The NEWS behind the NEWS.

[tintin]

Folks, there's so many news that has to be "DECODED"
that it looks a good time to start a thread that
"TRANSLATES" the news.

So that not only the happy few can understand their
'SECRET CODES" but that ALL people can have ACCESS
to the same information.

If life were a sports game then we all would want
to be it a FAIR game. So hence this thread.

So let's start with the first interesting piece
of news.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/putin%20ahmadinejad.jpg

PUTIN In TEHRAN.
First time a Russian leader
since STALIN in 43.

http://www.iranian.com/DariusKadivar/2003/April/Tehran43/Images/poster_concept43_2.jpg

First time since 43?
STALIN? The biggest mass murderer probably of all time?
Bush president number 43?

See folks, something very BIG is coming our way.
And with OUR WAY, I mean the world because a
war with IRAN will hit the whole world on the chin.

IRAN or PERSIA is already MARKED as a target.

http://mediavillage.com/albums/CWUpfront2006/IMG_2894.jpg

PERSIA WHITE. And she's
heavily "marked" with tattoos
the BLACK is WHITE rule.

[neon]

tintin so glad we have people like you on this forum, i see your friend is here too. Please keep up the excellent work. You know your stuff. Sometimes reading your work is overload for me, because too much information :)

[tintin]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44174000/jpg/_44174125_monkey_ap_220b.jpg

From BBC pictures.
a monkey on top of a DOG.
Put our Inspector REBUS coats on

So what do we have here?

A MONKEY that plays TOP DOG.

http://www.webbusiness.no/webprivat/usa/upfiles/bush_monkey.jpg

It's MONKEY man Bush.
The picture is taken in LITTLE ROCK Arkansas.

That's BILL Clinton territory
The DOG is called GEORGE.

And the ORANGE woman in the back is in control.
the MONKEY has the YELLOW-BLACK nuclear colors.

from the "day in pictures" 12 october.
BBC gives us every day these little rebuses to decode.
Talking secretly in codes is a very old art....

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44174000/jpg/_44174122_congo_afp_416b.jpg

Same day.
A liitle boy in Congo points at us with a toy gun.
But the messages is the opposite of a TOY gun.

Young "boys" will be the henchmen for the elite.

So what is the next picture, just after BOY points
his gun at us?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44174000/jpg/_44174121_basque_ap_220b.jpg

An old man brutally treated by one
of those young men in Black.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44178000/jpg/_44178397_iraq_ap.jpg

General Petraeus lands in bagdad.(This is from yesterday.)
Petraeus means BETRAY US.
Betray the USA and Us.

Just as the last supreme commander in the
states was called PETER PACE.
Pace = peace in italian. war= peace.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177164_dipplanes_ap.jpg

Planes come right at us!
followed by this picture.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44178000/jpg/_44178396_bush_ap.jpg

MONKEY man BUSH.
Yes, but where did he land?
WACO texas.

That doesn't sound too comfortable.
So what picture follows?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177556_monkey220ap.jpg

Monkey man Bush...

All from the BBC.
next picture?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177209_dipsoldier_ap.jpg

An Indian soldier
giving the NAZI salute....

The whole series of ten pictures from yesterday
ends with this one...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44176000/jpg/_44176833_dipjapan_ap.jpg

[klinker]

Yes that is an interesting sequence of pictures that can tell a story. Don't forget the lady in red from that sequence. Red spells danger. ;)

[tintin]

tintin so glad we have people like you on this forum, i see your friend is here too. Please keep up the excellent work. You know your stuff. Sometimes reading your work is overload for me, because too much information :)

Thanks, much appreciated!

[tintin]

Yes that is an interesting sequence of pictures that can tell a story. Don't forget the lady in red from that sequence. Red spells danger. ;)

Yes, indeed, red as danger.
You can only post ten pictures, so was at my limit.
wanted to post that old man with all his belongings as well.

So here they are
part of the series above.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177169_dipmodel_afp.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177243_manbike_afp.jpg

[tintin]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Arsenal_Van_Persie-0607.jpg

Here's Robin van Persie.
have posted about him.
Especially because he is a PERSIAN and tells
us to FLY away from the EMIRATES. (His shirt).
The emirates are in the heart of the strait of hormuz.

Now the moment PUTIN was in TEHRAN we
have this headline from van Persie in de Telegraaf today.
(Biggest Dutch newspaper).

VAN PERSIE will meer UITSTRALING.

Translated it means this.

Van Persie wants
more RADIATION.

Straling is RADIATION.
So the PERSIAN wants more Radiation.

And in the article the journalist states that
"THE GUNNER IS BURNING".
(Ontbrandt, van persie plays for the "gunners")

Burning, radiation?

[tintin]

http://cdn.harpercollins.com/harperimages/isbn/large/7/9780060931407.jpg

DORIS LESSING WINS
NOBEL Prize for
litareture.

Yes, and so what?

DORIS LESING is
born in PERSIA (IRAN).

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/12/29/lessing_061229111433445_wideweb__300x438.jpg

When she was stil a young girl the family moved
to RHODESIA. what is now ZIMBABWE.

ZIMBABWE became indepent
after the so called

"BUSH" WAR.

So here we have a nice combination of
IRAN and BUSH.
I can't remember another IRANIAN to have won the
Nobelprize for literature.

So seems fitting the big picture.

And there is a second message.
She became famous with
that book above.
THE GOLDEN NOTEBOOK.

Second message:
BUY GOLD.

[real6]

I enjoy reading Tintin's post. very bugged out!!!

[majicdragon]

Or is it, "bugged IN"

rhymes with? Plugged in?

[vera susa]

tintin so glad we have people like you on this forum, i see your friend is here too. Please keep up the excellent work. You know your stuff. Sometimes reading your work is overload for me, because too much information :)

Just a simple tip from an 'old watcher':

Just drink it all in and let it settle where it will.
Don't even try to figure it all out, just relax and watch the patterns form.

Plus it also pays to have a genuine, interest in 'everything', even things
you 'don't like'.

Like I HATE Cricket, but couldn't help but notice how VERY IMPORTANT
it is for those "Good Old Boys" to LISTEN to every WORD, score and stat.
of certain matches.
But unlike 'common sports fans', they also weren't those inclined to get into a bitch fest about the 'reasoning' of SELECTORS...those at the top of the Cricket Pyramid, and very high up in the Global Pyramid, who have their fingers in many Corporate Pies.
Now I am not, a 'numbers' person, so cracking the codes behind scores and stats. is out of my league, but I do have an eye and ear for things that don't fit, breaks in surface patterns, that go on to form another pattern, and well, to sum up....apologies to genuine fans...the only sane explanation for the existence of Cricket as a world sport, is as a cover to rattle off, detailed, coded information to those in the know, without anyone suspecting why
those successful business men drop everything to listen to the Cricket.

As tintin has mentioned, after a while the recognition of what's 'coded',
becomes automatic.

Plus remember, that wars take years, decades to 'organize' so as with old
'coded billboards' like TINTIN books, it can take decades before you receive the rest of the message.

So if you just let the information settle in your mind as curious, interesting or 'not quite right', even though no one else may think so, it could be you that stumbles over a key to unlock that code, even decades later, just because you didn't buy the 'reasonable' explanations for a reasonable question.

[tintin]

Vera Susa.
I love Vera Susa...

[vera susa]

Oh yeay, you brought the BBC "Pictures" back to the NET!

And that days selection....nearly had me back on a posting frenzy, but for not knowing where to start and how to keep some hope, in the telling of the 'message'.

Any who have followed the BBC "PICTURES" posts on the "Global Power Shift" thread at that other site, may have noticed an overall shift in the tone and urgency of the 'picture stories', like from that now famous pic of Queen Liz sitting, waiting in an unlit room as if about to go into exile, to a shot of RED ARROW JETS flying at the funnel of the QE2, then add in the selection tintin just gave us, after an earlier run of 'escape' images (common people combined with all manner of transports)...well 'reasonable' people would just see it as a random reflection of what's going on in the world, except that there is a hell of a lot more interesting and important things going on than monkeys and gorillas, like the "Monkeys and Gorillas" that are opening borders for 'powerless' refugees into hell holes like America and England, while making it much harder
to 'escape' into the grossly UNDERpopulated, safe, stable landmass "They" OWN, OZ.

And now I'm off to look for what was only a morning news,
news-bar Headline;
"TASMANIAN BAND FIRST TO RECORD BEATLES SONG"...????

WHAT THE...!!!!

Now it doesn't matter what a non-story this may be, but when TASMANIA,
VAN DEMONS LAND, the place of birth of "ROBIN HOOD" (ERROL FLYNN),
who's POLICE PIPE BAND FEATURED AT THE FINAL CELEBRATION OF QUEEN ELIZABETH'S 50th JUBILEE AT EDINBROUGH (that I just discovered AMERICAN Spell Check is TOO STUPID to include, so 'out of the loop' are they!), make
it into a news-bar, there is most definitely more NEWS behind it!

[synergy777]

tin and vera welcome, thanks for the wonderful posts, and long may they continue.

[vera susa]

Thanks tintin, with the grief my old gut problem is giving me lately, on top of all the other bothers, I can do with the odd kind word.

Now my compliment for you;
please work your magic on this TASMANIA/BEATLES story,
that even with a quick scan, SCREAMS, "IMPORTANT MESSAGE!"



Local rockers in pop history
Article from: The Mercury

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5705608,00.jpg
FATE ...
The Innocents
perform at The Cavern in Liverpool,
where the Beatles played in the early 1960s.

KANE YOUNG
October 17, 2007 01:00am
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22600409-3462,00.html

TASMANIAN pop band The Innocents have created music history,
laying down a previously unrecorded song co-written by Beatle
Paul McCartney 45 years ago.

In Germany to perform at three music festivals, The Innocents
recorded the first ever studio version of the track Tell Me If You Can,
written by McCartney and legendary UK musician Tony Sheridan
in Hamburg in 1962.

Sheridan had performed Tell Me If You Can and once recorded a rough live version, but was not happy with how it turned out and did not release it.

He said the song was written in 15 minutes as
"Paul and I sat at my pad drinking lots of beer".

Sheridan formed his first group in England in 1956 and was highly sought-after, accompanying US artists such as Conway Twitty,
Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran on UK tours.
He was the first rock musician to be allowed to play live electric guitar
on British TV.

In 1960 he was the first English musician to play in Hamburg, Germany,
where he was supported by The Beatles.

The Liverpool lads lived with Sheridan for several months,
during which time they nicknamed him "the Teacher".

Sheridan and The Beatles went into Hamburg's Friedrich-Ebert Halle
to make the first Beatles record, My Bonnie, in June 1961.

That record came to the attention of young band-manager Brian Epstein -- the rest is pop music history.

Sheridan toured Australia in 1964 when his hit song Why
was in the national charts.

While in Sydney, he showed his saxophonist Alex Young's brothers how to
play guitar. They later formed legendary Aussie rock band AC/DC.

The Innocents --
Charles Touber, Greg Cracknell, David Minchin and Stuart Cashion --
went to Friedrich-Ebert Halle this month to record material for their documentary No Hit Wonders from Downunder.

Touber
could not believe it
when Sheridan pulled out
Tell Me If You Can
and asked them to record it with him.

"We recorded an Innocents original with Sheridan, then he casually announced he had a surprise for us," Touber said.
"Some surprise. It was like being handed the Ruby of India.

"We were absolutely floored.
It was a moment that time stood still -- a time of suspended belief."

Sheridan said meeting The Innocents was "fate".

"I like the group. The way they play reminded me of what we used to do
back then. They did great harmonies. It reminded me very much of
The Beatles," he said.

Sheridan said he wants to record more material with
The Innocents and perform in Tasmania.

================

Now see, you can wait over 40 years, to 'hear' how a long range plan is being worked and tweeked.

[vera susa]

Ah the "TIMING".....
yes, you can wait over 40, 60, hundreds of years,
for 'the other shoe to drop', and then the other, and the other,
before figuring out who's in bed with whom.

From the Madeline thread, spilling into other current News;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11983

Ghouliani: I'm prepared for an attack from outer..

3M...White-Out..."white-wash"...was first invented by
THE MOTHER of a MONKEE, Mike Nesmith.

3m's 'White-Out' is the RIVAL to The Original Liquid Paper:
It was invented by Bette Nesmith Graham in 1951
and originally called Mistake Out.
Graham was a typist who developed a type of white tempera paint
to cover up her mistakes.
Her first batch was mixed together in a common kitchen blender.

She offered the product to IBM, which declined.

She sold the product, renamed Liquid Paper, from her house for 17 years.

By 1968, the product was profitable and in 1979,
it was sold to the Gillette Corporation for $47.5 million with royalties.

She died the following year,
with half of her estate going to charity,
and half to her only child;
actor, producer, businessman, and
former Monkee, Michael Nesmith


So here we have more connections, but also with the theme of RIVALRY.

Now whenever there's restructuring or a power shift happening, at any level, people are called to remember old loyalties, debts and promises broken and kept....and worry about how much the other camps remember.

Well we are going through a GLOBAL POWER RE-STRUCTURE, and as Global Power Houses are VERY old, there are very many, very old memouries to review.

Which brings us back to Maddy, The Lindbergh Baby and
"THE GLOBAL TERROR OF ALIEN INVASION".

Now we've looked at "BALLOONS" as a symbol KEY, and I've posted on the now 'available to the general public', FLYING SAUCERS and the stupid, non-excuses for the death of the AIRSHIP and FLYING BOAT industries,
but I haven't explored the depths of the themes.
I keep stopping at the statement,
"I'm just waiting to see those 'MIGHTY DUCKS'."

And what was a recent, very funny spoof floating around the NET, but that
"BILL READING" of funding a response to a "Flesh Eating" ATTACK of some Power Greater than our Worst Nightmares!

And this after stories of the AIRSHIP Industry taking off again, and that
LEONARDO Di CAPRIO movie, "The Aviator", which ended with the successful flight of his (HOWARD HUGES, who made his early fortune in WEST AUSTRALIAN MINING), the biggest ever, FLYING BOAT.

Now keeping in mind that long before there was a 'conspiracy industry',
there was always an interest in the conspiracies that DENY GOOD technologies to the common man, while FORCING dangerous, polluting, wasteful technologies on us...can you just imagine what wonderful transports
have been designed and tested by all those gifted, inventive experts, who had their industries of choice, taken from public involvement, and put in the secretive hands of Governments.

But as we know, when RIVALRY is between the most powerful, it becomes
the most bloody for the innocent bystanders, and our World Powers are NOT
all on the same side, despite many pretending to be, even for hundreds of years, and that whole subject of the public Air Transport industry/history,
is one huge story of RIVAL World Powers, making us pay for their control
and domination.

So I can't help but expect it won't be too long before those WALKING, SWIMMING, FLYING, "MIGHTY DUCKS", so many have been brainwashed into believing are 'Alien', make their public debut....something like this;

http://991.com/newGallery/Jeff-Wayne-War-Of-The-World-325409.jpg

except "WORLD" is NOT plural.

And more "TIMING"... from today's BBC Main Page;


Citizen Kane Oscar under hammer
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42407000/jpg/_42407260_welles_ap203b.jpg
Orson Welles (centre) made Citizen Kane at the age of 25

The only Oscar won for
Orson Welles'
iconic 1941 film Citizen Kane
is to be auctioned and is estimated to fetch
$800,000 (£393,000)
to $1.2m (0.5m).

The Oscar was for best original screenplay and was given jointly
to Welles and Herman J Mankiewicz.

Sotheby's auction house in New York said it will
auction off the statuette on 11 December.

Many critics regard Citizen Kane,
about a power-hungry newspaper baron,
as one of the best films ever made.

Leila Dunbar, senior vice president at Sotheby's,
said the prestige of the film added to the statuette's value.

Held in secret

"The movie had a star-studded cast," she said.
"Welles was fearless in the filmmaking and he had complete autonomy,
all of which helped him create a landmark movie."

The Oscar was believed to have been lost until
it appeared at a 1994 Sotheby's auction.

A Los Angeles cinematographer had held it in secret,
after being given it by Welles as payment for working with him.

Welles' youngest daughter, Beatrice, claimed the Oscar for herself
after suing Sotheby's and the cinematographer.

Oscar sales

But when she tried to sell it, the academy tried unsuccessfully
to sue her as part of its longstanding goal of keeping Oscars out
of commercial markets.

Since 1950, the academy has required Oscar-winners to give it
the first right of refusal to buy back an Oscar for $1.

In 2003, it was acquired by the Dax Foundation,
an LA-based non-profit group that supports various
educational, health and other causes.
It is being auctioned by Dax.

In 1999, the best picture Oscar for Gone With the Wind
fetched more than $1.5m and Vivien Leigh's best actress statuette
for the same movie made more than $550,000.

http://billdouglas.ex.ac.uk/eve/object_images/47059.jpg

And here we have, also on the BBC Main Page,
NUKES and WAR,
GLOBAL HUNT for CHILD,
OLD and NEW LOYALTIES TESTED,
CRICKET "WARS"
PLAGUES
and a
'TWIN' DEATH in TRANSPORT Troubles;

OTHER TOP STORIES
http://news.bbc.co.uk/

Russia backs Iran nuclear rights
Global hunt for child-sex suspect
Dalai Lama US trip condemned
Woolmer Jamaica inquest opens
Nets boost Africa's malaria fight
'Two shot' in Cameroon taxi riot

[vera susa]

And then we also have this "TIMELY" reminder of that too often ignored, "FRENCH CONNECTION" in so much of what on the surface, looks unconnected:

Oh, really Obama and Cheney are cousins?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=160699&posted=1#post160699

Amazing some people still think that "anyone" can become a presidential "candidate". None of it is random.

Aren't Bush and Kerry related to Vlad the Impaler?


Yeah, at least synak didn't fall for "6 Degrees of Separation" BUZZ,
that flooded MSM a while back.
That 'fashion of water cooler talk', was promoted to convince folk that all those these connections we keep tripping over, between the Rich, Famous and Powerful, are as 'innocent', as the connections we 'common folk' have
with them....except we can't get away with shooting friends, while running the men who run a super-power!


Oh PLEASE,
can someone allowed on The Unhived Mind, share this with
"WHITE PROTESTANT MIGHT" RACISTS,
"Craig Oxley" and "Brother Eric Jon Phelps",
and remind their readers, that,
the ONLY way
they will have the SEGREGATED world
they so SERIOUSLY CAMPAIGN FOR,
is to CHIP EVERYONE
with technology that read and "RESPOND" to,
the genetic information that knows
how much 'black/brown blood'
is hiding under 'white/light skin'.

http://i21.tinypic.com/3448pq1.jpg
U.S. Senator Barack Obama (L) (D-IL)
re-enacts being sworn-in
by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney (R)
on Capitol Hill in Washington, January 4, 2005.
With him are his wife Michelle
and their two daughters
Malia (L) and Sasha.

Obama, 43,
is the only African-American in the Senate,
and the fifth in its history.

Cheney and Obama are distant cousins.
according to the vice president's wife, Lynne Cheney,
who said she discovered that her husband
of 43 years
is eighth cousins with the senator from Illinois.

The common ancestor was Mareen Devall,
who the Chicago Sun-Times said was
a 17th century immigrant from France.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1621534220071016

REUTERS/Jason Reed

[vera susa]

BBC "PICTURES"
VALUED EXPOSURE

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1192439059/img/1.jpg

Now this was also their 'Valued Exposure' yesterday (some clever code breakers might want to 'specialize' on the cracking the 'seemingly' random
posting and CHANGING of images the BBC give us, as there's definitely something 'directing' the web site's editors to act outside of 'routine'),
and if you look at all on offer on todays selections,
well, I can't see that 'They' mean to "RING THE NORTH" with 'Salad Days'....

BBC NEWS: In Pictures
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/default.stm

1987 storm lashes Kew

1987 storm


Day in pictures
16 October 2007

A tree lying across a Moscow road after collapsing under the weight of snow
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44179000/jpg/_44179333_snow_afp.jpg
A tree lies across a Moscow street after collapsing under the weight of snow.


But this one jumped out at me;
an ORANGE BOX

Juvenile boxfish
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44179000/jpg/_44179334_boxfish_ap.jpg
A 1cm-long juvenile boxfish
swims in the Celebes Sea,
just off the Philippines.


Why?
Well the following is about one of Australia's richest men
(possibly, the 3rd..?), famous for his philanthropy,
but back in the early eighties my husband found that just applying
for a tradesman job with Pratt's RIVAL company, AMCOR,
was like applying to join the secret service...that there was something
very dark and "OFF" about the whole industry...the Containers, Packaging
and Cardboard BOX industry.

Pratt apologises as firm faces $43m fine
5:00AM Wednesday October 17, 2007
By Nick Lenaghan
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10470298

http://media.apn.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/visy-160.jpg
Visy Industries chairman Richard Pratt. Photo / Bloomberg

Visy group chairman Richard Pratt has again apologised for his
packaging and paper company's involvement in price fixing with rival Amcor
in the A$2 billion ($2.4 billion) cardboard market.

The billionaire's company is facing a possible record penalty of A$36 million
for the anti-competitive behaviour, the Federal Court in Melbourne heard on Monday.

Speaking outside court, Pratt said he accepted full responsibility for his company's behaviour.

"I know a lot more now than I knew then, but I sincerely regret what happened and I accept ultimate responsibility," he said.

In a hearing before Judge Peter Heerey, Pratt and Visy admitted responsibility for the illegal price fixing. But Visy also told the court the activity did not cause losses to its customers. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has asked the court to impose a A$36 million fine on Pratt and Visy.

Smaller fines of A$1.5 million and A$500,000 respectively should also be imposed on Visy chief executive Harry Debney and former general manager Rod Carroll, the ACCC said. In a defence submission, Jonathan Beach, QC said Visy acknowledged its liability, accepted its responsibility and repented its contravention of the Trade Practices Act.


But Beach said price increases under the cartel, that ran between 2000 and 2004, followed a price war between Visy and Amcor.
"It's not an excuse but it explains the genesis of the arrangement
so far as Visy is concerned," he told the court.

"Our position is that increases would have taken place in any event."

Earlier, Peter Jopling QC, for the ACCC, told the court collusion between Visy and Amcor resulted in "very serious contraventions" of the act and had been "carefully and deliberately concealed".

"The collusion involved both price fixing and market sharing measures," he said.

An agreed statement of facts handed to the court covers 37 contraventions of the Trade Practices Act by Visy affecting some of Australia's biggest food and beverage companies, including Ingham's, Goodman Fielder, Foster's Group, Nestle and Cadbury Schweppes. Jopling said cardboard prices had risen by an overall 20 per cent from 2000-04.


The ACCC barrister also rejected a public apology issued last week by Pratt and Visy.

In a letter, Pratt said his senior executives had been motivated by a desire to take advantage of their arch rival Amcor.

As well, the Visy senior executives involved did not properly understand the complexities of the Trade Practices Act.

But Jopling asked Justice Heerey to reject those claims.

Jopling said Visy's "contraventions had nothing to do with the poor appreciation of the law".

Outside court, Pratt paused briefly to issue another apology.

But he did not respond to questions when asked why Debney remained in his position at Visy, despite admitting his role in the illegal activity.

Amcor, which blew the whistle on the price fixing to the competition watchdog, dismissed senior executives who set up the deal with Visy.

The ACCC legal action follows a year-long investigation into price fixing in Australia's A$2 billion cardboard box industry from 2000-04.

Justice Heerey reserved his decision on penalties to a date to be fixed.



But what this story WHITE WASHES, is AMCOR'S GUILT.

These mongrels didn't "Blow the Whistle",
but CHOSE to BE TRAITORS
to THEIR PARTNER
in a WELL PLANNED CRIME
(they are the only two BOX suppliers in the country),
AFTER they got BUSTED.
They TRADED
COMPLETE IMMUNITY for themselves,
by spilling all the dirt in their SHARED closet!

[vera susa]

Now, it's always been very hard for me to ignore ELEPHANTS,
even as child, long before I was aware of THE ORDER OF THE ELEPHANT,
'something' told me they represented a 'SECRET' Power,
well beyond their obvious size and intelligence,
but even more so since being aware of
SCOTS/AUSSIE PRINCESS and MOTHER of The Future KING of DENMARK,
belonging to that Order...and when the BBC combines
an ELEPHANT called "FIVE",
FORT WILLIAM, SCOTLAND,
LEFT WING IDEALISTS BEING CALLED TO WAR
AGAINST SPAIN'S HEAD
and
A LONG AND WINDING ROAD in FERTILE WALES....well....

17 October 2007
BBC NEWS

ENGLAND'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1192537463/img/1.jpg

Five, a 16-year-old African Elephant,
creates works of art using a paint brush at West Midlands Safari Park.


N IRELAND'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1192445879/img/1.jpg

The role of Irish volunteers in the International Brigade
during the Spanish civil war is being marked with a display of memorabilia
in the Linen Hall Library.
It is thought 78 of the 2,000 left-wing idealists from Britain, Ireland and
the Commonwealth who fought against Franco came from NI.


SCOTLAND'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1192442846/img/1.jpg

The remains of a clay pipe found at Fort William. It was among artefacts recovered by archaeologists probing the town's 18th Century history


WALES'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1192566266/img/1.jpg

[vera susa]

Right, so today on AUSTRALIA'S SOUTHERN CROSS TV news,
we just had a news-bar headline about the BEATLES,
and the first on-line story about it was from NEW ZEALAND,
then on today's OZZIE
http://www.abc.net.au/includes/headers/img/800x600/08.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/default_800.htm

we have:

Best of the ABC Updated: 17/10/2007 2:33:24 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/common/images/beatles125.jpg
File photo: The Beatles in the 1960s

I knocked back the Beatles

Former hotelier to the rich and the famous Frank Christie ]turned away the fab four - much to his kids' disgust.

* Listen to a clip from Life Matters
* Download the program in full
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/stories/2007/2059916.htm

[klinker]

Todays day in pictures from the Big Brother Corporation could tell a story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7047003.stm

[tintin]

Thanks tintin, with the grief my old gut problem is giving me lately, on top of all the other bothers, I can do with the odd kind word.

Now my compliment for you;
please work your magic on this TASMANIA/BEATLES story,
that even with a quick scan, SCREAMS, "IMPORTANT MESSAGE!"



Local rockers in pop history
Article from: The Mercury

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5705608,00.jpg
FATE ...
The Innocents
perform at The Cavern in Liverpool,
where the Beatles played in the early 1960s.

KANE YOUNG
October 17, 2007 01:00am
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22600409-3462,00.html

TASMANIAN pop band The Innocents have created music history,
laying down a previously unrecorded song co-written by Beatle
Paul McCartney 45 years ago.

In Germany to perform at three music festivals, The Innocents
recorded the first ever studio version of the track Tell Me If You Can,
written by McCartney and legendary UK musician Tony Sheridan
in Hamburg in 1962.

Sheridan had performed Tell Me If You Can and once recorded a rough live version, but was not happy with how it turned out and did not release it.

He said the song was written in 15 minutes as
"Paul and I sat at my pad drinking lots of beer".

Sheridan formed his first group in England in 1956 and was highly sought-after, accompanying US artists such as Conway Twitty,
Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran on UK tours.
He was the first rock musician to be allowed to play live electric guitar
on British TV.

In 1960 he was the first English musician to play in Hamburg, Germany,
where he was supported by The Beatles.

The Liverpool lads lived with Sheridan for several months,
during which time they nicknamed him "the Teacher".

Sheridan and The Beatles went into Hamburg's Friedrich-Ebert Halle
to make the first Beatles record, My Bonnie, in June 1961.

That record came to the attention of young band-manager Brian Epstein -- the rest is pop music history.

Sheridan toured Australia in 1964 when his hit song Why
was in the national charts.

While in Sydney, he showed his saxophonist Alex Young's brothers how to
play guitar. They later formed legendary Aussie rock band AC/DC.

The Innocents --
Charles Touber, Greg Cracknell, David Minchin and Stuart Cashion --
went to Friedrich-Ebert Halle this month to record material for their documentary No Hit Wonders from Downunder.

Touber
could not believe it
when Sheridan pulled out
Tell Me If You Can
and asked them to record it with him.

"We recorded an Innocents original with Sheridan, then he casually announced he had a surprise for us," Touber said.
"Some surprise. It was like being handed the Ruby of India.

"We were absolutely floored.
It was a moment that time stood still -- a time of suspended belief."

Sheridan said meeting The Innocents was "fate".

"I like the group. The way they play reminded me of what we used to do
back then. They did great harmonies. It reminded me very much of
The Beatles," he said.

Sheridan said he wants to record more material with
The Innocents and perform in Tasmania.

================

Now see, you can wait over 40 years, to 'hear' how a long range plan is being worked and tweeked.

First thing i noticed was the mentioning
of CONWAY TWITTY..

That name TWITTY is very rare.

http://www.exposetheleft.com/images/btwittybtaruba.JPG

BETH TWITTY

Her daughter Natalee was seduced in a CASINO
and after that most probably RAPED and KILLED.

http://www.annointed.net/photopost/data/500/484nataleeholloway.jpg

So just look at that name.
CONWAY TWITTY.

HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.



Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.

[IMG]http://www.rollingrains.com/archives/DEVIL%20LOGO.DESKTOP.JPG

The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

http://www.gensnet.nl/Diversefotos/dsc_0406.jpg

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/arthurprins2.jpg

Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

http://home.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/bryant1a.jpg

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.

http://www.euronet.nl/users/pcmversch/beelden/Balkenende-potter.jpeg

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Marcellin_Champagnat.jpg

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.


Just as in the Maddie McCann case.
All kinds of links to the MEROVINGIAN KING.

And what date did he die? Marcelinn Champagne?

JUNE 6. the same date
as when the OMEN was
released.

http://www.exfilm.net/uploads/posts/1166555635_536bd232f071.jpg

And keep in mind that MARY Donaldson is from TASMANIA.
M DONALD. The YELLOW M. Mac Donald.

And McDonald's? Hamburger!!
The BEATLES in HAMBURG.....

[howie]

Diemen in Holland is 80 miles from Ommen, where the films stunt director crashed his car & cut the passenger in half on Friday 13th, 66.6km from the town Ommen.

http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?t=325

[vera susa]

You know TASMANIA was just one location in OZ where there were plans
to set up The Jewish Homeland...and then there's also the BOXING KANGAROO and TASMANIAN DEVIL in Buggy Bunny, oh and that LITTLE PENGUIN that was always lost, another OZZIE Native. Yep TAZZIE, a fascinating place, and just so we don't forget it, the ABC is reminding us, again, tomorrow night, with.....

Tasmanian Devil:
The Fast And Furious Life Of Errol Flynn
8:30pm Thursday, 18 Oct 2007 Documentary
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/common/images/publicity/0742tasm_90.jpg

Featuring never before seen archival footage, photographs and interviews with famous contemporary Christopher Lee (Lord of the Rings),
legendary Hollywood writer/director Vincent Sherman,
and two of Errol Flynn's daughters -
all of whom speak candidly about his revolutionary sympathies
and journalistic ambitions as well as his decadent lifestyle -
this is Errol Flynn as we've never seen him before.

Born in Tasmania, Errol Flynn was the romantic star of dozens of
Hollywood action movies.
But from his troubled childhood in Hobart, to his escape from Australia
after stealing the diamonds of his society lover, then his death at the age of fifty in the arms of his teenage mistress, his real life was far more adventurous than any of his films.

Notorious for his love affairs, scandals and rebellious nature,
Flynn was also an aspiring journalist and served as war correspondent
at several armed conflicts worldwide.
He even scooped the first interview with Fidel Castro after the Cuban revolution.
His journalism and his fleeting Academy Award nomination for his
performance in The Sun Also Rises were his greatest personal achievements.

When Flynn died of massive heart failure after many years of
alcohol and drug abuse he was completely broke.
The high life and maintenance payments to his three ex-wives
had squandered his Hollywood fortune, and he had been forced to sell
even his beloved yacht and Mulholland Farm.

Always determined to get the most out of life no matter the cost,
Flynn stated in one of his last interviews,
"I've had a hell of a lot of fun and I wouldn't change any of it,
not for a minute."

Tasmanian Devil follows Flynn's life every step of the way
as he traversed great highs and terrible lows, interviewing his friends,
studio colleagues and children for the first comprehensive picture of
this notorious star.

[tintin]

if you would want to summarize
all the secret messages then you
could say they are all pointing to the
coming of the ANTI-CHRIST, the MEROVINGIAN KING.

But it's all that comes with it.
The BIG CHAOS is what's coming with him

And that is more or less what they tell
you on that BBC page and elsewhere.

The chaos is coming closer and closer.
Tasmania and MARY Donaldson. The line of MARY.
The PRINCE of DENMARK. Hamlet.

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/kingbush_dees.jpg

From the Jeff Rense website.
A throne and a big W on that throne.
supposed to be BUSH's throne but I think
it's the W of WILLEM ALEXANDER.

http://www.siebeswart.nl/img/portfolio/portfoliofoto_49.jpg

This is the THRONE in the KNIGHT's HALL
in The Hague holland.

The parliament year is opened by the Queen with
a yearly speech.

http://home.kole.info/ettje/images/09858-600.jpg

Here you see an old speech and Queen Juliana.
Next on the right is BERNHARD.
An extremely evil man. And very proud of that as well.

In the second world war they captured a bunch of
collaborators, and they were brought to a trial.
But Bernhard who witnessed it, proposed to shoot
them immediately.

That kind of guy.

I think Queen Beatrix will step down soon and then the
the curent Prince will be the KING of ORANGE.
And ORANGE is on top.

that BEATLE TASMANIA connection.
The group ACDC is mentioned in that article.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007JRC8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AC DC.
washington DC.

DC is the fourth and the third letter.
43.
Washington 43.

We had a GEORGE as the first president and we will have a GEORGE
as the last.

Wahington is an
anagram for WAS NOTHING.

OK. America will be TERMINATED, hence the TERMINATOR in
SACRAMENTO. the last Sacrement.

But to come back to the AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
Technically George WAS-NOTHING wasn't the first president.

This was the first.

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/assets/aa/buren/aa_buren_subj_e.jpg

MARTIN van BUREN

MARTIN like that MARTIN bryant. the Groningen connection
to Tasmania.
Dutchman. And what is the name Prince Alexander uses as
he goes incignito?

W.A. van BUREN

But that city of HAMBURG.
Home of the biggest newspaper in europe, the BILD ZEITUNG.
And home to the biggest postorder company in the World.
OTTO versand.
So an important MESSAGE town.

HANSESTADT HAMBURG.
HH Heil Hitler.
88.

ACDC
Angus and malcolm Young.
Go to wiki and you see this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/AngusYoungAndCampino-2001-06-05.jpg/800px-AngusYoungAndCampino-2001-06-05.jpg

DC District of COLUMBIA.
Maddie McCann. look me in the EYES.

http://www.yaps4u.net/images/MadeleineMcCannDistinctiveRightEyeIdenti_137B3/mccann2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/McCann_right_eye.jpg

What do you see? A key.
A KEY from YALE.
District of COLUMBIA. Eye disease COLOBOMA

http://www.devonlocks.com/html/media/smallpics/4/yale.jpg

THE KEY MAN FROM YALE will unleash hell.....

[tron]

Tintin, you are on the button my friend, I like your style. :) Your up there with synergy for interesting posts. :D thanks!

Cx

[tintin]

Diemen in Holland is 80 miles from Ommen, where the films stunt director crashed his car & cut the passenger in half on Friday 13th, 66.6km from the town Ommen.

http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?t=325

Some amazing facts in that link....

[tintin]

Tintin, you are on the button my friend, I like your style. :) Your up there with synergy for interesting posts. :D thanks!

Cx

Grazie molto!

[mountain]

Ouestion, TinTin!

I remember seeing someone posting info about Madeline's eye, being 7:00, but I think it is 5:00 (It's the right eye and mirrored).

Anyway, what does that mean?? Do you know? Thanx!

[tintin]

You know TASMANIA was just one location in OZ where there were plans
to set up The Jewish Homeland...and then there's also the BOXING KANGAROO and TASMANIAN DEVIL in Buggy Bunny, oh and that LITTLE PENGUIN that was always lost, another OZZIE Native. Yep TAZZIE, a fascinating place, and just so we don't forget it, the ABC is reminding us, again, tomorrow night, with.....

Tasmanian Devil:
The Fast And Furious Life Of Errol Flynn
8:30pm Thursday, 18 Oct 2007 Documentary
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/common/images/publicity/0742tasm_90.jpg

Featuring never before seen archival footage, photographs and interviews with famous contemporary Christopher Lee (Lord of the Rings),
legendary Hollywood writer/director Vincent Sherman,
and two of Errol Flynn's daughters -
all of whom speak candidly about his revolutionary sympathies
and journalistic ambitions as well as his decadent lifestyle -
this is Errol Flynn as we've never seen him before.

Born in Tasmania, Errol Flynn was the romantic star of dozens of
Hollywood action movies.
But from his troubled childhood in Hobart, to his escape from Australia
after stealing the diamonds of his society lover, then his death at the age of fifty in the arms of his teenage mistress, his real life was far more adventurous than any of his films.

Notorious for his love affairs, scandals and rebellious nature,
Flynn was also an aspiring journalist and served as war correspondent
at several armed conflicts worldwide.
He even scooped the first interview with Fidel Castro after the Cuban revolution.
His journalism and his fleeting Academy Award nomination for his
performance in The Sun Also Rises were his greatest personal achievements.

When Flynn died of massive heart failure after many years of
alcohol and drug abuse he was completely broke.
The high life and maintenance payments to his three ex-wives
had squandered his Hollywood fortune, and he had been forced to sell
even his beloved yacht and Mulholland Farm.

Always determined to get the most out of life no matter the cost,
Flynn stated in one of his last interviews,
"I've had a hell of a lot of fun and I wouldn't change any of it,
not for a minute."

Tasmanian Devil follows Flynn's life every step of the way
as he traversed great highs and terrible lows, interviewing his friends,
studio colleagues and children for the first comprehensive picture of
this notorious star.

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Images/Slides/Markers/ErrolFlynn.JPG

Errol flynn died 14 October.
That's one day after TEMPLARS day.

http://www.thecollectorzone.com/images/products/1016_l.jpg

SIMON TEMPLAR aka ROGER MOORE was
born that date.

Now checked Errol Flynn on Wiki and saw that
Errol Flynn played a part in the AVIATOR.
The movie about Howard Hughes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/The_Aviator_poster.JPG

Now look how many links there are to MADELEINE Mccann.
The movie the AVIATIOR.

LEONARDO DIcaprio.

He was named LEONARDO because he started kicking,
when his mother was pregnant, in front of
a LEONARDO DA VINCI painting.

All rubbish of course but it sounds great.
LEONARDO and LEONARDO DA VINCI.

In the MADELEINE McCann thread you can read about the
enormous importance of LEONARDO DA VINCI.
The BLOODLINE of JESUS and MARIA MAGDALENA.

Madeleine McCann was 1452 days old when she dissapeared.
Da Vinci was born 1452.

But back to the AVIATOR.

http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/cateblanchett/cate_blanchett_3.jpg

CATE blanchett played Katherine Hepburn.
the mother of Madeleine is KATE.
So a CATE and a KATE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Katharine_Hepburn_in_The_Philadelphia_Story_traile r.jpg

And another KAT. Katherine hepburn

KAT HEPBURN, born the
same date as
MADELEINE McCann.

Cate blanchett born 14 may. Two days after Maddie.
CATE, KAT, And KATE.
The three CATS of Anne Frank. MMM
(See the Maddie thread)

HOWARD HUGHES, the AVIATOR.
Was married to Jean PETERS

Jean Peters died
13 October Templars day.

Errol flynn was played by Jude Law in the movie.
But we have seen the ERROL FLYNN/TEMPLAR connection.

SIMON TEMPLAR, ROGER MOORE.

http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/ivanhoe/ivanhoe_col.jpg

ROGER MOORE is IVANHOE.


loads of links from TEMPLAR James Bond, to Maddie Mccann

And you have seen the link from CATE Blanchett to Madeleine.
So where does CATE come from?

http://www.ivanhoegolf.com.au/images/IvanhoeWelcome.jpg

CATE Blanchett from
IVANHOE, Australia.

[tintin]

Ouestion, TinTin!

I remember seeing someone posting info about Madeline's eye, being 7:00, but I think it is 5:00 (It's the right eye and mirrored).

Anyway, what does that mean?? Do you know? Thanx!

It could mean both.
This is how I see it.
The 7 link is very important.
See 007, James bond, the 777 bombings, etc, etc.

But I see in Maddie an annoucement.
a message that the MEROVINGIAN KING will arrive.
Supposedly from the JESUS/MAGDALENA bloodline.

The so called ANTI-christ merovingian King.
jesus mixed with satan.

Now the Anti-christ will mean DEATH.
Lot's of DEATH, death everywhere.
And 5 is the number of DEATH.
So two numbers. the SEVEN for perfection, and the 5 for DEATH.
Because for SATAN DEATH is Perfection.

Yes, could very wel mean both.
Have also thought about 19, as 7 O'Clock is also 19 O'Clock.

http://www.vangelismovements.com/ItsFiveOClockFB.jpg

It's five O'Clock.
Five hours is 300 minutes and 18000 seconds.
18 = 6+6+6.
So APHRODITE's CHILD and FIVE O'Clock.

The coming of the ANTI-CHRIST. The NUMBER 666.

http://elsew.com/data/666vc_b.jpg

Songs composed by an ANGEL. VANGELIS.
The ANGEL Gabriel and CHRIST.
in the big Madeleine thread I have posted lot's about the
GABRIEL links to Madeleine McCann.

Yep, 5 O'Clock.

[vera susa]

Now those of you who knew me from The Unhived Mind,
may have noticed that I 'have a thing about'
CARDINAL GEORGE PELL,
from the place of
The EUREKA REBELLION,
THE SOVERIEGN CITY
of
THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE,
HOME of IBM,
BALLARAT, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.

Created and proclaimed Cardinal by John Paul II
in the consistory of 21 October 2003,
of the Title of S. Maria Domenica Mazzarello
(St. Mary Domenica Mazzarello)..

He's said to have been
the man that pushed for
RATZINGER to be elected POPE

Well old Ratty's in the news again....but there's a bloody big hole....

Pope Benedict names 23 cardinals, 18 "electors"
Wed 17 Oct 2007, 12:03 GMT

By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY, Oct 17 (Reuters) -
Pope Benedict on Wednesday named 23 new Roman Catholic cardinals, including an Iraqi, two Americans and others from around the world
in choices he said reflected the universal nature of the 1.1-billion-member Church.

Eighteen of the 23 are under 80 years old and thus would be able to
enter a conclave to elect Benedict's successor after his death.
Five are over 80 and would be barred for reasons of age.

"Their selection well reflects the universality of the Church," Benedict told pilgrims and tourists during his weekly general audience in St Peter's Square.

Cardinals, the red-hatted "princes" of the Church, are the Pope's closest aides. They lead major dioceses around the world, head Vatican departments and advise him on matters affecting everything from faith to finances.

The new "cardinal electors", who are under 80 years old, come from Italy, Argentina, the United States, Germany, Poland, Spain, Ireland, France, Senegal, India, Mexico, Brazil and Kenya.

The ceremony to install the cardinals, known as a consistory, will be held on Nov. 24 at the Vatican, the Pope said.

One of the new cardinals is Emmanuel III Delly, an Iraqi who is Patriarch of Babylon of the Chaldeans.

Although he has just turned 80 and would not be able to enter a conclave, the honour given to Delly by raising him to the elite ranks of the Church appeared to be an attempt by the Pope to support the Christian minority
in Iraq and the Middle East.

