New Book : New Conspiracy?

[_tzupidity]

The following information is public information that I have accessed legally and you can all access yourselves if you want to. By sharing it here I am saving you the £1 cost of doing so and I am not breaching any legislation or revealing personal information or sensitive company information. Just so we're all clear. =]

As we all know, the release of Ickey's new book has been long awaited by many of us and during the pre-launch hype many got excited. Do you remember the threads trying to guess what it might be about? Yup, the forum even got a whole new shiny section.

And so we waited for the big day and when it came we got excited and went to our bookshop of choice and something odd happened. No books. It's been a while now and even the biggest book retailers like Amazon, WHSmith and TheBookDepository still have no idea if/when they'll get copies.

Except for one, very small, very new book company.

On the 14th of January this year (2010) a man named Stephen Hodgkiss registered a new limited company to sell books, run from a small office in Shropshire.

So what makes him special? Well, Amazon are now the largest most high tech and well equipped book sellers in the known universe. Mr Hodgkiss rents one small room in a large shared office building.

Amazon has no Icke books, Hodgkiss has many.

Yes, he's the guy selling them on ebay for £99.99 a copy.

So how did this happen? Did this one guy suddenly decide to go into book selling a few months before the Icke book came out, place an order then get lucky when the much larger companies and even local bookstores failed to get any, allowing him to then inflate his price by 500% and make £80 profit on each book (assuming he paid full retail which is unlikely).

Talk about a lucky set of coincidences right at the start of your new business. And during an economic meltdown, too!

Hang on though. This is the DIF and as we all know;

"I don't believe in coincidence theories." -David V. Icke

Any thoughts?

[_tzupidity]

Could this be the same man? He has the same name and age.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/3758921.Couple_who_ran_brothel_face_jail/


Couple who ran brothel face jail


A HIGH-FLYING businessman and his Thai mistress are facing jail for setting up a brothel only months after her massage parlour was closed by police.
Wealthy management consultant Stephen Hodgkiss funded the Darlington viceden for Waraporn Dodds, who took all the money made by her girls by legitimate means and sent it back to her family.
A court heard yesterday how the prostitutes charged £25 for a 40-minute massage – all of which went to Dodds – and only made cash for themselves if they provided “extras”for customers.
The unusual lifestyle of 44- year-old balding businessman Hodgkiss merged at Teesside Crown Court after he and his 38-year-old lover pleaded guilty to keeping a brothel.
It was revealed that the £80,000-a-year computer expert has a wife in Thailand, but lives with Dodds in an upmarket suburb of Newcastle, effectively as man and wife.
Ian West, prosecuting, told Judge Christopher Prince that the couple also have a young child, who is looked after by relatives of Dodds thousands of miles away in her native country.
The court heard how Dodds sent the money she made from the Major Street brothel to her mother, while Hodgkiss used his earnings to maintain his wife in south-east Asia.
The couple’s activities emerged when police raided the property in February and discovered it had been used illegally since the tenancy was taken out in June 2006.
The investigation revealed that Hodgkiss had taken out the tenancy, furnished it, set up utility bills in his name and advertised services in a national newspaper.
Within three weeks of him signing a lease on the house, Hodgkiss had also made bulk orders with a company called Condom Tom, and bought more towards the end of September.
Hodgkiss claims he initially thought his partner was setting up another massage parlour, but accepts he became aware it was a brothel soon afterwards.
Mr West told the court: “We say it is absolutely plain that he was setting these premises up as a brothel from the start. The premises was established as a brothel from day one.”
The couple, of St George’s Terrace, Jesmond, Newcastle, will be sentenced at Newcastle Crown Court next month, after probation service officials prepare background reports.
[...]




In case you're wondering, they couldn't prove how much he made so he never had to pay a penny back.


Another Coincidence?

[cosmo1]

This could be interesting...

I pre ordered the book from an online book etc outfit here in NZ ages ago. It was supposed to have been despatched around the time that others in the UK were receiving theirs but i keep getting emails saying that they haven't received it themselves yet, and they give me a date as to when i may expect it; that date keeps changing.
The latest one is the 27th of this month.

I am not angsting about it - anticipation is half the pleasure lol, but what you have posted is interesting tzupidity.

[darryl84]

You have to be stupid to buy the book for 100 quid when you can get it from the DI website shop. :D

[_tzupidity]

The only thing more stupid than paying an inflated price when the book is available elsewhere for less, is buying them to sell and inflating the price way in excess of the other suppliers.

Unless you have very good information that supply will be restricted for a good while. Otherwise, the day after you put yours out for £99.99, WHSmith could get there's in and be selling them at £15.

So, is this guy profoundly stupid or does he have inside information?

How come his company just popped into existence during the run up to the book release?

How come he was able to get hold of multiple copies of the book when most are struggling to just get one?

Why does he have the confidence to inflate the price by 500% when the lowest online price is a touch under £15? Takes big cojones to take a risk like that unless it's not a risk at all.

If it's not all a huge coincidence and a mixture of Luck, Timing and Stupidity/Cojones on Mr Hodgkiss' part, then someone inside the Icke camp must be involved.

