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yabs
16-06-2010, 03:28 PM
I have had more then enough
Please everyone who is in the UK or the US right now
would you please take to the streets and say enough with printing money
to save banksters
and enough of politicians being bribed by special interests
enough is enough
when is everyone going to wake up and really do something about this?

Those in the US you really need to demand the media be allowed in to see the fulkl extent of the spill
you need to demand right now that no more dispersants are used
please where is everyones back bone?

kaiser
16-06-2010, 03:33 PM
I will if you will! :D

trepidation
16-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Problem is, most people are under the illusion that they're in control and the goverment is accountable. They won't accept what you tell them because they don't want to accept that the control they cling to so dearly is nothing but a fabrication to placate them into accepting the shit that we're seeing right now.

martg
16-06-2010, 03:47 PM
I have had more then enough
Please everyone who is in the UK or the US right now
would you please take to the streets and say enough with printing money
to save banksters
and enough of politicians being bribed by special interests
enough is enough
when is everyone going to wake up and really do something about this?

Those in the US you really need to demand the media be allowed in to see the fulkl extent of the spill
you need to demand right now that no more dispersants are used
please where is everyones back bone?

I will if you will! :D

that's exactly right kaiser, a handful of scattered people taking to the street in isolation will have zero impact.

yabs, instead of coming on here and demanding action and berating people, why don't you organize some protests?

yabs
16-06-2010, 03:51 PM
unfortunately I do not live there any more
so no can do
I just have to watch amazed that noone does anything
meanwhile my life savings of pounds are being destroyed to save a few banks
but noone does a thing about it back in the Uk
truelly pathetic

kaiser
16-06-2010, 04:01 PM
unfortunately I do not live there any more
so no can do
I just have to watch amazed that noone does anything
meanwhile my life savings of pounds are being destroyed to save a few banks
but noone does a thing about it back in the Uk
truelly pathetic

Your life savings would be safe and very sound if converted to precious metals. Find a positive platform for your frustration and get those protests organised! I'm happy to help with banners etc :)

puckem
16-06-2010, 04:02 PM
unfortunately I do not live there any more
so no can do
I just have to watch amazed that noone does anything
meanwhile my life savings of pounds are being destroyed to save a few banks
but noone does a thing about it back in the Uk
truelly patheticexcuses - excuses. :cool:

kaiser
16-06-2010, 04:03 PM
I deal with my own personal frustration of the sheeple and the system by this single thoughtgroup:

Ive come to the conclusion that come any turmoil or crash alot of sheep are going to panic and die and theres fuck all I can do about it becasue if I offer my hand at the peak of trouble it'll probably get nored of by starving sheep and then I wont be able to wipe my own arse if I still have one.

I realsie this may seem negative and unloving at first but when a sheep is trained a sheep is trained and panic is an unlogical demon.

anath
16-06-2010, 04:10 PM
I have had more then enough
Please everyone who is in the UK or the US right now
would you please take to the streets and say enough with printing money
to save banksters
and enough of politicians being bribed by special interests
enough is enough
when is everyone going to wake up and really do something about this?

Those in the US you really need to demand the media be allowed in to see the fulkl extent of the spill
you need to demand right now that no more dispersants are used
please where is everyones back bone?

Ok so we take to the streets and we manage to persuade the politicians to stop bailing out the banks and then..... the fall out would be quite spectacular and not necessarily make life any better for anyone - we need a long term strategy to work to replace the current system.

phoenixe
16-06-2010, 04:27 PM
hey Yabs,

what have you done already?
why are you still posting on this forum when you should be out on the streets protesting ?

mh.. smells like "why does not anybody do something were I can join?"

itīs up to YOU - and anybody else - to do something on their own. not calling for others to start doing something..

oh, and excusions like "i donīt live there anymore so i canīt do something" donīt count!
you still have relatives/friends/other contacts over there, so provide them flyers and information, you can organize everything via email .. you want something to happen?

then DO something YOURSELF ! stop blaming others..