CHRISTIAN EXODUS FROM MIDDLE EAST

The Chaldeans are Iraq's biggest Christian group. The Chaldean rite is one of the ancient rites of the Catholic Church, in full communion with Rome.
Many Iraqi Chaldeans have emigrated since the war in Iraq started.

Delly has frequently warned that the Middle East, the birthplace of Christianity, could soon be emptied of its Christians because so many
were emigrating to escape the violence there.

It was the second time since his election in April 2005 that the Pope has named new cardinals to put his conservative stamp on the Church.
The first was in March last year when he installed 15.

The new "electors" include Archbishop John Patrick Foley, a former Vatican official from the United States, Daniel N. DiNardo, Archbishop of Galveston-Houston, and Archbishop Paul Joseph Cordes, a German based in the Vatican.

Archbishops Andre Vingt-Trois of Paris, Oswald Gracias of Bombay, Francisco Robles Ortega of Monterrey, Mexico, John Njue of Nairobi and Sean Baptist Brady -- Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland -- will also be electors.

Church law sets a ceiling of 120 on the number of so-called
"cardinal electors".
Benedict said he was bending the rule temporarily
to have 121 cardinal electors for a period.

After next month's consistory, the total number of cardinals in the Church -- over and under 80 -- will be 202.

Benedict's predecessor John Paul broke the ceiling on cardinal electors
several times, but deaths and 80th birthdays soon brought the number back to 120 or fewer.
There is no limit to the number of cardinals over the age of 80.

Pope John Paul held nine consistories during his 26-year reign
and created more than 200 cardinals.
All but 2 of the prelates who entered the conclave following his death
in April, 2005 had been made cardinals by him.
(Additional reporting by Tom Heneghan in Paris)


But, this is where it get 'curious'.....


http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/img/sala-stampa/sala_stampa3_en.jpg
The College of Cardinals

Biographical notes

19.09.2007]

List of Cardinals electors


(scroll down to "P")
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_aa_index_elettori_biografie_en.html

PANAFIEU Bernard [English, Italian]
PELL George [English,
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_pell_g_en.html
Italian]
PENGO Polycarp [English, Italian]
PHAM MINH MÂN Jean-Baptiste [English, Italian]
POLETTO Severino [English, Italian]
POUPARD Paul [English, Italian]
PUJATS Jānis [English, Italian]
PULJIĆ Vinko [English, Italian]

The College of Cardinals

Biographical notes

[Updated: 16.10.2007]

List of Cardinals electors

(scroll down to "P")
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_aa_index_nonelettori_biografie_en.html

PASKAI László, O.F.M. [English, Italian]
NO PELL!?!
HE AIN'T 80 or DEAD, so...????
PHAM DÌNH TUNG Paul Joseph [English, Italian]
PIMENTA Simon Ignatius [English, Italian]
PIOVANELLI Silvano [English, Italian]
POGGI Luigi [English, Italian]


So O.K., I've looked, and looked but can't find any 'rule'
or explanation for this 'typo', 'over-sight' (yeah, as if!),
FROM THE HOLY SEE PRESS OFFICE.

Oh and why did I finally ASK to be banned from
The Unhived Mind?

"CRAIG OXLEY/ERIC JON PHELPS"
the 'great' VATICAN 'exposer/s',
would NOT (could not?)
acknowledge ANY SIGNIFICANCE about
the role BALLARAT Boy, GEORGE PELL plays in
the CATHOLIC CONSPIRACY...
let alone answer my repeated requests
to look into the many leads I gave them,
and publicly share what I can't.

So now, the question is:
"WHO'S SIDE IS PELL ON?"

[tintin]

Bush warns
nuclear-armed IRAN
could mean WW 3.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/125948.html

The drums of war are getting louder and louder.
One little "staged" incident and it starts....

[vera susa]

I came to recall, and post this little detail earlier, from tintin's 3M connection:

.....the AIRSHIP Industry taking off again, and that
LEONARDO Di CAPRIO movie, "The Aviator", which ended with the successful flight of his (HOWARD HUGES, who made his early fortune in WEST AUSTRALIAN MINING), the biggest ever, FLYING BOAT.

and his last post just reminded me of:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200710/r191436_721184.jpg
Cate Blanchett as Elizabeth I.

but this is what always kept happening on that 'other site'.
There we are, on opposite sides of the world,
from opposite walks of life,
one working on news,
another on sport,
and yet at the same time, we'd fall over the same, obscure connections.

It's just too impossibly hard to AVOID finding that;
"ALL ROADS LEAD TO....OZ[ION]"...PARTICULARLY, those 'ROMAN Roads'!

No bloody wonder that EVIL ANTI-CHRIST, ERIC JON PHELPS,
NEVER DARED to give me one of his condescending lectures,
about 'needing to learn more', let alone answer ANY of my questions.

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interesting reading .well done tintin and vera suza

I'm scanning the news in a whole different way now:cool:

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apologies if this has been posted somwhere in connection with this before such a lot of material on the subject in different threads .
http://www.sirbacon.org/links/dblohseven.html
Dee has been defamed through the centuries as a necromancer, but it's the opinion of many writers that his angelic-cabalistic- alchemical work, his Philosophers Stone, the"Monad Hieroglyphica"(1564) may have been a cover for covert operations carried on in the name of her majesty. The 007 was the insignia number that Elizabeth was to use for private communiques between her Court and Dee.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2089/007ay5.jpg

Dee signed his letters with two circles symbolising his own two eyes and indicating that he was the secret eyes of the Queen.The two circles are guarded by what may be considered a square root sign or an elongated seven. For Dee, seven was a sacred cabbalistic and lucky number.(Richard Deacon)

The Earl of Leicester, Robert Dudley (the Queen's favorite), was the first man, according to Dodd to license a band of players for dramatic purposes. Without a license, acting was illegal in Elizabeth's England. It was through Leicester's sphere of influence, that a young Francis Bacon had developed interest in drama and the theater while getting the opportunity to know James Burbage, the first man to build a theater in England. Bacon would also get to meet in the Court circles the man who had tutored Leicester and advised Elizabeth on matters of state -the man whom Ian Fleming modeled his 007 James Bond character on, the first and perhaps the best secret agent of the crown, Dr.John Dee.
Makes you wonder about the wording of acts of parliment or acting on behalf of the crown !:D Not forgettign that Roger Moore as well as being the saint simon templar was also Lord Brett Sinclair in The Persuaders .St clairs being the guardians of Rosslyn chapel and the secrets there .

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and his last post just reminded me of:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200710/r191436_721184.jpg
Cate Blanchett as Elizabeth I.



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good synchro
http://www.sirbacon.org/links/dblohseven.html
Elizabeth was very much interested in the occult. Dee was responsible for choosing the most auspicious date for Elizabeth's coronation which was on January 15th, 1559. The Queen was so impressed by Dee that she eventually travelled with her court to Mortlake, for the purpose of seeing his great library.
http://www.twistedtree.org.uk/JohnDee.htm
Dr John Dee was born in 1527 in the village of Mortlake (mort = death )which is situated by the Thames outside London,
John Dee (July 13, 1527 - December, 1608) any significance in those dates ?

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In 1960 he was the first English musician to play in Hamburg, Germany,
where he was supported by The Beatles.

The Liverpool lads lived with Sheridan for several months,
during which time they nicknamed him "the Teacher".

Sheridan and The Beatles went into Hamburg's Friedrich-Ebert Halle
to make the first Beatles record, My Bonnie, in June 1961.

.

I seem to recal hearing stories of john lennon supposedly killing someone back in germany in the early days but cant find any reference to it ,hasanyone else heard this rumour ?

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And there again, while I'm making my RATTY/PELL post that includes:


The ceremony to install the cardinals, known as a consistory,
will be held on Nov. 24 at the Vatican, the Pope said.

One of the new cardinals is
Emmanuel III Delly,
an Iraqi who is Patriarch of
Babylon of the Chaldeans.

Although he has just turned 80 and would not be able to enter a conclave, the honour given to Delly by raising him to the elite ranks of the Church appeared to be an attempt by the Pope to support the Christian minority
in Iraq and the Middle East.

CHRISTIAN EXODUS FROM MIDDLE EAST

The Chaldeans are Iraq's biggest Christian group.
The Chaldean rite is one of the ancient rites of the Catholic Church,
in full communion with Rome.
Many Iraqi Chaldeans have emigrated since the war in Iraq started.

Delly has frequently warned that the Middle East, the birthplace of Christianity, could soon be emptied of its Christians because so many
were emigrating to escape the violence there.



tintin is posting:


The coming of the ANTI-CHRIST. The NUMBER 666.

http://elsew.com/data/666vc_b.jpg


And remember guys, that it's The FALSE PROPHET
who LEADS MANKIND TO WORSHIP THE BEAST
AND
IT'S "THE WHORE" THEY DESTROY,
so it's those ANTI-CATHOLIC/ANTI-CHRISTIANITY Preachers/Prophets,
you really do need to STOP FOLLOWING when you come out for "HER".

[tintin]

apologies if this has been posted somwhere in connection with this before such a lot of material on the subject in different threads .
http://www.sirbacon.org/links/dblohseven.html
Dee has been defamed through the centuries as a necromancer, but it's the opinion of many writers that his angelic-cabalistic- alchemical work, his Philosophers Stone, the"Monad Hieroglyphica"(1564) may have been a cover for covert operations carried on in the name of her majesty. The 007 was the insignia number that Elizabeth was to use for private communiques between her Court and Dee.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2089/007ay5.jpg

Dee signed his letters with two circles symbolising his own two eyes and indicating that he was the secret eyes of the Queen.The two circles are guarded by what may be considered a square root sign or an elongated seven. For Dee, seven was a sacred cabbalistic and lucky number.(Richard Deacon)

The Earl of Leicester, Robert Dudley (the Queen's favorite), was the first man, according to Dodd to license a band of players for dramatic purposes. Without a license, acting was illegal in Elizabeth's England. It was through Leicester's sphere of influence, that a young Francis Bacon had developed interest in drama and the theater while getting the opportunity to know James Burbage, the first man to build a theater in England. Bacon would also get to meet in the Court circles the man who had tutored Leicester and advised Elizabeth on matters of state -the man whom Ian Fleming modeled his 007 James Bond character on, the first and perhaps the best secret agent of the crown, Dr.John Dee.
Makes you wonder about the wording of acts of parliment or acting on behalf of the crown !:D Not forgettign that Roger Moore as well as being the saint simon templar was also Lord Brett Sinclair in The Persuaders .St clairs being the guardians of Rosslyn chapel and the secrets there .

JAMES BOND and
The EARL of LEICESTER.

In the big Maddie thread i have posted countless links
from james bond to Madeleine.
Rothley, hometown of the Mccanns, Templar Town
Just a few miles north of LEICESTER.
Gerry McCann works as a cardiologist in LEICESTER.
And how about this.

A movie based on an AGATHA CHRISTIE detective.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/AgathaChristie_450FromPaddington.jpg

ROTHLEY STATION was
used for this movie.

The book was also named

WHAT Mrs McGillycuddy SAW.


So we have MAC and see SAW something.

The EYES of MAC cann.

Leicester and Aleister.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Aleister_Crowley.jpg

ALEISTER CROWLEY's first wife
came from PADDINGTON.

and when we go to wiki and paddiington,
what do we see?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/StMarysOldSection.jpg

St MARY's Hospital.
Yes, and that Hospital is operated by
the imperial college healtcare NHS trust

WHICH also operates
the WESTERN EYE HOSPITAL.
Specialized in EYE diseases.

The EYE disease of MADELEINe

MADELEINE McCann. Maria Magdalena.
Virgin Mary, Paddington, Alistair Crowley and
Agatha Christie.

WHO DUNNIT?

[vera susa]

Good one 2013!!!

DEE and BACON are two of my 'favourite' MASTER DECEIVERS.

See, I KNOW that Moses did NOT lead Israel out of Egypt
(which along with The Nile, Euphrates, and more, is NOT
in Holy Scripture, but that COUNTERFEIT 'bible'.), as 677
times out of 681 mentions, MITSRAYIM is CHANGED to read
as 'Egypt', even those it SIMPLY DOES NOT FIT THE DESCRIPTIONS,
EVEN IF YOU COULD MAKE the EUPHRATES etc. FIT.

The fours time it isn't CHANGED to Egypt, it's someones name.

Holy Scripture DESCRIBES the WHOLE World and ALL Peoples.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to contract it into a small quarter, but with
the skills of BACON and DEE and those in their Circles, they
DID get us to WORSHIP EGYPT and it's DEATH CULTS,
while BLAMING GOD for THE RESULTS OF DOING SO.

Quite brilliant!

They HAVE DECEIVED, ALL BUT THE VERY ELECT.

Yep, it's no accident that for HUNDREDS of Years
the CROWNS HID OZ[ION]
behind warnings of "DRAGONS",
then LIED about it being a "dangerous, unlivable desert land",
WELL ENOUGH to KEEP DECEIVING the ONLY 21 Million population,
who NO ONE HAS INVADED TO CLAIM ALL IT'S RICH SUPPLY of
URANIUM, OIL, GAS, COAL, GOLD, SILVER, DIAMONDS and well,
EVERYTHING NEEDFUL and PRECIOUS,
while still FIGHTING, WARING and KILLING,
to grab a little claim of DESERT in the Middle East.

GOD SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

Think it's crazy to believe in God?

As crazy as this GLORIOUS, STABLE, VOLCANO and WAR FREE,
RICH, WELL WATERED LAND,
ONLY HAVING 21 Million people,
when AMERICA has 301 Million people,
who FREEZE, FRY, FLOOD and GET BLOWN AWAY every season,
yet, like MOST of The World, BELIEVE OZ is "TOO DANGEROUS"?!!

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I seem to recal hearing stories of john lennon supposedly killing someone back in germany in the early days but cant find any reference to it ,hasanyone else heard this rumour ?

Yes, I did. Its rumored he caused the death of former Beatle Stu Sutcliffe by beating him badly and provoking him cerebral hemorrhage.:(

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Yes, I did. Its rumored he caused the death of former Beatle Stu Sutcliffe by beating him badly and provoking him cerebral hemorrhage.:(

Maybe thats why the big peace mission to absolve guilt or maybe he was just as much a player as paul /faul maybe this is more appropriate in a beatles thread ,but links to hamburg and the beatles tune released by the innocents in here so maybe not .

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Good one 2013!!!

DEE and BACON are two of my 'favourite' MASTER DECEIVERS.



http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/essays/essay-bacon-shakespeare.html
There is no real evidence that the actor Will Shakspere was the author of the Shakespeare works attributed to him. On the other hand it was common in the 16th/17th centuries for courtiers and noblemen to write anonymously or under pseudonyms, often symbolical, and sometimes to make use of living people as masks for their secret authorship.

‘Shakespeare’, particularly when printed with a hyphen as ‘Shake-speare’, as it often was on the title-pages of plays, is a clear indication of a symbolic pseudonym. It is the literal meaning of Pallas Athena, the name of the goddess who is the Supreme Muse (or Tenth Muse) of Poetry and the Arts, and who, together with her companion Apollo, is represented in myth as shaking her lance at the dragon of ignorance—a reference which Ben Jonson used in his tributory poem to the Author in the First Folio of Shakespeare plays.

The Shakespeare Memorial at Stratford-upon-Avon likens the Bard to Nestor, Socrates and Virgil. Nestor was a renowned statesman, lawyer and judge. Socrates was acclaimed in his own time as the greatest of all philosophers and proclaimed by the Delphic oracle as the wisest of mankind. He was the advocate of clarity and the inductive procedure, was famed as an orator and wrote plays under the mask of another living person. Virgil was an initiate of the Ancient Mysteries, basing his writings upon them, and was acclaimed as the Prince of Latin Poets. He also is said to have written under the mask of another person. These comparisons are obviously not chosen by chance.

The evidence within the plays shows that the author was:-

educated at Cambridge University, which fact is confirmed by a contemporary scholar, William Clerke, who implies in his Polimanteia that the author ‘sweet Shak-speare’ was a graduate of Cambridge University and a fine classical scholar; :D

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an expert lawyer and member of one of the Inns of Court;

a parliamentarian and statesman;

a member of the Court;

widely travelled with first-hand knowledge of other lands, peoples and courts of Europe;

a philosopher and initiate;

a primary enhancer and re-creator of the English language;

an expert on classical mythology and philosophy;

a multi-linguist and widely read in books not then translated into English;

alive and writing plays between the late 1580’s and 1613, and still revising and augmenting some of them right up until 1623, when the First Shakespeare Folio was published with new material relating to contemporary events inserted by the author.

Only one man fits this description—Sir Francis Bacon—and much evidence exists to confirm this, laid out in the form of a treasure hunt.

Poesie and Drama were described by Bacon in such a way as to show that they belong to the 4th Part of his Great Instauration of all Arts and Sciences. He declared that he was going the way of the Ancients in presenting truths through drama and allegory, and would teach his method of how to discover truth by imitating the divine game of hide-and-seek:-

For of the knowledges which contemplate the works of Nature, the holy Philosopher [Solomon] hath said expressly; that the glory of God is to conceal a thing, but the glory of the King is to find it out: As if the Divine Nature, according to the innocent and sweet play of children, which hide themselves to the end they may be found, took delight to hide his works, to the end they might be found out; and of his indulgence and goodness to mankind, had chosen the Soul of man to be his Play-fellow in this game.

As a previous Lord Chancellor of England, Richard de Bury, declared:-

The wisdom of the ancients devised a way of inducing men to study truth by means of pious frauds, the delicate Minerva secretly lurking beneath the mask of pleasure.

And as Jacques, the mouthpiece of the author in As You Like It, says:-

Invest me in my motley. Give me leave
To speak my mind, and I will through and through
Cleanse the foul body of th’infected world,
If they will patiently receive my medicine.

The motley, mask, drama—an entertaining and challenging education! A mirror of nature held up to our eyes so that we might see ourselves. A game of hide and seek in which we might bring out the best in ourselves and thereby uncover the truth.

But there is no dogma and no compulsion to take part in the game, or even to see what is there waiting as a gift for us. It is like Portia’s music playing softly in the background, selecting the suitor and inspiring the right choice.

Francis Bacon was referred to by his contemporaries as the supreme poet and leader of all other poets; one who wrote poetry secretly and philosophy publicly, who renovated philosophy in the socks of comedy and buskins of tragedy (i.e. on the stage). He was likened to Apollo, the Daystar and leader of the choir of Muses, and to Athena, the Tenth Muse, both Spear-Shakers. He was the head of a philanthropic Rosicrucian Society (i.e. the ‘spear-shaking’ Red Cross knights or St. Georges) dedicated to the upliftment and illumination of the world. His work (especially his Shakespeare drama and poetry) inspires and teaches us even now; yet there is much still hidden from our eyes, awaiting the time when we should discover and understand it, and put it into practice for the well-being of the whole world.

© Peter Dawkins, 1999

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http://www.light-of-truth.com/
A website honoring Sir Francis Bacon, who was William Tudor, who was William Shake-speare New Tudor-Bacon-Shakespeare Painting Sheds Light on Elizabeth I's Secret Son

Gulfport, FL (PRWEB) October 15, 2007 -- On October 14, 2007, Keith Stillwagon, popular artist of Gulfport, Florida unveiled his latest painting, "Tudor-Bacon-Shakespeare." Commissioned on June 6th by an anonymous source, the painting is dedicated to Lawrence Gerald, creator of the Baconian website, www.sirbacon.org , in celebration of the website's recent Ten Year Anniversary on October 10th.

The painting honors the memory of the great Sir Francis Bacon and proclaims the theory that Bacon was born a Tudor Prince secretly to Queen Elizabeth I by placing a Tudor crown upon his head. Furthermore, Keith has incorporated symbols in the painting that hint at Bacon's authorship of the Shakespeare works. The mystery of who wrote Shakespeare becomes less cloudy when it is considered that Elizabeth's high intelligence was genetically passed down to Bacon who was raised with an extensive education and is already a strong candidate for the authorship. The title of the painting, Tudor-Bacon-Shakespeare, brings the three names of one man into a single portrait of Sir Francis Bacon for the first time in history. Shakespeare's Sonnet 105 touches on this three-in-one theme very plainly in lines 13 and 14:

Fair, kind, and true, have often lived alone.
Which three till now, never kept seat in one.

The three-in-one portrait of Bacon is now immortalized in Keith Stillwagon's painting; "Fair" represents the name Tudor, as the theory goes Bacon was born in secret to Queen Elizabeth I and Robert Dudley; "Kind" represents the beautiful words of William Shakespeare, Bacon's pen-name; and "True" represents Bacon in his pubic and known personality and who began his famous essays with "Of Truth."

The three names, Tudor-Bacon-Shakespeare, never kept seat in one, until October 14, 2007. The painting can be seen online at Keith Stillwagon Studios.

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http://www.light-of-truth.com/deeconnection.htm
lots more links on this page to dee bacon shakespear
Shall we look more closely at John Dee's role in the Sonnets?

Dee's Connection More on the ciphers, John Dee, Shakespeare, and Sir Francis Bacon

Sonnet 014 speaks of Dee, and hints that perhaps Dee can "say with Princes if it shal go well", of course meaning William Tudor, and Sonnet 126 gives us interesting Dee Cipher signatures and hints that "Sha" is his, and then here on Line 1561 is the hint to "know my sha". In these numbers could it be that Bacon is telling us that Dee coined the name "William Tudor", which was meant to be "William Tudor I", and coined the name "Shakespeare" for Bacon to use. Was Bacon's life totally designed by Dee? Both were Masters and geniuses, and perhaps their lives were woven together more than we ever knew with Elizabeth Tudor as the common thread.
:D

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here is the painting that was released on october 14th 2007 commisioned on 6th june by an anonymous source.Heavy with masonic symbolism 1
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3236/bacon520ls7.jpg:D
Its all fitting together good work here guys leading onto other links .

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http://www.light-of-truth.com/Secret_Messenger/secret.html
rememeber Angel means messenger .The writing on this is in olde worlde and a bit hard to read but interesting chapter 18 refers to C H A P . I 8 .

Concerning a language, that may consist only
of Tunes and Musicall Notes, without
any articulate sound.
maybe that is how they pass on info thru music subconciously or not mind control could certainly train a person to pick out notes as a cipher .The beatles tunes where i was told all based on old nursery rhyme melodies becaus e we all had them in our minds anyway so they hooked us in easliy that way , keep humming or singing them .A lot of the nursery rhymes are very old .:D and in keeping with the shakespear theme doctor who BBC
drama the shakespear code http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2007/302.shtml About three witches from another dimension trying to open up a portal back to their world !

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From the fact file page http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2007/302.shtml
The original Globe theatre was destroyed by fire in 1613. The New Globe Theatre, where some of The Shakespeare Code was filmed, was completed in 1997. Its creation was instigated by the late Sam Wanamaker. Sam was the father of Zoë Wanamaker, who played Cassandra in The End of the World and New Earth.:D

[tintin]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Bacon_and_Eggs.jpg

WE START THE DAY
WITH (Francis) BACON
AND EGGS.

The EGGS representing the SUN and
Bacon of course FRANCIS BACON, master deceiver.

So everyday we need to be brainwashed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Globe_Galleries.JPG

THE GLOBE THEATRE.
THE WHOLE WORLD
needs brainwashing.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2671798/2/istockphoto_2671798_sunny_side_up_eggs.jpg

SUNNY SIDE UP.

EGGS and EYES. Mostly two eggs because we have
two eyes. TWIN EYES.

http://www.cristobalcolondeibiza.com/images/huevo03.jpg

THE EGG OF COLUMBUS.

COLUMBUS and AMERICA.
The EGG as an EYE.

http://www.yaps4u.net/images/MadeleineMcCannDistinctiveRightEyeIdenti_137B3/mccann2.jpg

LOOK into my EYES.
COLUMBUS and EGGS.
Washington D.C.
District of Columbia.

Madeleine has an
EYE disease called
COLOBOMA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Alvaro_Uribe_Velez.jpg/180px-Alvaro_Uribe_Velez.jpg

VELEZ, President of
COLOMBIA. See the Two flags?
From WIKI.

Alvaro Uribe Velez. President of Colombia.
So on WIKI you see this picture of him.
AMERICA and COLOMBIA.

So when was he born?

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/510Yne2gKPL._SS500_.jpg

Alvaro Velez was born
on the 4th of JULY.
Ameriva's independence day.

[tintin]

http://www.light-of-truth.com/images/Bacon520.jpg

The francis Bacon painting.
Tudor, Bacon and Shakespeare.

Commissioned 6 june and
released 14 October.

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Images/Slides/Markers/ErrolFlynn.JPG

14 OCTOBER. The day
The TASMANIAN DEVIL died
and the TEMPLAR was
born.

http://www.thecollectorzone.com/images/products/1016_l.jpg

All connected.
And the painting was commisioned on 6 june.
that's the date the OMEN was released.
6-6-2006. 666.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2089/007ay5.jpg

JOHN DEE, the JAMES BOND agent for queen Elizabeth I.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/John_Dee_Ashmolean.jpg

JOHN DEE. the real
JAMES BOND.

FRANCIS BACON and JAMES BOND, aka John Dee.
Now in an earlier post in this thread you have
seen that BEATLES story. The TASMANIAN band.
TASMANIAN DEVIL, Errol Flynn, and the BEATLES.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5705608,00.jpg

"THE INNOCENTS".


The innocents?
Well we have a POPE called INNOCENTIUS.

http://217.207.178.138/cgi-bin/bridgemanImage.cgi/600.BAL.00530.7055475/321.JPG

Famous painting by DIEGO VELASQUEZ.
Now back to that painting of TUDOR/BACON/SHAKESPEARE.

Commisioned on 6 june. the OMEN DATE.

DIEGO VELASQUEZ, born
6 JUNE.

It all fits together.
Velasquez and the INNOCENT.

It's all connected; so a very famous painting.
Have seen it myself in ROME.
The audio guided tour was spoken by
a descendent of this Pope.
In the Galleria Doria Pamphili. Inoccentius was
a PAMHILI.

Ha, but there is another famous painting
of this INNOCENTIUS.
This one.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Study_after_Velazquez%27s_Portrait_of_Pope_Innocen t_X.jpg

PAINTED by.....
FRANCIS BACON.

The Irish painter Francis Bacon.

[tintin]

That painting you see above tells you what's coming.
We see PURPLE, we see YELLOW and BLACK.

Purple is the color of Genocide. (purple Rain, Nuclear rain.)
Yellow and black the NUKE colors.
See that "INNOCENT" Pope in complete HORROR?

https://www.sharemation.com/yadetnare3dot/Files/Nuclear/01-NuclearLogo.gif

The nuclear colors.
So it was painted by FRANCIS BACON.

OK. The MASTERPLAN is now unfolding.
we will have a WAR with IRAN and then all the big
CHAOS wil follow, to make room for ORDER.

Iran as the KEY country.

FRANCIS BACON and IRAN.

http://freespace.virgin.net/april.hunter/angel1.jpg

FRANCIS BACON portrayed as an ANGEL.
The ANGEL GABRIEL, announcing the coming of CHRIST.
But this BACON announces the ANTI-CHRIST.

http://www.snarksmith.com/images/051006/ahmadinejad.jpg

FRANCIS BACON and
AHMADINEJAD are born the
same date.

28 october.
That's the same date when the STATUE of LIBERTY was presented
to the Public.

http://www.inetours.com/New_York/Images/Liberty/Statue_of_Liberty_2691.jpg

FRANCIS BACON,
AHMADINEJAD and
.......LIBERTY.

[vera susa]

CARDINAL GEORGE PELL.

[vera susa]

Great Stuff 2013 and tintin, again!
Like I said, DEE, BACON; two of my 'favourites'.

But notice just how much, stories of "LOST & FOUND" BLOODLINES,
have been popping up lately.
Particularly "HOLY ROYAL" BLOODLINES.

They are getting ready to WAR over "HOLY RIGHT to RULE".

But RULE WHAT? Surely the deliberate destruction of the
NORTHERN HEMISPHERE, the AMERICAS and AFRICA,
while "HEDGING ABOUT", PROTECTING and GREATLY LIMITING
MIGRATION into SEVERELY UNDER-Populated AUSTRALIA,
to the "RIGHT" people, is a bit of a hint.


So we have The PRINCE of WALES who wanted to be
GOVERNOR GENERAL of AUSTRALIA (still remembering
his SCHOOL DAYS in VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA as his
HAPPIEST Times), and his son WILLIAM, also wanting
a "JOB IN OZ".

SCOTS/AUSSIE MARY DONALDSON,
mother of the future KING of DENMARK.

VICTORIAN/AUSSIE CARDINAL GEORGE PELL,
(said to caused RATZINGER to be Elected POPE)
"DISAPPEARED" off the list of CARDINAL ELECTORS.

And.....

Aussie Mike

the true King of England
September 11, 2005
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/aussie-mike-the-true-king-of-england/2005/09/10/1125772732666.html

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/09/10/true_king_wideweb__430x290.jpg
On the throne:
England's true monarch, Mike Hastings,
reflects at home in Jerilderie on what might have been.
Photo: Jacky Ghossein

Related
* Michael vs William
http://www.theage.com.au/ffxmedia/2005/09/10/true_king.jpg

The man named by historians as the rightful heir to the English throne
has a republican's disdain for the big job.
Matthew Benns enjoyed tea with the reluctant monarch.

BUCKINGHAM Palace would be run differently if Australian rice farmer
Michael Hastings successfully pursued his claim to the English throne.
"Well, I'd put a keg on
for the palace garden parties
and some party pies
instead of cucumber sandwiches
for a start," he says.

"And I'm thinking of sending Lizzie a bill
for 500 years of back rent on the palace, too."

It has been more than 18 months since a team of British historians
led by Tony Robinson — Baldrick in the Blackadder TV series —
turned up on the doorstep of his modest weatherboard home
in the southern NSW (New South WALES) town of Jerilderie
and told the 63-year-old widower he was the real King of England.

Mr Robinson and the team from the BBC, including scholar and historian Michael Jones, were making a program called Britain's Real Monarch.
Dr Jones had discovered strong proof that the 15th-century English monarch
Edward IV was illegitimate, thus throwing into question the legitimacy of all
the kings and queens who followed.

It appeared that the royal line should have extended not through Edward,
but through his brother George, Duke of Clarence, and his heirs.

"They arrived here and filmed my surprise
as they put the family tree down on the table," recalls Mr Hastings.

Dr Jones told him he believed Edward IV was the illegitimate son of an archer. "His parents were 200 miles apart at the time he was supposed
to have been conceived," says Mr Hastings. "The crown should have gone to Edward's brother George, Duke of Clarence, which is our line of the family."

The lie was perpetuated
for more than 500 years
and Mr Hastings,
descended from a Catholic Plantagenet
on the losing side of the civil wars
of the 15th century,
has been denied his throne.

"Who would bloody well want it, anyway?"
asks the man who should be known as King Mike I.

"I feel sorry for poor old Liz.
I think she has a very hard life
because it is so regimented.
I do what I want, but if Liz wants to sit in
and watch Fawlty Towers on TV, she can't."

The revelation has changed some things for Mr Hastings.
He has received a proposal of marriage.
"Some mad tart down in Melbourne
wrote to me and wanted to marry me," said the king,
who has received thousands of letters since the ABC screened
the documentary in May 2004.
"I haven't replied to one."

The revelations crystallised Mr Hastings' thoughts on his adopted country
and he is now a staunch republican.

The publicity also generated a personal call from the
NSW Minister for Citizenship, Gary Hardgrave.
"He called and asked if I would be interested in
taking out citizenship.
It was really pure laziness,
I just hadn't got round to filling out the damn forms.

"I consider myself an Aussie,
I cheered for Australia during the Ashes
and even bet a slab on it
with my brother-in-law in England."

Mr Hastings is also the 14th Earl of Loudoun
and has passed on to his daughters a castle,
manor house and gatekeeper's lodge
at the family's Leicestershire seat
of Ashby-de-la-Zouch.

Donnington Hall in Leicestershire
and Loudoun Castle in Scotland
have been sold off to pay death duties.
"I take my title very seriously indeed,
but the thing about being the King is a bit of a joke."

In Jerilderie, his old maroon Falcon attracts plenty of waves from his
neighbours, but that has more to do with his roles on the Shire Council,
Historical Society and Football Club than his lofty title.

At the Jerilderie Motor Inn, owner Bruce Crittenden insists that the 1000-strong population has been unaffected by the discovery of blue blood
in their midst.
"We just call him 'Kingsy' if we see him in the street,"
says Mr Crittenden with a laugh.

A triple-heart bypass operation earlier this year gave Mr Hastings time
to reflect on the events of his life.

After attending the elite Ampleforth school
with Andrew Parker Bowles,
the first husband of Prince Charles' wife, Camilla,
("a bloody nice bloke, by the way")
Mr Hastings headed to Australia in 1960.
"Me and my mate started selling Encyclopedia Britannicas in Bondi,
but it was so hot carrying the bloody things around that we started
going in the pubs, " he recalls.
"We got so drunk that we couldn't remember which one we left them in."

Instead, he headed out bush to a life as a jackaroo.
He met wife, Noelene,
by chatting her up as she operated the switchboard
on the local telephone exchange.
Eventually they settled in Jerilderie,
60 kilometres north of the Victorian border.

The couple had five children
and shared no inclination to return to England.

In 2002, Mr Hastings had his annus horribilis,
with the death of Noelene from breast cancer,
as well as the deaths of his mother and stepfather.
"I went back with my daughters and used my Earl title.
It is the best way to get attention in the old country."

But the true King of England found
he did not like the class system
and was glad to return home
to his job with Rice Research Australia.

"I am a republican.
I think we have progressed long enough
and far enough to stand on our own two feet.

"Now that might be a job I could do —
"I could volunteer to be Australia's first head of state."

But I don't know about a Republic,
with folk like Mike as KING,
who the hell would want to bother with elections anymore!

But what I love best about the "KING MIKE" story,
is his eldest Grandson's name, "JET".
I know, it should scare the shitter out any student of codes
(especially after that BBC Picture
of RED ARROW JETS,
"Flying AT" The QE2)
but it just tickles me that we have a
"PRINCE JET".

Oh and a little personal footnote;
as said about BACON, and is the case with many throughout history,
my maternal Grandfather was likewise taken from his mother
to be raised and educated in "The Baron's House" to the standard befitting
his "BLOOD".

Seems it was handy "Blood" to have to, as not only did it get his whole large family safely through two World Wars (bar one soldier son), and get him
the "PRISONER OF WAR" job of being the PERSONAL carriage driver
to the Top ENEMY General's WIFE and DAUGHTER
(who they WANTED him to marry), but got him 'tipped off'
to MIGRATE TO OZ,
instead of ENGLAND, AMERICA or CANADA.

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Yeah, funny how hard it is to ignore tiny, little, far away, Tasmania these days.

Even The Chasers "EULOGY SONG" takes us there,
and to the PORT ARTHER "Black Op.".

(Sorry, but could someone please post the clip, and teach me how to?)
Chaser Eulogy Song - YouTube

Now who sounds like the REAL MONSTER in the following article?

I'd say the "Journalist" who so clearly describes a PUPPET with
THE MIND OF A DAMAGED CHILD, which MARTIN BRYANT was
and still now has.


Port Arthur no joking matter

By John Hamilton

October 19, 2007 12:00am
Article from: Herald Sun
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22611794-5007146,00.html

ANDREW Hansen and Chris Taylor, you are both a bloody disgrace.

Your vile, tasteless song on the Chaser, slamming the dead, struck a new low for television, for the ABC's public accountability, and for pure sick-making gross offensiveness.

Why am I so upset?

It was your words in The Eulogy Song advising:

"It pays to throw away the facts and have a rose-coloured look...

"When he dies Martin Bryant will look like a saint."

There was nothing funny about the Port Arthur massacre, Andrew Hansen.

You sang the words written by Chris Taylor.

Nothing to see through rose-coloured glasses. Nothing saintly about Martin Bryant.

Alive or dead, he should always be remembered as mad, bad and possessed by the devil, an evil being who killed 35 people and who has ruined the lives of hundreds of others.

You see, Andrew, you smug, self-satisfied "comedian" tinkling away at your piano, looking for cheap laughs from a compliant studio audience, I was at Port Arthur 11 years ago.

I was with a group of reporters who shook their heads and quietly wept as the horror unfolded.

The police tour of the crime site took 2½ hours.

It culminated in a superintendent leading us to a place where there were green rugs and a piece of light-blue plastic sheeting held down by three orange road cones and a piece of broken branch from a gum tree.

I remember it as yesterday.

The blood trails trickled down the hill towards Port Arthur, then petered out.

"A mother was here with her two little girls, one aged three and one aged six," said the policeman.

"The gunman shot the mother and the young one and the six-year-old tried to hide behind that tree but he chased her and shot her."

His words hung on the air.

Tiny birds cheeped somewhere in the bush but they sounded still afraid and distant.

Then, Andrew, I was in the Hobart courtroom seven months later when Martin Bryant appeared.

Funny? Well, he thought so.

This is what I wrote then:

"Martin Bryant stood in the wooden dock in his sharp light blue suit. He smiled. He smirked. He sniggered. And he giggled. But it was at the ... 28th count of murder that he began to laugh out loud.

"Bryant stood there, hands in pockets, long tendrils of blond matted hair hanging down on each side of his flushed face, hanging like some rough woven hempen plaits around the face of a painted sailor doll.

"The judge's associate ... had been reading the charges for eight minutes when she reached the name that he recognised, the name that provoked the laughter.

"Nanette Mikac, wife and mother. 'How say you, are you guilty or not guilty?' asked the judge's associate.

"'Guilty,' said Martin Bryant, bobbing down as usual to mouth the words into microphones on the bench in front.

"He stood there, smiling, smirking, one hand now at his face, shielding his laughter as she read out the next two counts of murder, the children's names.

"'Count 51, Madeline Grace Mikac.' -- 'Guilty,' he laughed. 'Count 52. Alannah Louise Mikac.' -- 'Guilty,' he laughed again.

"By the 61st charge, one of attempted murder, Bryant was banging a hand on the rail in time with his glee and barely able to get the word 'guilty' out."

Andrew Hanson and Chris Taylor, you should now both appear on television and give an unreserved public apology to all those affected by the Port Arthur tragedy.

No smiling, smirking or sniggering.

Say sorry - and bloody well mean it.

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Boy that BBC just can't seem to give us enough ELEPHANTS lately,
which kinda keeps bringing us back to....

SCOTLAND/TASMANIA/ROYALS...
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http://www.portrait.gov.au/collection/2/176/lg_Portrait%20of%20HRH%20Crown%20Princess%20Mary%2 0of%20Denmark.jpg

Crown Princess Mary of Denmark
http://www.heraldryaustralia.org/images/denmark_frederik_and_mary.jpg
http://www.heraldryaustralia.org/images/denmark_frederik_and_mary.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.heraldryaustralia.org/news_and_events.htm&h=505&w=500&sz=129&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=ca61BgzNQoSJ4M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprincess%2Bmary%2Bof%2Bdenmark%2Borde r%2Bof%2Bthe%2Belephant%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Order of the Elephant
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/av/bbcnewslogo.gifScotland
Thursday, 18 October 2007
Elephants sense 'danger' clothes

Elephants
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44180000/jpg/_44180169_elephants203.jpg
Elephants associated the colour red with the Maasai

Sensing danger, watch at;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7046746.stm

Elephants can tell whether a human is a friend or foe by their scent and colour of clothing, according to Fife experts.

St Andrews University researchers found that elephants could recognise the degree of danger posed by different groups of individuals.

The study found African elephants reacted with fear when they detected the scent of garments previously worn by men of the Maasai tribe.

Maasai men are known to demonstrate their virility by spearing elephants.

Level of risk

The elephants also responded aggressively to red clothing, which is characteristic of traditional Maasai dress.

However, the elephants showed much milder reaction to clothing previously worn by the Kamba people, agriculturalists who pose little threat.

The psychologists said they had expected to find elephants might be able to distinguish among different human groups according to the level of risk they posed.

They said: "We were not disappointed. In fact, we think that this is the first time that it has been experimentally shown that any animal can categorise a single species of potential predator into subclasses based on such subtle cues."

Maasai man
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44180000/jpg/_44180173_maasai203.jpg
A young Maasai man, dressed in traditional garments

The researchers, Dr Lucy Bates and Professor Richard Byrne, first presented elephants with clean, red clothing and with red clothing that had been worn for five days by either a Maasai or a Kamba man.

They found that Maasai-scented clothing motivated elephants to travel significantly faster in the first minute after they moved away.

The elephants also travelled further in the first five minutes, and took significantly longer to relax after they stopped running away.

They then investigated whether elephants could also use garment colour as a cue to classify potential threat and found the elephants reacted with aggression towards red but not to white cloth. This suggested that they associated the colour red with the Maasai.


It may be that their abilities will turn out to equal or exceed those of our closer relatives, the monkeys and apes
Professor Richard Byrne
St Andrews University

The researchers believe the difference in the elephants' emotional reaction to odour versus colour might relate to the amount of risk they sense in the two situations, encouraged by a particularly keen sense of smell.

"With any scent of Maasai present, fear and escape reactions seem to dominate anything else," said Dr Bates.

Professor Byrne added: "While elephants can undoubtedly be dangerous when they come into conflict with humans, our data show that, given the opportunity, they would far rather run away, even before they encounter the humans in person.

"We see this experiment as just a start to investigating precisely how elephants 'see the world', and it may be that their abilities will turn out to equal or exceed those of our closer relatives, the monkeys and apes," he added.

The study is published online by Current Biology and will appear in the 20 November print issue.

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TASMANIAN
http://www.americancollegeofheraldry.org/thylacine.JPG
MICHAEL FRANCIS McCARTHY
KCHS (1950-2007)
http://www.americancollegeofheraldry.org/Selvester27d.JPG
Born January 20, 1950. Died August 3, 2007 suddenly at home at Darlinghurst.



Fond son of Norah Elizabeth (Scullion) and the late Francis John McCarthy, brother of Daniel and Thomas and uncle to their children. He was a former administrator at the School of Asian Studies, University of Sydney. He had been a seminarian in his youth but decided not to pursue the priesthood and he went home to Tasmania. He maintained strong links with the Church and in 2002 was invested as a Knight of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre. Recently he had been promoted to Knight Commander.



In 2003 he received a small grant from the National Library of Ireland to produce a book on the coats of arms of the bishops of Ireland. The beginnings of this were presented as a paper at the XXVIIth International Congress of Genealogical and Heraldic Sciences convened at St. Andrews, Scotland in 2006. The completed work is with the Chief Herald of Ireland for review. He was hoping for its completion and eventual publication book at the time of his death.



From an early interest in heraldry encouraged by Archbishop Bruno Heim during his appointment to the Court of St James’, Michael established Thylacine Press (named after extinct carnivorous marsupial from his native Tasmania) in 1998 to publish works on ecclesiastical heraldry, which would be given in the historical context in which particular Coats-of-Arms were and are used. At his death he was the author, primary illustrator and publisher of no less than seven books on heraldry. They are:

*
An Armorial of the Hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Australia, 1998
*
Heraldica Collegii Cardinalium, (Vol II), 2000
*
Armoria Sedium, 2001
*
Heraldica Collegii Cardinalium, (Vol I), 2001
*
A Manual of Ecclesiastical Heraldry, 2005
*
Dragonkind, 2007
*
Armoria Pontificalium, 2007

In addition, in 2001 and again in 2005 he published supplements to the Heraldica Collegii Cardinalium and a CD Rom updated version of the Armorial of the Australian Catholic Hierarchy was produced in 2005.