I've worked for a good few charities and I can tell you now that the kind of people attracted to work for them, Ickey and other 'fringe' organisations; are usually untrustworthy and either looking for a springboard to 'greater things' or access to a certain group of people.

What do we actually know about Team Icke? Has anyone ever checked them out? Do we even know who they are? Given the tradition of the Brotherhood to infiltrate every group, doesn't it make sense that at least one of them is 'shady'? Danny Wallace is the outside handler, but who is on the inside?

For the record: I'm not suggesting that Icke himself is directly involved. I really can't see him risking his reputation to squeeze an extra few hundred quid out us. Say what you want about our Icke but he's definitely not stupid.

[passing]

Tzupidity, I think with your last post you might be getting a bit carried away.
...but many thanks for the rest!!! :)

[seanx]

The following information is public information that I have accessed legally and you can all access yourselves if you want to. By sharing it here I am saving you the £1 cost of doing so and I am not breaching any legislation or revealing personal information or sensitive company information. Just so we're all clear. =]

As we all know, the release of Ickey's new book has been long awaited by many of us and during the pre-launch hype many got excited. Do you remember the threads trying to guess what it might be about? Yup, the forum even got a whole new shiny section.

And so we waited for the big day and when it came we got excited and went to our bookshop of choice and something odd happened. No books. It's been a while now and even the biggest book retailers like Amazon, WHSmith and TheBookDepository still have no idea if/when they'll get copies.

Except for one, very small, very new book company.

On the 14th of January this year (2010) a man named Stephen Hodgkiss registered a new limited company to sell books, run from a small office in Shropshire.

So what makes him special? Well, Amazon are now the largest most high tech and well equipped book sellers in the known universe. Mr Hodgkiss rents one small room in a large shared office building.

Amazon has no Icke books, Hodgkiss has many.

Yes, he's the guy selling them on ebay for £99.99 a copy.

So how did this happen? Did this one guy suddenly decide to go into book selling a few months before the Icke book came out, place an order then get lucky when the much larger companies and even local bookstores failed to get any, allowing him to then inflate his price by 500% and make £80 profit on each book (assuming he paid full retail which is unlikely).

Talk about a lucky set of coincidences right at the start of your new business. And during an economic meltdown, too!

Hang on though. This is the DIF and as we all know;

"I don't believe in coincidence theories." -David V. Icke

Any thoughts?

And what would have stopped me or you or anybody doing that too?

I could have gone to the dave icke forum - so could you and pre-ordered
100 - a thousand copies.

A million copies - as I would had to pay up front for them.

This guy, I presume is banking on the fact that all small publishers
sell from their own site first - to maximize profits - before making it
available to all the really big retailers because it reduces your
profit.

As for this guy, he must be pretty stupid - or think most People
are if he thinks people won't google a product before they buy
- and see they can buy it for for the retail price from icke's own
forum

I think mR tzupidity you are reading too many conspiracy books!

[seanx]

How come he was able to get hold of multiple copies of the book when most are struggling to just get one?

Where did you get that idea from.

I run a business. If you come to me and pre-order with full payement
a million copies of my product- heck, I'll get a million copies printed
and distributed to you.

You've already paid me - so there is no risk for me.

You're taking all the risk in hoping to sell them at a higher price
before it becomes available in all the bookstores etc.

[seanx]

You have to be stupid to buy the book for 100 quid when you can get it from the DI website shop. :D

Exactly.

Especially when most people now will 'google' a product before they
buy.

it's a strange practice.

[_tzupidity]

[...]

I think mR tzupidity you are reading too many conspiracy books!

Wow, normally you accuse me and everyone else of not reading the books. This is a complete turnaround for you Sean.

Where did you get that idea from.

I run a business. If you come to me and pre-order with full payement
a million copies of my product- heck, I'll get a million copies printed
and distributed to you.

You've already paid me - so there is no risk for me.

You're taking all the risk in hoping to sell them at a higher price
before it becomes available in all the bookstores etc.

That would all be true if the book was released as they said it would be. Amazon, WHSmith etc, still don't have their copies. Why is that? The only people who seem to have them are a few that ordered from this website and this guy. That's the only reason he's been able to inflate the price so much.

Let's assume then, that he bought them from this website. Wouldn't whoever is incharge of here think, "Hang on, why is this person buying so many copies? Obviously he's going to re-sell them."
Are you suggesting that the Icke Staff knowingly took books away from genuine readers and sold them to a re-seller knowing it'd cost the reader more money? That doesn't sound very Icke to me.

[seanx]

Wow, normally you accuse me and everyone else of not reading the books. This is a complete turnaround for you Sean.




That would all be true if the book was released as they said it would be. Amazon, WHSmith etc, still don't have their copies. Why is that? .

I take it you can read???

Why don't they have their copies!!

let's try again.

All small publishers sell from their own site first - to maximize profits -
before making it available to all the really big retailers because it reduces your profit.

IT'S NOT rocket science. It's called good business.

The only people who seem to have them are a few that ordered from this website and this guy. That's the only reason he's been able to inflate the price so much.

