This place is turning me off

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Alright, I know what you're thinking.

Why would this place turn me off. Especially someone with over 1,000 posts. I know what you mean. But when I load the page, and see over 10 different threads about jews/israel/zionists, I mean. Ok, I understand zionists are a problem, and what Israel is doing is not fair.

But do we need so many threads about it?

I mean, how hard is it. We know the problem. Maybe we don't completely understand who's behind it, but atleast we know the problem.
The first thing MANY of us should be doing, is trying to keep the problem from happening. We know the techniques that they will use, so we can defend ourselves from that.

David was right. That guy at infowars was right. We're getting too caught up in ourselves. This is what has happened with any nation that could have been great. Scotland, America, China, just to name a few. They could have been great, but everyone with a knowledge of what's really going on, everyone at the top, were fighting amongst themselves.

Go ahead and give me the "Yeah, but they were leaders of countries! They were greedy" or "That's a totally different situation". The situation is just the same. We are people that know how to solve a problem, but instead of doing it, we're here bickering about who's behind it, and bringing up history over and over again. Yes, we have good records of history that are never taught to us, and they should. But instead of making a whole 2 pages of something you copied and pasted from the web-site you post at the bottom, why don't you just post the web-link and just give us a BRIEF DISCRIPTION of what it's talking about.

It wastes time, it wastes space, and it wastes energy. All of this.

[mynameis]

It's the BNP and nazi sympathizers trying to gain a foothold here and are dumb people with their stupid biases. Everything to them is a zionist/jewish problem, when in fact it is more of a criminal element of those societies, just like nazis of their heyday. Don't get discouraged, keep fighting them. I wish the admins would.

[megafish33]

But instead of making a whole 2 pages of something you copied and pasted from the web-site you post at the bottom, why don't you just post the web-link and just give us a BRIEF DISCRIPTION of what it's talking about.


If they did that how could the uneducated see the image of the words, make a snap shot(notice how they use huge letters and colors lol) in their memory, and never question it... I mean, this isn't a mmmmaaaaaiiiinnnstream site, so it must all be truthful... all of those posts right? ;) That's probably how some think, and these are the people they're trying to attract, via David Icke's forum. Yup, it's garbage... When I first came here and I saw those Zionist threads I thought I'd compensate and compiled massive amounts of Islamic(various groups) and Jesuit conspiring. Then I thought to myself... why bother? Same shit, different pile. It doesn't excuse vile Jewish conspirators, nor will it enlighten those of other religions(at least in the format I was going to post in).

"Conspiracy" simply means breathing together... spirit is similar to breath(which is tied to our life), and both terms generally use similar(or the same) words in other languages, though English is different. Let us then conspire together to change the 'vibe' of the next generation.

Nice post man.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

The admins and mods won't because it infringes on "freedom of speech".

Secondly, this is exactly what the world would EXPECT to see coming to the forums of someone who has been labeled a nazi in the past. A bunch of people trash talking jews and israel. I'm not saying that Israel isn't doing bad things, but not everyone in Israel agrees with what it's country is doing, just like not everyone in the U.S. agrees with what Bush is doing.

[tiswas]

Well said His Lordship, what baffles me is that these Holocaust deniers and that stupid russian wanabee would come into a DAVID ICKE FORUM in the first place. I think the problem lies in the Illumanti theory - they think they are all jews.

[eternal_spirit]

Well said His Lordship, what baffles me is that these Holocaust deniers and that stupid russian wanabee would come into a DAVID ICKE FORUM in the first place. I think the problem lies in the Illumanti theory - they think they are all jews.

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We have every right to debunk many of the myths of the Holocaust, there is much more to it than you realize. Still going on about December lol. Decembers relatives where in the German camps, you know what he said they told him. There WAS No GAS CHAMBERS!

[tiswas]

But this Holoucaust was the reason of Isreal, did you know Eternal there was talk of Isreal being situated in Uganda. Some wanted a part of Germany.:eek:

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

And this is just more of the problem.
Now, we are going to argue about a fucking member!

