So many cameras so few tapes

[ultima1]

With all the camersa why haven't we seen what happned at the Pentagon?

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/402.jpg?t=1275836292

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/annex1.jpg?t=1275836342

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/annex2.jpg?t=1275836376

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/pcam1.jpg?t=1275836422

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/pcam2.jpg?t=1275836468

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/sher1.jpg?t=1275836507

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1275836587

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/408.jpg?t=1275836655

Also i can understand why videos were taken by why were some cameras removed?

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/citgo1.jpg?t=1275836551

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/sher2.jpg?t=1275836627

[imaginarysoul]

Bit of a silly question is it not?

[zetetic0void]

The Pentagon has a ton of cameras keeping eye on it's exterior and also a ton of cameras keeping watch of the interior. Then there are the tons of cameras around the area in various businesses.

To suggest all we get to see is a few pathetic choppy frames showing "some thing" is unbelievable.


If there's nothing to hide, why not show us footage from the dozens of films?

[phildee3]

If there's nothing to hide, why not show us footage from the dozens of films?



Who says there's nothing to hide?

[phildee3]

With all the camersa why haven't we seen what happned at the Pentagon?


http://www.thought2action.net/class%20hands%20up.jpg

[camreeno]

They were confiscated by the FBI because it was an inside job.

[dude111]

Bit of a silly question is it not?YES IT IS A VERY SILLY QUESTION!!!!

ITS APPARANT WHY THEY TOOK THE FOOTAGE!! (Whats sad is no one made a backup of it before it was taken)

[ultima1]

I still cannot understand why cameras were removed.

Unless they were pointed at places they were not supposed to see.

[camreeno]

I still cannot understand why cameras were removed.

Unless they were pointed at places they were not supposed to see.I think they might have done it to prevent people from seeing the cameras and wondering "Hey if these cameras were in view of the Pentagon when it got hit then where is the footage". They took the cameras down so people don't see the discrepancy and publicize it.

[ultima1]

I think they might have done it to prevent people from seeing the cameras and wondering "Hey if these cameras were in view of the Pentagon when it got hit then where is the footage". They took the cameras down so people don't see the discrepancy and publicize it.

That does not sound like a very good reason to remove cameras. Like at the gas station, why remove some cameras but leave others?

Also still waiting on a good answer as to why we cannot see or get more footage from all of the cameras.

[imaginarysoul]

That does not sound like a very good reason to remove cameras. Like at the gas station, why remove some cameras but leave others?

Also still waiting on a good answer as to why we cannot see or get more footage from all of the cameras.

Thats a perfectly good explanation as to why they removed certain camera's.

Do you know anything about 9/11?

Do you really need to be told why you haven't seen footage of this supposed "terrorist attack"?

[ultima1]

Do you know anything about 9/11?


No, its not a good reason.

I know more about 9/11 then most people on here combined.

I have been doing research for years and have filed FOIA request and also sent e-mails.

What have you done to find out about what happened on 9/11?

[imaginarysoul]

I know more abuot 9/11 then most people on here combined.

I have been doing research for years and have filed FOIA request and sent e-mails.

What have you done to find out about what happened on 9/11?

Then how can you not know why they won't show any footage when there was evidently so much collected?
Isn't it obvious enough, especially considering you've supposedly done so much research...

I didn't claim to know even anything of 9/11, I daresay I know less than most due to my lack of reasearch... Do you feel better? You've won the "i've done the most research on 9/11" contest! Yay go you!

:rolleyes:

[ultima1]

Then how can you not know why they won't show any footage when there was evidently so much collected?
Isn't it obvious enough, especially considering you've supposedly done so much research...

Why can't we see the videos?

I mean if there is nothing releted to national security or nothing to hide then we should be able to see the footage at least through FOIA request.

[imaginarysoul]

Why can't we see the videos?

I mean if there is nothing releted to national security or nothing to hide then we should be able to see the footage at least through FOIA request.

Because they want you to believe in their imaginary terrorist attack...
They're not going to show you footage of a plane not hitting the pentagon and then keep at this "terrorism" excuse.
You might as well ask them how much thermite was used in bringing down the WTC.

[ultima1]

Because they want you to believe in their imaginary terrorist attack...
They're not going to show you footage of a plane not hitting the pentagon and then keep at this "terrorism" excuse.
You might as well ask them how much thermite was used in bringing down the WTC.

Exactly my point, we should be able to see the videos.

Funny how we can find out basic information on all other aviation crime scenes but almost nothing on the 9/11 crime scenes.

[imaginarysoul]

Exactly my point, we should be able to see the videos.

Funny how we can find out basic information on all other aviation crime scenes but almost nothing on the 9/11 crime scenes.

I'm doubtful we will ever see those videos.
From what they have released it looks like some kind of missile (i'm not too informed on weaponry and such so it could be something more specific) there was definate projection but there is no way it was a plane.

[ultima1]

I'm doubtful we will ever see those videos.
From what they have released it looks like some kind of missile (i'm not too informed on weaponry and such so it could be something more specific) there was definate projection but there is no way it was a plane.

