DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent

[mynameis]

DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites, Fox Science

Wednesday, October 17, 2007

By Paul Wagenseil
AP

DNA co-discoverer and Nobel Prize winner James D. Watson in June 2007.

One of the world's most eminent scientists has created a racial firestorm in Britain.

James D. Watson, 79, co-discoverer of the DNA helix and winner of the 1962 Nobel Prize in medicine, told the Sunday Times of London that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really."

He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."

• Click here to read the full Sunday Times of London profile.

Acknowledging that the issue was a "hot potato," the lifelong Democrat and avowed secular humanist nonetheless said his beliefs were not an excuse to discriminate against blacks.

"There are many people of color who are very talented," said Watson, "but don't promote them when they haven't succeeded at the lower level."
Related

He told the interviewer, a former student of his, that he had recently inaugurated a DNA learning center near Harlem, and would like to have more black researchers at his lab, "but there's no one to recruit."

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Human Body Center.

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.

Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University in Britain, was quick to dismiss Watson's comments.

"This is Watson at his most scandalous, " Rose told the Times of London. "If he knew the literature in the subject, he would know he was out of his depth scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."

Watson is the former director and current chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory biological-research institution on New York's Long Island, and both admired and infamous for bluntly speaking his mind.

In a British television documentary in 2003, Watson advised eliminating low intelligence through gene therapy.

"If you are really stupid, I would call that a disease," said Watson, according to New Scientist magazine. "The lower 10 percent who really have difficulty, even in elementary school, what's the cause of it?

"A lot of people would like to say, 'Well, poverty, things like that.' It probably isn't," he added. "So I'd like to get rid of that, to help the lower 10 percent."

He also touched upon sexual attraction in the same TV program.

"People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty," Watson said. "I think it would be great."

In 2000, he told a lecture audience at U.C. Berkeley that there was a correlation between a population's exposure to sunlight and its sex drive.

"That's why you have Latin lovers," Watson said, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient."

The notion that intelligence tests and other scientific evidence shows that racial groups differ in intelligence, at least statistically, is not a new one.

It last gained popular attention in 1994 with "The Bell Curve," a best-selling book written by Harvard psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein (who died before publication) and political scientist Charles Murray, which argued that intelligence was more important than socio-economic background or education in achieving success in American life.

The book does not explicitly ascribe a genetic, racial connection to intelligence, but Murray in his publicity tour to promote the book cited studies that human intelligence could be ranked by ancestry, with East Asians and European Jews leading the way.

That view was more clearly stated in 1995 by British-Canadian psychologist J. Philippe Rushton, whose "Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective" quantified dozens of differences between blacks, whites and Asians.

In the 1970s, electronics pioneer William Shockley, who won the 1956 Nobel Prize in physics, said that the human race would suffer as less intelligent people outbred more intelligent ones, with the greatest damage to occur in the black American population.

Most sociologists, geneticists and psychologists reject the notion of racial differences in intelligence, pointing out that economic and social factors clearly influence IQ test scores.

The issue of race itself is scientifically controversial, with some arguing that it is a meaningless term and others saying that consistent traits occur among individuals of shared ancestry.

Watson is currently in Britain promoting his just-published new volume of memoirs, "Avoid Boring People: Lessons From a Life in Science."

"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically," he writes. "Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html

[umbrex]

oh, fox news says it's true ....then it must be so

[irak]

http:///img337.imageshack.us/img337/3907/aefartingre7.gif

[synak]

So how do these supposed 'scientists' explain their own mental incompetence?

IQ test scores determine nothing at all really. The mind is infinite and can not be measured in any shape or from. As a matter of a fact I say down with the narrow minded term that is "intelligence". Only awareness and consciousness exists, which these puppets obviously lack.

FAUX News is at it again aye....

[gremlin]

which these puppets obviously lack

They are trying to evolve, they represent 10% of london, they are offing themselves off in large numbers, and love to hang around in gangs alot on street corners.

i blame the white people trying to imitate the black steroe type, which means things are gonna get worse.

[synak]

They are trying to evolve, they represent 10% of london, they are offing themselves off in large numbers, and love to hang around in gangs alot on street corners.


I knew this thread would attract you like a moth to lights.

Though just so you know, I was actually referring to the "scientists" in that line you quoted.

[mynameis]

I knew this thread would attract you like a moth to lights.

Though just so you know, I was actually referring to the "scientists" in that line you quoted.

I was telling my father just the other day that people would mistreat other people throughout history because of stupidity, it looks like I'm right. Case in point. Not you synak.

[synak]

Absolutely right, though I would probably call it pure ignorance which many times is desired by some people and so they remain this way. This makes it that much more difficult to communicate with them in a reasonable manner.

