Dave predicts BP disaster in book !?!

[masonicboom]

I was thrilled to get DI's new book in the mail a few days ago and am on page 495 near the bottom where he talks about Monsanto & GMO and the SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF MARINE LIFE BY THE UNITED STATES NAVY.
The Gulf of Mexico is even mentioned as a target.

I've never eaten much sea food nor do I care for it much but I know it is considered healthy. Perhaps that is why they want it eliminated.

What better way to do this than pollute the oceans.
I read in the Natural News email I get daily that the spill will continue for at least another 10 weeks and perhaps INDEFINATELY.

Looks to me like David, or the powers that work through him has/have made another dead on prediction.

This new book is so intense. Much more than I expected and with tons of new material, not just a rehashing of old books. Of course most topics we are already familiar with if we have been following DI for a while.

So What does everyone think about the BP crisis and has anyone else considered that perhaps this was no accident, but perhaps the next 9/11 ??

[passing]

I'm waiting for the book to hit the shelves again, it had sold out by the time I got my grubby mitts on 20 quid (now spent :rolleyes:)...

Deliberate destruction of marine life is a big scary idea, it's up there with chemtrails for me... hmm...

[skaff]

I was thrilled to get DI's new book in the mail a few days ago and am on page 495 near the bottom where he talks about Monsanto & GMO and the SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF MARINE LIFE BY THE UNITED STATES NAVY.
The Gulf of Mexico is even mentioned as a target....

...Looks to me like David, or the powers that work through him has/have made another dead on prediction.

Not trying to be awkward here but this is the sort of thing that frustrates me. I am open to much that points towards a global conspiracy in many areas but blindly following ideals is not healthy. What is even worse is when people fill the gaps to get it to fit a belief. The two paragraphs above are NOT the same thing so to even call it a good prediction is stretching reality a little. To call it 'dead on' is just plain silly.

I am not saying that there is no link but lets look for it rather than take a man at his word. You wouldn't believe it if the CEO of BP came forward and said that they were doing all they can to stop it unless it was backed up by overt action (and possibly not even then!) so why take DI at his word without facts also?

[masonicboom]

Not trying to be awkward here but this is the sort of thing that frustrates me. I am open to much that points towards a global conspiracy in many areas but blindly following ideals is not healthy. What is even worse is when people fill the gaps to get it to fit a belief. The two paragraphs above are NOT the same thing so to even call it a good prediction is stretching reality a little. To call it 'dead on' is just plain silly.

I am not saying that there is no link but lets look for it rather than take a man at his word. You wouldn't believe it if the CEO of BP came forward and said that they were doing all they can to stop it unless it was backed up by overt action (and possibly not even then!) so why take DI at his word without facts also?

Chill dude, you don't agree with the theory so you critisize my wording.
Sorry you don't like my phrasing. Could you phrase it more properly sir English Teacher.
I don't understand what you mean when you say "following blind ideals is unhealthy" What "Ideal" are you implying that I blindly follow ???
PLEASE ANSWER.

Filling in gaps is neccessary. It's called a theory. Sorry it threatened you.
Also you obviously don't like Icke and would never read his book, so you are by self admission a troll on this forum.

And let's get this straight, This is not a theory that David wrote and I am parroting, it is simply a coincidence that He mentions Monsanto and plans for the "systematic destruction of marine life by the US Navy" The areas he mentions are the Atlantic,Pacific, and the GULF OF MEXICO.
He did not mention specifically the use of oil to accomplish this, but I could not help but connect the dots (fill in the gaps) That's what thinking people do. Notice that the title had a question mark after it. This was to indicate that it was only a theory and I was not claiming absolute truth.

I would love to hear what you think is going on, but I personally have come to beleive this is no accident and it is likely that this could've been fixed by now but that's not what they want.

You call me silly for thinking. Seems they got you playing the role they want.
Someone says something out of popular beleif and they are attacked.

So, WHEN DO YOU THINK THEY WILL STOP THE FLOW ???
I am asking since you are more knowledgable and qualified.

I have a feeling that somewhere there is a bridge left ungaurded.

[convulsions for tea]

Not trying to be awkward here but this is the sort of thing that frustrates me. I am open to much that points towards a global conspiracy in many areas but blindly following ideals is not healthy. What is even worse is when people fill the gaps to get it to fit a belief. The two paragraphs above are NOT the same thing so to even call it a good prediction is stretching reality a little. To call it 'dead on' is just plain silly.

I am not saying that there is no link but lets look for it rather than take a man at his word. You wouldn't believe it if the CEO of BP came forward and said that they were doing all they can to stop it unless it was backed up by overt action (and possibly not even then!) so why take DI at his word without facts also?

Your trying to be awarked dude:rolleyes: i don't blindly follow the global conspiracy but i feel masonicboom made a good point...i can't see why you had a problem with it...it is a bit lame to pull some up on the wording of his posts....Did'nt you get his point???

[subl1minal]

Do not feed the troll!

Good thread man, I haven't got that far in the book yet! GRR

[masonicboom]

I'm waiting for the book to hit the shelves again, it had sold out by the time I got my grubby mitts on 20 quid (now spent :rolleyes:)...

Deliberate destruction of marine life is a big scary idea, it's up there with chemtrails for me... hmm...

continuing hmmmm.........
Oh, you mean like AS ABOVE - SO BELOW
(chemtrails in air and now oil and the dispersive chemical at sea)

:)

BP = Biggest Polluter

[passing]

Oh, you mean like AS ABOVE - SO BELOW
(chemtrails in air and now oil and the dispersive chemical at sea)


Well I didn't but I see what you mean!

[skaff]

As more than one person found my post offensive, i read it back to see if i could see what i posted that was so bad and, to be honest i don't see it.

Thanks for your pm as well MB but i am afraid you have either misconstrued my meaning or i have inadvertantly touched a nerve. You said you have read my posts and find that i am aggressive. I sincerely hope others who i have conversed with on here will read this thread as i genuinely feel you are way off the mark here.

I was in no way belittling you as a person nor was (or am) i claiming to be in any way better than anyone on this forum least of all you. My point, and i still stand by it, was that to call the prediction 'dead on' was a misleading comment. It wasn't putting into question your command of the English language but merely the factual nature of the comment.

That said, it may will be that what has happened there is the result of a larger conspiracy. I would love to be in a position to say it is or isn't but i am just a pawn like 99% of those on here so what do i know!!?

You asked what i think and fwiw i think BP are doing what all Oil based conglomerates do and that is put dollars before people. They are only trying to fix things with more urgency now because they are being threatened with a loss of profits.

As for the rest of your post, i am afraid i disagree with your interepretation of who i am. I am not a Troll, either by my own admission or anyone else's for that matter!

Troll: someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

Please anyone who wants to find my posts that match that description i encourage you to do so. By doing that i hope that you will find out the kind of person i really am. On this forum i have both supported and criticised David Icke, agreed that trans-governmental conspiracies run the world and yet have defended Freemasons. Denounced politicians and championed the Queen. I think you will find that my beliefs (and they are just that) are eclectic but i have maintained my dignity despite provocation on more than one occasion.

