View Full Version : How many ex. paid trolls on this forum?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:21 PM
That could be interesting if paid trolls discovered the truth on a mission to create confusion.
If you have been paid as a troll tell us your story :)
beetzart
06-06-2010, 01:22 PM
That could be interesting if paid trolls discovered the truth on a mission to create confusion.
If you have been paid as a troll tell us your story :)
I am a paid troll. Looks odd on my tax returns though:D
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 01:32 PM
I said yes.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:33 PM
I said yes.
Why do you work as a troll?
beetzart
06-06-2010, 01:34 PM
Why do you work as a troll?
Trolling is fun
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 01:38 PM
Why do you work as a troll?
Do I work as a troll?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:44 PM
Trolling is fun
It may be.
But what if it is correct that there is an elite that want to wipe out 80-90% of the world population and want to go ahead with a war in Iran to kickstart WW3?
And those on this forum try very hard to do something about it to save trolls and humanity incl. the elite.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 01:45 PM
It may be.
But what if it is correct that there is an elite that want to wipe out 80-90% of the world population and want to go ahead with a war in Iran to kickstart WW3?
And those on this forum try very hard to do something about it to save trolls and humanity incl. the elite.
I'll swim to fucking Denmark!
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 01:47 PM
It may be.
But what if it is correct that there is an elite that want to wipe out 80-90% of the world population and want to go ahead with a war in Iran to kickstart WW3?
And those on this forum try very hard to do something about it to save trolls and humanity incl. the elite.
Isn't that a beautiful loop then?
1 Trolls troll here
2 People on this forum save those trolls so that they can go on trolling
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I'll swim to fucking Denmark!
Who says Denmark is safe?
80-90% of the world population is a large amount.
krakhead
06-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I voted yes as a current troll :D
http://coreofgaming.com/files/images/forum_pics/useless_thread.jpg
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:49 PM
Isn't that a beautiful loop then?
1 Trolls troll here
2 People on this forum save those trolls so that they can go on trolling
What if we are faced with 2 options.
1 Humanity succeeds to stop allowing to be manipulated and we can have a planet where we support each other to get a better world. There are more than enough for everyone.
2. The elite manage to manipulate humanity into their own self destruction and we all lose incl the elite.
There is a reason why you guys are being paid to troll. So something most be correct what we say otherwise it is waste of money.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 01:54 PM
We are faced with 2 options.
1 Humanity succeeds to stop allowing to be manipulated and we can have a planet where we support each other to get a better world. There are more than enough for everyone.
2. The elite manage to manipulate humanity into their own self destruction and we all lose incl the elite.
So when we are 'saved' what will happen next? Who will run the NHS, the schools (or will they be banned so children can't learn how to question the truth movement)?
Will we still have a democracy or just a supreme leader? Nominate Icke.
What will this Brave New World look like.
I think it's fucking scary, I'll stick with the status quo.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 01:57 PM
So when we are 'saved' what will happen next? Who will run the NHS, the schools (or will they be banned so children can't learn how to question the truth movement)?
Will we still have a democracy or just a supreme leader? Nominate Icke.
What will this Brave New World look like.
I think it's fucking scary, I'll stick with the status quo.
Who says we need a leader? Leaders are the old structure with Lucifer with his watchful eye on the top feeding from a willing humanity fighting amongst them selves
Right now we are all slaves supporting the system with taxes etc.
We have to work so much harder to survive because we allow all the parasites sucking value out of our money system.:
The old system works like a pyramid game. It feeds on the majority to the few and will collapse ether to the good or self destruct.
http://www.ark-of-salvation.org/pyramid.gif
I see the world become a world where we are all leaders in our own life and we work to help each other instead of serving our ego and push others down to be better then them. But it will be freedom where no one is forcing others to do anything they don't want to.
flickflack
06-06-2010, 02:03 PM
That could be interesting if paid trolls discovered the truth on a mission to create confusion.
There are no paid trolls posting on these forums, and if they ever changed their position, they would be willing to get their paycheck anyway. :D
If they where to continue to post here, they would of course be satisfied with a paycheck of 1000 $ a week. Because who doesn't want to get paid posting on a forum? Ha! :)
lizzy
06-06-2010, 02:05 PM
radio , don't get hung up on a paid troll ..I did that with marpet....it's not worth your time or intelligence........;)
The 'status quo' is another myth / hoax.