A fine artist and a keen scholar Michael's unique style was befriended, encouraged and heavily influenced by the late great Archbishop Bruno Heim as well as being influenced by the late Dom Anselm Baker, OCSO. Michael could often be seen to be "difficult" by those who didn't know him well. He had very strong opinions and didn't suffer fools gladly. However, after a disagreement it was often he who was the first to offer a conciliatory word. Horribly worried about the decaying state of heraldry in the Catholic Church Michael undertook to effect a revival of sorts building on the foundation laid by Heim. For those who will miss his work and his contributions to the world of ecclesiastical heraldry his efforts were certainly not in vain and he was somewhat successful in achieving his goals. It is a shame that his untimely death comes just as he was beginning to receive the recognition he so richly deserved as one of the world's leading scholars of heraldry as well as one of its finest heraldic artists. In his Manual of Ecclesiastical Heraldry he left a work of great practical utility to experts as well as to many amateurs.



Michael was a devout man with a dry but very quick sense of humor. He lived modestly in Darlinghurst and ran his pet project, Thylacine Press, out of his residence. His tiny cramped library was a treasure trove of heraldica! In recent years he began to look forward to a hoped-for return to his native Tasmania. He will be sorely missed by those who knew him personally and those who knew only his magnificent and prolific work.



In recent times Michael had been putting his art work into bound volumes for its protection and with a view to its ultimate bequest to the Vatican Library to which he left “all my library of heraldic books, manuscripts, illustrations, artwork and related material and all copyrights belonging to me whether in published or unpublished works.” He was a member of Heraldry Australia as well as the Society of Heraldic Artists.



The Mass of Christian Burial for Mr MICHAEL FRANCIS McCARTHY will be offered in St. Canice’s Church, Roslyn Street, Elizabeth Bay, on Tuesday (August 14, 2007), commencing at 10 a.m.



May He Rest In Peace.
http://www.heraldryaustralia.org/news_and_events.htm

who DESIGNED TASMANIAN/SCOTS
PRINCESS MARY of DENMARK'S COAT OF ARMS
and her father's,
JOHN DALGLEISH DONALSON
http://www.heraldryaustralia.org/images/denmark_john_donaldson.jpg

was one of these

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Crest_of_holy_sepulchre.jpg
Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem
http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/holysep.htm

Now what's also interesting is that the thylacine or
TASMANIAN TIGER,
is "Officially" EXTINCT,
but many a TASMANIAN Farmer would tell you otherwise,
if they wanted mobs of TASSIE TIGER Hunters tramping through their properties.

Kinda like old HOLY/ROYAL Bloodlines.....
that have a habit of being scattered around OZ[ION].

[vera susa]

My brother has just come back from portugal where maddy "disappeared", its only rumour but its on everyones lips over there, Gerry McCann is alledgedly a cousin of Gordon Brown..............could be why all the help!!

Well when you bother to look into the links (as above) of how "UNCOMMON"
Blooded, so many "SUCCESSFUL" 'commoners' are, it certainly doesn't sound like a 'wild rumour'.

But also, there has been an awful lot of NEWS of
WATER and BIN DUMPED,
DEAD,
Babies and Children lately.

The chilling thing about which though,
is that it IS MAKING THE NEWS
(BEING ADVERTISED),
because it has ALWAYS GONE ON,
but it used to ALWAYS be
KEPT OUT of 'The News'.

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http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185402_689766.jpg
Rising star and new mum:
Isla Fisher (file photo).
(Getty Images: Kevin Winter)

So of all the images "They" could have used for this News,
why this most UNFLATTERING image by "WINTER"....

Baby girl for Borat and Isla
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185402_689772.jpg
Posted 3 hours 18 minutes ago
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/19/2064356.htm?section=justin

Australian actress Isla Fisher
has given birth to a baby girl.

A spokeswoman for Fisher's agent, Shanahan Management,
had no other details.

It is the first child for Fisher, 31, and
fiance Sacha Baron Cohen -
the comedian behind characters
Borat and Ali G.

The couple got engaged in 2004
but have still not set a date for their wedding.

Fisher is best known in Australia for her role on the long-running soap
Home and Away.

She shot to prominence in the States
after starring in The Wedding Crashers,
alongside Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.

Earlier this year, the actress signed on to star in
the movie adaptation of the popular book Confessions of a Shopaholic.



Could it have something to do with
TELLING THE COHAN BLOODLINE
WHERE TO GO TO SURVIVE!

[vera susa]

If the McCanns are successful in having their suspect status removed we are heading for a massive media onslought.The primed machine of team McCann will spring into action.
They'll be in everything but the co-op window,live tv/radio interviews,talkshows,documentries you name it!
In the next couple of weeks we could be heading for a mass media emotional bloodbath,here in the UK.
To what end???

But also, there has been an awful lot of NEWS of
WATER and BIN DUMPED,
DEAD,
Babies and Children lately.

The chilling thing about which though,
is that it IS MAKING THE NEWS
(BEING ADVERTISED),
because it has ALWAYS GONE ON,
but it used to ALWAYS be
KEPT OUT of 'The News'.

Ten years ago, Pope John Paul 2, made WORLD NEWS,
REINSTATING 8 PEADOPHILE PRIESTS,
THAT THE AUSTRALIANS HAD SACKED.

NOW LOOK AT HOW MUCH MORE 'ACCEPTING'
THE WHOLE WORLD IS OF
THE CHILD SLAVE TRADE FOR SEX AND SACRIFICE.
("They" don't even call it SLAVERY anymore,
but chat away casually about "PEOPLE TRAFFICKERS")

THE McCANNS 'JOB' SEEMS TO BE TO DRIVE HOME
'THE MESSAGE' THAT CHILD KILLERS = 'GOOD',
CHILDREN = 'TOOLS TO SACRIFICE FOR PERSONAL ADVANCEMENT'.

AND AS WE KNOW;
IF THEY HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT,
IT MUST BE VERY, VERY BAD FOR YOU!

[tintin]

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bbc_logo.gif

The logo of the BBC.

Black and white.
The masonic colors.
But also a little hint.

BLACK IS WHITE and WHITE IS BLACK

BBC.
the B is the second letter and the c the third.
Then you get 223. But use the Black is White rule, reverse it
and what do you get?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Bones_logo.jpg/200px-Bones_logo.jpg

Skull and bones, room 322.
We all now BUSH is a YALIE, as was his father
and I have tried to show the importance of the
number 43, as that will be the DECISIVE President
and will start a world war.

The 43 President.

365 days in a year.
365 minus 322 is 43

So that BBC is worth a closer look.
It was founded by JOHN REITH.

http://www.historyofpa.co.uk/gfx/cw/2lo/JC-Reith.jpg

John Reith was a big
fan of ADOLF HITLER.

So, tells you something about friendly AUNTIE BEEB.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Bbc_logo_before_1970.png

This is the coat of arms of the BBC.
You see a LION on top.

The Director General is appointed by the BBC trust.
The CHAIRMAN of tat TRUST is this guy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/images/people/ml_bh.jpg

MICHAEL LYONS.
appointed first of MAY, this
year. BELTANE.

That logo was before 1970.

The year 2007 and the number 7.
In the Maddie McCann thread I have posted
lot's about that number, as seen in James Bond,
and the london bombings. 777. and 007.
You see 7 stars of david around the world.
You see TWIN eagles.
And you see a mask of a KNIGHT.

Yesterday the BBC had it's birthday.
It was founded in 1922.

Mark Thompson is the current General Director.
he went to STONY-hurst college. (stone connection. We
are looking for KEY-STONES. Remember that
the AMERICAN presidents in Mount RUSHMORE are
STONES, or should we say "STONED", like George Bush
seems to be all the time with his ridiculous remarks.

Mount Rushmore is near KEYSTONE.

the BBC is the biggest broadcasting company in the world.
So, incredibly important.
BBC pictures is a nice example of their DAILY messages.
And the message is NOT VERY PLEASANT.

So yesterday it's birthday.
The day SARKOZY and CECILIA ciganer announced their divorce.
SARKOZY and the FRENCH CONNECTION.

http://www.geocities.com/lclane2/Pics/allsoul1.jpg

The BBC building next to a giant THORN,
like DAMIEN THORN.

http://www.hecklerspray.com/imppix/photos/uncategorized/weakestlink.jpg

ANN ROBINSON. The face of the BBC.
Hugely popular with her daily show.
she's the QUEEN of MEAN.
And she's fantastically funny. it's my favourite show.

So, think I have that in common with another
fellow. JESUS.

http://z.about.com/d/top40/1/0/8/8/simong1969.jpg

And here's to you
Mrs Robinson, jesus loves
you more than you will know,
God bless you please Mrs Robinson.

That guy Jesus has a pretty good taste.
But there is more Symbolism in Ann Robinson.

Her marriage has SHIPWRECKED recently.
So poor ANNE now lives on an ISLAND again.
like ROBINSON CRUSOE.

Sitting on a sofa on
a sunday afternoon,
going to the candidate's debate
laugh about it, shout
about it, when you've got
to choose, every way you
look at this you lose....

Now the WEAKEST LINK is a QUIZ show with
9 Candidates that one by one are voted off.
But it's the little "debates" Anne Robinson has with
the candidates that make the show.
The candidates have to CHOOSE which
player they vote away.

But there is another ANN ROBINSON and that MESSAGE
is a bit more DISTURBING.

http://www.gorila.sk/i/imgs_orig/910/38910.jpg

ANN ROBINSON in
WAR of the WORLDS.

Now look again when the TOP guy from the BBC was
appointed. That was the first of may.
Holy illuminati day. The BAVARIAN illuminati. 1776.
Same year as America was "born".

1776 is 888 plus 888.
Prince Alexander of Orange is MEROVINGIAN KING or
the ANTI-Christ.
He's the 888 water manager.


DUTCH QUEENSDAY is CELEBRATED ON BELTANE.
30 April.
So Beltane and the BBC and ANN ROBINSON.

Ann Robinson was born
FIRST OF MAY, beltane.

http://www.koningkeizerrijken.info/emily-bremers-02.jpg

THE MEROVINGIAN KING.
The PRINCE of ORANGE.

When he goes incognito he uses the
name of
W.A. van BUREN

Ann Robinson was
SYLVIA VAN BUREN in
WAR of the WORLDS.

Willem Alexander is the water manager, and WATER is the
most important thing of all.

so when you see a LION on top of the BBC;they
mean the DUTCH lion......

Anyway, will think a bit about how to help
poor Anne Robinson, now she's shipwrecked
and on a lonely island....
How about a nice little CRUISE Mrs Robinson?

[illuminotti]

Vera Susa why are you posting your answers off the madeleine thread on this one too??? thought i'd lost it for a second when i read my own question on here

[vera susa]

Vera Susa why are you posting your answers off the madeleine thread on this one too??? thought i'd lost it for a second when i read my own question on here

Well I could ask "YOU" why "YOU" like to derail topics with silly snipes instead 'asking "YOUR" question' in a PM, but instead I'll ask why "YOU" aren't asking tintin and countless others the same question?... because..."AS IF", "YOU" haven't noticed, a lot of posts DO HAVE RELEVANCE across related topics,
and so, like MANY other BS, airy fairy, feel good and do as 'good' as crystal meth, posts, get repeated all over the place.

Oh, and I'll answer that question of mine to...to save readers wasting more time reading another of "YOUR", 'go nowhere snipes'; "YOU" and I (I am an actual, real, independent, individual), have 'Crossed Swords' before... and "YOU" lost then to.

[tintin]

http://www.nijmegencentraal.nl/images/145_4581.jpg

Dutch writer Jan Wolkers dies.
But there is a bit more to his death.

He's from the litlle isle of TEXEL.
Wich is an anagram for TELEX.

So what message is there. TEXEL and TEXAS.
That points to BUSH.

On 6 july (bush's birthday) it was annonced that
Jan Wolkers would write the NATIONAL DICTEE.

That's a sort of national spelling exam on live TV.
Anyway, but he is dead now.
He was seen as one of the big four writers in Holland.

He died just 7 days before his 82nd birthday.

http://www.tangischools.org/schools/phs/think/man/tibbets.jpg

See the number? 82.
just 7 days short of 82......
The Enola gay, the plane that dropped the first atom bomb.

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00387/plaatjes/Turks_Fruit.jpg

Most famous work is TURKISH Fruit.
TUR-KEY. A KEY state.
Bordering the BLACK SEA.

Jan wolkers had a little CHILD that died in his BATH.
So water and the BLACK sea.
But here is the reason why I think this
is more than just a normal death.

http://www.jhm.nl/jhm/afbeeldingen/amsterdam/09-auschwitzmon2a%20kl.jpg

He is the artist that designed the
AUSCHWITZ monument.
Lot's of fuzz about that monument because it's been
vandalised a few times.

http://www.tv-willemijn.nl/wp-content/auschwitzherdenking.jpg

Amsterdam was called the JERUSALEM of the north, because
of it's "jewish" character. There lived about a 120 000 jews
in amsterdam, and most died in the war.
On a percantage basis the most jews that died were
the dutch jews.
Amsterdam has a JEWISH mayor with an ominous name.

JOB COHEN

http://www.stcamsterdam.nl/img/job_cohen.jpg

Just like MESSENGER BBC he had his birthday yesterday.
And look at what the DOW JONES closed at yesterday.
Prince Alexander of Orange is the 888 watermanager.
He's the guy from SEVILLA.

He and princess MAXIMA met each other in SEVILLA.
Half of the important OPERA's are located in Sevilla.
Sevilla is the 888 twon.

888 stands for the NIGHT and the FLOOD.

http://mm.servifutbol.com/Espa%C3%B1ol/Deportes/Mercafutbol/Noticias/sevilla-chevanton-888-dest.jpg

No EIGHT No Acht. NOACH. Non Otte, NOTTE. Non Oche NOCHE.

http://www.1uptravel.com/flag/images/e/es-se-se.gif

THE MOTTO of SEVILLA.
No eight. NIGHT.

So that DOW JONES yesterday.

13.888. 96

Followed by a HUGE drop today....

The DOW dropped
366.94 Today. A nice 669 in the middle.
The S and P closed at 1500.63

Bu told you WILLEM ALEXANDER is THE 888 watermanager,
the Merovingian king.
He married at 2-2-2002.

http://www.koningsfan.dse.nl/waenmaxhuwelijk.jpg

Yesterday the 888Dow
and today we have this
closing number.
13.522.02

The prince married 2-2 02....
13, the number of the SATANIC Merovingian bloodline.
5 the number of death and
222 as the number of the Antichrist.... (222+666=888)

[vera susa]

Amsterdam was called the JERUSALEM of the north, because
of it's "jewish" character. There lived about a 120 000 jews
in amsterdam, and most died in the war.
On a percantage basis the most jews that died were
the dutch jews.
Amsterdam has a JEWISH mayor with an ominous name.

JOB COHEN

http://www.stcamsterdam.nl/img/job_cohen.jpg

Just like MESSENGER BBC he had his birthday yesterday.



And so did
AUSSIE ISLA FISHER
&
SACHA BARON COHAN'S
BABY....
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22614661-23109,00.html

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185402_689766.jpg
Rising star and new mum:
Isla Fisher (file photo).
(Getty Images: Kevin Winter)

So of all the images "They" could have used for this News,
why this most UNFLATTERING image by "WINTER"....

Baby girl for Borat and Isla
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r185402_689772.jpg
Posted 3 hours 18 minutes ago
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/19/2064356.htm?section=justin

Australian actress Isla Fisher
has given birth to a baby girl.

A spokeswoman for Fisher's agent, Shanahan Management,
had no other details.

It is the first child for Fisher, 31, and
fiance Sacha Baron Cohen -
the comedian behind characters
Borat and Ali G.

The couple got engaged in 2004
but have still not set a date for their wedding.

Fisher is best known in Australia for her role on the long-running soap
Home and Away.

She shot to prominence in the States
after starring in The Wedding Crashers,
alongside Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.

Earlier this year, the actress signed on to star in
the movie adaptation of the popular book Confessions of a Shopaholic.



Could it have something to do with
TELLING THE COHAN BLOODLINE
WHERE TO GO TO SURVIVE!



Also, we now have a whole collection of
BODIES IN SUITCASES stories
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7050549.stm
spanning over EIGHT Years.

Sounds like the time to pack, move, get out ALIVE,
has almost run out, especially as like the "ADAM",
'Torso in the Themes', this latest one was also
found in WATER....and .....



Waters of Rome's
Trevi fountain turn red

From correspondents in Rome

October 20, 2007 03:29am
Article from: Reuters
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22617826-23109,00.html

ROME'S Trevi fountain turned into
a blood red pool yesterday
after colouring was dumped into the water, police said.

Police found a box of leaflets nearby in which
a previously unknown group called
the “FTM Futuristic Action 2007”
claimed responsibility.

The group says it seeks to defend the unemployed,
old and sick, among others.

Actress Anita Ekberg famously frolicked in the fountain's pool
in the 1960s film La Dolce Vita.

Earlier this year, a 40-year-old office clerk made headlines
when she swam naked in the fountain in front of a crowd of tourists.

[tintin]

THe BIRTH of ISLA FISHER's
Daughter is a very bad
OMEN!

Isla Fisher was born in
OMAN, right in
the heart of the
Strait of Hormuz.[/COLOR][/B]

http://www.atlantic-cable.com/CableCos/TelegraphIsland/OmanMapD.jpg

That's where the action will be.
And click that link about Isla Fisher and
you see that the story ends with
Sacha Baron Cohen and Isla in a hotel
where they chatted with SEAN PENN, Jennifer Connolly
and PAUL BETTANY.

So here a few curious little facts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/AliG-Harv.jpg

Sacha Baron Cohen as ALI G.
In the MADELEINE thread you can read about the
importance of the city of LEICESTER in all the Symbolism.

Ali G stands for
ALISTAIR LESLIE GRAHAM.

Alistair and Leicester. Have posted about the ALISTAIR CROWLEY
link to Madeleine.

ALI G. AG.

The G. The Seventh letter.
The SEVEN O'Clock EYE of Madeleine.

IMDB tells us that
sacha is born on
TEMPLAR's DAY. 13 october.

Wiki gives 14 October. Dutch wiki, 13 october.
Anyway, but that's another VERY BAD OMEN.
Isla fisher. An ISLAND. That Jan wolkers guy comes dfrom
a little Island.

Surviving? Well you need to get to that BIG ISLAND in the SOUTH.

And look at the guys they were chatting with.
SEAN PENN, former hubby of MADONNA, who married
on 27 April, Prince Alexander's birthday.

And Paul Betanny?

Paul Bettany, best know for his role as GEOFFREY CHAUCER
in a KNIGHTS TALE.
Chaucer was born probably in the year 1343. 13 and 43. Bush 43.

And Paul Bettany played the OPUS DEI KILLER SILAS
in the DA VINCI CODE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Silascode.PNG

All about KNIGHTS as well.

So Sacha BARON Cohen
Of course known also as BORAT.

So go to wiki and BORAT.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Borat_in_Cologne.jpg

WHERE IS HIS THUMB
POINTING AT? AT the RIGHT
EYE. Reminds you of something?

http://www.yaps4u.net/images/MadeleineMcCannDistinctiveRightEyeIdenti_137B3/mccann2.jpg

Templars, knights, eyes...and Australia.

[tintin]

On the anniversary of BLACK
MONDAY, 1987, we have a
BLACK Friday today.

Now there is another day in Stockmarket history
known a BLACK MONDAY.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/crash/homeimages/main.jpg

The great Crash of 1929. Monday 28 October is
the day best remembered altough it crashed on more days.
Now that day is the start of the 43rd week of the year.
And it's AHMADINEJAD's birthday......

http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/schools/image/crash.jpg

http://www.freedom.hu/IIvh/Esemenyek/1939-41/pics/pearl/crash_1929s.jpg

We also had an OSCAR winning movie recently
called CRASH.

http://www.trailerdownload.net/dvd/Crash.jpg

With SANDRA BULLOCK.

A crash means the BULL MARKET is over.
the BULL is dead and buried.

So Sandra BULLOCK.
She's from ARLINGTON VIRGINIA.
The NATIONAL CEMETARY.

And the director of that movie was PAUL HAGGIS.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Paul_Haggis_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/220px-Paul_Haggis_by_David_Shankbone.jpg

See the LETTERS left above.

OS

OZ is the safe haven for the Elite when the
whole world will crash.

Paul Haggis also created this TV series.

http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/walker/assets/main.jpg

Walker and the TEXAS RANGERS?
Walker is DUBYA. WALKER BUSH.

http://www.springtrainingtours.com/images/texaslogo.jpg

DUBYA WALKER BUSH
OWNED THE TEXAS RANGERS.

So combine it again.
CRASH, the OSCAR winning movie from Paul haggis.
The WALKER TEXAS RANGER and George Bush.

Walker Texas ranger.
Number of episodes:

203 = 666

2 divided by 3 is 0.666

But look at the guy that stands on the
right in that TEXAS WALKER picture.

That's Noble Willingham.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/es/images/thumb/1/11/Noblewillingham.jpg/200px-Noblewillingham.jpg

NOBLE? ah yes, the NOBEL prize.
Alfred NOBEL the inventor of DYNAMITE.

He was born 31 AUGUST, that's the day DIANA DIED.
But look where he was born

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Mineola_street_scene_1.JPG

MINEOLA Texas.

That place is called MINEOLA but before that it was
called

SODOM

But look at the last five letters of that name. MINEOLA.
That Is NEOLA. NEOLA is an anagram of ENOLA

http://www.tangischools.org/schools/phs/think/man/tibbets.jpg

The plane that dropped
the first ATOM BOMB.

MINEOLA.
MI plus NEOLA.

MI 5. or MI 6.
and also M EYE. The EYE of MADELEINE
M EYE and ENOLA.

And just look at the pic from WIKI of MINEOLA.
We see a RED light. RED ALERT folks.....

[2013]

http://www.nijmegencentraal.nl/images/145_4581.jpg

Dutch writer Jan Wolkers dies.
But there is a bit more to his death.

He's from the litlle isle of TEXEL.
Wich is an anagram for TELEX.

So what message is there. TEXEL and TEXAS.
That points to BUSH.

On 6 july (bush's birthday) it was annonced that
Jan Wolkers would write the NATIONAL DICTEE.

That's a sort of national spelling exam on live TV.
Anyway, but he is dead now.
He was seen as one of the big four writers in Holland.

He died just 7 days before his 82nd birthday.

http://www.tangischools.org/schools/phs/think/man/tibbets.jpg

See the number? 82.
just 7 days short of 82......
The Enola gay, the plane that dropped the first atom bomb.

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00387/plaatjes/Turks_Fruit.jpg

Most famous work is TURKISH Fruit.
TUR-KEY. A KEY state.
Bordering the BLACK SEA.

Jan wolkers had a little CHILD that died in his BATH.
So water and the BLACK sea.
But here is the reason why I think this
is more than just a normal death.

http://www.jhm.nl/jhm/afbeeldingen/amsterdam/09-auschwitzmon2a%20kl.jpg

He is the artist that designed the
AUSCHWITZ monument.
Lot's of fuzz about that monument because it's been
vandalised a few times.

http://www.tv-willemijn.nl/wp-content/auschwitzherdenking.jpg

Amsterdam was called the JERUSALEM of the north, because
of it's "jewish" character. There lived about a 120 000 jews
in amsterdam, and most died in the war.
On a percantage basis the most jews that died were
the dutch jews.
Amsterdam has a JEWISH mayor with an ominous name.

JOB COHEN

http://www.stcamsterdam.nl/img/job_cohen.jpg

Just like MESSENGER BBC he had his birthday yesterday.
And look at what the DOW JONES closed at yesterday.
Prince Alexander of Orange is the 888 watermanager.
He's the guy from SEVILLA.

He and princess MAXIMA met each other in SEVILLA.
Half of the important OPERA's are located in Sevilla.
Sevilla is the 888 twon.

888 stands for the NIGHT and the FLOOD.

http://mm.servifutbol.com/Espa%C3%B1ol/Deportes/Mercafutbol/Noticias/sevilla-chevanton-888-dest.jpg

No EIGHT No Acht. NOACH. Non Otte, NOTTE. Non Oche NOCHE.

http://www.1uptravel.com/flag/images/e/es-se-se.gif

THE MOTTO of SEVILLA.
No eight. NIGHT.

So that DOW JONES yesterday.

13.888. 96

Followed by a HUGE drop today....

The DOW dropped
366.94 Today. A nice 669 in the middle.
The S and P closed at 1500.63

Bu told you WILLEM ALEXANDER is THE 888 watermanager,
the Merovingian king.
He married at 2-2-2002.

http://www.koningsfan.dse.nl/waenmaxhuwelijk.jpg

Yesterday the 888Dow
and today we have this
closing number.
13.522.02

The prince married 2-2 02....
13, the number of the SATANIC Merovingian bloodline.
5 the number of death and
222 as the number of the Antichrist.... (222+666=888)

What do you make of this then concerning the number 8
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=164439#post164439
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164439&postcount=25
Quote:
Originally Posted by castle

It takes around 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach our eyes. So when you see the sun you actually see the sun as it was around 8 minutes ago and there's no guarantee that in those 8 minuets it hasn't disappeared.

Science fact is much stranger than science fiction.

The movement of the sun creates the pattern of a number eight , its on a thread here somewhere if i find it again i'll link it .Also the buddah followed the eight fold path and all the cells in your body die off and renew themselves every seven years apart from the original 8 cells located in the sloar plexus where buddah contemplated his navel .The original cell divides into 2 then 4 then 8 and so on but the original 8 remain the same number of minutes it takes the light from the sun to reach us sun the same pattern it transcribes in the sky the number of infinity.The greek name of jesus relates to 888 as they have numbers for letters as well .Maybe thisisthe true vibration of this universe an octave is 8 musical vibration the music of the spheres ,maybe that is why 666 the beast is at odds with this dimension ?
__________________:D

[tintin]

Interesting.
Escpecially that sun thing.
We are all prisoners of the SUN cult, and the number 8
is the only number without an ESCAPE ROUTE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/Tintin_cover_-_Prisoners_of_the_Sun.JPG

In that album TINTIN uses a SOLAR ECLIPSE to escape
being BURNED alive.

To be free you have to break free from the SUN CULT.
And the artist ESCHER also paints the number eight as a PRISON.

http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/escher/ants.jpg

The number 8 as a sort of ETERNAL cycle.

[illuminotti]

Well I could ask "YOU" why "YOU" like to derail topics with silly snipes instead 'asking "YOUR" question' in a PM, but instead I'll ask why "YOU" aren't asking tintin and countless others the same question?... because..."AS IF", "YOU" haven't noticed, a lot of posts DO HAVE RELEVANCE across related topics,
and so, like MANY other BS, airy fairy, feel good and do as 'good' as crystal meth, posts, get repeated all over the place.

Oh, and I'll answer that question of mine to...to save readers wasting more time reading another of "YOUR", 'go nowhere snipes'; "YOU" and I (I am an actual, real, independent, individual), have 'Crossed Swords' before... and "YOU" lost then to.


im not sniping it was a question............and as for losing last time, if you look i never answered you cuz cannot be bothered, didnt think this place was where you have to compete to win or lose....and now well i think you post in here from other threads because you are that arrogant, that you cant bear thinking someone may miss reading something so important as what you wrote...........o and i prefer tintins to yours and dont see him repeating threads.......swords uncrossed

[majicdragon]

I think tintin is an extraordinary genius. I sometimes skim straight to him and past the others... Like fast forwarding through the commercials. Always here, always reading, always a fan, I don't even like posting on such threads as my post would pale.... It would be a road bump.

Tin-tin, So entertaining, and yet informative.

[tintin]

I think tintin is an extraordinary genius. I sometimes skim straight to him and past the others... Like fast forwarding through the commercials. Always here, always reading, always a fan, I don't even like posting on such threads as my post would pale.... It would be a road bump.

Tin-tin, So entertaining, and yet informative.

Completely agree with you!!

Ha, but seriously, thanks for the compliment.
Yeah, I try to find a bit of a balance between
the entertainment and the info.
Like to expose all those things in a bit
of a "light" way. The facts are heavy enough in itself...

[majicdragon]

It's fun to learn with tintin.

a good name for a future post.

And look at all the views... 1000 Ickers can't be wrong.

[john white]

Well I could ask "YOU" why "YOU" like to derail topics with silly snipes instead 'asking "YOUR" question' in a PM, but instead I'll ask why "YOU" aren't asking tintin and countless others the same question?... because..."AS IF", "YOU" haven't noticed, a lot of posts DO HAVE RELEVANCE across related topics,
and so, like MANY other BS, airy fairy, feel good and do as 'good' as crystal meth, posts, get repeated all over the place.

Oh, and I'll answer that question of mine to...to save readers wasting more time reading another of "YOUR", 'go nowhere snipes'; "YOU" and I (I am an actual, real, independent, individual), have 'Crossed Swords' before... and "YOU" lost then to.

True-Lilly is starting up I see

I think tintin is an extraordinary genius. I sometimes skim straight to him and past the others... Like fast forwarding through the commercials. Always here, always reading, always a fan, I don't even like posting on such threads as my post would pale.... It would be a road bump.

Tin-tin, So entertaining, and yet informative

Well maybe. Cruise may or may not a "genius" but he does have a tormented dark side

Malvern Messages is waiting for you "TinTin" when your ready to come and explain yourself and your recent behaviour

[tintin]

True-Lilly is starting up I see



Well maybe. Cruise may or may not a "genius" but he does have a tormented dark side

Malvern Messages is waiting for you "TinTin" when your ready to come and explain yourself and your recent behaviour

Ha,ha.
A few beers, some ranting, and you have a dark side....

[vera susa]

True-Lilly is starting up I see



Well maybe. Cruise may or may not a "genius" but he does have a tormented dark side

Malvern Messages is waiting for you "TinTin" when your ready to come and explain yourself and your recent behaviour

ha ha ha
quite the contrary, "John White and The Pack" are starting up again,
with their off topic sniping followed by selectively quoting who started what,
but it's all good, I've retired and now
just have FUN WATCHING "YOUR" GAMES,
and joining in with a bit of "KICK to KICK".

Of course, if any real conspiracy researchers want to search through
the "Full Record of Events", for who's REALLY "DARK" and who has a
CONSISTENT MESSAGE OF GOOD NEWS over 'hope' and DOOM...
who NEEDS to be LORDED as a GURU,
TELLING folk what they "SHOULD BELIEVE",
and who points folks to where they can MAKE THEIR OWN DISCOVERIES,
they'll also figure out why I'm locked out of joining/posting on all the 'Sister Sites' claiming to be independent and even 'competing against' each other, that "THOSE NAMES" WORK ON....and that wouldn't be very good for the advancement of "YOUR" SECRET Agenda, so maybe you should just grow up
and leave folk to make up their own mind about shared FACTUAL Information.

This, ARROGANT NEED to treat readers like fellow 3rd graders, running to declare who your 'friends' can and can't talk to, is one of the biggest give aways of "YOUR" BLOODY DARK ULTIMATE INTENT.

So, back on topic;
have you got any NEWS behind the NEWS to point out for us,
"John White"?
Or should we FINISH what I did NOT start...on another thread of course...


BBC Week in pictures: 13-19 October
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7053260.stm
(a great selection of WARNING REBUS Puzzles this week)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44187000/jpg/_44187087_bbc_pa_416.jpg
The BBC announced the closure of some, 2,500 posts
as part of a cost-cutting exercise.
Many of the losses are in the news and current affairs department.

Well of course, now that we've shown so many how to 'read' their
REBUS Puzzles!

Speaking of which, did anyone manage to catch the first of the new series of
"REBUS"?

It featured how a serial killer and his brother,
of an Elite Family,
communicated with each other
through CODED IMAGES and
their own CODED LANGUAGE.

[john white]

Well groovy gang, I know what you two are like, and I know that you'll blow it here with no interferance from me, becuase all it will take is a few people to question the veracity of the stream of co-incidence stuff you do and the psychosis fear and paranoia will come through... heck, even 2Tuff had enough of you!

But you should be careful Cruise: your recent actions are legally actionable after all

[tintin]

Now here is an example how to
read the news.

http://pratchett.org/Portals/0/PratImg/NewsPics/Making_Money_Paul_Kidby.jpg

Terry Pratchett. Brilliant and incredibly funny author.

But this book about MAKING MONEY.
Vera Susa pointed at the RUGBY Connection in here.
There is a Australian Rugby connection (As Australia is the
land where the ultimate money is) and there is a GOLD connection.

You see that kind of oval spot of light on top of that DOLLAR.
A sort of RUGBY ball. and the coin in the air as well.

Now in AUSTRALIA Geelong won the title.

http://www.footystamps.com/images/2006/Local%20Post/Captains/b_gcctsk.jpg

See the COIN on that Pratchett cover.
the big star in the AUSTRALIAn FINAL was

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200605/r85151_249440.jpg

CAMERON MOONEY.

So a combination of MONEY and James cameron.
The TITANIC and the Terminator.
The money sustem will sink like the titanic.
And you have to buy GOLD and/or go to Australia.

GEELONG won with
a record margin of 119.

So a big RUGBY WARNING. And a big hint to go to OZ.
Now yesterday was the WORLD CUP final
in PARIS.

England versus South Africa.
South Africa won. 15-6. (15 =555, 15 +6 = 21. 777)

See the Terry pratchett cover?
Making money?

http://www.liquidshirts.com/graphics/rugby/PR60L.gif

HALF OF THE WORLD's
GOLD COMES FROM SOUTH
AFRICA.

South Africa is GOLD COUNTRY.
So now look at the SPRINGBOK. What is he doing?
He jumps. And his colors are the Ozzie colors.
The ELITE tells you in secret that you have to
land here.

http://www.syezd2007.com/Travel%20logos/qantas_logo.gif

Qantas, the only AIRLINE in the world without any casualties.

Yes, and there is more.
In the MADELEINE thread you can see all kind of
links to the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR.
And To WARS, IRAN and BUSH.

Now look who was the big star in this final.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Percymontgomery.jpg

PERCIVAL MONTGOMERY.

PARSIFAL.

http://www.camelot4colors.com/parsifal.gif

PARSIFAL and the quest
for the HOLY GRAIL.

And who was in charge of OPERATION OVERLORD in NORMANDY?
that was GENERAL MONTGOMERY.
D DAY. The 6th of june. Same day the OMEN was released last year.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Bernard_Law_Montgomery.jpg

NORMANDY. Like the SHARK, Ozzy golfer Greg NORMAN.
The PERSIAN GULF. (GOLF).

NORMAN and PERSIA,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Greg_Norman_biog_1998.jpg

So NORMANDY , the SHARK and MONTGOMERY.
where was the final yesterday?

PARIS.

All important city.
The CODE city from the DA VINCI CODE.
So what happened just two days ago?

"SHARK"-OZY and CECILIA
are divorcing.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6908/sarkozyinbedgk9.jpg

Cecilia, making love in the
afternoon up in my bedroom.

But that's not going to happen anymore.

Cecilia, i am down on
my knees, I am begging you
please to come home....

Won't happen Nicholas...

[tintin]

And for all those folks who dismiss
these things as complete nonsense.
Just go to WIKIPEDIA. One of the Supreme
message sites together with the BBC.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Gerg_Norman_visit_USS_John_F_Kennedy.jpg/761px-Gerg_Norman_visit_USS_John_F_Kennedy.jpg

GREG "THE SHARK" NORMAN
on board the
USS KENNEDY.

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/USS-John-F-Kennedy-Print-C10001659.jpeg

What FFS has a GOLFER
to do with an AMERICAN
WAR SHIP?

But some people don't get the message loud and clear.
So WIKIPEDIA repeats it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Tiger_Woods_2004.jpg/327px-Tiger_Woods_2004.jpg

FROM WIKIPEDIA.

TIGER WOODS ON THE
USS GEORGE WASHINGTON.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tactics/Carrier.jpg

What FFS has TIGER
WOODS to do with an
AMERICAN War Ship?

I mean folks, they are GOLFERS.
But then again, those WARSHIPS go to the PERSIAN GOLF.
So maybe WIKI is more clever than we think.....

GULf is GOLf in German. GOLF in france.

[klinker]

:confused: So should I go to Australia or not?

[tintin]

:confused: So should I go to Australia or not?

Well, let me put it this way.
Some areas are more dangerous than others.
So the WHOLE middle east will be a giant mess.
I wouldn't want to live for a day close to Tehran.

But via the financial crash it will spill over to the rest
of the world.
And California, for instance is also set up for a giant fall.

In secret codes the ELITE are telling their brothers and sisters to
go to Oz. On the unhived mind forum we have given thousands
of examples for that.

They secretly are buying up that whole country and from
those sidelines they want to see the world descent into HELL.
But it's of course a bit difficult to give an exact timeline.
But in general: The sooner in australia, the better.
The whole north will be in chaos.

Sounds a bit Gloomy, but, that's what they are now increasingly
messaging to each other. BBC pictures for instance
is a good example, or Wiki.

[vera susa]

Well groovy gang, I know what you two are like,
WE COULDN'T BE MORE DIFFERENT....THE FACT THAT WE'RE FROM OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC SPECTRUM AND OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE WORLD, BUT STILL KEEP TRIPPING OVER THE SAME 'KEY' SUBJECT MATTER, AND YET STILL, FIND DIFFERENT 'KEY' SUBJECTS IN NEED OF FURTHER EXPLORATION, SHOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE KEEN EAR.

AND EVEN MORE KNOWING BS FROM "JOHN WHITE"...
I ASKED TO BE BANNED from "Craig Oxley/2tuff's" site,
AFTER SYNERGY GOT BANNED & ACCUSED OF TRYING TO 'POACH' CRUISE AND MYSELF TO OTHER SITES"
(SEE, 2TUFF/CRAIG OXLEY/"THEM", couldn't get anywhere near the hits,
OUR THREAD brought that site), SO NOW "JOHN WHITE" NEEDS TO THREATEN CRUISE/tintin, with 'POTENTIAL' "legal action",
for want of ANY counter argument to the REAL WORLD FACTS we've been FREELY SHARING....!!!!!


Well anyway, I had another good night of Pool tonight, mixed with a bit of 'conversation' with Anglo/Euro/Native-Blooded Aussie folk, about OZ[ION].....and well, give it up "John White" and fellow SHILLS...a whole herd of horses have bolted, and it really is very embarrassing for "You" and your ilk, to keep trying to shut to stable door and sell us an ass for a thoroughbred.

IRO,
CIGGY,
JONH WHITE,
BEAUTIFUL MEDUSA,
and the rest of "The Pack", have been well and truly busted,
KNOWINGLY LYING about The Great Southern Land,
in an effort to hide the FACT that The Creator KEPT and KEEPS
ALL His Promises.

Apologies to the newer and more gentle minded readers who are not
aware of the 'history' between the "John White's" and myself,
but if I bit my tongue any harder, I'd drown in my own blood.

Just note that "he" can only resort to personal attacks against the INDEPENDENT people who CARE to SHOW the Real World 'game plan'
being played out, because "he" still has no sound counter arguments
to offer against the many FACTS of this Real World presented by
those of us who aren't INVESTED IN SELLING a 'Conspiracy Guru' persona.

And now, all "Their" DELIBERATE DISTRACTIONS aside;
there are ONLY 21 million people in all of URANIUM, OIL, COAL, GAS, GOLD, SILVER, DIAMOND, IRON, LEAD, ZINC, et-bloody-cetera RICH OZ (301 Million in America which has LESS Safe, Stable Productive land)....so why isn't the world warring here, over what we HAVE and "They" NEED?

[tintin]

So here another example of how THEY
give messages in SECRET codes.

On the STOCK MARKET we have a so called
HINDENBURG OMEN.

That's a technical indicator that precedes declines or even crashes.
Now this year we have a GIANT HINDENBURG OMEN.

http://www.loeser.us/examples/himages/hind1.jpg

The MADELEINE McCANN
case is a GIANT
HINDENBURG OMEN.

And what that OMEN really means I hope to explain.

So we go back to the year 1937.
37 is a templar number as 1307 is the templar year.
The Zeppelin departs from FRANKFURT.

That's the first FINANCIAL link. Frankurt is the headquarters
of the ECB.

Departure 3 may, the
date Madeleine disappeared.

Ok. nothing special. Can happen. More things happen on 3 may.
Final destination is the coronation of KING GEORGE in
westminster Abbey in london.

DESTINATION DATE is
12 may, madeleines birthday.

OK. Now it starts to be a bit more suspicious.
And remember Maddie's EYE. It's at 7 O'Clock.
The Hindenburg disaster is exactly 70 years before Madeleine.

The Hindenburg is named after Paul von Hindenburg.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Paul_von_Hindenburg.jpeg

This friendly fellow is Paul von Hindenburg.
He was the second president of germany and

He became PRESIDENT
12 may, MADELEINE's birthday.

OK folks, I am a very patient guy, but this starts to
look very suspicious.

The captain of thehindenburg
was Ernst August Lehmann.

http://www.pilotundluftschiff.de/zzPL1612.jpg

Ernst Lehmann was born
12 may, MADELEINE's birthday.

I have had it!!! Everything is 12 may!!

But the hindenburg didn't make it to King George.
On 6 may the Zeppelin went in flames in a tragic
event that was mosty remembered by the
live report of Herbert Morison.

So now keep in the back of your mind that this
is a message to the FINANCIAL MARKETS today.
We are now in the END times. The masterplan of SATAN
is now. WW2 was just a picknick.

So here's the text of the first few lines of that famous live report.

"It's burst into flames and
it's FALLING, it's CRASHING! Watch it!
Watch it! Get out of the way!
Get out of the way!
Charlie, get this. Charlie, it's fire
and it's CRASHING. it's CRASHING
terrible!

Charlie is a bit of a CODE word. checkpoint Charlie.
Victor Charlie (vietcong) Charlie compagnie.

So that are all finacial terms. falling, Crashing.

But let's continue a bit with his live report.

This is the WORST of
the WORST of the catastrophies
in the WORLD.

Worst,Worst, World. WWW or 666.
W is the 23rd letter. W is DUBYA.
Three W's because we will have WW III.

And here are his most famous words.

"OH THE HUMANITY".

Huh? This is a tragic accident and there are people
dying but not all the HUMANITY.
Reporters need to give objective reports
of what's happening otherwise they are not fit
for the job.

But ít was all staged.
the reason why he said this is
the following

The HUMANITY in general was indeed very much
involved. After hindenburg died, HITLER came into
power and that meant TRAGEDY for the whole world.

How many dead?

36 dead. The roulette
number. Add it all up: 666

But that live report from Herbert Morrison
had made a huge impression in the world.

http://www.hour25online.com/pix/complete-war-of-the-worlds_05a.jpg

The famous WAR of THE WORLDS show by ORSON WELLES
was inspired by Herbert Morrison's live report.

Can understand that. Was pretty emotional.
That radio show performed on

HALLOWEEN

Another occult signature.
Ah, and the famous ORSON WELLES presented it.
So ORSON WELLES and the HINDENBURG.

http://www.madisonavenuejournal.com/images/war3.jpg

ORSON WELLES was born
6 MAY, the date of the
HINDENBURG TRAGEDY

So another little coincidence.
Now if people still think these are
coincidences and nothing more than that
they should go back to school and do some maths.

We have seen all the 12 may connections.
And I think that MADELEINE McCANN is a HINDENBURG
OMEN that announces the DEATH of a HINDENBURG (who was a
bit senile) and the coming of a HITLER.

But this new HITLER has even bigger plans.
He is the BEAST that all the OCCULTISTS are waiting for.

But for all those SCEPTICS that cannot do the MATH and cannot
distinguish between COINCIDENCE and PLANNED HORROR.
Here's the birthday of the only son of Paul von Hindenburg.

OSCAR von HINDENBURG
was born 12 may,
MADELEINE's birthday.

I keep repeating that birthday because certain folks here
have VERY SHORT TERM memories.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/05/10/nmaddy4.jpg

This is the little
girl I am talking about.