Look, let's put it this way.
If december was really Russian or not, I don't care. However, it would not surprise me because Russians are some of the best hackers. Along the lines of the Chinnesse. (Know IT history and IT around the world to understand)

But if it's about the holocaust, fine. Make it constructive, don't start out by just claiming "JEWISH CONSPIRACY! FEAR THE JEW!" or such. Make it constructive, make it intellegent. If you're saying, don't put a symbol or somethign that represents "nationalism" next to it either! It just makes Icke, and our selves look worse.

This is what Icke was talking about. Infowars spoke about this.

All most of you have done now, is exactly what the elite want us to do. Get ourselves in to seperate groups, and fight each other. Look at history. It's happened so many times. And I know, everyone is going to say "BUT THE EVIDENCE!". Fuck you, alright? Fuck you. This is what they want. Did you ever stop and think that maybe FALSE EVIDENCE was put there in order to make sure we would get lost?
I'm not refuting it. But there's a bigger problem at hand. Yes, it matters who's causing it, but perhaps it's smarter to first STOP THE CRIME FROM HAPPENING, instead of trying to figure out who the criminal is.



-HL

[damagedbrainn]

But this Holoucaust was the reason of Isreal, did you know Eternal there was talk of Isreal being situated in Uganda. Some wanted a part of Germany.:eek:

Both the conflict in Palestinian territory as well as the concept of Zionism (the creation of a Jewish nation) began before WW2.

[tiswas]

I agree with his lordship, about not bitching about fms, but this jewish threads do go way OTT.
Jews did this wrong and so on, and yes it does give Icke a bad name.
The ADL is not as powerful as you think they are, they have not shut down any sites at all, there targets are the neo-nazi sites and the islamist sites.
And beside, if they are watching they will know that fms are taking the pi$$ out of the views of bigots.:cool:

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Look, I understand that these imaginary powers go after neo-nazi sites. But remember that THE POWER THAT BE are trying to bring a totalitarian rule, under the guise of socialism/communism/capitalism into this world. I'm not saying that socialism/communism or capitalism is entirely bad. But how they are doing it, and what their goals truely are, are a distorted versions of them. And we know this, so I don't want some socialist or communist or frisbee-tarian getting on my ass.

So, all in all. It IS A PROBLEM. I'm not telling anyone to stop posting what ever they feel. But please, some intellegence is needed in the posts. Make it very constructive.

I'm not just thinking about Icke, I'm thinking about what he said, and about us.

Remember, by their law: we are all guilty until proven innocent.

[eternal_spirit]

Okay,Hisl0rdship I can see you're POV. It's in the interest of everyone. I'll stop posting the you know what threads, but I wan't something out of this too. Stop calling me a NAZI ten times a day all you FUCKWITS on here then you got a deal.

This is a brief description of me....pacifist,( unless provoked in self defense) wan't a peacefull loving world for all... born again vegan, ( although Hitler was said to be Vegetarian :rolleyes:) musician, one time magician,

I don't think that qualifies me as a "Nazi"!

[mynameis]

Okay,Hisl0rdship I can see you're POV. It's in the interest of everyone. I'll stop posting the you know what threads, but I wan't something out of this too. Stop calling me a NAZI ten times a day all you FUCKWITS on here then you got a deal.

This is a brief description of me....pacifist,( unless provoked in self defense) wan't a peacefull loving world for all... born again vegan, ( although Hitler was said to be Vegetarian :rolleyes:) musician, one time magician,

I don't think that qualifies me as a "Nazi"!

Who's called you a nazi here, I'm curious?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I'm not calling anyone a Nazi. A nazi was a member of the German National Party. That no longer exists. I can entertain the idea of "national pride" aswell. Just remember. If nothing is what it seems, than what it isn't, it is. And what it shouldn't be, it will be. Until finally, we can reverse it to be what it should be, and what it's suppose to be.