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 02:06 PM
What if we are faced with 2 options.
1 Humanity succeeds to stop allowing to be manipulated and we can have a planet where we support each other to get a better world. There are more than enough for everyone.
2. The elite manage to manipulate humanity into their own self destruction and we all lose incl the elite.
There is a reason why you guys are being paid to troll. So something most be correct what we say otherwise it is waste of money.
But but, we gots moneys. We buy bling bling
http://nationalencyclopedia.org/images/tux/masta64-bling-bling-tux.png
http://www.psp-themes.net/data/media/10/Bling%20Bling%20Neon.jpg
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:06 PM
radio , don't get hung up on a paid troll ..I did that with marpet....it's not worth your time or intelligence........;)
The 'status quo' is another myth / hoax.
I would seriously consider your stance on his 'intelligence'!
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
What if we are faced with 2 options.
1 Humanity succeeds to stop allowing to be manipulated and we can have a planet where we support each other to get a better world. There are more than enough for everyone.
2. The elite manage to manipulate humanity into their own self destruction and we all lose incl the elite.
There is a reason why you guys are being paid to troll. So something most be correct what we say otherwise it is waste of money.
Let me ask you another question: (not that you'll be able to answer it)
When you are quite ill do you goto the doctors?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
There are no paid trolls posting on these forums, and if they ever changed their position, they would be willing to get their paycheck anyway. :D
If they where to continue to post here, they would of course be satisfied with a paycheck of 1000 $ a week. Because who doesn't want to get paid posting on a forum? Ha! :)
Canadian Government Pays Organization To Troll Political Chat Forums
http://www.infowars.com/canadian-government-pays-organization-to-troll-political-chat-forums/
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:08 PM
That could be interesting if paid trolls discovered the truth on a mission to create confusion.
If you have been paid as a troll tell us your story :)
one song:
DR.ALBAN - LOOK WHO'S TALKING - YouTube
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:09 PM
Let me ask you another question: (not that you'll be able to answer it)
When you are quite ill do you goto the doctors?
No not really.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:11 PM
But but, we gots moneys. We buy bling bling
You may do, but it comes with a big price. Would you like this bling bling if it means you help the system self destruct and we soon get WW3 and wipe out of 80-90% of the population. If we are right in what we believe. Somehow it would be strange that you would be paid to troll loser conspiracy theorists that live in a fantasy.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:11 PM
I am a paid troll. Looks odd on my tax returns though:D
hi "comrade"
*cossack song in background*
:D
mrindigo
06-06-2010, 02:12 PM
Something themed around trolls/shills/agents yet again.
I'm not sure I really understand the point of this thread and poll. It's also one-sided, and a bit overly paranoid.
How does being paid vs those who aren't, make any difference as well? Wouldn't they all do the same things regardless of a paycheck? Further more, how do you know they aren't just people looking for a cheap laugh at the expense of other people because they're bored and have nothing better to do? Some people are just assholes, and don't need to be paid to do it. Their reward is seeing the misery of others.
If you're really that worried about people being paid to troll forums...
1) Utilize the embedded forum ignore features.
2) If they're hostel, report them, and chances are they'll get banned.
3) Start your own forums, and set your own rules of conduct up.
Problem solved.
I'm beginning to think that those who start these witch hunt threads ARE the trolls/agents/shills. I can't see any other reason for such nonsense.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:12 PM
No not really.
Ok then, so if you are really ill, say vomiting and pissing blood. You could have a nasty virus maybe, your chest hurts and your limbs really ache and you will faint any minute. Then what?
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 02:13 PM
freelance troll on a quid pro quo basis
will shill for the highest bidder
currently working for china
:D
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:14 PM
hi "comrade"
*cossack song in background*
:D
Yo! :)
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:14 PM
Something themed around trolls/shills/agents yet again.
I'm not sure I really understand the point of this thread and poll. It's also one-sided, and a bit overly paranoid.
How does being paid vs those who aren't, make any difference as well? Wouldn't they all do the same things regardless of a paycheck? Further more, how do you know they aren't just people looking for a cheap laugh at the expense of other people because they're bored and have nothing better to do? Some people are just assholes, and don't need to be paid to do it. Their reward is seeing the misery of others.
If you're really that worried about people being paid to troll forums...
1) Utilize the embedded forum ignore features.
2) If they're hostel, report them, and chances are they'll get banned.
3) Start your own forums, and set your own rules of conduct up.