yabs
16-06-2010, 04:47 PM
kaiser
you obviuoulsy dod not hear about macguire the whistlblower who uncovered all the silvera nd gold manipulation by JPmorgan
they tried to kill him
I have some money in gold but they can manipulate the price thats what scares me

yabs
16-06-2010, 04:51 PM
hey Yabs,

what have you done already?
why are you still posting on this forum when you should be out on the streets protesting ?

mh.. smells like "why does not anybody do something were I can join?"

itīs up to YOU - and anybody else - to do something on their own. not calling for others to start doing something..

oh, and excusions like "i donīt live there anymore so i canīt do something" donīt count!
you still have relatives/friends/other contacts over there, so provide them flyers and information, you can organize everything via email .. you want something to happen?

then DO something YOURSELF ! stop blaming others..


I try all the time to enlighten people
they do not wnat to know
most think you are a freak just for suggesti ng 9/11 was an inside job
they get nagry about the banks for one millisecond then its back to football
I haver tried all my life to rally the troops but it never gets anywhere
people are just apathetic
I did organise a big meeting at work once but apart from me everyone was too scared to speak up
people take it like the bitches they are then moan about it in the pub but the nothing
thats whay I left
the english and the amaricans have to be the saddest bunch of people ever to walk the planet
take a a look at europe
they will not stand for it much more

kaiser
16-06-2010, 04:54 PM
kaiser
you obviuoulsy dod not hear about macguire the whistlblower who uncovered all the silvera nd gold manipulation by JPmorgan
they tried to kill him
I have some money in gold but they can manipulate the price thats what scares me

I havent actualy heard about macguire the whistlblower, got any linkys? Dont let it scare you mate why live in fear? Be happy you have some wealth and focus on what you can buy or barter for rather than what you cant.

timehasanend
16-06-2010, 05:01 PM
What we can all do realistically is make flyers. Each of us pass out and post hundreds, thousands in our own cities. This is a way to get the word out to oppose this New International Order.

I plan on getting creative and developing some flyers soon. I plan on posting them on bus stops, laundry facilities, parks, diners, school yards as many places as possible.

If we all focus on our cities, we can do a lot of exposure.

largejack
16-06-2010, 05:04 PM
I have had more then enough
Please everyone who is in the UK or the US right now
would you please take to the streets and say enough with printing money
to save banksters
and enough of politicians being bribed by special interests
enough is enough
when is everyone going to wake up and really do something about this?

Those in the US you really need to demand the media be allowed in to see the fulkl extent of the spill
you need to demand right now that no more dispersants are used
please where is everyones back bone?

I would BUT WHEREEEEE??? !!! All I see is flags and people watching football. And sadly most people I know, which is few, I wouldn't trust with a barge pole frankly

phoenixe
16-06-2010, 05:04 PM
as far as I can say - living in continental europe - most people here have no clue whatīs going on and wonīt go out on the streets, too.

so what can we do?
some people know that somethings wrong but are afraid to speak up as you mentioned.
donīt force them to speak up, just let the seed inside them, that they are right and the masses are wrong, grow.
how?
little things everyone can do, low cost, easy to apply:

- put a sticker on your car - people will talk to you about it! (own experience)

- print out your own "headlines" and put them on the newspaper boxes down at the streets corner very early in the morning, over the regular newspaper headlines!

print it in big letters, have a catchy phrase - everyone walking by takes a look there - maybe stops and reads the smaller sentence under the headline "you wonīt get more information in this newspaper - google "xxxxx" for more information". (or else, depends on YOU what YOU think is important for your neighbours to know).

there are enough headlines for days/weeks/months as there are many different topics people have to know about.

just 2 little ideas.. to make people think - and, whats most important, that they who already feel that somethings going wrong know:
they are not alone, not weird, no idiot conspiracy-seeker.