[seaweed]

Talking of 'Oh, the humanity'.

UK Digital TV Channel, E4, shows constant re-runs of the sitcom 'Friends'. In one of Yesterday's episodes, Ross was inexpertly flirting with a pizza delivery girl, at which Chandler commented 'Oh, the humanity.'

Not much of a connection, but, there is also an episode where, as a joke, Chandler posts on a website that Ross is dead, having been killed by a crashing blimp, or airship/zeppelin...

[tintin]

Well groovy gang, I know what you two are like, and I know that you'll blow it here with no interferance from me, becuase all it will take is a few people to question the veracity of the stream of co-incidence stuff you do and the psychosis fear and paranoia will come through... heck, even 2Tuff had enough of you!

But you should be careful Cruise: your recent actions are legally actionable after all

Ok folks. Mr. John white is threathening me with legal action.
Because of what?
Because I have called him a traitor.

Yes, did that, had a few beers, repeated it a few times.
he was one of the illusion bunch that shut down the
old forum.

A guy called IROBOY was after me all the time at the old forum.
in fact, the only thing that IROBOY did was harrassing people.

So those guys that are deliberately trying to
interfere on every forum.
Of course i am pissed.
A moderator on that forum asked me if I would join them.
The same day they were joking behind my back.

So what is JOHN WHITE threathening me with?

With legal action.
From whom?
From the same system JOHN WHITE is supposed to
be EXPOSING.

So JOHN WHITE, MASONIC BOOTLICKER, continue
with all your marvellous posts and MAY YOU THREATEN
AS MUCH POSTERS IF YOU CAN.

[tintin]

Talking of 'Oh, the humanity'.

UK Digital TV Channel, E4, shows constant re-runs of the sitcom 'Friends'. In one of Yesterday's episodes, Ross was inexpertly flirting with a pizza delivery girl, at which Chandler commented 'Oh, the humanity.'

Not much of a connection, but, there is also an episode where, as a joke, Chandler posts on a website that Ross is dead, having been killed by a crashing blimp, or airship/zeppelin...

Yeah, those very SUBTLE , NOT SO SUBTLE, messages.
Once you connect the dots they are eveywhere....

[fremmenwarrior]

Tintin, excellent posts - you obviously have an incredible eye for detail, a heightened sense of discernment, and the ability to easily recognise subliminal messages contained in the elite's controlled media - messages that most of the sleeping 'sheeple' just cannot (or don't want) to see.

As vera susa states, this ability improves with practice and once your eyes are opened to it, you cannot turn it off and it's EVERYWHERE.

Tintin, making those people who cannot see so clearly more aware of these coded messages, the subliminal desensitizing and mind-numbing brainwashing that constitutes 99% of what comes out of their television sets today is to be highly commended - Thank you - and please don't ever stop posting this sort of information.

[john white]

Ok folks. Mr. John white is threathening me with legal action.
Because of what?
Because I have called him a traitor.

Yes, did that, had a few beers, repeated it a few times.
he was one of the illusion bunch that shut down the
old forum.

A guy called IROBOY was after me all the time at the old forum.
in fact, the only thing that IROBOY did was harrassing people.

So those guys that are deliberately trying to
interfere on every forum.
Of course i am pissed.
A moderator on that forum asked me if I would join them.
The same day they were joking behind my back.

So what is JOHN WHITE threathening me with?

With legal action.
From whom?
From the same system JOHN WHITE is supposed to
be EXPOSING.

So JOHN WHITE, MASONIC BOOTLICKER, continue
with all your marvellous posts and MAY YOU THREATEN
AS MUCH POSTERS IF YOU CAN.

What's that? Guilty conscience making you over-react?

Revealing your imbalance and paranoia perhaps?

And why does this forum not have a popcorn emoticon?

You can calm yourself anyway, i'm not "after" you Cruise (I never was): but don't interfere in my business and then cry if you create consequences further down the line

Regretably mate, its you who doesn't know who they real enemy is

(Hint: It's yourself!)

[fremmenwarrior]

In addition, after reading what seaweed said about Channel 4's re-runs of Friends - many episodes of Friends show shots of the twin towers of the World Trade Centre.

It's noticable that even now, after all this time, the UK terrestrial tv channels are showing as many re-runs of programs that have these shots of the WTC in them?? - perhaps as a constant reminder... to gloat about what 'they' did; to keep stoking the fear of 'so-called' terrorism in people's hearts and minds - and/or perhaps to wickedly mock the dead and their poor relatives...

[seaweed]

In addition, after reading what seaweed said about Channel 4's re-runs of Friends - many episodes of Friends show shots of the twin towers of the World Trade Centre.

It's noticable that even now, after all this time, the UK terrestrial tv channels are showing as many re-runs of programs that have these shots of the WTC in them?? - perhaps as a constant reminder... to gloat about what 'they' did; to keep stoking the fear of so-called terrorsim in people's hearts and minds - and/or perhaps to wickedly mock the dead and their poor relatives...

And today's Friends episodes were set in the Casino in Las Vegas. Casinos again. Over to you Tintin...

[tintin]

What's that? Guilty conscience making you over-react?

Revealing your imbalance and paranoia perhaps?

And why does this forum not have a popcorn emoticon?

You can calm yourself anyway, i'm not "after" you Cruise (I never was): but don't interfere in my business and then cry if you create consequences further down the line

Regretably mate, its you who doesn't know who they real enemy is

(Hint: It's yourself!)

Look masonic freak.
As I 've told you before.
first of all. Tintin is not cruise.
Cruise is a bit of a soft guy. TinTin is a bit different.
And one thing. Mr. TINTIN, doesn't like THREATS.

Yes, mr John White, please THREATEN me.
Like you did, and please ask all those IRO BOYS as well.

[john white]

Tintin is not cruise.
Cruise is a bit of a soft guy. TinTin is a bit different.
And one thing. Mr. TINTIN, doesn't like THREATS.


Bi-polar huh? Well its not a suprise

Interesting insight into the boy repeater

[tintin]

Bi-polar huh? Well its not a suprise

Interesting insight into the boy repeater


[B]bUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN
WHY YOU threathened me
john White?

[john white]

Whats threathened? don't recognise the word mate

[tintin]

Masonic creatures......

[john white]

threathened means masonic creatures?

Well thats a new one on me

[tintin]

threathened means masonic creatures?

Well thats a new one on me


Fuck off john white.

[john white]

What, you want me to be reasonable and behave reasonably?

Do you actually believe that my posting at the moment represents unreasonable???

Trust me on this: your not right

Reasonable is what I want from you Cruise: I want you to behave reasonably

I don't mind you posting on my googlevideo that you think I'm a *whatever* and rating my video with one star

What I do mind is you pretending to be people I know and doing it continously

So what I want from you is for YOU to be reasonable

I certainly don't mind you and True Lilly being part of this forum in any way shape or form, although I have some expectations of how that is going to go: I'm always willing to be positively suprised

And I'm just pointing out that defaming my actual legal name, especially by impersonating me, whilst doing so on a site where you can be traced back to your actual name and your actual address, is not a sensible or balanced way to behave

Now, you can take that as a "threat" if you like: but that's just displaying that you are neither very sensible or very balanced (probably why true-Lilly has been able to groom you)

What it is, is good advise from someone who believe it or not, cares about you as a human being even though you need to make that difficult

[tintin]

Look creep.
I will deal with you.

As a loving person.
Just love , no hate, get it?

[john white]

So often, wisdom cannot be given, but must be earned

You will do what you do: you have the choice to be wise

[tintin]

our lttle chipper.

[john white]

weird

[tintin]

weird

Can't you get rid of of that
horrible avatar?

No, because it's the REASON to Annoy people.

[john white]

You don't like Alex Grey?

It's Art mate, and therefore a mirror:

You see what you project into it

I find it a testament of Truth, and therefore inspiring

Mind you I remember when Intent called me a satanist just becuase I used an image of Doctor Who regenerating!

[tintin]

[QUOTE=john white;166571]You don't like Alex Grey?

It's Art mate, and therefore a mirror:

You see what you project into it

I find it a testament of Truth, and therefore inspiring

Mind you I remember when Intent called me a satanist
just becuase I used an image of Doctor Who regenerating![/QUOTE

We all know your'r a masonicic homosexual.
So don't play games with me.

John white, masonic HOMOSEXUEL.

[emerald]

Tintin, dont waste ur time and energy with such useless debates. U know urself better, the ones who have brain and eyes to see know what they have to do. Keep posting as u have been done til now and dont forget the saying: "Let the dogs bark, the caravane will pass anyway".;)

[tintin]

Tintin, dont waste ur time and energy with such useless debates. U know urself better, the ones who have brain and eyes to see know what they have to do. Keep posting as u have been done til now and dont forget the saying: "Let the dogs bark, the caravane will pass anyway".;)

Thanks emerald, am a bit drunk now....

[2013]

This thread is good reading , but seems to be heading for the rant room , i enjoy reading posts from both members here so why is it descending into this is it needed ,was going to type necessary but wasnt sure of the spelling :DMaybe the mods could open a forum arena for sparring sessions celebrity forum death match settle this like gentlemen .marquis of queensbury rules and thats not graffiti in an upperclass lavatory :D
Can you sense my neil the hippy mentality there oh no the forums having an argument . :)

[klinker]

Yeah just what is going on between these two?

[tintin]

Yeah just what is going on between these two?

They always are after me.
Rosicrusions, or whatever.

this John White was one of the bunch that took
down
the old forum.

And you can see that the only thing he want's to
do now is just going after me. They do it all the time,
wherever I am,

I never go after them, they always are after me....

[majicdragon]

They always are after me.
Rosicrusions, or whatever.

this John White was one of the bunch that took
down
the old forum.

And you can see that the only thing he want's to
do now is just going after me. They do it all the time,
wherever I am,

I never go after them, they always are after me....

Funniest thing... I just realized about JohnWhite lol.. I've never read a post from him save like three years ago and a few posts cause I like the title. Then I click and see that revolting self righteous little avatar and I'm like, oh yeah, long winded guy... (well it might not be long to him. It might be as quick as 'cut/... paste') but you know what I mean.

There you go tintin... John white will probably bother you a little less now.:D

And I need more people following me around anyhow.

John's thoughts: "I'm not going to follow you around, I'm above that"

Reality: John abandons tintin for a while to find a way to Get Revenge on the Mystical Maji C. Dragon

[vera susa]

Talking of 'Oh, the humanity'.

UK Digital TV Channel, E4, shows constant re-runs of the sitcom 'Friends'. In one of Yesterday's episodes, Ross was inexpertly flirting with a pizza delivery girl, at which Chandler commented 'Oh, the humanity.'

Not much of a connection, but, there is also an episode where, as a joke, Chandler posts on a website that Ross is dead, having been killed by a crashing blimp, or airship/zeppelin...

seaweed the connection is MUCH BIGGER than we're led to believe, and one of the reasons that the TEAMS of PRO-NWO AGENTS on Conspiracy sites, are constantly TELLING folk to NOT watch TV, read Newspapers or 'indulge' in any MSM..."They" NEED to keep those who are waking up to just how fishy all
these 'coincidences' are, away from all VISIBLE MANIPULATION of the GENERAL Public. Lest they they start SHOWING those who flatly refuse to accept there is a Global Conspiracy and so wouldn't 'waste their time' on conspiracy research, just how these harmful mindSETS are being implanted.

Now keep in mind that if every filmed entertainment was played without repeating one, one would need a few lifetimes of doing nothing else, to see
it all, yet we'll be flooded with repeats of certain programmes, that SURPRISE SURPRISE, always contain TIMELY, FITTING MESSAGES....no matter how BAD and UNPOPULAR the programmes are.

Like ABC late night, old classic movies. Some we get to see again and again, while others just pop up then go away, yet they will always contain KEY themes, dialogs, images etc. that 'foretell' of REAL World 'EVENTS'.

Just the other night, we had the original of that Tom Hanks movie, The Terminal (in itself, an 'interesting' choice of title), where someone finds themselves NATIONLESS

Oh, and just look who STARED in it. That KEY player in early MASS PANIC
experimentation:

http://www.nostalgia.com/large/16523.JPG
(a MUCH better story by the way), but what also stood out to me
was that not long before, we also had 'The Terminal' play on commercial,
free to air TV....just BEFORE our IMMIGRATION Minister announced that
we'd STOP accepting AFRICAN Refugees!!!

And BLIMPS, ZEPPELINS, AIRSHIPS, FLYING BOATS etc. well they are all of a sudden all over TV...including a curious documentary about ZEPPELIN that without ever stating it SHOWED just how much WARING, DEATH, and FINANCIAL COLLAPSE was actually CAUSED BY the British in an effort to KILL that as a PUBLIC Industry.

It was the poverty CAUSED by the BRITISH MURDER of Germany's MASSIVE EMPLOYING ZEPPELIN industry, that CAUSED the discontent that brought Hitler to power!

But I'm also still waiting for those "MIGHTY DUCKS" to appear and play the role of 'alien' ships. The culmination of decades of work by all those ONCE private and publicly employed boffins and engineers of those otherwise SENSELESSLY KILLED, Air, Sea and Land Transports.

Again I feel it's time to remind folk to watch CHILDREN of MEN and try to deny that most of what's portrayed isn't already being suffered in those once rich and proud Cities of the NORTHERN Hemisphere, like LONDON, were 'herds' of refugees still stream in without any real hinderence, then have an HONEST look at why Australia is being kept so UNDER populated.

[john white]

Funniest thing... I just realized about JohnWhite lol.. I've never read a post from him save like three years ago and a few posts cause I like the title. Then I click and see that revolting self righteous little avatar and I'm like, oh yeah, long winded guy... (well it might not be long to him. It might be as quick as 'cut/... paste') but you know what I mean.

There you go tintin... John white will probably bother you a little less now.:D

And I need more people following me around anyhow.

John's thoughts: "I'm not going to follow you around, I'm above that"

Reality: John abandons tintin for a while to find a way to Get Revenge on the Mystical Maji C. Dragon

Sorry mate, but if you see this guy calling me a "masonic homosexual" as setting me straight after I pull him up about abusing googlevideo, then I don't reckon much to your clarity of judgement: for one thing you can't see that his world is coming from the darkness of his own imagination

I'm certainly not interested in discussing these "streams of co-incidence stuff" thats currently getting posted on this thread in the pretense its news, and I'm also not desperately interested in spending time talking to a guy with issues, but what you clearly don't understand is I always post exactly where I want to

Anyway, carry on hanging out, its your attention to place

[vera susa]

What, you want me to be reasonable and behave reasonably?

Do you actually believe that my posting at the moment represents unreasonable???

Trust me on this: your not right

Reasonable is what I want from you Cruise: I want you to behave reasonably

I don't mind you posting on my googlevideo that you think I'm a *whatever* and rating my video with one star

What I do mind is you pretending to be people I know and doing it continously

So what I want from you is for YOU to be reasonable

I certainly don't mind you and True Lilly being part of this forum (gee, that's big of "you" "John White"!) in any way shape or form, although I have some expectations of how that is going to go: I'm always willing to be positively suprised

And I'm just pointing out that defaming my actual legal name, especially by impersonating me, whilst doing so on a site where you can be traced back to your actual name and your actual address, is not a sensible or balanced way to behave

Now, you can take that as a "threat" if you like: but that's just displaying that you are neither very sensible or very balanced (probably why true-Lilly has been able to groom you)

What it is, is good advise from someone who believe it or not, cares about you as a human being even though you need to make that difficult

THIS IS NOT a continuation of "John White's" VERY DELIBERATE, VERY OFF TOPIC, PERSONAL ATTACKS 'designed' (badly I might add; probably by some 'work experience' Elite School future spy, he he), to SILENCE the message by
attempting to discredit the messengers.

Rather, I'd like to use his post as an example of the topic of this thread.

THE NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS.

For the very many people who have barred themselves from MSM,
NET Forum 'Events' and News, are the only news they indulge in and so,
it to is MANIPULATED by AGENTS of the coming 'Global Tsar'.

So what's BEHIND the news of "John White's" latest 'war' against a couple of INDIVIDUAL posters?

Well, only a couple of years worth of revealed secrets that the "John White's" of 'FORUMLAND' simply could NOT argue away on 'The Forum', and now again are DESPERATE to bury under steaming piles cow manure.

See, back then, as is happening here with tintin, 'Cruise' was a popular and respected poster, so by NOT joining in the mindless attacks against this
little old mother, but rather showing more corroborating evidence of those
connections from his own local perspective and mind for 'numbers', he became a target for those on NET Forums who's JOB it is to BURY REAL NEWS intended only for the "RIGHT" members of World Dominating Society,
under piles of airy-fairy, go nowhere (but to hell), IMAGININGS.

See, I am true-lilly (but wasn't allowed to use it here, being told it was already used by someone else. true-lilly, vera susa, both variants on my actual name), and back at the old, 'The Forum', 'Cruise' and I started to compare the observations of our views from opposite sides of the world, social and economic backgrounds.
The more we did so, the more we showed the distracters and straight out liars for what they were, until "They" had no choice but to close The Forum
without any real warning for folk to save any of useful and FACTUAL information posted there by the many of us that the "Pack of Agent Dogs",
constantly tore at, rather than getting on with revealing more of the yet to be covered 'TRICKS of MASS BRAINWASHING'/"SOCIAL ENGINEERING".

Then at The Unhived Mind, 'Cruise' had enough of wondering why I seemed to be the only one pointing to the secret truths and public lies about OZ (Australia) and jumped on a plane to come and SEE FOR HIMSELF. Having already a great deal of local understanding of the 'Secret Shared History'
between OZ and Holland, and being world traveled enough to know the dire
straits of lands "They" kept insisting were all but paradise compared to OZ.

And well, didn't that just shoot down all the attacks against me that "They" invented and kept posting for want of counter arguments to what I was presenting.

Like I was supposed to be some bitter, fat, lonely, judgmental, fearful, brainwashed, 'Church indoctrinated' person who didn't know anything of the real world, just because I would not deny that I trust The Creator, and so that was supposed to cause 'truth seekers' to ignore all the real world news I was posting about.

Well, welcoming a NET STRANGER into my family home, giving over my bedroom (with all my 'stuff' still in it), for his private space, doing my first driving in years, along the Great Ocean Road at night, and visiting RIVAL Biker Pubs to enjoy beers and Table holding Pool games,that had us warmly welcomed back by those 'Ground Dwelling Elite' of common, ATHEIST society, made a total mockery of the LIES "They" constantly posted about my character, based purely on my admission of faith.

So what is "John White" doing now?

ATTACKING the character of 'Cruise', who yes, does enjoy a drink, but for
an occasion or at the end of the day, and then is a perfectly lucid, sound thinking, OBSERVANT person the next morning.

And as tintin has admitted himself, he can post 'drunk and angry' on occasion
(and far from the only one, yet "They" are willing 'forgiven'), but he also does apologize and asks us to ignore those posts.

It still doesn't take away from all the astute observations he shares with us,
right across everything from sport, history, entertainments and finance etc.

What has "John White" added to this massive subject that is far too big for
a few individuals to cover?

Sweet FA; too busy promoting his personal 'guru status' around the WEB that NETS folk in deceptions!

Now tintin may or may not be Cruise (I'm a Ludite but know you can't "prove"
anyone to be who they claim on the NET, or even an actual real person), but it is the ACTUAL PERSON who TRAVELED ACROSS THE WORLD and stayed with me (true-lilly) and my family, who "John White" is attacking, and FUNNIER STILL, accusing ME of "GROOMING"!!!

How the hell does a carless pov living in Government housing for 'the sins' of exposing corrupt Police and Government Officials, influence someone who can
up and spend 3 weeks on the other side of the world?
"SEX" you say..nah, I've had all my children to the man I married and have no desire to risk half-siblings, so am happily celibate in my friendly separation...yeah, he also met and got on great with my estranged husband,
who also lent us his car for the few days he was interstate and drove us to pick up and drop off the hire car, and to the airport to see him off safely.

So what is BEHIND "John White's" ATTACKS against two individual, REAL people, and his NEED to do it on threads REVEALING THE BIG PICTURE PLAN?

The FACT that "he"/"They" STILL HAVE NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS to the
"BIG PICTURE PLANS" of the world ruling 'elite', that us mere 'commoners'
are to be kept HOODWINKED from SEEING, and that just happen to be presented by people who have NO INVESTMENT in the 'conspiracy' INDUSTRY,
but just HATE BEING LIED TO.

And at least in my case, the ONLY worldly investment I have, is the WELL WATERED, FERTILE property we bought in the eighties for our children
to live on when good food and water becomes even more restrictively priced.

We could be a hundred typing monkey's, 'we' DON'T MATTER when the
TRUTH we present, STANDS ON IT'S OWN....and if it doesn't, ARGUE YOUR
CASE AGAINST the SUBJECT "John White".

Oh, and apologies for this log winded post, but it further goes to show the value of tintin's posts, in that I can read a News story and see too many coded messages to know where to start, that he can just cut the fat off and make easily digestible.

Plus, 'Cruise' and I or tintin and I are not some team working in cahoots,
and in fact have had our own strong disagreements, but somehow we both
keep stumbling across the same themes of coded languages and messages
at the same time.

And note also that that is what we do, we look at REAL EVENTS in the REAL WORLD, past and present, posting the actual articles and further links for others to explore for themselves rather than wanting them to simply take our word on anything.

We don't just post copies of PRODUCTS INVENTED, and OCCULT mindSETS SOLD by the oogudy-boogudy 'conspiracy' INDUSTRY, then try to TELL folk that is "reality".

[vera susa]

Sorry mate, but if you see this guy calling me a "masonic homosexual" as setting me straight after I pull him up about abusing googlevideo, then I don't reckon much to your clarity of judgement: for one thing you can't see that his world is coming from the darkness of his own imagination

I'm certainly not interested in discussing these "streams of co-incidence stuff" thats currently getting posted on this thread in the pretense its news, and I'm also not desperately interested in spending time talking to a guy with issues, but what you clearly don't understand is I always post exactly where I want to

Anyway, carry on hanging out, its your attention to place

Translated:
YES I AM ATTEMPTING TO DERAIL THIS THREAD THAT SHOWS HOW OCCULT mindSETS ARE DRIP FED TO US THROUGH GENERATIONS OF COORDINATED AND CAREFULLY TIMED, 'news' and 'Light Entertainments', by ATTACKING
the CHARACTER of INDIVIDUAL Posters.

AND, EVERYONE WHO ADDS TO OR GIVES CREDIT TO THE SUBJECTS COVERED AND/OR IT'S POSTERS, WILL BE LABELED TO RECEIVE THE SAME "TREATMENT" BY "ME" AND "THE TEAM".

Just carry on KNOWINGLY offending everyone with YOUR CHOICE of "DARK art' avatar, "John White", and telling us how "enlightened" "YOU" are for NOT CARING what it reminds survivors of wars, car crashes and CHILD SACRIFICING and MUTILATING SATANIC CIRCLES.


Now back to how the 'news' plays with our perceptions of what is and isn't real, or important, from the headline page of an Australian 'news' site,
http://www.news.com.au/0,,vic,00.html
the THIRD lead story:

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713627,00.jpg
Gerry McCann / Reuters
Security escort for McCann

HEART surgeon Gerry McCann,
who has been on unpaid leave
since his daughter Madeleine
went missing in May,
will return to work tomorrow -
with a security guard.
full story:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22627076-2,00.html

o In pictures: The disappearance of Madeleine McCann

o Multimedia: Madeleine McCann interactive special



But the FIFTH, tiny little headline down,
that effects all Aussie Parents and Kids,
just doesn't seem 'that important' does it:

Dean Shillingsworth: 'Tug-of-love' for suitcase boy



'Tug-of-love' for suitcase boy

By John Stapleton and Dan Box

October 22, 2007 12:20am
Article from: The Australian
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22624705-2,00.html

* DOCS was warned of potential risk
* Boy allegedly shaken to death
* Mother was on parole

DEAN Shillingsworth, the two-year-old boy whose body was found in a suitcase in a Sydney pond, was at the centre of a tug-of-love between
his mother and grandparents, and child welfare authorities had been warned he was at risk.

The child's paternal grandparents said yesterday he had been living with them in Tamworth, in northeastern NSW, until June, when he failed to return after a stay with his mother, who is on parole.

They said they went with NSW police to the mother's house on Thursday - the day after an unidentified body had been found nearby - and were told the child was with the Department of Community Services.

On Saturday night, four days after his body was pulled from a pond in Ambarvale, in southwest Sydney, Dean's mother, Rachel Pfitzner, 26,
was charged with his murder.

The Seven Network reported last night that police would allege the child
was shaken to death up to 10 days before his body was found.

Ms Pfitzner was refused bail yesterday but did not enter the courtroom
at the hearing.

She was remanded in custody and will return to court in December.

Relatives of the boy, who gave The Australian written permission to publish his identity, gathered at Mandurama Reserve to pay their respects to the child, who they described as "happy-go-lucky, like any other little tyke".

"He was a good little boy, happy, happy with his nan and pop in Tamworth," one close family member said.

The child's grandfather, Edmund Capan, cried as he said:
"It shouldn't have happened."

NSW Minister for Community Services Kevin Greene confirmed yesterday
that the family was known to his department, although his office refused to confirm if any action was taken after a warning was received by its Helpline.

"It must be emphasised that families known to the department often have complex relationships such as different surnames or multiple parents," Mr Greene said.

He has ordered an internal review of all information the department has on Dean's family, which will run in parallel with an investigation by the NSW Ombudsman's office of the handling of the case.

A spokeswoman for Mr Greene said Helpline had only 190 caseworkers
to deal with the 241,003 calls, relating to 109,500 children, in 2005-06.

The most recent available figures, from 2005, show the NSW Ombudsman reviewed the deaths of 109 children after they or their siblings had been
the subject of a report to DOCS in the previous three years.

A highly critical Ombudsman's report from last November said:
"We continue to be concerned that some cases are closed without assessment, despite reports indicating the possibility that children were
at risk. In some cases, we found that closure without assessment occurred where DOCS records indicated a significant child protection history."

Neighbours of Ms Pfitzner said they believed she had an unhappy relationship with the boy's father, from whom she had separated.

One neighbour, who gave her name as Lyndal, said Dean "always looked sad, but we just thought he was missing (his grandparents)".

After her arrest on Saturday, police accompanied Ms Pfitzner to the pond, where angry residents yelled and tried to surround the car she was in.

Police returned yesterday to continue a search of Ms Pfitzner's home in Rosemeadow, a little over a kilometre from where Dean's body was found, while her partner was interviewed by police but released without charge.

Documents tendered in the court showed Ms Pfitzner was on parole.

Family friend Nicole Mills said Dean was a solitary, withdrawn child.

"He was a real little cherub, he was just sweet, a very quiet little boy," she said.

Additional reporting: Nicola Berkovic


And YES"John White", it IS the sort of 'art' that YOU and YOUR ILK
INSIST ON INFLICTING ON THE WORLD, that DEVALUES HUMANE BEINGS
to the point where this sort of story is FAR TOO COMMON!

[nowhere]

This is the shit this forum was intended for!

Anyway, I don't know if the following matters, but . . . :

Last year I met an elder woman, maybe 55 years of age,
who was English and was famous in her youth.
Apparently she was an actress and did a popular show
and a few movies. I didn't really believe her about being famous .
But a week later, a group of older tourists, about her age,
and coincidentally from England, had recognized her and asked for her autograph.After this I became more interested in her and we began to talk more frequently. One night we began to talk about paranormal topics.
I asked her if she believed in Aliens and she hesitated.
After trying to get it out of her, she finally told me the following:

One night in the 70's she and 2 friends had dinner by the sea and
saw 2 lights coming out of the water, as if they were rising.
In an instant two classic UFOs silently rose out of the water and in seconds flew in opposite directions and disappeared.

She had met many famous celebrities back in her day.
Including Frank Sinatra, whom she said was very nice,
and Marlin Brando,whom she met at a party doing piles of coke
(This is when he was young and famous).

She also told me about a famous writer, I think it was Orson Wells ,
that told her there was a code writers used to communicate with another in their books/work.

She said how eerie it was that you could be reading a book for enjoyment
but deciphered in it is a message to another writer!

Anyway, I thought this was quite interesting.
She is now a writer or producer (don't remember)
for some HBO show.

[vera susa]

And get this for the top story on the same sites, "Breaking News' page;

Wild monkey kills senior official

A WILD monkey that attacked the deputy mayor of New Delhi
has been blamed for his death.


Wild monkey kills senior official

By staff writers

October 22, 2007 02:27pm
Article from: NEWS.com.au
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22627395-23109,00.html

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713741,00.jpg
Rhesus monkey ...
more than meets the eye / Mark Williams

A WILD monkey that attacked the deputy mayor of New Delhi
has been blamed for his death.

The rhesus monkey reportedly attacked S S Bajwa
on the balcony of his home. He fell, hit his head on a flowerpot
and later died of head injuries after trying to fend it off.

Mr Bajwa was alone at the time of the incident.
He is survived by his wife and son.

Delhi BJP President Harsh Vardhan said
foreign experts could be called in
to "control the monkey menace"
in the capital, Sify.com reported.

"Though we are not setting up any special committee on the issue,
we have suggested various brainstorming ideas to revive the efforts
to control monkeys and we also take experts' help in striking balance
between human beings and animals in the urban area," he said.

Earlier this year, the Delhi High court had asked the civic authorities
to move all monkeys to the Asola Wildlife Sanctuary within three months.
The MCD, which missed the deadline, sought for an extension by a year, which is yet to be granted.


So again we have a 'headline' that is little covered in the bulk of the body of the story.

No respectful image or record of achievements of THE MAN,
a 'Senior Official' no less,
but a story about the problem of WILD ANIMALS, YET AGAIN,
HAVING MORE RIGHTS THAN HUMAN BEINGS,
and a CUTE PET MONKEY in a Bib, with the words,
"MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE"!

[vera susa]

This is the shit this forum was intended for!

Anyway, I don't know if the following matters, but . . . :

Last year I met an elder woman, maybe 55 years of age,
who was English and was famous in her youth.
Apparently she was an actress and did a popular show
and a few movies. I didn't really believe her about being famous .
But a week later, a group of older tourists, about her age,
and coincidentally from England, had recognized her and asked for her autograph.After this I became more interested in her and we began to talk more frequently. One night we began to talk about paranormal topics.
I asked her if she believed in Aliens and she hesitated.
After trying to get it out of her, she finally told me the following:

One night in the 70's she and 2 friends had dinner by the sea and
saw 2 lights coming out of the water, as if they were rising.
In an instant two classic UFOs silently rose out of the water and in seconds flew in opposite directions and disappeared.

She had met many famous celebrities back in her day.
Including Frank Sinatra, whom she said was very nice,
and Marlin Brando,whom she met at a party doing piles of coke
(This is when he was young and famous).

She also told me about a famous writer, I think it was Orson Wells ,
that told her there was a code writers used to communicate with another in their books/work.

She said how eerie it was that you could be reading a book for enjoyment
but deciphered in it is a message to another writer!

Anyway, I thought this was quite interesting.
She is now a writer or producer (don't remember)
for some HBO show.

She also told me about a famous writer,
I think it was Orson Wells ,
that told her there was a code
writers used to communicate
with another in their books/work.

Thank you nowhere, this is the point we've been trying to make,
and it's 'odd' how in 'conspiracy land' full of posts about
"SECRETS OUT IN THE OPEN", as soon as ANY OF US DARE
to post EXAMPLES of HOW IT'S DONE, the GATEKEEPERS all
come running to TELL YOU TO IGNORE IT and just read some
more 'Conspiracy Guru's' PRODUCTS.

But the value of a thread like this, is working in current, real time,
to record and show the flow of events as heralded by such CODED COMMUNICATIONS.

As well as to train your ear and eye to recognize such CODES in old classic literature, movies etc., my favourite being Holy Scripture which in CODE Terry Pratchett also tells us is "ENTIRELY CONTEXTUAL", a point the deceivers love to LIE about with such tricks as constantly going on about 'idiots who take the bible literally' which "They" KNOW is VERY DIFFERENT to STUDYING the
FULL, DEEP, CONTEXTUALLY VARIABLE yet CONSTANTLY TRUE LITERATURE
of Holy Scripture.

But you will find such CODES EVERYWHERE, as "They" have their little STAZIESQUE spies in every area of human interest, sucking or bullying their way into the position of Editors of things like the local fishing, animal fancy, knitting and 'Social' Clubs 'News'letters, and getting away with destroying fellow members lives by putting it down to BS like 'personality clashes' which yes, do happen, but not liking someone in your bowls club, doesn't have the
destruction of their business benefiting another fellow Lodge members business, by shear luck or accident!

So what we share here isn't just pointing at 'Big Wigs' who's crimes us little guys have no way of righting, but shows how us little guys can KEEP ALERT
to the plots and schemes being communicated against real people we know and love and even prevent some suicides that such cruel and persistent personal attacks can lead to when no one believes the victims about their very real victimization.

[vera susa]

Anyway, now look at this image, from the same "breaking News' page;

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5713441,00.jpg

Now is it just me, or do others also 'see' an image of 'Armageddon',
rather that one of CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES?

Devastation ...
a firefighter foams the home of Hollywood producer
Jeffrey Katzenberg in Malibu,
where a wildfire driven by powerful winds
has forced the evacuation of hundreds of homes / AP
Read story now



Stars not spared
as fires rage

By Tangi Quemener in Los Angeles

October 22, 2007 11:25am
Article from: Agence France-Presse
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22626608-1702,00.html

WILDFIRES have charred parts of the exclusive seaside town of Malibu
and forced evacuations of million-dollar homes of many top Hollywood stars, while a man has been killed fighting another southern California blaze.
(well at least the DEATH of "a man" who was FIGHTING THE FIRES
didn't have to wait too long too long to get some mention...FFS!)

Wind gusts of up to 100km/h fed the flames which devoured at least one church and several houses, forcing entire neighbourhoods to evacuate in
Malibu.

One person was killed and four firefighters were seriously injured while trying to protect a home from a wildfire in Potrero, near the Mexican border, 50km east of San Diego, the fire department said.

More than 500 firefighters (how many more? 47, 252...doesn't matter, it's the 500 "They" had to get in print, and you will notice that a great deal these days, the use of wild 'guesstimates' that always seem to end up "FITTING" the Occult 'message') were battling to contain the blazes, ]as fast-moving flames devoured hundreds of hectares of tree-lined hillsides and filled the area with thick smoke.

Thousands of students at Pepperdine University were evacuated from their dormitories and moved into the cafeteria in the central section of the campus, which is believed to be well-protected from threatening fires.

Nearby, the Malibu Presbyterian Church caught fire and burned to the ground - along with several private homes.

The blaze destroyed much of the Malibu Castle, also known as Hodge Castle, a hilltop landmark built in 1978 and put up for sale in March for $US17 million ($19m).

The famous Malibu Pier that appeared in the 1990s television series Baywatch was being sprayed by country patrol boats to protect it from the blowing embers.
(yep "a man" KILLED and private, ordinary folks homes destroyed, but the scene of that other great BRAINWASHING TV show, BAYWATCH = "WATCH", needs to
be protected..FFS!)

Southern California has been on red alert over the weekend due to
the high winds, temperatures of near 30C and persistent dry conditions.

Malibu, about 30km west of Los Angeles, is home to celebrities including Sting, Jennifer Aniston, Mel Gibson, Robert Redford, Barbra Streisand, Cher, Richard Gere, Martin Sheen and Whoopi Goldberg and Dreamworks studios co-founders David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Homes of director James Cameron and Australian singer Olivia Newton-John were among those evacuated, celebrity site TMZ.com reported.

"The residents understand the danger,'' fire inspector Ron Haralson told Channel 2 television.

"They understand the importance of getting a head start or a jump on fires such as this that move very quickly and are erratic, so the residents there have been co-operating.''
(yeah, pissing off to leave ordinary folk to save their mansions!...well seems the 'signs' are that even 'They' won't keep getting such care, now that the ultimate purpose of the propaganda they push, is drawing closer)

[vera susa]

Well those fires are still the featured story on that OZZIE 'Breaking News' page,
but just look at how DESPERATE 'They" are to repeat 'certain' NUMBERS,
and give 'certain' warnings;


Fires prompt

state of emergency

From correspondents in Los Angeles

October 22, 2007 02:57pm
Article from: Agence France-Presse


CALIFORNIA Governor
Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared
a state of emergency
in seven counties of the state,
where wild fires have killed at least one person
and forced evacuations.

"Governor Schwarzenegger tonight proclaimed a state of emergency
in the counties of
Los Angeles,
Orange,
Riverside,
San Bernardino,
San Diego,
Santa Barbara,
and
Ventura
due to
more than 11
major wildfires,'' his office said.

"The governor's emergency proclamation
allows the state
Office of Emergency Services
to deploy
emergency personnel, equipment and facilities
and provide local government assistance.''

Authorities ordered
36,000
(sure it wasn't 37,001, or 36, 278, or ...)
residents of the southern Californian town of Ramona to evacuate.

Police were contacting all households in the town,
50km northeast of San Diego,
ordering them to flee,
said Phillip Brust, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.

Firefighters were working into the night battling the blazes, which started early yesterday and burned all day, fanned by strong winds. One person died fighting a fire near San Diego and several others were injured elsewhere.

"Throughout the region,
more than 30,000
acres (12,000ha)
(BUT,
12 000 hectare = 29 652.6 acres,
LESS than 30,000!)
have already burned, and more areas are threatened.
The wildfires have caused the loss of human life and serious injuries,''
the governor's offfice said.

"They have burned a number of homes, businesses and other structures. Residents have been evacuated in dangerous areas.''
(now just watch for those 'NUMBERS'. You can pretty safely bet that
they will exclude a few 'unimportant' homes and 'structures',
to get the "right" 'NUMBERS' to print again.)

[vera susa]

And just in, something I've waited for....



FBI probes magician
David Copperfield

From correspondents in Kuala Lumpur

October 22, 2007 04:22pm
Article from: Agence France-Presse
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22627974-23109,00.html

DAVID Copperfield has cancelled performances after
the FBI launched an investigation
into the world-famous US magician and illusionist.

The organisers of Copperfield's two-day Kuala Lumpur stint
on October 30 and 31
said the decision to cancel was made after agents from
the Federal Bureau of Investigations
raided Copperfield's storage warehouse
in Los Angeles last week.

(so here we are on the 22nd,
getting this 'news'
that features "2" [TWINNING],
and an "ILLUSIONIST",
who's 'name' makes most think of,

http://bluepyramid.org/ia/dccd.jpg

http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/0590650.jpg

the above being from;
TEMPLEMAN LIBRARY
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/0590650.jpg&imgrefurl=http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/DickExh.htm&h=1026&w=705&sz=258&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=5Jpa4XD31osbBM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddavid%2Bcopperfield%2Bdickens%26svnum %3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DLar%26sa%3DN
but 'of course' it's all just 'innocent coincidence'...)

"He needs to help in the investigations.
Copperfield is not prevented from leaving the United States
but he needs time to get to the bottom of things,"
Arianna Teoh,
director of Arianna Event Management,
said in The Star newspaper.

FBI agents took away a computer hard drive,
digital camera memory chip
and seized
nearly $US2 million ($2.25 million)
in cash during the raid last Wednesday.

They also visited the MGM-Grand Hotel
and Casino on the Vegas Strip,
where Copperfield often performs.

The FBI has not revealed the purpose of the raid
and David Chesnoff, lawyer for the 51-year old magician,
issued only a brief statement.

"We understand there is an investigation, we are in touch with the investigators, and are respecting the confidentiality of the investigation,"
Mr Chesnoff said.

Ms Teoh said Copperfield's performance could still take place later.

"The people here and all his fans have been very supportive of him
and if he is cleared,
then it is possible that he will still continue with the show," she said.

[vera susa]

So who is the SEA KING?

The WATER MANAGER,
PRINCE WILLEM of ORANGE,
or does "BRITANIA" Still "RULE THE WAVES"
or is it still 'much of a muchness'?

How far are we from the REALLY BIG,
ROYAL FAMILY FEUD....
gotta wonder when you see these two
"Breaking Headlines,
in this order, then see all those
SAINTLY KINGS,
listed and "NUMBERED"!


Maintenance failing
in Sea King chopper
5:02pm (AEST)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22628146-29277,00.html

A MAINTENANCE failure
was behind an incident
in which one of the navy's
Sea King
helicopters
made a forced landing,
the defence department said.



Up to 17 hurt
in 14-car pile-up
4:53pm (AEST)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22628136-29277,00.html

THREE people had to be freed
from the wreckage of a 14-car pile-up
in Sydney's south today
which injured
up to 17 people.

A 55-year-old man was taken to
Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital with chest injuries.

Another person was taken to
Liverpool
Hospital in a serious condition.

A third person was taken to
St George
Hospital in a serious but stable condition.

No further details about their injuries were immediately available.

Four more people were taken to
St George
Hospital in a stable condition,
while the condition of three people taken to
Sutherland
Hospital was also described as stable.

Seven people were still
being assessed on the scene by ambulance officers.



So, 'only' HURT, no one killed,
and "UP TO" 17 could be
as little as 10, but hey,
the NUMBER 17
and
the PRINCE of ORANGE
just go together, don't they....

[vera susa]

And yet another,
DEADLY DOUBLE....on this 22nd


American sailors shot dead in barracks

From correspondents in Bahrain

October 22, 2007 05:47pm
Article from: Reuters
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22628526-23109,00.html

TWO US sailors
have been shot dead
in their barracks
in Bahrain,
the navy says.

Another sailor was critically injured in the shooting
at the US navy base
about 5am (midday AEST).

The navy gave no explanation for the deaths
and said the names of the sailors were being withheld.

[vera susa]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44183000/jpg/_44183375_singhowardap203.jpg
John Howard and Manmohan Singh

Growing bonds

Ties between
India and Australia
are on an upswing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7050315.stm

Gee, and this just AFTER
INDIA and AMERICA
had a "FALLING OUT"
over URANIUM,
that OZ sells to INDIA.

[tintin]

THIS IS NOT a continuation of "John White's" VERY DELIBERATE, VERY OFF TOPIC, PERSONAL ATTACKS 'designed' (badly I might add; probably by some 'work experience' Elite School future spy, he he), to SILENCE the message by
attempting to discredit the messengers.

Rather, I'd like to use his post as an example of the topic of this thread.

THE NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS.

For the very many people who have barred themselves from MSM,
NET Forum 'Events' and News, are the only news they indulge in and so,
it to is MANIPULATED by AGENTS of the coming 'Global Tsar'.

So what's BEHIND the news of "John White's" latest 'war' against a couple of INDIVIDUAL posters?

Well, only a couple of years worth of revealed secrets that the "John White's" of 'FORUMLAND' simply could NOT argue away on 'The Forum', and now again are DESPERATE to bury under steaming piles cow manure.

See, back then, as is happening here with tintin, 'Cruise' was a popular and respected poster, so by NOT joining in the mindless attacks against this
little old mother, but rather showing more corroborating evidence of those
connections from his own local perspective and mind for 'numbers', he became a target for those on NET Forums who's JOB it is to BURY REAL NEWS intended only for the "RIGHT" members of World Dominating Society,
under piles of airy-fairy, go nowhere (but to hell), IMAGININGS.

See, I am true-lilly (but wasn't allowed to use it here, being told it was already used by someone else. true-lilly, vera susa, both variants on my actual name), and back at the old, 'The Forum', 'Cruise' and I started to compare the observations of our views from opposite sides of the world, social and economic backgrounds.
The more we did so, the more we showed the distracters and straight out liars for what they were, until "They" had no choice but to close The Forum
without any real warning for folk to save any of useful and FACTUAL information posted there by the many of us that the "Pack of Agent Dogs",
constantly tore at, rather than getting on with revealing more of the yet to be covered 'TRICKS of MASS BRAINWASHING'/"SOCIAL ENGINEERING".

