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tracker
14-06-2010, 02:37 PM
( For the meek minded , week spirited , or faint hearted , or even abusers ,FYI , any captial lettering or bolding and sizing of grammar is not shouting , it is just a formative way to high light important areas and also makes a good easy way for referencing the page )


Have any of you suffered MOST of these situations?
Have you ever gone out , in to a town centre , a bar maybe , and wondered , why do you feel the impression that many people around you seem to , all know something ?
Or , that people around you that you have never met , seem to be offish for no reason ( this can and does happen naturally from time to time for may of us but I am talking about a frequent occurrences )
You might have been in a bar for a while , you have seen that there are not many at the bar so you approach to get a drink , the barman has seen you there and through the look on his face you know that he has acknowledged you being there and indicates through his body language that you are next to be served .
Two men then turn up next to you whilst the barman has his back towards you , he then turns around , ignores you and serves them , leaving you looking a bit bewildered.

Have you experienced these situations ? ( not now and then , I am talking about quite often because this can happen from time to time , we’ve all had that one in the past , but think carefully please , does it happen often ?)

Have you often thought , that sometimes when you go out and meet people through your friends or relatives , it could even be a lover , that quite often those you are introduced to seem to be offish when introduced ?
Maybe some kind of odd smile or comment like “Oh this is such and such pleased to meet you” but not long after , its like your friends or family begin to form a circle that pushes you out , and when you try to take part you are often and very quickly ignored , joked at , or given the cold shoulder ?
It could happen this way;
In front of this gathering , a friend/lover/family member might ask you a question , but as soon as you begin to answer , they suddenly turn their back on you or ignore you and start talking to the group , as though it was malicious .

What happens then , is some day you go out in the same place , and some people around you , even though you feel you do not know them , also seem offish , of you might catch the odd glance of another person who has given a funny odd smile as though laughing at you but trying to keep it quiet.

Have you ever experienced these situations before ?

Now think carefully before reading the next part .

On top of these things , going out feeling many people around you who you don’t even know have some kind of unbeguiling outward intention towards you for no reason , do you also experience these situations .( remember ! this must happen also with that hyperthetical situation above )





In public ;
Your family/lover or friends Publicly embarrass you or humiliate you ,
from friends/family or a lover , a display of intellectual, social and emotional dominance ?

Mostly this takes place in front of an audience , most of the situations will take place especially in front of your friends , it will cause humiliation to you in front of your friends making the situation more acute .
A hard fact to face might be , that then your friend joins in with those who do this and or will agree with them on their points .

In Private;
You receive , verbal aggression , emotional blackmail , forced feelings of shame , guilt , personal inadequacy . Character put downs etc.
This kind of situation usually takes place in private , it can come from friends or family , partner.

Covert,
Do you feel some how that under Covert; some one is rumour mongering, gossiping some how , or you feel that false accusation have been made about you ,
Also , you might experience a type of recruitment of proxy attackers from friends or relatives .

This is important !
recruitment of proxy attackers.

This is done in such a way , that they may put you down , belittle you , or be offish in such a way , that they act and do this beneath your thresh-hold of defence and retaliation but enough so that others around you can see it .
It’s done in such a way , that if you defend your self , politely or otherwise , it could make you appear as though you are being over the top , or taking it to heart , or always taking things the wrong way .
This is how the “recruitment of proxy attackers.” Is done , it recruits others around you to think the same as those who do it to you .

But can also the next time round

often make the person feel as though , sometimes people they have never met already seem to know them , but have an offish attitude towards them before a formal conversation takes place .
Mainly because , strangers who may have been recruited through stealth , have also socialised that day to others , who also now have a good idea of how to treat you and be towards you the next time round .

This is how

going out to that place , or a town centre can have its side affects upon you from strangers you have not met .
Like a spiders web , the so called conspiracy grows .

Before you know it , it could feel as though , people in your town all hate you for no reason , or many have a strange way of acting towards you for no reason .
It’s a web that grows , and because it would be almost impossible to know ever face around you every time this happens , it will inevitable grow beyond your perception which is why , you could go to that bar , and now even the barman practically might ignore you , as though on purpose even AFTER you know damned well he saw you and indicated that you are next to be served .

What is happening to you ?