I respect your opinion on any subject, this included. If i knew you were wrong on something then i would say but i doubt that would ever occur. The sole reason for picking up on the one piece of phraseology in your post is because i found it would bias an impartial reader, nothing more, no offence intended and apologies if you felt that it was more than it was.

Finally for the other posts regarding my 'troll' credentials, if you feel that questioning people's perceptions on things is evidence of trolling then i fear this forum may empty very quickly don't you think?

[suzanne4sure]

I am really starting to believe that a big part of being in this dimension is about testing out theories.

Some find connections between things that works for their developing personal truth. Doubtful that any of us would take any one person's position on anything completely including David Icke's.

But you have to start somewhere I say and I think David has done a decent job of piecing together history that has been lost on us in school...NWO history agenda vs. actual history. Even the History Channel in the US did a whole expose on Aliens and religion two weeks ago...:)

Anything is possible with some of Icke's other theories, but we may never know for certain....unless of course we can go to the Moon, or see someone personally turn into a reptile. But one thing is for certain. Given the insanity we all witnessing on this planet ANYTHING is possible.

[skaff]

I am really starting to believe that a big part of being in this dimension is about testing out theories.

Some find connections between things that works for their developing personal truth. Doubtful that any of us would take any one person's position on anything completely including David Icke's.

But you have to start somewhere I say and I think David has done a decent job of piecing together history that has been lost on us in school...NWO history agenda vs. actual history. Even the History Channel in the US did a whole expose on Aliens and religion two weeks ago...:)

Anything is possible with some of Icke's other theories, but we may never know for certain....unless of course we can go to the Moon, or see someone personally turn into a reptile. But one thing is for certain. Given the insanity we all witnessing on this planet ANYTHING is possible.

All good points Suzanne and, like you say, frustratingly for us truth seekers, we may well never know the answers! :mad:

At risk of being flamed again i have stated before that much of what Icke reports is based on previous research and i feel those who did the groundwork are all too often forgotten. However, that is very much a topic for another thread as i do not wish to hijack this one!

[masonicboom]

As more than one person found my post offensive, i read it back to see if i could see what i posted that was so bad and, to be honest i don't see it.

Thanks for your pm as well MB but i am afraid you have either misconstrued my meaning or i have inadvertantly touched a nerve. You said you have read my posts and find that i am aggressive. I sincerely hope others who i have conversed with on here will read this thread as i genuinely feel you are way off the mark here.

I was in no way belittling you as a person nor was (or am) i claiming to be in any way better than anyone on this forum least of all you. My point, and i still stand by it, was that to call the prediction 'dead on' was a misleading comment. It wasn't putting into question your command of the English language but merely the factual nature of the comment.

That said, it may will be that what has happened there is the result of a larger conspiracy. I would love to be in a position to say it is or isn't but i am just a pawn like 99% of those on here so what do i know!!?

You asked what i think and fwiw i think BP are doing what all Oil based conglomerates do and that is put dollars before people. They are only trying to fix things with more urgency now because they are being threatened with a loss of profits.

As for the rest of your post, i am afraid i disagree with your interepretation of who i am. I am not a Troll, either by my own admission or anyone else's for that matter!

Troll: someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

Please anyone who wants to find my posts that match that description i encourage you to do so. By doing that i hope that you will find out the kind of person i really am. On this forum i have both supported and criticised David Icke, agreed that trans-governmental conspiracies run the world and yet have defended Freemasons. Denounced politicians and championed the Queen. I think you will find that my beliefs (and they are just that) are eclectic but i have maintained my dignity despite provocation on more than one occasion.

I respect your opinion on any subject, this included. If i knew you were wrong on something then i would say but i doubt that would ever occur. The sole reason for picking up on the one piece of phraseology in your post is because i found it would bias an impartial reader, nothing more, no offence intended and apologies if you felt that it was more than it was.

Finally for the other posts regarding my 'troll' credentials, if you feel that questioning people's perceptions on things is evidence of trolling then i fear this forum may empty very quickly don't you think?

True, in retrospect, I should not have called it a prediction. That was a bit sensationalistic.
I was probably in a bit of a hurry on the post and should've used a different title. I apologize for the trolling accusations. I did think that you were either dissing me or trolling but I see thats not the case.
Glad we got that straightened out :)

I just got off youtube and there are videos suggesting conspiracy in this event and also a theory that North Korea Torpedoed the rig. I hadn't thought of that but thats also a possibility.

Oh, also sorry for saying your posts were hostile. I didn't really read them enough to make that judgement, just scanned through a few and my perception was no doubt affected by my current emotional state so I saw what I was looking for. I'm sure if I looked again they would appear normal.

So... I am glad I was wrong.
Have a good one !!
PEACE
:)

[skaff]

True, in retrospect, I should not have called it a prediction. That was a bit sensationalistic.
I was probably in a bit of a hurry on the post and should've used a different title. I apologize for the trolling accusations. I did think that you were either dissing me or trolling but I see thats not the case.
Glad we got that straightened out :)

I just got off youtube and there are videos suggesting conspiracy in this event and also a theory that North Korea Torpedoed the rig. I hadn't thought of that but thats also a possibility.

Oh, also sorry for saying your posts were hostile. I didn't really read them enough to make that judgement, just scanned through a few and my perception was no doubt affected by my current emotional state so I saw what I was looking for. I'm sure if I looked again they would appear normal.

So... I am glad I was wrong.
Have a good one !!
PEACE
:)

MB! No-one is 'wrong' It is all an illusion ;)

Can you post the link to the youtube clip please? Would be good to watch

[suzanne4sure]

Very good posts Skaff and Masonicboom. I cannot begin to express how frustrating all this is. And it seems the more I learn and contemplate I feel helpless. I have always been a proponent of free thought without imposition on others. I have dropped all the religious ideology I was "programmed" with and I have read all the conspiracy theorists info and yet I am left with HUGE question marks.

I agree Skaff that we may never know. Masonicboom I think Icke does get some guidance, but given the dimension we live in, some that is given to him, may be off to confuse all of us including him. I guess we just need to find our own way and support one another in the process.

I am of the mind that Israel is going to be in a war before the year is up. After all America and other nations need a distraction from the economic collapse that is shortly going to impact us all I believe.

[masonicboom]

MB! No-one is 'wrong' It is all an illusion ;)

Can you post the link to the youtube clip please? Would be good to watch

sure, here's one where you can start:

Oil spill is a conspiracy? - YouTube

It's just a clip taken from some major news network.

[skaff]

I think the problem Suzanne is that, whether we like it or not, we are all pre-programmed not to be overly independent with our learning patterns as evoltion has made us learn by example. What food can and cannot be eaten, how to use our hands, how to communicate etc. all comes from observation and imitation.

The difficult bit is trying to turn that switch off when we are older and i am not sure any of us can do that completely. This precondition is then abused by tptb be it supposed black ops or simply advertising.