[tiswas]

I don't think eternal is a racist, for I do talk to him and I'm a Indian sikh lady.
That flag is a WW1 flag, and evryone has got the right to feel pride in their race.
Hitler, who I defently do not like, is a very interesting character. My brother said the best book he read was 'Hitler/Stalin -parell lives'.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I should take my own advice.

I'm not saying that anyone should stop posting what they'd like to post. But please try putting it into a constructive, and intellegent fashion. That's all I'm saying. Don't make yourself come off as a paranoid, insane person. And don't argue that your info is better than another persons either.

[theentitywebsite]

i believe we have got to a point in history where we all stand up has one and say we don't care who,s to blame we just want the truth because has long has everyone is arguing about who is to blame we will never change this ride i think we should all wright in to our tv net works and demand films like zeist geist Illuminati documentary endless ufo docs spirit world etc then the mass population can start to awaken all over the world then we stop using banks we stop paying taxes we just stop playing there game until they confess and tell us the truth we are the ones who allow these people to play this game with our lives its up to us to stop it

[damagedbrainn]

I don't think eternal is a racist, for I do talk to him and I'm a Indian sikh lady.
That flag is a WW1 flag, and evryone has got the right to feel pride in their race.
Hitler, who I defently do not like, is a very interesting character. My brother said the best book he read was 'Hitler/Stalin -parell lives'.

Oh, come on. In order to qualify as a "racist" a person only needs to exhibit a strong prejudice or hatred towards one specific group, not all of them. I mean, if I just hated black people, but was fine with everyone else, I'd still be a racist.

The fact that he calls everyone who disagrees with him "a Jew" should tell you a lot about his mentality. There's a very odd double-standard going on in this forum. If I went around accusing everyone who disagreed with me of being a "coloured", the majority here would immediately assume that I hated black people. If I accused them of being a "muslim", most would automatically assume that I hated muslims. If I said, "Oh, you must be a Scot"; most would assume that I hated the Scottish.

Yet a person can come to this forum, make one post after another which places the blame for nearly everything on "the Jew", can accuse public figures of being Jewish for no apparent reason whatsoever, and can accuse every other forum member who disagrees with him of being "a Jew"....and STILL many of you are as yet undecided about whether or not this person is actually prejudice and bigoted. That's still up for debate.

There's almost like an opposite type of political correctness around here, where it is considered very taboo (and sometimes against the rules) to call somebody "anti-semitic" or a "neo-nazi" even if they clearly are. In here, it's perfectly okay to use the word "Jew" in a derogatory way by using it as an accusation and an insult, but calling somebody a "neo-nazi" is so unfair and super-mean...and calling someone a "bigot" will get you a warning from the mods. There's something really fucked-up about that.

[razed1]

this thread is very pompous

just because precious israel is being talked about, your getting tired of it,

ok so we should go back and keep talking about the situation in usa, or UK, that youll never get tired of

the only reason you have aversion against speaking out against israel, is cause of the barrage of brainwshing youve endured, and it seems it has had an affect, why dont you go chek my post in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11703&page=9

and maybe you'll see there is some substance to what these so called 'nazi sympathizers' say, as you lot call them

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I never said anything about not speaking out against Israel. I was pointing out at the time (check when this thread was made) that jsut about ever thread on teh 1st page had something to do with either Israel, "evil jews", and zionists.

If you have read my posts at all, I said that I do believe in zionists, but not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews. I believe in an elite force that sits here and controls everything. Do I believe it's their place to? I can't answer that. Do I believe it can be stopped? YES! But do I believe that sitting here, bashing each other about "you don't believe me, so fuck you you brainwashed bastard!"? NO! Sitting here argueing about who's in power does do anything.

We know what the problem is. Perhaps we don't know who the true criminals are, but atleast we've had much help from alot of people. And the best thing we can do, is stop the problem before it consumes anymore.

[eternal_spirit]

It's the BNP and nazi sympathizers trying to gain a foothold here and are dumb people with their stupid biases. Everything to them is a zionist/jewish problem, when in fact it is more of a criminal element of those societies, just like nazis of their heyday. Don't get discouraged, keep fighting them. I wish the admins would.