Yes these are traits of gangs talking ,because gang stalking is a multi million £/$ industry .

BUT

Is it really gang stalking ?

99;99% of the time -------------ITS NOT GANG STALKING !

Do you want to know what is happening to you ?

If I tell you , would you promise your self , not to get angry at me for telling you ?

I would appreciate it if you would ,

Because the sad truth of the fact is this , not forgetting that you must experience most of these triats.

ITS NOT GANG STALKING !

YOU ARE A VICTIM -------OF--EMOTIONAL/MENTAL ABUSE !

Yes , you could be a victim of abuse .

It stand more chance of you being mentally and emotionally abused from your own family and friends or lover , than being that special that the government black ops are creating plans around you .

Other tactics can be done upon you

1 ) your car keys go missing

2 )Misplaced or moved objects around the house only by a few inches , so that you feel some one has been in your house,

3 ) letters go missing

4 ) bills not being paid and surprise turn ups from bailiffs

5 ) partner or family always seem to accidentally not be able to do that all important favour right at the last minute

6 ) Always being made to feel bad about wanting to do something for your self like a course or hobby.

7 ) a sudden increase o money demands just when you wish to buy something for your self

8 ) answer machines being wiped from messages

9 ) typical abusers in public will start replies or conversation with such comments
“are you saying?”
“What you are trying to say is”
And they will the put words in to your mouth that you never said , but will say it in a polite undertone about and towards you and then give reasons why they say it , pushing you into a corner of defence , that then makes you appear some how over the top , defencive , or taking things too hard.

10 ) THE "I WAS ONLY DOING IT FOR YOU" excuse.
Yes , some how , some way , these abusers always have you in mind , they take decisions and actions that will definately affect you life , for them self , and then complete that action in such a way , it always seems to work against you in the long run .
their excuse wil always be
"I thought it was best for you"
"I did it only for you"
"I was trying to do you a favour"
and when you tell them ( no matter how politely you do it ) they will resort to making you feel bad about it like the folowing emotional abuse tactics
"Well I aint doing anything for you any more you ingreatful wtazit"
"How dare you say that to me I was only trying to help"
"you dont deserve anything , I was only trying to help , if thats your responce you can get lost"

Yet some how , they always have another excuse to do it again .
These are just a few tell tail signs of mental abuse !

You will feel like your loosing your mind which will then make you feel more dependant upon your partner or family etc .
If you start to ask “WHY” , that is the danger zone , because “WHY” is not important !
IF this is happening to you , it is not “WHY” that is important because it will not serve you any justice trying to find out “WHY”
It is the “NOW” that it “IS” happening that you must face , because to ask why , will only have you in a loop of abuse and confusion with your self .
Your reason will battle with emotions , and you will not stop it , it will indeed make you even more dependent on those people because you will adopt “I can change them” or “They can change” mind trap for your self .

I have absolutely no doubt that gang stalking does take place , mainly through ignorance , but it is my strong conviction that gang stalking can be part of ------------emotional and mental abuse that spider webs outward .

This spider web , then takes off on its own , forcing you back to those you depend on , which could be , the very people who started this all off and still use all those tactics above ( private/public/covert)

Remember
The truth about this situation can be much harder than the pain inside to accept.

Just remember this too .
Gang stalking is a multi million $/£ industry who can and will make money from you .
I have my self been victim to situations like those above and for a while went in to the big brother and gang stalking trap .

YOU will NOTICE that some gang stalking web sights talk about “CRITICAL THINKING” yet NEVER mention that ignorant selfish bullies only need a simple peace of bait to bite on , they will grow upon that and make mountains out of mole hills , I am sure you agree , but how do they get this impression ?
What starts it off ?

I know that kids can be a pain in the but at times ( we have been in the past )but true gang stalking can start , from other means , like rumours , gossip , and even
AS mentioned before;


Public embarrassment or humiliation ,
from friends/family or a lover , a display of intellectual, social and emotional dominance ?

Mostly this takes place in front of an audience , most of the situations will take place especially in front of your friends , it will cause humiliation to you in front of your friends making the situation more acute .
a hard fact might be , that then your friend joins in with those who do this and or will agree with them on their points .

Covert,
Do you feel some how that under Covert; some one is

spreading
Rumour mongering, gossip , false accusation , recruitment of proxy attackers.

