Depression hitting hard again.

[joy division]

Yes, this sickness caused by society and the lack of a man knowing his true place in the world today among many other things has come over me again. Feels really severe this time and i think my body/mind has closed it seklf off again and i find it very hard just to talk to someone.

[rossus]

not sure if it could be of help but perhaps you should take a look at this course in happiness (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/ACourseInHappinessSabine/HappinessCover.htm)

[chris]

Fasting and retaining ones mojo is a very good way to come out of depression:)

[limelady]

So sorry to hear you are not doing so well joy division.

I wonder if you saw THIS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11570&highlight=depression) thread last week?
There is some very good advice on here that might help you.

[majicdragon]

I think I feel similarly. I've cleaned my room down to the three foot level, and will make it to the floor by tomorrow, but I've been depressed for over a week now.

I'm also torn.

[joy division]

thanx guys.

I have tried in the past st johns wart and have been on prozac in the past buty they just made my mind out of control and i started drinking very heavily on the prozac.

At the start of this year i went 3 - 4 months without a drink but then decided to start again and i am slipping back into my old ways. I think today i am going to stop drinking again as i feel this does not help. And i mean social drinking as i dont drink at home at all.

[majicdragon]

You've decided to be one of the good guys. That's what I feel toward you. So, you're on a team that seems to be loosing. Here on the boards you post important things, but nobody responds unless they have an opposing view. At home it's much the same, but that is more due to the fact that no-one shares your view... your core belief. And in these times now that people are becoming familiar with the truth, they acknowledge it, but it is not Joyous. They wish you were wrong and could maybe just change the subject.

Love while you can.

Forgive yourself for not being able to live up to your perfect image.

I'm not perfect. In fact, I haven't got a hope in hell save for a tiny mustard-seed sized faith that comes and goes.

You have the same faith. It comes and goes. I think it comes when you need it most.

[majicdragon]

I don't know everything. I don't know how you feel. I just know if you're depressed, that makes two of us. Watch, I'll pray for us... See if it makes you feel better... I think it will work hey, even if you don't believe it, I do.

Law of intention.

[freespark]

Sometimes i hate living within the framework that has been created for us so much i just wanna give up.

The more i read about all this stuff (going on 10 years now) the angrier i get and end up just burying my head in the sand and ignoring the shit that is going on (don't listen to any mainstream news whatsoever if i can help it).

I get very down sometimes and when i am not is use humour to keep my spririts up. I try not to get involved in the crap they have created so hence end up being a hermit most if the time lost in my own little world watching DVD's and playing PC games. Living in my own little dreamworld.

This will not solve my problem though and i know that i will have to face it one day in order to change it. At this point though i just fucking can't be bothered.

I wouldn't call it depression though it's more of like a 'couldn't be bothered' kind of a funk...i guess what i am trying to say is i don't feel extreme depression as perhaps you do...but this shit effects us all because it's just so fucking wrong.

Chin up mate...i hope you get better! ;)

[Anders Lindman]

Think about the future, your future. How does it feel? Is there a sense of lightness, of overflowing joy and excitement? Or does thinking about the future make you feel totally like shit, with a heaviness and burden of having to struggle for the rest of your life, a life where you will grow older and sicker by the day and then wither away and die?

Depression happens when your mind thinks that your future will be grim.

Remedy those thoughts with other grim thoughts. Start a war within your own mind where all fear is swiftly dealt with, crushed before it even has the possibility to rise its terrible head.

Today's exercise is this: Think about the future and on purpose exaggerate all your worries, fears and burdensome thoughts to the point where they become ridiculous beyond recognition.

[freespark]

Think about the future, your future. How does it feel? Is there a sense of lightness, of overflowing joy and excitement? Or does thinking about the future make you feel totally like shit, with a heaviness and burden of having to struggle for the rest of your life, a life where you will grow older and sicker by the day and then wither away and die?

Depression happens when your mind thinks that your future will be grim.

Remedy those thoughts with other grim thoughts. Start a war within your own mind where all fear is swiftly dealt with, crushed before it even has the possibility to rise its terrible head.

Today's exercise is this: Think about the future and on purpose exaggerate all your worries, fears and burdensome thoughts to the point where they become ridiculous beyond recognition.

Good point this....and great post Anders. ;)

And also another thought i just had...if what is written in bold above is true (it is) why worry about something that has never even happened yet!! :)

[thirdwave]

Yes, this sickness caused by society and the lack of a man knowing his true place in the world today among many other things has come over me again. Feels really severe this time and i think my body/mind has closed it seklf off again and i find it very hard just to talk to someone.


sometimes if you are rally down it shows that you might actually be quite healthy.... there is Shit going on and many times we as individuals are to blame.... and sometimes we see how shit we are and it feels stuck...like there is nothing we can do about it...

when the reality is you probably feel like shit because you are doing something about it....

Ask a heroin addict if he is happy while going through cold turkey.... of course not! ..he is in hell!, but he is doing the right think , the thing that is better for him and the people around him...
hang in there and remeber life's a journey not a destination",

"its amazing, with a blink of an eye you finally see the light"

[Anders Lindman]

Good point this....and great post Anders. ;)

And also another thought i just had...if what is written in bold above is true (it is) why worry about something that has never even happened yet!! :)

The human mind is always seeking to secure its own future. Since this can be an overwhelming task, depression can easily set in. Ignoring the future will only reinforce the already existing conflict between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. The subconscious is as I understand it, very much related to the heart. The mind must balance brain, heart and body. Consciousness must shine from Spirit and into the world of form in a balanced way.

[limelady]

Depression can be a wretched thing.....as we attempt to change for the better, we look round and see many things changing for the worse. It can be hell some days just trying to rise above it all.

But as I mentioned on the other thread I linked to in my earlier post, there are times when it can really help to elevate our mood by using certain natural substances that are known to change our brain chemistry. When we do this, it feels like we are in the drivers seat again, and then we can start to change the things in our life (often just our thoughts) that are taking us down the path of depression.

My heart goes out to you guys.....I have had bouts of depression myself and I know how it can affect one's quality of life, but nowadays full-blown depression is rare for me because I feel the signs well before the depression sets in, and I take a weeks worth of supplements (I spoke of them on the other thread) and get swiftly back in the drivers seat. It really does work, and I am not only speaking from personal experience - I have had a lot of feedback from people who have been amazed at how quickly they felt SO better after taking a few supplements for a time. Often times there are physical reasons such as sub-clinical nutritional deficiencies which are causing people to feel depressed. Brain chemicals only need to become out of whack slightly, and chronic depression can be the result. No need to suffer if you don't have to......feeling joy is so much better :)

All the best to all of you who are feeling down at the moment....if there's anything further I can do to help any of you, please don't hesitate to PM me.