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READ THIS ALL OF YOU!

Mark Honigsbaum has written about the apparent link between the more extreme New Age proponents and the far-right armed militia movement in the U.S. [4] Icke's books contain multiple references to the "Illuminati," which Icke and the militia movement believe constitutes the secret government they call the "New World Order". In 1995, Honigsbaum wrote in the London Evening Standard that Combat 18, the British neo-Nazi group, was publicizing Icke's speaking tour of the UK in its internal magazine, Putsch. The magazine wrote that Icke spoke about "'the sheep' and how the 'illuminati', uses them for its own ends". [4] The story continued: "[Icke] began to talk about the big conspiracy by a group of bankers, media moguls etc. — always being clever enough not to mention what all these had in common." [4]

Icke believes that Combat 18 is a front for the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which in turn is an "Illuminati front." [14] The role of the ADL, he says, is to "brand as anti-Semitic" anyone who gets close to "the truth." [14] In ... And the Truth Shall Set You Free, he wrote: "In Britain, I am told by an extremely reliable source very close to the intelligence organisations that the "far-right" group, Combat 18, is a front for the sinister Anti-Defamation League, the United States arm of the Israeli/Rothschild secret service, Mossad. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has been operating in Britain and Europe since at least 1991 and its role is to brand as anti-Semitic anyone who is getting close to the truth of what is going on. What better way to discredit an investigator than to have a "far-Right" group like Combat 18 to praise them?" [28]

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

That was good!
That's what I'm talking about. Providing good, intellegent information, and a very objective view of why you have your point of view on such matters.

There is no way, in hell, anygroup like the the ADL could ever brand a site anti-whatever because of posts just like E_S's post just above.


But, that doesn't solve the problem of everybody fighting with each other.

[eternal_spirit]

I can find more references to confirm the ADL?ZIONIST connection to 'so called far right anti semitic groups'
like I've been trying to tell you all along!

[gremlin]

It's the BNP and nazi sympathizers trying to gain a foothold here and are dumb people with their stupid biases. Everything to them is a zionist/jewish problem, when in fact it is more of a criminal element of those societies, just like nazis of their heyday. Don't get discouraged, keep fighting them. I wish the admins would.

yes those nice admins

[damagedbrainn]

I can find more references to confirm the ADL?ZIONIST connection to 'so called far right anti semitic groups'
like I've been trying to tell you all along!

You mean other sources besides the "Jew controlled" Wikipedia you just quoted from?

[eternal_spirit]

You mean other sources besides the "Jew controlled" Wikipedia you just quoted from?

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LOl you really are a dick! You're the only one on here who denies the Wiki Jew connection.

[damagedbrainn]

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LOl you really are a dick! You're the only one on here who denies the Wiki Jew connection.

HA!

Is that true everybody?

Didn't somebody write a post awhile back about how "silence is consent" or something? Nah, nevermind.

[tinmenace]

The fact that he calls everyone who disagrees with him "a Jew"...



Not true, he's never called me a Jew, and I've giving opposing viewpoints quite a few times.

[damagedbrainn]

Not true, he's never called me a Jew, and I've giving opposing viewpoints quite a few times.





Yet he has with others, including me. So regardless, he still uses it as an insult and an accusation.

Be honest: Do you really not think that he's anti-semitic, or anti-jewish (whatever term you prefer)?

[eternal_spirit]

Yet he has with others, including me. So regardless, he still uses it as an insult and an accusation.

Be honest: Do you really not think that he's anti-semitic, or anti-jewish (whatever term you prefer)?
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Which is worse being called a Nazi which I get almost everyday or being called a Jew which is actually what some people are in reality.

Wouldn't I have a Nazi Swastika for an avatar watch old vids of Hitler's speaches and listen to Wagner's music etc etc.
You are seriously deluded and out of order with you're constant false accusations. I said weeks ago I'd discuss with you if you dropped the Nazi accusations. But you haven't stopped so from now on I'm no longer willing to debate you.

