the same last sunday too.

[john connor]

nudge nudge wink wink say no more

Here we go
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7729/dec72fz3.jpg

now they are cooking
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9828/dec71sp3.jpg

where did the sky go? I swear you can almost see the shit in this pic
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2744/dec73gh6.jpg

Only 17 spraying days till Christmas

[91181]

The last 3 days have been chemtrail free in hastings , about an hour ago 3 flew over in formation spraying up..:mad:


makes note to self to buy a camera .... Or better yet write a note to santa:D

[john connor]

I've just noticed in my last photo there is a Orange ish ball, can anyone see it? I took a photo a couple of months ago of another Orange thing in the sky, when I zoomed in close in photoshop it kind of looked liked a jellyfish, really odd

[john connor]

I've just noticed in my last photo there is a Orange ish ball, can anyone see it? I took a photo a couple of months ago of another Orange thing in the sky, when I zoomed in close in photoshop it kind of looked liked a jellyfish, really odd

zoom in and you can see 2 black dots and a greenish tail?? bizzare

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/206/p1000743zg8.jpg

[djpad34]

i saw one a few weeks back following a chem plane also today northwest england crazy spraying i had been out and about nipped down to b&q and i was just lol to myself in the door way nobody cared a dam at what was going on above its like eveybody is in a dram world realy wierd i feel like shouting at them HOW THE FUK CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT SHIT !!!!! OF ALL THE conspricy stuff around how can it be denied that them pesky planes are not NORMAL flight traffic !!! man and to top all this off today my little girl is now in hospital with Pneumonia had a bad start to the day and it finished even worse !!!!!

5 yrs old and Pneumonia the stupid fuks at the doctor sent her home twice with pissin antibiotics OH DONT WORRY USE THIS SHIT THAT I GET COMMISION FOR HANDING OUT THAT WILL FIX HER NOT !!!!

[john connor]

i saw one a few weeks back following a chem plane also today northwest england crazy spraying i had been out and about nipped down to b&q and i was just lol to myself in the door way nobody cared a dam at what was going on above its like eveybody is in a dram world realy wierd i feel like shouting at them HOW THE FUK CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT SHIT !!!!! OF ALL THE conspricy stuff around how can it be denied that them pesky planes are not NORMAL flight traffic !!! man and to top all this off today my little girl is now in hospital with Pneumonia had a bad start to the day and it finished even worse !!!!!

5 yrs old and Pneumonia the stupid fuks at the doctor sent her home twice with pissin antibiotics OH DONT WORRY USE THIS SHIT THAT I GET COMMISION FOR HANDING OUT THAT WILL FIX HER NOT !!!!

I hope your daughter gets well soon

[lightgiver]

started off like this
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008131.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008134.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008137.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008138.jpg
an hour later
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008143.jpg

And people say ,What are chemtrails,they do not exist,so chemtrail deniers wtf are them:(

[antinwo]

They are one of the many ways they are targeting us IMO like aspartame, mobile phone masts, MSG, Flouride, vaccinations the list is endless unfortunately the bastards:mad:

[realfake]

I've just noticed in my last photo there is a Orange ish ball, can anyone see it? I took a photo a couple of months ago of another Orange thing in the sky, when I zoomed in close in photoshop it kind of looked liked a jellyfish, really odd My brother photographed something similar a few months back. Have a look at this
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8012/image002be1.jpg

[howie]

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=mrftec&s=5)


http://i42.tinypic.com/27wrp1z.gif

This is a stationary trail from this morning, the clouds are moving east & it's very windy, the trail stays in the same place for over 5 minutes. Whatever it is, it's heavy, it's not water vapour.

[beldazar]

try telling that to Dreamweaver! :rolleyes:;)

[qasrose]

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=mrftec&s=5)


http://i42.tinypic.com/27wrp1z.gif

This is a stationary trail from this morning, the clouds are moving east & it's very windy, the trail stays in the same place for over 5 minutes. Whatever it is, it's heavy, it's not water vapour.

nice video howie, I've done some recordings,
need to edit them. spraying seems to have gone
heavy over here over the past few days..

[limelady]

try telling that to Dreamweaver! :rolleyes:;)

I've been watching and documenting chemtrails (very distinctive from contrails) since 2001, and to me people who constantly deny their existence despite overwhelming visual evidence, seem to be those who either suffer chronic 'eyes wired shut' syndrome or those who feel more secure with ......