And your point is??

You could have done the same thing.

All pre-orders have to be paid upfront. Why wouldn't icke
or any businessman sell their book to companies who pay
the full retail priceupfront?


Let's assume then, that he bought them from this website. Wouldn't whoever is incharge of here think, "Hang on, why is this person buying so many copies? Obviously he's going to re-sell them."

How do you know how many he brought? 10 -20 -50??

What does it matter if he is willing to pay the full retail price?

Amazon won't. They'll want a huge discount to sell it.

This guy if he is selling at this price is abviously just
a cheap con man.

Though, not a very intelligent one.

Are you suggesting that the Icke Staff knowingly took books away from genuine readers and sold them to a re-seller knowing it'd cost the reader more money? That doesn't sound very Icke to me

You don't understand business, do you?

If you pre-pay me in time , I can then print as many copies as
you want. With the right time and money upfront - there is no
limit.

As for the other question, how in God's name would Icke's staff know
what everyone is going to do with their book??

Talk sense.

[itsallinus]

No your all wrong. He his Icke's biggest fan and wanted to buy loads of his books so Icke might agree to meet him. By selling them for 100 quid people would google and find it cheaper from the source and snap them up for such a bargain.

In reality, it just shows what a numpty he his, not very good business sense really. He would do a lot better selling for a small profit. He might actually sell a copy or two then.

[_tzupidity]

I take it you can read???
[...]
All small publishers sell from their own site first - to maximize profits -
before making it available to all the really big retailers because it reduces your profit.
IT'S NOT rocket science. It's called good business.
[...]
All pre-orders have to be paid upfront. Why wouldn't icke
or any businessman sell their book to companies who pay
the full retail priceupfront?
[...]
You don't understand business, do you?
If you pre-payme in time , I can then print as many copies as
you want. With the right time and money upfront - there is no
limit.
As for the other question, how in God's name would Icke's staff know
what everyone is going to do with their book??
Talk sense.

Ah here we go, a return to true form. SeanX the 'pro-icke' agent.

Icke is not meant to be a capitalist. He's meant to be against globalisation and money he says is false. He puts us (his readers/fellow researchers) first. We all know that right? Is anyone willing to claim this isn't true?

Yet here is Sean, king of the Agents saying that Icke should act like a capitalist because he himself would and does!

As for the Icke staff. You should give them more credit. As someone claiming to be in 'business' you seem to be lacking some fundamental business concepts. If I sell books, then most people will only want one copy. Maybe if they're buying for friends they'll buy up to 5. Any higher than that and you know you're dealing with a re-seller. That means Usury, which, again, Icke claims to be against.

Yet you're claiming that David Icke and his staff either didn't realise or did realise and didn't care. They let a load of books go to a re-seller which meant genuine readers; a) would have less copies available to buy directly; and b) would eventually have to pay over the odds from the reseller. If you are correct then Icke is lying about not being the same as every other 'salesman'.

You're also claiming that Icke intentionally didn't let Amazon et al get their copies on time because he wanted to make more profit. Amazon et al took pre-order payments based on the promise that they'd send the book on the release date. They didn't and it will have cost them all business and reputation. You're saying Icke did this on purpose to maximise his own profits? As a 'businessman' you clearly know that this would leave him open to prosecution by all the sellers he's deliberately caused losses to.

Who's side are you on again? :rolleyes:

[seanx]

Ah here we go, a return to true form. SeanX the 'pro-icke' agent.

:

How sad is that.

I point out the complete nonsense of your post from a business point
of view - so now naturally I'm a icke agent!!

What in God's name is a pro-icke agent on the icke forum?

You may have good research skills but little common sense.




Icke is not meant to be a capitalist. He's meant to be against globalisation and money he says is false. He puts us (his readers/fellow researchers) first. We all know that right? Is anyone willing to claim this isn't true?


What childish dribble.

if I spent up to a year working day and night to complete a book, I'd
want to mazimize my profits too, especially since it is my living.

You guys must think Icke doesn't have to pay gas bills or electricity
bills!!

Yet here is Sean, king of the Agents saying that Icke should act like a capitalist because he himself would and does!

More childish stuff.

Tell me mate how do you pay your bills - or do you let the state
take responsibilty for you.


As for the Icke staff. You should give them more credit. As someone claiming to be in 'business' you seem to be lacking some fundamental business concepts. If I sell books, then most people will only want one copy. Maybe if they're buying for friends they'll buy up to 5. Any higher than that and you know you're dealing with a re-seller. That means Usury, which, again, Icke claims to be against.

Give them credit??

You are the one accusing them of fraudalent behaviour. Read
your first post.

How do you know how many copies this guy brought? So what
if he is willing to pre-pay the full price?

What idiot is going to pay him £100 for a book? This is obviously
a con.


Yet you're claiming that David Icke and his staff either didn't realise or did realise and didn't care. They let a load of books go to a re-seller which meant genuine readers; a) would have less copies available to buy directly; and b) would eventually have to pay over the odds from the reseller. If you are correct then Icke is lying about not being the same as every other 'salesman'.