Then at The Unhived Mind, 'Cruise' had enough of wondering why I seemed to be the only one pointing to the secret truths and public lies about OZ (Australia) and jumped on a plane to come and SEE FOR HIMSELF. Having already a great deal of local understanding of the 'Secret Shared History'
between OZ and Holland, and being world traveled enough to know the dire
straits of lands "They" kept insisting were all but paradise compared to OZ.

And well, didn't that just shoot down all the attacks against me that "They" invented and kept posting for want of counter arguments to what I was presenting.

Like I was supposed to be some bitter, fat, lonely, judgmental, fearful, brainwashed, 'Church indoctrinated' person who didn't know anything of the real world, just because I would not deny that I trust The Creator, and so that was supposed to cause 'truth seekers' to ignore all the real world news I was posting about.

Well, welcoming a NET STRANGER into my family home, giving over my bedroom (with all my 'stuff' still in it), for his private space, doing my first driving in years, along the Great Ocean Road at night, and visiting RIVAL Biker Pubs to enjoy beers and Table holding Pool games,that had us warmly welcomed back by those 'Ground Dwelling Elite' of common, ATHEIST society, made a total mockery of the LIES "They" constantly posted about my character, based purely on my admission of faith.

So what is "John White" doing now?

ATTACKING the character of 'Cruise', who yes, does enjoy a drink, but for
an occasion or at the end of the day, and then is a perfectly lucid, sound thinking, OBSERVANT person the next morning.

And as tintin has admitted himself, he can post 'drunk and angry' on occasion
(and far from the only one, yet "They" are willing 'forgiven'), but he also does apologize and asks us to ignore those posts.

It still doesn't take away from all the astute observations he shares with us,
right across everything from sport, history, entertainments and finance etc.

What has "John White" added to this massive subject that is far too big for
a few individuals to cover?

Sweet FA; too busy promoting his personal 'guru status' around the WEB that NETS folk in deceptions!

Now tintin may or may not be Cruise (I'm a Ludite but know you can't "prove"
anyone to be who they claim on the NET, or even an actual real person), but it is the ACTUAL PERSON who TRAVELED ACROSS THE WORLD and stayed with me (true-lilly) and my family, who "John White" is attacking, and FUNNIER STILL, accusing ME of "GROOMING"!!!

How the hell does a carless pov living in Government housing for 'the sins' of exposing corrupt Police and Government Officials, influence someone who can
up and spend 3 weeks on the other side of the world?
"SEX" you say..nah, I've had all my children to the man I married and have no desire to risk half-siblings, so am happily celibate in my friendly separation...yeah, he also met and got on great with my estranged husband,
who also lent us his car for the few days he was interstate and drove us to pick up and drop off the hire car, and to the airport to see him off safely.

So what is BEHIND "John White's" ATTACKS against two individual, REAL people, and his NEED to do it on threads REVEALING THE BIG PICTURE PLAN?

The FACT that "he"/"They" STILL HAVE NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS to the
"BIG PICTURE PLANS" of the world ruling 'elite', that us mere 'commoners'
are to be kept HOODWINKED from SEEING, and that just happen to be presented by people who have NO INVESTMENT in the 'conspiracy' INDUSTRY,
but just HATE BEING LIED TO.

And at least in my case, the ONLY worldly investment I have, is the WELL WATERED, FERTILE property we bought in the eighties for our children
to live on when good food and water becomes even more restrictively priced.

We could be a hundred typing monkey's, 'we' DON'T MATTER when the
TRUTH we present, STANDS ON IT'S OWN....and if it doesn't, ARGUE YOUR
CASE AGAINST the SUBJECT "John White".

Oh, and apologies for this log winded post, but it further goes to show the value of tintin's posts, in that I can read a News story and see too many coded messages to know where to start, that he can just cut the fat off and make easily digestible.

Plus, 'Cruise' and I or tintin and I are not some team working in cahoots,
and in fact have had our own strong disagreements, but somehow we both
keep stumbling across the same themes of coded languages and messages
at the same time.

And note also that that is what we do, we look at REAL EVENTS in the REAL WORLD, past and present, posting the actual articles and further links for others to explore for themselves rather than wanting them to simply take our word on anything.

We don't just post copies of PRODUCTS INVENTED, and OCCULT mindSETS SOLD by the oogudy-boogudy 'conspiracy' INDUSTRY, then try to TELL folk that is "reality".

See folks,
Sometimes I am a bit desperate in life.
All the lies and the cheating, the killing and raping,
the bombings of innocent people, the horrors, the diseases,
etc,etc.

Sometimes it's just too much to handle.
But thank GOD, there are people like Vera Susa and a bunch
of other people on this board, that show us what humanity
is all about.

Just ordinary folks, but with a real HUMAN heart.
call me sentimental or whatever, but it's those people that
gets me going.

When I wake up in the morning with a bit of a hangover
it's always a bit embarrassing for me to see
that the "JOHN WHITES" of this world have succeeded again in
alluring me into a senseless mud fight.

What's the point of that?
there is no point.
You can judge for yourselves folks.
They don't discuss the facts.
They want to get us angry, whatever, as long as
it diverts from the topic.

I am trying to EXPOSE the RAPISTS and KILLERS of this world.
I am SICK of those SATANIC EVIL SCUMBAGS.

BASTA!!

I have had enough.
So I 'd rather be dead than to live under their rule.
And so it's just another day, and I will continue with
my research.

In a way you even have to respect the "john whites" of this
world. Exposing yourselves like that on an open forum, for
everyone to see, as the heroic defenders of their occult masters...
It takes some gutz...

[klinker]

I am also interesting in how the Cricket scores are seen as code to those in the know?

[tintin]

So who is the SEA KING?

The WATER MANAGER,
PRINCE WILLEM of ORANGE,
or does "BRITANIA" Still "RULE THE WAVES"
or is it still 'much of a muchness'?

How far are we from the REALLY BIG,
ROYAL FAMILY FEUD....
gotta wonder when you see these two
"Breaking Headlines,
in this order, then see all those
SAINTLY KINGS,
listed and "NUMBERED"!


Maintenance failing
in Sea King chopper
5:02pm (AEST)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22628146-29277,00.html

A MAINTENANCE failure
was behind an incident
in which one of the navy's
Sea King
helicopters
made a forced landing,
the defence department said.



Up to 17 hurt
in 14-car pile-up
4:53pm (AEST)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22628136-29277,00.html

THREE people had to be freed
from the wreckage of a 14-car pile-up
in Sydney's south today
which injured
up to 17 people.

A 55-year-old man was taken to
Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital with chest injuries.

Another person was taken to
Liverpool
Hospital in a serious condition.

A third person was taken to
St George
Hospital in a serious but stable condition.

No further details about their injuries were immediately available.

Four more people were taken to
St George
Hospital in a stable condition,
while the condition of three people taken to
Sutherland
Hospital was also described as stable.

Seven people were still
being assessed on the scene by ambulance officers.



So, 'only' HURT, no one killed,
and "UP TO" 17 could be
as little as 10, but hey,
the NUMBER 17
and
the PRINCE of ORANGE
just go together, don't they....

Yes the importance of the number 17.
Go back to the 17th century.
The GOLDEN century for HOLLAND
and it was a COMPANY that ruled the World.

It was the VOC. The Verenigde Oost indische Companie.
The united east india company.
They ruled the world in that time.

And the big bosses of that company were the

LORDS SEVENTEEN.

The HEEREN ZEVENTIEN.
So in amsterdam you have a canal called
the HERENGRACHT, the LORDS CANAL.
It's, together withthe GRAND CANAL in Venice, probably
the most wealthy "street" on earth.

http://www.gouden-bocht.nl/beeld/gouden/begin.jpg

It's palace after palace, a few miles.
Go in one of those GRACHTENPANDEN, and you won't
believe what you see.

That's the heritage of that 17th century.

http://www.amsterdamsebinnenstad.nl/binnenstad/199/dialezing/water01.jpg

A lot of that is now owned by banks but there are
still also a lot of people living there.
Have always asked myself.
Who are those people that live there?

Amsterdam. MASTERDAM.
The MASTERS live here. The ROYAL PALACE in Amsterdam.

http://www.koningkeizerrijken.info/prins-willem-alexander.jpg

This the BOSS of the world.
(not really, Satan rules him).
He is born 27 april. That's the 117th day.
he is the number ONE mister SEVENTEEN.

And how much more can you have a symbolic name.
WILLIAM the CONQUEROR and ALEXANDER THE GREAT.

But that's not enough.
Here is his spouse.

http://www.koningkeizerrijken.info/prinses-maxima.jpg

MAXIMA.
Maximum power.

She was born 17 may.
that's the 137th day of the year.

137 and the year 1307.
Templars year.

the DA VINCI CODE movie was released that date.
In chapter 17 you can read who is the DRACONIAN DEVIL.

that the guy who was raised in DRAKESTEIJN (draco castle).
The Royal boat is the GREEN DRAGON.
Their home in toscanny is ROCCA DEI DRACONIE.

http://www.linkelink.nl/images/Koningin_Beatrix_25_jarig_Jubileum_klein.jpg

Queen BEATRIX, better known
as TRIX. We are children
of MA-TRIX.

http://www.westbroek.com/pix/logged/01/beatrix.jpg

New York was NEW AMSTERDAM.
Amsterdam was called AMSTELREDAM at birth. Numeric
code of 666. Amsterdam, the city were SYMBOLICALLY the
JEWS were sacrificed. ANNE FRANK was from AMSTERDAM.

By far the most jews , on a percentage basis, that were killed
in the Holocaust were the Amsterdam jews. (about 100.000,from
a population of 120.000)

Centered around WATERLOO square.
in all the SYMBOLISM you can see ORANGE on top.
the ORANGE ORDER.

Willem alexander is the 888 water prince. The coming KING of the NIGHT.

888. So remember BIN LADEN?
Bin laden was born 88.800 hours before Price Alexander.

Alexander met MAXIMA in SEVILLA.

http://pascolo.images.infostradasports.com/images/lib/news/medium/PRO_98261_FredericKanouteSevilla.jpg

SEVILLA and 888.

The first man to see THE NEW WORLD was from SEVILLA.
Half of the most important OPERAS are located in SEVILLA.

MAXIMA and ALEXANDER are the GIANTS of SEVILLE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/MartinVanBurenBates.jpeg

MARTIN van BUREN bates.

The GIANT of SEVILLE ohio.
Technically the first US president was MARTIN Van BUREN.

When Prince Alexander goes INCOGNITO he is

W.A. van BUREN.

The GIANT of SEVILLE was born 9 NOVEMBER. (911)
and died 7 january. 17.

The GIANTS of SEVILLE are ALEXANDER and MAXIMA.

[tintin]

I am also interesting in how the Cricket scores are seen as code to those in the know?

Absoutely an important "Code" sport.
just like that other elite sport Golf.

But since I am no cricket fan, haven't looked
at that sport, but Vera susa has posted about it
on unhived.

And probably all sports have a masonic background.
Football, for instance, was "designed" in the FREEMASON's TAVERN in
Great Queen street.

[klinker]

Absoutely an important "Code" sport.
just like that other elite sport Golf.

But since I am no cricket fan, haven't looked
at that sport, but Vera susa has posted about it
on unhived.

And probably all sports have a masonic background.
Football, for instance, was "designed" in the FREEMASON's TAVERN in
Great Queen street.


Generally speaking when I look at the cricket scores all that comes to mind is that the England team are shit. You don't need a code for that. ;)

[vera susa]

Ah The Chasers, what enlightening fun!

Now elsewhere I posted a lot on the importance of SOUTHERN CROSS TEN
and their "Warning ads" for the "Right" people to get themselves down here before transports are shut down and borders are closed, and though it is a comedy piece, it does use an actual ad and shows the theme of "the message".

The missing bits are; "THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE TO BE, SERIOUSLY".

The Chaser's War on Everything - Channel Ten Ad - YouTube

[tintin]

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/t0/t713.jpg

FBI PROBES MAGICIAN
DAVID COPPERFIELD.

See the link and Vera Susa's post about him..

So what was one of his most famous acts?

http://wirednewyork.com/landmarks/liberty/images/liberty.jpg

DAVID COPPERFIELD
let's the Statue of
LIBERTY DISAPPEAR

Copperfield and the Liberty?

David Copperfield and Charles DICKENS.
Charles DICKENS. CD. Washington DC. DC = 43.

We have a DICK in the white house.
A DICK that is CHAINED.
Dick Cheney. DC. 43.

[kaibraine]

Hi Tintin

I really enjoy reading your posts but can you tell me how you came up with this information please?

888. So remember BIN LADEN?
Bin laden was born 88.800 hours before Price Alexander.

I can find no record of any time of birth for Osama Bin Laden or Prince Willem. The Information I come up with for these persons is as following....


Osama bin Muhammad bin 'Awad bin Laden (Arabic: أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن; born March 10, 1957[1]), most often mentioned as Osama bin Laden or Usama bin Laden, is a militant Islamist and is reported to be the founder of the terrorist organization called al-Qaeda.

source: Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and

Prince Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange, (Willem-Alexander Claus George Ferdinand Prins van Oranje, Prins der Nederlanden, Prins van Oranje-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg, born April 27, 1967) is the eldest son of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and is the heir apparent to the Dutch throne, with the style HRH The Prince of Orange (in Dutch: "Z.K.H. (Zijne Koninklijke Hoogheid) de Prins van Oranje").


source: Wikipedia: Willem-Alexander, Prince Of Orange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander%2C_Prince_of_Orange)

I know this is my first post at this forum and that it may seem like I am trying to discredit your information but this is not the case I promise. I am searching for truth, just as you are, but I am very careful about which information I listen to and without some sort of source provided it is very difficult to follow your work.

As you can see there is a gap of 10 years and 48 days between Osama and the Prince of Orange according to Wiki. You say it is 88.8 hours? Can you please provide your sources for this information you are providing? Or otherwise explain exactly how you managed to come up with 88.8 hours as a connection between them?

thanks

Iain

[kaibraine]

Ok I´m with you. You made a typo....

from google

(10 years) plus (48 days) = 88 810.1277 hours

it´s damned close to 88,800 I admit...10 hours and we don´t have exact birth times...spooky

Iain

[tintin]

Now I took the amount of days between their births.
That's 10 years. 10 x365 = 3650. Plus 48 days
is 3698 plus two leap days. makes 3700 days.

3700 x 24 is 888.00.

That's how I did it.
But I don't know the exact time of their births.

See, and even the 3700 days is interesting.
1307 is the year of the TEMPLAR purge.
Princess Maxima was born 17 may. the 137th day of the year.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Osama_bin_Laden.jpg

FROM WIKIPEDIA, the MESSAGE site.

A bit of a big picture but take a look at that
yellow plate.

You see AQ 00100.

A the first letter, Q the seventeenth
So AQ is 117.

ALEXANDER was born 27 april.
That's the 117th day of the year.

AQ number one and that number one is the PRINCE of ORANGE....

And I am still thinking about that other number.
01-455-A.

Any ideas folks?

[seaweed]

On UK TV ITV2 now, 7.00.pm. rerun of The New Adventures of Superman - episode about a bomb hidden in the basement of the Metropolis Trade Tower...

[kaibraine]

And I am still thinking about that other number.
01-455-A.

Any ideas folks?


Ok this is a bit far out but here goes.....

assuming 0-1455-A is 14551 I found that there is an asteroid 14551 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asteroids/14501%E2%80%9314600) that is called Itagaki. What is kind of weird is that all asteroids have numbers but not all have names...14551 did.

So who is Itagaki?SeishirÅ� Itagaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediawas a japanese man born into the Samurai class! Whats more he was was a general in the Imperial Japanese Army in World War II and a War Minister. Looking through this page I couldn´t find anything really interesting and was about to give up when I found this:

He surrendered Japanese forces in Southeast Asia to British General Louis Montbatten in Singapore on 12 September 1945.

so I clicked the link to Louis Montbatten...

Admiral of the Fleet Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas George Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, KG, GCB, OM, GCSI, GCIE, GCVO, DSO, PC (25 June 1900–27 August 1979) was a British admiral and statesman and an uncle of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. He was the last Viceroy and first Governor-General of independent India, and First Sea Lord, as was his father, Prince Louis of Battenberg. Mountbatten was assassinated by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), who planted a bomb in his boat at Mullaghmore, County Sligo in the Republic of Ireland.

First Sea Lord??

surely there is connection to Alexander here...

[tintin]

Mmmm, think I will have to dig a bit into SUPERMAN.....

But I have just "decoded" that 1455 number you see in that
big BIN LADEN picture above.
And again it shows WILLEM ALEXANDER as BIN LADEN.

1455. We go to the year 1455.

And we don't need to dig deep.
It 's the first thing you see.

On 8 january Pope Nicholas V publishes ROMANUS PONTIFEX,
an encyclical addressed to KING AFONSO V of Portuagal
which sanctions

THE CONQUEST OF NON CHRISTIAN
LANDS AND THE REDUCTION OF
NATIVE NON CHRISTIANS POPULATIONS
TO "PERPETUAL SLAVERY"

So that sums up quite nicely what mister BUSH plans for the world.

But see the ALEXANDER LINK.

ROMANUS PONTIFEX.

http://www.biblelight.net/23gold.jpg

THE POPE is the
PONTIFEX MAXIMUS.

http://royalfan.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/maxima_jarig.jpg

The male form of MAXIMA
is MAXIMUS. So MAXIMA is
Married to MAXIMUS.

The most powerful man on earth is not the POPE, not the
BLACK POPE, but the PONITFEX MAXIMUS from THE HAGUE.

And what POPE was it?
NICHOLAS V. The number 5. the number of DEATH.
The POPE Is the "HOLY" FATHER.

So who was the "HOLY" FATHER of the PRINCE of ORANGE?

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/claus.jpg

NICHOLAS

Prince CLAUS, which is the same as Nicholas.

You have SANTA CLAUS, when the celebrate the birth of CHRIST.
Alexander is the Anti-Christ.

And also interesting.
In 1455 the KING OF DENMARK was born

Hamlet. the KING of DENMARK.
The PRINCE of DENMARK is now married to a scottish OZZIE.
Mary DONALDSON.

But take a look when that KING of DENMARK was BORN
in that year 1455.

2 FEBRUARY.
ALEXANDER and MAXIMA
married 2 FBRUARY 2002.

PS, Kaibrain just saw your 1455 post. Fascinating stuff.
Did you know that there is COPY of
the Residence of Queen BEATRIX in Japan?
HUIS TEN BOSCH (like Jeroen BOSCH, the painter of HELL)

And that SAMURAI thing is also interesting.
Alain Delon, Le Samourai, but also.....

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/MarchApril03/ateherandelon.JPG

TEHERAN 43.
The big PERSIAN WAR.

[tintin]

Ok this is a bit far out but here goes.....

assuming 0-1455-A is 14551 I found that there is an asteroid 14551 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asteroids/14501%E2%80%9314600) that is called Itagaki. What is kind of weird is that all asteroids have numbers but not all have names...14551 did.

So who is Itagaki? Seishiro Itagaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itagaki_Seishiro)was a japanese man born into the Samurai class! Whats more he was was a general in the Imperial Japanese Army in World War II and a War Minister. Looking through this page I couldn´t find anything really interesting and was about to give up when I found this:



so I clicked the link to Louis Montbatten...



First Sea Lord??

surely there is connection to Alexander here...

FIRST SEA LORD!!

Alexander is the WATERMANAGER.
the dutch RULED the SEAS in the 17th century.
The prince is the LORD SEVENTEEN.

The VOC company RULED the world in
the 17th century.

The bosses were the

LORDS SEVENTEEN

http://frenchfilms.topcities.com/1967_Le_Samourai.jpg

The SAMURAI link. Alain Delon as the Samurai.
You just saw him in TEHERAN 43.

http://blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_41d/mobilesamurai41/7285436.jpg

DELON is the BLACK TULIP.

So and what is TULIP country? Holland.
But Tulips originate from PERSIA.
So the IRAN link again.

[kaibraine]

October 22nd 1997 was the day asteroid 14551 was discovered.

Who died on that date in 1751?

William IV, Prince of Orange (September 1, 1711 – October 22, 1751)

246 years previously...that number mean anything to you tintin?

[tintin]

http://www.supermantv.net/superman/comicbooks/new/superman-flying.jpg

Superman. See the big S?

Well that's the S for SUPERMAN but also the
S of

SEVENTEEN.

the Lord Seventeen.

Superman is from DC COMICS.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Dc2005.JPG

DC comics. DC stands for Detective comics.
Washington DC.
DC is 43. the 43rd president.

Headquarters, get this

1700 BROADWAY.

And remember. NEW YORK was NEW AMSTERDAM.
and the headquarters of DC comics were also
located some time ago

666 FIFTH AVENUE.

So that 666 and 17.
The numeric code of Alexander is 666+ 666 + 666.
(His full name, Willem alexander van Oranje Nassau.A=6, b=12,c=18,etc)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Supermandvdcover1.jpg

We have the SUPERMAN MOVIE.
Who is the VILAIN? LEX LUTHOR. But make that ALEXANDER Luthor.

Chritopher REEVE had QUADROPLEGIA. the Q. Seventeen.
(after he fell from a horse)

He married DANA MOROSINI in WILLIAM-town.
Willam alexander.

"CHRIST" REEVE had three children. Matthew and
WILLIAM and ALEXANDRA.

WIllem ALEXANDER.

So we have a CHRIST with WILLIAM and ALEXANDRA.
the Anti-Christ.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/The_Omen_movie.jpg

That SUPERMAN MOVIE was directed by RICHARD DONNER.
And he also directed THE OMEN.

Reverse OMEN and you get NEMO.

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/2003/images/FindingNemo_poster.jpg

NEMO is that
little ORANGEFish

The Prince of ORANGE.
So if you want to find the anti christ look for NEMO.
And NEMO is in AMSTERDAM.

http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/nemo/Exterior%203.jpg

THE NEMO building in
Amsterdam.

Huge building. it's a ship.
Designed by RENZO PIANO.
A piano has 88 KEYS. Alex the 888 water manager.
The LORD SEVENTEEN of the SEAS, and the Merovingian
anti-christ king...

[tintin]

October 22nd 1997 was the day asteroid 14551 was discovered.

Who died on that date in 1751?

William IV, Prince of Orange (September 1, 1711 – October 22, 1751)

246 years previously...that number mean anything to you tintin?

Yes.
I have been busy in the MADELEINE thread.
And there you can find all kinds of TWIN connections.
the Mccanns have TWINS, Bush has TWINS, the TWIN towers, etc,etc.

Madeleine disappeared 3 may. That's the 123 rd day of the year.
But let's take a TWIN pair of 123.
123 + 123 = 246.

Alexander married 2-2 2002.
That are four numbers TWO. Or four TWINS, if you will.
2 X 123 is 246.

123. that's like a START.
ABC. Also a 123.
The ABC weapons.
ATOMIC, BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL weapons.

Remember the WTC attacks, the TWIN TOWERS.
that was NINE ELEVEN. 911.
So we have 365 days in a year.

365 minus 246 = 119.

[kaibraine]

I find this totally astounding. The connections that can be made seem to be everywhere!!
What is your theory about all these connections?
Are we creating them?
Is it just a case of finding the connections because we are looking for them? Creating our own reality through our belief systems?
Or is it "THEM" or "HIM" or whatever, in other words is something or somebody else creating them according to some master plan.
Or are they all just chance?....I´d love to hear about your stance/beliefs about all these astounding numerological/symbological connections. I know you believe they are the "yellow brick road" that leads to OZ but what causes them in your opinion? Where did they come from? Are you religious? I really am fascinated by these threads.

[emerald]

I mite be ranting but there is also a mexican actress of mainly telenovelas with a strange first name, Iran (Castillo). Nothing suspect about her (as far as i could see), perhaps the final number of her birthdate (4.01.1977), 11 (2) and the name of the city she was born in, Veracruz (True Cross). So a variant - according to my brain lol - seem to be the forced/false christianity imposed on a foreign people.
Another item its the name of oriental countries/cities found on another latitudes, especially in the US. There are many cities/towns, provinces having the name of Persia, Memphis, Lebanon, Athens, Syria, Egypt and I think behind them occultism only is hiding. What do u think, Tintin?

[emerald]

Regarding Nemo, I know it means "nobody" in Latin. So theres a big orange nobody lol. On the darker side, another anagram of Nemo is emon or Demon without a "D"...

[tintin]

I find this totally astounding. The connections that can be made seem to be everywhere!!
What is your theory about all these connections?
Are we creating them?
Is it just a case of finding the connections because we are looking for them? Creating our own reality through our belief systems?
Or is it "THEM" or "HIM" or whatever, in other words is something or somebody else creating them according to some master plan.
Or are they all just chance?....I´d love to hear about your stance/beliefs about all these astounding numerological/symbological connections. I know you believe they are the "yellow brick road" that leads to OZ but what causes them in your opinion? Where did they come from? Are you religious? I really am fascinated by these threads.

Well this is a question that goes directly into the heart of things.
I mean, all these connections, seems impossible to "orchestrate" it
all.

There seems to be a masterplan, for sure.
So who is behind that masterplan?

We have SATAN and GOD.
God is totally in control ultimately.
But SATAN is now ruling the world.

But how it all works?; it's maybe the same as with
magicians. Once you see the trick then you understand how it's done.
And then you know it was very simple.

Computer programs, Kaballah, all those occult orders,
they play a lot with Magic, and with numbers.

Numbers are used to DIVIDE us.
Life is not about numbers but about the spirit.
Or love if you will.

So we live in a world being dominated by numbers.
The barcode number, the numbers tattooed in the camps.

So all this number fixation is anti-christian I think.
Being the NUMBER ONE.
All is focused on those things.

We have lists in all kind of things.
Everything is reduced to numbers.
As if we live in a giant computer game.

And what Is GOD's part in all of it.
I was raised in an Atheist family.
We laughed a bit at all that religious nonsense.

But of course the organized religions are all anti-christian.
Only recently I was convinced that GOD does indeed exists.
He is watching what we are doing.
Life is a little exam.

If you serve GOD then in the end it will all be fine.
Vera susa was the one that "converted" me.
So I consider myself a Christian today.

And Christians are not always those ever HAPPY SMILING folks that
they are portrayed as.
I am quite a heavy drinking Christian. Ha,ha. God doesn't like that at
all. Just as my mother btw.

But just to show that we all have our weaknesses.
You have to overcome these kind of things.
All part of this giant and very "MYSTERIOUS" adventure we call LIFE.

So yes, it is sometimes mysterious.
like that question people always ask.
If there is a GOD then why does he allow all this misery?

That's another tough nut to crack.
But sometimes you understand things later in life.
You look back and you can see why certain things happened.

And do we have choices? Are we really free?
I think we do have a choice.
And in the end it's about one real choice.
Serve God or serve Satan.

See, here's another difference between Satan and God.
Satan wants you to FEAR him.
God wants you to LOVE him.

So people that are trapped in SATAN's arms are deadly afraid.
That is what you see in masonry.
All those ridiculous rituals.

All with THREATs that if you betray the rules then the
most horrific punishment will follow.

God is not threatening. God forgives. Like Christ teaches us.
So serve God and God will serve you and no need to fear whatsoever...

[vera susa]

On UK TV ITV2 now, 7.00.pm. rerun of The New Adventures of Superman - episode about a bomb hidden in the basement of the Metropolis Trade Tower...

O.K., now that is freaky, because in in OZ, on the ABC:

The Bamboo Blonde
2:20am Tuesday, 23 Oct 2007 Movies Repeat G

A nightclub singer is promoted when
a likeness of her
face is painted on
a WWII bomber
that goes on to sink Japanese battleships
and down several enemy planes.
CAST: Frances Langford, Ralph Edwards
DIR: Anthony Mann (1946)


But it's freaking me because I fell asleep watching


Children Of Abraham
11:40pm Monday, 22 Oct 2007
Society and Culture Repeat CC G

Reporter Mark Dowd explores
the troubled relationship
between the three Abrahamic faiths -
Judaism, Christianity and Islam,
in the aftermath of 9/11.


then woke up to see the scene of the nose of the BOMBER,
painted like

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Boeing-B29/enolagay/bockscar.jpg

only with the cheesecake image of the Bamboo Blond
where the BOCKSCAR is, and the crew is discussing what to
NAME HER,
and come up with Bamboo Blood...(oops, scarry typo..) Blond
after a colour used in painting her hair
(now ENOLA GAY is a weirdly memourable name ain't it),
so in this movie, that also had some
very real bombing scenes,
"They" managed to combine
both of the planes below,
with a 'made up' womans name and
a 'made up' picture of 'someone'...

The Enola Gay and Bockscar B-29s
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Boeing-B29/enolagay/bockscar-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Boeing-B29/enolagay/enolagay.htm&h=299&w=381&sz=14&hl=en&start=70&um=1&tbnid=18a9n1u3JFkUtM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Denola%2Bgay%26start%3D60%26ndsp%3D20% 26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

In June, aircraft and crew flew to
Tinian Island in the Marianas.
From there, Bockscar,
named for its pilot Frederick C. Bock,
flew five Bockscar B-29 Boeing
super fortressbombing missions.

On four of these, a 10,000 pound bomb
loaded with high explosives
was dropped.

Nicknamed "pumpkin" bombs
because of their shape
and orange color,
these were the same size and shape
as the actual
"fat man" atomic bomb
dropped at Nagasaki.


Remember that "LITTLE PUMPKIN" story,
how "They" INSISTED that we
KEEP CALLING HER "PUMPKIN"
even after she and all her family
where pictured and identified
around the world....

and "They" still haven't found her
CHINESE father who murdered
her CHINESE mother
in KEYSTONE Ave NEW ZEALAND,
then flew to AUSTRALIA with "PUMPKIN"
and LEFT HER SAFE at
SOUTHER CROSS STATION,
before he flew to AMERICA
with his SAMURAI SWORD....

[tintin]

I mite be ranting but there is also a mexican actress of mainly telenovelas with a strange first name, Iran (Castillo). Nothing suspect about her (as far as i could see), perhaps the final number of her birthdate (4.01.1977), 11 (2) and the name of the city she was born in, Veracruz (True Cross). So a variant - according to my brain lol - seem to be the forced/false christianity imposed on a foreign people.
Another item its the name of oriental countries/cities found on another latitudes, especially in the US. There are many cities/towns, provinces having the name of Persia, Memphis, Lebanon, Athens, Syria, Egypt and I think behind them occultism only is hiding. What do u think, Tintin?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Iranmax.jpg

IRAN CASTILLO PINZON.

This a pic from Wiki.
It's a promotional pic for the MAX MAGAZINE.
THE PRINCESS MAXIMA link. The spouse of the Anti-Christ.
And it's the Anti-Christ that will make IRAN BLACK.

So what colour is she dressed? BLACK.

An look how she is posing.
That's a BOXING pose.

http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/duran.jpg

So just like that other IRAN, boxer IRAN BARKLEY
this IRAN is telling there will be a BOX match with IRAN.

http://www.autographedtoyou.com/CelebPics/iran_barkley4.jpg

Google Iran Barkley and this is the first pic.
Look at his trousers.

SPARTAN.

THE SPARTANS against
the PERSIANS.

So it is IRAN CASTILLO PINZON.
Pinzon. The PINZON brothers and COLUMBUS.
COLUMBUS, IRAN and AMERICA.
All in her name.

And the name CASTILLO.
Cstillo or Castille.
Spain, Madrid, the spanish inquisition.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/IranCastillo_Tatuada.jpg

TATTOOED.
A tattoo is a mark. the MARK of the beast. And IRAN is "MARKED".
Besos is KISSES. The Kiss of JUDAS.
Album from 1999 (666)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/IranTiempos.jpg

First album of IRAN.
Tiempos Nuevos. The NEW TIME.
And it's PURPLE the color
of GENOCIDE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Clase406_cast.jpg

Class 406.
A soap opera that IRAN played in.
Here we have the MADELEINE LINK.

IRAN was MAGDALENA

a remake of a TV series from COLOMBIA.
Madeleine and COLOMBOLA.

And al those name like Memhis and Lebanon?
Yep, just look at ELVIS, the KING. From MEMPHIS.
And Martin Luther KING. Shot dead in MEMPHIS.

Two KINGS and MEMPHIS.

And here we have another EGYPTIAN King.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Yul_Brynner_in_The_Ten_Commandments_film_trailer.j pg

Yul Brynner. The EGYPTIAN KING.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/259111.1020.A.jpg

BRYNNER GOT AN OSCAR
FOR THIS ONE.

The KING and EYE.

The EYE of MADELEINE. and the ALL SEEING EGYPTIAN EYE.

The movie was based o this book.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Anna_and_the_king_of_siam75.jpg

SIAM. SIAMESE TWINS.

And the author of that book is also very interesting.
It's MARGARET LANDON.

She died in ALEXANDRIE.
ALEXANDRIE is in EGYPT.

But this was ALEXANDRIE VIRGINIA. (Virgin mary)

Born as MARGARET DOROTHEA MORTENSON.

The MM connection. MARGARET MORTENSON

MARILYN MONROE. the LINE of MARY MAGDALENA.
NORMA JEAN MORTENSON.
She lived in washington DC and hubby worked for the US
stae department.

[vera susa]

So here again we have the 'message';

YOUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE at
THE STATION of The SOUTHERN CROSS;
yes this little toddler was left alone,
in the busy city Railway Station
of MELBOURNE,
and TAKEN INTO LOVING CARE by this
WHOLE NATION,
then RE-UNITED with her
MATERNAL Grand Mother
and
LONG LOST OLDER Half SISTER
who 'til then didn't know
"PUMPKIN" EXISTED.

But in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE,
AT THE SAME TIME,
a toddler left in a
"CHILD SAFE" Holiday RESORT,
VANISHES....

and,
THE SAMURAI SWORD,
that went to
LOS ANGLES,
is still HIDDEN and FREE
in AMERICA.

oh, and just to get it on record;
I TOLD 'Cruise' to give me a kick if I got 'preachy' on that thread,
as I didn't want to scare folk off the information shared in CODE
by the SERVANTS of The BEAST,
but it was the discoveries he was making himself,
and I suppose SEEING OZ and that REAL CHRISTIANS
don't "BELONG" to 'Worldly churches' and DO 'live in the REAL world',
while NOT being "OF" the world, that led to him being the one
who kept pointing to the 'Creator V Deceiver' message.

Which is also how God says it should be. Just speak the truth,
and let the hearts answer, but don't try 'converting' folk as it
is ONLY of VALUE if it is a FREE WILL CHOICE.

All those 'ritual rules' of COUNTERFEIT 'Christian' churches,
are designed by the DECEIVER to DRIVE good folk FROM God,
by making it 'impossibly hard' to be 'good enough' and worse still,
PREVENTS people from "DOING JUSTICE", Loving our neighbours in an EDIFYING way, rather than 'judging' them 'unworthy' of God's Spiritual
and 'worldly' Blessings...like withholding employment, respect, WATER...

It really is a simple call to "DO THE RIGHT THING within your means".

He doesn't ask more of us that we have to give.

The only thing 'hard' about being a CHRISTIAN is the PERSECUTIONS
you DO SUFFER from ALL 'churches', 'religions' and Anti-Christs, who
HATE you for CHOOSING NOT TO JOIN "THEM", but remain faithful to
searching the WILL of The CREATOR of LIFE, in ALL you do.

[vera susa]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Iranmax.jpg

IRAN CASTILLO PINZON.


An look how she is posing.
That's a BOXING pose.

http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/duran.jpg

So just like that other IRAN, boxer IRAN BARKLEY
this IRAN is telling there will be a BOX match with IRAN.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/IranTiempos.jpg

[SIZE="5"]First album of IRAN.
Tiempos Nuevos. The NEW TIME.

This is what I mean about this "TIMING" thing
that keeps happening in these threads.

While tintin is posting on the IRAN BOXING link, I'm posting on the
BOCKSCAR (Boxcar) BOMBER, "PUMPKIN", "FAT BOY" ENOLA GAY link,
then I see an old favourite of mine, in his post;

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]The "BIRD OF PARADISE" Flower
in IRAN CASTILLO PINZON'S album.

In an old thread, I covered a lot of SOUTH AMERICA,
(as that is where MOSES led Israel from,
that the Catholic Spaniards
destroyed the bulk of the evidence of
before allowing Europeans to settle there)
and this "WORLD FAMOUS" 'artist';


[B]Albert Eckhout, a Dutch painter
who accompanied an expedition to northeast Brazil
from 1637 to 1644.

http://www.remarc.com/craig/images/eckhout_east_indies_fruitx500.jpg

(but that is a
Major Mitchell COCKATOO,
and OZZIE NATIVE,
and this is BEFORE OZ
was 'offically' discovered!)

http://www.remarc.com/craig/images/eckhout_marmelukax200.jpg

(and there in what's supposed to be Brazil,
is the AFRICAN NATIVE, "BIRD of PARADISE" Flower")

His paintings document the wonderful new plants
that came to Europe from the New World,
and forced botanists to come up with a system of classification
that would work for them as well.

NO, his paintings were CODE for
"this is what we're telling the profane,
but this is what the 'Right Royal Elite' must know".

[vera susa]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42001000/gif/_42001036_bbc_logo_2.gif
In Pictures
Last Updated: Monday, 22 October 2007, 17:09 GMT 18:09 UK

ALSO IN THE NEWS
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190647_big_pic_203_70_helicopter.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193049443/img/1.jpg

A firefighting helicopter drops water over a bush fire in Malibu Canyon,
on California's coast.
The Santa Ana winds are fanning wildfires,
which are being fought by hundreds of firefighters. Photo:

Right, now here's an example of just drinking in the info. even if you don't know what it means at the time.

This image disturbs me, but I don't know why...yet.

It feels more to do with the composition, but it disturbs me so much that
I can't focus on why it is.

Sure scenes of deadly wildfires should disturb folk, but it isn't that, or the helicopter (which instantly makes DRAGONfly, spring to mind) or... I don't know, I just get a 'sense' of VIOLENT RAPE...and that one tiny little spot of red that doesn't look like FIRE but a "DROP of BLOOD"...and that there is
NO NAME credited after, Photo:....

Anyway, I hope someone with less sensitivity to violent rapes, can 'see' through what makes me want to forget.

[vera susa]

And here we have the BBC, In Pictures, VALUED EXPOSURE

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193047328/img/1.jpg

Valued exposure: First-class
passengers in a
BOAC Boeing 747 Jumbo Jet in 1970
are served lunch.
Photo: Fox Photos/Getty Images

So I googled;

BOAC Boeing 747 Jumbo Jet in 1970

and got;

Boeing 747 Jumbo Jet - British Airways - Union Jack tail
Widebody Aircraft Parade Pictures - Boeing 747 Jumbo Jet - 747-400 - British ... formed a new airline named BOAC - British Overseas Airways Corporation. ...

http://widebodyaircraft.nl/b747-70.htm

An 'interesting' read,
but again what JUMPED OUT,
beside the Brits SO BLATANTLY
telling their "FIRST CLASS" people
to "GO OVERSEAS",
is the TWO images on that page.

First they have;

http://widebodyaircraft.nl/b7474baw.jpg

British Airways, flying "SOUTH"...

then BritishASIA Airways SAFELY LANDED...
with TWO ROSICRUCIAN ROSE'S....

http://widebodyaircraft.nl/b7474bas.jpg

[mcmenek1]

And just in, something I've waited for....

FBI probes magician
David Copperfield

From correspondents in Kuala Lumpur

October 22, 2007 04:22pm
Article from: Agence France-Presse
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22627974-23109,00.html

DAVID Copperfield has cancelled performances after
the FBI launched an investigation
into the world-famous US magician and illusionist.

The organisers of Copperfield's two-day Kuala Lumpur stint
on October 30 and 31
said the decision to cancel was made after agents from
the Federal Bureau of Investigations
raided Copperfield's storage warehouse
in Los Angeles last week.

(so here we are on the 22nd,
getting this 'news'
that features "2" [TWINNING],
and an "ILLUSIONIST",
who's 'name' makes most think of,

http://bluepyramid.org/ia/dccd.jpg

http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/0590650.jpg

the above being from;
TEMPLEMAN LIBRARY
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/0590650.jpg&imgrefurl=http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/DickExh.htm&h=1026&w=705&sz=258&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=5Jpa4XD31osbBM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddavid%2Bcopperfield%2Bdickens%26svnum %3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DLar%26sa%3DN
but 'of course' it's all just 'innocent coincidence'...)

"He needs to help in the investigations.
Copperfield is not prevented from leaving the United States
but he needs time to get to the bottom of things,"
Arianna Teoh,
director of Arianna Event Management,
said in The Star newspaper.

FBI agents took away a computer hard drive,
digital camera memory chip
and seized
nearly $US2 million ($2.25 million)
in cash during the raid last Wednesday.

They also visited the MGM-Grand Hotel
and Casino on the Vegas Strip,
where Copperfield often performs.

The FBI has not revealed the purpose of the raid
and David Chesnoff, lawyer for the 51-year old magician,
issued only a brief statement.

"We understand there is an investigation, we are in touch with the investigators, and are respecting the confidentiality of the investigation,"
Mr Chesnoff said.

Ms Teoh said Copperfield's performance could still take place later.

"The people here and all his fans have been very supportive of him
and if he is cleared,
then it is possible that he will still continue with the show," she said.

Well done vera susa for spotting this story....... I think this News Story is a major announcement “By The Powers That Be”......


David Copperfield is a world-famous US magician and illusionist and his shows are being cancelled on October 30 and 31 in Kuala Lumpur........ these dates are around Samhain/Halloween this is the high point in the witches year. On Samhain night the veil between the worlds of the living & dead is thin this is a powerful energy time for the occult world “ The Powers That Be” love to create chaos around this time especially financial chaos......... the Wall St Crash on October 29 (1929) for example

Kuala Lumpur The city is home to the tallest twin buildings in the world, the iconic Petronas Twin Towers.


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2839/malaysiamg1.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7913/800pxklccnightur4.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5148/klccpetronastowerskp6.jpg


The symbolic twin towers houses the offices of Bloomberg............ the largest financial news and data company in the world


The FBI also also visited the MGM-Grand Hotel and Casino on the Vegas Strip, where Copperfield often performs.


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6361/lasvegasmgmgrandns8.jpg


Note the Emerald Green Colour of the building....... the colour of Money

The Building has an interesting connection to the Wizard of Oz.........

Quote:
On February 23, 1993, MGM celebrated a "topping off" ceremony with the placement of the last panel of emerald green glass hoisted onto one of the 30-story hotel towers. A total of 5,005 green balloons were released, each containing a gift certificate valid for one complimentary stay in one of the rooms.
When the latest MGM Grand opened on December 18, 1993, it was owned by MGM Grand Inc. At that time it had an extensive Wizard of Oz theme, including the green "Emerald City" colour of the building and the decorative use of Wizard of Oz memorabilia. After entering the casino's main entrance, you would find yourself in the Oz Casino and facing the "Emerald City". Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion were seen in front of the city. The "Emerald City" attraction featured an elaborate yellow brick road walk through. Complete with a cornfield, an apple orchard, the haunted forest as well as audio-animatronic figures of the Scarecrow, Dorothy, the Wicked Witch of the West, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion. It would end at the door of the city, leading inside for a performance of "The Wizard's Secrets". The Oz Casino also featured the Emerald City Gift Shop and the Oz Buffet (became the Grand Buffet in 1996). When the MGM Grand began its extensive refurbishment, the Oz Casino was completely renovated. The Emerald City was completely demolished in 1996. The gift shop however was moved to a new shopping section of the casino, and remained open from 1996 - 2003.