[gremlin]

I was telling my father just the other day that people would mistreat other people throughout history because of stupidity, it looks like I'm right. Case in point. Not you synak.

what did your dad say, phone the boys my son is gayhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Sad/crying-022.gif

lets go a hunting son

[eternal_spirit]

So how do these supposed 'scientists' explain their own mental incompetence?


............

LOL

[mynameis]

Originally Posted by synak View Post
So how do these supposed 'scientists' explain their own mental incompetence?............

LOL

The same as a Gremlin?;)

[real6]

Im only half Black so i must be only half stupid/less intelligent...

Thnak lord for my Danish Side.... wooooohoooooooooooooo!!!

[mountain]

http://www.accessexcellence.org/RC/AB/BC/Rosalind_Franklin.html

[shodan]

the lifelong Democrat and avowed secular humanist nonetheless said his beliefs were not an excuse to discriminate against blacks.

Yeah, right.

[kblood]

I am not sure where he is actually going with this...

Lets say black people (as he writes it) are less intelligent.. that should give them less rights such as voting, jobs and...? They are to be treated differently? If the world was to be run by the most intelligent people in the world, then lets start out by stopping the last 5-10 US presidents from ever doing anything political ever again, and in retrospective, maybe cancel out what has been done by them.

Being stupid is a human right, no matter what race we have. Intelligent persons does not = good persons either. An intelligent person is probably better at making the world suffer than a stupid person is.

This "scientist" sure is far out on this one. I thought he might have found out some genetic evidence for it or something, which as I see it does not change anything either. This he has not even managed to do, and he got his nobel price for some DNA discovery? Maybe he burned out all his braincells getting that nobel price?

[trumansho]

So how do these supposed 'scientists' explain their own mental incompetence?

IQ test scores determine nothing at all really. The mind is infinite and can not be measured in any shape or from. As a matter of a fact I say down with the narrow minded term that is "intelligence". Only awareness and consciousness exists, which these puppets obviously lack.

FAUX News is at it again aye....
Please, Says who white supremacy? lol @ Faux news.

[anoninnyc]

Being stupid is a human right, no matter what race we have. Intelligent persons does not = good persons either. An intelligent person is probably better at making the world suffer than a stupid person is.



yes, for example, condoleeza rice is brilliant and evil.

[rhodiola]

It may be politically incorrect and hard to swallow for some -- some of Icke's work is too for many people, but in general, blacks are better at sports such as running and less intelligent than whites. A politically incorrect fact.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations:

'Wisdom' is more useful than 'Intelligence', for is it not more 'Peaceful' to be a 'Simple' man who is 'Wise', than to be an 'Intelligent' man who plays the 'Fool'?

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[_neo2_]

less blacks progress to learn the illuminati doctrine in which "intelligence"
is measured by.
your measuring them at a game on the whole they're not playing and one that the white race has been spending hundreds of years supressing them from.

[rhodiola]

I guess it's like saying as a white guy I'm more susceptible to skin cancer than a blacked skinned person, or on average Asians are more intelligent than whites (also true,) of course everyone is different and there are clever and stupid people of all skin colours and races.

[vidal monsoon]

DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites, Fox Science

Wednesday, October 17, 2007

By Paul Wagenseil
AP

DNA co-discoverer and Nobel Prize winner James D. Watson in June 2007.

One of the world's most eminent scientists has created a racial firestorm in Britain.

James D. Watson, 79, co-discoverer of the DNA helix and winner of the 1962 Nobel Prize in medicine, told the Sunday Times of London that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really."

He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."



he also has some other 'interesting' views -

Nobel winner backs abortion `for any reason'
Independent, The (London), Feb 17, 1997 by Steve Boggan, Glenda Cooper


The Nobel prizewinning scientist who unravelled the structure of DNA, said yesterday that women should be able to abort foetuses at will if advances in genetics showed that they would be born gay, or dyslexic, or musically untalented or even too short to play basketball.

In an interview with The Independent, Dr James Watson said "there could be 1,000 different reasons" why women might want to abort a child, "many of them absurd", but society should do nothing to stop them.

...

when asked where society should draw the abortion line, he replied: "Society shouldn't . . . I don't see where you can draw the line. Some people might not want a child who is dyslexic. A woman could say that some day, if a gene were discovered for musical ability, and her child didn't have it, she might want to abort. "Someone else might say, I do not want my child to be short because I love basketball and he'll be too short to play . . . "


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970217/ai_n14094216

see also -
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/eugenics_blacks_are_stupid_comments_betray_dark_mi ndset.htm

[mountain]

he also has some other 'interesting' views -



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970217/ai_n14094216

see also -
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/eugenics_blacks_are_stupid_comments_betray_dark_mi ndset.htm

He apparently has some mental handicaps of his own to make such statements.