This is important !
recruitment of proxy attackers.

This is done in such a way , that they may put you down , belittle you , or be offish in such a way , that they act and do this beneath your thresh-hold of defence and retaliation but enough so that others around you can see it .
Its done in such a way , that if you defend your self , politely or otherwise , it could make you appear as though you are being over the top , or taking it to heart , or always taking things the wrong way .
This is how the “recruitment of proxy attackers.” Is done , it recruits others around you to think the same as those who do it to you .

After enough time has gone buy , those who do this can sit back and let the abuse run it self in natural webs , thus
In the end
Strangers seem to have it in for you , people act strange around you
So what do you do ?
You go back and rely on those who spun that web .

This is the FACT that all GANG STALKING sites , do NOT take in to account !

So


I hope this has helped you because what I don’t want , is an abused confused person , have a multi million £/$ industry , make money on their insecurities and miss fortunes , because it will fuel and create more intense troubles for you .

You see , Gang stalking can and does happen , its just another way of saying “Wide spread emotional and mental abuse”.
Because even strangers can be abusers you know .
It does happen .
Don’t get pulled in to the conspiracy trap of gang stalking sites that never tell you what I have just told you , because I have not seen one sight that has told you this information yet many CLAIM to have critical thinking behind their information.


If you feel , that I have some how , given you some kind of relative information

Please seek professional advice

I can give you a link , on this link read the page and then go to the bottom of the link and press the blue “NEXT {AGE” button.



http://www.mentalabuse.org/tech2.asp

So , are you being gang stalked ?

Gang stalking ? It’s Probably closer to home really.


Kind regards

The tracker.

:cool:

armoured_amazon
14-06-2010, 03:02 PM
Another great post, Tracker :)

yeah
14-06-2010, 03:04 PM
Ok, i've had all of theses things happen to me for fookin yr's.
I'll try not to bore any-one too much, the bottom line was it was me that started it and me that ended it.

Basically i turned my back knowingly on my good true self ( i was much younger at the time and sick of the shit, shit and more shit in humanity, and stupidly thought if i tried to fit in stop wanting the best for everyone stopped loving so deeply, just like most of society then i'd be ok jack)
Many yrs later I got the chance to be me again ( a do or die situation )
I got real, remembered who i really was, and fooked off all the bad shit in my reality, as in people that we're killing me almost virtually.
That was nearly ten yrs ago and, yeah there are moments i come under attack for lower energies still.
But hey, if that didn't happen i wouldn't be typing on an agro CONspiracy site, i'd have ascended to something else.

nectars
14-06-2010, 04:03 PM
No offence but is this a pi$$ take?

Seriously... A "victim"? What a crock; way to go on spreading false fear and paranoia though, I'd give it 5/5 for that.

Considering some of your former posts dude I'd have thought you were more aware and moved away from the "scapegoating" mentality.

"YOU ARE A VICTIM -------OF--EMOTIONAL/MENTAL ABUSE !"

Your feelings, your thoughts, your perception; your decision to allow whether or not the actions etc of others has any effect on you. Take some personal responsibility for what you're being.

forrest22
14-06-2010, 04:20 PM
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http://freeyourbrain.net/default.htm

curtaincat
14-06-2010, 05:34 PM
No offence but is this a pi$$ take?

Seriously... A "victim"? What a crock; way to go on spreading false fear and paranoia though, I'd give it 5/5 for that.

Considering some of your former posts dude I'd have thought you were more aware and moved away from the "scapegoating" mentality.



Your feelings, your thoughts, your perception; your decision to allow whether or not the actions etc of others has any effect on you. Take some personal responsibility for what you're being.

nectars, Tracker has been feeling pretty crappy lately, if u have read his other post about Walking Away.

Thanks for that great post Tracker, heaps on here, including me will be grateful for it, and identify with it. I know what you mean.

Chin up, Tracker, we do love you :) Remember that!

I have a strange day coming up this week, so I will remember what u said. I am sure it will help me get thru it.
I gotta remember what someone told me... "act as if all is right, say it is alright and it is.... and a few hours later, the crap is over" .... so, that is what i will do.