I guess it is not so much a switch as a dimmer.....and some of us are dimmer than others! :p

Sorry, drifted off topic again! In relation to this leak am i being naive in being impressed with Obama's stance on this? It may be all gas and gaiters (excuse english phrase!) from him but i really can't imagine either Daddy or Baby Bush openly criticising the Oil uberlords in the same way!

[skaff]

sure, here's one where you can start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqlinla1j0&feature=related

It's just a clip taken from some major news network.

Remember my issue with your choice of words with 'dead on'?

Well multiply that by 100 when talking about the reporter here. Using terms like 'crazy' and nut jobs' during the piece and then attempting to feign logic by quoting Occam's razor. Unfortunately the razor only works when you investigate the outcomes, not assume their validity in advance.

Such a perfect example of unbisaed reporting don't you think?:eek:

God people like that annoy me so much! Thanks for the clip though:)

[h2pogo]

Apparently Goldman sacks knew as well.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118769

Edit...I just read the page in David's book and he sure mentions Goldman....

[suzanne4sure]

Well if the "put options" by Goldman-Sachs on TransOcean stock don't show us once again "inside job" then we are just wanting to stay in lullaby land. Of course you won't here about this through the MSM, just like 9/11 and Goldman-Sach's multiple put-options. Sociopaths capitalizing on every front.

Hmm wonder if that was their last ditch effort for a payout before crashing the economy again? There has to be a currency they are converting it to. Forget gold. Too mainstream and touted by all the talking heads. Even guys like Alex Jones and Trends doom and gloomer Celente tout gold. WHAT ARE THEY BUYING?

[robdoo]

Something fishy is going on..

[masonicboom]

Something fishy is going on..

LOL, Thanks for enlightening this thread with some humor.

However, I doubt there will be much fishing going on, despite the fishyness.

:D

[subl1minal]

Oh it's all doom and gloom. Yes this oil leak is very bad, but it's just another diversion, fear inducing problem to keep the people in a low vibrational state, I'm sure it's an expression of many other things also at this time.

Destroying the sea food that's really good for us, destroying the economy in the process etc.

What about the people starving as I type? the genocide in Israel and all the other places? it's all good focusing on one thing, but everyone seems to forget the rest. We can't focus on what's going outside, we've got to focus on the inside and change that.

[skaff]

Oh it's all doom and gloom. Yes this oil leak is very bad, but it's just another diversion, fear inducing problem to keep the people in a low vibrational state, I'm sure it's an expression of many other things also at this time.

Destroying the sea food that's really good for us, destroying the economy in the process etc.

What about the people starving as I type? the genocide in Israel and all the other places? it's all good focusing on one thing, but everyone seems to forget the rest. We can't focus on what's going outside, we've got to focus on the inside and change that.

I think that is a generalisation. Most people, particularly those on here, are not distracted from the big picture by a single event. That said, it is important to view things in isolation and draw back from that to the wider issues. To try and take on everything that is happening in one go would be too overwhelming.

Personally i don't subscribe to the 'vibration' theory but even if i did, i still think as a people we need to ground ourselves first before we can move on. That cannot be achieved if we just cast off major events as an irrelevance of 'oh it's all doom and gloom'.

Just my tuppence:)

[ambler1980]

Oh it's all doom and gloom. Yes this oil leak is very bad, but it's just another diversion, fear inducing problem to keep the people in a low vibrational state, I'm sure it's an expression of many other things also at this time.

this is why i dont pay attention to any of the news.

[blueyonder2012]

Destroy & Pollute the organic fish stocks!! (Good Omega 3, Brain food)

TOTAL FOOD CONTROL

.

[ufochick]

Hmmm.... I "asked" and was told yes it was north korea.. usually I don't get answers to questions like that. So for those who know me...yep yep, it seems it was. I wonder why "they" answered that one? Hmmmm....

[cybersurf]

=skaff;1058927021]Not trying to be awkward here but this is the sort of thing that frustrates me. I am open to much that points towards a global conspiracy in many areas but blindly following ideals is not healthy. What is even worse is when people fill the gaps to get it to fit a belief. The two paragraphs above are NOT the same thing so to even call it a good prediction is stretching reality a little. To call it 'dead on' is just plain silly.

This is hyperbole, this is valid promotion.

I am not saying that there is no link but lets look for it rather than take a man at his word. You wouldn't believe it if the CEO of BP came forward and said that they were doing all they can to stop it unless it was backed up by overt action (and possibly not even then!) so why take DI at his word without facts also?

It is a fact that there is intentional destruction of the actual civilization. It is in CFR papers, it is advocated by Prince Phillipe. Those are facts.

[cybersurf]

I was thrilled to get DI's new book in the mail a few days ago and am on page 495 near the bottom where he talks about Monsanto & GMO and the SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF MARINE LIFE BY THE UNITED STATES NAVY.
The Gulf of Mexico is even mentioned as a target.

I've never eaten much sea food nor do I care for it much but I know it is considered healthy. Perhaps that is why they want it eliminated.

What better way to do this than pollute the oceans.
I read in the Natural News email I get daily that the spill will continue for at least another 10 weeks and perhaps INDEFINATELY.

Looks to me like David, or the powers that work through him has/have made another dead on prediction.

This new book is so intense. Much more than I expected and with tons of new material, not just a rehashing of old books. Of course most topics we are already familiar with if we have been following DI for a while.

So What does everyone think about the BP crisis and has anyone else considered that perhaps this was no accident, but perhaps the next 9/11 ??

BP has a vested interest in the poisoning of the Gulf of Mexic. It is the agenda of the New World Order to polute the Gulf of Mexico and that explains a lot why the BP company refused the aid of mexican engineers that offered to stop the leak with the same prooven method used in the similar case of the Ixtoc I oil wel in Mexican coasts in the 80's. The Ixtoc I was sealed with the aid of a bell shaped device after "efforts" by USA engineers "failed" in the 80's.

BP is fulfilling the agenda of the NWO to polute the Gulf of Mexico. SOABS!

[skaff]

This is hyperbole, this is valid promotion.



It is a fact that there is intentional destruction of the actual civilization. It is in CFR papers, it is advocated by Prince Phillipe. Those are facts.

Thanks for the English lesson but unfortunately you are 24 hours late. We are all aware of what we meant at this time and have moved on! Thanks anyway

[cybersurf]

Thanks for the English lesson but unfortunately you are 24 hours late. We are all aware of what we meant at this time and have moved on! Thanks anyway

Thanks, I'm too 24 hours late on my responses, hope the following is of help to pimpoint the urgency to cope with the NWO agenda, and the urgency to spread David Icke's latest book, that pimpointed the intention of the NWO to polute the Gulf of Mexico:

BP has a vested interest in the poisoning of the Gulf of Mexic. It is the agenda of the New World Order to polute the Gulf of Mexico and that explains a lot why the BP company refused the aid of mexican engineers that offered to stop the leak with the same prooven method used in the similar case of the Ixtoc I oil wel in Mexican coasts in the 80's. The Ixtoc I platform colapsed and the well spealed oil until it was sealed with the aid of a bell shaped device after "efforts" by USA engineers "failed" in the 80's.