Problem solved.
I'm beginning to think that those who start these witch hunt threads ARE the trolls/agents/shills. I can't see any other reason for such nonsense.
Just having a friendly conversation with people claiming to be paid trolls. Trying to understand this trolling better.
Paid or non paid. It is still trolling.
lakkimakki
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Thats strange ,never seen one.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
80-90% of the world population is a large amount.
are albanians supposed2be eradicated?if yes, signup documents plz
:)
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Something themed around trolls/shills/agents yet again.
I'm not sure I really understand the point of this thread and poll. It's also one-sided, and a bit overly paranoid.
How does being paid vs those who aren't, make any difference as well? Wouldn't they all do the same things regardless of a paycheck? Further more, how do you know they aren't just people looking for a cheap laugh at the expense of other people because they're bored and have nothing better to do? Some people are just assholes, and don't need to be paid to do it. Their reward is seeing the misery of others.
If you're really that worried about people being paid to troll forums...
1) Utilize the embedded forum ignore features.
2) If they're hostel, report them, and chances are they'll get banned.
3) Start your own forums, and set your own rules of conduct up.
Problem solved.
I'm beginning to think that those who start these witch hunt threads ARE the trolls/agents/shills. I can't see any other reason for such nonsense.
Trolls could be described as keeping nature's extremists in check.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Ok then, so if you are really ill, say vomiting and pissing blood. You could have a nasty virus maybe, your chest hurts and your limbs really ache and you will faint any minute. Then what?
I coughed blood ones. Just slept it out of my system. Think it was a pneumonia.
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
You may do, but it comes with a big price. Would you like this bling bling if it means you help the system self destruct and we soon get WW3 and wipe out of 80-90% of the population. If we are right in what we believe. Somehow it would be strange that you would be paid to troll loser conspiracy theorists that live in a fantasy.
Who are "we"? Do you think trolls would admit they're being paid to troll this forum to mislead people simply because you asked nicely? You don't seem that stupid.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
I coughed blood ones. Just slept it out of my system. Think it was a pneumonia.
Wasn't pneumonia then!
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Who are "we"? Do you think trolls would admit they're being paid to troll this forum to mislead people simply because you asked nicely? You don't seem that stupid.
lol,i like your ways man:D
as4op:
DR.ALBAN - LOOK WHO'S TALKING - YouTube
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:19 PM
Who are "we"? Do you think trolls would admit they're being paid to troll this forum to mislead people simply because you asked nicely? You don't seem that stupid.
Why not? The best way to hide is in plain view as you said, it would be pretty naive to think they would admit it openly. That is why they would probably do it and make a great troll laugh to be totally open.
Also make fun/discredit the person asking this totally naive question.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:19 PM
I coughed blood ones. Just slept it out of my system. Think it was a pneumonia.
If you woke up in hospital with tubes and machines linked to you and a big supply of O2 nearby, would you get up and discharge yourself?
haukipesukone
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
Why not? The best way to hide is in plain view as you said, it would be pretty naive to think they would admit it openly. That is why they would probably do it and make a great troll laugh to be totally open.
Also make fun/discredit the person asking this totally naive question.
Oh, sort of like starting a thread to confront trolls?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
Wasn't pneumonia then!
Well i felt bad and coughed blood. Normally people would visit a doctor with these symptoms.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:22 PM
Well i felt bad and coughed blood. Normally people would visit a doctor with these symptoms.
Yes normally people would, somehow it makes sense!
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:23 PM
radio , don't get hung up on a paid troll ..I did that with marpet....it's not worth your time or intelligence........;)
The 'status quo' is another myth / hoax.
hey lizzy, the problem with this guy is his "i know better then you attitude/letme lead yall"
also, check his flotilla thread, hes very pro idf, he was shilling so much, it was pathetic.
justa headsup.
allure
06-06-2010, 02:23 PM
There are 0 paid trolls on this forum.
Why would there need to be? Answer: There wouldn't.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:24 PM
If you woke up in hospital with tubes and machines linked to you and a big supply of O2 nearby, would you get up and discharge yourself?
I have been in the hospital with mononucleosis and it was pretty bad. But I felt it got worse being in the hospital where the idiots woke me up every 4th hour to take my temperature. So decided to leave and did. My mother nursed me instead and she gave me some alternative treatment with lots of vitamin c etc. It helped allot. I slept for 3 days with few hours being awake.