You don't understand the concept of pre-paid orders. How would
less copies be available.


You're also claiming that Icke intentionally didn't let Amazon et al get their copies on time because he wanted to make more profit. Amazon et al took pre-order payments based on the promise that they'd send the book on the release date. They didn't and it will have cost them all business and reputation. You're saying Icke did this on purpose to maximise his own profits? As a 'businessman' you clearly know that this would leave him open to prosecution by all the sellers he's deliberately caused losses to.


Grow up into the real world.

There is absolutely nothing wrong - in fact it is always advisable to give
your OWN members first choice to purchase your book.

That's why people here could pre-order the book - and they were told
that they would be the first to recieve it - they would recieve
first preference.

Why are you making such a big deal out of something that is common
business practice on every website in the world.





Who's side are you on again? :rolleyes

[_tzupidity]

bleugh


Oh pipe down. The only acceptable excuse for people like you is Autism. Outside of that I'm all for labour camps and high street euthanasia bars.

I'm just so bored of you and your kind. Blah blah blah insult blah blah blah condescension blah blah blah jews.

You're not good enough to earn my Masonic Order for Condescension but in honour of you I'm initiating a period of zero tolerance. I'm rescinding my veto on ignore lists and embracing the 2.0 superpower of removing you and those like you from my reality. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll have enough to join in the games of "Show us your ignore list". Your ignorance inspires me.

[seanx]

Oh pipe down. The only acceptable excuse for people like you is Autism. Outside of that I'm all for labour camps and high street euthanasia bars.

I'm just so bored of you and your kind. Blah blah blah insult blah blah blah condescension blah blah blah jews.

You're not good enough to earn my Masonic Order for Condescension but in honour of you I'm initiating a period of zero tolerance. I'm rescinding my veto on ignore lists and embracing the 2.0 superpower of removing you and those like you from my reality. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll have enough to join in the games of "Show us your ignore list". Your ignorance inspires me.

Pitiful.

Grow up.

if your cat winked at you, you'd suspect him of a mass conspiracy
against you.

[subl1minal]

You guys must think Icke doesn't have to pay gas bills or electricity
bills!!


Of course he doesn't.


He doesn't have to pay to travel to all the countries he talks in, he doesn't have to pay for the accommodation or food to feed himself, hell he doesn't even have to pay to have his books published, he doesn't have to pay to keep this website up and running - :rolleyes:

[john white]

tzupidity = hodgkiss ?

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

After all, don't have to actually SELL a book on ebay for 100 quid:

Just list one for instant "drama in a tea-cup"

And what a perfect way for tzupidity to have all this "inside gen" if all he has to do is tell himself about it...

[_tzupidity]

tzupidity = hodgkiss ?

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

After all, don't have to actually SELL a book on ebay for 100 quid:

Just list one for instant "drama in a tea-cup"

And what a perfect way for tzupidity to have all this "inside gen" if all he has to do is tell himself about it...

Nice theory! You could also point out that my DIF account was registered in the same month as the company in question. Dun Durn Duuurrrrn. You should write a book about it, delay the release and send me a few copies to sell for £99.99. I'll give you... ...33%.

[mitch_lane]

how do you know that this guy has actually got the books he claims to have?. Have you been a dingbat and actually bought one from him for 99 quid?

[krakhead]

The question was asked on ebay - "why are the books so expensive", here's the reply -

selinasbooks: This is temporary while prices are adjusted and new stock gets entered into our system. The item is available to buy but this means that the price is about to be greatly reduced. We suggest that you 'Watch' the item, as we update our prices everyday.

[_tzupidity]

how do you know that this guy has actually got the books he claims to have?. Have you been a dingbat and actually bought one from him for 99 quid?

Don't be soft, as if I'd pay that much.

Why would he pretend to have them? Apart from the fact that he'd get in trouble with Ebay and Paypal, there's UK law and the fact he's trading as a Limited Company. He would have to be one of the dumbest people walking the earth. The advert also states that there are more than 10 copies available btw.

As soon as Icke Ltd started promoting the book and it became available to pre-order from the likes of Amazon et al, Ickes supporters duly started to pre-order themselves a copy. They're still waiting.

People have stated that Icke has spare copies of the book that he was selling at Brixton. This proves that more copies were delivered to Icke Ltd than were pre-ordered from this site. They're sat in boxes somewhere right now.

Why hasn't Icke Ltd handed over their surplus stock to the retailers who have pre-orders so Icke's supporters can have their book?

Isn't it the information and the truth seekers that are important?


Or is this about Ego and Money? Because they've ordered from someone other than Icke Ltd, they're now being punished. You can buy it from him or you can pay £99.99 to the only other person with them for sale.

There is one other possible scenario. As some people have claimed for a while, Icke could be one of the NWO puppetmasters. If you all have to buy from his site then he has all your names, addresses and bank account details. Who would want a list of all the truth seekers?

Is this not why Icke tells us to not support the cashless society and to buy anonymously with cash from bookshops? So why is he blocking us from doing it?!

Until Icke releases a statement that explains what has happened to this book launch and what is being done to set it right, then we're left to postulate our own theories.