[tinmenace]

Yet he has with others, including me. So regardless, he still uses it as an insult and an accusation.

Be honest: Do you really not think that he's anti-semitic, or anti-jewish (whatever term you prefer)?

Well, since "Anti-Semitic" is a contradiction within itself, and therefor a bullshit term, I certainly won't opt for it.

So I only have one choice left? Anti-Jewish? Ok, if you say so...

Yes, I think it appears that he's Anti-Jewish, but you have to admit that he's provided a lot of information and research, and to dismiss it simply because it involves Jews would be ignorant and intellectually dishonest.

[strider]

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Which is worse being called a Nazi which I get almost everyday or being called a Jew which is actually what some people are in reality.

Wouldn't I have a Nazi Swastika for an avatar watch old vids of Hitler's speaches and listen to Wagner's music etc etc.
You are seriously deluded and out of order with you're constant false accusations. I said weeks ago I'd discuss with you if you dropped the Nazi accusations. But you haven't stopped so from now on I'm no longer willing to debate you.

Don't worry about him\her as they are purposefully trying to high jack threads..

The disrupters have learned a more sneaky way now a days :cool:

[damagedbrainn]

Don't worry about him\her as they are purposefully trying to high jack threads..

The disrupters have learned a more sneaky way now a days :cool:

Yeah, "a more sneaky way" like......posting replies....but in a sneaky way.....you like sneak the reply in there....wait, what?

[tiswas]

Eternal Spirit is not a racist, he talks to me. So Strider everyone is an individual, and I heard of more anti-semitism before.
My aunt, who I have befriend and is an Afghan thinks Mossad did 9/11.:eek:

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I say again.

Thank you Enternal_Spirit.. But it doesn't solve the problem of us fighting ammongest each other..

[tinmenace]

Don't worry about him\her as they are purposefully trying to high jack threads..

The disrupters have learned a more sneaky way now a days :cool:

They THINK they're sneaky and clever, but sooner or later it comes crashing in for them. It's like watching a minefield of implosions.

[damagedbrainn]

Well, since "Anti-Semitic" is a contradiction within itself, and therefor a bullshit term, I certainly won't opt for it.

So I only have one choice left? Anti-Jewish? Ok, if you say so...

Yes, I think it appears that he's Anti-Jewish, but you have to admit that he's provided a lot of information and research, and to dismiss it simply because it involves Jews would be ignorant and intellectually dishonest.


I just don't understand why you and so many others feel so obligated to apologize for him or go around and pretend that he isn't anti-jewish, like it just didn't happen....when you are so quick to be judgmental and accusatory towards others. I mean, it's taken THIS long and this many examples just to have one of the more prominent members of this forum to explicitly admit that he's anti-jewish. Yet you'll accuse people of being "brainwashed", less-enlightened, or even an agent (ONE OF THEM) in a second, without hesitation, let alone an intelligent or rational reason.

[tinmenace]

I just don't understand why you and so many others feel so obligated to apologize for him or go around and pretend that he isn't anti-jewish, like it just didn't happen....when you are so quick to be judgmental and accusatory towards others. I mean, it's taken THIS long and this many examples just to have one of the more prominent members of this forum to explicitly admit that he's anti-jewish. Yet you'll accuse people of being "brainwashed", less-enlightened, or even an agent (ONE OF THEM) in a second, without hesitation, let alone an intelligent or rational reason.

Are you suggesting that the information he has posted, is all based on lies and that he's simply being malicious toward Jewish people?

[damagedbrainn]

Are you suggesting that the information he has posted, is all based on lies and that he's simply being malicious toward Jewish people?





Mostly lies with some small morsels of twisted truth, as well as a lot of strawmen. And yes, he has been malicious towards the Jewish people. Are you fucking blind?

[tinmenace]

Mostly lies with some small morsels of twisted truth, as well as a lot of strawmen. And yes, he has been malicious towards the Jewish people. Are you fucking blind?