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7753/screenhunter929bt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

But each to their own I guess. :p

[lightgiver]

My brother photographed something similar a few months back. Have a look at this
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8012/image002be1.jpg

and not just are they spraying everyone to death,they pack everybody together in terraced houses like sardines,must be a quicker way to kill the masses off,and if you do the research ,you will find this is not far from the truth:(
Thats the uk for you.

[beldazar]

I've been watching and documenting chemtrails (very distinctive from contrails) since 2001, and to me people who constantly deny their existence despite overwhelming visual evidence, seem to be those who either suffer chronic 'eyes wired shut' syndrome or those who feel more secure with ......

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7753/screenhunter929bt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

But each to their own I guess. :p


hahahaha, thanks Limelady, I nearly spat my coffee out!

You know, even if people DO think they are err...'con'trails, why then do they not mention the deliberate hijacking of our glorious rays of sunshine?

Are they vampires or something? Do they prefer overcast skies?
Are they the ones to sit in the shade rather than bask in the warmth?
Do they not CARE that the growth of plants is restricted?
I know this happens because last summer my son brought home a sunflower and the vast shortage of a sunny day down here meant it didnt grow. :mad:

Even if they dont take on board the deliberate spraying why is nothing said about the theft of a clear blue sky? :confused:;)

[howie]

Whenever I tell most sheeple about chemtrails, they say I'm mad, they don't need to look at the sky because they already know everything there is to know & a chemtrail will never win Strictly Come Dancing or the X Factor so they don't care.

back to the real world

the same plane from my previous gif leaving the still trail

http://i41.tinypic.com/303crh4.jpg

on/off spray (note how low the trail goes to the left, it drifted downwards as far as I could see)

http://i39.tinypic.com/2afd2eq.jpg

A BA jet flies past leaving no trail

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cxenw3.jpg

Gif 225kb

http://i39.tinypic.com/1m5b9.gif

[spock]

Sunday seems to be chemtrail day round here.
they seem much wider today. 747's just kicking stuff out twice as wide as the plane.
do planes have emmision testing for their M.O.T.?
it is warmer (been frosty last 2 sundays) and there was blue sky before the planes came fogged it all up.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/21122008209.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/21122008212.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/21122008225.jpg

[spock]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/21122008221.jpg

can you see the shadow of the forming trail on the clouds?

[spock]

some a mate sent me from today. the last 2 are photoshoped :rolleyes:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/DSC00448.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/DSC00449.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/DSC00449_-_Copy.jpg

i got one similar the other week. we live 7 miles apart.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/spock1878/mad/07122008136.jpg

[lewi]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2WooQCYAo

[antinwo]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2WooQCYAo

Brill song maybe Marpat should give it a listen:D

[hagbard_celine]

Today I've seen the first chemtrials over Oxfordshire for about a month. Let's see if this has an effect.

[spock]

check your window cills for red and blue/black fibres???

[howie]

Time lapse video from this afternoon (404kb gif)

http://i44.tinypic.com/295u34.gif

6 minutes of video speeded up 18x

The clouds disappear as they pass through the flight path

[lightgiver]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2WooQCYAo

2nd that,love that track,anyway i have noticed over this pagan holiday period,clear blue skys and bright sunshine where i live and you know what ,hardly a plane in the sky,you see because all the chemtrail pilots are on their chem free holiday,what a surprise,well not really,i am sure in jan mid month it will start clouding over again,maybe they will run out of fuel;)hope so.

[amandaooo]

In the sky the other evening there were lots of very fine pink trails. Are these just clouds or can chemtrails be pink?

EDIT I should say they looked nothing like normal clouds - they looked like plane trails.

[beldazar]

Thats strange! Yesterday my son did two jigsaw puzzles with what looked like 'pink' chemtrails.....the jigsaws were Disneys, I checked the make after seeing the trails on the pic :rolleyes:

[truthseeker1980]

In the sky the other evening there were lots of very fine pink trails. Are these just clouds or can chemtrails be pink?

EDIT I should say they looked nothing like normal clouds - they looked like plane trails.

Yes the reason clouds and chemtrails or anything in the sky goes pink in evening is the reflection of the sun.

beldazar, on HollyOaks last night one of the opening scenes were some crossed chemtrails which they then used to super impose a letter with a cross in it. Actually it's probably todays one, my girlfriend always watches the next days one too. Have a look tonight or on the omnibus at the weekend.

they are showing them in loads of things now, i think its so people get used to them and dont question or even remember how a real CONTRAIL behaves or looks like compared to the CHEMTRAILS.