BP is fulfilling the agenda of the NWO to polute the Gulf of Mexico. SOABS!


The Agenda:


Quote:
The Anglo Saxon Mission - The Timeline - Letter from a Whistleblower...

...

It soon became apparent that the government of the UK is directed from the City’s Financial Institutions, to which I was connected and also the Livery Company Buildings, the Guildhall, (the City’s HQ) and Mansion House. (Mansion House is the traditional seat of the Masonic elected Lord Mayor of London)

The guise for all this is very simple. The City is historically independent from anything emanating from the outside. No government body regulates or audits their activity. They are a law unto themselves, answerable to no one, save themselves, or the Monarch who is revered by the City with a Goddess like passion. Anyone, and this became clear, operating at any significant level of management in the City’s financial and government structure is a Mason and every meeting, social or otherwise, will always be an extension of Livery Company Masonic dealing. The more one delves into their activity, and I have, the more one can see that the City is very much like the Vatican. That is a tiny City state with an obscure power wielding political structure, dating back more than 1500 years with no recognisable change save the passage of time. I personally believe, unquestionably, that the City of London extends its power over the other major world financial centres with anecdotal evidence that the City controls the US Federal Reserve. I feel no one should be surprised that all political and financial power is held firmly within the City of London.


The Timeline

In late 2005 I attended what I thought was a normal 3 monthly City security & financial planning meeting since the usual crowd were emailed listed for attendance. The meeting turned out to be something entirely different. To my surprise (shock) this was very much a Masonic level meeting instead. No notes taken - word of mouth only.

At the meeting mention was made that the Timeline for war against Iran was being delayed to a point where other contingencies had to be put in place. Contingencies were then mentioned, in quite a matter of fact fashion. First was the Israeli reluctance to strike and provoke Iran into armed action and that Israel promised action that action would soon take place in order to provoke the required Iranian military response. (Israel soon after attacked Iranian backed Hizbollah bases in the Lebanon) That was my first surprise. The second was mention of Japanese reluctance to create havoc within the fledging Chinese financial sectors. China was growing too quickly with the Chinese military the being main beneficiary. The third surprise was open talk about the use of biological weapons – when they would be used since timing appeared to be crucial. Then there was more talk centred on how Iran must be engaged militarily in order to provoke the desired military response from China. The talk continued about how long conventional weapons should be used, knowing they would be hopeless against a Chinese military onslaught in the region. It soon transpired that they were not making decisions. They were discussing something that had already been planned and so they were simply sharing that information between themselves. It also became clear that the central issue of the meeting was when the ‘balloon’ would go up. Further issues dealt with finances, the moving of resources and protection of assets and the central control of these resources: the bringing in outlying assets. I recall the chain/sequence of events, which ran something like this:

They needed either the Iranians or the Chinese to be guilty of first use nuclear weapons in order to justify the next stage. (My information shows that the Iranians do indeed have a tactical nuclear capability) The next stage would be a measured regional nuclear response, enough to cause an immediate ceasefire. This ceasefire would create the time needed to put in place unified totalitarian western governments. Thereafter, or concurrent, biological weapons would be used against the Chinese population. This would then set of another chain of events that would collapse the whole Chinese political and social infrastructure. This was mentioned as: Disease, followed by wide spread food shortages, followed by mass starvation. Somehow, this would then cause the Chinese military to attack eastern Russia. The biological agents were described as being flu like and would spread like wild fire. It shocks and sickens me to describe these events. It shocks me even more to know that plausible events are being manipulated to cause the extinction of a whole part of the human race.

The evidence was clear. There does indeed exist a Timeline for future conflict that this country, the UK, was using this as some sort of world government business plan and many millions would die as a result. The plan is openly described in these circles as the Anglo Saxon Mission.

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/anglo-saxon-mission/anglo-saxon-mission.html

[cybersurf]

Thanks for the English lesson but unfortunately you are 24 hours late. We are all aware of what we meant at this time and have moved on! Thanks anyway

Are you a UK taxpayer financing British Petroleum or the UK Lords and Royalty?

[skaff]

Are you a UK taxpayer financing British Petroleum or the UK Lords and Royalty?

I am a UK taxpayer and am proud that some of my money goes to the Queen.

As for financing BP and Lords you will have to enlighten me.

Where are you from by the way? :)

[clint web]

Well, to make us all unhealthy by killing fish is pretty ridiculous.

There are many types of healthy food in the world. They would have to get rid of all healthy food to have any impact at all.

Whether or not the oil spill is intentional, i don't know - but it's not to kill fish.

[masonicboom]

Well, to make us all unhealthy by killing fish is pretty ridiculous.

There are many types of healthy food in the world. They would have to get rid of all healthy food to have any impact at all.

Whether or not the oil spill is intentional, i don't know - but it's not to kill fish.

Its only one piece in the puzzle. Getting rid of all the healthy food IS part of the GMO/Monsanto purpose. So its not that ridiculous after all, is it?

[cybersurf]

skaff;1058933963]I am a UK taxpayer and am proud that some of my money goes to the Queen.

You may feel proud of it, because the problem is not really with the Queen. It's the Queen's handler... remember? "Give me the control fo the money and I don't care who the pupet is at Buckingham."

The problem is that some of your money goes to the UK government agenda to create war with Iran and polute the Gulf of Mexico, my food. Even if it's not poluted yet, the price is set to increase. See what is my problem with your taxpayer mones? You're acomplice to a crime.

As for financing BP and Lords you will have to enlighten me.

Ia far as I know, the Lords eat caviar with the taxpayer's monies they receive for "pay". And I'm not shure if BP uses up taxpayer monies.

Where are you from by the way? :)

I'm from the country last oil-plundered by Cecile Rhodes, Mexico.

[cybersurf]

Well, to make us all unhealthy by killing fish is pretty ridiculous.

There are many types of healthy food in the world. They would have to get rid of all healthy food to have any impact at all.

Whether or not the oil spill is intentional, i don't know - but it's not to kill fish.

Shure, they want to kill you. (us)

[cybersurf]

Its only one piece in the puzzle. Getting rid of all the healthy food IS part of the GMO/Monsanto purpose. So its not that ridiculous after all, is it?

Monsanto's corn (and so weath and rice) can grow only once. The seed is not viable. You have to buy Monsanto's corn seeds for the next year crop. Fucking Sons of Bitches.

[cybersurf]

Well, to make us all unhealthy by killing fish is pretty ridiculous.

There are many types of healthy food in the world. They would have to get rid of all healthy food to have any impact at all.

Whether or not the oil spill is intentional, i don't know - but it's not to kill fish.

Yea, to put Fluoride in the water or salt you use to kill you like a rat is also pretty ridiculous. But the problem is that they did it with the Jews in Nazi death camps.

