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tracker
17-06-2010, 02:44 AM
( For week minded , frail spirited , easily controlled and fire fueling trouble makers , understand this before you post here .
Any large lettering, bold fonting , colour coded writings here is for easy referencing and to high light important parts of this thread , so please do not start with your mind games about it being shouting because quite frankly It is getting boaring and is very sad of you for thinking it .:cool:)



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When many people think of Autism they automatically think something along the lines of
“A special needs person that needs to go to a special school or institution” because “They have difficulty settling down in to every day life”.

HOW WRONG WE ALL HAVE BEEN !

It is about time this was made wide screen folks , Autism is not the sickness .

The sickness is “US” !

When we look upon an Autistic person , our automatic reaction is to form an opinion that they can not achieve , can not relate or do any good for society and that they need special help.

Well this thread is to prove , that if we allow them to settle , allow them to pursue their goals , they can often fly to extreme heights of achievements and glide way above the normal average person .



Boy's case shows autism 'recovery'

OTTAWA -- The 16-year-old boy whose case will be outlined at an Ottawa university today is an example of a phenomenon many used to dismiss as impossible -- that an autistic child can "recover" from the disorder.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=b12766bd-b01a-4999-8ca2-d718f5976bdf




Autistic player’s dream comes true .

http://www.theautismnews.com/tag/elgin/

What frightens me here people , is something quite bad , I have searched on the internet for many hours and could not find many stories like this .
WTF ?

It is obvious that these people ( above ) had love an support from their parents for a long time and those parents refused to submit to the PTB that pretend to know what’s best for their kids.
Years later this is what can happen , true freedom .

Yet , since many parents fall for the “Oh I am not professional enough to look after my own child” or “They know best for my child” tactic from various government departments , they often hand their kids over ( lets face it ) to an ancient medieval back street butchers yard we still call special schools .
Thos apparent special need schools people happen to RELY ( on for a living ) on looking after mentally Ill children and people . The idea , is that as soon as autism is diagnosed , they must be rubbing their robbing butchers hands together just waiting for that all important income
Yet
Here we see , how two families have done something that has thrown up the dust in the faces of those who tried to warn those families that their children needed to be in institutions.

My friend has an Autistic boy and he is constantly hounded by the PTB every week .
Every week the school complains about his son too, yet every time my friend goes to that school and asks if they have supported his goals ( subjects he wishes to learn ) they always say “NO” that they could not because of blab la blab la bla .

Since this boy has gone to that school , my friend has had to tell that school off for saying things about him . Such as “He is a special child” OR “A special needs child”.
My friend and I hate these terms that they place upon that child for a good reason .

If you claim , especially in front of other young children , that a specific child is special , it sections them off from the rest , not only will other children treat them differently , it will indeed make that child feel cut off from every one around them , and this is teachers we are talking about folks .

My case for this thread ?

Love Autistic people !
Allow them to live !

Stop making their lives -----------------HELL !

What could be more hell other than being thrown in to an institution , that makes money for looking after you ,
but does not know you
Will not support your dreams
Will not support your goals
Refuse to accept you have a life that belongs to you
And makes money from it

These people need love , space , a tiny bit of support , and less ignorance from other people .

It is about time that the Autism books were rewritten !


:)

petrified
17-06-2010, 02:54 AM
aspy want a hug?

f13ticket
17-06-2010, 03:02 AM
Interesting article. Anything of deep spirituality tells us that we are not our bodies. Autism is a form of thinking, not a disease. Those with it should not aspire to be different or normal, rather simply themselves.

f13ticket
17-06-2010, 03:02 AM
aspy want a hug?

Not sure if I am, but a hug and kisses would be nice. :)

tracker
17-06-2010, 08:24 AM
Interesting article. Anything of deep spirituality tells us that we are not our bodies. Autism is a form of thinking, not a disease. Those with it should not aspire to be different or normal, rather simply themselves.


I remember a while ago in my early twenties , I was on community service for being bad boy and was placed on a painting project in a school for the mentaly handycapped.

A young boy in their walked right up to me and said
"Your dad's a wanker"

I replied
"Well he might be , so how is your day going so far?" ( I could clearly see at the time he did not apear normal to me , as that was my way of looking at things at the time )

He then said to me
"I know every single bus number and bus route in kent"

"Good for you" I replied.

He then asked me my date of birth . I told him and within less than 5 seconds he told me I was born on a Wednesday.

How brilliant is that ?

A person who could be one of the best mathamaticians about witha recall that could beat a computer and hes stuck in that life style.

My friend who has an Autistic child is indeed him self Autistic .
He is a computer genius and is self employed .
He is almost a God on computing , programing and other like wize stuff , yet , has any one supported him ?
NOPE !

typical realy .

It is a sad situation .

:)

curtaincat
17-06-2010, 05:31 PM
I remember a while ago in my early twenties , I was on community service for being bad boy and was placed on a painting project in a school for the mentaly handycapped.