[john white]

What utter gobshite

Who gives a damn what some sap tries to flog things for on Ebay?

But your ego wants to drag Icke into it and make a big drama OOOOOOOO

Grow up Tzupidity, get over yourself and stop being a child

There is better shit to give a damn about

[_tzupidity]

What utter gobshite

Who gives a damn what some sap tries to flog things for on Ebay?

But your ego wants to drag Icke into it and make a big drama OOOOOOOO

Grow up Tzupidity, get over yourself and stop being a child

There is better shit to give a damn about

I'm not attacking Icke. Icke et al teach us to find things that don't add up then try to come up with a theory that explains it. Noone should be immune from this if you're a 'truth seeker'.

If you disagree with my theory then propose your own.

It is very common on here for so called 'truth seekers' to act just like religious fanatics. Rather than proposing an alternative theory you just want to attack the person with the theory because you don't like it.

Doesn't Icke call people like that Sheep Dogs? Oh look, the sheep are going the wrong way, start barking and showing your teeth.

The double standards within the 'truth community' are risible.

[john white]

Lol no, your using a forum to masturbate

Utter non problem but, ohhhh makes you feel special

Wank on old son

[_tzupidity]

Lol no, your using a forum to masturbate

Utter non problem but, ohhhh makes you feel special

Wank on old son

You + Are = You're.

As I said, if you disagree with my theory then propose your own. You haven't, you're pleasuring yourself on a forum by accusing me of pleasuring myself on a forum.
Thank you for demonstrating how projection works but I'd prefer posts that add value.

[john white]

What like "new book: new conspiracy oh look no there isn't one its just some guy flogging stuff on EBAY oooo run around panic oh look at me I'm tzupidity I'm IMPORTANT DAVID ICKE PAY ATTENTION TOOO MEEEEEEEEEE"


LOL

[_tzupidity]

What like "new book: new conspiracy oh look no there isn't one its just some guy flogging stuff on EBAY oooo run around panic oh look at me I'm tzupidity I'm IMPORTANT DAVID ICKE PAY ATTENTION TOOO MEEEEEEEEEE"

LOL


I see.

So you still have no alternative theory to offer that explains why the book was delayed and no reason has been given.
You can't explain why the only two places you can buy the book from are Icke Ltd and mr 500% inflation on ebay.
You can't explain why the biggest book sellers on the planet mysteriously can't get hold of copies despite offering them for pre-order in the belief they would get them.
And all of this despite Icke saying for the last few months that it's his most important and monumental work to date that we all must read if we're to save ourselves?

You also haven't mentioned any part of my theory that you disagree with and your reasons for disagreeing with it.

All you have is the blanket belief, 'It's all crap' and your evidence consists of assumptions you've made about some stranger on the internet that you've never met, delivered in the manner of primary school child insults.

"I can't explain why you're wrong, you just are so neeer".

And people wonder why truth seekers are seen as nutcases by the masses. I bet the NWO are really scared with people like you on Team Freedom.

[nirvana]

Most of should know by now the biggest incentive in the truth movement Is capital .
And of course these days to feed the ego.
But that Is human nature.
The best capitalists are pro anti capitalists.

[john white]

Yeah yeah Tzupidity, cry on

Who cares why Amazon hasn't got copies? Who cares if anyone is thick enough to give Mr Ebay 100 quid?

Anyone bothered can just buy one from Icke central

End of

So just take your fake "I'm not having a go at David I just want to suggest he is a Cunt" elsewhere

Maybe go visit one of those high street euthanists you endorse?

[seanx]

_tzupidity;1058981155]I see.

So you still have no alternative theory to offer that explains why the book was delayed and no reason has been given.


No, the explanation has been given - but you don't understand
it.

or, more accurately, you don't want to understand it.

A child with even rudimentary knowledge of business studies would
understand it!!

As for your ebay friend, I would bet he hasn't even got a single copy!!

it's a classic con.

Throw out a bait and see if any morons 'bite'. And if they did, he
simply orders himself from Icke central.



You can't explain why the only two places you can buy the book from are Icke Ltd and mr 500% inflation on ebay.

Don't be so naive. This guy is a con artist. You believe everything these
guys tell you. As for ebay, it is riddled with frauds!

You can't explain why the biggest book sellers on the planet mysteriously can't get hold of copies despite offering them for pre-order in the belief they would get them.

Again there is nothing mysterious. As is clearly stated on this forum for months now ..first preference
on the first print run will go to icke members on this forum who pre-order......and everyone else will have to wait.

Again a moron with no brain cells could understand this.

What part of this is still causing you problems??


And all of this despite Icke saying for the last few months that it's his most important and monumental work to date that we all must read if we're to save ourselves?

And what's stopping you? The book was easily and effortlessly
avaialble from this website.

What could be easier?

You also haven't mentioned any part of my theory that you disagree with and your reasons for disagreeing with it.

Mr White clearly didn't respond because your theory is so stupid
and naive that, in truth it doesn't merit a response.

I don't know myself why I'm wasting time responding to this nonsense!