And in a few days, I will probably even forget the crappy day that is yet to come. :eek::p

unenlightened_waffle
14-06-2010, 06:34 PM
Have you ever heard of the word paranoia?

This is quite simply the most insane post of escaping reality that I have ever heard, people will act strange to you if you are paranoid, it is simple - life, it attracts what you need to face.

These things happen so that you can become strong in yourself, yes people do act this way to other people because they are scared and you react because you are scared!

If this has ever not happened to you then you are not human. This is the process of life to make you stronger.

When you learn to be confident in yourself and not scared of what people think, these things will not bother you.

I agree with the poster above.... is this a pi$$ take???????

nectars
14-06-2010, 08:56 PM
nectars, Tracker has been feeling pretty crappy lately, if u have read his other post about Walking Away.

That I honestly didn't know, so all I can say is appologies if it came across more harsh than was intended. As I did point out though, I generally consider tracker to have a more grounded understanding of these things which I guess took me a bit by surprise.

Anyway hope alls going ok dude.

Since I've not read the thread curtaincat's refering to I'll take a guess. I'll PM you something that will help level you off if done sincerely.

tracker
14-06-2010, 09:57 PM
Another great post, Tracker :)

I am trying to help women and men alike.

I do not deny that TPTB play games on people , and I am not denying that MK Ultra are still about etc etc , I am just trying to show that not all of us are that special that it takes a whole secret society to play games on our lives .

some times , it starts

at home .

its just another thing to consider.

is my opinion .

thank you Armoured Amazon for your compliment.

:)

tracker
14-06-2010, 09:58 PM
No offence but is this a pi$$ take?

Seriously... A "victim"? What a crock; way to go on spreading false fear and paranoia though, I'd give it 5/5 for that.

Considering some of your former posts dude I'd have thought you were more aware and moved away from the "scapegoating" mentality.



Your feelings, your thoughts, your perception; your decision to allow whether or not the actions etc of others has any effect on you. Take some personal responsibility for what you're being.


What I am being ?

I dont understand , unless you mean that I should take personal responsability for helping others use critical thinking .

otherwise

I am trying to help women and men alike.

I do not deny that TPTB play games on people , and I am not denying that MK Ultra are still about etc etc , I am just trying to show that not all of us are that special that it takes a whole secret society to play games on our lives .

some times , it starts

at home .

:)

tracker
14-06-2010, 09:59 PM
nectars, Tracker has been feeling pretty crappy lately, if u have read his other post about Walking Away.

Thanks for that great post Tracker, heaps on here, including me will be grateful for it, and identify with it. I know what you mean.

Chin up, Tracker, we do love you :) Remember that!

I have a strange day coming up this week, so I will remember what u said. I am sure it will help me get thru it.
I gotta remember what someone told me... "act as if all is right, say it is alright and it is.... and a few hours later, the crap is over" .... so, that is what i will do.

And in a few days, I will probably even forget the crappy day that is yet to come. :eek::p


:)

you are a good person CC , no doubt about that .

tracker
14-06-2010, 10:04 PM
That I honestly didn't know, so all I can say is appologies if it came across more harsh than was intended. As I did point out though, I generally consider tracker to have a more grounded understanding of these things which I guess took me a bit by surprise.

Anyway hope alls going ok dude.

Since I've not read the thread curtaincat's refering to I'll take a guess. I'll PM you something that will help level you off if done sincerely.

Do not think you have to tread around me on flowers .

I do not hold anything against you because of many reasons here is why

1 ) the internet can not offer an atmosphere
2 ) the internet can not offer body language
3 ) the internet can not offer the intent
4 ) the internet can not offer a smile / or a frown , or a look of being puzzled etc
5 ) the internet can not give that all important human touch


thus

no worries , I will tell you though what i said before above this post.

I do not deny that big brother/MK ultra or TPTB can play with your life , hell I should know tyhis because i have made threads on it
I just think , that an alternate angle of critical thinking is a "must have" when conserning these situations is all , otherwise

maybe it might help me if people could post other articals regarding emotional and mental abuse , hell many of us have all gone through it and it will do this forum justice to help those going through it .

thank you for your recent support .

Much apreciated .

:)

tracker
15-06-2010, 09:24 AM
Ok, i've had all of theses things happen to me for fookin yr's.
I'll try not to bore any-one too much, the bottom line was it was me that started it and me that ended it.