Well as i have stated on other threads there is no way the fragile nose could have punched all the way through to the 3rd ring.

The nose is made from composite and would have been destroyed on impact.

[imaginarysoul]

Well as i have stated on other threads there is no way the fragile nose could have punched all the way through to the 3rd ring.

The nose is made from composite and would have been destroyed on impact.

Well yes, but i'm doubting that it was a plane at all.
I watched a vid on youtube and it showed the pentagon from the side and something white coming up to cause an explosion, however it was not in the shape of a plane and at no point does it look like one.

[ultima1]

Well yes, but i'm doubting that it was a plane at all.
I watched a vid on youtube and it showed the pentagon from the side and something white coming up to cause an explosion, however it was not in the shape of a plane and at no point does it look like one.

Well the security video that was released only shows a blur.

But you still have people out there who think it shows a 757, probly becasue thats what they were told

[imaginarysoul]

Well the security video that was released only shows a blur.

But you still have people out there who think it shows a 757, probly becasue thats what they were told

If you watch it zoomed in and frame by frame, try make out the shape of a plane in each frame. In my opinion it shows a point and then white smoke trailing behind, thus my reason for believing missile.

[ultima1]

If you watch it zoomed in and frame by frame, try make out the shape of a plane in each frame. In my opinion it shows a point and then white smoke trailing behind, thus my reason for believing missile.

Well like i have stated without the majority of evidence and official reports being released we really do not know what happened that day.

[imaginarysoul]

Well like i have stated without the majority of evidence and official reports being released we really do not know what happened that day.

Indeed.
An interesting suggestion my friend made was that after 50 years it becomes public information.
I'm of the opinion that they will still conceal 9/11 information however, but it would be easier to piece together, they'd have to let something slip.

[ultima1]

Indeed.
An interesting suggestion my friend made was that after 50 years it becomes public information.
I'm of the opinion that they will still conceal 9/11 information however, but it would be easier to piece together, they'd have to let something slip.

Well i think if people would file FOIA requests and e-mail companies that were there then there might be something released just to try to keep people quiet.

The biggest problem i have it it seems that anyone who questions what happened that day is attacked and insulted.

[callumbs2]

they removed them so no one could know the truth. like the few pictures the government gave us from the pentagon were just pictures of an explosion and no plane in any of them!

[pri01]

Who says there's nothing to hide?

How can you hide 'nothing'?

[phildee3]

How can you hide 'nothing'?

Ask zetetic0void

[camreeno]

That does not sound like a very good reason to remove cameras. Like at the gas station, why remove some cameras but leave others?

Also still waiting on a good answer as to why we cannot see or get more footage from all of the cameras.I never suggested it was a good answer, but it's just my hunch.

Can we agree the Pentagon and Federal Government have something to do with this? If so then there's a good possibility they were taken down to prevent footage from being taken from places they don't want you to see. They had that Pentagon "shooter" earlier this year, so who knows, that might have something to do with it.

[dude111]

they removed them so no one could know the truth. like the few pictures the government gave us from the pentagon were just pictures of an explosion and no plane in any of them!Exactly!!!!

Wasnt anything surprising seeing the crap they released,kind of expected it!

Well the security video that was released only shows a blur.

But you still have people out there who think it shows a 757, probly becasue thats what they were toldWell there are more idiots in this country than people who have WOKEN UP,and the footage was enough to keep them on the path they want them on...

I think they might have done it to prevent people from seeing the cameras and wondering "Hey if these cameras were in view of the Pentagon when it got hit then where is the footage". They took the cameras down so people don't see the discrepancy and publicize it.Exactly the case!!!!!

WHY DIDNT ANYONE SAVE THE FOOTAGE ON A BACKUP BEFORE THEY CAME IN AND TOOK IT THOUGH??

[camreeno]

Exactly!!!!

Wasnt anything surprising seeing the crap they released,kind of expected it!

Well there are more idiots in this country than people who have WOKEN UP,and the footage was enough to keep them on the path they want them on...

Exactly the case!!!!!

WHY DIDNT ANYONE SAVE THE FOOTAGE ON A BACKUP BEFORE THEY CAME IN AND TOOK IT THOUGH??Maybe the Federal Government dumbed down everyone in the surrounding vicinity that that just didn't cross their mind. :D

[ultima1]

WHY DIDNT ANYONE SAVE THE FOOTAGE ON A BACKUP BEFORE THEY CAME IN AND TOOK IT THOUGH??

Well there supposidly was a report that security at one of the places was watching the video from their camera when the FBI came in and confiscated the tape.

[dude111]

Well then THAT SECURITY COMPANY SHOULD GO PUBLIC SAYING IT WASNT A PLANE THEY SAW IN THE FOOTAGE!! (I guess they are too scared to)

[ultima1]

Well then THAT SECURITY COMPANY SHOULD GO PUBLIC SAYING IT WASNT A PLANE THEY SAW IN THE FOOTAGE!! (I guess they are too scared to)

Well we do not know if it was a plane or what kind of plane. I am sure the security people were told not to talk about it.