Here's a clue for everyday life; Con-men lie. They tell untruths!
They tell you they have things they don't have in order to con you!!

They're looking for mugs.

As the saying goes, there is a mug born every minute.

A com-man's job is to find these mugs.

[_tzupidity]

Yeah yeah Tzupidity, cry on

Who cares why Amazon hasn't got copies? Who cares if anyone is thick enough to give Mr Ebay 100 quid?

Anyone bothered can just buy one from Icke central

End of

So just take your fake "I'm not having a go at David I just want to suggest he is a Cunt" elsewhere

Maybe go visit one of those high street euthanists you endorse?

*yawns*

Y'know, if you use double quotes, it signifies that you are directly quoting someone. As I didn't say what you've quoted me as saying, that makes you a liar. And yes, I will use high street shops because paying in cash and remaining anonymous is one of the few ways we can fight the cashless society and control systems.

You're still trapped into this blind belief that I'm wrong without being able to demonstrate why you think that, nor can you accept that the possibility exists that I'm right. Instead of logic you use insults and lies.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the kind of behaviour that Alex Collier, Val Valerian and The Matrix people tell us to look out for because it is the best way to identify Matrix Agents and Organic Portals?

No matter what part of the Truth Movement they come from, All Truth Movement Researchers agree on one thing. The NWO work by infiltrating existing groups. All groups including brotherhoods, religions, businesses and political groups -we are told- have been infiltrated. So why not the Truth Movement? Would we not be their number one priority?

Here am I exploring truth. I could be right, I could be wrong, but aslong as we keep asking questions it doesn't matter. Being willing to 'connect the dots' no matter where it may lead is the sign of a true Truth Seeker.

I gave you several chances to act like a truth seeker and you have failed to do so. You just have lies, insults and noise.

I now declare you an Organic Portal or Matrix Agent. That's two I've exposed in this one thread. And like Agent SeanX you now belong to my Ignore list.

There's a reason there are so many infighting, bitching, hate and sex abuse threads on this forum. Distraction. It's time for true truthseekers to fight back and take back the truth movement. Seek out the agents and identify them so we can discuss any possible truth as mature spirits without descending into fear and hate. Otherwise we're pretty screwed.

[john white]

Your a cheeky fucker I'll give you that

We both know you wouldn't be buying Icke's book anyway

Unless you could palm 'em on Ebay for £100 a pop

[seanx]

*yawns*

Y'know, if you use double quotes, it signifies that you are directly quoting someone. As I didn't say what you've quoted me as saying, that makes you a liar. And yes, I will use high street shops because paying in cash and remaining anonymous is one of the few ways we can fight the cashless society and control systems.

You're still trapped into this blind belief that I'm wrong without being able to demonstrate why you think that, nor can you accept that the possibility exists that I'm right. Instead of logic you use insults and lies.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the kind of behaviour that Alex Collier, Val Valerian and The Matrix people tell us to look out for because it is the best way to identify Matrix Agents and Organic Portals?

No matter what part of the Truth Movement they come from, All Truth Movement Researchers agree on one thing. The NWO work by infiltrating existing groups. All groups including brotherhoods, religions, businesses and political groups -we are told- have been infiltrated. So why not the Truth Movement? Would we not be their number one priority?

Here am I exploring truth. I could be right, I could be wrong, but aslong as we keep asking questions it doesn't matter. Being willing to 'connect the dots' no matter where it may lead is the sign of a true Truth Seeker.

I gave you several chances to act like a truth seeker and you have failed to do so. You just have lies, insults and noise.

I now declare you an Organic Portal or Matrix Agent. That's two I've exposed in this one thread. And like Agent SeanX you now belong to my Ignore list.

There's a reason there are so many infighting, bitching, hate and sex abuse threads on this forum. Distraction. It's time for true truthseekers to fight back and take back the truth movement. Seek out the agents and identify them so we can discuss any possible truth as mature spirits without descending into fear and hate. Otherwise we're pretty screwed.

Hilarious stuff!!

[cosmo1]

*yawns*

And like Agent SeanX you now belong to my Ignore list.

There's a reason there are so many infighting, bitching, hate and sex abuse threads on this forum. Distraction. It's time for true truthseekers to fight back and take back the truth movement. Seek out the agents and identify them so we can discuss any possible truth as mature spirits without descending into fear and hate. Otherwise we're pretty screwed.

Gee _tzu, dídn't think you were the sort to use the ignore list ;); and do you mean true truthseekers or maybe shitestirrers...:p:D

[nicolaj]

Most of should know by now the biggest incentive in the truth movement Is capital .
And of course these days to feed the ego.
But that Is human nature.
The best capitalists are pro anti capitalists.

:D How right you are

[_tzupidity]

Gee _tzu, dídn't think you were the sort to use the ignore list ;); and do you mean true truthseekers or maybe shitestirrers...:p:D

I didn't use the ignore list for ages. I don't have any problem with trolls or fools aslong as they're funny or original. You don't get to the truth by taking yourself seriously. But, the people that just say the same things over and over bore me. I've only got 5 people on there though, so I'm still being generous.