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 02:24 PM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29089/598946-troll_funny_pic_super.jpg
mrindigo
06-06-2010, 02:25 PM
Trolls could be described as keeping nature's extremists in check.
Or just douche bags with nothing better to do, who feel as if they need to stomp on another behind a computer to feel as if they've accomplished something in their lackluster existence?
Everyone has different perspectives and ideals, and thus any person with conflicting world views to another could be seen as an 'extremist'. That's an overly and misused word too by the way.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:27 PM
hey lizzy, the problem with this guy is his "i know better then you attitude/letme lead yall"
also, check his flotilla thread, hes very pro idf, he was shilling so much, it was pathetic.
justa headsup.
Because if Israel falls humanity falls. It was a provoked attack to make them lose the media war and it worked.
I have defended Iran and Muslims as well, so I am not Pro Israel.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:30 PM
Or just douche bags with nothing better to do, who feel as if they need to stomp on another behind a computer to feel as if they've accomplished something in their lackluster existence?
Everyone has different perspectives and ideals, and thus any person with conflicting world views to another could be seen as an 'extremist'. That's an overly and misused word too by the way.
radio shilluminati doesnt accept different views.
thats, by definition, extremist.
also, good luck having reasonable dialogue with him.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:30 PM
Or just douche bags with nothing better to do, who feel as if they need to stomp on another behind a computer to feel as if they've accomplished something in their lackluster existence?
Everyone has different perspectives and ideals, and thus any person with conflicting world views to another could be seen as an 'extremist'. That's an overly and misused word too by the way.
Hmmm 'extremist' is a key buzz word on here so it made sense to use it.
Douche bag, moi? Aren't you generalising a little?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:31 PM
radio shilluminati doesnt accept different views.
thats, by definition, extremist.
also, good luck having reasonable dialogue with him.
Of course I accept different views? :confused::confused:
If I was the leader and no one else was allowed to say what they think. It would be fascism right?
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:31 PM
Because if Israel falls humanity falls. It was a provoked attack to make them lose the media war and it worked.
I have defended Iran and Muslims as well, so I am not Pro Israel.
How do you provide yourself with protein?
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:35 PM
How do you provide yourself with protein?
I eat lots of meat at the moment. But will become 100% raw foodist soon. Need to focus on that to make it happen.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:36 PM
Because if Israel falls humanity falls. provoked attack
LIZZY?
you here?
humanity doesnt depend on israel , its the other way around.
you defended military killing civilians,a warcrime.
no shit, it was a pr flotilla ?who wouldve tought?
i generally dont like muzzys, but killing 10civis from helicopter serving humanity ?
lol.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:37 PM
How do you provide yourself with protein?
i do cum guzzling:D
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:37 PM
I eat lots of meat at the moment. But will become 100% raw foodist soon. Need to focus on that to make it happen.
I'm not talking to you anymore, apparently I'm bullying you.
It seems that if people don't like different views, even in a supposedly open minded place like this, then it ends up down the memory hole.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:38 PM
LIZZY?
you here?
humanity doesnt depend on israel , its the other way around.
you defended military killing civilians,a warcrime.
no shit, it was a pr flotilla ?who wouldve tought?
i generally dont like muzzys, but killing 10civis from helicopter serving humanity ?
lol.
Yes it was a PR war.
Hamas is a terror organization. They do not want to make peace with Israel. They have declared Israel war.
They are doing everything they can to make Israel look as pure evil as possible. Not saying Israel is pure angels either.
The problem is that this can kickstart WW3 and that is why it is important to see things from both sides and to find a way to make peace happen.
lizzy
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Trolls could be described as keeping nature's extremists in check.
:eek: ......knowing the de-population agenda is an extremist view? :rolleyes: LOL....
...think what you mean is that only the pyscopathic elite should be aware of it.....:p
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Of course I accept different views? :confused::confused:
If I was the leader and no one else was allowed to say what they think. It would be fascism right?
no, thatd be dictate.
ok,you accept different views but you dont consider them.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm not talking to you anymore, apparently I'm bullying you.
It seems that if people don't like different views, even in a supposedly open minded place like this, then it ends up down the memory hole.
I do not have a problem with different views.
disorder2k8
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm not a troll, now shoo before I club you and eat your bones! :p
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
no, thatd be dictate.
ok,you accept different views but you dont consider them.