[trumansho]

It may be politically incorrect and hard to swallow for some -- some of Icke's work is too for many people, but in general, blacks are better at sports such as running and less intelligent than whites. A politically incorrect fact.
So you agree that blacks are less intelligent than whites? It's alot of undercover racist on this site. I can prove you wrong,but I'm not going to go there,because having recessive genes is not superior boo. Melanin is in everything including the universe. Catch it!

[logik]

Q: Why would you believe a scientist who tells you blacks are superior to whites but not a scientist who tells you whites are superior to blacks?

A: Bigotry.

[gremlin]

Q: Why would you believe a scientist who tells you blacks are superior to whites but not a scientist who tells you whites are superior to blacks?

A: Bigotry.

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/confused-8.gif

man you need a tissue cause you got an issue

[logik]

^ How so?

A member accuses someone of being a racist and then, in the very next sentence, slips in a racist comment by spinning african-originate peoples as superior to others, i.e. Racism.

Quite bizarre if you ask me.....

[logik]

Plus my point was rather simple, no?

To take a credited scientists opinion that blacks are somehow less intelligent than whites and throw it out the window only to embrace another crackpot racist theory re:melanin is counterproductive.

A brother has a holy DUTY to speak AGAINST racism, not embrace it when it amounts to a pat on the back for his own people.

[logik]

In all honesty if, on a forum such as this, you STILL have people claiming blacks are biologically superior to whites and that whites are, by DNA, more intelligent than blacks and for God's sake those JEWS are all out to get us we all may as well hang our hats eat at Mcdonalds and join the plans for the NWO because we DESERVE to be in the situation we are in.

[gremlin]

why ow why do i get themhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Computer/computer-22.gif

[logik]

Not a big fan of that old boy they call "intelligent debate" are you?

One sentence seems to be about all you can handle.

[logik]

Unless of course by "them" you meant the crabs.

You get them from sex with dirty partner. I hear they pinch so that might be where your "ow" comes into play.

[kblood]

I have to say I still do not believe it. These "facts" are given without any proof at all.

Unless this scientist has found genetic proof of this, (and please notice how this professor has just researched DNA and genes, that research is not linked to this "research".) then I do not see how it is to be classified as scientific. Its presumptions, and badly put assumptions as well. Why would intellect have to do with social policies? :

James D. Watson, 79, co-discoverer of the DNA helix and winner of the 1962 Nobel Prize in medicine, told the Sunday Times of London that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really."

Is he proposing social policies should be different depending on racial heritage? Seems to me that the nobel prize he won has gotten to his head.

He told the interviewer, a former student of his, that he had recently inaugurated a DNA learning center near Harlem, and would like to have more black researchers at his lab, "but there's no one to recruit."

Lets take a look at Africa, and then take a look at Harlem. From what I have heard both places have been heavily plagued by crime and drugs (not sure how much drugs have been an issue though). Africa also have major outbreaks of diseases like aids. White people and the places where we usually live are much more fertile countries. Not plagued quite as much by drought and famines. These are facts that this James Watson clearly does not seem to take in. And then they place a DNA learning center near Harlem? As far as I know they have just gotten accepted as being able to become lawyers and politicians... something racism has not allowed for blacks at the same level as whites 50 years ago. And now they are expected to break the trend and become DNA researchers?

With the right motivation and possibilities I do not believe race is something that makes any difference at all. Social tests only shows how it is statistically, they do not show if it is genes that has any influence at all.

[logik]

Its all racist nonsense. You find it everywhere these days and its purpose is to create division.

Nothing short of religion can divide people so efficiently.

[agate]

DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites, Fox Science

Wednesday, October 17, 2007

By Paul Wagenseil
AP

DNA co-discoverer and Nobel Prize winner James D. Watson in June 2007.

One of the world's most eminent scientists has created a racial firestorm in Britain.

James D. Watson, 79, co-discoverer of the DNA helix and winner of the 1962 Nobel Prize in medicine, told the Sunday Times of London that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really."

He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."

• Click here to read the full Sunday Times of London profile.

Acknowledging that the issue was a "hot potato," the lifelong Democrat and avowed secular humanist nonetheless said his beliefs were not an excuse to discriminate against blacks.

"There are many people of color who are very talented," said Watson, "but don't promote them when they haven't succeeded at the lower level."
Related

He told the interviewer, a former student of his, that he had recently inaugurated a DNA learning center near Harlem, and would like to have more black researchers at his lab, "but there's no one to recruit."

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Human Body Center.

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.

Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University in Britain, was quick to dismiss Watson's comments.

"This is Watson at his most scandalous, " Rose told the Times of London. "If he knew the literature in the subject, he would know he was out of his depth scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."