Source wikipedia
MGM Grand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So if we put all this together what do we get...... We get a message from “ The Powers That Be”...... that the magic illusion is going to be cancelled on the 30 & 31 of October...... this magic illusion is the financial illusion “ The Powers That Be”...... have created for us and they are telling us they are going to crash the world financial markets....... In Kuala Lumpur we have the symbolic twin towers the largest in the world housing the offices of Bloomberg............ the largest financial news and data company in the world....... this is the financial connection to the magic illusion

The other financial connection is the Emerald Green Colour of the MGM-Grand Hotel and Casino on the Vegas Strip, where Copperfield often performs his magic illusions and again we have the Wizard of Oz connection to this building.......its all symbolically connected....... be prepared guys for financial meltdown......... on October 30th and 31st..........

A big thank you to vera susa and tintin for leading the way on this....... tintin I couldn’t have put this together with out your guidance towards wikipedia and the significance of the stories and pictures there......... thanks mate.........:)

Love
&
Peace

[seaweed]

Re: David Copperfield.

It has long been rumoured that he has a twin, and that this is how many of his tricks are performed.

There was an apparent incident at a venue exclusive to magicians, where someone was talking to Copperfield, only to see another him emerge from a room. The other Copperfield quickly darted back into the room.

Many magicians and magician's assistants are twins.

There are also rumours that Copperfield is gay, so perhaps the twin is to blame, if the alleged incident took place.

[vera susa]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

DAY IN PICTURES
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7056351.stm
Monday, 22 October 2007, 17:10 GMT 18:10 UK

Right, 10 images today so I won't post them all but it is
worth going to the link to 'read the story'.

Oh, and you don't get to see the TOP captions,
unless you copy from the last image
to the 'Day In Pictures' title.

But the first image was like a slap in the face.
Now what "GOOD SHEPHERD" would lead anyone,
HERE....

An Afghan shepherd on the outskirts of Kabul,
Afghanistan, 22 October 2007
(the DATE is missing from the "PUBLIC" caption)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44191000/jpg/_44191667_afghanshepherd_ap.jpg

A shepherd tends his flock on the outskirts of Kabul, Afghanistan.

When there is this
GLORIOUS GREAT SOUTHERN LAND,
to raise INNOCENT LAMBS on....
http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/O.102%20&%20W.9%202004%20LMB.JPG
VICTORIAN SOUTH SUFFOLK SOCIETY, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/O.102%2520%26%2520W.9%25202004%2520LMB.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/breeddescriptionstandard.htm&h=301&w=400&sz=124&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=SVeV6lTwyvhBtM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsheep%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26svnum%3D10% 26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
http://www.aqs.net.au/sheep/3sheep.jpg
Superfine Saxon Merino, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aqs.net.au/sheep/3sheep.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aqs.net.au/industry%2520news.html&h=577&w=480&sz=19&hl=en&start=53&um=1&tbnid=67S34QGgWiUE0M:&tbnh=134&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsheep%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26start%3D40% 26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26clie nt%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
http://www.dohne.com/images/dohne-sheep.jpg
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dohne.com/images/dohne-sheep.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dohne.com/&h=410&w=650&sz=39&hl=en&start=19&um=1&tbnid=JP-o1qvXM04XsM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmerino%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26svnum%3D10 %26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

What, you "BELIEVED" that OZ was
a "DANGEROUS", "UNLIVABLE",
"WATERLESS" DESERT LAND,
that's "Over" populated
with ONLY 21 million people?

Don't you know WHY "They" DECEIVED us
into "believing" that COW MANURE!

Have another look at that top image
of what "They" call
The GLORIOUS PROMISED LAND....
that "They" also
DECEIVE the WORLD
into SLAUGHTER BILLIONS over.

Well I suppose I should include the other image
to do with SHEEP. The "COLOUR" of the land that
MERINO'S came from; The Land of the BLOODY
CATHOLIC INQUISITION, SPANISH PINK;

US First Lady Laura Bush (centre)
sits next to breast cancer survivors
at Sheikh Khalifa Medical Centre in Abu Dhabi

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190722_416_2abudhabi_afp.jpg

US First Lady Laura Bush joins breast cancer survivors at the
Pink Majlis
in Abu Dhabi as part of a week-long tour of the Middle East
to raise awareness of breast cancer.

Oh, and it's the 8th image!

And remember, that God also told us his faithful may be left alive
though thousands fall all around, but even if you die the first death,
that is only into 'sleep' until we're ALL Resurrected to face our 'Final Accounting', and those still unrepentant WILL suffer the second,
PERMANENT death.

[seaweed]

Re: David Copperfield.

It has long been rumoured that he has a twin, and that this is how many of his tricks are performed.

There was an apparent incident at a venue exclusive to magicians, where someone was talking to Copperfield, only to see another him emerge from a room. The other Copperfield quickly darted back into the room.

Many magicians and magician's assistants are twins.

There are also rumours that Copperfield is gay, so perhaps the twin is to blame, if the alleged incident took place.


Extract from David Copperfield, the novel:

"Arrived at this house in Windsor Terrace (which I noticed was shabby like himself, but also, like himself, made all the show it could), he presented me to Mrs. Micawber, a thin and faded lady, not at all young, who was sitting in the parlour (the first floor was altogether unfurnished, and the blinds were kept down to delude the neighbours), with a baby at her breast. This baby was one of twins; and I may remark here that I hardly ever, in all my experience of the family, saw both the twins detached from Mrs. Micawber at the same time. One of them was always taking refreshment."

Perhaps an intended clue pointing to magician Copperfield's twin?

Yes, it's all about TWINS again.

Also in this novel, some of the characters emigrate to Australia.

[vera susa]

Hey there mcmenek1, and "THANK YOU" and all the other's kicking in here.

I was ...AM...happily 'retired' from NET foruming, and just popped along here to see how that 'International Man of Mystery', who flew down to spend 3 weeks with us in OZ, was getting on here, but I'm being 'caught up in hope', that the years spent, weren't wasted after all.

See it was painful at The Forum, because "They" kept jumping in with bitter lies to derail the subject, and at The Unhived Mind, though we could get on without interference, we also didn't get any help.

It is a HUGE subject, and no way can just a couple or few of us cover every
important detail. It needs a BIG TEAM of "SEEING" eyes and "HEARING" ears.

So at the last place, I just kept hoping others would follow up on KEYS
in the body of stories and articles, but alas, it was always poor 'Cruise'
left do the DETAIL DIGGING & PRESENTING....like I've said, I wouldn't know where to start or finish, but he is GREAT at "cutting the fat".

Time and time again, we'd stumble over the same areas that you could spend a lifetime unraveling, but because we also tried to keep it relevant to life on earth today, we'd have to move on to the next current "warnings" and "messages".

But here, WOW, we aren't alone anymore!
Folk are "SEEING" with "THINKING EYES" and SHARING!
OH YEAY!!!!

[vera susa]

Extract from David Copperfield, the novel:

"Arrived at this house in Windsor Terrace (which I noticed was shabby like himself, but also, like himself, made all the show it could), he presented me to Mrs. Micawber, a thin and faded lady, not at all young, who was sitting in the parlour (the first floor was altogether unfurnished, and the blinds were kept down to delude the neighbours), with a baby at her breast. This baby was one of twins; and I may remark here that I hardly ever, in all my experience of the family, saw both the twins detached from Mrs. Micawber at the same time. One of them was always taking refreshment."

Perhaps an intended clue pointing to magician Copperfield's twin?

Yes, it's all about TWINS again.

Also in this novel, some of the characters emigrate to Australia.

Wow I love you guys...and hate myself for not finding you earlier (admittedly put off coming here by some member from the old, 'The Forum'), but we would have got a lot further with all these keen observers who also aren't afraid to
post what they notice.

As we've mentioned,
much of what we 'see',
doesn't seem to make sense
until you look back at
the 'staged introductions'
of KEY subjects,
like MOVIES.

One of, possibly my favourite OZZIE movies along with KENNY is;

'The Magician'
2005
http://www.abc.net.au/atthemovies/img/2005/ep58/themagician_01_320x180.jpg
Following the dealings of a Melbourne-based hitman Ray
as seen through the eyes of his ex-neighbour and friend
Max, an Italian film student.
Max and his camera witness Ray's work life as
it unfolds from day to day,
giving an insight
into a world we rarely see,
and at the same time developing an unusual friendship with his subject.

(sorry, but there's too much to explain here, as to why a Christian Pacifist
would love a movie about a Hit-Man, but that's just it, it ISN'T. It's just the 'smoke screen' of 'magicians' to keep the 'profane' from the message)

Followed the next year by another OZZIE connected movie,
this time about TWIN MAGICIANS;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Prestige_poster.jpg

Directed by Christopher Nolan

Written by Novel: Christopher Priest

Screenplay: Jonathan Nolan & Christopher Nolan


Starring Hugh Jackman
Christian Bale
Michael Caine
Scarlett Johansson
David Bowie

Music by David Julyan

Cinematography Wally Pfister

Editing by Lee Smith

Distributed by Flag of the United States Touchstone Pictures
Flag of World Warner Bros.

Release date(s)

Flag of the United States
October 20, 2006

Flag of the United Kingdom
November 10, 2006

Running time 130 min.
Language English

Budget $40 million

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/ThePrestigePic1.jpg
David Bowie as Tesla

And what was that about a STOCK CRASH
connected to TWINS and MAGICIANS....

BBC
Day in pictures

Brazilian stock traders in Sao Paolo,
22 October 2007
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44191000/jpg/_44191664_traders_afp.jpg
Brazilian traders are frantic in Sao Paolo
where share prices opened lower
following losses on global markets last week.

And just a week earlier, BRAZIL was touted as
one of the SAFE, BOOMING Markets!

[vera susa]

O.K. so remember that Terry Pratchett writes about
what's to come in the real world,
and his current book is "MAKING MONEY"
featuring the second appearance of 'MOIST von LIPWIG',
who in his debut, "GOING POSTAL"
REVIVED the DYING POSTAL SERVICE.

WELL.....black is white, up is down
and sometimes
things are just what they are.
It's up to us to learn 'the CODES'.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42351000/jpg/_42351517_promo_stamp6666.jpgNational treasure?
Finding out how these
outposts of Britain's
postal network tick
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6178827.stm

Monday, 22 October 2007, 23:22 GMT 00:22 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7057325.stm

Postal closures to be announced
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44192000/jpg/_44192100_postofficesignpa.jpg
Post 0ffice sign
About 2,500 post offices will close across the UK

A major programme of post office branch closures
is set to be announced in parts of Scotland.

Unions fear that up to 44 branches
could be earmarked for closure in west and central Scotland.

It is believed 23 branches could close in Greater Glasgow.
Long-term plans for post office provision in other parts of Scotland
are due to be announced later.

The plans are part of a wider restructuring
of post office services throughout the UK.

Main branches or Crown offices are likely to be unaffected by the closure programme, as are those identified as having a high commercial value.

The brunt of the cuts are expected to be borne by the rural network
and branches close to other post offices.

The UK Government announced proposals to reduce the number of
sub post offices in May and put forward a raft of modernisation plans
to reduce the company's £4m weekly losses.

It will see the closure of up to 2,500 branches across the UK.

-----------------

And no BIG picture for BBC Scotland today, but along with the above story, we have.....

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44167000/jpg/_44167237_weemanvulture2033002.jpg
Wee Man had perched on a pine tree near the rescue centre
(and the 'hidden caption:
Wee Man the vulture after his escape [Pic: Press and Journal]

Wee Man the vulture returns home
Monday, 22 October 2007, 10:05 GMT 11:05 UK

An African vulture who escaped from a bird rescue centre
in Aberdeenshire has finally been recaptured.

Wee Man the white backed vulture had been on the loose
since flying off from the
2 Wit 2 Woo
sanctuary near Huntly two weeks ago.

He had perched 30ft up a nearby pine tree
and refused to be tempted down
before vanishing completely on Tuesday.

But the vulture, who has an eight-foot wingspan,
flew back into the centre at the weekend to look for food.
cont. at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/7056042.stm

So maybe the other Big Pictures around the UK will help....

WALES: no caption,
just GOLD with a BLACK CUP and a STING...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1192883533/img/1.jpg

ENGLAND: well I know tintin can 'read this one' even without the caption;

Actor Christian Slater is dwarfed
by a statue of the Miami Dolphins'
Jason Taylor in Trafalgar Square,
promoting Sunday's NFL match
with the New York Giants at Wembley.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/africa_enl_1193050170/img/1.jpg

Ah, but N IRELAND:
it's telling us in pictures and DIRECT WORDS;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1192726757/img/1.jpg
Migration by Jeremy Lund is one of the pieces on display at Belfast Print Workshop & Gallery's Transpose exhibition. He described his mixed media prints as a point of convergence or division with what is material/immaterial, or seen/unseen.

[vera susa]

Ah, but just to tie up that thought stream, when clicking on
Also in the news...after that "POSTAGE STAMP" story,
we're brought to this at the top:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41123000/jpg/_41123912_monalisa_203ind.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/also_in_the_news/default.stm

Now where did I see that image before....

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060758279.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Funny to, because with a typo of leaving off The LAST "T",
I discover this other cover for, The Art of Terry Pratchett;

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/x1/x6839.jpg

along with the following...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0441008615.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/rembrandt/1640/night-watch/rembrandt.night-watch.jpg
"Night Watch"

http://www.britposters.com/images/warlords%20of%20atlantis%20320x240.jpg

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/0060890312.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V65724211_.jpg
(featuring, "WEE FREE MEN")

http://i22.tinypic.com/a9oc2r.jpg

http://www.colinsmythe.co.uk/images/unseencutout.jpg

So by "OMITTING the LAST "T", we got this interesting 'picture story' on the first page, that "JUST HAPPENS TO" include KEY WORDS in today's BBC NEWS
SCOTLAND....and now after putting my Emerald Elephant back on the Anvil,
in front of the Persian Treasure Box, I'm off to finish that book, "MAKING MONEY".

[vera susa]

One more thing that caught my eye:

On Bbc news here they are pushing the global warming agenda as the reason for these fires. They had some guy on who said that fires have always gone on there but they are getting worse each year.

BLAME THE GREENIES, IT'S THEIR FAULT!
Oh, and by "GREENIES" I mean,
members of the secular,
ORANGE ORDER.

And, it IS DELIBERATE!

Now for some insane reason Australian Trees, DESIGNED to burn,
got popular there because they don't need much water,
then combine that with "water saving" measures that have
even more "dry climate gardens" grown and minimal watering,
along with, restrictions on clearing bushland (more Greenie BS),
and the LONG KNOWN OF Santa Ana Winds blowing embers,
and yep, you end up with the same disasters we had here last year.

Doesn't matter that we're onto the plot and Farmers protest,
'NO MORE "FLAMING" NATIONAL PARKS', beg for our water STORES
to be RELEASED along the old flows, beg to clear DRY fuel build ups
and DEAD trees (that the Greenies won't allow because a possum may
want to live there), no "They" need to convince the city folk of their
"worst drought ever" LIE, so they can TAX the live out them through
water charges, etc, and eventually get around to having folk DEMAND
that "green energy, water saving"???
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT...
the First of those ABOMINATIONS
that CAUSE DESOLATION, that
will be built on this GLORIOUS Land.

For those who don't know Holy Scripture,
that's the last WARNING SIGN.

Funny how the Greenies forget to mention how many GENERATIONS of
wild critters are lost, after these fires THEY CAUSE, OFTEN, YES DELIBERATELY go out and LIGHT...and all the while, the RICH and
CONNECTED are buying up this BEST of our land to sell to the Migrating Europeans, who then clean it up and plant lots of FIRE RESISTANT
EUROPEAN TREES!

[klinker]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

DAY IN PICTURES
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7056351.stm
Monday, 22 October 2007, 17:10 GMT 18:10 UK

Right, 10 images today so I won't post them all but it is
worth going to the link to 'read the story'.

Oh, and you don't get to see the TOP captions,
unless you copy from the last image
to the 'Day In Pictures' title.

But the first image was like a slap in the face.
Now what "GOOD SHEPHERD" would lead anyone,
HERE....

An Afghan shepherd on the outskirts of Kabul,
Afghanistan, 22 October 2007
(the DATE is missing from the "PUBLIC" caption)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44191000/jpg/_44191667_afghanshepherd_ap.jpg

A shepherd tends his flock on the outskirts of Kabul, Afghanistan.

When there is this
GLORIOUS GREAT SOUTHERN LAND,
to raise INNOCENT LAMBS on....
http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/O.102%20&%20W.9%202004%20LMB.JPG
VICTORIAN SOUTH SUFFOLK SOCIETY, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/O.102%2520%26%2520W.9%25202004%2520LMB.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.victoriansouthsuffolksociety.com/breeddescriptionstandard.htm&h=301&w=400&sz=124&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=SVeV6lTwyvhBtM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsheep%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26svnum%3D10% 26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
http://www.aqs.net.au/sheep/3sheep.jpg
Superfine Saxon Merino, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aqs.net.au/sheep/3sheep.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aqs.net.au/industry%2520news.html&h=577&w=480&sz=19&hl=en&start=53&um=1&tbnid=67S34QGgWiUE0M:&tbnh=134&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsheep%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26start%3D40% 26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26clie nt%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
http://www.dohne.com/images/dohne-sheep.jpg
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dohne.com/images/dohne-sheep.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dohne.com/&h=410&w=650&sz=39&hl=en&start=19&um=1&tbnid=JP-o1qvXM04XsM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmerino%2Bstud%2Bvictoria%26svnum%3D10 %26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

What, you "BELIEVED" that OZ was
a "DANGEROUS", "UNLIVABLE",
"WATERLESS" DESERT LAND,
that's "Over" populated
with ONLY 21 million people?

Don't you know WHY "They" DECEIVED us
into "believing" that COW MANURE!

Have another look at that top image
of what "They" call
The GLORIOUS PROMISED LAND....
that "They" also
DECEIVE the WORLD
into SLAUGHTER BILLIONS over.

Well I suppose I should include the other image
to do with SHEEP. The "COLOUR" of the land that
MERINO'S came from; The Land of the BLOODY
CATHOLIC INQUISITION, SPANISH PINK;

US First Lady Laura Bush (centre)
sits next to breast cancer survivors
at Sheikh Khalifa Medical Centre in Abu Dhabi

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190722_416_2abudhabi_afp.jpg

US First Lady Laura Bush joins breast cancer survivors at the
Pink Majlis
in Abu Dhabi as part of a week-long tour of the Middle East
to raise awareness of breast cancer.

Oh, and it's the 8th image!

And remember, that God also told us his faithful may be left alive
though thousands fall all around, but even if you die the first death,
that is only into 'sleep' until we're ALL Resurrected to face our 'Final Accounting', and those still unrepentant WILL suffer the second,
PERMANENT death.

When I saw Bush female in this pic yesterday and what I saw as the colour purple I thought of genocide. :(

[2013]

All good stuff ill get back to this later ,just a quick post when is was in a freinds house the other day they had eastenderson and pat butcher was babysitting somekids? anyway she ended up telling them the story of wizard of oz instead of watching the video , there was some murder kidnap plot going on ? one for you lottie did you watch .Any significance BBC programming again ! Glad you picked up onthe prestige there has abeen a spate of magician movies lately :D

[lottie]

All good stuff ill get back to this later ,just a quick post when is was in a freinds house the other day they had eastenderson and pat butcher was babysitting somekids? anyway she ended up telling them the story of wizard of oz instead of watching the video , there was some murder kidnap plot going on ? one for you lottie did you watch .Any significance BBC programming again ! Glad you picked up onthe prestige there has abeen a spate of magician movies lately :D

LOL!! you know me too well 2013!! Yes i saw it- i noticed its significance....The storyline at the time was about Ian Beales estranged son who had been causing awful havoc and sending death threats in the name of Ians dead wife Cindy to confuse and torture him....i thought it symbolised that Ian Beale had been receiving these death threats etc for weeks and after all it was just his Son doing it ....the little man behind the curtain!! Thats how i saw it anyway!! :rolleyes:

[emerald]

Another one that I consider it as a link: actress Geena Davis. Her birthday is 21.01.1956 which totally makes the "great" 7. She played the main role in "Commander in Chief", a series with a character never put in the lites of a show (as far as my knowledge goes), a female president of the US. The "president", in real life, is married (4th time) with Iranian doctor Reza Jarrahy (one of her ex hubbies was a Jew, actor Jeff Goldblum but I dont think it counts that much) and they have 3 kids: one daughter and, yes, 2 twin boys born on a May 6th. Unfortunately, "Commander in Chief" was cancelled - clap ur hands pls - on May 13 2006. Also it is worth mentioning 2 names from the series: Nathan Templeton (Templar connection) played by Donald Sutherland and another Iranian-American actor Anthony Azizi, a Gemini born who has.... twin boys (on May 18, this year).

[tintin]

Geezz folks, some great input here.
Don't know where to start so I will just plunge into that
DAVID COPPERFIELD MAGICIAN connection.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6361/lasvegasmgmgrandns8.jpg

On the last page you have seen that great post of Mcmenek1.
So we have MGM and David Copperfield

i have posted about David who let the Statue of LIBERTY
disappear in a famous act.

And after the statue was gone there was only one thing
to see. A HELICOPTER.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/HelicopterBenSmall.jpg

I think David Copperfield has done more stunts with Helicopters.
Wasn't that Niagara stunt also with a helicopter?

Anyway, but HELICOPTER BEN BERNANKE as the man in
charge in a money system that will be destroyed.
Now don't underestimate this money thing.
You worked all your life, saved money, you saved for the future
you are investing in the stock market, and suddenly you
see it's all gone.....

What you see is all you LIFE ENERGY VANISHING.
It was all wasted, all the hard work, all the worries, for nothing.

The boyz in control know exactly what that means.
It will cause HATE and FEAR and bitterness.

People want to BLAME their own mistakes (By believing the lies,
told by all the bankers) on others. As long as it's not THEM that
made those mistakes.

America is the land of HOLLOW pride.

But now back to MGM grand.
We have the Copperfield MGM Grand connection.
What is opposite the MGM Grand?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/StatueOfLiberty_NYNY_LasVegas.jpg

Now see all the symbolism. Las Vegas is completely fake.
It's a DESERT town with no resources whatsoever.
Developed by the MAFIA.

All CASINO's. Combined with all the WHORES that work there
to serve the BEAST system. Roulette with 36 numbers. 666.

The MGM Grand and KIRK KERKORIAN.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Kirk_Kerkorian.jpg

Kirk Kerkorian was the founder of MGM Grand.
He is from ARMENIAN descent. When I think of ARMENIA I have a few associations.

The ARMENIAN HOLOCOUST and MOUNT ARARAT. (Noach)
So a combination that tells you a bit about the future.

And Kirk Kerkorian has another interesting connection.

KIRK KERKORIAN AND
BOXERS FROM IRAN.

Kirk was himself a boxer in his youth.
But he became friends with the father of this guy.

http://drawger.com/tonka/images/Agassi.jpg

ANDRE KIRK AGASSI.
Named after KIRK KERKORIAN.

Andre was known for his HAIR. Like SAMSON.
Now he has no hair left anymore. What happened when
SAMSON lost his hair?
The father of Andre worked for Kerkorian and they
became friends, hence the Kirk.

Andre is now 37 years old. 1307. templar's year.
He owned a lockheed jetstar 731. Reverse that and you
get 137.

But here's that IRAN BOXING link.

ANDRE's FATHER was a
BOXER for IRAN.

Have posted about the BOXING links to IRAN.
There are quite a few. Just yesterday I saw IRAN CASTILLO
in a BOXING pose on wiki.

And now to the FINACIAL CRASH links.
Next week will be the 43rd week of the year. It's the week where
AHMADINEJAD was born. He was born 28 october.
That's the 301st day of the year. 31 or 13.
Divide 301 by 7 and you get 43.

Bush 43.

http://www.co.clark.nv.us/fire/gif/mgm1.jpg

THE GREAT MGM
GRAND HOTEL FIRE.

Now this is not a good OMEN folks.
And look at certain facts.
There were 87 deaths in total. 84 initially and 3 afterwards.

So 87 deaths in the BIGGEST hotel in the world.

BIGGEST? Now we come to the BIGGEST stock market collapse
in history. That was in 1987.

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_76/wall.gif

The biggest CRASH in history.
And that same morning two
US warships shelled an
IRANIAN OIL platform in the
PERSIAN GULF.

So a clear IRAN/STOCK market crash connection
And linked to the MGM grand.

But look at this little subtle connection.
So what does wiki tell us about that fire?

THE FIRE STARTED at
7.10 in the morning. That's
exactly 430 minutes
into the day.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/03/19/sports/ncaabasketball/bush533.jpg

CRASHES, FIRES, IRAN, BOXERS, BUSH,
it's all connected....

But now back to that post grom Mcmenek 1.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7913/800pxklccnightur4.jpg

DESIGNED BY CESAR
PELLI Who was a dean
at YALE.

The PETRONAS TWIN towers. PETROLEUM.
OIL, BUSH. and 88 floors. (8 the number of the NIGHT
and the great flood, like the PIANO with it's 88 keys.)

This 88 building is a GIANT KEY.

So that brings us to the KEY man in the WHITE HOUSE.

Remember what he said recently.
It was something so ridiculous that there must
be a MESSAGE in it.

SADDAM KILLED ALL
THE MANDELAS.

I mean folks, really, this is even for Bush standards a bit
too much.

http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/nevada/las-vegas/images/s/mandalay-bay-vegas.jpg

MANDALAY, part of MGM
GRAND. Killed all the
Mandelas?

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GET UP AND EAT MUCH FLESH...

EAT THE WHOLE WORLD!

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5715772,00.jpg
Resilient ...
Knut, the world's most famous polar bear, has come a long way since being rejected by his mum - he's nearly a year old, weighs about 100kg and has attracted a million visitors to Berlin Zoo.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5715728,00.jpg
Healthy ...
but he also eats fish, meats, fruits and vegetables

The "LEAD" story in this news page;
http://www.news.com.au/0,,vic,00.html

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Young, successful, rich and dead
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5715532,00.jpg
JOHN Ilhan,
founder of Crazy John's mobile phone company,
has died at just 42,
robbing him of the chance to enjoy the fruits
of a lifetime of hard work.

This to is a 'curious' story of a "YOUNG TURK"
(literally, came here with his parents when he was aged 3),
odd to that it happened the morning after
a Commercial TV station ran a feature on him;
and I'd like to share more but it wouldn't be safe for me,
so hoping someone else can nut out of the main story,
what I have to bite my tongue on....


Crazy John's owner John Ilhan dead at 42

October 23, 2007 12:43pm

http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,22634358-462,00.html

Crazy John dies
Video > (at above link)
MOBILE phone king John Ilhan has died of
a suspected heart attack at 42..
10/2007 Footage: Sky News

............The telecommunications king,
whose company turned over more than $175 million last year,
reportedly died while on a morning walk
in the Melbourne suburb of Brighton.

Ambulance officers could not revive him.

His company would not say
whether Mr Ilhan died of a heart attack....

Wealth never comes
“without hard work, and young entrepreneurs
make extraordinary sacrifices
when their peers are out enjoying their youth,”
reported a Smart Company feature on Ilhan
and other young rich entrepreneurs this month.

“Queensland property developers Chris and Virginia Anderson,
who are worth more than $60 million …
once worked 90 days straight
over Christmas,” the report said.

Mr Ilhan is one of several leading figures in Australian business
who have died before their time.

Two years ago Gold Coast businessman
Kevin "Big Kev" McQuay
died from a heart attack, aged 56.

“It all happened quickly,
it all happened within a couple of hours,”
his wife Michelle said at the time.

Australia’s first billionaire Robert Holmes a Court,
father of South-Sydney Football Club
(co-owner with RUSSEL CROWE)
Peter Holmes a Court,
died suddenly from a heart attack in 1990, aged 53.

His flagship company, Bell Group,
was a well-known corporate raider in the 1980s,
and Mr Holmes a Court was estimated to be worth
around $2 billion
prior to the 1987 stock market crash.

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Flying Dutchman
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5715686,00.jpg
Dutch magician Ramana
is freaking out Americans
by levitating in Times Square
and outside the White House »
video and full story;
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22634351-2,00.html

Man levitates outside the White House

By staff writers

October 23, 2007 12:39pm

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Another one that I consider it as a link: actress Geena Davis. Her birthday is 21.01.1956 which totally makes the "great" 7. She played the main role in "Commander in Chief", a series with a character never put in the lites of a show (as far as my knowledge goes), a female president of the US. The "president", in real life, is married (4th time) with Iranian doctor Reza Jarrahy (one of her ex hubbies was a Jew, actor Jeff Goldblum but I dont think it counts that much) and they have 3 kids: one daughter and, yes, 2 twin boys born on a May 6th. Unfortunately, "Commander in Chief" was cancelled - clap ur hands pls - on May 13 2006. Also it is worth mentioning 2 names from the series: Nathan Templeton (Templar connection) played by Donald Sutherland and another Iranian-American actor Anthony Azizi, a Gemini born who has.... twin boys (on May 18, this year).

This looks promising to me.
Geena Davis.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Geena_Davis_(1989).jpg/394px-Geena_Davis_(1989).jpg

From WIKI.
What is she holding in her hand? an Oscar.
And her finger points to that hand.

She's pointing at GOLD.
And that litle handbag of hers is also Gold.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/7f/20070102232719!Geena_Davis_and_Jeff_Goldblum_1990. jpg

Briefly married to
jeff GOLDBLUM. Another
GOLD connection.

As GOLD is the ASSET that will shine when the PAPER-SYSTEM
will collapse.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Sydney_Pollack.jpg

Sidney "eyes wite shut"
Pollack spotted her.

Can post a few pages about that movie as well.
Anyway, so Geena Davis and IRAN and TWINS.

A female president of the USA and she is a MAC.
the MAC connection. MacCann. MacDonald.

She is called MAC in the series and is
from CONNECTICUT. Coonect the dots.
Bush from YALE connecticut.

In the series WARREN KEATON is her VICE-PRESIDENT.
Yesterday in the Madeleine thread I have posted about BUSTER
KEATON. Nicknamed the GREAT STONE FACE.

http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/Mountrushmore.jpg

The GREAT STONE FACES of Mount Rushmore.
But BUSTER KEATON was named after a certain mountain that
had a "natural" face.
That great STONE FACE collapsed on 3 may 2003.
Just 9 days before Maddie was born.

SO WARREN KEATON.
WAR and KEYS.
So who is the actor that plays this WAR KEY?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/WarrenKeaton.jpg

Peter COYOTE

So a BEAST as a Vice President.
His real name is RICHMILL PINCHUS BEN MOSHA COHON.
Ok, can understand you want to have a more easy name.

But why ffs does someone wants to name himself COYOTE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Canis_latrans.jpg

I mean, they are not the most popular animals in America.
They are the most serious predators of livestock in western USA.

So very good PREDATORS.
A vice president and a president from CONNECTICUT.

CHENEY and BUSH.

COYOTES are NIGHT HUNTERS.

And NATHAN TEMPLETON.
Played by DONALD Sutherland.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Donald-Sutherland.jpg

Sutherland is a MACDONALD.
Donald McNichol Sutherland.

The BIG MAC. The YELLOW M.

In the series President MacKenzie SPENCER Allen.
The DIANA connection. Sidney Pollack was born same date as DIANA.
And it's WARREN FITZGERALD CLINTON.

John FITZGERALD Kennedy. William FITZGERALD Clinton.
But back to that STONE FACE connection.
MacKenzie Allen succeeded TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

Roosevelt is one of the faces in Mount Rushmore, near KEYSTONE.
Cliton from LITTLE ROCK. It's STONES everywhere.
But the GREAT STONE face COLLAPSES into dust...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Commander_logo.jpg

Now isn't this a strange picture of a PRESIDENT?
Looks more like a SHADOW of a president.
Some sort of GHOST.
And is it just me or do I see
a little AAA in the back....

Prince Willem alexander has TRIPE A. Children.
A little reference to the TRIPLE A Death Squad in ARGENTINA.
The country where his wife, Princess Maxima comes from.

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uummm...SET IN STONE,
it really does come up TOO often
for me to believe that's the case....

McCanns 'left kids alone for 3 hours a night'

October 23, 2007 07:01pm
Article from: AAP
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22636610-2,00.html


Gerry McCann used to check on Madeleine
and her younger brother and sister every 20 minutes
while the rest of the group ate together for four nights,
he told The Sun newspaper.


The only time Kate McCann
left to check on the children
was the night of May 3,
when the four-year-old toddler went missing.


"The routine was set in stone.
If somebody had been watching
they would have been able to choose
the right moment to take the child."


Mr Baptista said
the McCanns and their friends
drank eight to 10 bottles of wine
the night Madeleine vanished.

He said he remembered Kate McCann
went to check on the children that night,
the only time he saw her do so.

"It had been a normal night. Then it became madness," he said.



The whole world is going through a
MAJOR POWER RE-STRUCTURE,
which means 'loyalties', EVEN TO "BLOOD"
can NO LONGER BE TRUSTED...

...sounds to me that the likes of
ORICA (OZZIE EXPLOSIVES Company)
and the "Right" URANIUM MINES
(GERMANS JUST BOUGHT a HUNK
of OZZIE URANIUM MINES)
are a smart place to put money...
if it's money you feel the need to keep,
might pay to give it a 'holiday' from GOLD...

...just be smart about WHO'S
"baking" the YELLOWCAKE you buy.

[vera susa]

Jailed Glitter misses out on amnesty

VIETNAMESE President Nguyen Minh Triet
has given amnesty to more than 8000 prisoners
but British pop singer Gary Glitter,
jailed for child molestation,
was not on the list, officials said today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22636495-23109,00.html

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william of Orange .
The eastenders wizard of oz story was spoken not watched on video the character had to tell the story to them .The character pat butcher is played by Pam St clements http://www.rhymes.org.uk/oranges_and_lemons.htm
Nursery Rhyme & History

The origin of the words to "Oranges and lemons" - strange & sinister!
The exact date of origin is unknown but there was a Square Dance called 'Oranges and Lemons' dating back to 1665, unfortunately there are no known record of the lyrics which accompanied the dance but is likely that the words were similar to that of the nursery rhyme. The words to "Oranges and lemons" have been much loved by numerous generations of children. The neighbourhood names relate to some of the many churches of London and the tune that accompanies the lyrics emulates the sound of the ringing of the individual church bells.
The Tyburn Gallows
The words of the nursery rhyme are chanted by children as they play the game of 'Oranges and lemons' the end of which culminates in a child being caught between the joined arms of two others, emulating the act of chopping off their head! The reason for the sinister last three lines of the lyrics of "Oranges and lemons" are easily explained, they were added to the original rhyme, probably by children!
This addition dates to some time before 1783 when the infamous public execution gallows (the Tyburn-tree) was moved from Tyburn-gate (Marble Arch) to Newgate, a notorious prison for both criminals and debtors hence "When will you pay me"?". This move was necessary to reduce problems caused by the crowds, often exceeding 100,000, gathered along the execution procession route. This stretched along a three mile route from Newgate Prison to Tyburn and around the Tyburn tree itself.
Newgate Prison
The 'Bells of Old Bailey', or more accurately the tenor bell of St Sepulchre, had been utilised prior to 1783 to time the executions but after the gallows had been moved, Newgate prison (now the site of the Old Bailey) obtained its own bell. As the words to the poem "Oranges and lemons" indicate the unfortunate victim would await execution on 'Death Row' and would be informed by the Bellman of St. Sepulchre by candle light 'here comes the candle to light you to bed', at midnight outside their cell , the Sunday night prior to their imminent fate, by the ringing of the 'Execution Bell' (a large hand bell) and the recitation of the following :

All you that in the condemned hole do lie,
Prepare you for tomorrow you shall die;
Watch all and pray: the hour is drawing near
That you before the Almighty must appear;
Examine well yourselves in time repent,
That you may not to eternal flames be sent.
And when St. Sepulchre's Bell in the morning tolls
The Lord above have mercy on your soul.

The executions commenced at nine o'clock Monday morning following the first toll of the tenor bell. Who would have thought that "Oranges and lemons" a childrens rhyme could have such a sinister historical connotation?




Picture of Execution Procession at Tyburn, London

Origin of the saying "On the Wagon" - meaning a person has stopped drinking alcohol! Prisoners were transported to Tyburn Gallows on a wagon and were allowed one last drink in a pub on the way to their execution. If offered a second drink by a sympathiser the guard would reply, "No, they're going on the Wagon!"



Oranges and Lemons Poem


"Oranges and lemons" say the Bells of St. Clement's
"You owe me five farthings" say the Bells of St. Martin's
"When will you pay me?" say the Bells of Old Bailey
"When I grow rich" say the Bells of Shoreditch
"When will that be?" say the Bells of Stepney
"I do not know" say the Great Bells of Bow
"Here comes a Candle to light you to Bed
Here comes a Chopper to Chop off your Head
Chip chop chip chop - the Last Man's Dead."

Church-St. Clements Location-Clements Lane and King William Street, Eastcheap -Citrus Fruit unloaded at the nearby wharves
The Bells of St Clements
St Clements is a small church situated in St. Clements Lane, Eastcheap. There have been three Churches on the site starting with the first in the 11th Century when the church is mentioned in a confirmation of grants to Westminster Abbey in 1067. The original old Church was rebuilt in the 15th Century. The second church was destroyed in 1666 during the Great Fire of London The existing church was rebuilt in 1687 by Sir Christopher Wren (the great architect of St Paul's Cathedral). The "Oranges and lemons" refer to the citrus fruits unloaded at the nearby wharves.
:D

[tintin]

Jailed Glitter misses out on amnesty

VIETNAMESE President Nguyen Minh Triet
has given amnesty to more than 8000 prisoners
but British pop singer Gary Glitter,
jailed for child molestation,
was not on the list, officials said today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22636495-23109,00.html

Glitter and glamour.
We are about to lose BOTH of them.
The whole HOLLYWOOD celeb GLITTER and GLAMOUR culture
will vanish as people become so poor that it won't be "COOL" to
have millions and drive in eccentric cars.

http://www.denslow.com/graphics/albums/GaryGlitter_GreatestHits.jpg


And there's another little message in Gary Glitter.
He's GG. that's 77. The 7 O'Clock eye, London bombings 777.

GARY GLITTER. GARY McCANN. Children.

http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/treasure/images/truman_portrait_masonic_regalia.jpg

33rd degree FREEMASON TRUMAN
ORDERED the First Atomic BOMB.

GARY GLITTER and Harry
TRUMAN are born the same
date. 8 may.

5 days after Maddie dissapeared.

But now to that first Atom Bomb.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Little_boy.jpg

"LITTLE BOY."
The first atom bomb.

Little boy, little girl. The SATANIC pedophile connection.

And remember, the guy in the white house is still
DADDY's LITTLE boy. George Bush Sr...

and when did they drop that first Atom bomb?

6 August.

http://www.feyenoord-wallpapers.nl/images/persie1024x768.jpg

THIS PERSIAN WAS
BORN 6 August. HIROSHIMA day.

And now he gives a loud and clear warning.

GET THE HELL OUT
OF THE PERSIAN GULF!!

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m2/oct2006/3/4/0802379F-9121-0F5A-29BEFBF78DBF9769.jpg

FLY FROM THE
EMIRATES!!

http://www.mirandasbeach.com/gunners.gif

The Gunners.....
And notice the YELLOW/BLACK out fit.
The Nuclear colors..

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uummm...SET IN STONE,
it really does come up TOO often
for me to believe that's the case....




The whole world is going through a
MAJOR POWER RE-STRUCTURE,
which means 'loyalties', EVEN TO "BLOOD"
can NO LONGER BE TRUSTED...

...sounds to me that the likes of
ORICA (OZZIE EXPLOSIVES Company)
and the "Right" URANIUM MINES
(GERMANS JUST BOUGHT a HUNK
of OZZIE URANIUM MINES)
are a smart place to put money...
if it's money you feel the need to keep,
might pay to give it a 'holiday' from GOLD...

...just be smart about WHO'S
"baking" the YELLOWCAKE you buy.


Ha, then after a nap, I get up to find
the BBC saying much the same thing.....

23 October 2007, 13:46 GMT 14:46 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7058366.stm

German church rolled to new home
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/europe_enl_1193145220/img/1.jpg
A rolling platform will carry the church to its new home

An entire stone church
is being lifted and rolled
to another location,
12km (7.5 miles) away from its original home
in the German village of Heuersdorf.

The 660-tonne church,
built 750 years ago,
is being moved so that
coal deposits beneath it can be mined.

The church has been lifted from its foundations
and lowered onto a rolling wooden base
that is expected to reach the nearby village of Borna next week.

Heuersdorf's residents are also being relocated
to make way for the mine.

The village's 59 inhabitants earlier lost a legal battle
to prevent the Mibrag company from building its mine.

The firm agreed to move the church in order to secure the right to mine under the village, near the city of Leipzig in what used to be East Germany.

A spokeswoman for Mibrag told AFP news agency
the church is expected
to arrive at its new home
on 31 October.

The cost for the project is estimated to be
3m euros ($4.2m; £2m).

Heuersdorf was built atop large deposits of lignite,
a type of brown coal used to fuel power plants.

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Oh boy, if we were doing this in a pool,
as a team
we'd be up for Olympic GOLD,
for Synchronized Swimming
but we aren't,
we're just looking at what there is to see,
in our everyday, INDIVIDUAL, REAL World...

Right so I did get around to finishing....

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n44/n220511.jpg

and this GOLDEN SUITED character first appeared in....

http://www.valdyas.org/~boud/images/Covers/postal.jpg

Remind you of anyone? Like maybe....

http://www.denslow.com/graphics/albums/GaryGlitter_GreatestHits.jpg

33rd degree FREEMASON TRUMAN
ORDERED the First Atomic BOMB.

GARY GLITTER and Harry
TRUMAN are born the same
date. 8 may.

http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/treasure/images/truman_portrait_masonic_regalia.jpg

Now don't forget that
ATOMIC BOMBED JAPAN,
were GERMANY'S ALLIES at the time

and GERMANY have recently 'Officially' bought
a Great Hunk of OZ URANIUM MINES
(that they 'in effect' already owned)

and the 'spoiler' for "MAKING MONEY":
MOIST von LIPWIG DOES AWAY WITH
THE GOLD STANDARD...

see, they MINE out a FORCE
(4000 Ancient 'GOLEMS' of
the BEST QUALITY)
that CAN DESTROY the WORLD,
that the Golden Suited man
decides to use as an ENERGY Source...

and THAT ENERGY SOURCE becomes
THE NEW STANDARD.

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Oh, and for those who aren't familiar with our old threads;

In BOTH WORLD WARS,
the FIRST SHOTS by
The BRITISH EMPIRE,
were fired from
AUSTRALIA!??

And these SYMBOLICALLY
VERY IMPORTANT acts,
were by no means the only
"ODD" roles OZ played in these
KEY WARS....

Like ....
http://www.filmaust.com.au/primeministers/PMs_title.jpg
http://www.filmaust.com.au/primeministers/

Episode 4:
Stanley Melbourne Bruce's Cigarette Case

Until the day he died, Stanley Melbourne Bruce
kept two photographs in his study—
one of his wife and one of
Turkish President Mustafa Kemal Atatürk,
the founder of the modern Turkish state.