Which parts were lies? Please be specific so that we can all learn from this. State your sources and not just your opinion, please.

[strider]

Which parts were lies? Please be specific so that we can all learn from this. State your sources and not just your opinion, please.





This is where it all goes quiet :D

[tinmenace]

This is where it all goes quiet :D

Hmm, looks like you called it!

[damagedbrainn]

Which parts were lies? Please be specific so that we can all learn from this. State your sources and not just your opinion, please.





http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11930

So you believe that Wikipedia is owned by Jews? That Jews regularly sacrifice gentile children as a normal part of their religous practice? That it's the white British people who have suffered more than any other group in history....more than Native Americans, more than Africans, more than Jews, more than anyone else? Do you believe that only about 270,000 Jews died during WW2, and 98% of those were from "natural causes"? Because that is the sort of nonsense that he has been posting. You're either intentionally in denial or you have your head up your ass and haven't been paying attention.

But no, you want ME to do all the work and cure you of your willful ignorance and sycophantic, apologist (and baffling) attitude. Get off your ass and educate yourself....it will empower you and make you far less gullible and less susceptible to ignorant charlatans.

[eternal_spirit]

you're full of shit damagebrainn

[damagedbrainn]

you're full of shit damagebrainn

So you haven't been saying those things in this forum? Because I definitely could point out where you have.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

You know people. This "holier than thou" bullshit isn't going to fly for long. This thread will be closed..

But, thanks for providing a good example to the title of my thread..

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11930

So you believe that Wikipedia is owned by Jews? That Jews regularly sacrifice gentile children as a normal part of their religous practice? That it's the white British people who have suffered more than any other group in history....more than Native Americans, more than Africans, more than Jews, more than anyone else? Do you believe that only about 270,000 Jews died during WW2, and 98% of those were from "natural causes"? Because that is the sort of nonsense that he has been posting. You're either intentionally in denial or you have your head up your ass and haven't been paying attention.

But no, you want ME to do all the work and cure you of your willful ignorance and sycophantic, apologist (and baffling) attitude. Get off your ass and educate yourself....it will empower you and make you far less gullible and less susceptible to ignorant charlatans.
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Look the wiki thread is a done deal. And no I've not said it's normal for all Jews to do sacrafice. But you can't accept that some do ( too much for you're small brain to accept ) You seem to think all Jews are some how free from sin:rolleyes: Tell that to the Palestinians. ( But you only get upset if it's Jew who suffer or blacks etc you are fucking sad) And you constantly calling me a Nazi I suspect you are a Jew... I've said it's bad how other races have suffered.

The British have suffered and most of us live in poverty, one reason is we fight other peoples wars for them. Then the mostly Jewish owned bankers profit from this just like when we liberated them from the Nazis. The USA and the Brits have only just or are still paying interest on this war money to the Bankers. And now with the money for the nuclear weapons in Israel and the cost of the Iraqu war the UK and the USA economy may end up in recession thanks to the Zionists.

Those figure about the Holowcust are the official Red Cross documents which are relevant to the Holowcust revision thread. ( 98% may well have died form natural causes how do you know they didn't? )

[tiswas]

Look his lordship, this place turns me off cos it is a fansite for the rubbish views of dondaz. He calls everyone left, right and centre a troll.
Wow wee dondaz is speaking, get the popcorn and watch his movies.
His lordship everyone are individuals.

[joss classey]

there is an abundance of fucking neo-nazis on this forum

[joss classey]

Look his lordship, this place turns me off cos it is a fansite for the rubbish views of dondaz. He calls everyone left, right and centre a troll.
Wow wee dondaz is speaking, get the popcorn and watch his movies.
His lordship everyone are individuals.

and frankly you're just another shit stirrer

[eternal_spirit]

there is an abundance of fucking neo-nazis on this forum
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You haven't a clue what you're saying.