[andy601245]

Hi all.I've been giving this subject a lot of research.Just like cell phone towers,once you become aware of them you see them everywhere.Where i live in kirkcaldy fife,there is constant spraying on a daily basis.I.ve taken hundreds of photos and videos of them.When they are blatantly spraying right above you,you can feel it land on you as if you were walking past a garden where someone had a sprinkler going.Apparently,there is a variety of havy metals in them.Barium ,aluminium,and Titanium.Also various pathogens including red blood cells.I have a theory that "they" the illuminati are compromising everyones immune systems and that one day they will then unleash something a lot more serious and world depopulation will begin.(Although)i think it has already begun.Poisons in the water food etc.Hate to sound negative but i prefer reality of whats happening around me to reality tv.Peace to all.

[antinwo]

OMG first chemtrails here in the north east of england since before xmas and boy are they massive:mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0448.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0445.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0447.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/deborah1978/DSCF0446.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

OMG first chemtrails here in the north east of england since before xmas and boy are they massive:mad:



Yuck!:eek::(

Let us know if it effects the weather or environment in any way.

[antinwo]

Yuck!:eek::(

Let us know if it effects the weather or environment in any way.

I will do

[steevo]

They are chemtrailing bigtime today here in the North of England :mad: And they are doing it across the path that the sun goes AS USUAL.

If you havent read this thread, then please do so :-

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47749

[antinwo]

Funny that Steevo cos I haven't noticed any here today and yet yesterday there were fuck loads. Maybe their is no air traffic today:rolleyes:

[keithm]

i have a hunch that the massive increase in chemtrails over the past 3mths has been done to keep britain frozen,blocking warmer weather getting in and keeping it very cold for a sustained period will certainly kill off many of the old and vulnerable.

[smig1975]

i saw a shed load of chemtrails around york (uk) on the afternoon of 6 january`09,　they were really going for it, i reckoned 15-20 different trails, merging together. its also bloody freezing at the `mo and before them it WASNT cloudy and the sun was actually quite warm.
anyone else around york also look up?

[qasrose]

I think they've changed direction, because I seen loads in Liverpool
But these where not going in the same direction as normal. I also
seen 3 going in a straight line next to each other.

I expect we will be seeing a lot more of this stuff.

[thetruthseeker]

Tuesday 6th January 2009. I have never seen so many trails at high altitude in the sky as I did yesterday near Manchester Airport(UK), it was a busy day in the air yesterday. Nearly every plane had a long trail behind it that lingered for ages as they expanded and slowly dispersed to look like thin cloud. Some of them had a spiralling effect when dispersed which didn't seem natural at all.
I was under the impression that the hot jet engines react with the ice crystals at high altitude causing water vapour trails but they dissapear after a few seconds where as these lingered for a long time. Also the air didn't seem to smell very fresh either. Does anyone categorically know what is in those trails, why they would do it and most importantly and disturbingly without someone questioning it how they would get away with filling these planes with poisonous materials other than fuel and dispersing them in the air. Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.

[realfake]

Read this article in full http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/climate-scientists-its-time-for-plan-b-1221092.html

[qasrose]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iuGE_mgD3Fg

Watch in HD for better version.

I've also noticed that mornings seem to be when they are heavy spraying

[marpat]

Tuesday 6th January 2009. I have never seen so many trails at high altitude in the sky as I did yesterday near Manchester Airport(UK), it was a busy day in the air yesterday. Nearly every plane had a long trail behind it that lingered for ages as they expanded and slowly dispersed to look like thin cloud. Some of them had a spiralling effect when dispersed which didn't seem natural at all.
I was under the impression that the hot jet engines react with the ice crystals at high altitude causing water vapour trails but they dissapear after a few seconds where as these lingered for a long time. Also the air didn't seem to smell very fresh either. Does anyone categorically know what is in those trails, why they would do it and most importantly and disturbingly without someone questioning it how they would get away with filling these planes with poisonous materials other than fuel and dispersing them in the air. Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.

Perhaps the spiral effects were due to propeller driven aircraft. Such things can ceate a spiral contrail.

The air didnt smell fresh around manchester? wow I am shocked.

[lightgiver]

2 planes over my gaff now side by side in the dark chem trailing,and the moon is nice and bright exposing their fucking evil.

When i get back to the uk i will be seeing one or 2 of these pilots,and that's a promise.

[murdamo]

I took these when I was in Germany last month.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/ranrod/chemtrail1.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/ranrod/chemtrail2.jpg

[john connor]

There is VERY heavy spraying in the East Midlands today, I dont remember it ever being this bad before, whats it like elsewhere???

[beldazar]

Sorry to hear that John Connor, its clear down in Cornwall and no sign of any attemps