[skaff]

You may feel proud of it, because the problem is not really with the Queen. It's the Queen's handler... remember? "Give me the control fo the money and I don't care who the pupet is at Buckingham."

Glad you agree, so you won't mind if i stand by my pride then?

The problem is that some of your money goes to the UK government agenda to create war with Iran and polute the Gulf of Mexico, my food. Even if it's not poluted yet, the price is set to increase. See what is my problem with your taxpayer mones? You're acomplice to a crime.

Does that mean i can blame you for the drugs in my country that are a result of the Mexican drug cartels? Your government doesn't deal with it, you vote in your government therfore it is your fault? Of course not, that is silly. So is trying to blame me for your problems.

And what is wrong with getting 'your food' from the 77% of the Gulf that is still fishable? or the arable crops that your country produces each year:

Top revenue-producing crops include corn, tomatoes, sugar cane, dry beans, and avocados. Mexico also generates significant revenue from the production of beef, poultry, pork, and dairy products. In total, agriculture accounted for 3% of GDP in 2008. http://www.traveldocs.com/mx/economy.htm

And finally last time i checked (and believe me, i should know more than most) we are not at war with Iran.

Ia far as I know, the Lords eat caviar with the taxpayer's monies they receive for "pay". And I'm not shure if BP uses up taxpayer monies.

'As far as I know' and 'i'm not shure' are not the best of bases in which to accuse me of funding the world's elite is it? Is it fair to say that your original statement "Are you a UK taxpayer financing British Petroleum or the UK Lords and Royalty?" was a little premature then?

Members of the house of Lords receive no salary and BP is a private company so i finance neither directly. I have no doubt that Lords squirrel away illicit earnings ealsewhere and BP put pressure on many countries due to their huge profit margins but neither are due to my hard earned cash thanks very much

I'm from the country last oil-plundered by Cecile Rhodes, Mexico.

You need to enlighten me here as i have never heard of this person. I did a little searching but could only find a mining magnate who earned his wealth in South Africa in the 19th century. I am assuming that is not the same one!

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=skaff;1058939626]Glad you agree, so you won't mind if i stand by my pride then?

You can stand by your pride, nevermind Her Britanick Majesty puts that money of yours in the Stock Market and due to inside information, she allways wins and makes more money with it.

Does that mean i can blame you for the drugs in my country that are a result of the Mexican drug cartels? Your government doesn't deal with it, you vote in your government therfore it is your fault? Of course not, that is silly. So is trying to blame me for your problems.

My voting has something to do with this fucking narco governments and parties (ALL OF THEM) producing drugs, and so I am an acomplice to the crime of you smoking mexican pot. The moment I do not vote and not pay taxes, I'll be free of blame. As of today, I can only stop voting, but I can not stop paying taxes, so I better do something to correct that crime on mine, of being a mexican taxpayer and demand that Income Tax is abolished and that this fucking narco goverments get out of power.

And what is wrong with getting 'your food' from the 77% of the Gulf that is still fishable? or the arable crops that your country produces each year:

77% still fishable? Easy to say, you're not the one eating it.

Top revenue-producing crops include corn, tomatoes, sugar cane, dry beans, and avocados. Mexico also generates significant revenue from the production of beef, poultry, pork, and dairy products. In total, agriculture accounted for 3% of GDP in 2008. http://www.traveldocs.com/mx/economy.htm

All this fucking crops are too much contaminated with USA forbidened poisons being used here. Meat? imported stocks from the USA with mad cow disease?

And finally last time i checked (and believe me, i should know more than most) we are not at war with Iran.

That is why the British Reich is pressing Israel to create war with Iran. If we are not at war with Iran, why would then the USA has sent the biggest fleet available to the area? Maybe they're on vacation.

'As far as I know' and 'i'm not shure' are not the best of bases in which to accuse me of funding the world's elite is it? Is it fair to say that your original statement "Are you a UK taxpayer financing British Petroleum or the UK Lords and Royalty?" was a little premature then?

Shure.

Members of the house of Lords receive no salary and BP is a private company so i finance neither directly. I have no doubt that Lords squirrel away illicit earnings ealsewhere and BP put pressure on many countries due to their huge profit margins but neither are due to my hard earned cash thanks very much

I can digest that BP is a private company, run by the controlers of the Bank of England. But Lords receiving no pay, that's new to me. So, they are Lords just for pure althruistic purpuses to help British Shubjects? They surpass Mother Theresa of Calcuta then!

You need to enlighten me here as i have never heard of this person. I did a little searching but could only find a mining magnate who earned his wealth in South Africa in the 19th century. I am assuming that is not the same one!

Cecile Rhodes had oil busineses with the British oil companies prior the the nationalization of mexican oil. According to data from a Colegio de Mexico historian.

Cecile Rhodes, creator of the Round Table. Precursor of the NWO secret societies.

http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Cecil_Rhodes_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16600.jpg/260px-Cecil_Rhodes_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16600.jpg

[93krystalmoons]

wow, pretty impressive prediction. I'll will certainly check out that book. This situation is completely insane D: makes me want to stay home and never drive again!!!!!!

[skaff]

You can stand by your pride, nevermind Her Britanick Majesty puts that money of yours in the Stock Market and due to inside information, she allways wins and makes more money with it.

Wrong again

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/66701

My voting has something to do with this fucking narco governments and parties (ALL OF THEM) producing drugs, and so I am an acomplice to the crime of you smoking mexican pot. The moment I do not vote and not pay taxes, I'll be free of blame. As of today, I can only stop voting, but I can not stop paying taxes, so I better do something to correct that crime on mine, of being a mexican taxpayer and demand that Income Tax is abolished and that this fucking narco goverments get out of power.

So if you can do nothing about it then why blame me for my government???

All this fucking crops are too much contaminated with USA forbidened poisons being used here. Meat? imported stocks from the USA with mad cow disease?

Except i was talking about exports so you believe that the US are poisoning crops that you sell to them?

That is why the British Reich is pressing Israel to create war with Iran. If we are not at war with Iran, why would then the USA has sent the biggest fleet available to the area? Maybe they're on vacation.

So you are now blaming me for the actions of the US as well as the UK?


I can digest that BP is a private company, run by the controlers of the Bank of England. But Lords receiving no pay, that's new to me. So, they are Lords just for pure althruistic purpuses to help British Shubjects? They surpass Mother Theresa of Calcuta then!]

As i said, they no doubt obtain monies by more nefarious means but they have no official 'salary'.

Cecile Rhodes had oil busineses with the British oil companies prior the the nationalization of mexican oil. According to data from a Colegio de Mexico historian.

Cecile Rhodes, creator of the Round Table. Precursor of the NWO secret societies.

http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Cecil_Rhodes_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16600.jpg/260px-Cecil_Rhodes_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16600.jpg

So it was one and the same person? I can't find any reference to Mexico. All his dealings seem to be in South Africa. And i am sure you could find a more recent persecutor of your country if you tried:)

[cybersurf]

skaff;1058942366]Wrong again

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/66701

Shure, The Queen puts your taxpayer monies in the Stock Market and she looses.