Watson is the former director and current chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory biological-research institution on New York's Long Island, and both admired and infamous for bluntly speaking his mind.

In a British television documentary in 2003, Watson advised eliminating low intelligence through gene therapy.

"If you are really stupid, I would call that a disease," said Watson, according to New Scientist magazine. "The lower 10 percent who really have difficulty, even in elementary school, what's the cause of it?

"A lot of people would like to say, 'Well, poverty, things like that.' It probably isn't," he added. "So I'd like to get rid of that, to help the lower 10 percent."

He also touched upon sexual attraction in the same TV program.

"People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty," Watson said. "I think it would be great."

In 2000, he told a lecture audience at U.C. Berkeley that there was a correlation between a population's exposure to sunlight and its sex drive.

"That's why you have Latin lovers," Watson said, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient."

The notion that intelligence tests and other scientific evidence shows that racial groups differ in intelligence, at least statistically, is not a new one.

It last gained popular attention in 1994 with "The Bell Curve," a best-selling book written by Harvard psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein (who died before publication) and political scientist Charles Murray, which argued that intelligence was more important than socio-economic background or education in achieving success in American life.

The book does not explicitly ascribe a genetic, racial connection to intelligence, but Murray in his publicity tour to promote the book cited studies that human intelligence could be ranked by ancestry, with East Asians and European Jews leading the way.

That view was more clearly stated in 1995 by British-Canadian psychologist J. Philippe Rushton, whose "Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective" quantified dozens of differences between blacks, whites and Asians.

In the 1970s, electronics pioneer William Shockley, who won the 1956 Nobel Prize in physics, said that the human race would suffer as less intelligent people outbred more intelligent ones, with the greatest damage to occur in the black American population.

Most sociologists, geneticists and psychologists reject the notion of racial differences in intelligence, pointing out that economic and social factors clearly influence IQ test scores.

The issue of race itself is scientifically controversial, with some arguing that it is a meaningless term and others saying that consistent traits occur among individuals of shared ancestry.

Watson is currently in Britain promoting his just-published new volume of memoirs, "Avoid Boring People: Lessons From a Life in Science."

"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically," he writes. "Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html

Nobody can determine who is intelligent except himself or herself.
There's no standard at all.

[synak]

Its all racist nonsense. You find it everywhere these days and its purpose is to create division.


Exactly. They lead some to feel a superiority complex and others an inferiority complex which in turn creates much division amongst the people and prevents unification.

Propaganda for the divide and conquer machine.

[gremlin]

Its all racist nonsense. You find it everywhere these days and its purpose is to create division.

Nothing short of religion can divide people so efficiently.

yes you keep believing that, keep in the square box of reality:D

[peachped]

OMG! He should be burnt at the stake!

Why is this front page news?
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00257/p1-171007_257291b.jpg

[neon]

OMG! He should be burnt at the stake!

Why is this front page news?
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00257/p1-171007_257291b.jpg

God that is truely SICK! this agenda is so damn disgusting, i dont believe a damn thing about it.

[trumansho]

Just when most white scientist thought the world was flat and Africans always knew it was round.

[somewarez]

hey haha totally true Truman :D

damn the flat theory .. I love it cos its a great debate and shows the church for what they really are... (not going into that right now) but your right mate :D

SW

[gremlin]

Just when most white scientist thought the world was flat and Africans always knew it was round.

interesting! ok wheres this proof! im really interested to see thishttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drooling/drooling-5.gif

[gremlin]

[QUOTE=peachped;163128]OMG! He should be burnt at the stake!

you sound like a facist big time. if someone doesn't agree with your square reality "lets burn them" FACIST PIG!

[trumansho]

interesting! ok wheres this proof! im really interested to see thishttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drooling/drooling-5.gifThe proof is in the pudding. The dogon tribe in mali always knew about the star systems and the planet being round. I know white supremacy love to keep white people thinking they are god,but everything has melanin in it the universe itself and all the other universes and galaxies. We are the Alpha and the Omega. I know the truth so bs like this don't really bother me. 2012 white supremacy time is up!

[peachped]

[QUOTE=peachped;163128]OMG! He should be burnt at the stake!

you sound like a facist big time. if someone doesn't agree with your square reality "lets burn them" FACIST PIG!

Black people used to be able to fly until whites came along and started oppressing them, now the World is getting round, get used to it! :D

[tinmenace]

This has nothing to do with intelligence, but Sleezza's great great grandparents were a plantation owner and his servant woman. Quite an interesting bit of history there for her.

I find it fascinating because there is a similar story in my ancestory, although I don't know the details. :(

[gremlin]

Black people used to be able to fly until whites came along and started oppressing them, now the World is getting round, get used to it!

stop listening to stories told to you by your parents at bed time,http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/hahaha-024.gif like the imagination

[anoninnyc]

some of you place way too much emphasis on your body.