timehasanend
16-06-2010, 05:08 PM
After doing a quick search I found something for you.. Ebay link below.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/SOVEREIGN-FOREVER-NEW-WORLD-ORDER-NEVER-BUMPER-STICKER-/290367881680?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item439b4641d0

phoenixe
16-06-2010, 05:09 PM
@timehasanend:

flyers are too expensive for most of us to print, it takes time to hand them out, many donīt want to go out on the street on their own being regarded as "weird" handing out flyers with those topic.

thats why I postet a "how to" which is less expensive, takes less time, is seen by many people and no one must be the "crazy man on the street".

just think about every 2nd reader on this forum puts his own headlines in the newspaper box at his street.. that will be many "alternative headlines"..

and as far as I know, newspaper boxes are everywhere, UK, Spain, Germany..

just do it ! print your own headline today - and put it on the box tomorrow morning !

djhooker
16-06-2010, 05:11 PM
fight club - project mayhem.

timehasanend
16-06-2010, 05:20 PM
@timehasanend:

flyers are too expensive for most of us to print, it takes time to hand them out, many donīt want to go out on the street on their own being regarded as "weird" handing out flyers with those topic.

thats why I postet a "how to" which is less expensive, takes less time, is seen by many people and no one must be the "crazy man on the street".

just think about every 2nd reader on this forum puts his own headlines in the newspaper box at his street.. that will be many "alternative headlines"..

and as far as I know, newspaper boxes are everywhere, UK, Spain, Germany..

just do it ! print your own headline today - and put it on the box tomorrow morning !

That is a fine method. But for those who can afford 10cents a copy and can make 1000 copies, that's 10 dollars.

That is a dinner meal at your favorite diner. Either way, we all have diverse creative minds and that is how we should invest our ideas.

What works for one may not work for another, I agree. But let's all do what works for us, as long as we do something.

I am also looking into investing in a Bull Horn, they are also on ebay. They say you need a permit, I have yet to discover how to maintain one. But until then, I will chance it and use that bullhorn when I get the chance.

ellis_deatrip
16-06-2010, 05:35 PM
If people took to the streets in masses and instead of focusing on all the unlawful deeds the establishment has done ,everyone just shouts "I Don't Care Any More!" . That would probably scare these elitist mobsters more than any investigative movement. Seems to me a lot less divisive message for people across the board To voice their frustration.The various factions currently protesting , whichever group on whichever issue are secretly infiltrated and operated by Government agents and do nothing but create division and animosity. The U.S Militia movement, The 9-11 truth movement,end the Fed, and the tea party movement , etc, have all been hijacked and lead into becoming a subject of ridicule by the mainstream media,which creates a negative image in the public eye. It's simply controlled opposition, been around for decades.
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
≈Martin Niemöller 1946

verndewd
16-06-2010, 06:45 PM
The time is very near when we will all do this , yabs. have faith in the process.

shed7628
16-06-2010, 07:16 PM
I try all the time to enlighten people
they do not wnat to know
most think you are a freak just for suggesti ng 9/11 was an inside job
they get nagry about the banks for one millisecond then its back to football
I haver tried all my life to rally the troops but it never gets anywhere
people are just apathetic
I did organise a big meeting at work once but apart from me everyone was too scared to speak up
people take it like the bitches they are then moan about it in the pub but the nothing
thats whay I left
the english and the amaricans have to be the saddest bunch of people ever to walk the planet
take a a look at europe
they will not stand for it much more

I think if you want to communicate with the sheep (for lack of a better term) you have to be more subtle than just going hell for leather banging on about conspiracies these people quite naturally will think you are a fukin weirdo.

Where i work the place is full of sheep but most of the people are hard working good hearted people just trying to get through life just like us. If when I had started working there I had just been angry weird shouty man I would have just been the weirdo who has these crazy ideas and no one listens to.

I even made myself watch some of the empty mainstream programs just so I could input into conversations and Total Wipeout is fukin funny.

In my time there so far I have been able to explain what I think about the money and tax system.
I have shown how in my opinion there is no choice at election time.
The very slow approach works better for me people are more willing to listen to my opinions on things.

I suppose we may have different view and you think it is possible to over throw TPTB.