[eternal_spirit]

there is an abundance of fucking neo-nazis on this forum

Did you not get the point about the Icke quote these so called neo nazi groups are formed by the fucking ADL! Jeez.
Show me how the Jews are suffering at the hands of these so calle neo nazi? ( which don't exist)

[eternal_spirit]

It's beyond me how people on here can't follow a basic trick and figure out a simple conspiracy

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=161306#post161306

[joss classey]

Did you not get the point about the Icke quote these so called neo nazi groups are formed by the fucking ADL! Jeez.
Show me how the Jews are suffering at the hands of these so calle neo nazi? ( which don't exist)

mate i didn't call you a neo-nazi

it's interesting though that you stand up when i mention it

[eternal_spirit]

mate i didn't call you a neo-nazi

it's interesting though that you stand up when i mention it
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The second line is possible proof you think I am. I point out the hypocrisy of some Jews and show what bad they do and have done, so in some peoples minds I must be a Nazi LOL.

If you'd been called this almost everyday on here, wouldn't you be pissed off?

[tiswas]

his lordship, if this site turns you off. Switch it off then and be thankful you don't listen to people feeling victimized by the police. But don't let the idiots drive you out.

[mountain]

It amuses me that no one has considered that this so-called Zionist group are not Jewish at all, but rather in a satanic way twisting the religion around to be very negative, just like the so-called Christian leaders. They are abusing the Jewish faith, and making the REAL JEws look very bad in the publifc eye, and most of you still fall for that!

Please, learn to distinguish the difference between a JEW and a ZIONIST, before posting such ridiculous bigoted nonsense!!

[mountain]

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The second line is possible proof you think I am. I point out the hypocrisy of some Jews and show what bad they do and have done, so in some peoples minds I must be a Nazi LOL.

If you'd been called this almost everyday on here, wouldn't you be pissed off?

He has a point. You did respond like you felt as if he were referring to you.

[eternal_spirit]

He has a point. You did respond like you felt as if he were referring to you.
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Yes well this proves my point again. How are the Jewish people suffering today?

[mountain]

I am sure that there are plenty of Jews visiting this forum, and no one thinks this could be totally offensive to them??

I am a non-JEw and when I first came to this site, I noticed alot of rascism against Jews, Latinos and blacks and I cannot believe the posters of these comments have not been banned! That makes me wonder....

[anoninnyc]

The admins and mods won't because it infringes on "freedom of speech".

Secondly, this is exactly what the world would EXPECT to see coming to the forums of someone who has been labeled a nazi in the past. A bunch of people trash talking jews and israel. I'm not saying that Israel isn't doing bad things, but not everyone in Israel agrees with what it's country is doing, just like not everyone in the U.S. agrees with what Bush is doing.

Thank you for that. I am American and speak English with a heavy American accent. When traveling I often have to explain that I am originally from Iran just to shut them up and stop the lecture about how evil Bush is. Only small minds are defined by their race or ethnicity or even nationality. And yes, the elites in the USA ARE evil. But guess what? So are the elites in Iran, Israel, you name it....... I do not agree with Zionism or Israel. However I have Jewish friends and do not judge individuals based upon what the elites in their nations do. Otherwise I would have to be judged by that same criterion, and Bush and Ahmadenijad both have terrible records.

[mr jones]

if a jew calls himself a jew and he is a jew then when someone else calls him a jew it isnt derogatory. (note i said 'A Jew' and not 'The Jew')
its not like the word Nigger where we can say Nigger but no-one else can.
or is it?:confused:
anyway, if Zionist occupied Governments from Britain, Europe and USA Blindly support Isreal's persecution and displacement of palastinians and arab Isreali's, they deserve to be exposed for the Terrorists they are.
i'm talking about all Zionist occupied Governments. i'm not call anyone 'The Jew'

[joss classey]

i think it best to remove the label and replace it with 'people'

[mr jones]

i dont think its a bad thing to focus on Isreal and the Zionist Occupied Governments of Europe and USA.

not everyone agrees with their own governments but that doesnt change the
fact that they're getting involved in illegal wars

[eternal_spirit]

I am sure that there are plenty of Jews visiting this forum, and no one thinks this could be totally offensive to them??