[_neo2_]

gremlin -u said

interesting! ok wheres this proof! im really interested to see thishttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drooling/drooling-5.gif

trumansho replied

The proof is in the pudding. The dogon tribe in mali always knew about the star systems and the planet being round. I know white supremacy love to keep white people thinking they are god,but everything has melanin in it the universe itself and all the other universes and galaxies. We are the Alpha and the Omega. I know the truth so bs like this don't really bother me. 2012 white supremacy time is up!

have you heard of the dogon tribe?
was there a reason you were drooling?

[gremlin]

i was eager to see this information, instead i got "truth in the pudding"

so i will do some reasearch and see if i can come up with what he is trying to say;)

and no i have not heard of dogon tribe.

[_neo2_]

try david icke.

[trumansho]

gremlin -u said



trumansho replied



have you heard of the dogon tribe?
was there a reason you were drooling?What do you know about to dogon tribe of mali?

[trumansho]

i was eager to see this information, instead i got "truth in the pudding"

so i will do some reasearch and see if i can come up with what he is trying to say;)

and no i have not heard of dogon tribe.
Do so and I hope your white supremacy ego don't get in the way when you discover that the dogon of mali knew about the star systems before the telescope was invented. They still finding out stuff that the dogon of mali knew thousands of years ago or more.

[anoninnyc]

Do so and I hope your white supremacy ego don't get in the way when you discover that the dogon of mali knew about the star systems before the telescope was invented. They still finding out stuff that the dogon of mali knew thousands of years ago or more.

this is an interesting topic and deserves a new thread. they weren't the only ones with great knowledge. it seems as if humans have actually devolved or at least lost most of our knowledge.

[_neo2_]

What do you know about to dogon tribe of mali?

I read and watch icke,i know about the dogon tribe.
i wanted to see gremlins response,as i suspected he didnt have a clue.

he came and trolled on a thread of mine,so i made it my buisness to
see what he was about.
didnt take long to show him up,first post i read.
any f**ker trolls me better have their shit together.

sorry,about that.

[trumansho]

this is an interesting topic and deserves a new thread. they weren't the only ones with great knowledge. it seems as if humans have actually devolved or at least lost most of our knowledge.

Who else had this great knowledge before the black Africans who were always in tune with their ancestors spiritually from the skies?



http://www.ufodigest.com/siriusb.html

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx114.htm

[synak]

Gremlin come claim your prize, you've earned it:

http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/moules/troll-or.jpg

[tb303]

Nobel Prize genius Crick (of Crick & Watson fame) was high on LSD
when he discovered (DNA) the secret of life

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/366125.shtml

Crick, who died ten days ago [2004-07-28], aged 88, later told a fellow scientist that he often used small doses of LSD, then an experimental drug used in psychotherapy, to boost his powers of thought. He said it was LSD, not the Eagle's warm beer, that helped him to unravel the structure of DNA, the discovery that won him the Nobel Prize.

Despite his Establishment image, Crick was a devotee of novelist Aldous Huxley, whose accounts of his experiments with LSD and another hallucinogen, mescaline, in The Doors Of Perception and Heaven And Hell became cult texts for the hippies of the Sixties and Seventies. In the late Sixties, Crick was a founder member of Soma, a legalise-cannabis group named after the drug in Huxley's novel Brave New World. He even put his name to a famous letter to The Times in 1967 calling for a reform in the drugs laws.


Interesting...

[gremlin]

Gremlin come claim your prize, you've earned it:

http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/moules/troll-or.jpg

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-055.gifcheers
for the award, its my second onehttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-059.GIF

[fist fury]

I thought we were smarter than this, falling for this illuminati sensitivity dogma. The scientist does have a point, as a group blacks, people of african ancestry, are less predisposed to be book smart. They can be adept in other fields, but not necesseraly hard science. We are all different, yet we share common traits with those we are related to.

[_neo2_]

maybe its just phallus envy from the phallic worshiping elite:confused:

[mountain]

I thought we were smarter than this, falling for this illuminati sensitivity dogma. The scientist does have a point, as a group blacks, people of african ancestry, are less predisposed to be book smart. They can be adept in other fields, but not necesseraly hard science. We are all different, yet we share common traits with those we are related to.

This is pure bullshit! I, myself have read hundredes of books and so have many of my coloured peers! Believe this and you are surely brain dead! All you have to do is use the internet wisely and notice that people all from different cultures know the truth about genetics! All of my asian and hispanic friends KNOW that their ancestors were of African descent or some black race. There is no need to keep debating about something we all know within. That our true eseence is a myriad of colors, a spectrum, a rainbow!