[imaginarysoul]

Well we do not know if it was a plane or what kind of plane. I am sure the security people were told not to talk about it.

Or they mysteriously disappeared...

Vids i've seen have been too difficult to decifer a set shape... damn low quality footage!

[ultima1]

Or they mysteriously disappeared...

Vids i've seen have been too difficult to decifer a set shape... damn low quality footage!

Yes, i do not know why they will not release the majority of the evidence even through FOIA requests.

[imaginarysoul]

Yes, i do not know why they will not release the majority of the evidence even through FOIA requests.

We've been over this

Because they want you to believe in their imaginary terrorist attack...
They're not going to show you footage of a plane not hitting the pentagon and then keep at this "terrorism" excuse.
You might as well ask them how much thermite was used in bringing down the WTC.

[ultima1]

We've been over this

Thats not a very good reason. And an even worse one for a FOIA request.

[imaginarysoul]

Thats not a very good reason. And an even worse one for a FOIA request.

What reason do you expect there to be?

"Oh, we just thought it would upset you to see the footage"

[ultima1]

What reason do you expect there to be?

"Oh, we just thought it would upset you to see the footage"

No a real, honest answer. If the videos do not show anything of national security or are not being used in a trial then they should have a reason under the rules of FOIA why they cannot be released and prove it.

[imaginarysoul]

No a real, honest answer. If the videos do not show anything of national security or are not being used in a trial then they should have a reason under the rules of FOIA why they cannot be released and prove it.

Well yes, thats all well and good and beckons an answer, but those who are to answer your questions are not all about honesty and such.

[ultima1]

Well yes, thats all well and good and beckons an answer, but those who are to answer your questions are not all about honesty and such.

Well i guess thats why there are a lot of lawsuits filed.

I mean i e-mailed a top constuction company that was at ground zero asking questions and they responded that they could not answer my questions due to the 9/11 lawsuits.

[imaginarysoul]

Well i guess thats why there are a lot of lawsuits filed.

I mean i e-mailed a top constuction company that was at ground zero asking questions and they responded that they could not answer my questions due to the 9/11 lawsuits.

I trust that justice will prevail in time, the people will know the truth one day.

[ultima1]

I trust that justice will prevail in time, the people will know the truth one day.

Yes, i jsut hope it does take decades like JFK.

[dude111]

I just cant believe that NOT ONE PERSON WAS ABLE TO SNEAK A COPY OF THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE OUT BEFORE THEY CAME IN AND GOT IT!!

[3stepsahead]

seeing the real planers shy this part of the holy miracle, id like to give a message from them.

Dont waste your time weve already concluded planes were real, therefore the terrorist are real and the official story is real. anything not in line of the official story is quite frankly small and brown strawmen wich also are not fake.

request for thread deletion sent.

[ultima1]

Dont waste your time weve already concluded planes were real, therefore the terrorist are real and the official story is real. anything not in line of the official story is quite frankly small and brown strawmen wich also are not fake.

So funny, since for one this is not a no planer thread, and you must accept the fact that most of the evidence and the official FBI reports have not been released.

Also the people on the 9/11 commission have stated that they did not have enough time or money to do a proper investigation. You always just believe what the media tells you?

I have facts and evidence that show reasonable doubt in the official story that would hold up in court.

[3stepsahead]

what do you mean, have you seen a plane at the pentagon? if not i would kindly propose this being as no plane as it gets.

hence why it is shunned by the loudspeakers...:o

[ultima1]

what do you mean, have you seen a plane at the pentagon? if not i would kindly propose this being as no plane as it gets.

No, There has been no video or photograhic evidence showing what hit the Pentagon. This is a thread about the lack of evidence such as the tapes from all the cameras, nothing about no planes has been stated please stay on topic or be reported to the mods.

[stannrodd]

So funny, since for one this is not a no planer thread, and you must accept the fact that most of the evidence and the official FBI reports have not been released.

Also the people on the 9/11 commission have stated that they did not have enough time or money to do a proper investigation. You always just believe what the media tells you?

I have facts and evidence that show reasonable doubt in the official story that would hold up in court.

Also we must bear in mind that the 9/11 Omission of Enquiry was directed to NOT question the Official Story but to investigate using that story .. and the fact that Bush and Cheney would not appear individually but as a twosome is a bit cosy in terms of an impartial enquiry.

Weird shit in my book.

Stann

[noewhan]

An interesting read:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/124446-New-Doctored-Video-of-Pentagon-Attack-Release-Confirms-Boeing-Was-Not-Involved

[ultima1]

An interesting read:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/124446-New-Doctored-Video-of-Pentagon-Attack-Release-Confirms-Boeing-Was-Not-Involved

Found this document.
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/FBI_Document.jpg?t=1276942889

[ultima1]

Still waiting for a good reason we have not seen a actual photo or video of what hit the Pentagon.

[hadabusa]

well, they'd show something ppl better dont see.


the wtc footage was shown alot.

pentagon, basically nothing.


theyre hiding something.