As young men they were enemies at Gallipoli,
but during the post-war years of international reconstruction,
they forged a mutual admiration
as passionate advocates of secularism.
After the League of Nations
Montreux conference in 1936,
Atatürk presented Bruce
with a gold cigarette case,
which he treasured for the rest of his life.

http://www.filmaust.com.au/primeministers/images/PMs_04.jpg
Warren with Bruce's case

Presenter Warren Brown holding Stanley Bruce’s gold cigarette case. On location at the National Archives of Australia in Canberra.
Photograph by Sam Cooper, National Archives of Australia.
© National Archives of Australia.

http://www.filmaust.com.au/primeministers/images/PMs_04a.jpg
Portrait of Stanley Melbourne Bruce.
Photo courtesy of the National Library of Australia

But what they don't mention here,
is that they were also friends
BEFORE GALLIPOLI.
and that Ciggy Case,
was decorated with a VERY OCCULT
DOUBLE INTERTWINED STAR .

Oh, and remember that THE POPE
GATHERS THE YOUTH in OZ in 2008....

http://a7.vox.com/6a00c2251d78d8f21900cd972a973f4cd5-500pi

[pri01]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489003&in_page_id=1770

This story appeared in most of the major tabloids in UK today and wondered if I am learning about seeing something else in the news.
I don't know if I am right but here goes. Look at the t-shirt on this child and what it says.Look at the very ordinary cone and how it sits gently on his head. In my veiw, for this cone to be stuck so tight as to need 6 fire crew to remove it, it would have to had been superglued on. Is this something to do with California fires? Are they treating us like dunces, showing someone in a dunce shaped cap and making fun of us with the words on the t-shirt. It's a little odd to me.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/23/charlie-3-stuck-in-wizard-hat-89520-19993366/

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489003&in_page_id=1770

This story appeared in most of the major tabloids in UK today and wondered if I am learning about seeing something else in the news.
I don't know if I am right but here goes. Look at the t-shirt on this child and what it says.Look at the very ordinary cone and how it sits gently on his head. In my veiw, for this cone to be stuck so tight as to need 6 fire crew to remove it, it would have to had been superglued on. Is this something to do with California fires? Are they treating us like dunces, showing someone in a dunce shaped cap and making fun of us with the words on the t-shirt. It's a little odd to me.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/23/charlie-3-stuck-in-wizard-hat-89520-19993366/

Oh Boy! I'd say! Great catch, pri01!!!

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m3/oct2007/1/5/CC7FFF4F-B02A-9725-5E558091E9010F9E.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/cthomasmumDM2210_468x405.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_03/2CharliePottySWNS_468x576.jpg

And it seems you've been called into the "SYNCHRO" Team,
with something EVEN BIGGER that the California Fires!

Now that last image in the post above,
is a Diary for the Year The POPE GATHERS THE YOUTH
in "The Land of OZ",
and what is "Harry Potter"
but PRATCHETT'S DISC-WORLD, PLAGIARIZED
FOR KIDS!

And who does it feature but, "THE SWEEPER",
who's BONSAI that he carries with him,
is SO SPECIAL it includes a WORKING VOLCANO.

"NO ONE NOTICES THE SWEEPER",
which of course, makes him
SUPREMELY POWERFUL....

Well, I've been BEGGING folk in 'conspiracy land',
to RESEARCH into "The MAN From OZ", who
CAUSED RATZINGER to BE ELECTED POPE,
the same "MAN From OZ" who's ARRANGED this
GATHERING of The YOUTH in OZ;
CARDINAL GEORGE PELL, from
The SOVEREIGN CITY of The GOLDEN TRIANGLE,
with 7 HILLS, Ballarat Victoria,
but like "The Sweeper" 'even' (ESPECIALLY)
ERIC JOH PHELPS/CRAIG OXLEY
would NOT TOUCH THIS MAN with a Barge Poll!!!

And go back a few pages and ask yourself why,
NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN WHY HE "VANISHED"
from the list of CARDINAL ELECTORS!

"STOP, LOOK and LISTEN",
it's all a "CIRCUS" DISTRACTING folk
from questioning how those who are such
a DOUBTING "THOMAS" could be
anyone's CHRISTIAN Leader....
and What Are "THEY" are REALLY LEADING US TO....

[tintin]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489003&in_page_id=1770

This story appeared in most of the major tabloids in UK today and wondered if I am learning about seeing something else in the news.
I don't know if I am right but here goes. Look at the t-shirt on this child and what it says.Look at the very ordinary cone and how it sits gently on his head. In my veiw, for this cone to be stuck so tight as to need 6 fire crew to remove it, it would have to had been superglued on. Is this something to do with California fires? Are they treating us like dunces, showing someone in a dunce shaped cap and making fun of us with the words on the t-shirt. It's a little odd to me.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/23/charlie-3-stuck-in-wizard-hat-89520-19993366/


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/cthomasmumDM2210a_468x397.jpg

In general you can say that "The more SILLY the story
the more you have tro pay attention."

It's like when GEORGE Bush tells us that SADDAM KILLED
ALL THE MANDELAS.

Why is this story suddenly prominent?
i am sure there's more to it.
The Dutch prime minister HARRY POTTER and no one
takes this guy serious. Always watch out for powerfull
people that look harmless but aren't.

I see three different T shirts.
Sisters are EMILY (Amelie) and ISABELLA. Father MARTIN.
And he is CHARLIE. (like Charlemagne.)

Just look at the huge amount of messages in the
madeleine case.
Children are often just a smokescreen. Because they are
just "children"; it's only fun.

Ha, but no more important thing than BRAINWASHING children.
Once you've done that decently it's damn hard to "UNBRAINWASH" it.

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m3/oct2007/1/5/CC7FFF4F-B02A-9725-5E558091E9010F9E.jpg

Especially this text on the shirt.

STOP! LOOK & listen (to me!).

Reminds me of that other massage from MADELEINE.
look me in the Eyes.

Now see that the O's in the word "LOOK" are EYES.

And 6 firefighters? Isn't that an insult to all of us?
What has that supposed to mean.
Are they supposed to use BRUTE force?
So why 6 firefighters?

[weregr8]

Hello everyone,

I've been an Icke for over 6 years now, read most all of his books but I've only been at this site for a couple of weeks and this is my first post EVER!!! Let's see if if I've been paying attention.

Last night on "Dancing with the Stars" I'm sure you all know by now Marie Osmond fainted (first couple to dance). First thing she said when she came to was "oh crap". Fast forward to 7th couple to dance Mel and Maks (Maksim). They show this couple practicing last week and Mel gets a cold, and her partner Maks says his immune system is low so he proceeds to practice with a towel around his mouth and nose. Very reminiscent of a gas mask, and after they dance the head judge Len Goodman says "look what we have M and M, fruity, sweet, delicious (don't know last time he had m&m's but fruity? not!). Judge Bruno said they were "like a fury" and after the judges comments the host remarked about how they did it with Mel still having the sniffles and Maks says "it's antibiotics", the host didn't understand so again Maks says "antibiotics" which the host then heard and said "antibiotics, hey whatever works". Not so sure antibiotics work on the sniffles anyway, but maybe on some thing else? There scores were 10-9-10, don't know if that means anything, actually don't know if any of it means anything, but it's been bugging me all day.

I know we are suppose to post were we get our information but I don't know how to do links yet, maybe someone could post that for me. I have the program on my TIVO so my quotes are perfect.

Please tell meif this means anything to anyone.

Thanks for being here.

[vera susa]

http://www.adoremus.org/NewABart/AdoremusTitle-1.jpg
VOX CLARA COMMITTEE
http://www.adoremus.org/NewABart/VoxClara0706.jpg
Pictured, standing from left:
Father Anthony Ward (Congregation for Divine Worship),
Bishop Philip Boyce, Archbishop Alfred Hughes, Monsignor James Moroney, Archbishop Terrence Prendergast, Archbishop Kelvin Felix,
Archbishop Peter K. Sarpong, Abbot Cuthbert Johnson,
Father Denis McManus.
Seated: Archbishop Oscar Lipscomb, Cardinal George Pell,
Archbishop Oswald Gracias, Cardinal Justin Rigali.

http://www.castlemoyle.com/shopping/images/biography/biog36296.jpg

Page 112
But the old man would not do so,
but slew his son,
And half the seed of Europe,
one by one.

So what's been in the 'NEWS' in OZ,
but EQUINE INFLUENZA,
that STRUCK RANDWICK RACECOURSE
where The POPE & WORLD'S YOUTH will GATHER,
AFTER they tried to GET MORE MONEY from ROME
for using it!

George Pell and racing -- the argument gets nasty
Thursday, 18 October 2007
http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20071018-George-Pell-and-racing-the-argument-gets-nasty.html
Jeff Wall writes:

Relations between the Catholic Church (and George Pell in particular)
and the Sydney racing community have been in freefall for months,
but yesterday they sunk to a new low, writes Jeff Wall.

http://www.khsnsw.org/images/topbanner5.jpg
http://www.khsnsw.org/welcome.html
The Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem,
of ancient origin,
reorganized and enriched in privileges by the Supreme Pontiffs
through historic, juridical and spiritual bonds,
is under the benign protection of the Holy See.


(oh, and we literally BLEW THE FUSE
the PC runs on,
TWICE,
while putting together this post)

[kallista]

Hello all. I'm new to this board so treat me gently. It seems I am barred from the unhived mind, I blame Tintin And Vera myself.
All that segregationalist stuff was making me sick anyway. I'll chip in when I can.

[vera susa]

Hey there wereGr8, and Gr8 to hear from you, after what you just made me stumble over.

So you got the bit tintin pointed out,
that when BUSH "DROPS A CLANGER",
it's intended. The "Clanger" 'masking' the CODE.

Well those "Clanger's" Dropped on DWTS...(he he, I read dimwits),
remind me of "SYMBOLS", and BOTH in BOTH context...
the CLANGER that makes a BELL Ring, and Musical SYMBOLS,
as well as CODED Language.

Anyway, to illustrate the point I googled images and just look at
the first full page for CLANGER;
http://images.google.com.au/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=clanger&btnG=Search+Images

LOTS of Spanish INQUISITION PINK

RATZ(INGERS)

http://www.freewebs.com/1969clangers/img/mthckn.jpg

Including one also found on a a page of images
for...TA DA....
CARDINAL GEORGE PELL!?!?

http://www.dawnmist.demon.co.uk/clanger06.jpg

AND...

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mly0822l.jpg

So, yeah, I'd say you are "SEEING" what "They" try to HIDE.

True, it is easy to find 'connections' that are just coincidence,
but when you get this sort of flow of CONTEXT, well, just laugh at
the idiots who call you and idiot.

[vera susa]

Hello all. I'm new to this board so treat me gently. It seems I am barred from the unhived mind, I blame Tintin And Vera myself.
All that segregationalist stuff was making me sick anyway. I'll chip in when I can.

Hey there kallista, and what did you do to be barred...politely explain
a FACT of biology or something...and is it like me, barred from so much as VIEWING ANY Page?

I just can't recall you ever being at all offensive, let alone 'worthy' of barring...
mind you, there, behaving as a WORTHY Human Being does seem to be a criteria
for 'banishment'.

Oh and BTW, does "that damn thread" (as Craig Oxley called what Cruise and I worked on) still exist, or was it deleted like the post of mine, WARNING ALL Members of the serious HACKING I got from his site and ASKING him to look into it?

[tintin]

Hello everyone,

I've been an Icke for over 6 years now, read most all of his books but I've only been at this site for a couple of weeks and this is my first post EVER!!! Let's see if if I've been paying attention.

Last night on "Dancing with the Stars" I'm sure you all know by now Marie Osmond fainted (first couple to dance). First thing she said when she came to was "oh crap". Fast forward to 7th couple to dance Mel and Maks (Maksim). They show this couple practicing last week and Mel gets a cold, and her partner Maks says his immune system is low so he proceeds to practice with a towel around his mouth and nose. Very reminiscent of a gas mask, and after they dance the head judge Len Goodman says "look what we have M and M, fruity, sweet, delicious (don't know last time he had m&m's but fruity? not!). Judge Bruno said they were "like a fury" and after the judges comments the host remarked about how they did it with Mel still having the sniffles and Maks says "it's antibiotics", the host didn't understand so again Maks says "antibiotics" which the host then heard and said "antibiotics, hey whatever works". Not so sure antibiotics work on the sniffles anyway, but maybe on some thing else? There scores were 10-9-10, don't know if that means anything, actually don't know if any of it means anything, but it's been bugging me all day.

I know we are suppose to post were we get our information but I don't know how to do links yet, maybe someone could post that for me. I have the program on my TIVO so my quotes are perfect.

Please tell meif this means anything to anyone.

Thanks for being here.

Everything is connected.
So we start with Marie Osmond.
Born 13 october.

Templars day.

We go to number 7 now. M and M.
i have been busyin the Madelaine thread and the M is very
important. Yhe YELLOW M and the M from macdonald.
The Madeine case is an announcement that we will have
a world war coming and after that CHAOS and finally
ORDER out of that chaos.

So when I see the name MAKSIM, I know I have to
look for PRINCESS MAXIMA connections.

MAKSIM Shmerkovskiy.
he's from ODESSA, Ukraine.

Here's the ORANGE CONNECTION.

http://www.orangerevolutionmovie.com/images/orange-revolution-poster.gif

The ORANGE ORDER.
The house of orange. the most powerful family in the World.

Alexander, the MEROVINGIAN KING, is born the 117th day of the year.
Maksim is born 17 january. 117.

So another little Orange connection.
Mel B. was married and has a child with a DUTCHMAN. Jimmy Gulzar.

OK. but Maksim from ODESSA.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n10/n50569.jpg

FREDERICK has some FORSIGHT.
It's FF or 66.

http://www.chasermerch.com/images/shell%20logo.jpg

The dutch royals "own" ROYAL DUTCH SHELL

So we have princess MAXIMA, we have a MAKSIM from Odessa
and we have SHELL.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000031EGS.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

The movie.
Jon Voight plays the good guy.
but who is the BAD guy, the Nazi.

http://geizhals.at/img/pix/177330.jpg

So there we have it combined. Princess MAXIMA and Royal Dutch Shell
The Prince of Orange is from GERMAN BLOODLINE and prince
Bernhard was a NAZI. But good opportunst as he was, he changed
sides.

But all this fuzz about Madeleine is about the Bloodline
of MARIA MAGDALENA. the Merovingian bloodline.

So another star in that movie.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/lb/e/ee/SchellMaria.jpg

MARIA SCHELL.

And you can see she´s an important lady...

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1957/1101571230_400.jpg

Even next to SUPERMAN.
Have posted yesterday that PRINCE ALEXANDER is SUPERMAN.
So confirmation here....

http://usuarios.lycos.es/supermanreturns/mariaschells3.jpg

[tintin]

Hello all. I'm new to this board so treat me gently. It seems I am barred from the unhived mind, I blame Tintin And Vera myself.
All that segregationalist stuff was making me sick anyway. I'll chip in when I can.

Hi Kallista,
Good to see you!

[kallista]

Hey Vera, not sure why but i can't seem to log in. I'm not that bothered to be honest, generally for the reason stated above. It was all that mixed races crap, it was pissing me off. I'm half Scottish half English myself. :)
That damn thread is moving down the board slowly, last post on 15th Oct by snoopsnuffleopagus with the immortal, and I quote: ""Australia is Australia""

[emerald]

Me again with some more Dutch stuff lol! It seems like in 1999 the main Hollywood target was to make movies about the end of the world. Given the importance of numbers and the veil of deceit we are kept under, nothing to wonder about. So that year The Omega Code was launched. Main role was played by the Dutch/American Casper Van Dien. Most of his family tree goes back to Holland and is related to Van Tassels family. As a boy he was sexually assaulted by his nanny and so was his actual wife, Catherine (link to KateMcCann) Oxenberg, abused by a priest in her childhood. Catherine has also blue blood being related to European nobility thru her mom, Elisabeta. She played the role of Lady Di some years back in a TV movie. 1999 was also the year this handsome Dutch married Catherine (8 of May). Back to a Maddy link, a university in which she studied was that of Columbia.
The Omega Code is a movie about apocalypse, with a strong religious plot. It comprises all so to say: Jews, Muslims, Rome, Catholics, number 7, decoding Bible, Satan, false religious leaders etc. He (and his family) subsequently manage to escape this "end" (at least they let the viewer hope so) but before the Antichrist named Stone Alexander (no stone unturned and Alexander the Great/Willem Alxander connection) crowns himelf king of the world...

[kallista]

Hey Vera, not sure why but i can't seem to log in. I'm not that bothered to be honest, generally for the reason stated above. It was all that mixed races crap, it was pissing me off. I'm half Scottish half English myself. :)
That damn thread is moving down the board slowly, last post on 15th Oct by snoopsnuffleopagus with the immortal, and I quote: ""Australia is Australia""

[vera susa]

Hey Vera, not sure why but i can't seem to log in. I'm not that bothered to be honest, generally for the reason stated above. It was all that mixed races crap, it was pissing me off. I'm half Scottish half English myself. :)
That damn thread is moving down the board slowly, last post on 15th Oct by snoopsnuffleopagus with the immortal, and I quote: ""Australia is Australia""

Yeah, funny how 'he' and 'they' have been members where ever we've posted this stuff, but wait for us to 'go away' before coming out with their floods of empty mockery.

And the other funny thing was my WHITE CELTIC CLAN Family members,
seeing Craig's post CURSING MY CHILDREN and me because some of our family
has married into 'brown' and 'black' 'blood'... they were VERY UNHAPPY and didn't have to say more than "RIGHT..." for me to know he really shouldn't have done that...yet he never had the GUTS to have a go at me for my
MANHATTAN ELITE SCIENTIST/HOLLYWOOD "JEW" 'bred' Nephew and Godson...who also KNOWS that OZ is 'The Place' "They" are Preserving.

Pity though that more folk don't mix in large 'mixed' families, as it's a great way to learn that NO "colour" or "cast" is precluded from being an asses posterior, or saintly soul!

Yep, the DECEIVERS prattle on about "SHEEPLE" but DENY INDIVIDUALITY...
to those not of 'Their' "Approved" "class(lessness)", of course!

[tintin]

Me again with some more Dutch stuff lol! It seems like in 1999 the main Hollywood target was to make movies about the end of the world. Given the importance of numbers and the veil of deceit we are kept under, nothing to wonder about. So that year The Omega Code was launched. Main role was played by the Dutch/American Casper Van Dien. Most of his family tree goes back to Holland and is related to Van Tassels family. As a boy he was sexually assaulted by his nanny and so was his actual wife, Catherine (link to KateMcCann) Oxenberg, abused by a priest in her childhood. Catherine has also blue blood being related to European nobility thru her mom, Elisabeta. She played the role of Lady Di some years back in a TV movie. 1999 was also the year this handsome Dutch married Catherine (8 of May). Back to a Maddy link, a university in which she studied was that of Columbia.
The Omega Code is a movie about apocalypse, with a strong religious plot. It comprises all so to say: Jews, Muslims, Rome, Catholics, number 7, decoding Bible, Satan, false religious leaders etc. He (and his family) subsequently manage to escape this "end" (at least they let the viewer hope so) but before the Antichrist named Stone Alexander (no stone unturned and Alexander the Great/Willem Alxander connection) crowns himelf king of the world...

Oh,la,la, Emerald,
This is something I really need to dig into.
But not today, suffer from an overload of info, right now.
But looks like some sort of Jackpot.

Fantastic find,
Keep them coming!

[tintin]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/ClaibornePell.jpg

Here we go Vera Susa.

CLAIBORNE PELL.
Born NOVEMBER 22, the day AMERICA died.
Senator for RHODE ISLAND. the RHODES connection.
went to St. GEORGE's school. (George Pell)
Went to PRINCETON. (masters degree in history, princeton is Orange,)
Went to COLOMBIA univ. (Master in arts, Madeleine conection)

Nearly all required links.

And he is a descendant of JOHN PELL, famous mathematicien.
that guy was invited by THE PRINCE OF ORANGE in Breda.

That prince was the youngest son of WILLIAM of ORANGE.
The founder more or less of modern Holland.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Taking_of_pelham_one_two_three.jpg

Madeleine McCann, disappeared 3 may. 123rd day of the year.

[vera susa]

THE... at least A 'KEY' FALSE PROPHET
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169505#post169505

So Australia not merely now
has a sectarian visa process,
its administration has been outsourced
to ecclesiastical officials in other countries.

O.K. so if it's too scary to expose PELL,
how about those who CAN access
"Craig Oxley" & "BROTHER Eric Jon Phelps",
EXPOSE those
GREAT SERVANTS of ROME for what "They" ARE,
by asking WHY "They" FLATLY REFUSE to
even ACKNOWLEDGE his GLOBAL INFLUENCE.

Or just search "true-lilly and Cardinal George Pell
at The Unhived Mind, and see for yourselves,
how HARD "They" worked at giving him the
PROTECTIVE COVER of SILENCE.

[vera susa]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/ClaibornePell.jpg

Here we go Vera Susa.

CLAIBORNE PELL.
Born NOVEMBER 22, the day AMERICA died.
Senator for RHODE ISLAND. the RHODES connection.
went to St. GEORGE's school. (George Pell)
Went to PRINCETON. (masters degree in history, princeton is Orange,)
Went to COLOMBIA univ. (Master in arts, Madeleine conection)

Nearly all required links.

And he is a descendant of JOHN PELL, famous mathematicien.
that guy was invited by THE PRINCE OF ORANGE in Breda.

That prince was the youngest son of WILLIAM of ORANGE.
The founder more or less of modern Holland.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Taking_of_pelham_one_two_three.jpg

Madeleine McCann, disappeared 3 may. 123rd day of the year.

THANK YOU tintin!

Silly me, should have realized that
WITHOUT an "AMERICAN connection,
very few seem to give a hoot!

Oh and remember guy's HOME Town is now also
the HOME of (Catholic/Nazi) IBM in the grounds of
the now Catholic, Ballarat University....

...we certainly ain't talking
some little 'nowhere man'
from some 'nowhere land'.

[vera susa]

O.K., now I'm suspecting this is a deliberate "MESSAGE Event"...


California fires affect 500,000
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44192000/jpg/_44192400_smoke_getty203b.jpg
Thousands of homes are threatened across the region
(and ONLY readable if you 'copy' the whole lot)
Smoke billows above
Stevenson Ranch, California (22 October)

Watch: Raging wildfires
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7058809.stm

More than half a million people have been
ordered to evacuate
parts of the US state of California
being engulfed by massive wildfires.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/americas_enl_1193074497/img/1.jpg


But get this "LIST of NAMES",
surely a bit 'much' to be a coincidence;

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/gif/_44193093_califor2_fires_map416.gif
Situation as of 8.31 pm local time, 22 October 2007:
1. Harris fire: 22,000 acres consumed, 5% contained.

2. Rice fire: 1,500 acres burned in San Diego county, 50 houses destroyed

3. Witch fire: 145,000 acres in San Diego County. Some 500 houses and 100 businesses destroyed. 36,000 residents in Ramona evacuated

4. Buckweed fire: 35,000 acres. Mandatory evacuation order of 15,000 local residents in place.

5. Magic fire: 1,200 acres burned, moving towards Ventura but not currently threatening any structures.

6. Ranch fire: 41,000 acres burned, 10% contained. Local evacuation orders in place.

7. Canyon fire: 3,800 acres consumed. 600 houses threatened, some 1,700 firefighters deployed.

8. Slide fire: 1,500 acres burned, 20 houses destroyed and 400 threatened.

9. Santiago fire: 15,200 acres burned, 30% contained. Some 3,000 houses threatened in local area.

Only fires which have consumed 1,000 acres or more are listed.

Sources: Cal Fire, US National Interagency Fire Center

[vera susa]

Right, so with all those fires and all those people, over such a large area,
it just has to be REBUS PUZZLE Time, when you "SEE" what the BBC CHOSE
to show us....

BBC NEWS 23 - 10 - 2007
In pictures: California wildfires

(and remember, the TOP captions ONLY appear
if you copy the lot in one hit,
so 'words', and 'names' likewise have to be 'read'
as well as 'colours', composition, etc.)

Firefighters watch as a helicopter douses a smouldering hill,
near Malibu, California
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193686_malibu_firemen416afp.jpg
Firemen have been tackling wildfires across California,
where 260,000 acres (105,000 hectares) of land
and more than 700 houses have been destroyed.


California Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger,
surveying the charred ruins of a Malibu church
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193720_schwarzenegger220ap.jpg
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
visited some of the most affected areas,
including this burnt church in Malibu.


Wildfires raging to the east of the town of Irvine
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193763_irvine220ap.jpg
The fires have been fanned by fierce desert winds
and have forced more than 300,000 evacuations
from Malibu to San Diego.


Homes in flames at the Valley Oaks mobile home park
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193789_valley_oaks416getty.jpg
At least 100 homes were destroyed by fire near Fallbrook,
whipped up by 100mph (160 km/h) winds.


A car destroyed by fire near Malibu
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193820_car416ap.jpg
The havoc created by the fires
prompted President George W Bush
to declare a federal emergency.



Firefighters mop-up damage at
an expensive beach-front home in Malibu
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190414_416_9malibu_gett.jpg
About 1,000 firefighters were called to the blaze at Malibu,
home to many wealthy celebrities.



Firefighters work to extinguish the flames at Castle Kashan
near Malibu Canyon Road, California
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190412_416_6kashan_gett.jpg
Castle Kashan was also destroyed. Built in the 1970s,
it was the home of local philanthropist Lilly Lawrence.


The burned remains of a car on Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190716_416_3malibu_gett_ok.jpg
The ground is parched after a record summer heatwave that
caused wildfires across large swathes of the western US,
from northern Washington state all the way south to New Mexico.


A tanker drops fire retardant on the Sedgwick Reserve fire
in Santa Ynez, Santa Barbara County
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190413_416_8santabarb_ap.jpg
Air crews have been called in to dump water and fire retardant
in forests across the state.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

[vera susa]

Ah those canny Scots!
Remember that link between BBC NEWS SCOTLAND
and Pratchett's "Going Postal" and "Making Money"
(WEE FREE Man, ANCIENT language is ENTIRELY CONTEXTUAL etc.),
and then on pg. 18, the HARRY POTTER/Cone Head/T Shirt messages...
well here we have ....

Today's BBC In PICTURES main page, VALUED EXPOSURE;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193136196/img/1.jpg

A "MIGRATING" Scots Number 6 "THOMAS" The Tank Engine,...and
why do those other 'marks' look so much like HEBREW to me...rather than 3 "7's", one reversed...seriously, my old tired eyes are having a 'bad' day, can't quite focus on the detail.

And then we have ALSO IN THE NEWS this simple, BLACK& YELLOW (DANGER) WAR image (isn't the war "OLDS" by now)...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193134347/img/1.jpg

and this one's for tintin, SPORT IN FOCUS. Dunno the team, but when
I see SOCCER combined with KARATE....!!!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44192000/jpg/_44192828_eidur_reveal.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193135458/img/1.jpg

[vera susa]

And when alls said & done,
ORANGE is that BIG PIECE of The PUZZLE...

(and the KING of The NORTH,
pitches his TENT in the SEAS between...)


23 October 2007, 17:44 GMT 18:44 UK
BBC NEWS
Day in pictures



Sea lions at Marineland animal park, in Antibes, France
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44194000/jpg/_44194005_lion_afp_416.jpg
Steller sea lions, Boris and Laska, meet the press
at their new home in Marineland
animal park, in Antibes, southern France.


Insecticide left by Cuban public health workers
fumigating the Havana streets
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44194000/jpg/_44194002_cuba_ap_416.jpg
A woman walks next to a cloud of insecticide
left by Cuban public health workers
who are fumigating the streets during
a campaign against dengue fever in Havana.


UK PM Gordon Brown (L) and his
Israeli counterpart Ehud Olmert in 10 Downing Street
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193999_brown_ap_220.jpg
UK PM Gordon Brown and
Israeli counterpart Ehud Olmert
in 10 Downing Street, London.
They later told reporters they wanted
more sanctions on Iran over its nuclear programme.
(Oh come on, this is straight out horrific!)


An Afghan refugee boy near his tent home on the outskirts of Kabul.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193998_afghan_ap_416.jpg
Afghan refugee boy Shafiq on the outskirts of Kabul.
His family fled their home in Helmand province six months ago,
amid fighting between the Taleban and US troops.
(and the KING of The NORTH,
pitches his TENT in the SEAS between...)


Three of the first migrating Siberian Bewick Swans
arrive in Gloucestershire, England, from Russia.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44194000/jpg/_44194007_swan_getty_416.jpg
Three of the first migrating Siberian Bewick Swans
arrive in Gloucestershire, England, from Russia.
Experts have warned the birds' sudden arrival means
Britain is in for a harsh winter.


Doctor examines Ukrainian conscripts
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193403_donetsk_416_afp.jpg
A doctor examines conscripts for the Ukrainian army
at a recruiting centre in the eastern city of Donetsk.


A Pakistani cricket team fan at the third day-night international match between Pakistan and South Africa at the Iqbal Stadium
in Faisalabad
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193484_cricketfan_afp416.jpg
A Pakistani cricket fan shows off his national colours
at the third day-night international match
between Pakistan and South Africa in Faisalabad.


Beijing performer spits on the floor
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44193000/jpg/_44193427_spit_220_ap.jpg
A performer in the Chinese capital Beijing spits on the floor
while applying make-up, as the city authorities try up to stamp out
bad manners ahead of the 2008 Olympics.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

[vera susa]

Well, that sleep window is starting to open, so I'll just post this,
NEWS BEHIND THE MAN BEHIND THE NEWS story and links,
and hope some keen 'investigative journalist'
(no pressure tintin who's already so familiar with the
HOWARD, RUDD, ZIGGY, MURDOCH connections),
will autopsy it for us while I nap.


Rudd
as close to US as
Howard:

Murdoch

Ian Munro, New York
October 24, 2007

A KEVIN Rudd-led government
would maintain the strong relationship
between Australia and the United States,
News Corporation chief Rupert Murdoch says.

Speaking yesterday before the American Australian Association annual dinner in New York, Mr Murdoch said that Mr Rudd was as committed to the alliance with the US as was Prime Minister John Howard.

Mr Murdoch, who has pointedly refused to comment on Australian politics recently, nonetheless endorsed Mr Rudd's strong support for what he said was a unique relationship with the US.

"If one takes the public comments of Mr Rudd and Mr Howard … they both put tremendous emphasis on the association between Australia and America," Mr Murdoch said.

"We can be friends with other countries, but here we are partners. I think Mr Rudd says that as much as Mr Howard says it."

Asked about Mr Howard's objection to the use of the Nine Network opinion "worm" during Sunday's debate, Mr Murdoch supported Mr Howard's right to lay down conditions for his participation.

While he qualified his comments by saying he did not know much about the issue, Mr Murdoch said it was the practice in the US for participants to set conditions.

"Sure, well it depends what you call by the rules," Mr Murdoch said.

"It's perfectly common in this country for candidates to lay down rules before they go on debates."

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[vera susa]

And before I start 'sleep typing'...I found this when cleaning out the old old files,
and hope someone can help with it;

http://i24.tinypic.com/24yr1jt.jpg

It was just a thumbnail/headline on some news site (possibly BBC),
and moments after I copied it, my PC dropped out and as soon
as I got back to that page, ANOTHER image was in it's place,
and my copy 'vanished' to, until just recently.

It "may" have been a BIG BEN story, but whatever, it "disturbs" me.
And with the GERMANS having bought a great hunk of
Mount ISA URANIUM Mines recently and having a 'Pow-Wow' in Indonesia
THIS DECEMBER, and 9:20...9 + 2 = 11...:confused::eek:

[vera susa]

Well, you can find a better reason to re-elect HOWARD than this.....

Pell endorses Labor's education policy

October 10, 2007 - 3:16PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...695971384.html

Cardinal George Pell has endorsed federal Labor's education policy.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169743&postcount=7

[vera susa]

Oh bloody hell, how hard do 'They' have work 'justifying' CODE these days.

Does this mean that even the Elite have been dumbed down to
MORONICALLY STUPID?

The following is NOT NEWS and VERY misleading to the point of being
a flat out LIE (folk have been breeding these critters for yonks,
and they aren't 'difficult breeders'), but hey, we all know that the BBC
has a more important job than telling News, like CALLING ALL FELLOW
SCOTS TO "SAVE" THE DEVIL, from us few remaining Actual Christians,
and reminding them of the importance of TASSIE and OZ.


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/jpg/_44190773_tasdevil_ap49.jpg
Tasmanian Devil
International bid to save the iconic Tasmanian Devil
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/default.stm

International bid to save Devils

22 October 2007, 11:07 GMT 12:07 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7056038.stm

By Phil Mercer
BBC News, Sydney

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41287000/jpg/_41287250_tas2_ap_203.jpg
Tasmanian devil. Image: Getty Images
Numbers of the marsupials have plunged over the last decade

Australian researchers are teaming up with zoos and wildlife parks
around the world in a bid to save the iconic Tasmanian Devil.

The world's largest carnivorous marsupial has been devastated
by a mysterious facial tumour.

Experts fear that the unusual animal could be extinct within 30 years.

It is hoped that by relocating healthy animals away from Tasmania,
the future of the species can be safeguarded.

The cantankerous Tasmanian Devil was given its name
by early European settlers.

Although it is only the size of a small dog, this carnivorous marsupial
can look and sound exceptionally fierce.

But despite the appearance of strength and aggression,
the Devil population in Tasmania is in real trouble.

A cancer that eats away at the mouth and face has
in some parts of the island killed more than 90% of adults.

It is thought the disease is spread when the animals bite each
when they are mating or fighting.

Researchers are now relocating healthy specimens to zoos
on the Australian mainland.

'Insurance policy'

Wildlife parks in the United States and Europe will take part
in an international rescue mission.

Professor Hamish McCallum from the University of Tasmania
describes the project as an "insurance policy",
but says that efforts to sustain Devils in the wild must also continue.

"In my firm opinion, a captive population on its own is not sufficient.
We need to be trying to maintain free ranging populations as well," he said.

Prof McCallum said that current indications show the animal
could become extinct on the mainland of Tasmania within 30 years.

However this programme would mean that they could
release captive animals into the wild.

There are also plans to introduce these nocturnal marsupials
to disease-free islands off Tasmania.

Breeding in captivity is not easy, which makes
the recent birth of four Devils at a wildlife sanctuary
in Queensland so significant.

Newborn Devils are the size of a grain of rice, and the ones
born in Queensland were the first babies to be produced
under the captive breeding programme.

[emerald]

Oh,la,la, Emerald,
This is something I really need to dig into.
But not today, suffer from an overload of info, right now.
But looks like some sort of Jackpot.

Fantastic find,
Keep them coming!

Thank u Tintin, take it izzie, anyway the amount of info is huge and it takes time and calmness too. Yet a news that "winked" at me today: "Purple Rain" declared best strck (soundtrack) ever. Add Iran matter and California intentional fires to this. Major fires this year in both Greece and the USA. Im afraid to think if therell be a next in this case...

[emerald]

Forgot to mention that these fires started a little before Halloween. Those "smarties" on the top of the pyramid:cool:

[armoured saint]

IRO,
CIGGY,
JONH WHITE,
BEAUTIFUL MEDUSA,
and the rest of "The Pack", have been well and truly busted,
KNOWINGLY LYING about The Great Southern Land,
in an effort to hide the FACT that The Creator KEPT and KEEPS
ALL His Promises.


As I recall, I do remember you used to make many false and defamatory remarks to many posters at "The Old Forum". You welcomed and helped create the drama that you were embroiled in. I do remember you falsely and deliberately mislead people to think that "Beautiful Medusa" threatened your life. That's a malicious lie and it's amazing how you can go on accusing others about lying whilst seemingly proud with a straight face.

Can you explain how certain people were 'busted' and knowingly lying'?
Try and keep 'The Creator' out of this please. God isn't a Copyright.



Apologies to the newer and more gentle minded readers who are not
aware of the 'history' between the "John White's" and myself,
but if I bit my tongue any harder, I'd drown in my own blood.


That's okay. They'll get to know you sooner or later.

[tintin]

Ha Vera Susa,
thanks for enriching my vocabulaire with the word "sleep-typing".
Think I will use that when i had a few beers.
Will call that "tipsy typing", just to warn people.....

But that Tasmanian devil.
See, that's a great example how TO READ the NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS.

An international bid....

http://harpervalley.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/_george-bush.jpg

The "CAPO di tutti CAPI,
the MAFIA BOSS of the
WORLD.

Not really of course but symbolically.
He is the self announced policeman of the world and
gives all the people a real MAFIA CHOICE.
Either you're wth US or you'r against us.

So mister DUBYA from DC
WASHNIGTON DC.

Now let's meet the MOVIE MAFIA BOSS.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/pcl/roundup/godfather1.jpg

DON CORLEONE, CAPO
DI TUTTI CAPI.

Marlon Brando in a real masterpiece.
But here's the clue.
it's washington DC. DC is 43.

DON CORLEONE.
DC. 43.

If remember correctly he died between the orange fruits.
(Not sure though).

And notice that Corleone is LEONE, a LION. The dutch LION.
But they make it even better.

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/TopFilms/Godfather/Godfather15.jpg

VITO CORLEONE. VC.
V= 22, C= 3, 223 or 322.
Room 322, SKULL and BONES

A year has 365 days. 43 + 322 is 365....

He was one of those "larger than life" actors that have
a presence that fills a room.
So very important guy.

So just check his birth and death dates.

http://oruzgan.web-log.nl/photos/mensen_in_het_nieuws_peop/jaap_de_hoop_scheffer_nato_photo.jpg

Marlon shares his birthday
with the current NATO BOSS.

that's 3 april.

And now to his death.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales.jpg

Marlon died the date
DIANA was born.

So the TOP military guy and the most
loved Royal of the world.

[harx bhullar]

I for one think Vera is spot on about Australia being Atlantis..

[Anders Lindman]

One example of 'news' behind the news is the house price bubble myth. Sure, there may be some kind of falling house prices, but really, look at it: what has more value; money made out of thin air or a house?

[sweet cheeks]

True-Silly has resurfaced and this time with a vengance! :D

Watch out now, 'coz everything is ORANGE!

:rolleyes:

I love to watch the psycho-babble!

Conspiratainment/Christardtainment all in one spot!

Please do continue with the show! :p

[klinker]

I'm enjoying it. ;)

[tintin]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004REOG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This movie has it all folks.

It's a CODE movie,
with REAL LIFE CODES, just
like the DA VINCI CODE.

And notice the year. it's from 1999.
But make that 666.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fergy/CasperVanDien.jpg

CASPER van DIEN.
He was the hero in the cult movie STARSHIP TROOPERS.
He was like a MISTER PERFECT.
He is almost NON-HUMAN in that movie.

Anyway, he is from DUTCH descent and is Married to Catherine
Oxenberg. (Also interesting lady).

He was griffin STONE in beverly hills 90210.
That STONE connection. It's all about the STONES.

Just to remind folks.

We had the NO STONE unturned foundation. (Maddie Mccann)
we had the KEYSTONE PUMPKIN case in Melbourne.
We have BUSTER KEATON (KEY-TON) as the GREAST STONE FACE)

We have Mount Rushmore near KEY-STONE in america.
There is the GREAT STONE FACE, the OLD MAN of
the MOUNTAIN that transformed into DUST in 2003 (3 may, Maddie.)

And lot's more STONE links.

http://www.popculturecorn.com/butter/stories/00/images/inline/90210end.gif

Beverly hills aired from 4 octber 1990
WORLD ANIMAL DAY (Monkey man, "moses" Heston,
The BEAST) until 17 may 2000.
That's PRINCESS MAXIMA's birthday, the 137th
day of the year. (1307, templars.)

And 17 may was the day the DA VINCI CODE was released.

So Casper was MISTER STONE.

Now we go to OLIVER STONE.

http://www.toshow.org/news/img/Oliver%20Stone.jpg

OLIVER STONE, the mount
of OLIVES, Jerusalem.

So a very interesting STONE, mister OLIVE.
He made a movie about the WTC TWIN attack.
TWINS and STONES. Always seem to be together.

TWIN = TO WIN. TW.
T= 20 W = 23. Gives 223 or 322. SKULL and BONES room 322.

The danger with guys like Oliver Stone is that they seem "reasonable".
But they are just deceivers. Telling a story but
deliberately omitting the essential facts is even worse than
outright lying.
Just like Michael Moore. Dangerous fellows.

But it's not all bad. He is a skilfull moviemaker.

This is another one.

http://ant.sillydog.org/blog/pic/alexposter.jpg

ALEXANDER AND STONE

Now we're getting closer.
we are looking for the ANTI-CHRIST.
The MEROVINGIAN KING, the bloodline of "JESUS" combined
with SATAN. Mary Magdalena.

The 13th satanic bloodline.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0203408/fcstil_1141.jpg

Michael York is the ANTI-
CHRIST in the Omega code.
He is ALEXANDER STONE.

Right. We're getting close again.
Michael YORK.
Now that's an interesting name.

We have NEW YORK, and we ahve the YORK rite of FREEMASONRY.
But NEW YORK is NEW AMSTERDAM folks.

The dutch are the boss in NEW AMSTERDAM.

NEW YORK, AMSTELREDAM
and LONDINIUM all have a
Numeric Code of 666.

A= 6, B= 12, C= 18, etc.

Amsterdam was AMSTELREDAM initially.
And London was LONDINIUM at birth.

Now we go to MADELEINE McCANN.

http://www.yaps4u.net/images/MadeleineMcCannDistinctiveRightEyeIdenti_137B3/mccann2.jpg

The EYE of MADELEINE.

M EYE or MI. But the Y als has the same sound as an I.
So Micheal York or MY can be read as M EYE possibly.
But anyway.
Let's look into her EYE.

She has COLOBOMA. Columbia, district of Columbia. Columbus.
it has all to do with AMERICA unleashing HELL on earth.

http://homepage.mac.com/jsantosa/vitabrevis/art/images5/irises.jpg

IRISES by van Gogh.
Look into my eyes. IRISES.

The IRIS in the EYE.

This painting was once the most expensive painting
in the world. It was sold for 54 million Dollars to AUSTRALIAN
business man Alan Bond.
Also symbolism. You see with EYES and IRISES. And if you can
see clear you will see AUSTRALIA.

But that needs some DECODING.

Anyway, the painting IRISES.
Van GOGH. From Holland

World famous painter who killed himself.
Also known for his SUNFLOWER paintings. Sunflowers stands
for NUKES.

So who played Van Gogh in the movie.

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/D_lust-for-life_color.article.jpg

KIRK DOUGLAS as VINCENT.
and it's all ORANGE. KIRK
was born in AMSTERDAM, NEW YORK.

A city in the state of NEW YORK.
So AMSTERDAM is the place where we have to look.

And that movie lust for life was based on a book

WRITTEN BY IRVING STONE

Ah, those stones again.
So what happened in AMSTERDAM in 2005?

http://skender.be/blog/afbeeldingen/theo.jpg

THEO VAN GOGH, grandson
of Vincent's Brother killed
in AMSTERDAM

I am at my picture limit now but will continue this story.

[kallista]

Hi Kallista,
Good to see you!

Hola Tintin!

[tintin]

http://www.lpfwestland.nl/TEKST%20BEWERKEN/Image8.jpg

PIM FORTUYN who, completely
on his own, was on his way
to become the DUTCH
PRIME MINISTER.

Never seen before. The guy entered politics and was UNSTOPPABLE.
And he did it all on his own

But what happens if you cross the lines?

http://www.geocities.com/rememberpim2002/driehuis_begrafenis_fortuyn.jpg

DEAD and BURIED.

Was the 6th of may
Theo van Gogh made a movie about him and the murder.

http://www.let.vu.nl/bachelor/acw/0605.jpg

THEO van Gogh made
a movie about Fortuyn and
was himself KILLED 911 days
after Pim Fortuyn.

Huge shock in both cases.