QUOTETHE Queen has lost up to £37million in just a few weeks as a result of ­turmoil on global stock markets, the Daily Express can reveal today.QUOTE

So if you can do nothing about it then why blame me for my government???

Wrong. I can stop supporting this narco governments and you should do the same, just because the British government since time inmemorial has supported and pushed drugs. Specially in the days of Queen Victoria and her Chinese opium wars. Now with Queen Elizabeth II the crops of opium are now located in Afghanistan, and they are the bigest in the world, believeme.

Afghanistan opium production reaches 6,900 tons


Press TV
Thursday, Oct 22nd, 2009

Opium production rate has soared to 6,900 tons in Afghanistan in the past 10 years despite the presence of 100,000 foreign troops in the country for nearly eight years.

A report by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime said on Wednesday that Afghanistan produces 92 percent of the world’s opium that has devastating global consequences.

The UN report also noted that Afghanistan’s illegal opium production is worth 65 billion dollars.

The heroin and opium market feeds 15 million addicts, with Europe, Russia and Iran consuming half the supply, UNODC reported.

The UN office estimated some 15 million people take the drug each year, out of which 100,000 people die annually, warning that opium use contributes to the spread of HIV and AIDS.

The report indicated that less than two percent of the opium and heroin is seized by the local authorities before it leaves Afghanistan.

The Afghanistan-Pakistan border region has turned into the world’s largest free-trade zone in anything and everything that is illicit, from drugs and weapons to even people and migrants, added the UNODC study.

The report added that Afghanistan has a stockpile of enough opium to supply global demand for two years underlining the need to locate and destroy these stocks urgently.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/afghanistan-opium-production-reaches-6900-tons.html

[cybersurf]

Except i was talking about exports so you believe that the US are poisoning crops that you sell to them?

The point is the contamination of the sea life used for food. Shall we be hapy because now we can sell non poluted fish to the USA?

So you are now blaming me for the actions of the US as well as the UK?

Shure not, because the UK is in control of the USA trough the Federal Reserve... ("Give me the power over the money and I don't care who the pupets are at Bukingham or Washington").


The following is what a High Brit "City" officer has to say about the British Reich manging the world:

At the meeting mention was made that the Timeline for war against Iran was being delayed to a point where other contingencies had to be put in place. Contingencies were then mentioned, in quite a matter of fact fashion. First was the Israeli reluctance to strike and provoke Iran into armed action and that Israel promised action that action would soon take place in order to provoke the required Iranian military response. (Israel soon after attacked Iranian backed Hizbollah bases in the Lebanon) That was my first surprise. The second was mention of Japanese reluctance to create havoc within the fledging Chinese financial sectors. China was growing too quickly with the Chinese military the being main beneficiary. The third surprise was open talk about the use of biological weapons – when they would be used since timing appeared to be crucial. Then there was more talk centred on how Iran must be engaged militarily in order to provoke the desired military response from China. The talk continued about how long conventional weapons should be used, knowing they would be hopeless against a Chinese military onslaught in the region. It soon transpired that they were not making decisions. They were discussing something that had already been planned and so they were simply sharing that information between themselves. It also became clear that the central issue of the meeting was when the ‘balloon’ would go up. Further issues dealt with finances, the moving of resources and protection of assets and the central control of these resources: the bringing in outlying assets. I recall the chain/sequence of events, which ran something like this:

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/anglo-saxon-mission/anglo-saxon-mission.html

[cybersurf]

As i said, they no doubt obtain monies by more nefarious means but they have no official 'salary'.

This is a point to be studied in depth, the Mother Theresa Lords of Britain...

This is where your tax monies goes:

Taxation in the United Kingdom may involve payments to a minimum of two different levels of government: The central government (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) and local government. Central government revenues come primarily from income tax, National Insurance contributions, value added tax, corporation tax and fuel duty. Local government revenues come primarily from grants from central government funds, business rates in England and Wales, Council Tax and increasingly from fees and charges such as those from on-street parking. In the fiscal year 2007-08, total government revenue was 39.2 per cent of GDP, with net taxes and National Insurance contributions standing at 36.9 per cent of GDP[1]—approximately £606,661,000,000 (using 2008 nominal GDP measured in dollars, and converting using 2009 conversion rate).

Taxation in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where do the Lords fit in those two levels of government?

[cybersurf]

So it was one and the same person? I can't find any reference to Mexico. All his dealings seem to be in South Africa. And i am sure you could find a more recent persecutor of your country if you tried:)[/QUOTE]

As I said... This is information from a person from Colegio de Mexico, I woud have to find the data of Rhodes businesses in Mexico.

[trappedinameatsuit]

Something fishy is going on..

OMG They are staging revelations, third of the sea life will die! I knew it! :eek:
Just think if a hurricane hits the effect it will have on coast line states, then the added heat of the sun when everything dries. I'm going to crap myself if it happens and buildings and homes start bursting into flames.

It's not over yet, the games have just begun. (i stole that from saw:rolleyes:)

[skaff]

Shure, The Queen puts your taxpayer monies in the Stock Market and she looses.


But in your last post you said she manipulates the stock market so she never loses!!! Decide what conspiracy you are going for and let me know when you do and i will debate it with you.


Wrong. I can stop supporting this narco governments and you should do the same, just because the British government since time inmemorial has supported and pushed drugs. Specially in the days of Queen Victoria and her Chinese opium wars. Now with Queen Elizabeth II the crops of opium are now located in Afghanistan, and they are the bigest in the world, believeme.

Every government in every country has always used addiction to generate wealth, be it drugs, alcohol, coigarettes, oil or whatever. Britain is one of those countries.

Afghanistan was indeed the biggest producers of Opium in the world until recently. How is the British Queen responsible for that??

[skaff]

The point is the contamination of the sea life used for food. Shall we be hapy because now we can sell non poluted fish to the USA?

That wasn't my point. One of your exports is crops and your main customer is the USA. Yet you accuse them of poisonnig your crops. That doesn't make sense.

Shure not, because the UK is in control of the USA trough the Federal Reserve... ("Give me the power over the money and I don't care who the pupets are at Bukingham or Washington").

Am i reading this right. You are saying that the British Government holds sway over the USA by manipulating the federal reserve? Well, i admire your imagination but i think you will find that we are the pawn in America's game, not the other way round.

The following is what a High Brit "City" officer has to say about the British Reich manging the world:

An interesting claim but did this person leave their name? I think it is fair to say that project camelot are not unbiased. That is not to say that it is untrue but i will have to look into this more before replying.

[skaff]

This is a point to be studied in depth, the Mother Theresa Lords of Britain...

It doesn't need in-depth study. It is easy to source. I stand by what i said. I am not trying to make them out to be philanthropic as you are intimating. I have said that they no doubt gain benefits elsewhere but that is not the point in question here.

This is where your tax monies goes:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom

I know, i pay them. Where are the payments to the House of Lords here then?

Where do the Lords fit in those two levels of government?