I always try to look at things from different perspectives incl. why people are trolls. That is why I have made this thread.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 02:42 PM
I do not have a problem with different views.
Good, glad to hear it!
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Good, glad to hear it!
I would be a fascist if I only like to hear my self correct?
Don't let the Guru picture fool you. It is a joke on gurus.
lizzy
06-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Yes it was a PR war.
Hamas is a terror organization. They do not want to make peace with Israel. They have declared Israel war.
They are doing everything they can to make Israel look as pure evil as possible. Not saying Israel is pure angels either.
The problem is that this can kickstart WW3 and that is why it is important to see things from both sides and to find a way to make peace happen.
ok. i'm outta here.......Isreal are the most evil shits around....ROTHCHILIA.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:45 PM
ok. i'm outta here.......Isreal are the most evil shits around....ROTHCHILIA.
Consider the possibility that things are not like the mainstream say.
flickflack
06-06-2010, 02:46 PM
i do cum guzzling:D
WTF?
There is not much protein in semen, it is a myth. Same with the claim that frequent ejaculation helps against prostate cancer, it is all taken out of context by uneducated people.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:46 PM
Yes it was a PR war.
Hamas is a terror organization. They do not want to make peace with Israel. They have declared Israel war.
They are doing everything they can to make Israel look as pure evil as possible. Not saying Israel is pure angels either.
The problem is that this can kickstart WW3 and that is why it is important to see things from both sides and to find a way to make peace happen.
volunteer on next flotilla then.
upon arrival,walk down to israel and sign up@idf, for balance.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:48 PM
WTF?
There is not much protein in semen, it is a myth. Same with the claim that frequent ejaculation helps against prostate cancer, it is all taken out of context by uneducated people.
flikflak, it wasa joke:D:D
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:50 PM
ok. i'm outta here.......Isreal are the most evil shits around....ROTHCHILIA.
lol, ive told you, he uses "nwo" rethoric pieces as excuse for israel .
:)
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 02:52 PM
lol, ive told you, he uses "nwo" rethoric pieces as excuse for israel .
:)
But do you consider that it could be true what I say.
That we have been fooled to believe Israel is pure evil when things are not as simple as that?
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 02:57 PM
But do you consider that it could be true what I say.
That we have been fooled to believe Israel is pure evil when things are not as simple as that?
no,i KNOW israeli population is being flooded with propaganda.
doesnt mean they should get free outta jail card by default.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:02 PM
no,i KNOW israeli population is being flooded with propaganda.
doesnt mean they should get free outta jail card by default.
Sure they are manipulated with propaganda like Iran is working on a nuke:
The media caught red handed in war propaganda against Iran
Remember when the media wrote the Iranian president threatened Israel with “wipe Israel off the face of the map” that was a lie and propaganda.
This is what he really said:
“The Imam said this regime occupying
Jerusalem must vanish from the page of
time”.
” Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een
(this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e
(occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad
(must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of
time) mahv shavad (vanish from).”
He has nothing against Jews. There are a large Jewish community in Iran.
What he means is that the regime will fall over time because most Muslims often say that no dictatorship will last forever.
Israelis are being manipulated and so are others as well. Divide and conquer. To play Iran and Israel out against each other that will destroy them both and create WW3.
Apologize to the World Mr. Wallace and Return that Emmy - YouTube
President Ahmadinejad Meets Neturei Karta Rabbis - 9/24/2007 - YouTube
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 03:02 PM
no,i KNOW israeli population is being flooded with propaganda.
doesnt mean they should get free outta jail card by default.
exactly look at how the german population was treated after world war 2 by the rest of the world because of the actions of the few at the top
to not stand up to your country in my view makes you complicit
israel is now the same as nazi germany once was (you become your enemy)
this is nothing to do with blaming the jews for anything most are good people ,but about exposing the lies of a corrupt administration at the head of the israeli government
the israeli people are as much victim of arab/israeli conflict as the palistinians are in my opinion
flickflack
06-06-2010, 03:04 PM
ok. i'm outta here.......Isreal are the most evil shits around....ROTHCHILIA.
Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Rocket-launching against Israel is part of the culture in Gaza.
War against Jews is part of the culture in Palestine, with children talking about killing Jews on their TV programmes.
