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mynameis
17-10-2007, 03:25 AM
Video shows fatal shooting at traffic stop

By JEREMY REDMON
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/09/07

A newly released police video shows that a Cobb County police officer fatally shot a Stone Mountain man during a traffic stop in July seconds after the man stepped outside of his vehicle, pulled his right hand from his pocket and raised it toward the officer.

Officer William Wise's voice can barely be heard over his police cruiser's radio before the shooting, but it sounds as if he is repeatedly ordering Tyciris Jordan, 30, to show his hands. At one point, Wise orders Jordan to stay inside his vehicle. When Jordan gets out, Wise tells him to get down on the ground.
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Standing just feet away from Wise in daylight, Jordan eventually removes his right hand from his pants pocket and holds it toward the officer. It is unclear from the somewhat blurry video if Jordan has anything in his hand. He keeps his left hand by his side.

Three shots can be heard as Jordan crumples to the ground. Jordan was unarmed, according to the police reports.

An attorney for Jordan's family says a prosecutor reviewing the case told him Jordan had nothing in his right hand when he pulled it out of his pocket. Other Cobb police officers arriving after the shooting reported that a photo ID was on the ground next to Jordan's sport utility vehicle.

The Jordan family's attorney, Keishan Davis, released the video at a news conference this morning.

"After exiting his vehicle, Mr. Jordan was shot and killed by officer Wise as he stood before him, clearly unarmed and posing no immediate threat," said Davis, who is representing Jordan's estate and 14-year-old son. "He was before Mr. Jordan, just a few feet away from him on a clearly sunny day. He had an opportunity to see Mr. Jordan had no weapon in his hand."

A Cobb police spokesman declined to comment, citing the possibility that the police shooting could be referred to a grand jury for review.

Davis said Jordan's family is considering a federal civil rights lawsuit against the county and Wise, alleging Wise violated state law and Jordan's constitutional rights by using "unwarranted deadly force" against him. Davis sent a legal notice to the county July 26, citing claims totaling at least $20 million.

Davis confirmed he got a copy of the video from Douglas County District Attorney David McDade. McDade is handling the case because the shooting happened just across the border from Cobb in Douglas. McDade did not immediately return a telephone call for comment Tuesday morning. But he said in August he was planning to take the results of a Georgia Bureau of Investigation probe of the shooting to a grand jury, which McDade said is appropriate with police shootings.

Davis also said Tuesday that McDade told him a toxicology report showed Jordan had a substance in his body indicating he used cocaine some time in the 80 hours leading up to the shooting. Jordan had served seven years in prison for drug-related offenses in Massachusetts.

Cobb and GBI officials have declined to publicly release the dashboard-camera video of the incident, citing ongoing investigations. GBI officials turned over the findings from their investigation to McDade last month.

Cobb police say Wise saw Jordan speeding and driving erratically southbound on Austell Road just before 8 a.m. July 5.

Cobb police reports say that after the two came to a stop, Jordan disobeyed Wise's command to stay inside his SUV.

Wise shot when Jordan "moved his right hand from his pocket gesturing in a threatening manner," according to a police report.

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trumansho
17-10-2007, 03:53 AM
That's horrid it's like there's no more shock value,because this stuff is like normal and goes on everyday which is extremely sad.:(

synak
17-10-2007, 03:58 AM
Trigger happy soulless puppets are what I keep seeing. Shot to death for holding up his ID which the 'officer' likely told him to do in the first place.

malvern
17-10-2007, 11:01 AM
this is what happens when they point guns at people, they do not think, just shot.....well he was taking his hand out of his pocket maybe (unlikley) had a very very small gun ready to fire....
shitheads shot and ask after, if they were more answerable and accountable thing like this might not happen


freedom not shotem :)

phildee3
17-10-2007, 11:17 AM
okay, they could claim that accidents can happen (though I'm not saying this is one)

but putting him back on duty prior to an investigation??

now THAT is criminal!!!!!

de_shit
17-10-2007, 01:14 PM
Now this is something that I agree with. All of the bitches, whiners, and moaners above my post obviously didnt read this:

"A newly released police video shows that a Cobb County police officer fatally shot a Stone Mountain man during a traffic stop in July seconds after the man stepped outside of his vehicle, pulled his right hand from his pocket and raised it toward the officer."