Neither! More research required my friend. I sent you links earlier but i will look around and send you some more that will hopefully explain it better for you.

[skaff]

Here are a couple of links for you that prove your point and mine! Like i said, no salary but plenty of ways to grab cash by other means!

http://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/about-lords/lords-allowances/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7193404.stm

Please note though that these rules have changed and are changing even more following the expenses scandal last year.

[cybersurf]

=skaff;1058945522]But in your last post you said she manipulates the stock market so she never loses!!! Decide what conspiracy you are going for and let me know when you do and i will debate it with you.

I didn't say she manipulates, I sad she has inside information, but lets see Her Britanick Majestie's influence on international finances: (Of course, the Rothschild's maxim remains true nevertheless, "Give me the control of money and I don't care which pupet sits at Buckingham".

Santander and the Stench of Empire

By the end of the week that began with LaRouche's warning about the impending Santander blowout, that bank's stocks had tumbled by over 10%, with similar plunges of other Spanish bank stocks, and the European and Brazilian stock markets, in general. Particularly ironic, is that the Santander collapse began the same day (Feb. 4) that the bank announced its much-ballyhooed 2009 results, with reported international profits of EU8.943 billion (about $12.43 billion), up 1% from 2008. The two main sources of its profits were Brazil (20% of the total) and the United Kingdom (16% of the total). In both cases, those profits are about as stable as quicksand—as we shall demonstrate below.

So, just what is Banco Santander? Santander's meteoric growth over recent years has made it the number one bank in the Eurozone—recently surpassing London's Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation (HSBC)—and the ninth-largest in the world, based on market capitalization. It is also the single largest banking group in Ibero-America, with some 10% of the area's total banking assets—dominating a region whose primary economic activity is drug trafficking. In 2007, Santander finally achieved a major position in the coveted Brazilian banking system as well, where it now controls about 11% of bank assets.

Santander is nominally an old-line Spanish bank, founded in 1857 by Emilio Botín López, and run today by the original Botín's great-grandson, Emilio Botín-Sanz de Sautuola y García de los Ríos—often listed as Spain's richest man. But Banco Santander today is run, top-down, by the City of London, through the British monarchy's Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) and related institutions, and by old Venetian financial interests associated with the notorious insurance firm, Assicurazioni Generali, which helped put Benito Mussolini in power in Italy. Santander, in a word, is an instrument of ancient, imperial, feudalist financial interests.

Santander has had a "strategic alliance" with the RBS since 1988, one year after Emilio Botín took control of the bank. As EIR documented, in a July 2, 2004 feature, "Empire Strikes Back: Spanish Banks Recolonize Ibero-America," excerpts of which we publish below, Botín and Santander were considered so trustworthy by the British monarchy, that, in May 2003, RBS sold all of the Ibero-American branches of its international private banking division, Coutts & Co.—the Queen's personal banker—to Santander.

Santander and RBS are both part of a broader international banking network called the Inter-Alpha group, with tentacles extending across Western and Eastern Europe, and beyond (see below).

Botín is tight with the British monarchy and related financial aristocrats, beyond the RBS axis. For example, Botín has a multi-faceted relationship—business, social, and more—with Maj. Gen. Gerald Grosvenor, the 6th Duke of Westminster, Britain's richest man by some accounts, and the United Kingdom's top owner of real estate. The duke is a cousin of Queen Elizabeth II, and "is one of Prince Charles's best friends. Grosvenor also is Prince William's godfather," according to an article published in the March 12, 2008 issue of the New York Daily News, which also reported that Grosvenor "was a customer of the same high-end prostitution service patronized by [New York] Gov. [Eliot] Spitzer ... [and] hired four hookers over a six-week stretch in late 2006."


http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/burbuja-inmobiliaria/160282-la-rouche-sobre-el-b-santander-botin-y-la-nobleza-britanica-y-el-crash-de-febrero.html

[cybersurf]

=skaff;1058945522]Every government in every country has always used addiction to generate wealth, be it drugs, alcohol, coigarettes, oil or whatever. Britain is one of those countries.

You forget to mention that the British Empire is a Reich. As such, when it engaged in drug producing to poison the world, it had coverage of all the planet.

Queen Victoria's opium crops in China distributed poison to every part of the world:

A bunch of croonies in Colombia selling opium compares not with "The Pirates of Her Britanick Mejesty" selling opium over the 7 seas.

[cybersurf]

I'll answer the rest of the post, for now let me post this important information:

Evidence Points To BP Oil Spill False Flag

http://www.infowars.net/pictures/jun2010/080610oil.jpg

- Sales of shares and stocks in days and weeks beforehand

- Halliburton link, acquisition of cleanup company days before explosion

- BP report cites undocumented tampering with well sealing equipment

- Government uses disaster to push for Carbon Tax, Nationalization talk

Steve Watson, Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prisonplanet.com
Tuesday, Jun 8th, 2010

Troubling evidence surrounding the Deepwater Horizon explosion on April 20th suggests that the incident could have been manufactured.

On April 12th, just over one week before the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, Halliburton, the world’s second largest oilfield services corporation, surprised some by acquiring Boots & Coots, a relatively small but vastly experienced oil
well control company.

The company deals with fires and blowouts on oil rigs and oil wells. It was responsible for putting out roughly one third of the more than 700 oil well fires set in Kuwait by retreating Iraqi soldiers during the Gulf War.

The deal itself is still under scrutiny with Boots and Coots facing an ongoing investigation into “possible breaches of fiduciary duty and other violations of state law”

Where this information gets really interesting is with the fact that Halliburton is named in the majority of some two dozen lawsuits filed since the explosion by Gulf Coast people and businesses who claim that the company is to blame for the disaster.

Halliburton was forced to admit in testimony at a congressional hearing last month that it carried out a cementing operation 20 hours before the Gulf of Mexico rig went up in flames. The lawsuits claim that four Halliburton workers stationed on the rig improperly capped the well.

As the New York Times noted on May 26th, “BP officials chose, partly for financial reasons, to use a type of casing for the well that the company knew was the riskier of two options,”

Workers from the rig and company officials have said that hours before the explosion, gases were leaking through the cement, which had been set in place by the oil services contractor, Halliburton. Investigators have said these leaks were the likely cause of the explosion.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/evidence-points-to-bp-oil-spill-false-flag.html

[cybersurf]

If I were a UK taxpayer, I would follow carefully this false flag that might have made me accomplice of the Crime. For using my taxpayer monies to polute the Gulf of Mexico.

[masonicboom]

I'll answer the rest of the post, for now let me post this important information:



http://www.prisonplanet.com/evidence-points-to-bp-oil-spill-false-flag.html

Thanks for that article - I hadn't read it, but it 'confirms' my dreadful suspicions.

I had heard that the spill was contained, but it seems by contained they mean that they are able to get some of the leaking oil up to an oil-liner, and by some I've heard it is a small percentage, not anywhere near even half.

[cybersurf]

Thanks for that article - I hadn't read it, but it 'confirms' my dreadful suspicions.