Imho every revolutionary movement was either instigated or taken over by TPTB and if they were truley ever on the point of collapse they would send the planet back to the stoneage and just start again.

For me this a really is a prison planet but once you realise this you gain so much freedom to see through their bullshit.

For me you cannot change the world you can only become the change you want to see.

phoenixe
16-06-2010, 08:06 PM
@ ellis_deatrip :

what did you do today?
did you print flyers and spread them?
did you talk to a stranger about whatīs wrong?
did you walk the street, wearing a shirt about whatīs wrong?

no ? well.. then itīs definately YOUR TURN to do something! NOW!

superearther
16-06-2010, 08:34 PM
All these bankers/wars is an illusion for the grand plan......
WATCH MY VIDEO

nibiru, cycles and the elite - YouTube

THIS IS THE REAL WAKE UP CALL PEOPLE NEED TO BE WOKEN UP TO.
the us government are creating underground bases one every 7 weeks.
They are shitting their pants. THIS WORLDWIDE DISASTER WILL HAPPEN.
I have been given information from videos and credible sources that has come from government insiders.

ellis_deatrip
17-06-2010, 02:39 AM
@ ellis_deatrip :

what did you do today?
did you print flyers and spread them?
did you talk to a stranger about whatīs wrong?
did you walk the street, wearing a shirt about whatīs wrong?

no ? well.. then itīs definately YOUR TURN to do something! NOW!
What the fuck? are you some sort of Intel agent? how did you know what i did? was the satellite tracking me? or what? If I were to tell anyone around here what I'm doing to help them , I'd be arrested.I made a few cash purchases today,one for quartz crystals from the only supplier within a 60mi radius.One was for the gasoline to get there. I'm in the process of making some orgone tower busters for the neighborhood cell towers. I have one thats a couple hundred yards from my window.(you know, the one you're looking at me through). While at the gas station I placed a sticker with the avatar that i'm currently using, on the gas pump. I'm not gonna go freak people out with "truth" mongering tactics, not with the amout of cops that are around here. Other than that , I really dont care if people figure it out or not, People are not gonna change cuz some info-mongering 'theorist' Shoved a piece of paper in their face, paper that was made from trees.A person has to WANT to change, learn, or 'wake-up'.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j100/yoshi667/th_ronald_mcdonald_jumping-3.gif (http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j100/yoshi667/?action=view&current=ronald_mcdonald_jumping-3.gif)
Or maybe you think I should get a bullhorn to be more effective? Maybe find some peaceful, organized protests, and disrupt them , cause more division.That's what you intel guys want to happen , right? :D:D:D

ogcheshirecat
17-06-2010, 04:11 AM
I get the feeling a vast majority of those flyers end up on the ground, which discourages me... I know it is discouraging when you suggest 9/11 was an inside job and they'd rather talk about football, but I'll give you some metaphors that may help. Not every key fits every lock, and you won't have the key to every lock. The lock is the apathy in the person's mind, 9/11 or poisonous vaccines or chemtrails or reptilian invaders from outer space... these are all keys. Some keys fit into certain locks in peoples' minds. If you try all the keys on a person's mind and none of them fit, oh well, look for locks in other peoples' minds that the keys may fit into. If they don't fit there, look elsewhere. If you gotta make new friends, or walk out of a party in disgust at peoples' ignorance, by all means do it man! FIND people who are interested and exchange ideas together. Those people will find more people, who will find more people, who will find more people, and it will all start to click. Stop holing yourself up and reading updates on your conspiracy sites and get out there and meet people. Stop hanging out with your old friends if their ignorance bothers you. If they ask why you don't hang out with them, tell them you're responding to a higher calling and if they're curious, go back to them and try your keys again. If they laugh at you, they're not much of friends now are they? When you're sending out a beacon of hope and trust in humanity's ability to wake up to the evil, you'll attract people into your life with the same ideas, but different enough to aid in your evolution. If you sit around thinking "these fools! They're being raped and do nothing about it!" then that's all you'll get, you'll only attract the sheep of the world. Basic law of attraction man, haven't you been studying? And this does not only apply to the OP, but to anyone who is losing faith in this. Faith man, it's what we ALL need more of, and as much as we can possibly get!