If someone disobeyed my simple command and ran out of their car with a hand coming out of their pocket at light speed, you can bet your ass Id have my gun sticking in their mouth. This is a problem with people today man. No respect for anyone and they think the cops cant tell them to do shit. Certain things I wouldn't do, but getting out of my car on a traffic stop is something I would do. The dude was probably drunk.

trumansho
17-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Now this is something that I agree with. All of the bitches, whiners, and moaners above my post obviously didnt read this:

"A newly released police video shows that a Cobb County police officer fatally shot a Stone Mountain man during a traffic stop in July seconds after the man stepped outside of his vehicle, pulled his right hand from his pocket and raised it toward the officer."

If someone disobeyed my simple command and ran out of their car with a hand coming out of their pocket at light speed, you can bet your ass Id have my gun sticking in their mouth. This is a problem with people today man. No respect for anyone and they think the cops cant tell them to do shit. Certain things I wouldn't do, but getting out of my car on a traffic stop is something I would do. The dude was probably drunk.You sound like an idiot the man wasn't armed he pulled his ID out of his pocket that cop murdered him and took his life. So I guess you agree with them killing the 14 yr old boy at the boot camp as well?

malvern
18-10-2007, 11:34 AM
have watched vid over and over again.... bloody hard shout from this footage

this is what happens when they point guns at people, they do not think, just shot.....well he was taking his hand out of his pocket maybe (unlikley) had a very very small gun ready to fire....

malvern
18-10-2007, 11:45 AM
If someone disobeyed my simple command and ran out of their car with a hand coming out of their pocket at light speed, you can bet your ass Id have my gun sticking in their mouth. This is a problem with people today man. No respect for anyone and they think the cops cant tell them to do shit. Certain things I wouldn't do, but getting out of my car on a traffic stop is something I would do. The dude was probably drunk.

think this statement does not apply to this footage... did not run out of car,hand at lighting speed.... happy to see you would not of shot him, but just changed his eating habits....agree that people have lost or have no respect..... people should have the right to ask why if somebody wishes them to do shit....but we should all be carefull around guns, doubley when it's pointing at you.....


freedom:)

synak
18-10-2007, 11:55 AM
You sound like an idiot the man wasn't armed he pulled his ID out of his pocket that cop murdered him and took his life.

Exactly there's no excuse for the killing. I never knew officers considered ID's to be of threat to them physically, fearmongering puppets.

peachped
18-10-2007, 12:09 PM
The video should be shown in schools to show how not to behave if you are stopped by the cops. I would have thought Americans should know that anyway.

From the video it looked like the guy pulled something out of his pocket and aimed it at the cop.

synak
18-10-2007, 12:16 PM
The video should be shown in schools to show how not to behave if you are stopped by the cops. I would have thought Americans should know that anyway.

From the video it looked like the guy pulled something out of his pocket and aimed it at the cop.

Its one thing to see this in a very blurry out of focus video but actually being there I'm sure its not that easy to mistake a small white plastic card for a large black pistol.

mynameis
18-10-2007, 02:06 PM
Exactly there's no excuse for the killing. I never knew officers considered ID's to be of threat to them physically, fearmongering puppets.

Lord forbid they have to stop someone, take thirty minutes away from donut time, and file a police report, it's easier to shoot them dead. I heard this police officer also shot this man in the chest and head, since when are officers trained to shoot for the head?

synak
18-10-2007, 02:13 PM
I heard this police officer also shot this man in the chest and head, since when are officers trained to shoot for the head?

My sister actually had a brief conversation with a female officer she knew once and this woman told her they were "trained to kill" or something to that effect. Whether documented or not, this is what they are taught in most cases. The most efficient way to do so of course, is to aim for the head of said victim.