And as the truth is often hidden betwixt layers of shit, sometimes what you need is a good stir!

[guuna]

went to three branches of waterstones on Friday. Not one had a copy.:mad:

[cosmo1]

I didn't use the ignore list for ages. I don't have any problem with trolls or fools aslong as they're funny or original. You don't get to the truth by taking yourself seriously. But, the people that just say the same things over and over bore me. I've only got 5 people on there though, so I'm still being generous.

And as the truth is often hidden betwixt layers of shit, sometimes what you need is a good stir!

Once again i'll ask; what is truth? And how does one know that what they think is truth, is?

According to this forum, there are thousands of versions of truth, and each individual trying to hammer their version of it into others :rolleyes:.

[mitch_lane]

John White wrote:

Your a cheeky fucker I'll give you that

We both know you wouldn't be buying Icke's book anyway

Unless you could palm 'em on Ebay for £100 a pop

funny but true; this is a non issue made out to be something by _tzupidity's own ego. Icke has done nothing wrong here other than try to maximise the potential returns on the book that he has printed at his own expense, not through some giant publication arm. The book will eventually appear on the bookshelves of other outlets, I'm sure. Not sure about W H Smith ('cos they're wank) but Waterstones have certainly carried all his other books since The Biggest Secret and amazon too. Also, is it not fair that Icke should return the support that he gets by making the book available first to those who have pre-ordered with him directly from his site?
_tzupidity is looking for a conspiracy where there isn't one, which is fucking rich considering what he sometimes has to say about Icke, and if anybody did buy one of those books for that inflated price then I'm not even sure that they are the type of person that would be interested in a word that Icke has to say, or wouldn't understand what he has to say anyway.

[_tzupidity]

[...]_tzupidity is looking for a conspiracy where there isn't one [...]

I don't want to appear fussy, but I never actually suggested there was a conspiracy. I presented some facts that appeared to be overly 'coincidental' and then invited people to share their thoughts, given that 'coincidence theories' are frowned upon.

All the hostile posts contain hostility that the posters brought with them. They forced their own agendas and love of insults into this thread like they do on other threads. I just make mine juicy enough to get a few of them to bite so I can add them to my list.

A 'Truth Seeker' is not afraid of discussing any topic. Only those with a vested ego need to seek confrontation and create barriers to restrict thought and inquiry.


[...]which is fucking rich considering what he sometimes has to say about Icke[...]

I've only done what Icke himself does. Connecting the dots. I can make up a conspiracy from circumstancial evidence and even if it 'works' as far as joining the dots goes, 99% of people will assume I'm taking the piss. If Icke or Alex Jones said the same thing you'd form an action group and insist that a new book be written. My burning jesus statue theory is probably the best one so far. I partially believe it myself.

[mitch_lane]

no?
well the title that you gave to the thread is certainly suggestive, at least:

New Book : New Conspiracy?

you seem to be wanting to have your cake and eat or more likely just performing to true troll nature.

[_tzupidity]

no?
well the title that you gave to the thread is certainly suggestive, at least:

you seem to be wanting to have your cake and eat or more likely just performing to true troll nature.

How so? The title clearly says "New Conspiracy?" not "New Conspiracy!". Are you sure it's not just a case of people seeing what they want to be there so they can have the kind of argument they want?

I'm not sure what you mean by having my cake and eating it. I know what the phrase means but not how it applies here. And as for Trolling; if you say I am then I am to you, that's your choice. Every poster on this forum is somebody's Troll.

[seanx]

I don't want to appear fussy, but I never actually suggested there was a conspiracy. I presented some facts that appeared to be overly 'coincidental' and then invited people to share their thoughts, given that 'coincidence theories' are frowned upon.

All the hostile posts contain hostility that the posters brought with them. They forced their own agendas and love of insults into this thread like they do on other threads. I just make mine juicy enough to get a few of them to bite so I can add them to my list.

A 'Truth Seeker' is not afraid of discussing any topic. Only those with a vested ego need to seek confrontation and create barriers to restrict thought and inquiry.



I've only done what Icke himself does. Connecting the dots. I can make up a conspiracy from circumstancial evidence and even if it 'works' as far as joining the dots goes, 99% of people will assume I'm taking the piss. If Icke or Alex Jones said the same thing you'd form an action group and insist that a new book be written. My burning jesus statue theory is probably the best one so far. I partially believe it myself.

The real truth is you made a complete fool of yourself.

And now you're trying to cover your tracks!! I don't blame you!

You don't understand the simple practicalities of the business
of publishing - and from that lack of knowledge and ignorance
-you spun a story that was totally ridiculous.

Truth seekers need not only the ability to research - but they also must
have basic common sense!

[masonicboom]

I already have my copy from davidicke.com. I pre-ordered because I had a feeling it wouldn't be in stores in the US for a loooong time.
I didn't think the same would apply as much to the UK though.

Anyway, I couldn't find the listing you were talking about on eBay (US), but I went to eBay UK and found the 99 pound listing. OMG - FREE SHIPPING !!

I have gone ahead and ordered 7 copies from him and will be selling them on the US eBay for $299.00 each.