[anoninnyc]

Who else had this great knowledge before the black Africans who were always in tune with their ancestors spiritually from the skies?



http://www.ufodigest.com/siriusb.html

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx114.htm

well our current information would point to black africans being the first, but i was not getting into a debate over who was first. my point is that we as human beings have seemed to have regressed. what i am talking of is the many civilizations including some black civilizations, egyptian (probably a multi-racial society), mayans, the persian magi, etc. who all seemed to have even greater scientific knowledge as well as spiritual than what we have today.

[tb303]

If developing mechanized warfare, blitzkreigs and atomic weapons is a mark of intelligence, then perhaps white people are more intelligent.

[trumansho]

This is pure bullshit! I, myself have read hundredes of books and so have many of my coloured peers! Believe this and you are surely brain dead! All you have to do is use the internet wisely and notice that people all from different cultures know the truth about genetics! All of my asian and hispanic friends KNOW that their ancestors were of African descent or some black race. There is no need to keep debating about something we all know within. That our true eseence is a myriad of colors, a spectrum, a rainbow! exactly, that's why blacks were the ones who created the first university and the list goes on and on. This is apart of white supremacy to make blacks feel like we our worthless and only good at sports and entertainment. Like I said before the Europeans wouldn't have anything if it wasn't for us teaching them The Egyptians taught the greeks everything they knew. Europe was still in the dark ages while blacks had different civilization and not just Kemet. Fist fury, I can't believe you are falling for that illuminati white supremacy bs that's whites are more intelligent than blacks.

[alleendewaarheid]

utter nonsense!

hahahahaha

keep up the duality folks!

so silly!!! LOL!

[gremlin]

If developing mechanized warfare, blitzkreigs and atomic weapons is a mark of intelligence, then perhaps white people are more intelligent.

i totally agree, what about technology, the thing you are using to argue these points with, all white man made, transportation, design of the car, everyone loves what the white man has got and can afford, maybe its just envy, because in the end black white,pakistan, chinese, we all wanna rule the world. but as we know blacks turn their places of homes into ghettos and wanna go around shooting people because, maaaaan yoouu com fromm postcode se12 poseeee im se11 posee you must die. their is no getting away from this fact, why do black people limit there surroundings in a modern culture that says work you get money buy your things. and well give you houses to live in and still they gang bang, this is the problem of today. if they were all going round on lsd chilling out abit the world would be a better place. well especially london:D

[mynameis]

Limited access to wealth creates these disparites between rich and poor. It's never going to change unless stoopid gremlins can get over their own sterotypical bullshit, which they transfer or project onto other people for their own shortcomings ala carte.:rolleyes:



i totally agree, what about technology, the thing you are using to argue these points with, all white man made, transportation, design of the car, everyone loves what the white man has got and can afford, maybe its just envy, because in the end black white,pakistan, chinese, we all wanna rule the world. but as we know blacks turn their places of homes into ghettos and wanna go around shooting people because, maaaaan yoouu com fromm postcode se12 poseeee im se11 posee you must die. their is no getting away from this fact, why do black people limit there surroundings in a modern culture that says work you get money buy your things. and well give you houses to live in and still they gang bang, this is the problem of today. if they were all going round on lsd chilling out abit the world would be a better place. well especially london:D

[gremlin]

If everybody was rich who would do the necessary work? we would all be expecting someone else to do it, its a simple question i ask, but dont get an answer.

simple question, Why do blacks go around killing themselves? and limit their own territory? its a debating forum still isnt it?

just yesterday another kid 16 black was shot, WHY DO BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS, ARE the government supposed to hand out large amounts of cash and say "pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stop it" ?

[tiswas]

Why are we worried about the rantings of an about-to-be-dead DNA scientist, he will say this nonsense cos he is from the era of racist rubbish.
Anyone can be clever or stupid depends on themselves.

[mynameis]

Yes it's called having standards and well paying jobs, or haven't you been watching Lou Dobbs or David Icke. Problem, Reaction, Solution are the three modes these nuts like gremlins bring the people down under the control of the elites or rich, as you call them in the world. The reason they do, what you say they do, is because of these socioeconomic gatekeepers, who are mostly white. Since you're uncultured, I would also like to point out that not all blacks do what you think they do from your comments. Many go to colleges and work in offices. Own million dollar homes etc.


If everybody was rich who would do the necessary work? we would all be expecting someone else to do it, its a simple question i ask, but dont get an answer.

simple question, Why do blacks go around killing themselves? and limit their own territory? its a debating forum still isnt it?

just yesterday another kid 16 black was shot, WHY DO BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS, ARE the government supposed to hand out large amounts of cash and say "pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stop it" ?