I had heard that the spill was contained, but it seems by contained they mean that they are able to get some of the leaking oil up to an oil-liner, and by some I've heard it is a small percentage, not anywhere near even half.

Shure, the agenda is to polute the Gulf of Mexico and as far as I understand... The oil that is extracted from an oil field has to be replaced with sea water, otherwise there would be geoligical problems.

In the case of the oilspill, the oil being poured out is not being replaced with water, and as far as I understand, geological problems will ensue. What kind of geological problems? I don't know right now, maybe somebody would enlighten us.

[cybersurf]

skaff;1058945522]Every government in every country has always used addiction to generate wealth, be it drugs, alcohol, coigarettes, oil or whatever. Britain is one of those countries.

But as I said, it ships opium and cocaine worldwide by tanker:

Lord Palmerston, the British Foreign Secretary, initiated the Opium War in order to obtain full compensation for the destroyed opium. China lost the war and was forced to open its five ports to foreign merchants and to permit a territorial concession of Hong Kong.

The war was denounced in Parliament as unjust and iniquitous by young William Ewart Gladstone, who criticized Lord Palmerston's willingness to protect an infamous contraband traffic. Outrage was expressed by the public and the press in the United States and United Kingdom as there was a perception that British interests may well have been simply supporting the drugs trade.

First Opium War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This thread indicates that British subjects objected the worldwide opium trade of Queen Victoria.


Afghanistan was indeed the biggest producers of Opium in the world until recently. How is the British Queen responsible for that??

Her Britanik Majesty is the Head of State (Though the Rothschilds control the remains of the Empire). The navy at the service of Her Majesty protect the opium crops in Afghanistan and help produce cocain aided by british tankers. This according to a British officer at the Service of Her Majesty:

Now we (Brits) are occupying the country, that has changed. According to the United Nations, 2006 was the biggest opium harvest in history, smashing the previous record by 60 per cent. This year will be even bigger.

Our economic achievement in Afghanistan goes well beyond the simple production of raw opium. In fact Afghanistan no longer exports much raw opium at all. It has succeeded in what our international aid efforts urge every developing country to do. Afghanistan has gone into manufacturing and 'value-added' operations.

It now exports not opium, but heroin. Opium is converted into heroin on an industrial scale, not in kitchens but in factories. Millions of gallons of the chemicals needed for this process are shipped into Afghanistan by tanker. The tankers and bulk opium lorries on the way to the factories share the roads, improved by American aid, with Nato troops.

...

My knowledge of all this comes from my time as British Ambassador in neighbouring Uzbekistan from 2002 until 2004. I stood at the Friendship Bridge at Termez in 2003 and watched the Jeeps with blacked-out windows bringing the heroin through from Afghanistan, en route to Europe.

I watched the tankers of chemicals roaring into Afghanistan.

Yet I could not persuade my country to do anything about it. Alexander Litvinenko ? the former agent of the KGB, now the FSB, who died in London last November after being poisoned with polonium 210 ? had suffered the same frustration over the same topic.

There are a number of theories as to why Litvinenko had to flee Russia. The most popular blames his support for the theory that FSB agents planted bombs in Russian apartment blocks to stir up anti-Chechen feeling.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html

I would say this is enough of an evidence to charge Her Britanick Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II of the House of Windsor, with charges of drug pushing... and don't forget the Lords, who earn no sallary.

Any doubt?

[cybersurf]

skaff;1058945533]That wasn't my point. One of your exports is crops and your main customer is the USA. Yet you accuse them of poisonnig your crops. That doesn't make sense.

The original point is that the Gulf is being contaminated, you diverted the point.

Am i reading this right. You are saying that the British Government holds sway over the USA by manipulating the federal reserve? Well, i admire your imagination but i think you will find that we are the pawn in America's game, not the other way round.

Remember the Rotshchild maxim, "I don't care which pupet sits at Buckingham, that who controls the money controls the empire". Or so it goes.

The British Crown, or the British monarchy is the owner of the Federal Reserve. This is their real secret. The strategy of the Federal Reserve is their other secret. Again, it is right of front of us, but no one sees the obvious. The strategy of the Federal Reserve is to accumulate all the wealth through the very slow, but effective, technique of currency debasement. The monarchs of old used to shave or clip the coins as they passed through their treasuries. Now the process is more sanitary (no more clipping and scraping all those dirty coins). John Maynard Keynes clearly stated that at there is no more effective method of destroying a society than through currency debasement.


http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1095269452.php

An interesting claim but did this person leave their name? I think it is fair to say that project camelot are not unbiased. That is not to say that it is untrue but i will have to look into this more before replying.

You're welcome to do the research.

[neville fan]

Is anybody aware that there is a man called the "company man" for BP who was on the oil rig just hours before the thing exploded and he is going to plead the fifth when he is questioned? Now why in the hell would he do that unless he has something to 'hide'? Pretty strange if you ask me.

[masonicboom]

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19730

[masonicboom]

On the Gulf Coast on Monday, one focus of Obama's remarks was the region's seafood, which faces growing doubts around the country but which Obama pronounced safe. He noted he had some for lunch — including mini crab cakes, fried shrimp and shrimp salad sandwiches — and found it "delicious."

[ladygoogoo]

Was it frozen before BP oil spill, Obama's seafood luncheon meal?
Give me a break. They probably flew it in on Airforce 2 from China.

[masonicboom]

Trust your gordons fisherman !

[energi]

Not trying to be awkward here but this is the sort of thing that frustrates me. I am open to much that points towards a global conspiracy in many areas but blindly following ideals is not healthy. What is even worse is when people fill the gaps to get it to fit a belief. The two paragraphs above are NOT the same thing so to even call it a good prediction is stretching reality a little. To call it 'dead on' is just plain silly.

I am not saying that there is no link but lets look for it rather than take a man at his word. You wouldn't believe it if the CEO of BP came forward and said that they were doing all they can to stop it unless it was backed up by overt action (and possibly not even then!) so why take DI at his word without facts also?

This is something I see in 9/11 truthers - some of the videos circulating on Youtube points to people back from the 30's to 90's of the last century, claiming that they predicted the 9/11 bombings nearly dead-on. That's just looking back at things from a new angle (post-9/11) and reading into history as you see fit, right?

[constantresearcher]

I am really starting to believe that a big part of being in this dimension is about testing out theories.

Some find connections between things that works for their developing personal truth. Doubtful that any of us would take any one person's position on anything completely including David Icke's.

But you have to start somewhere I say and I think David has done a decent job of piecing together history that has been lost on us in school...NWO history agenda vs. actual history. Even the History Channel in the US did a whole expose on Aliens and religion two weeks ago...:)

Anything is possible with some of Icke's other theories, but we may never know for certain....unless of course we can go to the Moon, or see someone personally turn into a reptile. But one thing is for certain. Given the insanity we all witnessing on this planet ANYTHING is possible.

Great post! I too believe that anything is possible. If people don't like what Icke thinks is true, they simply can say they don't believe and not take what he says so personally. I find DI to be more than interesting!