Just a heads up for anyone that doesn't have a copy yet -

WAIT FOR ME TO GET THEM FROM HIM, THEN BUY ONE FROM ME.

The extra cost will make reading it more enjoyable. Think of it that way.

;):rolleyes:;)
:eek:

[passing]

I have gone ahead and ordered 7 copies from him and will be selling them on the US eBay for $299.00 each.

The extra cost will make reading it more enjoyable. Think of it that way.


How much more for one with a faked signature?

[mitch_lane]

I quoted you as trying to have your cake and eating it exactly because you used the question mark at the end of your thread title; you're trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any whilst claiming that you were merely asking a reasonable question. That was not your intent behind the thread which was, in fact, your cute little way of having a go in passing at Icke. That's also one reason why you are a troll.

[_tzupidity]

How much more for one with a faked signature?

Ebay don't allow signed ones, I already checked :(

[...] you're trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any whilst claiming that you were merely asking a reasonable question. That was not your intent behind the thread which was, in fact, your cute little way of having a go in passing at Icke. That's also one reason why you are a troll.

I recognise this. This is when someone knows me better than I do and they know what my thought processes and intentions are. Sometimes I forget where I am and think it's a Knitting Forum then some psychic mofo pops up and reminds me I'm in IckeWorld. How would we survive without your kind?!

You're doing that repetative cycling thing that Agents do now. It's like an infinite loop.

I have observed the processes of your kind on this forum and I now present the 5 Step Challenge System most used by Agents who are alledged to be allegiant to The Icke and have no valid challenge to a thread that sets off their little red Termintor eyes. Present these challenges and you should be ok!

1. Have you even read the books?
2. Oh, you have, then um... ...clearly you dont understand them!
3. Oh you do, well then clearly you're an idiot sheep!
4. Oh, you're not, then clearly you're a COINTELPRO Troll!
5. If still unsuccesful, repeat challenges 3 and 4 remembering to alternate and rephrase so you blend in with the humans.

Notice, reader, how at no point do the thoughts, "Could my data be incorrect?" or "Have I misunderstood?" come in to their thought process. Nor even a 'Clearly, we're not going to agree, so let's agree to disagree'.

No independent thought or deviation from programming = Agent. It says so in the Matrix books and other such sources including right here on the DIF.

Maybe we should have an Agent Amnesty or something?

[seanx]

Ebay don't allow signed ones, I already checked :(



I recognise this. This is when someone knows me better than I do and they know what my thought processes and intentions are. Sometimes I forget where I am and think it's a Knitting Forum then some psychic mofo pops up and reminds me I'm in IckeWorld. How would we survive without your kind?!

You're doing that repetative cycling thing that Agents do now. It's like an infinite loop.

I have observed the processes of your kind on this forum and I now present the 5 Step Challenge System most used by Agents who are alledged to be allegiant to The Icke and have no valid challenge to a thread that sets off their little red Termintor eyes. Present these challenges and you should be ok!

1. Have you even read the books?
2. Oh, you have, then um... ...clearly you dont understand them!
3. Oh you do, well then clearly you're an idiot sheep!
4. Oh, you're not, then clearly you're a COINTELPRO Troll!
5. If still unsuccesful, repeat challenges 3 and 4 remembering to alternate and rephrase so you blend in with the humans.

Notice, reader, how at no point do the thoughts, "Could my data be incorrect?" or "Have I misunderstood?" come in to their thought process. Nor even a 'Clearly, we're not going to agree, so let's agree to disagree'.

No independent thought or deviation from programming = Agent. It says so in the Matrix books and other such sources including right here on the DIF.

Maybe we should have an Agent Amnesty or something?

What complete dribble.

They say empty vassels make the most noise.

How true!

[nirvana]

I didn't use the ignore list for ages. I don't have any problem with trolls or fools aslong as they're funny or original. You don't get to the truth by taking yourself seriously. But, the people that just say the same things over and over bore me. I've only got 5 people on there though, so I'm still being generous.

And as the truth is often hidden betwixt layers of shit, sometimes what you need is a good stir!

Once again i'll ask; what is truth? And how does one know that what they think is truth, is?

According to this forum, there are thousands of versions of truth, and each individual trying to hammer their version of it into others :rolleyes:.

Truth Is subjective Its what ever you want it to be. :)

[cosmo1]

[QUOTE=cosmo1;1058984323]

Truth Is subjective Its what ever you want it to be. :)

Yes :)

[passing]

Tzupidity banned eh? I missed that one...

[gabeygoat]

why's he/she banned?

[cosmo1]

He/she was good entertainment value; a master manipulator and a shit stirrer extraordinaire.

I bet anything you like he/she will be back here under a different guise soon. Likes an audience too much to stay away :D

Look up his stats and see his posts; though i know a lot of them got erased. He liked to have a 'go' at David a lot - trod a fine line.

[i_am]

As per Forum Guidelines, moderation issues are not discussed with anyone other than the member involved and they are most certainly not discussed on the Forums :)

As _tzupidity is no longer a member here, then this thread can be closed.