I am a non-JEw and when I first came to this site, I noticed alot of rascism against Jews, Latinos and blacks and I cannot believe the posters of these comments have not been banned! That makes me wonder....

..........

So you didn't answer the question how are Jews being persecuted today? Do you know what they are doing to the Palestinian children? Where is all this racism towards latinos blacks?

[razed1]

ppl who are shocked to even see the word 'jew' are just reacting becuase of the years of brainwashing by society, and politically correctness


these ppl need to realize they are just victims themselves, and wont realize the truth of the matter

it isnt just as simple as , "only the bad jews are zionsists, now lets forget about them and israel, cause weve figured it out"

israel should be the MAIN focus of everyones attention, the agenda of the lummies, relies heavily on the state of israel being able to be armed and ready for invasion in the middle east

and all the media propaganda in north america and europe wont change this sad fact of REALITY

shame on you ppl :mad: who cower in politically correct camps, who dont look at all the facts of the situation, its not as easy as black and white

[mountain]

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So you didn't answer the question how are Jews being persecuted today? Do you know what they are doing to the Palestinian children? Where is all this racism towards latinos blacks?

When I first visited this site, which was about 5 years ago, witnessed plenty of rascist comments from various fms.

Anyway, like I said before, there are those calling themselves Jews, Christians, Muslims and are exploiting their beliefs behind closed doors with the reverse usage of magic and symbols. This is NOT a Jewish run Illuminati, and others should realise this is hardly the case. Most Zionist Jews are of white, European ancestry, and have no blood connections to the Middle East what-so-ever. Their aim is to have total control of that region for various reasons important to their agenda. There are many other non-Jewish groups that have the same agenda.

[razed1]

When I first visited this site, which was about 5 years ago, witnessed plenty of rascist comments from various fms.

Anyway, like I said before, there are those calling themselves Jews, Christians, Muslims and are exploiting their beliefs behind closed doors with the reverse usage of magic and symbols. This is NOT a Jewish run Illuminati, and others should realise this is hardly the case. Most Zionist Jews are of white, European ancestry, and have no blood connections to the Middle East what-so-ever. Their aim is to have total control of that region for various reasons important to their agenda. There are many other non-Jewish groups that have the same agenda.

right, so do you think that israel should exist?

[herebynightfall]

i think it best to remove the label and replace it with 'people'

Yeah man.

But that goes for anybody really.

There just happens to be so much division in this world and so many
false views that were implanted into our ancestors, ages ago.
and sadly has been passed on to still exist today.

And I do call Judaism a false view, as I would ANY set religion with unchangable views.

It sucks that these people believe in chosen ones and almighty figures..
it practically shoves the caste system down your throat..
and tops it off with whipped cream that they call equality and values.

sorry i'm ranting.
i find it hard not to.. when people fall into the game of religion..

anyway..

people've been talking about common goals lately.
i say that we start working on them creatively and as efficiently as possible.
not meaning rush ourselves trying to come up with a few.. but.. get the snowball rolling

[tinmenace]

Mountain, that avatar is one of the nicest you've ever worn. I really love it. I also liked the pink winged one. Nice!

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/aamountainsavatar.jpg

[damagedbrainn]

right, so do you think that israel should exist?

Should America exist? Australia? New Zealand? Who does Kashmir really belong too? The Hindus or the Muslims? Were the Serbs and Croats justified in attempting to seize Bosnia and ethnically cleanse the area of Muslims after the fall of Communism because it once belonged to them?

[fullfathomfive]

Every Jew is a money-grabbing evil fuck and every muslim is a suicide-bombing fundamentalist nazi.

Hang on, that's a load of shite.

Should the middle east & Palestine be the focus of so much attention, given the atrocities elsewhere in the world? No.

But I'm forgetting the oil. Which of course has nothing to do with religion.