A young boy in their walked right up to me and said
"Your dad's a wanker"

I replied
"Well he might be , so how is your day going so far?" ( I could clearly see at the time he did not apear normal to me , as that was my way of looking at things at the time )

He then said to me
"I know every single bus number and bus route in kent"

"Good for you" I replied.

He then asked me my date of birth . I told him and within less than 5 seconds he told me I was born on a Wednesday.

How brilliant is that ?

A person who could be one of the best mathamaticians about witha recall that could beat a computer and hes stuck in that life style.

My friend who has an Autistic child is indeed him self Autistic .
He is a computer genius and is self employed .
He is almost a God on computing , programing and other like wize stuff , yet , has any one supported him ?
NOPE !

typical realy .

It is a sad situation .

:)

I always thought that autistics know that this world is fkd and dont wanna be part of it.

I found a link... just read the right hand side, describing a book I read ages ago...

the curious case of the dog in the night...

I am only putting this in to show i kinda understand..

http://www.reviewsofbooks.com/curious_incident_of_the_dog/


Read that book , in the library... if you can find it.

standuptothisshit
17-06-2010, 05:37 PM
While there are some very fine people who have achieved a great deal and just happen to be autistic, there are also some very messed up autistics in this world who have latched on to the modern-day 'excuse' culture as a reason for them to never contribute positively to society. For an internet-famous example, search for Chris-chan. Guy has an entire Wiki devoted to the study of his bizarre personality.

I'm sure there's a lot of scope for a lot of autistics to contribute positively and improve our understanding of their condition. But not all of them WANT to be helped, it must be remembered.

armoured_amazon
17-06-2010, 05:38 PM
I always thought that autistics know that this world is fkd and dont wanna be part of it.

Me too. I've worked with a few autistic and aspy music students over the years. :)

gaias child
17-06-2010, 05:50 PM
Great thread, I have aspergers traits and my son is autistic, he could play chess at 3 from memorising moves although he had no speech, and when he was 9 he watched a friend of his play a classical piece on the piano and could literally just play it from memorising the keys.

The savant skills vary quite a lot, they do not all have the same skills, most asd people have savant skills or expert skills of some kind, but many are not even recognised.

He has improved over the years, not sure improved is the right word as autism should be valued, for what it is, but he seems less obviously autistic now and lives independently.

I also like the film the horse boy about the couple with an autistic child who took him to the tribal shamans and he came back with many of his symptoms incontinence and tantrumming gone.

The chief shaman said that the boy if been born of their tribe was a type that would be selected as a shaman.



I did similar with my child too and it is effective as they have strong resonance for this kind of thing ie nature, animals, well my son did anyway.

He is also pre cognitive. he knows whose on the phone when it rings or he thinks about someone and the next thing is they are knocking on his door

The Horse Boy - YouTube

http://www.horseboymovie.com/Film.php

gaias child
18-06-2010, 07:09 AM
I remember a while ago in my early twenties , I was on community service for being bad boy and was placed on a painting project in a school for the mentaly handycapped.

A young boy in their walked right up to me and said
"Your dad's a wanker"

I replied
"Well he might be , so how is your day going so far?" ( I could clearly see at the time he did not apear normal to me , as that was my way of looking at things at the time )

He then said to me
"I know every single bus number and bus route in kent"

"Good for you" I replied.

He then asked me my date of birth . I told him and within less than 5 seconds he told me I was born on a Wednesday.

How brilliant is that ?

A person who could be one of the best mathamaticians about witha recall that could beat a computer and hes stuck in that life style.
My friend who has an Autistic child is indeed him self Autistic .
He is a computer genius and is self employed .
He is almost a God on computing , programing and other like wize stuff , yet , has any one supported him ?
NOPE !

typical realy .

It is a sad situation .

:)

Brilliant post.

That is what I find so sad about it too, people talents and skills that could be used to benefit the world. I sometimes wonder if they want to label these people as they are could be a threat in some way, if those skills were truly harnessed.

I can't bear some of the ASD forums as so many are too busy complaining about their awful children and medicating them up to the eyeballs with ritalin, and ssri's which will make asd probs worse. I can see where the problem is right there.

I knew a girl who had asperger she was homeless and lived on a burnt out boat and could not cope and was suicidal , the ony thing keeping her going was her dogs.

Her brother who also had Aspergers had died in a psychiatric institution, she said it was the medications had killed him. There was no justice for that person, and I wonder how many people that is happening too, that we are unaware of, it is so easy to just cover up

I'v got aspergers, but I have no computer skills what soever, I have hyperlexia instead. My sons are a bit better, skills vary a lot from person to person, although computer skills are a common one. I think if you have computer skills in todays world, you might fair better, than someone who has not.

crystalline
18-06-2010, 11:07 PM
My child is autistic I have aspie traits, neither of us feel part of this world and both of us have psychic experiences.

cassandra200
19-06-2010, 12:17 AM
My child is autistic I have aspie traits, neither of us feel part of this world and both of us have psychic experiences.

I have an autistic family member. It is a great challenge.