Holocaust denial is part of the Iranian culture, and war against Israel part of the Lebanese culture... And people wonder just why, sometimes, Israel tends to overreact? :rolleyes:
People shouldn't be so harsh on the Israeli military, considering nearly half of its members are women. Serving the military is mandatory there, as well as for women as men. And I have explained some plausible explanations as to why that is...
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:06 PM
exactly look at how the german population was treated after world war 2 by the rest of the world because of the actions of the few at the top
to not stand up to your country in my view makes you complicit
israel is now the same as nazi germany once was (you become your enemy)
this is nothing to do with blaming the jews for anything most are good people ,but about exposing the lies of a corrupt administration at the head of the israeli government
the israeli people are as much victim of arab/israeli conflict as the palistinians are in my opinion
It is not black and white.
Hamas is a terror organization that has been elected. They don't want peace and wish to wipe out Israel.
How does Israel make peace with people that don't want peace?
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 03:14 PM
It is not as black and white.
Hamas is a terror organization that has been elected. They don't want peace with Israel and want to wipe out Israel.
How does Israel make peace with people that don't want peace?
look dude lets start again i will be civil with you :)
the problem is for both sides the war itself serves a purpose
for the palistinians it enables the hamas government to have massive support by claiming israel is an evil zionist state and for hamas to gain recognition on the world stage as a political movement
for israel it enables to country to greatly to gain money through the sales of weapons and military vehicles, and the war itself is used to prop up the israeli economy and also for the country to gain massive support from the USA by showing little israel as a besieged country
both sides are wrong in my opinion
but the people of both sides need to stand up and say we have had enough
unfortunatly the media likes to stoke up both sides to promote itself
i just wish for peace
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:16 PM
look dude lets start again i will be civil with you :)
the problem is for both sides the war itself serves a purpose
for the palistinians it enables the hamas government to have massive support by claiming israel is an evil zionist state and for hamas to gain recognition on the world stage as a political movement
for israel it enables to country to greatly to gain money through the sales of weapons and military vehicles, and the war itself is used to prop up the israeli economy and also for the country to gain massive support from the USA by showing little israel as a besieged country
both sides are wrong in my opinion
but the people of both sides need to stand up and say we have had enough
unfortunatly the media likes to stoke up both sides to promote itself
i just wish for peace
I think you are right. Not sure, but sounds right.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:23 PM
It is not black and white.
Hamas is a terror organization that has been elected. They don't want peace and wish to wipe out Israel.
How does Israel make peace with people that don't want peace?
removing wall would be good start.
zen, yeah, nazi germany population is when every possible factor goes wrong.
+insane leader.
RI, see?were somewhat close to good discussion now.
first slow step would be a leftist israeli govt, then go from there imo.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
look dude lets start again i will be civil with you :)
the problem is for both sides the war itself serves a purpose
for the palistinians it enables the hamas government to have massive support by claiming israel is an evil zionist state and for hamas to gain recognition on the world stage as a political movement
for israel it enables to country to greatly to gain money through the sales of weapons and military vehicles, and the war itself is used to prop up the israeli economy and also for the country to gain massive support from the USA by showing little israel as a besieged country
both sides are wrong in my opinion
but the people of both sides need to stand up and say we have had enough
unfortunatly the media likes to stoke up both sides to promote itself
i just wish for peace
this summs it up nicely.
btw, how many govts consider hamas terrorists?other then usa,israel,uk?
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:29 PM
People shouldn't be so harsh on the Israeli military, considering nearly half of its members are women.
lol, watched mr&mrs smith?
whos better assasin?
dude, thats stupid thing to say.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:30 PM
removing wall would be good start.
zen, yeah, nazi germany population is when every possible factor goes wrong.
+insane leader.
RI, see?were somewhat close to good discussion now.
first slow step would be a leftist israeli govt, then go from there imo.
The wall is to prevent rockets and suicide bombers to kill Israelis.
If they don't have the wall they are like a computer on the internet without a firewall.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:32 PM
this summs it up nicely.
btw, how many govts consider hamas terrorists?other then usa,israel,uk?
I don't know. But have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Hxh1_R0LQ
Don't think they are so easy to negotiate peace with?
Mo0n5tar
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/moran.jpg
flickflack
06-06-2010, 03:34 PM
this summs it up nicely.
btw, how many govts consider hamas terrorists?other then usa,israel,uk?
Those that are part of the U.N. perhaps...
Hamas war crimes in Gaza: U.N. (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58E48V20090915)
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:35 PM
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/moran.jpg
DR.ALBAN - LOOK WHO'S TALKING - YouTube
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Those that are part of the U.N. perhaps...