[_neo2_]

If everybody was rich who would do the necessary work? we would all be expecting someone else to do it, its a simple question i ask, but dont get an answer.

simple question, Why do blacks go around killing themselves? and limit their own territory? its a debating forum still isnt it?

just yesterday another kid 16 black was shot, WHY DO BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS, ARE the government supposed to hand out large amounts of cash and say "pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stop it" ?

i could say why are whites more likely to be serial killers,paedophiles,start
wars.
but then i'd sound just as ridiculous as you.
a lot of blacks with white girlfriends in se london.that must kill you gremlin:)
have you got one?:D
try and get out and meet other races,not everyone has guns and is out to
kill.


get out from behind the sofa,turn sky news off,take your blinkers off
and stop being a puss.

[gremlin]

i can sense your smugness all the way down the telephone lines, just about how smug white women who go off with black men and think its really cool until the women gets pregnant and off the father goes and gets his other woman pregnant. OOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSS another stereotype.

Why are white women so smug when they go out with a blackman?

i dont have a problem with it if its true love then I DONT CARE, but when the system you hate so much has to provide the family with a house money because the father couldn't be bothered to hang around and take responsibility, ooooppppssss another stereo type, then yeah it annoys me.

i had a black work collegue who had 2 children, a wife a flat doing good until we were drinking in a pub and this white women came up and said i wanna sleep with you to his face, i thought well surely hes married and will turn her down, NOPE!! WENT BACK TO ONE OF HIS FLATS, which by the way had 3 of them empty which he had keys for all paid by the government i went around to each of them. kinda made me sick. but i swollowed my tongue other wise i would be RACIST!!

2 of my family have been killed by black people, this how ever doesn't make me racist because im a wise old duck, just pissed.

[trumansho]

i totally agree, what about technology, the thing you are using to argue these points with, all white man made, transportation, design of the car, everyone loves what the white man has got and can afford, maybe its just envy, because in the end black white,pakistan, chinese, we all wanna rule the world. but as we know blacks turn their places of homes into ghettos and wanna go around shooting people because, maaaaan yoouu com fromm postcode se12 poseeee im se11 posee you must die. their is no getting away from this fact, why do black people limit there surroundings in a modern culture that says work you get money buy your things. and well give you houses to live in and still they gang bang, this is the problem of today. if they were all going round on lsd chilling out abit the world would be a better place. well especially london:D

You're nothing but retarded asshole that don't make any sense at all if I was everybody I would ignore you like you don't even exsist.


http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/multiple_origins_of_humans_theor.htm

[gremlin]

so your being racist then?

[mountain]

i can sense your smugness all the way down the telephone lines, just about how smug white women who go off with black men and think its really cool until the women gets pregnant and off the father goes and gets his other woman pregnant. OOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSS another stereotype.

Why are white women so smug when they go out with a blackman?

i dont have a problem with it if its true love then I DONT CARE, but when the system you hate so much has to provide the family with a house money because the father couldn't be bothered to hang around and take responsibility, ooooppppssss another stereo type, then yeah it annoys me.

i had a black work collegue who had 2 children, a wife a flat doing good until we were drinking in a pub and this white women came up and said i wanna sleep with you to his face, i thought well surely hes married and will turn her down, NOPE!! WENT BACK TO ONE OF HIS FLATS, which by the way had 3 of them empty which he had keys for all paid by the government i went around to each of them. kinda made me sick. but i swollowed my tongue other wise i would be RACIST!!

2 of my family have been killed by black people, this how ever doesn't make me racist because im a wise old duck, just pissed.

Why do you feel this is a racial issue?? There are plenty of crimes where whites murder blacks, too! How do you justify this? Does your mentality see this kind of crime deserving? Men cheat on their wives and vice versa! Nothing to do with skin color, honey!

And how does one like you become a member of a site like this? Please explain.

[pollock]

so your being racist then?

No, just truthfull, it is not racists to dislike a person because he/she is full of bigotry crap!

F

[synak]

OMG Gremlin has totally swept the awards season this year, this is his third trophy! :eek:

http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/moules/troll-or.jpg

[mountain]

OMG Gremlin has totally swept the awards season this year, this is his third trophy! :eek:

http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/moules/troll-or.jpg

LMAO!!!!

[gremlin]

And how does one like you become a member of a site like this? Please explain.


This is an open forum for anybody, if you wanna create a pick and choose i suggest you go to the makers of this program and suggest a screening of those people you dont like be deleted. ah but that would be bordering on fascism, looks like someone has some strong views:D

[mountain]

This is an open forum for anybody, if you wanna create a pick and choose i suggest you go to the makers of this program and suggest a screening of those people you dont like be deleted. ah but that would be bordering on fascism, looks like someone has some strong views:D

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[logik]

The whole concept of blacks being kept down in America is bullshit.