Prince Willem Alexander of orange is the so called Anti-Christ.
He is the MEROVINGIAN KING.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Michaelyork.jpg

Michael York, the STONE ALEXANDER ANTI-CHRIST
in the OMEGA code is PURPLE. (WIKIPEDIA)

PURPLE is the color of GENOCIDE and the ROYAL COLOR.

http://www.lennekeruiten.com/photo/17-cecilia-bartoli-lenneke-.jpg

Here you see CECILIA BARTOLI and WILLEM ALEXANDER
in the middle.

ALEXANDER and Princess MAXIMA (Maximum power) met
each other "coincidently" in SEVILLA.
SEVILLA is where half of the most important OPERA's are
located.

Wilem ALEXANDER is DON GIOVANNI (Don William) the
PHANTOM Of THE OPERA.

http://ring.mithec.com/images/Cover%20Don%20Giovanni.jpg

DON WILLIAM and WOLFGANG
AMADEUS MOZART
Location SEVILLA.

http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/uploadedImages/Figaro%20poster%20450.JPG

The Marriage of FIGARO
is located in SEVILLA.


http://www.mindef.nl/binaries/6702_tcm15-23614.jpg

SHORTLY AFTER THEY MET
In SEVILLA THEY MARRIED.

http://www.kb.nl/dossiers/mozart/wolfgang-amadeus-mozart.jpg

WOLFGANG AMADEUS. W.A.
WILLEM ALEXANDER W.A.

[armoured saint]

I for one think Vera is spot on about Australia being Atlantis..

How can Australia be Atlantis? It hasn't sunk........Yet.:D

[2013]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22634351-2,00.html
This story from australian tv news ! about a Dutch illusion! performed in front of the white house .
Does this mean the white house is just a front for the dutch magicians ?

DUTCH magician Ramana has been doing his best to freak out American people by levitating in Times Square and in front of the White House.

The illusionist, real name Wouter Bijdendijk, hovered several feet above the pavement with apparent ease. His only "prop" was a stick that he held with his left hand.

A household name in his native Netherlands, Ramana has performed for Queen Beatrix and has been honoured in India with the Golden Cloth award, the highest cultural honour ever given to a westerner, metro.co.uk reported.

"This is an art," he said.

"And in India, they see it also as a science. I hope I make people wonder," Ramana said.

Ramana's repertoire also includes "flying" up to 10 metres above ground, mind reading and other forms of Indian street trickery.

:D

[tintin]

http://www.oswego.edu/oz/opera/images/barber.poster.jpg

SO WHO IS THE
BARBER OF SEVILLE?

this was the 8th picture on google.
And interestingly, we see ORANGE, a PURPLE title
and the WATERMAN theatre.

Alexander is the ORANGE, PURPLE WATERMANAGER.

An OPERA composed by Giacomo ROSSINI.
Had it's premiere in ROME.

Who is the BARBER that will SHAVE ALL THE SHEEP?
Who is that BARBARIC fellow?

For some clues we go to ROME.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/S_Eustachio_-_teatro_Argentina_1010120_.JPG/736px-S_Eustachio_-_teatro_Argentina_1010120_.JPG

TEATRO ARGENTINA, ROME.

Alexander is married to MAXIMA ZORREGUIETA, an ARGENTINIAN.
From BUENOS AIRES.
Alexander and MAXIMA were married 2-2-2002.
THE BARBER OF SEVILLE.
The premiere in Teatro Argentina was 20-2.

The OPERA was based on a comedy
from BEAUMARCHAIS.

He died 17 or 18 may.
Maxima's birthdate.

TEATRO ARGENTINA OPENED
31 JANUARY.

http://www.vierdaagsefeestennijmegen.nl/afbeeldingen/koningin.jpg

31 JANUARY. BIRTHDAY
of QUEEN BEATRIX
of HOLLAND. Mother of ALEX.

So we go to another WORLD famous OPERA
HOUSE. TEATRO COLON in BUENOS AIRES,
HOMETOWN of MAXIMA.

http://www.danzaballet.com/UserFiles/Image/TeatroCerrito1_500.jpg

TEATRO COLON, BUENOS AIRES
OPENED 27 april, ALEXANDER'S
BIRTHDAY.

MAXIMA from BUENOS AIRES.
Buenos Aires where the AIR is BUENOS.
Maxima for the AIR and ALEXANDER is
THE WATERMANAGER. WATER and AIR.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3748/handofgod0sz.jpg

WHERE IS THE HAND
OF GOD POINTING AT? AND
WHERE IS MAXIMA POINTING AT?
GET THE DOUBLE MESSAGE?

DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA.
From BUENOS AIRES, just as MAXIMA.
He is pointing at the ANTI-CHRIST and MAXIMA
confirms it by pointing at his hand.

ARMANDO MARADONA.

so what happened two days ago in HOLLAND?


http://www.dag.nl/upload_mm/8/d/5/1842340880_1999999894_armando_440x293.jpg

THE ARMANDO MUSEUM
WENT UP IN FLAMES.

Nothing left. All the art gone.
Armando is a dutch artist who lived for a long time
in BERLIN. Berlin where ALEXANDERPLATZ is the centre.

His real name is HERMAN DIRK VAN DODEWEERD.

Now look at that name.

DODEWEERD

DEATH in dutch is DOOD. A deat man is called a DODE.
So DODE-WEERD.

But there's more.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Dodewaardcentrale.jpg

FORMER NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
IN DODEWAARD, HOLLAND.
DODEWEERD and DODEWAARD.

DEATH.
And wiki show us another picture.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/c/c0/KerncentraleDodewaard1995.jpg

NUKES and FLOODING.
Alex is the WATERMANAGER.

[friendsinthesky]

This painting was once the most expensive painting
in the world. It was sold for 54 million Dollars to AUSTRALIAN
business man Alan Bond.
Also symbolism. You see with EYES and IRISES. And if you can
see clear you will see AUSTRALIA.

Alan Bond is bankrupt, I wonder who has the painting now?

Tintin, I like your work. I have a question; [When you say liberty has fallen then apes (Bush) will rule the world........how will Bush run the world if the USA is destroyed?] maybe I've missed a post or 2.

Keep up the good work guys..

[friendsinthesky]

Oh, a glimps at todays mainstream TV news.

-headline wording "falling star" (marie osmond collasped during 'dancing with stars) pfft.

-immediate following headline, well actually, it was the weather being presented But the location was in big letters "federation square".

-falling star - federation square...what could it mean?:confused:

[tintin]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22634351-2,00.html
This story from australian tv news ! about a Dutch illusion! performed in front of the white house .
Does this mean the white house is just a front for the dutch magicians ?

DUTCH magician Ramana has been doing his best to freak out American people by levitating in Times Square and in front of the White House.

The illusionist, real name Wouter Bijdendijk, hovered several feet above the pavement with apparent ease. His only "prop" was a stick that he held with his left hand.

A household name in his native Netherlands, Ramana has performed for Queen Beatrix and has been honoured in India with the Golden Cloth award, the highest cultural honour ever given to a westerner, metro.co.uk reported.

"This is an art," he said.

"And in India, they see it also as a science. I hope I make people wonder," Ramana said.

Ramana's repertoire also includes "flying" up to 10 metres above ground, mind reading and other forms of Indian street trickery.

:D

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/world/2310_levitation_9_lg.jpg

RIGHT FOLKS. NOW COMPARE
THIS WITH THAT "SILLY"
NEWSSTORY YESTERDAY.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/cthomasmumDM2210a_468x397.jpg

A 3 year old as
HARRY POTTER.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_03/2CharliePottySWNS_468x576.jpg

All quite Orange folks.
in front of the White house and in devon.
And remember that the dutch prime minister is
Harry Potter.

http://www.cuteandfluffy.co.uk/diary/img/balkgevallen.jpg

And TIME tells us how important
the MAGIC of HARRY POTTER is.

http://homepage.mac.com/heli1/B937180087/C1047361832/E1872053562/Media/HarryPotter.jpg

[harx bhullar]

How can Australia be Atlantis? It hasn't sunk........Yet.:D

Yeah don't try to hide the fact you are one of "them", deliberatly confusing the priceless information in this thread so the real truthseekers won't get their hands on these "knowledge-gems" :mad:

Go report back to your boss/master-henchman Iro and tell him he is no match for the REAL truth, no matter how many footsoldiers he will send this way :mad:

[fullfathomfive]

Since when did a stream of consciousness qualify as conspiracy theory?

[tintin]

With thanks to a smart poster here
who provides me with some interesting links,
here's some more about
the ANTI-Christ, the PRINCE of ORANGE.

http://giotto.ibs.it/vjack/z99/8013294801699.jpg

Just posted about the relationship from VINCENT van GOGH
to KIRK DOUGLAS and the ANTI-CHRIST and now
I hear that Kirk Douglas was the FATHER of the ANTICHRIST
in this movie.

See folks, once you see the connections you
see patterns and they are everywhere. This whole conspiracy is
not about isolated events or whatever. Just one big SPIDERWEB.

Kirk is Church and in dutch it is KERK.
Kirk kerkorian and Andre KIRK agassi.

KIRK DOUGLAS.
Now here is the story how he met his first wife.

He was serving in the US NAVY and then he saw on the cover
of LIFE MAGAZINE a certain DIANA DILL, and he told his mates that he
would marry her.

What a romantic story.
But here's those strange "coincidences" once gain.
That event on that SHIP was on

3 may, the day
MADELEINE disappeared.
in 1943. Bush 43.

Now is there some JOURNALIST present at that moment?
Is there someone that writes it down and phones
a paper, we have a navy guy here that.....

I mean, he was not famous at that time. first movie was in 46.
So strange little coincidence.
Anyway. They married.

OK. now remember that KIRK played VINCENT van GOGH.

http://www.thecityreview.com/lust4.gif

GOOD OLD KIRK FROM AMSTERDAM PLAYS VINCENT VAN GOGH.

Van Gogh was DUTCH. His brother was the grandfather of a
dutch filmaker. THEO van GOGH. Very controversial guy
but quite popular. A cult figure.

WARNING!! Picture of a dead guy follows






http://www.atlantis2012.com/foto-forum/Theovangogh.jpg

It was close to where I live.
I have seen already quite a few guys lying on the streets like that.

Anyway. He was murdered , quite brutally.

OK. Kirk Douglas as Vincent van Gogh.

KIRK DOUGLAS AKA VINCENT
VAN GOGH MARRIED
on the same date as
THEO van GOGH was
MURDERED.

Yes, how coincident again.
And not only that. It was 911 days after PIM FORTUYN
was murdered and on 2 NOVEMBER.

EUROPEAN ALARM NUMBER.

So KIRK from AMSTERDAM is the father of the ANTI CHRIST.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southerncounties/going_out/theatre/2005/previews/beyond_reasonable_doubt/images/simon_ward_150.jpg

SIMON WARD played THE ANTI-CHRIST.
He was the son of KIRK in that movie Holocaust 2000.

Simon ward born 19 october. so 119 or 911.
Here we go again. I am not making up these silly coincidences,
they are for everyone to see.

Well, unless you prefer to stay BLIND or you have different reasons
to deny these things. And people can judge for themselves.
These are facts folks. Not some imaginations inside my little brain.

So Simon ward played the ANTICHRIST.
He has a famous daughter SOPHIE WARD.
Sophie has also a sister (Probably a half sister).
That sister is called

Claudia DEVLIN.

Now is it just me or does that look like DEVIL.
Anyway, Simon ward , the ANTICHRIST will be very happy
with Claudia DEVIL.

[tintin]

http://eyeball-series.org/tnrc/pict5.jpg

THE BUSHEHR NUCLEAR
POWERPLANT IN IRAN

Quite "coincident" that this NUCLEAR power
plant is BUSHEHR.

CALL me LOCO IN
ACAPULCO but BUSHEHR LOOKS
TO ME A BIT LIKE BUSH

http://eyeball-series.org/tnrc/pict4.jpg

Especially when BUSHEHR
is the 18th province.
666


(WIKIPEDIA)

[fullfathomfive]

Since when did a stream of consciousness qualify as conspiracy theory?

I'll qualify that. Since when did word association with a stream of consciousness qualify as conspiracy theory?

Or is this an elaborate pisstake?

[kallista]

I'll qualify that. Since when did word association with a stream of consciousness qualify as conspiracy theory?

Or is this an elaborate pisstake?

I think you need to check your definition of Stream of Conciousness.Then requalify. There is a conspiracy against most of us, if not all of us, only most people feel safer not believing this. I can confirm this theory is fact.

[fullfathomfive]

I think you need to check your definition of Stream of Conciousness.Then requalify. There is a conspiracy against most of us, if not all of us, only most people feel safer not believing this. I can confirm this theory is fact.

I have no doubt there is a conspiracy. I can see it with my own eyes.

My point is, equating such as Kirk Douglas with said conspiracy, upon his role in a film about Van Gogh, makes us all look stupid. As do the other connections in this thread. Please provide one shred of evidence if you disagree.

Especially when BUSHEHR
is the 18th province.
666

It is things like this that grind my gears.

We become a laughing stock.

[tintin]

I have no doubt there is a conspiracy. I can see it with my own eyes.

My point is, equating such as Kirk Douglas with said conspiracy, upon his role in a film about Van Gogh, makes us all look stupid. As do the other connections in this thread. Please provide one shred of evidence if you disagree.



It is things like this that grind my gears.

We become a laughing stock.

Look, I have shown on another site a FEW THOUSAND FACTS
like that.

Is this the only thing you have seen?
Are you just jumping into this business?

What do you mean by WE?
Who is WE?

Are you part of that WE?
Laughing stock? Isolating one thing and then make
a fool of me?

Who are these guys that always jump into our threads
have nothing to add and show this despicable arrogance?

[kallista]

Look, I have shown on another site a FEW THOUSAND FACTS
like that.

Is this the only thing you have seen?
Are you just jumping into this business?

What do you mean by WE?
Who is WE?

Are you part of that WE?
Laughing stock? Isolating one thing and then make
a fool of me?

Who are these guys that always jump into our threads
have nothing to add and show this despicable arrogance?

He is looking for a bite, hence the double post. He got what he wanted; a reaction. He can go back to Alex Jones now.

[pri01]

Now then, I am enjoying all this looking for message stuff in tv, and other media outlets.

I wondered about the latest advertisement for Cadburies Dairy Milk chocolate and couldn't understand the relevance of a gorilla playing drums to Phil Collins. Until nOw.

The purple background-The Ape-The Song etc.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

No mention of chocolate.

I could be wrong though as I am new at this.

[2013]

Now then, I am enjoying all this looking for message stuff in tv, and other media outlets.

I wondered about the latest advertisement for Cadburies Dairy Milk chocolate and couldn't understand the relevance of a gorilla playing drums to Phil Collins. Until nOw.

The purple background-The Ape-The Song etc.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

No mention of chocolate.

I could be wrong though as I am new at this.

Not at all and well spoted it is enjoyable unravelling all the connections even if they are not spot on there is defiantely a link even if to some it isnt by design then what is the coincidence because the universe really is offering a lot of info up :D

[vera susa]

Thank u Tintin, take it izzie, anyway the amount of info is huge and it takes time and calmness too. Yet a news that "winked" at me today: "Purple Rain" declared best strck (soundtrack) ever. Add Iran matter and California intentional fires to this. Major fires this year in both Greece and the USA. Im afraid to think if therell be a next in this case...

Likewise we had those MAJOR FIRES in PORTUGAL, SPAIN (with quite a death toll) and OZ and then also, ALL THOSE FLOODS and STORMS around The World...(tintin gave quite a shocking pictorial example on the other thread we had), along with many other disasters like Volcanoes, Earthquakes, Landslides...and well, the last half a dozen years or so, have really left no part of the world untouched by indiscriminate disasters....oh and WARS!

The world is running out of places UNTOUCHED by Disasters, yet still folk talk about, "WAITING for the STHTF!!???...Tsunami, Earthquake, KATRINA etc. survivors, are STILL HOMELESS YEARS LATER....oh then of course we've also
been suffering SLAVERY, GREATER THAN DURING IT'S PEAK 400 YEAR Period...
but hey, we'll just call it "People TRAFFICKING" and GIVE THOSE SLAVE TRADERS yet another MULTI-MILLION Dollar GOVERNMENT Contract AFTER
THEY GET BUSTED!

These are indeed, "DIFFICULT TIMES, HARD TO BEAR"...and the world is being made aware that NO POWER OF MANS HAND CAN "SAVE" our mortal, carnal, fleshly, FIRST, lives...it is a 'last straw', 'severe correction', of stubborn 'children' who ARE RISKING THEIR ETERNAL LIVES by continuing to IGNORE their FATHER'S GOOD ADVICE, to NOT put our faith in ANYTHING or ONE of
this DEATH INFECTED AGE OF THE WORLD....even science knows, everything in and of the world is DEAD or DYING, ever since OXYGEN ('The Prince of The Air') appeared on earth. From our bodies (all flesh has a FINITE number of BREATHS) to Iron (RUST), it's OXYGEN that DESTROYS.

Yes, the earth had a long period of NO OXYGEN, BUT, SOFT Plants on LAND Originally TOTALLY COVERED by WATER (LONG before the LATER GLOBAL FLOOD, DURING the time of The SUPER-CONTINENT), JUST AS DESCRIBED in Holy Scripture, but BECAUSE of THE FALSE "TIME LINES" taught us to SELL
the, Moses led Israel out of "Egypt" LIE of the Anti-Christs, most of the world REFUSES to STUDY God's Living Word against WHAT WAS, and IS in the Whole, REAL World, and so MISS SEEING that HE told us "FROM THE BEGINNING what WAS and WILL BE".

That the world if chock full of atheists and anti-Christ who DON'T believe ANYTHING in 'the Bible' EXCEPT the EGYPT LIE, which TIES us to DEATH WORSHIPING CULTS, is a bloody big hint as to WHY OZ was HIDDEN by
'those Royals', for HUNDREDS of Years, and SOUTH America's HISTORY
and LANGUAGES DESTROYED, BEFORE European settlement was allowed.

"They" couldn't risk us SEEING just how accurate God's Word
FOR and ABOUT The WHOLE World and ALL Peoples, over ALL TIME,
actually IS.

[vera susa]

As I recall, I do remember you used to make many false and defamatory remarks to many posters at "The Old Forum".

And as I said, any REAL RESEARCHERS who want to look into the cached records
of WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID by WHOM, will also SEE that "You" are are doing just what "THEY" did....simply posting SELECTIVE, OUT of ORDER and CONTEXT 'quotes' and LIES, in the hope that 'friends' will TAKE "YOUR" WORD as truth.

But thanks for this post, it helps folk sort the DECEIVERS from Truth seekers.

[vera susa]

One example of 'news' behind the news is the house price bubble myth. Sure, there may be some kind of falling house prices, but really, look at it: what has more value; money made out of thin air or a house?

Yes, but also it's WHERE to buy that Real Estate that shows WHERE
The Global Power Base is Shifting to, and buy WHERE "They" are
moving AWAY FROM, is what's caught so many out.

[vera susa]

True-Silly has resurfaced and this time with a vengance! :D

Watch out now, 'coz everything is ORANGE!

:rolleyes:

I love to watch the psycho-babble!

Conspiratainment/Christardtainment all in one spot!

Please do continue with the show! :p

Here we go, a classic example of a DECEIVER out to DISTRACT and DERAIL
the topic from us SHOWING WHERE the 'Powers' and SECRETS are HIDDEN in "Common Society".

Straight out with a childish, personal attack, based purely on what "They"
TELL others I believe and say (like "John White" having a few WAY OFF stabs at DECLARING WHAT MY faith is), yet NOT A SINGLE COUNTER ARGUMENT to the volumes of EVIDENCE we've presented...but hey, "They" have a board full of 'friends' who will jump in to join the yapping, snapping and "Brother's Back Slapping", to make sure all know the "MAJORITY" (that by fact, is ALWAYS WRONG), will NOT TOLERATE ANYONE of Faith in The Creator, explaining the VAST difference between HIS Word, and the Anti-Christ, KJV, 'Bacon-Fried' 'bible', and ALL of The Whore's Bastard Children that spawned from it.

Oh, and this missive is TOTALLY ON TOPIC.

Unlike this and others such posts flowing in now.

As we know, many now ONLY get their "news" and "information" from the NET 'community forums', in an effort to avoid the MANIPULATION of mindSETS, so we suffer TEAMS of "Them" Employed to 'round up' the 'sheep' breaking away from the herds of 'goats'.

Well I do trust that there those who DON'T want to be TOLD who's views to throw out, out of hand, but like to consider the arguments presented by ALL,
and sort the shit from the sugar themselves.

"They" on the other hand, jump in screaming, "RUN AWAY, DON'T LOOK BACK, RUUNNNN from 'THOSE words' ... or "WE'LL" HATE YOU to!", yet never bother to discuss the 'evidence' behind their different opinions.

Kinda tells the independent, thinking mind something, don't it.

[armoured saint]

Yeah don't try to hide the fact you are one of "them", deliberatly confusing the priceless information in this thread so the real truthseekers won't get their hands on these "knowledge-gems" :mad:

Go report back to your boss/master-henchman Iro and tell him he is no match for the REAL truth, no matter how many footsoldiers he will send this way :mad:

It's an honest question. How can Australia be Atlantis if it hasn't sunk?

If you regard one question as some deliberate ploy to 'confuse "priceless information", ' then I'd hate to think what you will say if I make a serious attempt at enquiing as to the foundation and relevance to much of the information on this thread.

[armoured saint]

And as I said, any REAL RESEARCHERS who want to look into the cached records
of WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID by WHOM, will also SEE that "You" are are doing just what "THEY" did....simply posting SELECTIVE, OUT of ORDER and CONTEXT 'quotes' and LIES, in the hope that 'friends' will TAKE "YOUR" WORD as truth.

But thanks for this post, it helps folk sort the DECEIVERS from Truth seekers.

That's fine. You can keep your guilt to yourself Lilly, but remember. The one mostly deceiving you, is yourself. Carry on.

[mcmenek1]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489003&in_page_id=1770

This story appeared in most of the major tabloids in UK today and wondered if I am learning about seeing something else in the news.
I don't know if I am right but here goes. Look at the t-shirt on this child and what it says.Look at the very ordinary cone and how it sits gently on his head. In my veiw, for this cone to be stuck so tight as to need 6 fire crew to remove it, it would have to had been superglued on. Is this something to do with California fires? Are they treating us like dunces, showing someone in a dunce shaped cap and making fun of us with the words on the t-shirt. It's a little odd to me.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/23/charlie-3-stuck-in-wizard-hat-89520-19993366/

Hi pri01,

Yes you are learning about seeing something else in the news...........this story is so phoney it’s laughable, why did the fire crew have to cut through the base of the cone like that....... these cones actually come in two parts, the hexagon base slides over the top of the cone and drops down to form the complete cone and it can be easily removed again.......

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7752/trafficconexi4.jpg

There can be lots of reasons for phoney stories like these, some of the things I’ve picked up on is the vibration frequency of the words and numbers in negative news reports like this one, if we look at the vibration of some of the numbers and words used in this report we get this:

Boys age = 3
30 min to remove hat (3+0) = 3
Dads name Martin = 3
emergency call = 999
time to arrive 45min (4+5) =9
wizard = 9
Dumbledore = 99
Traffic = 9
Dads age 36 (3+6) = 9
Hat = 11
Charlie = 11


The number 9 is the natural balancing vibration frequency that runs through the 3rd dimension of duality for example the female vibration of 3 balances out the male vibration of 6 to create the balanced vibration frequency of 9.......”The Powers That Be” want to upset this natural balance that’s why they constantly attach negativity to the female vibration of 3 and the harmonious vibration of 9 this has the effect of suppressing our conscious awareness....... it has been discovered that our DNA can be programmed via words, numbers, sound and thought ”The Powers That Be” are aware of this and they use words and numbers with certain vibrations and attach negativity to them this has the cumulative effect of shutting us (our DNA) down vibrationally which limits our conscious awareness........some people are more consciously aware that others that’s why some people can see things other people can’t.......


http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8599/snowflake2vz4.jpg
The Hexagon shape appearing in a snowflake

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7507/orbeaverrucosati7.jpg
The Hexagon shape appearing in a flower

The Hexagon shape can be found a lot in nature and is a symbol of balance and harmony

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5324/1charliebd6.jpg

This picture shows us a hexagon cut in half.......”The Powers That Be” are telling us what they have in store for our balance and harmony

To see how far this rabbit hole goes see this thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979

Well spotted pri01.........:)

Love
&
Peace

[vera susa]

Since when did a stream of consciousness qualify as conspiracy theory?

Since before (but we'll work from when),
ROME started COMMISSIONING
'artists', Architects, Musicians, Poets, Writers
et-bloody-cetera, to "HERD" us into
a CLOSED VIEW of what
"They" present as
'history' and 'science'
and
MORE DANGEROUSLY,
'good', 'bad' what Holy Scripture
ACTUALLY TEACHES.

It's funny how many go on about
some COMMISSIONED "Matrix" movie's FANTASY,
of what the WEB of LIES that BLINDS and CONTROLS us is,
or use the "codes" in some COMMISSIONED NOVEL,
to 'dis-prove' the Resurrection of The Saviour
and have us chasing after the
FALSE CODES in 'art' & Architecture...
but when we SHOW the ACTUAL MATRIX
of the THREADS
THROUGHOUT EVERYDAY Life,
that form the Spiders WEB we've been NETTED in...
well, out come the knives from the smugglers pockets of all the
TAVISTOCK spawned, "peace & luuvvv" (when There Is NO Peace),
forum "Regulars"...i.e. 'Goat Herders', Employed Shills.

Oh, and I'm NOT
pointing the finger at any "one",
just laying out the "Truth Kickers, Jack Boots";
if anyone finds they fit and CHOSE to don them,
DON'T BLAME ME that others HEAR YOU COMING.

[vera susa]

Now then, I am enjoying all this looking for message stuff in tv, and other media outlets.

I wondered about the latest advertisement for Cadburies Dairy Milk chocolate and couldn't understand the relevance of a gorilla playing drums to Phil Collins. Until nOw.

The purple background-The Ape-The Song etc.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

No mention of chocolate.

I could be wrong though as I am new at this.

Oh you are SO NOT wrong!


Cadbury Does Not Own the Colour Purple

Friday, July 28, 2006
by: Duncan Bucknell
http://www.ipfrontline.com/depts/article.asp?id=11984&deptid=7
http://www.ipfrontline.com/articleimages/Cadbury.jpg

On 27 April 2006,
Justice Heerey of the Australian Federal Court
handed down his decision in
Cadbury Schweppes Pty Ltd
v
Darrell Lea Chocolate Shops Pty Ltd (No 4).
http://michaelatkinson.com.au/joom/images/stories/purple_haze.jpg

And where do we have a
World Famous Cadbury Factory,
that people FROM AROUND THE WORLD
come to "SEE"....

http://www.affiliate.viator.com/graphicslib/3998/SITours/Exp_Tas_9.jpg

As Australia’s second oldest city,
Hobart
http://www.sydneyorgan.com/tasmania.jpg
has many historic buildings.
Depending on your tastes, take a tour of
the Cadbury Factory
or Cascade Brewery,
http://www.openroad.com.au/images/1/Tas_Cascade_Brewery_Hobart.jpg
Australia’s oldest manufacturing enterprise.

And what else is TASMANIA FAMOUS for?

The GENOCIDE of it's NATIVE PEOPLE,
the REMAINS of
an "INTERESTING "NUMBER"
NOW in the 'news'...

Aboriginal remains
return to Tasmania
after 20-year fight

Maev Kennedy
Saturday May 12, 2007
The Guardian

The long exile has ended
for 17 Tasmanian Aboriginal people
whose remains, stored for more than a century
among those of hundreds of other human beings
in the collections of
the Natural History Museum in London,
were formally returned to their people yesterday.

They will be flown back to their native land this weekend.

Both the physical remains of 13 people,
and the DNA samples extracted from them,
were returned to Greg Brown and Caroline Spotswood,
representatives of the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre in Hobart,
by Michael Dixon, director of the museum.
Remains of four other individuals were returned in April.

article and further links
(the 'full' story is FAR from being told yet),
continued at;
www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,2078160,00.html

[vera susa]

Now here's another "curious" FACT
of Google's part
in spinning the WEBS of CONTROL....

cadbury doesn't own purple: images

and just look at what "THEY" "GIFT"
(GIFT is GERMAN for POISON) us with;

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=cadbury%20doesn't%20own%20purple&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:pOMGgwst9TNffM:http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/438573415_1ad6b7e53b.jpg
Ms Roden doesn’t say which part of ...
(1st,what the BLOODY hell...Ms RODEN, that's what...)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/364194294_bb32d27d6e_o.jpg
... Cuban-Chinese... who doesn't ...
(umm, INTERESTING...)

http://specialstuff.typepad.com/sugar_bunny_boulevard/images/2007/04/11/b.jpg
Cut out the Cadbury eggs?
(then the 3rd image, and ONLY Cadbury reference...but it's about EASTER Eggs, ain't it!)

http://a4.vox.com/6a00c225263de9549d00d4143415cc3c7f-500pi
I love the purple carrot and fruit ...
(finally, the ONLY 'purple', 6th image:
but JACOB is ISRAEL...and "BITES"!)

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/lego_venice__10.jpg
Impressive but the site doesn't say ...
(well, we'll leave this to tintin,
he's great at the BRIDGE and VENICE stuff!
But note, it's the 10th = 1; but it's FAKE!)

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/picture_4_7.png
Who doesn't want to read an old ...
(17th, oh come on!
Google 'outing itself' to 'those who KNOW.)

http://craftypeople.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/such-devoted-sisters.jpg
... way so it doesn’t take a genius ...
(ha, 18th;
no it takes anyone who know Holy Scripture
and the meaning of TWINS, and the SISTERS,
the second less faithful than the first)

http://jenlars.mu.nu/frank_arafat_chirac.JPG
He has a clean shot and doesn't take ...
(yes well,
for the 20th [= 2/Twin/Second Sister] and FINAL
image....
on this Google offering for
"cadbury doesn't own purple"...
but,
"They" also "GIFTED" us on the 2nd page
for that search....)

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=cadbury+doesn%27t+own+purple&svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20

Have FUN GUYS...
NO CADBURY or PURPLE at all on this one,
but image 4, 6 & 8should peek your interest...

http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/graceland_book.jpg
It doesn't look like I can stretch ...

[vera susa]

OOPS, seems I've upset Google...
do you count 11 AND 12 images above?

I don't, but then these are a "Little Darts' "They" shoot at us,
no 'big thing', who cares that THE WEB won't ALLOW me to
"UNTANGLE a MESS" and edit in a working image address...
STEADFAST TRUTH SEEKERS, that's who...so, I'll try again...

Now here's another "curious" FACT
of Google's part
in spinning the WEBS of CONTROL....

cadbury doesn't own purple: images

and just look at what "THEY" "GIFT"
(GIFT is GERMAN for POISON) us with;

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=cadbury%20doesn't%20own%20purple&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/438573415_1ad6b7e53b.jpg
Ms Roden doesn’t say which part of ...
(1st,what the BLOODY hell...Ms RODEN, that's what...)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/364194294_bb32d27d6e_o.jpg
... Cuban-Chinese... who doesn't ...
(umm, INTERESTING...)

http://specialstuff.typepad.com/sugar_bunny_boulevard/images/2007/04/11/b.jpg
Cut out the Cadbury eggs?
(then the 3rd image, and ONLY Cadbury reference...
but it's about EASTER Eggs, ain't it!)

http://a4.vox.com/6a00c225263de9549d00d4143415cc3c7f-500pi
I love the purple carrot and fruit ...
(finally, the ONLY 'purple', 6th image:
but JACOB is ISRAEL...and "BITES"!)

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/lego_venice__10.jpg
Impressive but the site doesn't say ...
(well, we'll leave this to tintin,
he's great at the BRIDGE and VENICE stuff!
But note, it's the 10th = 1; but it's FAKE!)

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/picture_4_7.png
Who doesn't want to read an old ...
(17th, oh come on!
Google 'outing itself' to 'those who KNOW.)

http://craftypeople.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/such-devoted-sisters.jpg
... way so it doesn’t take a genius ...
(ha, 18th;
no it takes anyone who know Holy Scripture
and the meaning of TWINS, and the SISTERS,
the second less faithful than the first)

http://jenlars.mu.nu/frank_arafat_chirac.JPG
He has a clean shot and doesn't take ...
(yes well,
for the 20th [= 2/Twin/Second Sister] and FINAL
image....
on this Google offering for
"cadbury doesn't own purple"...
but,
"They" also "GIFTED" us on the 2nd page
for that search....)

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=cadbury+doesn%27t+own+purple&svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20

Have FUN GUYS...
NO CADBURY or PURPLE at all on this one,
but image 4, 6 & 8should peek your interest...

[vera susa]

Yep, CADBURY DOESN'T OWN PURPLE,
but unless you have a "TICKET",
as "MASTER MASONS,
ARCHITECTS & TRADESMEN" DO,
"THEY" also don't want YOU
"READING"
"THEIR PRIVATE MAIL"

images, 4, 6 & 8,
from that 2nd page...!

http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/graceland_book.jpg
It doesn't look like I can stretch ...

http://joanperry.smugmug.com/photos/33011504-S.jpg
He doesn't seem to be breathing,

http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/tolcomicsansL.jpg
It's so bad that Time Out doesn't ...

[vera susa]

So, MS. RODEN, hey....
now why "GIFT" us with that
for the first image of,
'cadbury doesn't own purple'?

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/templates/jsp/_synergy.2/images/layout/header_logo_synergy.gif
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/sda/7985/JRAI_left.gif
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1467-9655.t01-5-00009

Blackwell Synergy - J Royal Anthropological Inst, Volume 9 Issue 1 ...
At its barrier fence, he met Amo Paul Bishop Roden
(to whom he dedicates his book).
Ms Roden, camped outside the gates
with photocopied exegeses, tracts, ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1467-9655.t01-5-00009 -

Yeah, that the first Google offering for Ms Roden....
interesting,
SYMBOLISM to the yin-yang & ANTHROPOLOGY,
the STUDY OF OUR DEAD ANCESTORS,
with a "BISHOP" thrown in, which fits,
seeing as it's ONLY JESUIT "Approved"
'science' and 'education' we're ALLOWED to
ARGUE for The TRUTH with....and the last offering
on the first page of "Google Searching", 'Ms Roden'...

http://www.bpsicorp.com/logoBPSI.jpg
http://www.bpsicorp.com/principals.html

About Us

BPSI is a woman-owned company
founded by Maureen Roden
and incorporated in 1997.

BPSI was certified into the 8(a) program
of the SBA in February 2005.

BPSI specializes in providing biomedical
and social support services through
scientific staffing, clinical research,
health and science policy analysis
and program evaluation, scientific
and medical writing,
and bio-defense
and emergency preparedness.

http://www.bpsicorp.com/images/subPix3.jpg

Principals

Maureen Roden
President and CEO
BPSI

Maureen Roden is President and CEO of BPSI,
a small woman-owned business focusing on biomedical
and social support services.
Ms. Roden graduated from the University of Scranton
with a Bachelors Degree in Nursing in 1987
and from Georgetown University
with a Master of Science Degree in 1990.

Ms. Roden has 20 years of experience as a nurse working clinically
in pediatrics, oncology, and infectious diseases.

Over the course of the past 13 years,
Ms. Roden has focused primarily on
infectious diseases clinical research.

She has provided a broad range of clinical research services to
the National Institutes of Health and to the Pharmaceutical Industry.

These services have included clinical trial design and development,
study coordination, database development and monitoring,
scientific manuscript writing, primary epidemiological research,
IRB submissions and reviews, and NDA submissions.

Ms. Roden has numerous publications in infectious diseases research
and has been invited to present primary research at the
Interscience Conference of Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy.

In addition she has been invited to present at seminars on
infectious diseases at the National Cancer Institute
and the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute
at the National Institutes of Health.

----------

O.K., I don't highlight and follow up all the leads I post,
and as you can see, there are MANY 'SKELETON' KEYS,
jangling around Ms Roden and 'Cadbury doesn't own Purple',
well worth looking into, if only because it all stems from
PURPLE = GENOCIDE and goes through ANCIENT Man,
through to mans PROPHESIED 'End Time' WOES, in
this ONE LINK....MS RODEN

So lets NOT forget that 'other RODEN':
image 6 for hillary roden clinton
http://3quarksdaily.blogs.com/3quarksdaily/images/hillary_1.gif

4 & 5

http://instapundit.com/images/kerrynavalbig.jpg

and for those only 'trust' indy news....
14 = 5

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/graphics/front3.jpeg

[vera susa]

So, HUGE KUDOS to 2013,
for opening this massive can of worms for us.

And this is how TRUTH SEEKING forums SHOULD work;
folk opening and sharing UNEXPLORED leads to the
DARK 'ARTS' of DECEPTION, for ANYONE to follow up on,
(and hopefully, further share), to the best of their personal,
INDIVIDUAL interests, expertise, and means.

Because we are ALL still mortal, imperfect beings,
with personal tastes and quirks that draw our attention
AND put us to sleep, so the more individuals who 'kick in'
with different views and 'styles' of presenting what they
"SEE" and "HEAR" in THE REAL WORLD THAT IS,
FULLER, TRUER, BIG PICTURE
we'll end up
PAINTING FOR ALL TO BE EDIFIED BY.

[weregr8]

Hey thanks tintin and vera susa, having both of you resond to me is quite the compliment.

Sorry to bring up Marie Osmond again, but "friendsinthesky" was mentioning Marie being reported as a "fallen star".

Do you all know that here in America (land of idiots I agree,) that "Dancing with the Stars" has 25 million viewers? Incredible to say the least. As I watch that tape again I see Marie before the dance as she tells the judges she wants a 10, she puts a 1 and a 0 in front of her, but not like you or I would, she puts her fingers right in her eyes... as if to say,.... the eyes. WIERD

You must see this creepy show as it is driving me nuts.

Thanks again to everyone here, I think you are all brilliant! Please don't get mad at me for bringing this up again, I just can't get past the obvious B/S!!!

[vera susa]

That's fine. You can keep your guilt to yourself Lilly, but remember. The one mostly deceiving you, is yourself. Carry on.

Back ON TOPIC...yes I am true-lilly,
and still would be if that name was allowed here,
but "who" are "you", armoured saint?

Which (and indeed, how many) of the "PACK of AGENTS", who could only snipe at what they couldn't argue away, with childish, one liner, personal attacks, are "you"?

And WHY MUDDY this topic
with an ARROGANT DESIRE to TELL readers
"you" DISapprove of an Individual poster, while NOT CARING
to ADD ANYTHING to the body of The Topic of the thread?

Don't "you" trust fellow forum members to be ABLE to FORM
their OWN opinions about which posters contribute FACTUAL
information of value, or is that WHY "you" MUST ATTACK?

Scared folk WILL WAKE UP to ALL the LIES posted AS NEWS,
& "uncovered secrets" on "Truth Seeking" forums?

That's my bet.

So which of the countless NET "names" that WORK the WEB slandering
ACTUAL, INDIVIDUAL, REAL People who challenge "your" ilk's efforts
at having your "PLUCKED OUT OF THIN AIR" LIES & FANTASY STORIES believed, will I know "you" as.

Already we've had our time wasted with empty posts,
like what I'm quoting here (in an effort to give it some value as
an example of mindSET MANIPULATION) & "The Rest of The Teams"
witless one-liners like "christard" and "true-silly", but STILL,
NO SOUND COUNTER ARGUMENTS to the Volumes of REAL WORLD
EVIDENCE we've been building our case with....like, The REAL STORY
Behind WHY the old, "The Forum" was SHUT DOWN, after 'Cruise' and
I had built such a large body of evidence there, that "you lot" so miserably
failed to argue away...as usual.

Guy's it ain't called the
WORLD WIDE WEB & NET
for nothing.

That's why tintin and I can get a little SHARP at times; it's
the swords of truth we FREELY offer ALL who care to wield
them against the TANGLE of BLINDING LIES.

[weregr8]

Hey Pri01,

I loved your post, and I am not a veteran of deciphering commercials, however, not only did your post about "cadburie chocolates" not make me want to buy chocolates, it made me want to cry, it gave me chills and made me sad. I love the posts about it. In fact I love most of the posts here.

Could those of you who have personal vendettas against some of our heros, (vera susa and tintin etc.) please send them personal e-mail or respond to what you find erroneous, as to not disrupt our intellectually stimulating thread. We appreciate that.

Thanks for all the hard work everyone, we love you.

[vera susa]

Hey thanks tintin and vera susa, having both of you resond to me is quite the compliment.

Sorry to bring up Marie Osmond again, but "friendsinthesky" was mentioning Marie being reported as a "fallen star".

Do you all know that here in America (land of idiots I agree,) that "Dancing with the Stars" has 25 million viewers? Incredible to say the least. As I watch that tape again I see Marie before the dance as she tells the judges she wants a 10, she puts a 1 and a 0 in front of her, but not like you or I would, she puts her fingers right in her eyes... as if to say,.... the eyes. WIERD

You must see this creepy show as it is driving me nuts.

Thanks again to everyone here, I think you are all brilliant! Please don't get mad at me for bringing this up again, I just can't get past the obvious B/S!!!

Now how can we get mad at you for HAVING EYES THAT SEE
and SHARING THE VIEW...none of us can be everywhere at once,
so we need observations from all areas, ESPECIALLY shows like that
that "COMMAND" so many viewers, even when we all KNOW what
BS they are....yet, ONLY BS to those who don't "Know The Codes".

And "DONNY & MARIE"
is a whopping big INTERNATIONAL Billboard.

Now where as most see an image like;

http://support.axiolearning.org/images/kyc/desktop/power_button.jpg

as representing
'The All seeing Eye' of the Occult
and 'reptilians',
this 'old fart', like most pre-PC mature folk,
have another image brought to mind
because of how often we argued about
how we're supposed to recognize
what it DOES ACTUALLY represent;

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2019481/2/istockphoto_2019481_close_up_of_on_off_button.jpg

And it was the "FEMALE Component"
of that 'Billboard',
showing the ON/OFF SYMBOL
(EYE/CIRCLE CUT THROUGH with a LINE),
making it hard for me to think beyond
that hillary RODEN clinton post.

Now think of the BASIC SUPPLIES
and MEDICAL CARE Lines
that were
"CUT OFF" after KATRINA,
and combine that with
the RODEN WOMEN
associated with
WAR and MEDIAL/BIOLOGICAL EMERGENCY.....
stir in a little,
"saw him as a STAR FALLING FROM heaven"....


Keep it up wereGr8.
No ONE MAN ever 'discovered and revealed' anything.
There was always the 'Foundation Layers', 'Product Makers'....
and unknown & forgotten lab 'assistants'
(who often do all the REAL WORK
but don't have the "RIGHT TICKETS")
that combine to bring us anything new.

And many of those 'assistants',
go on to "BUY THE COMPANY"!

[vera susa]

Here we go, still on the CADBURY theme,
a 7 year old movie with one of my
FAVOURITE ACTORS

(which as those who know me, like 'Cruise' know,
doesn't mean I'm BLIND to "Their" part
in The Great Deception,
it just means I'm not so petty
as to deny the ACTUAL TALENTS they have),

that in itself covers so many of the SECRETS that
"They" try to keep from the 'profane' while
sharing with each other, in CODE.

PARTICULARLY the SOUTH AMERICA connection.

But that 'laggy bug' is back, so I'll ask tintin to
"BREAK IT OPEN" for us, with his great skill at
'cutting the fat' and presenting
the 'bones of contention', for us to gnaw on
'til we reach the 'marrow'.

Not that I'm saying others here won't SEE
KEY meanings, straight up, and be able to
pick out those fine threads, in fact I hope others
do join in this 'autopsy' of a major 'body' of work.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Chocolat_sheet.jpg