Hamas war crimes in Gaza: U.N. (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58E48V20090915)
israel tops that.
flikflak, it was serious question, please no "perhaps"replys with propaganda attached.
im actually wondering.
dontworry,im no hamas supporter,lol.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
israel tops that.
flikflak, it was serious question, please no "perhaps"replys with propaganda attached.
im actually wondering.
dontworry,im no hamas supporter,lol.
I also want to see peace. that is why I try to understand both sides.
But it is a tough one with a government that is a terrorist organization that want Israel gone.
It is also possible that a small group of people in Israel is keeping the conflict going to be in power.
The Israelis say the reason for the settlers is not to expand Israel but to create a safety buffer from terrorists that could shoot rockets into Israel or bomb airplanes.
hadabusa
06-06-2010, 03:44 PM
The wall is to prevent rockets to kill Israelis.
no, wall wont stop rockets flying over it.
as for negotiations, surely those lunatics in white ninja garderobe arent negotiators?
its hard to find common ground while illegal/questionable settlements are built.
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
settlements are safety zone.
Israelis are often acting like victims and it is understandably because so many haters out there that only think Israel is the only part in the problem.
They are feed up and that is why if people criticizes them, they get angry because it reminds them of all the other haters that don't understand their situation.
they are the words most hated people. It makes people very sensitive.
it happened to me as well when I talked with the IDF. I tried to explain how I saw the situation and they got pissed at me because of few misunderstandings so I was labeled a hate/Nazi
This attitude does not make it easier for peace either.
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 04:00 PM
settlements are safety zone.
Israelis are often acting like victims and it is understandably because so many haters out there that only think Israel is the only part in the problem.
They are feed up and that is why if people criticizes them, they get angry because it reminds them of all the other haters that don't understand their situation.
they are the words most hated people. It makes people very sensitive.
it happened to me as well when I talked with the IDF. I tried to explain how I saw the situation and they got pissed at me because of few misunderstandings so I was labeled a hate/Nazi
This attitude does not make it easier for peace either.
the only way to sort the situation is through dialogue between both sides
and the american administration really needs to force both sides into talks
this could be done by america withdrawing aid to both sides untill they come to the table to talk
but like i said before i think this war benifits too many people in postions of power ,and that the avrage politician is not thinking about the average person in either israel or palistine
in my mind both sides have done some seriously messed up shit in the past
be it palistinian attacks on israeli school kids
to israel using phosphuros bombs on civilians
but talking is the only way this can be sorted
imagine how rich palistine and israel could become if the war ended and people could actully visit both places as a holiday destination without fear
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 04:03 PM
the only way to sort the situation is through dialogue between both sides
and the american administration really needs to force both sides into talks
this could be done by america withdrawing aid to both sides untill they come to the table to talk
but like i said before i think this war benifits too many people in postions of power ,and that the avrage politician is not thinking about the average person in either israel or palistine
in my mind both sides have done some seriously messed up shit in the past
be it palistinian attacks on israeli school kids
to israel using phosphuros bombs on civilians
but talking is the only way this can be sorted
imagine how rich palistine and israel could become if the war ended and people could actully visit both places as a holiday destination without fear
I agree they need to have dialogs and it would be a win/win situation.
The reason why Israel insist on checking cargo is to avoid bomb material to enter Gaza.
We also have another problem. New World order wants Israel to kickstart WW3.
starshine
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
That is a good point Zen, but TPTB do not want any nation to be really happy.:mad:
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 04:07 PM
I agree they need to have dialogs and it would be a win/win situation.
The reason why Israel insist on checking cargo is to avoid bomb material to enter Gaza.
We also have another problem. New World order wants Israel to kickstart WW3.
lol finally we kinda agree :) nice isnt it lol
yes israel will probably be the flashpoint for ww3 either israel attacking irans nuke reactors or an attack on israel by one of the surrounding countries or by russia who are not happy with israel at the moment
who knows though there are other plans to kick start ww3 it could start in georgia or in north korea so the elite always have other options if the people of israel and palistine finally become aware they are being used in a much bigger game of global chess
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 04:12 PM
lol finally we kinda agree :) nice isnt it lol
yes israel will probably be the flashpoint for ww3 either israel attacking irans nuke reactors or an attack on israel by one of the surrounding countries or by russia who are not happy with israel at the moment
who knows though there are other plans to kick start ww3 it could start in georgia or in north korea so the elite always have other options if the people of israel and palistine finally become aware they are being used in a much bigger game of global chess
Yes indeed, it is a great dialog we all have. Wish we always could debate like this in other threads. It's a funny paradox that it happened in a thread about trolls :D
It looks like the Elite are going for the Iran solution:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-agenda-revealed-globalists-in-crisis-supportive-of-attack-on-iran.html
It would be nice if that could be derailed. Time is our friend. If humanity wakes up before they can create chaos the Israel situation could be solved.