I live in New York and any time I want can take a stroll past the DIRTIEST project house you ever want to see and there will be air conditioners in the windows and cable TV.

A pretty hard concept to come to grips with when you're used to blaming everyone else for your problems but I'll try anyway: If you're black and you live in America or the EU then YOU are the oppressor.

YOU.

You have most likely never missed a meal in your life and you will read this from a computer that 90% of the world could not afford to own or operate. Not to mention that it was assembled by slaves at great risk to their health.

If you are ANY color living in the western world then YOU are the oppressor.

You are largely outnumbered by people who struggle to eat and keep a shelter over their heads while you play with your computer, wear 70$ sneakers, eat like a king and spend the rest of your time complaining about how bad you have it, or working so you can afford all the luxuries you take for granted.

Lift the tag on your shirt and realize that you are rich and powerful compared with the slave who makes your clothes so you wont freeze or the slave who grows your food so you wont starve.

YOU are the rich, regardless of color.

You may not be rich compared to Dick Cheney but if you compared your situation to the rest of the world you may just sound a bit ungrateful.

[gremlin]

The whole concept of blacks being kept down in America is bullshit.

I live in New York and any time I want can take a stroll past the DIRTIEST project house you ever want to see and there will be air conditioners in the windows and cable TV.

A pretty hard concept to come to grips with when you're used to blaming everyone else for your problems but I'll try anyway: If you're black and you live in America or the EU then YOU are the oppressor.

YOU.

You have most likely never missed a meal in your life and you will read this from a computer that 90% of the world could not afford to own or operate. Not to mention that it was assembled by slaves at great risk to their health.

If you are ANY color living in the western world then YOU are the oppressor.

You are largely outnumbered by people who struggle to eat and keep a shelter over their heads while you play with your computer, wear 70$ sneakers, eat like a king and spend the rest of your time complaining about how bad you have it, or working so you can afford all the luxuries you take for granted.

Lift the tag on your shirt and realize that you are rich and powerful compared with the slave who makes your clothes so you wont freeze or the slave who grows your food so you wont starve.

YOU are the rich, regardless of color.

You may not be rich compared to Dick Cheney but if you compared your situation to the rest of the world you may just sound a bit ungrateful.

AAHHHHH SO YOUR ENVIOUS, you wish you were just like a rich man, money to burn bitches at your side, fast cars, but no your just ok in life, dreaming 1 day you will win the lottery ticket and be like the rest of these rich assholes.
The only one you suppress is yourself;)

[synak]

http://i22.tinypic.com/1z9200.jpg

[logik]

And make no mistake, its not WHITES who are more likely to be serial killers, pedophiles or war mongers, it is WESTERNERS.

And if you're reading this then YOU are most likely a spoiled westerner who has never experienced any kind of true suffering or struggle. Your closet is probably worth more than many homes in the developing world.

And we are ALL responsible for the killing spree of the west.

Every time you buy something you vote "yes" for the system.

Every time you pay a tax you put bullets into the guns of rich people who exploit poor people.

And every time you put gas in your car you fund oil drilling which forces indigenous off their land for use by the rich.

The last people in the WORLD who should be complaining are people of the rich western countries.

Maybe the ONLY thing black people in America have left to complain about is that they might not be allowed to eat the poor AS MUCH as white people do. But since you speak out against this type of thing you should want to eat the poor at ALL correct?

[logik]

AAHHHHH SO YOUR ENVIOUS, you wish you were just like a rich man, money to burn bitches at your side, fast cars, but no your just ok in life, dreaming 1 day you will win the lottery ticket and be like the rest of these rich assholes.
The only one you suppress is yourself;)

I AM rich fool. I live in America and thus want for NOTHING in life. Nothing NECESSARY anyway.

The whole point of my post was that WE ARE THE RICH. Any other way of looking at things is just mentally jerking off without the happy ending

[gremlin]

I AM rich fool. I live in America and thus want for NOTHING in life. Nothing NECESSARY anyway.

The whole point of my post was that WE ARE THE RICH. Any other way of looking at things is just mentally jerking off without the happy ending

you sound like the black one from The A-team B a barakus?http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/laughing-019.gif

[gremlin]

you can only change and influence people around you, nobody is ever gonna change anyone on here. but there have been some interesting points raised which i for one am glad:)

[anoninnyc]

i agree with logik

[gremlin]

ive never known a forum that has the wolves pack mentality, you think your going after sheep but all you are doing is backing each and everyone of yourselves up, i got a sheep, yes! "did you kill it", i did, lets go get another. its pathetic! on every level

[limelady]

I'm closing this thread as its doing little other than providing
a platform for rascist comments.