Basically i turned my back knowingly on my good true self ( i was much younger at the time and sick of the shit, shit and more shit in humanity, and stupidly thought if i tried to fit in stop wanting the best for everyone stopped loving so deeply, just like most of society then i'd be ok jack)
Many yrs later I got the chance to be me again ( a do or die situation )
I got real, remembered who i really was, and fooked off all the bad shit in my reality, as in people that we're killing me almost virtually.
That was nearly ten yrs ago and, yeah there are moments i come under attack for lower energies still.
But hey, if that didn't happen i wouldn't be typing on an agro CONspiracy site, i'd have ascended to something else.


thank you for your recent support .

Much apreciated .
:)

olas
16-06-2010, 09:40 PM
take a look at this site


http://freeyourbrain.net/default.htm

...impressive.

ufochick
21-06-2010, 01:45 PM
Hmmm, I am confused. How are those here defining gang stalking? Someone in another post just said the thread had turned into gang stalking, I didn't see anything going on at all. IF I was included in his post (I am not sure I was) I had not communicated with any of the other posters about the topic in any way, nor mentioned the poster who said it was stalking to anyone else at all.

In the first part of the OP's post he talked about people ingnoring you or you being put out of the group. That usually comes from our own energy. We are treated the way we subconsciously wish to be treated, or how we think we deserve to be treated.

I can easily be ignored, it happens frequently that people just don't really see me, I have to increase my etheric body energy/aura or they literally run me over not realizing I am there. I think it's because I have purposefully raised my vibration rate. (ever notice how we always are aware of anyone who is angry? they are putting out denser/slower energy) But I don't think it's purposefull. If someone cuts in a line I politely say "I believe I was next".

I think a lot of people are just not paying attention these days and live in a little world of their own. MP3 players, internet phones, cell phones, the social networking sites all ten to keep us in our own head and break down our need for real human to human communication. I think they are meant to.

Anyway I have yet to see what I thought was a real case of "gang stalking". But maybe I am defining it wrong.

tracker
21-06-2010, 02:30 PM
Hmmm, I am confused. How are those here defining gang stalking? Someone in another post just said the thread had turned into gang stalking, I didn't see anything going on at all. IF I was included in his post (I am not sure I was) I had not communicated with any of the other posters about the topic in any way, nor mentioned the poster who said it was stalking to anyone else at all.

In the first part of the OP's post he talked about people ingnoring you or you being put out of the group. That usually comes from our own energy. We are treated the way we subconsciously wish to be treated, or how we think we deserve to be treated.

I can easily be ignored, it happens frequently that people just don't really see me, I have to increase my etheric body energy/aura or they literally run me over not realizing I am there. I think it's because I have purposefully raised my vibration rate. (ever notice how we always are aware of anyone who is angry? they are putting out denser/slower energy) But I don't think it's purposefull. If someone cuts in a line I politely say "I believe I was next".

I think a lot of people are just not paying attention these days and live in a little world of their own. MP3 players, internet phones, cell phones, the social networking sites all ten to keep us in our own head and break down our need for real human to human communication. I think they are meant to.

Anyway I have yet to see what I thought was a real case of "gang stalking". But maybe I am defining it wrong.

My idea for this thread came from an unexpected turn in my life .

What I am trying to say is that "Gang stalking" is just another name for collective abuse .

collective abuse is nothing new , in my school days I was collectively abused by many kids , it soon spread , years after it was all over town .

I couldnt even go out through fear of some one having a go at me , and yes all those gang stalking tactics and dis info tactics are used by gang land bullies / collective abuse , gang stalking .

gang stalking is a new name for collective bullying , that so happens to make many of millions of pounds , the gang stalking markets who sell people all these silly ideas of what is what and how is a multi million £/$ undustry .

most bullies hang in gangs , when that spreads it does become gang stalking .

All this MK Ultra stuff ? is bullshit .

yes they existed and probably still do , but the simple joe etc etc just aint their idea of good subject to harrass.

its all bullshit .

most things that start playing on your life mostly come from a source closer to home is my idea behind this thread .

I hope I have explained it clearer here , its never easy on the internet I am sure you understand .:)