yabs
17-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I havent actualy heard about macguire the whistlblower, got any linkys? Dont let it scare you mate why live in fear? Be happy you have some wealth and focus on what you can buy or barter for rather than what you cant.

it doesn't scare me as much as make me angry
I have sold my soul a bit and lost big chunks of my life and sacrificed to get my wealth so I could live outside the matrix
and now that will be taken away
so i have to work in the matrix for longer
it just kills me

yabs
17-06-2010, 01:49 PM
kaiser

macguire here
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/03/news-coverage-of-maguire-car-accident.html

yabs
17-06-2010, 01:58 PM
I think if you want to communicate with the sheep (for lack of a better term) you have to be more subtle than just going hell for leather banging on about conspiracies these people quite naturally will think you are a fukin weirdo.

Where i work the place is full of sheep but most of the people are hard working good hearted people just trying to get through life just like us. If when I had started working there I had just been angry weird shouty man I would have just been the weirdo who has these crazy ideas and no one listens to.

I even made myself watch some of the empty mainstream programs just so I could input into conversations and Total Wipeout is fukin funny.

In my time there so far I have been able to explain what I think about the money and tax system.
I have shown how in my opinion there is no choice at election time.
The very slow approach works better for me people are more willing to listen to my opinions on things.

I suppose we may have different view and you think it is possible to over throw TPTB.

Imho every revolutionary movement was either instigated or taken over by TPTB and if they were truley ever on the point of collapse they would send the planet back to the stoneage and just start again.

For me this a really is a prison planet but once you realise this you gain so much freedom to see through their bullshit.

For me you cannot change the world you can only become the change you want to see.


agreed
I have tried the slow approach or even make them laugh and respect you then bring it out in a forecful way ie state it like its a fact
that works sometimes to get people thinking
remember the human psyche
everyone wants to fit in
If it became uncool to think that 9/11 wasn't an inside job imagine that

Like you just say soemthing like
"you know you still get some idiots that belive the official story of 9/11"
if it became a fashion not to belive then that would gain momentum
then you have to get people onot the idea that the FED and BOE is private
they are stealing your wealth
it could gain momemtum but its so hard to acrry on and fit in isn't it?
I don;t want to duscuss crap that i see as not important
I don't even see my job as important
just see it AS SOMETHIng i have to do to get money
but everyone takes their jobs so seriously
for me i don't give a f*ck as long as i get paid and do as little as possible

phoenixe
17-06-2010, 03:44 PM
really big LMAO !!!

holy shit... truthseeking really makes some people paranoid.. oh, I forgot, itīs the icke-forum.. ;)

hey ellis, itīs about 6000km distance between us if "city of angels" means LA.
so, eh- no, I am not looking through your window..and btw, I am no intel agent, too.

what the heck are you so afraid of, talking about "getting arrested and so many cops around?" - fear is what TPTB want to spread ..
concerning what youīve written (as I donīt know you personally) - their plan is really good working!

cops are just humans as you and me!

stop being afraid of them - "make friends" - and awake them, too!

ellis_deatrip
18-06-2010, 06:20 PM
really big LMAO !!!

holy shit... truthseeking really makes some people paranoid.. oh, I forgot, itīs the icke-forum.. ;)

hey ellis, itīs about 6000km distance between us if "city of angels" means LA.
so, eh- no, I am not looking through your window..and btw, I am no intel agent, too.

what the heck are you so afraid of, talking about "getting arrested and so many cops around?" - fear is what TPTB want to spread ..
concerning what youīve written (as I donīt know you personally) - their plan is really good working!

cops are just humans as you and me!

stop being afraid of them - "make friends" - and awake them, too!

Must be the English/American humor paradigm again. Please don't take me so seriously. satirical cynicism. Don't worry, I never figured out what was so funny about Monty Python, either. ;)