zen_anarchy
06-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Yes indeed, it is a great dialog we all have. Wish we always could debate like this. It is a funny paradox that it happened in a thread about trolls :D
It looks like the Elite are going for the Iran solution:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-agenda-revealed-globalists-in-crisis-supportive-of-attack-on-iran.html
It would be nice if that could be derailed. Time is our friend. If humanity wakes up before they can create chaos the Israel situation could be solved.
yeah dude i will apologise for being an ass to you last night ,but i do get emotionally het up sometimes ,one of my many faults lol
but yeah the irony on this thread is not wasted ,it is probably the best diaologue we have done on this subject lol :D
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 04:19 PM
yeah dude i will apologise for being an ass to you last night ,but i do get emotionally het up sometimes ,one of my many faults lol
but yeah the irony on this thread is not wasted ,it is probably the best diaologue we have done on this subject lol :D
Don't think about it my friend. You are only a mirror of my self and I have probably provoked you without knowing it. I can be pretty irritating too. Probably my ego that makes it(lack of self esteem) :D
Yes it has been the best dialog thread ever on DI.
beetzart
06-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Don't think about it my friend. You are only a mirror of my self and I have probably provoked you without knowing it. I can be pretty irritating too. Probably my ego that makes it(lack of self esteem) :D
Yes it has been the best dialog thread ever on DI.
:D Self depreciating mate like it!
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 04:36 PM
:D Self depreciating mate like it!
I guess my ego is provoking(lack of self esteem). :o
radio illuminati
06-06-2010, 05:40 PM
Check this out. An Arab explaining what Hamas is:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
acharlatani
06-06-2010, 06:37 PM
Not read the whole thread so i am sorry if this has already been asked. Howdoes anybody know there are people on this site that have been paid and are known as trolls? Is there any proof out there?
flickflack
06-06-2010, 06:53 PM
Not read the whole thread so i am sorry if this has already been asked. Howdoes anybody know there are people on this site that have been paid and are known as trolls? Is there any proof out there?
None of the posters on this forum has been proved to be a paid troll. A lot of people get accused of it, but there are no evidences showing the claims are true.
A lot of people get labeled shills on here, they can't all get paid...
martg
06-06-2010, 06:59 PM
only 8 so far?
with all the trolls i've come across in the last couple of weeks on here, i think regular users are in danger of becoming outnumbered :mad:
oioioi
06-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Oh, sort of like starting a thread to confront trolls?
I got it ;)
_underscore_
06-06-2010, 07:46 PM
_underscore_ is not a paid troll, but he plays one on TV.
ronisron
06-06-2010, 09:22 PM
A. Why would a troll admit to this?
B. Why isn't there a "No, I'm not and never have been a troll, paid or otherwise" selection? The way it's set up, the OP is heads I win, tails you lose.
merlincove
06-06-2010, 09:26 PM
My trolling is up for hire :D
if you want me to troll a thread, just drop me a pm and we can discuss a mutually beneficial arrangement, via paypal :D
Excellent rates guaranteed :D
ex_anser_ovo
06-06-2010, 11:11 PM
I vaguely remember portraying a troll on one of them reality tv shows.
Edit: Hey wait. I don't remember getting paid for that gig at all!
http://jdc325.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/hulk.jpg
acharlatani
07-06-2010, 08:35 AM
None of the posters on this forum has been proved to be a paid troll. A lot of people get accused of it, but there are no evidences showing the claims are true.
A lot of people get labeled shills on here, they can't all get paid...
Ahh cheers for the update flickflack. Don't you think its a bit paranoid android to think people are being paid to be on this site. I cant see it somehow. But anyhow who cares. Its not going to alter anything in my mind. I believe what i believe and i use this site to talk to the likeminded ones and to read the PROPER news. No bad soul will influence me....